Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans?
Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of the Mets Up Podcast.
Speaker 2: Of course a series ender, so me and James can
Speaker 2: record at midnight to get you guys out in episode
Speaker 2: for the next morning. Lose a series to the Atlanta Braves,
Speaker 2: but we did win the season series. If for those
Speaker 2: of you keeping track at home, the Mets take the
Speaker 2: season series from the Braves.
Speaker 3: When was the last time the Mets took a season
Speaker 3: series from the Braves?
Speaker 1: Mark twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: It was twenty seventeen. Oh close, okay, do you want
Speaker 3: to roll through the Braves roster that season?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me take some guesses.
Speaker 3: Take some guesses. Who do you think had the most
Speaker 3: played appearance at second base for the Braves in twenty seventeen?
Speaker 2: Second base for the Braves in twenty seventeen? Yep, oh man,
Speaker 2: is that gonna be like Omar and Fonte?
Speaker 3: No? Oh well, no, no, no, way, way more shocking,
Speaker 3: way more. I wouldn't even have remembered this guy played
Speaker 3: for the Braves, Ricky Weeks. But awesome player. No, who
Speaker 3: is it? Brandon Phillips? Okay, I say the oh right
Speaker 3: right field, Nick Markaikas, left field, MATC cam Tyler Flowers
Speaker 3: a catcher, Matt Adams on that team, Chased Ourn, Anthony
Speaker 3: Record got play the appearance on that team. Are A
Speaker 3: Dickie was on that team. Ri Dicky was playing in
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. That feels insane. Yeah, the Mets have it.
Speaker 3: This is the first time the Mets of one season
Speaker 3: series against the Braves since Ronaldy Clueney Junior came up.
Speaker 1: Well, that's great.
Speaker 2: We also got the thing that we're mostly gonna talk about,
Speaker 2: which is gonna be the Francisco Lindor interview with Mike Buma.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we keep having this conversation, but
Speaker 2: we see clicks. We got to do it ourselves. So
Speaker 2: that's why you see it in the title and the
Speaker 2: thumbnail and everything. Francisco Lindor talks about future with the
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this Mets Braves series real
Speaker 2: quick before you get going into the juicy gossip. Only
Speaker 2: took one of three. Zach Thornton pitch and all mcleaym pitch.
Speaker 2: Everybody kind of did relatively what we expected. The Mets
Speaker 2: just didn't really hit enough to win the series.
Speaker 3: They hit a lot of Monday. After the game. On Monday,
Speaker 3: I was drinking a disgusting amount of kool aid for
Speaker 3: the post deadline Mets, ignoring everything in my brain and
Speaker 3: following everything in my heart, being like, maybe maybe we
Speaker 3: are just going to go on a run. I again,
Speaker 3: stupid as hell, and I see the ball the bullpender
Speaker 3: grests in a really massive way. A few games after that,
Speaker 3: but in that game, we lit up Bryce Elder thankfully.
Speaker 3: I said that that was the goal this series was
Speaker 3: lighting up Bryce Elder. Francisco Lindor got the home run,
Speaker 3: inching that ops ever closer to eight hundred. As again
Speaker 3: the puff pieces keep coming out about him. Can't wait
Speaker 3: to talk about that a little bit. Brett Baty hit
Speaker 3: the Grand Slam, like what exactly where he his first
Speaker 3: career home run in Atlanta? Is just amazing how much
Speaker 3: he how much he loves right field lan He loves
Speaker 3: right field Atlanta so much he backed up a play
Speaker 3: who with off the wall? Was it a Kunya? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Kunya hit off the wall on Wednesday and Luis Ropportunia
Speaker 3: was just kind of hanging out in center, Carson benched
Speaker 3: over into the wall and Brett Bady goes out to
Speaker 3: right field to get the ball at the second base.
Speaker 3: But just a nice game on Monday, and again there
Speaker 3: was that moment where I kind of was drinking the
Speaker 3: kool aid about this Mets team being leaving like a
Speaker 3: better than five hundred ball club with this god awful
Speaker 3: roster down the stretch.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a conversation we had on the
Speaker 2: last episode of that. There are good pieces here for
Speaker 2: a cor and we're missing a very, very big one
Speaker 2: in mon Sota right now, and they're playing better baseball
Speaker 2: than they were earlier in the season, and it's just
Speaker 2: it felt like all this stuff happened a little bit
Speaker 2: too late again threading the needle. The common theme of
Speaker 2: this season is just trying to be a little too particular,
Speaker 2: and it's probably a little bit too late now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely a little bit too late. I mean even
Speaker 3: just again, we want to spend ten to fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: in these episodes now talking about the actual series and
Speaker 3: talk about all the juicy stuff that you guys are
Speaker 3: clicking on our titles and thumbnails for. But I liked
Speaker 3: seeing Christian Scott. I mean, he definitely wasn't super efficient game.
Speaker 3: His command was way worse than it's been lately. He
Speaker 3: had to battle a little bit, and that was kind
Speaker 3: of frustrating because he got Spy the five run lead
Speaker 3: before he took them out, So I would have liked
Speaker 3: to see him hang out for five and get a victory.
Speaker 3: But he's just one of those starts where he wasn't
Speaker 3: very fine against the lefties, and it's kind of unfortunate
Speaker 3: because the Braves don't really platoon, so he had the
Speaker 3: opportunity to face more righty than usual in this game,
Speaker 3: but again just a little Waukee didn't have super great
Speaker 3: command to think of the sweeper or the cover gave
Speaker 3: up a lot of hits. It's just you know, one
Speaker 3: of those starts wasn't really perfect, but the ballpen super
Speaker 3: picked him up.
Speaker 2: This feels like the classic start of a guy coming
Speaker 2: back from a major surgery in a season where he's
Speaker 2: been pitching so incredibly well that when he isn't at
Speaker 2: that same level, you almost have to remind yourself again
Speaker 2: that this guy is coming back from a major, major injury.
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be times where he just doesn't have
Speaker 2: the stuff. The arm strength looks great, but he's still
Speaker 2: building it up. He still doesn't have that many innings
Speaker 2: in the last few years underneath his belt. So for
Speaker 2: Christian Scott to like have a human start against the Braves, yes,
Speaker 2: frustrating from the standpoint of couldn't get the win and
Speaker 2: couldn't get five. But at the same time, and I
Speaker 2: know you're not saying this, James, but couldn't be less
Speaker 2: worried about Christian Scott right now.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm not worried about any Mets pictures.
Speaker 3: I'm worried. Worry is the furthest thing from my mind.
Speaker 3: Even talking about the game on Tuesday, it was nice
Speaker 3: to get diced up by Martine Paris not even have
Speaker 3: the effect my mood one io. That was amazing, Like that.
Speaker 1: Was just nice.
Speaker 3: That was beautiful to go through and see it just again,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna run around all this stuff chaos haphazardously. It's
Speaker 3: really cool to see the growth of Nolan McLain where
Speaker 3: he can have a game like he did on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: where he's not even close to being sharp in any way,
Speaker 3: shape or form, and they still just can't even touch him.
Speaker 3: Like that's a that's an amazing thing for a picture
Speaker 3: who's still technically a rookie as he continues his pursuit
Speaker 3: towards the Rookie of the Year with nowt three point
Speaker 3: four two era just to be again not sharp. Sinker
Speaker 3: command was kind of all over the place, miss badly,
Speaker 3: with a few of them finding more reasons to lean
Speaker 3: on that high fastball, which is really cool how he's
Speaker 3: been able to locate that, but also kind of hypothesizing
Speaker 3: that maybe that's impacting his sinker command and he went
Speaker 3: to more colors than this because the curveball was really
Speaker 3: really wonky again, and just not that many sweepers. He
Speaker 3: just fully went away from sweeper. It almost like they're
Speaker 3: two sweepers in this game. I can never imagine a
Speaker 3: time he should be doing that. Besides like this where
Speaker 3: he just doesn't know where it's going.
Speaker 1: It really feels like at times in that stadium.
Speaker 2: And this is completely anecdotal that it plays like Cours
Speaker 2: for pitchers where I've never seen so many good pitchers
Speaker 2: who can spin it just completely lose it like you
Speaker 2: do in Atlanta, and not even like watching the Mets
Speaker 2: play there, watching other teams play there too, It's like,
Speaker 2: oh and Ace walks into Atlanta and he gets his
Speaker 2: tits lit? How is that even possible? It feels like
Speaker 2: it happens way more than often. Yes, the Braves have
Speaker 2: a good line up, so that's gonna play a part
Speaker 2: of it. But I know it's like sneaky. The second
Speaker 2: highest elevation I think in the league.
Speaker 3: I was about to say that it's very I mean,
Speaker 3: it's not enough elevation to impact the pitches in any
Speaker 3: way or shape or form close to what Corus Field does.
Speaker 3: But this is the second highest elevation all baseball, which
Speaker 3: is a very, very use at the bars this weekend.
Speaker 3: Guy's a trivia question with your homies, which statey of
Speaker 3: Major Leaue baseball is the second highest elevation because there's Atlanta.
Speaker 3: But again, when McClain does and have it, he's still
Speaker 3: so good. That is the mark of someone who can
Speaker 3: grow in to being an ace. Also like how the
Speaker 3: day after it starts he's out there taking ground balls
Speaker 3: and Francisco Lindoor asking for footwork points is a short stop,
Speaker 3: like who does shit like that?
Speaker 2: No, the Mets are definitely like loose and I think
Speaker 2: and again we'll talk more about Lindor here in a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes. But like the fact that we're seeing
Speaker 2: more of these things I think happening as the season's
Speaker 2: gone on. Where it felt like at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the year we couldn't get a morsel of anything about
Speaker 2: anything going on with this team whatsoever. Now we're seeing
Speaker 2: guys seem to be hanging out a little bit more,
Speaker 2: having a little bit more fun. I wish that the
Speaker 2: fun coincided with winning and chasing a playoff spot, which
Speaker 2: it does not, so does make the pressure.
Speaker 1: Feel a little bit less for these guys.
Speaker 2: But maybe that's just something where they can use that
Speaker 2: as a positive to grow for next season because we
Speaker 2: can't keep doing this year after year now, Like the
Speaker 2: Mets do need to take this pressure and handle it. Well,
Speaker 2: this is a good way to learn it.
Speaker 3: It's almost like there was a target on their back
Speaker 3: coming into the season. They don't really know how to
Speaker 3: handle that pressure.
Speaker 1: Get no targeting. You can't put a target on the
Speaker 1: back for a team that sucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well again it because they suck now, but the
Speaker 3: target was on their back. Also, we saw Gabriel Aarius's
Speaker 3: Met's deput He's gotta have the worst hair in Major
Speaker 3: League Baseball. I don't know what's going on there with
Speaker 3: that thing.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a look that I don't think Shiny
Speaker 1: you got great hair, James. I don't think you could
Speaker 1: even pull that hair off. It is truly one of
Speaker 1: a kind, and I don't I don't know how one
Speaker 1: gets a hair to look like that.
Speaker 3: No, I don't neither, But get a shout out him
Speaker 3: for getting it to look like that. Also, I want
Speaker 3: to know what.
Speaker 1: Looked back at that trade.
Speaker 2: By the way, how did the how did the Cleveland
Speaker 2: Guardians get seven prospects for Mike Clevenger.
Speaker 3: At the time, Clevenger was nasty. Like I it was,
Speaker 3: ahm in time, we didn't know how much of a
Speaker 3: shithead he was. Yet he's like absolute piece of dirt.
Speaker 2: He just got so many guys, like they got Nailer,
Speaker 2: they got Hedges, they got Gabriel Arias. None of them
Speaker 2: have really panned out to be like he's super superstars,
Speaker 2: but like it was a crazy trade.
Speaker 1: Looking back at.
Speaker 3: It, I mean, Prebler's just he's aj Preller and we're
Speaker 3: seeing the Padres next week's we'll talk about him then. Also,
Speaker 3: I don't know why Jay Planco maybe stopped taking three
Speaker 3: hundred swings before games, because seems like that's the only
Speaker 3: time this whole year the swing was right, and swing's
Speaker 3: not looked anywhere close to right since then. Whatsoever?
Speaker 1: So bad?
Speaker 3: This is also I feel like this happened to the
Speaker 3: Mets more times I can ever remember this year. But
Speaker 3: they even have an extra base hit in this game.
Speaker 2: Well that's what happens. And we kind of joked about
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year. It's like for everybody,
Speaker 2: who will you know, the Mets a swinger for the
Speaker 2: fence is too much. Okay, congrats. Now you can watch Boba,
Speaker 2: Schett and Marcus me and get six hundred plate appearances
Speaker 2: this year. Instead of guys with home runs enjoy singles.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have a hard time scoring runs in a
Speaker 2: lot of games.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Simmy, it is such a sad that
Speaker 3: bad to watch. Also, we saw Jeffreyon not there strikes
Speaker 3: this game, so that was just a good time. We
Speaker 3: did that good. He checked look good again on Wednesday,
Speaker 3: But could he check on Jeffreyon and Chase McDermand who
Speaker 3: still flashes nice stuff but got roped in the was
Speaker 3: at the eighth inning against the Braves. That was that
Speaker 3: was rough one, but this was it was nice on
Speaker 3: Tuesday and Wednesday. These games are over fast speak quick,
Speaker 3: easy losses. And then just watching Zach Thorton on Wednesday
Speaker 3: worthwhile fun pitcher. We tell him the next Johnnice. I'd
Speaker 3: like that he's widened the repertoire out more. I like
Speaker 3: that we had more opportunities to see him against the
Speaker 3: left handed bathers in this game, because again, the Braves
Speaker 3: don't platoon as much as many other teams in the league.
Speaker 3: It's just I like, I like Zach Thorton. We're gonna
Speaker 3: keep saying in every single podcast that he's he's a
Speaker 3: fun young pitcher. Please don't put sky high expectations on
Speaker 3: him because he had a really good five start run
Speaker 3: to start his career.
Speaker 1: I don't know, James.
Speaker 2: The comments section says that we pick on Zach Thornton,
Speaker 2: that we are.
Speaker 3: So I think we're doing to protect him.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I couldn't disagree more. I think
Speaker 2: we're actually being one realist is not being hard on
Speaker 2: someone that is that there needs more realism in this world.
Speaker 1: A lot of people live in fantasy land.
Speaker 2: Zach Thornton himself knows that he is not an an
Speaker 2: ace pitcher in the Mets rotation. But I want the
Speaker 2: mentality for him to be that he goes out there
Speaker 2: every single time and I am better than you, which
Speaker 2: I do get that sense with him, which a lot
Speaker 2: of times from a lot of left handed pitchers in
Speaker 2: this organization over the last decade talk about the mental
Speaker 2: side of things. They had zero mentals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want you to just pull all these
Speaker 3: He's in the same bucket that's that's you're being a
Speaker 3: little bit of.
Speaker 1: Doing this right. I'm doing it. I'm doing that. They
Speaker 1: have to be put in the same bucket.
Speaker 3: Marks A leftis you heard it here first. But I
Speaker 3: also like if you if you saw on Instagram. You
Speaker 3: don't know if you follow Zach, but he did the
Speaker 3: post the other day and he's an Oliver Tree songs.
Speaker 3: That's a ball nower right there. And I did like
Speaker 3: in this Star specifically that he was just in trouble.
Speaker 3: It felt like like from the first five pitches of
Speaker 3: every single inning game. Yeah, and he's just he's really
Speaker 3: he has this innate ability and some people could say
Speaker 3: this is bullshit, this is you know, this is not
Speaker 3: there's nothing in the spreadsheet, guys. But he just grits
Speaker 3: his teeth and he finds ways through. He got that
Speaker 3: nice double play off of Olsen when it was first
Speaker 3: and third, nobody out. I think that was the third inning,
Speaker 3: and then he got well Roble Queen Junior just ran
Speaker 3: into an out in the fifth inning, just out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: And then Zach Thorton was able to leave the start
Speaker 3: on a high note. I thought they were gonna try
Speaker 3: and push him for seven, but they had to get
Speaker 3: Dadanielle in there to really try and secure the loss.
Speaker 3: Because remember people hearing us about being upset, this team
Speaker 3: wasn't tanking. Were this team's gonna tank by accident? Guys,
Speaker 3: The deadline was was the Tanka bullpen is a baseball
Speaker 3: bad for as excited as he's been about for the
Speaker 3: last week. But again, you take Thorin out after a
Speaker 3: nice one two, three innings, six innings, quality start, eighty pitches.
Speaker 3: He can leave this game with his head health high,
Speaker 3: rather than trying to push him an additional ending and
Speaker 3: risk leaving a start with a bit of a sour
Speaker 3: taste in your mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got the loss in this one, but he
Speaker 2: is by no means the reason the Mets lost this game.
Speaker 2: He made a great start, Like you said, it wasn't
Speaker 2: a dominant start to win where the lack of Mets
Speaker 2: offense could have overcame what happened.
Speaker 1: But I like Zach Thornton.
Speaker 2: I think he's really good, and I do think that
Speaker 2: the common section is misconstruing a lot of what we're
Speaker 2: saying about him.
Speaker 1: We're just trying to protect our boy because we don't want.
Speaker 2: The nonsense that happens every single time a rookie gets
Speaker 2: called up and has, like you said, a good little
Speaker 2: five start stretch.
Speaker 3: Or like the first half from David Peterson twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: where you're like, Yep, this is it. He's nice. It's not.
Speaker 3: Just wait a second, did you see a nice Tyler
Speaker 3: Moley looked in this game?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The Braves they fucking did it again.
Speaker 3: I mean he just the way he was commanding that
Speaker 3: fastball and splither like it was. It was perfect. He'd
Speaker 3: lived on that out of the edge with those two pitches,
Speaker 3: and if you looked at his pitch start from this game,
Speaker 3: they were just lined up on the outer edge against
Speaker 3: the Rities. The fastballs were about a little leather high,
Speaker 3: but still like right on the black and the spit
Speaker 3: is just falling down, straight down off it was. It
Speaker 3: was beautiful. And we also keep having the Francisco Alvarez
Speaker 3: conversations because when he's ninth in the oither fucking rakes
Speaker 3: one of the best lighters in the game the Gary
Speaker 3: and I think Ron dropped it on Monday that of
Speaker 3: all hitters who've hit the ninth spot in the oarder
Speaker 3: this year, Alvarez has the highest hope ps by far
Speaker 3: when hitting in the ninth spot, like something in the
Speaker 3: nine hundreds. But every time he goes to a different spot,
Speaker 3: he has no approach, he has no semblance of the
Speaker 3: play at the play whatsoever. I really don't know what
Speaker 3: it is. It's like an insane hintrance in his development
Speaker 3: that he has to hit ninth to hit effectively.
Speaker 1: It feels like there is a definite focus issue with
Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez, and something about hitting ninth, at least from
Speaker 1: an offensive side, gets him to focus a little bit
Speaker 1: more because also to.
Speaker 3: The opposite you think he gets a relax I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, man, because at the I think the the
Speaker 2: reason I said the focus problem is because he has
Speaker 2: regressed so insanely.
Speaker 1: Are defensively is he can't catch. He can't catch the baseball.
Speaker 1: It is a difficult thing for him to do. Right now.
Speaker 1: That's all focused, that's all. That's all that is.
Speaker 3: He's up to an eleven hundred ops and one hundred
Speaker 3: and ten play the appearances from the ninth spot in
Speaker 3: the order. But I'm saying I think he's a little
Speaker 3: bit too in. I mean, this is again not defensively.
Speaker 3: I'm talking offensively at the plate, like in that ninth
Speaker 3: inning when the Met's kind of had the Lacy's on
Speaker 3: the ropes after the Boat sold a home run and
Speaker 3: he's up there is to go ahead run. He's very
Speaker 3: clearly trying to hit through an home run and be
Speaker 3: the hero win the game. Oh wait, he hits a
Speaker 3: pop out and outside fastball or color to first base
Speaker 3: and he like it looked like he kind of had
Speaker 3: a freak out ime. They quickly s Andy caught the
Speaker 3: pan of Ossie Albi's and mettals a kind of looking
Speaker 3: back at him, like he is he really like pissed
Speaker 3: off right now, Like they were like kind of shocked
Speaker 3: about his reaction to a PopOut for a team twenty
Speaker 3: game fifteen games under in the middle of August, Like
Speaker 3: it just seems like when he's in the ninth spot
Speaker 3: he can take that deep breath and just kind of
Speaker 3: follow his plan, relax, be a part of the game.
Speaker 3: But I don't know what else happens to him where
Speaker 3: he's just overly intense too often.
Speaker 2: Sometimes We talked about this earlier in the year, and
Speaker 2: it's just it gets more and more true every single game.
Speaker 3: And a nice bounce back performance by Yon he got
Speaker 3: in and out of dead nails jam with just seven pitches,
Speaker 3: throwing strikes, struck out, made alson a subdued celebration. Yeah,
Speaker 3: chilled out a little bit since that first outing. I
Speaker 3: think he was just jacked up in that first outing because.
Speaker 1: He should be.
Speaker 2: He was he was selling refrigerators and doing roofing in Arizona.
Speaker 2: He should be able to do whatever he wants. And
Speaker 2: also I think good good for the mental side of thing,
Speaker 2: the wherewithal to understand that the Mets are losing.
Speaker 1: It's not about him right now. It's not about get
Speaker 1: the job done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, getting a hold, cleaning out anything like that. Yet
Speaker 3: be more amped up. But we just haven't seen one
Speaker 3: on ones. We've been seeing ninety sevens ninety eight. So
Speaker 3: I do think the adrenaline was and again rightfully so
Speaker 3: just pomping in that first start.
Speaker 1: Gun in Cleveland maybe who knows.
Speaker 3: Who knows how gun in Cleveland, But I do think
Speaker 3: that's Oh and the last thing funny that happens week
Speaker 3: coda is the closer. Now Devin Williams on the injured list,
Speaker 3: and he looks really good, look nasty. This is very
Speaker 3: funny that this happening, and this actually might work like
Speaker 3: he especially seeing it in this series, like watching Dylan
Speaker 3: Dodd roll out there for the Braves and be a
Speaker 3: lockdown reliever liked Didyer. Fuentes is also one of the
Speaker 3: best relievers in baseball. Like it's okay sometimes to make
Speaker 3: take a failed starter and put them in the bullpen.
Speaker 3: I feel like the mess ye, I mean, that's crazy
Speaker 3: poll right now, wayde Davis. Maybe because as a good
Speaker 3: recent one, but like that's not recently anymore.
Speaker 1: Jesus, I'm un but it's a decade.
Speaker 3: It's a long time ago. Jesus Christ. You're allowed to
Speaker 3: do that. I feel like the mess. Just don't bite
Speaker 3: the ball to do that very often where you can
Speaker 3: take the starters and you can move back to the
Speaker 3: rotation at some point if they get it back together.
Speaker 3: But like right now, like I saying, gould be next
Speaker 3: year's Luke Weaver.
Speaker 2: I mean the day, the day that that happens to
Speaker 2: Silo or McGill, I think we're gonna we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to go out and have a drink and celebrate.
Speaker 1: We've been We've been calling for that since the inception
Speaker 1: of this podcast.
Speaker 3: I mean, watching his brother, it's crazy, it's taken us long.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's still might be a good no starter,
Speaker 3: but we'll see. But it was also funny that Bench
Speaker 3: just uck that ball into the crowd right after. So funny,
Speaker 3: And it was funny seeing them interact, Like it's fun
Speaker 3: that those two guys seem like to have a great relationship.
Speaker 3: It was nice to see Code that's just like happy.
Speaker 1: It's rare.
Speaker 3: He hasn't smiled in years.
Speaker 1: Probably since we last interviewed him.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe the way he pitched through the final few
Speaker 3: winnings of that start against the Phillies game one of
Speaker 3: the DS. Yeah, that was probably the last good moment
Speaker 3: he had in this team. But it's just it was
Speaker 3: nice to see him be happy, see that, like Spark
Speaker 3: back with him, and again he looked gross just going
Speaker 3: before seemers high and goes forks low like that. He
Speaker 3: can be a really really effective leiver, I have no
Speaker 3: doubt about that. So happy and also happy he actually
Speaker 3: did get.
Speaker 2: The ball back they reported, Oh did really nice. Yeah
Speaker 2: good Code put that. Put that one up in your
Speaker 2: trophy case. But I think that's pretty much it about
Speaker 2: this series.
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's the whole serious feels
Speaker 3: like we got everything. Jared Young still just plays good ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good ballplayer.
Speaker 3: We know that, Lolouise. Robert Junior played a real lazy
Speaker 3: center field on Wednesday, and then he smashed the home run.
Speaker 2: A j Ewing did make that great diving catch, and
Speaker 2: Psychopathic did some was Gary did Gary go on a
Speaker 2: little bit of a tangent about like he needs to
Speaker 2: be playing center field every day of Louis from the
Speaker 2: Bear playing center. Unless I missed that one read that.
Speaker 3: On Twitter, you might have. I was. I was muted
Speaker 3: for a lot of the Tuesday game. I was doing
Speaker 3: some work in the background. But I think I think
Speaker 3: that's true. I don't know why we're keeping Robert Junior
Speaker 3: in centerfield. They're like, oh, you know, he's he's never
Speaker 3: played the corner raffield. You know, now it's a good
Speaker 3: time to try.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, if the if one sol is
Speaker 2: gonna be a dch next year, we need a corner
Speaker 2: rail fielder.
Speaker 3: There you go, Robert. There's also still a nice centerfielder,
Speaker 3: like he made a few ors really good catches this series. Also,
Speaker 3: Baty had another decent game at second. He just can't
Speaker 3: hit a lick though, so.
Speaker 1: We're just except for the Grand Slam, except.
Speaker 3: For the Grand Slam, but he still at least plays hard.
Speaker 3: That's the difference between him and some of these other guys.
Speaker 3: We're going to be non tender can and it's like
Speaker 3: him hoofing it out to right field again to get
Speaker 3: that ball off the wall, and Robert Jr. Was staring
Speaker 3: at Lightning Bucks like that's that's the difference right there
Speaker 3: with Brett Baty. While why he'll be on the roster
Speaker 3: next year.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's talk about the elephant in the room,
Speaker 1: right Yeah, Lindor Time, Lindor Time. So Mike Puma got
Speaker 1: an exclusive what do we call this interview, Calling with
Speaker 1: You with Francisco Lindor. Here's the headline.
Speaker 2: Francisco Lindor tells the Post why he wants to remain
Speaker 2: a met and why his confidence in Brass hasn't shaken.
Speaker 2: Shout out to me and James forgetting the free trial
Speaker 2: and canceling it instantly so you guys don't have to
Speaker 2: That's right. We got the free trial of the Post
Speaker 2: Sports Plus, and I gotta say wasn't worth it because
Speaker 2: we really did get too much more than we already
Speaker 2: saw on the internet.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I do love.
Speaker 2: A lot of what Francisco Lindor is saying. I really
Speaker 2: only had like one issue or exception with anything that
Speaker 2: he said. Otherwise, I thought everything was perfect. Stuff that
Speaker 2: I love to hear.
Speaker 3: I do too, stuff I love to hear. I love
Speaker 3: to hear his confidence in the team, in the brass,
Speaker 3: specifically in the process. There were a lot of process
Speaker 3: lad In comments he made, and again we're going to
Speaker 3: read all them for you. Guys. You don't have to
Speaker 3: get a New York Post Plus. That's our gift to
Speaker 3: you in this episode. Podcast pays for itself.
Speaker 2: Fast or try to squeeze out a couple dollars for
Speaker 2: the big New York Post. That the difference between Sports
Speaker 2: Plus subscription reading this article and not was like literally
Speaker 2: two paragraphs at the end where Lindor's talking about Wandy Austin.
Speaker 3: Yet yeah, right in the fact that you even mentioned
Speaker 3: him and also one fourteen max eggs and velocity for
Speaker 3: Wandy Austian. If a sixteen year old did that in America,
Speaker 3: there'd be op eds written about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've made an alteration to my I almost hit altercation.
Speaker 2: That would have been the classic me wrong word alteration
Speaker 2: to my top prospect list for mess.
Speaker 1: He is now number two.
Speaker 2: You hit it one fourteen at sixteen, you're like a
Speaker 2: top one hundred prospect in baseball.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I kind of agree with that too. And again, guys,
Speaker 3: we made our top one hundred, top ten, not one hundred,
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, our top ten Mets prospect list. We played
Speaker 3: that last Saturday, so in case you missed that in
Speaker 3: the shuffle of just a weekend and then a series
Speaker 3: happening really quickly, no off day.
Speaker 2: That is kind of funny though, to think about ranking
Speaker 2: the top one hundred Mets prospects, that's just ranking every
Speaker 2: met minor league.
Speaker 3: Maybe we should do that. I also want to find
Speaker 3: the perfect time where we're going to do a Monster episode.
Speaker 3: I don't know if August at the right time. This
Speaker 3: might have to be something that waits until November December,
Speaker 3: where we go ahead and grate every single move in
Speaker 3: David Stern's era, like we go calm and crow for
Speaker 3: Adrian Houser and Tyrone Taylor all the way through to
Speaker 3: the trade deadline of the year, just straight through we
Speaker 3: do Houser. That's what I'm saying. Like it's gonna be
Speaker 3: like a ninety minute video. We're gonna go every single transaction.
Speaker 3: But back to this article right here, I do think
Speaker 3: that in some worthing of this two points, I do
Speaker 3: really think the door still opened. The door at this door,
Speaker 3: I think he kept it cracked open in case a
Speaker 3: trade work to come up, in case something crazy where
Speaker 3: to happen. The plan is for me to be here
Speaker 3: for my contract. When I signed up here, it was
Speaker 3: to be in the good times the bad times, and
Speaker 3: to win. He has no trade claws, so it ultimately
Speaker 3: is up to him. But specifically the quote that went
Speaker 3: around a little bit on social media that when you
Speaker 3: are in a big market, there's not such thing as
Speaker 3: a rebuild. There is a little bit of a transition.
Speaker 3: That's it. You can't afford to rebuild a big market.
Speaker 3: So I think we're working towards the right place. We
Speaker 3: have not taken a step backwards. I think that's him
Speaker 3: leaving the door slightly nudged.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think tiny bit that in case this offseason again
Speaker 3: doesn't look like it's going to yield a winning ball club,
Speaker 3: and there's a reason for him. I don't think this
Speaker 3: will happen. I think there's a less than five percent chance,
Speaker 3: but just in case he can do it and it
Speaker 3: won't really look like as bad as a guy.
Speaker 2: See, I disagree because I think like the problem that
Speaker 2: I had in this article was was this comment right
Speaker 2: here of that we have not taken a step backwards.
Speaker 2: Definitely have. I think that's that's a little that's little.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys were in the NLCS and you
Speaker 2: haven't even come close in the last two years, So
Speaker 2: definitely a step back along with bringing one of the
Speaker 2: best players in baseball and mon Soto to a team
Speaker 2: that was in the NLCS the prior year haven't made
Speaker 2: the playoffs since. But at the same time, I think
Speaker 2: a lot of these quotes the reason he went It
Speaker 2: seems like.
Speaker 1: He went to Booma to tell him this. That's the
Speaker 1: other confusing side is how did the Posts get these
Speaker 1: quotes from Francisco indoor and not like a good publication.
Speaker 3: Well that's the part too, that somehow, some way.
Speaker 1: We keep doing these interviews with the Post.
Speaker 3: Maybe this was just in Lindora's mind to acquiesce the
Speaker 3: people who are fanning the flame. The I did like
Speaker 3: the fact that as they were promoting the post game
Speaker 3: show today Gary keith Ron and it was about Francisco
Speaker 3: Lindora Tellal with the new York Post. He was like,
Speaker 3: all right, he finally told off, can we stopped talking
Speaker 3: about this now because it's not an issue. I like
Speaker 3: that Gary said that because again, it does feel like
Speaker 3: every single time there's any public comments about this, it's like, no,
Speaker 3: we're not consider they're trading him. But yeah, at the
Speaker 3: same time, there's been probably too smoke, to the fact
Speaker 3: that too much smoke, to the fact that it's never
Speaker 3: come up inside that room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I could buy that that at least
Speaker 2: the thought of what I can see David Stearns in
Speaker 2: the front office having a conversation of what would it
Speaker 2: take for us to trade Francisco Lindor, What is the
Speaker 2: package that we would want back in order to move
Speaker 2: a guy like Lindor. I think that is a conversation
Speaker 2: that has probably been had, So you're right there. But
Speaker 2: also at the same time, I feel like all the
Speaker 2: smoke does not ever come from anybody inside the Mets.
Speaker 2: It's the classic rival execs feel that Francisco Lindor will
Speaker 2: be traded this offseason. It's like everybody else, for some reason,
Speaker 2: can just stir the fucking pot out the New York
Speaker 2: Mets and then for some reason the mutants in the
Speaker 2: Mets world that run with this shit, or then even
Speaker 2: just the rest of the media is.
Speaker 1: Like, for instanceco Lindor will be traded this offseason.
Speaker 3: And again like the Post continuing to get this access,
Speaker 3: especially to Lindoor. He's going to Mike Puma and he's
Speaker 3: sharing these very in depth quotes. We have some more
Speaker 3: that thought were very interesting from those, but like, why again,
Speaker 3: why does this keep happening? Why are they getting these scoops?
Speaker 3: Why is this not Will Salmon or even Anthony Dicomo
Speaker 3: at this point, Like why or even.
Speaker 2: If past and who's got a fucking podcast right now?
Speaker 2: Who's getting everybody on to say things.
Speaker 3: Like are like, as a New York Post like threatening
Speaker 3: the Mets with these crazy scoops that are going to
Speaker 3: come out if you don't give like these very tell
Speaker 3: all interviews I could do.
Speaker 1: I mean, how could Mike Puma ever be threatening?
Speaker 3: I mean also, that's just like Puma, I guess to
Speaker 3: a degree, Like Puma is old school. Puma has been
Speaker 3: around this team forever. Like the people in the Mets
Speaker 3: brass are like, yeah, poom, Like that's Puma, Like he's
Speaker 3: always around. You gotta you give Puma, somebody to give
Speaker 3: the Post something round. It is one of the biggest,
Speaker 3: if not the biggest paper in New York at this point.
Speaker 3: Probably I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, as someone who barely reads and definitely doesn't
Speaker 2: read the newspaper, I have no clue.
Speaker 3: Not newspaper guys. But again, it's odd that this continues
Speaker 3: to come up all the time. It has not stopped.
Speaker 3: But just to give these quotes now from Lindor, we
Speaker 3: have the right guys. Stearns is the right guy. That
Speaker 3: is number one. We have one of the best owners
Speaker 3: in sports history because Cohen is going to always have
Speaker 3: the energy that needs to be put in this team.
Speaker 3: And then goes on some more interesting stuff later on. Yes,
Speaker 3: we have the players you want to build around. You
Speaker 3: have the young pitching staff along with a couple of
Speaker 3: pitchers that are a little bit older. If you've got
Speaker 3: Marcus Imu still got a couple of years. You have
Speaker 3: bo it's gonna be up to him if he stays.
Speaker 3: You have the young players, talk about Benjiouing, and then
Speaker 3: you look at the minor league system. You feel we
Speaker 3: got better at the trade deadline. So believe we are
Speaker 3: working that we are working forward every season. Every season
Speaker 3: that you lose a lot of the games, it might
Speaker 3: look like you're taking a step back or not, because
Speaker 3: there's other things happening around it that they're propelling us forward.
Speaker 2: I also think it's crazy too that in the article
Speaker 2: it talks about how Lindor mentioned a bunch of the
Speaker 2: guys that they just recently acquired at the deadline. That
Speaker 2: he mentioned Jefferson row hospot name, which makes sense it's
Speaker 2: top one hundred prospects, mentioned Billy Hammick behind him, which
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Is kind of you be like me.
Speaker 2: It's a little SaaS meme of like getting drafted thefl
Speaker 2: Like you're talking about me? Why why am I being
Speaker 2: mentioned in this article, also mentioning Ellie and Pani and
Speaker 2: Jandi Asinan.
Speaker 1: The thing that makes me think that.
Speaker 2: Lindor, I mean, there's a lot of things that made
Speaker 2: me think Lindor has no interest.
Speaker 1: In leaving the Mets.
Speaker 2: No the tons of money, the lifestyle that he has,
Speaker 2: the fact that it seems like his family is really
Speaker 2: really happy being in New York.
Speaker 1: It seems like he's really happy being in New York. Again.
Speaker 2: All of the noise that ever comes out about Francisco
Speaker 2: Lindor never comes from him himself, never comes from anybody
Speaker 2: in the Mets front office, never comes from any people
Speaker 2: that actually matter.
Speaker 1: It is always it's noise.
Speaker 2: That's what it is, which is why we try to
Speaker 2: tell you that all the time on this podcast of
Speaker 2: listen to the people who are speaking and or who
Speaker 2: are saying it.
Speaker 1: There's always an agenda. It seems like to.
Speaker 2: Me, I just it seems like Lindor is really bought into,
Speaker 2: not only again being a New York Met, but the process,
Speaker 2: like you mentioned earlier, him singling out David Stearns, I
Speaker 2: think is one gotta be kind of a nice feeling
Speaker 2: for David Stearns, who is not a favorite by any
Speaker 2: means of probably even some players in this locker room
Speaker 2: right now, and also at the same time is clearly
Speaker 2: hated by the fan base or most of the fan
Speaker 2: base because of the moves that have been made. But
Speaker 2: he's not second guessing what David Stearns has done, even
Speaker 2: in a year again where the Mets have vastly underperformed.
Speaker 3: And at the time when if there was anybody in
Speaker 3: this locker room I think would have the most negative
Speaker 3: things to say, specifically about David Stearns of what he's
Speaker 3: done over the last year, it would be Lindor. Lindor
Speaker 3: has been here for five years now, pie Alonzo, brand
Speaker 3: Nemo and Francisco Lindor were a unit. Those guys were
Speaker 3: a core. Despite all of the absolute bullshit that people
Speaker 3: spew about the politics that's broken this locker room part,
Speaker 3: none of it's true. I really think if anybody was
Speaker 3: the most upset about the way this offseas turned out,
Speaker 3: it was very likely Francisco Lindor and I think that's
Speaker 3: him Pelonzo were like best friends who loved each other.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: That and along with the fact of like, let's just
Speaker 2: talk about like the Soto drama nonsense that we've been
Speaker 2: hearing about for like the last two years.
Speaker 1: We even mentioned that this was like a sneaky thing
Speaker 1: to keep an eye out for.
Speaker 2: Was Lindor went from being the big man on campus
Speaker 2: of the Mets, of the highest paid player, the superstar
Speaker 2: everybody loved him, to now moan Soto's coming and said,
Speaker 2: I make.
Speaker 1: Two times as much money as you.
Speaker 2: I am now the favorite player of a fan base
Speaker 2: despite playing for rivals and the team across town. Congratulations
Speaker 2: you're number two now, and even still with all that,
Speaker 2: for Francisco Lindor to not make a peep publicly about
Speaker 2: any of this, I feel like it's just is it
Speaker 2: too obvious? Is that the problem with it that it's
Speaker 2: so obvious that people have to make up these fake things.
Speaker 3: And while also not making it peep publicly. Like we've
Speaker 3: said a few times, I'm sure that there's been moments
Speaker 3: in the last two years where Francisco Lindor wasn't exactly
Speaker 3: additive inside the clubhouse. Yes, it does seem like if
Speaker 3: he was, we wouldn't have had some of the issues
Speaker 3: and some of the things that have trickled out from
Speaker 3: relatively trusted sources over the last year. That's all in
Speaker 3: their fine. But I also like how he went on
Speaker 3: in this piece to again continue to talk about process
Speaker 3: stuff the Mets are doing and stuff that I don't
Speaker 3: even think that it's super great process the way he's
Speaker 3: describing it, but just the fact how much confidence seems
Speaker 3: like he has in the organization I'm talking about again.
Speaker 3: You mentioned the fact that he talked about Ellie and Panie,
Speaker 3: Wanda Astiny and lower in the system. Booma said that
Speaker 3: they are not imminent, but Wan Sola wasn't in the
Speaker 3: picture with the Nationals. He was in High A. Then
Speaker 3: he's in the big league. Same thing with Jose Rimers,
Speaker 3: he was in hig A, then he finished the year
Speaker 3: in the big leagues. J Ewing last year was supposed
Speaker 3: to be in the big leagues this year, so he
Speaker 3: was early. You never know. They're going to develop in
Speaker 3: different ways. We have guys like that, We have other
Speaker 3: pictures the minor league system that might not seem like
Speaker 3: big time prospects, but they're going to help us. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean like he's locked in.
Speaker 2: He's locked in, He's not just locked into what's going
Speaker 2: on at the major league level. It also seems like
Speaker 2: he's very, very focused on who's going to be playing
Speaker 2: alongside him while he is still here as the New
Speaker 2: York And it's even funny because Puma, I guess, mentioned
Speaker 2: him about have you considered that by the end of
Speaker 2: the month that you'll be at the halfway point through
Speaker 2: your contract with the Mets? Lindor Electric quote, No, because
Speaker 2: I live in the moment, and I know I'm getting
Speaker 2: older when it comes to baseball age, but I am
Speaker 2: not old at the end of the day. I still
Speaker 2: see it as I have got many years left. But
Speaker 2: with that being said, we've got to win. We've got
Speaker 2: to win, right, I want to help this team win.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how why, what would ever lead
Speaker 2: a Mets fan to not love how he ended that
Speaker 2: we have got to win.
Speaker 1: We have to win. I want to help this team win.
Speaker 1: That's all you could ever ask for out of your
Speaker 1: superstar player, along with the fact that he's still playing
Speaker 1: really good baseball. The ops is all the way back
Speaker 1: up to seven to sixty. By the end of August,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be in the eight hundreds or at
Speaker 1: least really really close to it.
Speaker 2: And what do you know, Francisco Lindor is gonna be
Speaker 2: one of the best shortstops in baseball again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's kind of the crux of this whole thing,
Speaker 3: that Francisco Lindor is the type of superstar caliber future
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer that other players that'd be a little
Speaker 3: bit more concerned about how quickly they could fall off
Speaker 3: into their early thirties. But he has enough strong underlying
Speaker 3: metrics right now, enough underlying improvements this year compared to last,
Speaker 3: and enough of a base of production where I still
Speaker 3: think we're going to get a Franciscal Indoors a really
Speaker 3: good hit there for the next few years. And again,
Speaker 3: I think the biggest concern is defensively. And I do
Speaker 3: wonder if the thing that can actually fractures relationship in
Speaker 3: the offseason is if the Mets brass comes to the
Speaker 3: door and says, hey, see this kid, Mitch Voyd, and
Speaker 3: he's gonna be ready next June. If if this happens
Speaker 3: like a would you be willing to not be the
Speaker 3: shortstop sooner than we first thought when you signed this contract.
Speaker 3: And I do wonder how that kind of conversation will
Speaker 3: go or if there's some things, have some crazy ship
Speaker 3: to leave this offseason I think is much less likely
Speaker 3: to short steps don't get traded. Besides, Franciscal Indoors is
Speaker 3: a miracle we've ever got him in the first literals.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do he's going to be It seems
Speaker 3: like part of this and whatever you guys think in
Speaker 3: your mind for better or worse, but I think this
Speaker 3: is definitely better. And even since he came off the Angeles,
Speaker 3: he's been great for the whole month.
Speaker 2: So a baseball player, we have so much data to
Speaker 2: tell us that Francisco Lindor is an elite baseball player,
Speaker 2: and people saw a sample size that was a month
Speaker 2: of COVID baseball and was like, I'm done trade them.
Speaker 1: This guy sucks for no reason.
Speaker 2: And again, nobody connected to the Mets has ever had
Speaker 2: any inclination that Francisco Indoor wants to, should be or
Speaker 2: isn't welcome in this team.
Speaker 3: And even if someone did have the inclination, he's doing
Speaker 3: a shit ton of money and has a full note
Speaker 3: trade clause.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he doesn't.
Speaker 2: He should be like, I love it here. I don't
Speaker 2: want to fucking go. He doesn't have to do the
Speaker 2: Brandon Nemo.
Speaker 3: It's just basically, no matter what, no matter how much
Speaker 3: some people are gonna kick and scream, it's most likely
Speaker 3: just not going to happen.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it doesn't. I hope it never does.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. I wanted to retire to the metal. I want
Speaker 3: to go into the Hall of Fame with a Mets
Speaker 3: cap on.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: What I was saying is I hope we don't talk
Speaker 3: about this anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love I would actually seriously love Francisco Indoor.
Speaker 2: If there's ever a world where you're listening to forty
Speaker 2: minutes into the Mets Stuff podcast on August thirteenth, when
Speaker 2: it comes out, Please stop talking to the reporters about anything.
Speaker 2: Everyone understands you want to be here. We don't need
Speaker 2: to have this conversation anymore. Please stop feeding into the idiots.
Speaker 3: And we want you here, but we want you here. Yes,
Speaker 3: a few other things to close this out. Just one
Speaker 3: more about Gary Keith and Ronnigay. I liked that they
Speaker 3: made the mention about Lindor, like this conversation you get
Speaker 3: to stop. I also love that this year, as they
Speaker 3: were just saying fucking in the booth, three of them
Speaker 3: together down Atlanta the end of this game where it
Speaker 3: was not very good baseball being played there, yap. And
Speaker 3: about travel schedules, Keith is like, I can't take the
Speaker 3: late flight. I'm going seven thirty in the morning. Funny.
Speaker 2: Keith also having the grudge against what was his high
Speaker 2: school football coach.
Speaker 3: I think it was baseball. It was football, so I.
Speaker 1: Think it was a football coach.
Speaker 2: But he had a grudge over a coach called him
Speaker 2: out by name on the broadcast.
Speaker 1: That guy's very dead.
Speaker 3: He's probably been dead for thirty years. I also liked
Speaker 3: that they highlighted some random Mets do in the stands,
Speaker 3: just like dancing with his arms being funny. That clip
Speaker 3: has a chance to stick around, like the old famous
Speaker 3: twist water bottle clip from a decade ago that was
Speaker 3: probably more a decade ago at this point, but fun
Speaker 3: to hear them. Yap and want to shout out new
Speaker 3: fran Samy Steffura because he did a little interview with
Speaker 3: a with Max Goodman, who I think is NJ dot
Speaker 3: com Beat reported their first year in the b for
Speaker 3: Max and he has to four his all time Mets team,
Speaker 3: And some people were getting on Sammy because he said
Speaker 3: his all time Mets third baseman was J. J. Davis.
Speaker 3: I got. I want to tell people to back off
Speaker 3: the kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I back off the kid. Won Why do you
Speaker 2: care what he picks?
Speaker 1: Two? He is a Mets fan. I'm telling you he
Speaker 1: is a Mets fan.
Speaker 3: I've been accusing him of being a fake Mets fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had conversationship.
Speaker 2: Yes, Sammy David Wright is the only right answer at
Speaker 2: third base.
Speaker 1: But also to his credit, he's twenty one years old,
Speaker 1: so he was born in what two thousand and.
Speaker 3: Five, He's born two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Okay, two thousand and four, so let's just say he
Speaker 2: started to following. Some people don't follow baseball until they're
Speaker 2: ten years old. I think that's even early for like
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of baseball fans. So Sammy Stefora was
Speaker 2: ten years old in twenty fourteen. That's what prime. David
Speaker 2: Wright like it with.
Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen because it was November. It had been nine
Speaker 3: that whole season, okay.
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, twenty fifteen he got to see the
Speaker 2: lesser version of David Wright play the game. I think
Speaker 2: he understands that David Ray is a better player than J. D.
Speaker 3: Davis.
Speaker 2: I also think the question was more so who would
Speaker 2: be your infield based on who you grew up watching?
Speaker 2: And I know it sounds insane because JD. Davis played
Speaker 2: for third base for the Mets in twenty nineteen. But
Speaker 2: for someone born in two thousand and four, he was
Speaker 2: like fourteen years old, fifteen years old, that's like prime.
Speaker 2: I remember all the teams when I was fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: I talk about Omark Anthonia all the time.
Speaker 3: Just to give a sense of how young Sammy Stuffer is.
Speaker 3: He was signed less than fewer than two months before
Speaker 3: Carlos Beltran signed his first contract with the Mets. Oh god, no,
Speaker 3: November two thousand and four. Bell trans sign in January
Speaker 3: two thousand and five. Also, we talked about Sammy. Maybe
Speaker 3: the first time you start to really get in with
Speaker 3: these teams. You're ten years old. So you want to
Speaker 3: hear the Mets who've had the most played appearance at
Speaker 3: third base every year since twenty fifteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can I can I take some guesses?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Twenty fifteen?
Speaker 1: Who wasn't I can't be David Wright.
Speaker 3: It wasn't David Wright.
Speaker 1: Was Eric Campbell?
Speaker 3: It was Eric Campbell? Nice?
Speaker 1: Nice?
Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen seventeen, same guy.
Speaker 1: That can't be David Right? You still missed so much time?
Speaker 3: Was not David Right? David whi' is not in this list?
Speaker 3: You'd never let the Mets and play the appearance at
Speaker 3: the third base after twenty fourteen?
Speaker 2: There you go, twenty sixteen seventeen, would that have been? No,
Speaker 2: that's not the Todd Father.
Speaker 1: I don't think Oh, Wilmer, Wilmer, Yeah, that's right, he.
Speaker 3: Was third base eighteen nineteen. Was the Todd Father? Twenty twenty?
Speaker 1: JD.
Speaker 3: Davis boom Right, there twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Fever twe Mets? Oh EDWARDO Escobar? No?
Speaker 3: That was twenty twenty two, Jose ray Is no? Thank God?
Speaker 1: Who's the mister? Basement? Twenty twenty one?
Speaker 3: Johnathan Vr?
Speaker 1: How did I forget?
Speaker 3: Old?
Speaker 1: Johnthan Vr? Shot out ernie twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: wait we skip twenty twenty two?
Speaker 3: Two is Escobar okay?
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three? Third base for the Mets? So this
Speaker 1: was who was it?
Speaker 3: Bret Baby that's never good? Was also him in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five? Now what that's time? It was good in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, Mark Fianzos This year Boba Schett so
Speaker 3: bit of revolving to her third base in Samyston was
Speaker 3: probably watching a lot of Mets games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he just he didn't get to really
Speaker 2: see a lot of David right probably. I think it's
Speaker 2: very fair to to give someone at least the leeway
Speaker 2: of like over under ten and a half years.
Speaker 1: Old when you started watching the Mets.
Speaker 3: And twenty nineteen J. D. Davis when Samuel was fourteen
Speaker 3: years old, was sick magical.
Speaker 1: I'll never believe theable that that walk off against the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians down the left field line. That was amazing
Speaker 1: was that.
Speaker 3: No, that was Todd Fraser had to walk off against
Speaker 3: the Nationals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That's when I bought a Todd Father jersey.
Speaker 2: Shout Sean Doolittle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these prospects are young, don't hassle them on social media.
Speaker 3: I don't really get it, and I feel like not cool, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doubt Honestly, some of the biggest loser shit we've
Speaker 2: ever done as a Mets fan base is sounding this guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say it's deferred. Chill it again. We'd love
Speaker 3: love to have him on this podcast soon and again guys.
Speaker 3: We said at the top, we're planning messed up community
Speaker 3: outing in city Field upper deck Tuesday, August eighteenth against
Speaker 3: the Nationals. And if you guys want, we're gonna trying
Speaker 3: to eat a bunch of re tissery chickens. So everyone's
Speaker 3: welcome to bring their own. It's it's a b yo
Speaker 3: RC being a ruined rotisserie chicken into the upper decas
Speaker 3: city Field. They have very lax food policy they bring in.
Speaker 3: They'll let you bring in any food you bring from homes, right.
Speaker 2: And probably a soft container. I feel like you probably
Speaker 2: can't bring in a hard shell.
Speaker 3: Im I'm literally I'm gonna pick one up on my
Speaker 3: walk to the train.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I'm grabbing one right from one of
Speaker 2: the trade fairs or very freshes.
Speaker 1: Or whatever you're around me in Astoria.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to a foodp is over in Brooklyn. But that's
Speaker 3: that's going to be the plan. Really again, you guys
Speaker 3: don't have to bring retist chicken. In't give a shit
Speaker 3: if you don't. Don't give a shit if you do.
Speaker 3: But that's what we're gonna do. What you kind of
Speaker 3: want to see if we get a viral moments, Seves
Speaker 3: and I will show us on TV section We'll see
Speaker 3: section five twenty one.
Speaker 2: We're gonna just say it now, something in the corner. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll find something in the corner again. All the information
Speaker 2: will be in the Mets up discord, So link will
Speaker 2: be in the description of this YouTube video if you
Speaker 2: want to join. It's completely free. It's pretty cool place.
Speaker 2: It's like super super active shouts everybody in there. And
Speaker 2: then before we wrap up Little Mets preview for the
Speaker 2: next series, James. Otherwise, people are gonna lose their mind if.
Speaker 3: We don't give them this goy to do the preview
Speaker 3: this weekend. Nice off to Anthras. Everyone enjoy off day
Speaker 3: from this godforsaken team. I hope Mark and I will.
Speaker 3: But Friday weekend series against the Nationals coming to town.
Speaker 3: Nationals also just dramatically falling out of the playoff race
Speaker 3: right now, but we've got some fun pitching matchups of course,
Speaker 3: Friday night seven to ten. That's what we'll be watching closely.
Speaker 3: Robert Stock versus Andrew Alvarez Andrew Alphares.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Am I wrong in saying he's got no stuff?
Speaker 2: But it just keeps working.
Speaker 3: No, Andrew Alphas does a cool thing. There's a cool
Speaker 3: Fangratz article about him where he has a nice curveball
Speaker 3: and he's got a Jyro slider that plays off it
Speaker 3: because he can throw the pitches the same velo and
Speaker 3: they have different movement. Interesting, okay, which usually we're throwing
Speaker 3: curveball and is moving more, it's coming in slower. But
Speaker 3: the fact that he has one pitch that dropped a
Speaker 3: few inches and one pitch that dropped a few inches
Speaker 3: more and they got the same velocity, it helps him
Speaker 3: be very deceptive. So that's a cool thing. Then Saturday
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see Jackson Kent, interesting prospect
Speaker 3: coming up for the Nationals. He's facing Sean and Ila
Speaker 3: left off and then Sunday Magnets. He left that one
Speaker 3: big Lank Clubs. That's also a fourteen, great game to
Speaker 3: go to. And then Sunday one for the Christian Scott
Speaker 3: against old friend Jake Irvin.
Speaker 1: Jake Irvin. Oh, he's due for ten strikeouts against the
Speaker 1: Mets or.
Speaker 3: Hopefully ten rounds. I want to see like an absolute
Speaker 3: barn Burners in these games. I want Robert Stock to
Speaker 3: pitch twelve. Of course, em and I and Christian Scott,
Speaker 3: but I'd like to see some like I want these
Speaker 3: Nationals team plays with action. They're right now without James
Speaker 3: wood c j Abrams still a monster. They trade Luis
Speaker 3: Garcia player to watch. I'by Melo Cortez. He I didn't
Speaker 3: realize the underlying stats this guy had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he might run a whiff rate at
Speaker 2: some point in the forty percent range, but he'd be
Speaker 2: swinging it.
Speaker 3: The swing decisions are good. You've seen the batspied on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bat speed's nuts.
Speaker 3: Seventy six min hour bath beats Sentile.
Speaker 1: How the league adjusts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely too. I mean he's a five to ten
Speaker 3: left tend to hitting first baseman, so there's definitely is
Speaker 3: an archetype concern. He was one of the auxiliary pieces
Speaker 3: and the Mackenzie Gore trade that made which is already
Speaker 3: insane dividends for the Nationals. Politiva Palt Boddy walked into
Speaker 3: Nashals said, you see how easy this fucking shit. This
Speaker 3: guy see how easy this to build a team in
Speaker 3: six months? This Dak has a wizard. But this Nationals
Speaker 3: team still as one of the worst bullpens in the league.
Speaker 3: They have bad pitching day in and day out. Let's
Speaker 3: get out there, have some fun. Let's le let's keep
Speaker 3: let's keep pushing Carson Ben's Rookie of the year and
Speaker 3: see Nolan McLeay could jump in the two. Let's get
Speaker 3: top two rookie of the year.
Speaker 4: Just for fun.
Speaker 2: Let's make sure that we know that the Nationals know
Speaker 2: that their season is dead. They got nothing left to
Speaker 2: play for.
Speaker 3: I think, I think there, I know.
Speaker 1: But I want to make sure. I want to stomp
Speaker 1: on the grave.
Speaker 3: Yes, and honestly, let's again, we're probably gonna wind up
Speaker 3: with top six lottery odds by accident. So just be okay.
Speaker 3: If this Mets team wins games, we can't be up
Speaker 3: the people who are, like in my mentions, upset that
Speaker 3: the Mets are winning games because they want to tank
Speaker 3: so badly. Just it's it's not worth it.
Speaker 1: I'd love the name.
Speaker 2: I'd love for them to name any of the top
Speaker 2: six picks over the last five years, name name one.
Speaker 3: I think some of these, I think some of them
Speaker 3: definitely could. All right, fine, Frankie Peppers to close this
Speaker 3: out with Frankie's hot sauce hot question.
Speaker 4: This is Franking tempers. How you're doing this team shows
Speaker 4: life immediately, it doesn't at all, So you know, we
Speaker 4: do what we do with that. I don't kind of
Speaker 4: want to say tonight, gentlemen, my hot take is is
Speaker 4: that you should prepare your hot takes before you have,
Speaker 4: you know, before you say what your hot take is.
Speaker 4: So gentleman, my question do you is what was what
Speaker 4: was your best time you just said something and it
Speaker 4: came out like really right?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, we talk out our ass sometimes it happens,
Speaker 4: But what's been the best time you talked about your ass?
Speaker 4: And it makes sense? All right, gentlemen, take care, I'll
Speaker 4: talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Let's go mets.
Speaker 3: I got a few examples of that. You guys listen
Speaker 3: to hours of this podcast. Yeah, I mean, let's see an.
Speaker 1: Example of talking out of my ass, and it worked
Speaker 1: out for me.
Speaker 3: I was nasty in college at procrastinating and writing banging
Speaker 3: papers at the last minute. I think it was my
Speaker 3: second semester r junior year finals. A lot of my
Speaker 3: finals would be papers and essays because a lot of
Speaker 3: history and policide courses, and I have finals. I had
Speaker 3: like thirty five pages to write among like six essays
Speaker 3: in like four days, and I just I nailed it
Speaker 3: with zero drops of coffee.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: See, my whole play in college for procrastinating was it's
Speaker 2: just got to be a passing grade. I wasn't trying
Speaker 2: to get any sort of good grade if I was
Speaker 2: procrastinating to the last second. So honestly, getting a college
Speaker 2: degree pretty good talking out of my ass moment, considering
Speaker 2: how crazy that that entire college situation was for me.
Speaker 2: But truthfully, almost getting a job with Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: to run their YouTube channel, that's one of a good
Speaker 2: talking out of your ass moment.
Speaker 1: Just I know what I did. Well, I have no
Speaker 1: idea how it was actually gonna make that happen for
Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball YouTube channel.
Speaker 3: Yeah right. I think when I was still applying to
Speaker 3: jobs that I weren't in sports. Every you have a
Speaker 3: job interview, I'm like, I'm I'm just yapping right now.
Speaker 2: I remember, right before I decided to full time, I
Speaker 2: applied for an advertising job to one job, one one job.
Speaker 2: They were like, Okay, you got the job, but you
Speaker 2: need to go to Charleston, West Virginia for a year
Speaker 2: before we moved you to the Atlanta office.
Speaker 1: I almost worked in Atlanta and they gave me like
Speaker 1: a wage that was like horrendous. It was like such
Speaker 1: a low amount of money, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: want this amount of money and I want to be
Speaker 1: in Atlanta right now.
Speaker 2: They called back through like deal. I'm like, ah, YouTube
Speaker 2: channel just took off. I'm not gonna take it. Sorry, guys, like,
Speaker 2: you can't do this.
Speaker 3: You can't do that to us.
Speaker 1: Fun experience, the.
Speaker 3: Only job you ever almost got, you told them, now
Speaker 3: that's yeah, oh my god. This. So many people are
Speaker 3: in Appy like this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: It's good be in Mark. It's good being Mark. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good talk out your ass moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, a lot lots of opportunities like that.
Speaker 3: And in the world, especially when you in New York,
Speaker 3: you've got out every single week you talk out your
Speaker 3: ass everyone at the bar. It's fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Of course rock Rolla. Shout out Rock Rolla as always.
Speaker 2: And then last little thing here, Uh just want to
Speaker 2: give a quick shout to my uncle George, huge Mets fan.
Speaker 2: Uh passed away this week and listened to the Messed
Speaker 2: Up podcast. We've talked about him before, but uh.
Speaker 3: We'll miss him in Yeah, love uncle George.
Speaker 1: Happy, Uncle George.
Speaker 3: Happy you got to see the next get one?
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, let's go next.
Speaker 3: And that's it.
Speaker 1: Guys, Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching.
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Speaker 1: Then I'm drafting Mark. We'll catch you guys on the
Speaker 1: next one.
Speaker 3: Peace out, peace like guys, go Mets