WEBVTT - Francisco Lindor NY Post Article & Mets vs Braves Series Recap | 602 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:00.840 What is Up? Mets fans? 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.880 Welcome back to another episode of the Mets Up Podcast. 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:06.800 Of course a series ender, so me and James can 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.320 record at midnight to get you guys out in episode 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.360 for the next morning. Lose a series to the Atlanta Braves, 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:14.640 but we did win the season series. If for those 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.639 of you keeping track at home, the Mets take the 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:17.880 season series from the Braves. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.000 When was the last time the Mets took a season 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:20.880 series from the Braves? 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.280 Mark twenty sixteen. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.760 It was twenty seventeen. Oh close, okay, do you want 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.720 to roll through the Braves roster that season? 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:30.400 Yeah, let me take some guesses. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:32.680 Take some guesses. Who do you think had the most 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.280 played appearance at second base for the Braves in twenty seventeen? 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.040 Second base for the Braves in twenty seventeen? Yep, oh man, 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:40.840 is that gonna be like Omar and Fonte? 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.680 No? Oh well, no, no, no, way, way more shocking, 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.440 way more. I wouldn't even have remembered this guy played 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.320 for the Braves, Ricky Weeks. But awesome player. No, who 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:56.560 is it? Brandon Phillips? Okay, I say the oh right 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.160 right field, Nick Markaikas, left field, MATC cam Tyler Flowers 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.600 a catcher, Matt Adams on that team, Chased Ourn, Anthony 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.640 Record got play the appearance on that team. Are A 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.200 Dickie was on that team. Ri Dicky was playing in 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.520 twenty seventeen. That feels insane. Yeah, the Mets have it. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.000 This is the first time the Mets of one season 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.880 series against the Braves since Ronaldy Clueney Junior came up. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:18.800 Well, that's great. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.080 We also got the thing that we're mostly gonna talk about, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:25.280 which is gonna be the Francisco Lindor interview with Mike Buma. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:25.520 Again. 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.520 I don't know why we keep having this conversation, but 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.920 we see clicks. We got to do it ourselves. So 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.280 that's why you see it in the title and the 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.480 thumbnail and everything. Francisco Lindor talks about future with the 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.800 New York Mets. 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Tuesday, 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.480 that's the eighteenth Rotissory Chicken Night upper Deck City Field. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:05.840 We're gonna organize it later this week. 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:06.400 I like it. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:06.720 I like it. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.600 All right, let's talk about this Mets Braves series real 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.360 quick before you get going into the juicy gossip. Only 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.040 took one of three. Zach Thornton pitch and all mcleaym pitch. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.000 Everybody kind of did relatively what we expected. The Mets 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:18.600 just didn't really hit enough to win the series. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.600 They hit a lot of Monday. After the game. On Monday, 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.400 I was drinking a disgusting amount of kool aid for 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.320 the post deadline Mets, ignoring everything in my brain and 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.880 following everything in my heart, being like, maybe maybe we 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.280 are just going to go on a run. I again, 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.480 stupid as hell, and I see the ball the bullpender 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.720 grests in a really massive way. A few games after that, 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.200 but in that game, we lit up Bryce Elder thankfully. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.400 I said that that was the goal this series was 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.200 lighting up Bryce Elder. Francisco Lindor got the home run, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.880 inching that ops ever closer to eight hundred. As again 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.840 the puff pieces keep coming out about him. Can't wait 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.680 to talk about that a little bit. Brett Baty hit 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.880 the Grand Slam, like what exactly where he his first 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.079 career home run in Atlanta? Is just amazing how much 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.000 he how much he loves right field lan He loves 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.160 right field Atlanta so much he backed up a play 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.400 who with off the wall? Was it a Kunya? Yeah, 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.000 Kunya hit off the wall on Wednesday and Luis Ropportunia 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.440 was just kind of hanging out in center, Carson benched 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.280 over into the wall and Brett Bady goes out to 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:10.880 right field to get the ball at the second base. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.400 But just a nice game on Monday, and again there 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.120 was that moment where I kind of was drinking the 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.000 kool aid about this Mets team being leaving like a 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.320 better than five hundred ball club with this god awful 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:22.280 roster down the stretch. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:23.880 I mean, it's just a conversation we had on the 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.480 last episode of that. There are good pieces here for 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.480 a cor and we're missing a very, very big one 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:31.480 in mon Sota right now, and they're playing better baseball 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.560 than they were earlier in the season, and it's just 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.440 it felt like all this stuff happened a little bit 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.920 too late again threading the needle. The common theme of 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.720 this season is just trying to be a little too particular, 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.960 and it's probably a little bit too late now. 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.040 Yeah, definitely a little bit too late. I mean even 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.800 just again, we want to spend ten to fifteen minutes 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:50.800 in these episodes now talking about the actual series and 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.520 talk about all the juicy stuff that you guys are 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.840 clicking on our titles and thumbnails for. But I liked 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:00.360 seeing Christian Scott. I mean, he definitely wasn't super efficient game. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.080 His command was way worse than it's been lately. He 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.200 had to battle a little bit, and that was kind 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.120 of frustrating because he got Spy the five run lead 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:07.440 before he took them out, So I would have liked 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.760 to see him hang out for five and get a victory. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.200 But he's just one of those starts where he wasn't 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.520 very fine against the lefties, and it's kind of unfortunate 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.400 because the Braves don't really platoon, so he had the 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.520 opportunity to face more righty than usual in this game, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.240 but again just a little Waukee didn't have super great 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.880 command to think of the sweeper or the cover gave 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.440 up a lot of hits. It's just you know, one 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.320 of those starts wasn't really perfect, but the ballpen super 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:28.920 picked him up. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.239 This feels like the classic start of a guy coming 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.039 back from a major surgery in a season where he's 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.160 been pitching so incredibly well that when he isn't at 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.800 that same level, you almost have to remind yourself again 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.240 that this guy is coming back from a major, major injury. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.760 So there's gonna be times where he just doesn't have 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.039 the stuff. The arm strength looks great, but he's still 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.440 building it up. He still doesn't have that many innings 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.719 in the last few years underneath his belt. So for 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.719 Christian Scott to like have a human start against the Braves, yes, 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.000 frustrating from the standpoint of couldn't get the win and 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.720 couldn't get five. But at the same time, and I 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.040 know you're not saying this, James, but couldn't be less 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.400 worried about Christian Scott right now. 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.160 Honestly, I'm not worried about any Mets pictures. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.760 I'm worried. Worry is the furthest thing from my mind. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.039 Even talking about the game on Tuesday, it was nice 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.720 to get diced up by Martine Paris not even have 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.120 the effect my mood one io. That was amazing, Like that. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:17.719 Was just nice. 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.280 That was beautiful to go through and see it just again, 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.719 I'm gonna run around all this stuff chaos haphazardously. It's 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.360 really cool to see the growth of Nolan McLain where 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.080 he can have a game like he did on Tuesday, 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.159 where he's not even close to being sharp in any way, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.479 shape or form, and they still just can't even touch him. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.760 Like that's a that's an amazing thing for a picture 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.400 who's still technically a rookie as he continues his pursuit 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:41.880 towards the Rookie of the Year with nowt three point 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:46.960 four two era just to be again not sharp. Sinker 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.039 command was kind of all over the place, miss badly, 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.760 with a few of them finding more reasons to lean 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.080 on that high fastball, which is really cool how he's 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.440 been able to locate that, but also kind of hypothesizing 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.400 that maybe that's impacting his sinker command and he went 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.840 to more colors than this because the curveball was really 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.320 really wonky again, and just not that many sweepers. He 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.120 just fully went away from sweeper. It almost like they're 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.800 two sweepers in this game. I can never imagine a 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.720 time he should be doing that. Besides like this where 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:12.800 he just doesn't know where it's going. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:14.919 It really feels like at times in that stadium. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.000 And this is completely anecdotal that it plays like Cours 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.640 for pitchers where I've never seen so many good pitchers 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.880 who can spin it just completely lose it like you 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.520 do in Atlanta, and not even like watching the Mets 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.599 play there, watching other teams play there too, It's like, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:30.960 oh and Ace walks into Atlanta and he gets his 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.000 tits lit? How is that even possible? It feels like 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.360 it happens way more than often. Yes, the Braves have 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:36.840 a good line up, so that's gonna play a part 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.440 of it. But I know it's like sneaky. The second 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.080 highest elevation I think in the league. 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.120 I was about to say that it's very I mean, 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.520 it's not enough elevation to impact the pitches in any 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.800 way or shape or form close to what Corus Field does. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.719 But this is the second highest elevation all baseball, which 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.760 is a very, very use at the bars this weekend. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.240 Guy's a trivia question with your homies, which statey of 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.960 Major Leaue baseball is the second highest elevation because there's Atlanta. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.920 But again, when McClain does and have it, he's still 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.160 so good. That is the mark of someone who can 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.520 grow in to being an ace. Also like how the 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.240 day after it starts he's out there taking ground balls 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.440 and Francisco Lindoor asking for footwork points is a short stop, 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:11.640 like who does shit like that? 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.280 No, the Mets are definitely like loose and I think 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.520 and again we'll talk more about Lindor here in a 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.440 couple of minutes. But like the fact that we're seeing 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.680 more of these things I think happening as the season's 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.200 gone on. Where it felt like at the beginning of 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.120 the year we couldn't get a morsel of anything about 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.760 anything going on with this team whatsoever. Now we're seeing 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.960 guys seem to be hanging out a little bit more, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.920 having a little bit more fun. I wish that the 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.800 fun coincided with winning and chasing a playoff spot, which 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.200 it does not, so does make the pressure. 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.280 Feel a little bit less for these guys. 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.760 But maybe that's just something where they can use that 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.920 as a positive to grow for next season because we 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.920 can't keep doing this year after year now, Like the 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.000 Mets do need to take this pressure and handle it. Well, 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:53.200 this is a good way to learn it. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:55.600 It's almost like there was a target on their back 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.120 coming into the season. They don't really know how to 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:57.800 handle that pressure. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.200 Get no targeting. You can't put a target on the 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.360 back for a team that sucks. 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:03.520 Yeah, well again it because they suck now, but the 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.480 target was on their back. Also, we saw Gabriel Aarius's 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.600 Met's deput He's gotta have the worst hair in Major 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.440 League Baseball. I don't know what's going on there with 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:11.800 that thing. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.280 It's uh, it's a look that I don't think Shiny 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.160 you got great hair, James. I don't think you could 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.200 even pull that hair off. It is truly one of 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.160 a kind, and I don't I don't know how one 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:22.360 gets a hair to look like that. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.520 No, I don't neither, But get a shout out him 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.040 for getting it to look like that. Also, I want 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:27.920 to know what. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.040 Looked back at that trade. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.520 By the way, how did the how did the Cleveland 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.160 Guardians get seven prospects for Mike Clevenger. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.760 At the time, Clevenger was nasty. Like I it was, 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:39.440 ahm in time, we didn't know how much of a 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.520 shithead he was. Yet he's like absolute piece of dirt. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.440 He just got so many guys, like they got Nailer, 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.280 they got Hedges, they got Gabriel Arias. None of them 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.320 have really panned out to be like he's super superstars, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:50.640 but like it was a crazy trade. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:51.319 Looking back at. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.080 It, I mean, Prebler's just he's aj Preller and we're 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.120 seeing the Padres next week's we'll talk about him then. Also, 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.440 I don't know why Jay Planco maybe stopped taking three 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.480 hundred swings before games, because seems like that's the only 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.120 time this whole year the swing was right, and swing's 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.960 not looked anywhere close to right since then. Whatsoever? 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:06.679 So bad? 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:08.920 This is also I feel like this happened to the 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.320 Mets more times I can ever remember this year. 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He checked look good again on Wednesday, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.960 But could he check on Jeffreyon and Chase McDermand who 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.720 still flashes nice stuff but got roped in the was 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.280 at the eighth inning against the Braves. That was that 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.440 was rough one, but this was it was nice on 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:53.560 Tuesday and Wednesday. These games are over fast speak quick, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.520 easy losses. And then just watching Zach Thorton on Wednesday 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.840 worthwhile fun pitcher. We tell him the next Johnnice. I'd 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.959 like that he's widened the repertoire out more. I like 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.000 that we had more opportunities to see him against the 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.240 left handed bathers in this game, because again, the Braves 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.800 don't platoon as much as many other teams in the league. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.760 It's just I like, I like Zach Thorton. We're gonna 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.920 keep saying in every single podcast that he's he's a 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.360 fun young pitcher. Please don't put sky high expectations on 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.040 him because he had a really good five start run 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:21.800 to start his career. 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:22.680 I don't know, James. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.520 The comments section says that we pick on Zach Thornton, 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:26.080 that we are. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.079 So I think we're doing to protect him. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.880 I was like, yeah, I couldn't disagree more. I think 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.840 we're actually being one realist is not being hard on 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.640 someone that is that there needs more realism in this world. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.120 A lot of people live in fantasy land. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.920 Zach Thornton himself knows that he is not an an 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.400 ace pitcher in the Mets rotation. But I want the 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.320 mentality for him to be that he goes out there 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.720 every single time and I am better than you, which 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.000 I do get that sense with him, which a lot 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:52.840 of times from a lot of left handed pitchers in 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.120 this organization over the last decade talk about the mental 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.040 side of things. They had zero mentals. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:11:59.920 Yeah, I don't want you to just pull all these 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.559 He's in the same bucket that's that's you're being a 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:02.040 little bit of. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:03.839 Doing this right. I'm doing it. I'm doing that. They 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.560 have to be put in the same bucket. 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.000 Marks A leftis you heard it here first. But I 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.280 also like if you if you saw on Instagram. You 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.200 don't know if you follow Zach, but he did the 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.840 post the other day and he's an Oliver Tree songs. 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.800 That's a ball nower right there. And I did like 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.760 in this Star specifically that he was just in trouble. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.199 It felt like like from the first five pitches of 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.560 every single inning game. Yeah, and he's just he's really 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.440 he has this innate ability and some people could say 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.520 this is bullshit, this is you know, this is not 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.720 there's nothing in the spreadsheet, guys. But he just grits 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.400 his teeth and he finds ways through. He got that 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.960 nice double play off of Olsen when it was first 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.079 and third, nobody out. I think that was the third inning, 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.840 and then he got well Roble Queen Junior just ran 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.000 into an out in the fifth inning, just out of nowhere. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.960 And then Zach Thorton was able to leave the start 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.280 on a high note. I thought they were gonna try 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:48.760 and push him for seven, but they had to get 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.480 Dadanielle in there to really try and secure the loss. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.280 Because remember people hearing us about being upset, this team 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.880 wasn't tanking. Were this team's gonna tank by accident? Guys, 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.960 The deadline was was the Tanka bullpen is a baseball 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:01.800 bad for as excited as he's been about for the 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.199 last week. But again, you take Thorin out after a 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.480 nice one two, three innings, six innings, quality start, eighty pitches. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.000 He can leave this game with his head health high, 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.600 rather than trying to push him an additional ending and 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.120 risk leaving a start with a bit of a sour 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:15.880 taste in your mouth. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.400 Yeah, he got the loss in this one, but he 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.720 is by no means the reason the Mets lost this game. 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.480 He made a great start, Like you said, it wasn't 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.199 a dominant start to win where the lack of Mets 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.040 offense could have overcame what happened. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:30.760 But I like Zach Thornton. 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.480 I think he's really good, and I do think that 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.800 the common section is misconstruing a lot of what we're 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:35.559 saying about him. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.120 We're just trying to protect our boy because we don't want. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.160 The nonsense that happens every single time a rookie gets 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.240 called up and has, like you said, a good little 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.400 five start stretch. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.280 Or like the first half from David Peterson twenty twenty five, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.199 where you're like, Yep, this is it. He's nice. It's not. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.280 Just wait a second, did you see a nice Tyler 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:51.280 Moley looked in this game? 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.800 Yeah? The Braves they fucking did it again. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.600 I mean he just the way he was commanding that 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.000 fastball and splither like it was. It was perfect. He'd 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.960 lived on that out of the edge with those two pitches, 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.760 and if you looked at his pitch start from this game, 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.760 they were just lined up on the outer edge against 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.800 the Rities. The fastballs were about a little leather high, 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.319 but still like right on the black and the spit 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.720 is just falling down, straight down off it was. It 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.840 was beautiful. And we also keep having the Francisco Alvarez 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.360 conversations because when he's ninth in the oither fucking rakes 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.200 one of the best lighters in the game the Gary 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.680 and I think Ron dropped it on Monday that of 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.640 all hitters who've hit the ninth spot in the oarder 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.640 this year, Alvarez has the highest hope ps by far 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.440 when hitting in the ninth spot, like something in the 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.880 nine hundreds. But every time he goes to a different spot, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.240 he has no approach, he has no semblance of the 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.360 play at the play whatsoever. I really don't know what 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.280 it is. It's like an insane hintrance in his development 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.520 that he has to hit ninth to hit effectively. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.200 It feels like there is a definite focus issue with 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.480 Francisco Alvarez, and something about hitting ninth, at least from 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.120 an offensive side, gets him to focus a little bit 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.800 more because also to. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.280 The opposite you think he gets a relax I. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.040 Don't know, man, because at the I think the the 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.160 reason I said the focus problem is because he has 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.080 regressed so insanely. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.720 Are defensively is he can't catch. He can't catch the baseball. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.040 It is a difficult thing for him to do. Right now. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.400 That's all focused, that's all. That's all that is. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.840 He's up to an eleven hundred ops and one hundred 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.480 and ten play the appearances from the ninth spot in 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.520 the order. But I'm saying I think he's a little 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.400 bit too in. I mean, this is again not defensively. 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.440 I'm talking offensively at the plate, like in that ninth 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.440 inning when the Met's kind of had the Lacy's on 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.520 the ropes after the Boat sold a home run and 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.120 he's up there is to go ahead run. He's very 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:31.600 clearly trying to hit through an home run and be 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.360 the hero win the game. Oh wait, he hits a 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.560 pop out and outside fastball or color to first base 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.200 and he like it looked like he kind of had 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.160 a freak out ime. They quickly s Andy caught the 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.920 pan of Ossie Albi's and mettals a kind of looking 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:45.960 back at him, like he is he really like pissed 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.480 off right now, Like they were like kind of shocked 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.800 about his reaction to a PopOut for a team twenty 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.280