1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, I am Tarika Foster Brassby. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: And y'all know what time it is. I'm your girl, Cheryl. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Swoops And this is levels to this podcast. This is 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: the show where we share that it's levels to the ship. 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: That women go through. 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: Man, we've got such a great show today. We're definitely 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: going to talk about some WNBA. The season is over, 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: the series is over. The New York Liberty have won 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: the first ever title for the sake of New York 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: and the WNBA, So we definitely got to talk about that. 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: But first we got to catch up Cheryl, because you 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: and I have not seen home and I don't know 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: how long. 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: It's been a while. 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: It's been a minute. 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I was on the road for thirteen days and I 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: thought that my husband missed me. When I got home, 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: he did, I mean he did kind of. It was 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: it lasted for like twenty minutes. 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: That was it. 22 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: It was twenty minutes. I came home. He was all excited, 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: gave me the good. 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: Hug, all that kind of stuff, sat. 25 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 3: Down on the couch. 26 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: About fifteen minutes in he was just like yo, loud 27 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: mouth ass. 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: Is back. 29 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 5: Waite, Wasn't he like okay, baby? When's your next. 30 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: Trip where you go? 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: Ready to go? It's right because I'm on Friday Friday here, but. 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 5: I think that's just but that's men, right, Like, yeah, 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 5: you're right. And I was talking about this earlier, like 34 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 5: like I'm all in my feelings right now. 35 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: Because i missed my husband. 36 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 5: I've been on the road not quite thirteen, but i've 37 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 5: been on the road for seven. Yeah, I've been on 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 5: the road for seven and I got to be on 39 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 5: the road for another three, so it'll be ten eleven days. 40 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: By the time I get home. But you know, I'm a. 41 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 5: Very like affectionate, emotional woman. 42 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: I love my time with my husband. 43 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: And so this morning he said, baby, you're not on 44 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 5: a plane home yet, right, And I was like, oh, I. 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: Said, maybe you miss me. 46 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: Stop laughing, damn stop laughing. And he was like, yeah, 47 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 5: I do miss you. So I said, what do you miss? 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: Now? Let me let me let me say. 49 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 5: This, because I always like take care of him before 50 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 5: I leave. I make like meals, I cook, I make 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 5: greens and chicken and rice, whatever it is he wants. 52 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 5: So I said, well, what do you miss? He said, well, 53 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: I mean I am on my last pot of greens. 54 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 5: So I was like, Oh, so you missed my cooking. 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: That's what you missed. 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: That's what you missed. 57 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Homecree, you want me to just come home, make you 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: some more food, and get bass back out of the road. 59 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, lord, But you know what this 60 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: reminds me of? 61 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: Though I got mad for a second and then I laughed. 62 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: But you know what this reminds me of. 63 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 5: Like, seriously, our first episode out the different levels to 64 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 5: motherhood and being wives and stuff, like, we just talked 65 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 5: about all the things that we as women have to 66 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 5: do and take care of, and this is part of it. 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: Yep, it is, it really is. 68 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: It's funny because I caught my husband called me when 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: I was out. I was in Minnesota getting ready to 70 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: go back to New York. This was Friday. This was 71 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: this past Friday. And so my home is heated by 72 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: an oil by like oil furnace and not like an 73 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: electric furnace. So whenever the oil tank gets low, we 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: have to call the energy people to come out and 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: refill the oil. 76 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: So wait a minute, wait a minute, wait it oil 77 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: not gas. 78 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gas. It's not a gas furnace. It's 79 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: an oil furnace. 80 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: So it actually it actually saves me a little bit 81 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: of money in the longer stane, okay. 82 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: Because I don't have to pay a gas bill or 83 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: a heat bill at all in the summer, So from 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: like March to like September, I'm good, right, But we'll 85 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: pay a little bit, maybe anywhere between five or six 86 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: hundred dollars for them to come and fill up the oil, 87 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: and the oil will last me for like three months. 88 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: So we could. Yeah. 89 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, we turned our we turned our furnace off 90 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: in March. I turned it back on before we left 91 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: because it started to get a little chili. So we 92 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: were already a little low. Friday comes along and Greg. 93 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: Says, oh, by the way, the the heat is off. 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: And I said, the heat is off? What you mean? 95 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I think the tank is low. This 96 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: is Friday. I am in Minnesota. 97 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: About it? Yeah, what you're gonna know about it? 98 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: So I said, you you ain't called a man and 99 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: tell him to come out here. He's like, man, I 100 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: forgot about it until like a few minutes ago. 101 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: So you've been in the cold for three days. It's 102 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: what you said, You've been in the cold. 103 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: This whole time. What I mean, you gonna called a 104 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: man to come out and put some oil in the 105 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: damn place? 106 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, well, y'all are going for you to get 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: home to do that. 108 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay cold. I'm just gonna stay bro. 109 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm not home until Monday is Friday. You're just gonna 110 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: be you know, hoodie around the house. 111 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. 112 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 5: Listen, it can't it cannot just be your husband and 113 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 5: my husband. Like I know y'all out there, sisters, women. 114 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: I know y'all could relate to this. I know you can't. 115 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: And you know what, and the men are probably like, damn, 116 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: that's I did it that me? 117 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 118 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: God yeah, but it's so funny. It's funny. 119 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 5: But but my point is this, But for him to 120 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 5: call you and say, oh, the gas is off and 121 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 5: you're not even home, I'm like, what do you want 122 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 5: to do? 123 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: He wanted you to call, He wanted you to call 124 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: and get it feel all. He wanted me to call 125 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: the man to come out here. I called the man 126 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: on Friday and told the man we needed some oil 127 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: for the for the furnace, and he was like, I 128 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: will gladly come out. But I can't come out until Monday. 129 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Now I could have said, sir, it's an emergency, it's 130 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: no heat in my house, can you come out? 131 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: But I see, hey on. 132 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: No since show ass in this code ass house. 133 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: I'm good. 134 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 3: I'm good. 135 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: I got heat, I got a c I got service, 136 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 5: I could control it. 137 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: I'm good. 138 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 139 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: So needless to say, yesterday we got to eat the house. 140 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: It was great, of course you did. 141 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: But the whole entire purpose of me not being home 142 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: for thirteen days is because I was on the road 143 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: covering the WNBA Finals. So going back and forth from 144 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: New York to Minnesota and then back to New York 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: again for Game five, I'm like, wow, this series has 146 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: been a series in Cheryl. I can't wait to dive 147 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: and to not only this finals, but really this overall. 148 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: Season with you. 149 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and get ready to take this 150 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: to the next level. 151 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: Cheryl. I don't think that I have missed and this 152 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: might be very different for you because you have played 153 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: in four WNBA finals. You don't know what it's like 154 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: to lose a WNBA finals. That is what it is. 155 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: But I was so thoroughly entertained from Game one to 156 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: Game five of this finals, that it didn't surprise me 157 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: one bit that it would end in the fashion that 158 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: it ended, So for those who may have missed it, 159 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: the New York Liberty are now the twenty twenty four 160 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: WNBA champions after an overtime thriller in a Game five 161 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: where they won sixty seven to sixty two, and not 162 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: without controversy, because there was indeed a controversial call. At 163 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: the end of regulation. With ten point one seconds left 164 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: on the clock, the Minnesota Lynks were up sixty to 165 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: fifty eight and a file was called on Atlanta Smiths 166 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: against Brianna Stewart, where to me it looked all bald. 167 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: If there was any contact, the contact was so marginal, 168 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how a referee could have called it, 169 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: but they did call it. She went to the free 170 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: throw line, she hit both free throws, tied the score 171 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: sixty sixty, and. 172 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: That's how we ended up going in overtime. Sure, yeah, yeah, 173 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: charl Reeves, I. 174 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: Say that was my that was my rewind. 175 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's rewind before that foul call. Let's rewind because 176 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 5: Brianna Stewart did travel I'm sorry, and did she did? 177 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 5: The New York shuffle if there is such a thing, 178 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 5: and did and that too, Yes, just it was. 179 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: It was unreal how many missed calls. And granted it 180 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: was on both. 181 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Sides, because no doubt there were there were. It was 182 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: just terrible officiating. But down the stretch there was just 183 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: some things that happened that made Sheryl Ribs say they 184 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: stole the championship from us. 185 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: This was stolen from us. These these things should not 186 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 3: have happened. That happened. 187 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Whereas on the other side, Sandy Brondella, who had just 188 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: argued the game before, yes, like game these thing, this thing, this, 189 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: she was saying it wasn't fair. She felt it was 190 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: pretty fair, which it is fair when you win. It 191 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: is unfair when you lose. So Suiryl, just overall, number one, 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: what did you think about the series? And number two, 193 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: what were your overall thoughts on Game five? 194 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 5: So the series itself, I loved. I was hoping, you know, 195 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 5: it's funny. Halfway through the season, I was like, damn, 196 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 5: I'll be ready when the season's over because there was 197 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 5: just way too much ugliness and just stuff right, and 198 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 5: then we. 199 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: Get to the finals, I'm like, oh, I do not 200 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: want this series to end. That's what you want from 201 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: the finals. 202 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: You wanted to go to Game five, or if it's 203 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 5: Game seven, you wanted to go Game seven. But every 204 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 5: single game was good, Every game was competitive. 205 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: Listen, I was here for it. 206 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: Team I didn't. I don't know about you. I don't 207 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 5: know about very many people had Minnesota playing in the finals. 208 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: So I did not have them in the finals, but 209 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: I did have them as one of the final four teams. 210 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: I thought biasedly, I thought Connecticut would would beat Minnesota. 211 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: I did have New York, Vegas, Minnesota, and Connecticut, but 212 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: I thought Connecticut was good enough to beat Minnesota to 213 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: make it to the finals. 214 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: But I did have New York still win it at 215 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: all because I. 216 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Didn't think Connecticut was would be able to contact New 217 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: York for all five games. 218 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: Facts. 219 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 5: The reason why I say that is because when you 220 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 5: look at this Minnesota team, I've always thought he was 221 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 5: a good basketball player, but Nafisa Collier was on a 222 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 5: whole another level this season, and she opened my eyes 223 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 5: and a lot of other people. But people weren't talking 224 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 5: about Nafista Callier very much until this season. But when 225 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 5: I look at the entire Minnesota Leak's team. They're not 226 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 5: a team that's. 227 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: Made up of superstars, right, No, I don't think so. 228 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 5: They're a team that's made up of some really good players, 229 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 5: but they're not your quote superstars. So for them to 230 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 5: play the way they played the entire season to make 231 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 5: it to the finals, to. 232 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: Make it to Game five win. 233 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 5: If you're a Links fan, you say they got cheated 234 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 5: it with stolen. 235 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: If you're a Liberty fan, you say they lost right. 236 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 5: But to make it to Game five of the Finals 237 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 5: in New York with opportunity to win. Listen, you can't 238 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 5: have Stewie shoot four for fifteen and Sabrina go one 239 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 5: for nineteen and you not find a way to win 240 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: that game and you're up twelve, and you're up twelve, 241 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: and you want to sell the story, Suyl, like all 242 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 5: the other stuff happened right Dewey's travel because she didn't travel, 243 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 5: they didn't call it the foul they call on Atlanta 244 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 5: Smith down the stretch back call. 245 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: But it should never even come down to that. It 246 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: shouldn't thank you, thank. 247 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: You, because that is exactly what I said. 248 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Besides the fact that you didn't take care of business 249 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: when you should have him minutes that part two in 250 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: Game three. But the end of the day, there is 251 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: no way you're up twelve with Sabrina and and Stewie having. 252 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: An underperformed both of them, both of them. 253 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 3: And you not only let them get back in. 254 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: But you know, listen, I ain't playing basketball in a 255 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: long time, since since endto high school. But I can 256 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: never forget words from certain coaches, and it's never one 257 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: of and Coach Blackburn always said, if you leave it 258 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: in the hands of the ref, you didn't get urger 259 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: win anyway. 260 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know what. 261 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: Coach Chancellor, my coach Chancellor with the comments he used 262 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 5: to always say to us when we would bitch and 263 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 5: complain about foul calls. He always said, don't allow the 264 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 5: ref to be human, meaning they're going. 265 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: To make mistakes. So just don't don't even put yourself 266 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: in that position where you're relying on the reft to 267 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: make a call or not. 268 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: Yep. 269 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then let's move into overtime. Right when we 270 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: get into overtime, the fact of the matter is you 271 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: turned the ball over four times, you only score two 272 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: points and missed wide open shots, a couple of layups, 273 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: easy bunnies that fell off. I mean realistically, no matter 274 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: how you feel about the foul, you had a chance 275 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: to win. 276 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: You did, and you did it. You did, you did 277 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: and you didn't. 278 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: Now, listen, it's the finals. You are playing for a chip. 279 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: You got to show up. I don't care. That's in regulation, 280 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: that's in overtime. The big dogs got to. 281 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 5: Show up and your role players got to show up. 282 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 5: And you know who showed up for New York Sobbly 283 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 5: Ooh listen, she showed up and showed out. Yeah, if 284 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: they would have given MVP just based off of that 285 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 5: one game, my vote was going to the R just 286 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 5: for that one day. 287 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: I was I was making a joke and I said, 288 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: if she wanted to save herself from the expansion Draft, 289 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: she just did that. 290 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 5: You that she really did, real she really did. 291 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: If you're in New York, you gotta be like, maybe 292 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: we put that protection around around Yes. 293 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: Maybe she's one of our six. 294 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: Maybe she's one of our six. 295 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 5: Seriously, because the moment, the moment wasn't too big for her. 296 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: Nope, I mean literally made the most of her. 297 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: Minutes all season, yes series, excuse me, yes, she made 298 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: the most of her minutes. 299 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: So I was very proud of her. And happy to 300 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: see Satu. They're happy for her. 301 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: But let's talk about MVP for a second, because there 302 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: were some discussion among I think those outside now it. 303 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: It wasn't a public a social media discussion, but I 304 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: was a voter for MVP, and there were a few 305 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: people who were kind of like Dan, We're not sure 306 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: where to go. And for me, it was instantly John Quill. 307 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: John Quill had been the most consistent player that entire 308 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: most about the playoffs. Throughout the playoffs, and they don't 309 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: win this chip if not for John Quill for two 310 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: straight games. I agree with it was the only one 311 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: that was that was that was holding it down offensively. 312 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: She was getting triple teams in the paint at. 313 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: Times and wasn't getting called at times and still had 314 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: to maintain that level of consistency. 315 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: It felt so good to see a. 316 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: Player like John Quill who have came and lost, came 317 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: and conquered, and I feel like the only thing that 318 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: was truly missing from her resume. 319 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Was a w NBA championship. 320 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: And now she tends it me too. You know, I 321 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: was I don't want to say it was hard on her, 322 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: but I. 323 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 5: Was like, John, well, you could dominate a lot more 324 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 5: than you are if you would just establish yourself in 325 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 5: the paint, because Minnesota couldn't do nothing with her in 326 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 5: the paint, you know. But there were times where she 327 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 5: was like, all right, I don't have nothing. This is 328 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 5: in the paint, so let me go get me a 329 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: couple of threes in Now. Granted she could shoot it, 330 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 5: but that's not your game. That's not where she's going 331 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 5: to hurt you. Fee struggle, Atlanta struggle. When dorka you 332 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: has came in, she struggled. There was nobody that could 333 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 5: guard her in the paint. So I'm gonna take this 334 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: time though, to say to John quel Jones, I was wrong. 335 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 5: Since you bawled your ass out, you deserve this finals, MVP, 336 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 5: you deserve this championship. I'm not Bahamian, but I know 337 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 5: Bahama is celebrating right now. They having a party like 338 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 5: no other. But I was just so happy for her. 339 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 5: And I am gonna say this because someone asked me 340 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 5: how I felt, like who was I cheering for? And 341 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 5: I was like, I didn't have a dog in a fight. 342 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 5: I just wanted it to be a great series. I 343 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 5: was looking for a three for three overtimes not just one. 344 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 5: I was like, give me another overtime in another but 345 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: since hear me out, hear me out. At one moment, 346 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: I was pulling for New York. Another moment, I was 347 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 5: pulling for Minnesota. But in reality, I ain't really want 348 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: either one of those teams to win. 349 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: But let me give you my reason. 350 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: I just did not want Minnesota to be that team 351 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 5: that got five championships. I know it's petty, but listen, listen, 352 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: I am petty right now because I'm like, oh no, no, no, 353 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: come on, New York. 354 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: Let's just leave it at four. 355 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 5: I don't need them look at five right now. Okay, 356 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 5: I got to get that out of my system, y'all. 357 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: I am being petty, but that's that's just that's the 358 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 5: competitor in me. I'm being petty because I also saw 359 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 5: somebody call me a hater for saying that that that 360 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: ain't hating, that's just being competitive. 361 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: Like what about competitive yet? 362 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 363 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 5: But but but I'm also saying it jokingly right and 364 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 5: on the other side, because of the battles that the 365 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 5: comments had with the Liberty back in the day, I 366 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 5: never wanted to see New York win a thing. 367 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: I know. 368 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: That's right, thank e h A n G. You hear me? 369 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I do know. 370 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: I can't pull for New York. 371 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 5: New York was our nemesis, like, yes, but we had 372 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 5: some good battles. 373 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: But I but I do have to end on this. 374 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: I felt spoons joy. Oh, I felt her pain. I 375 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: felt her like. 376 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: Like the weight had been lifted off of her shoulder, 377 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 5: even though she doesn't play anymore. 378 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 3: Yes, same thing. 379 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 5: With Sue Wicks, right, because we battle with them and 380 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: for them to never win a championship when they were playing, 381 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 5: but to still be around and involved and to see 382 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: it happen for their squad. I will say I was 383 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 5: so happy for them. 384 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: Yep. 385 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can't. I can't be happy for New 386 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: York very much. 387 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: I know that's the right. 388 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: Let's say first of all, it was funny because I 389 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: was talking to a few friends after Sabrina had hit 390 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: that three point. 391 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: That was crazy, that was crucial too. 392 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: We were talking about that was crucial and crazy because 393 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: that literally is what gave them game three, and I 394 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, the only other shot that like instantly 395 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: comes to mind outside of Neka is Spoons against the comments. 396 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 4: Yeah right, the buzzer sounds the bank shot, the three 397 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: pointer from half court by Teresa Weather Squad and the 398 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: liberty left for another day. The stadium is just stunn 399 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: some Weather schools. You think, okay, let's get it in 400 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 4: the hands of Christah Robinson. But great rotation. She lost it. 401 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: She's able to turn to her right, which defensively, when 402 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: you've got a right handed player, you make them go left. 403 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 4: You put the pressure on them, get in front. Tina 404 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: Thompson is the only one coming up on the defensive 405 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: end and has to play to the side, and they pray. 406 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 4: It's just a prayer, and it's answer. 407 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 5: Perhaps the most remarkable comeback in the three year history 408 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 5: of the WNBA. 409 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Ultimately it didn't matter. 410 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: I know you hated it. I know you did. 411 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: You're real wrong, But ultimately it didn't matter, right because 412 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we know what ended up coming out of that. 413 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: So Lera' said, you ain't got a. 414 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: Wish I could see my face bavvy. 415 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,959 Speaker 5: You know when I said, when I see Raymond, they 416 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 5: want to talk about the shot. 417 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: I tell Spoon, I said, it's all good. 418 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 5: All you did was prolonged and inevitable. Prolong We were coming, 419 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: we was coming back. 420 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 3: I love it. 421 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: I love it, but Spoon legitimately made me. 422 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: She brought me to tears. 423 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: I walked up to her with my phone and I said, Hey, Spool, 424 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: how does it feel to witness you know what has 425 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: been such a long time coming? And I have never 426 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: seen that woman speechless? And I shared it on my 427 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: social media because she was speechless and the emotion and 428 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: the pride, and honestly, I felt it more. I felt 429 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: it was definitely more than just this is New York. 430 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: It was I've been through some shit this year. 431 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: Like this was this, This was like the culmination of 432 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: everything that we fought for to happen. But also just 433 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: I felt like she was saying to me without saying 434 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: to me, I needed. 435 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 5: Something good tea, I said the same thing. It was 436 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: bigger than New York winning the championship. 437 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: It was all the shit that she went. 438 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 5: Through with Chicago and just just so much on her shoulders. 439 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: Girl, y'all. 440 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 5: I felt it through the TV and I was like, 441 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 5: she needed this, she needed this. 442 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: I felt that she needed it. She needed it. I did. 443 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: I felt it. So I was just very excited for 444 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 3: her and very excited for again. You mentioned Sue. Sue 445 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 3: was so excited. 446 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: I saw swing. I was like swinging, not too much, 447 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: not swing. You were shot a minute. 448 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 5: Too much. 449 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: Swim not too much, not too much, swim not too much. 450 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 3: Take your little hat, get your little T shirt. But 451 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: you know, not too much now. 452 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: But when we come back on the other side of 453 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: the break, I think this season was just a season 454 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: unlike any other for so many different reasons. And we'll 455 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: talk about that when we come back. 456 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 4: You know. 457 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: Sure we kind of touched on a little bit the 458 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: season and the way it ended for you know, Teaspoon 459 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: in Chicago, but just really that was just one of 460 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: the many things that happened over the course of this season. 461 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: This season was I said before and I'll say it again. 462 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: I had such a love hate relationship with this season 463 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: because I always love when the w NBA season comes around. 464 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: It's my season. 465 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: I love it right from a working perspective, From a 466 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: fan perspective, I love it. But this season came with 467 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: so much turmoil as well as with the growth. It 468 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: came with so much divisiveness as well as so much. 469 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: Love and hate and hate. 470 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: It was so much of everything, and. 471 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: It's hard to put in words that it's like, yeah, 472 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: we understand that when a game is growing, that there's 473 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: going to be some people who are going to be 474 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: let in. But I also feel like they misunderstand what 475 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: we're trying to say when we say like, new fans 476 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: need to understand the kind of community that they're coming into, 477 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think that that is understood because there's 478 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: this thing. First of all, let me back up a second. 479 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: I want people to understand definitions. And one thing I 480 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: hate is when folks be like, oh, y'all, old fans 481 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: are gatekeeping. Can you please understand what the word gatekeeping means. 482 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: Nobody is keeping you from watching the WNBA. Nobody's keeping 483 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: you from attending games, buying tickets, buying merch, nobody's gate 484 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: keeping anything. We're not disallowing you access. 485 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: To be a fan of the WNBA. So I need 486 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: y'all to stop the shit. 487 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Stop using words because you hear it and you think 488 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: it's popular that you can just throw it out there. 489 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: At your leisure, and yeah, don't know what it means. 490 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: Something, and you don't know what it means. 491 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: Gatekeeping actually means something, So we're not gatekeeping anything. 492 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: What we are saying is. 493 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: That You don't just walk into the sport brand new 494 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: and act like you know everything, because you don't. There 495 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: are a lot of people who put their blood, sweat 496 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and tears, including you, into helping to grow this game 497 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: to where it is now. It didn't just magically grow 498 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty four season. It's been a culmination 499 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: of things over the course of time. You got to 500 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: respect that history in order to appreciate what we're seeing now. 501 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: And I think that's what hurt me the most, that 502 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure hurt you. 503 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: All, is that there was a lack of respect and 504 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: a lack of acknowledgment for who put the hard work 505 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: in to get to where we are now. 506 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 5: Damn you said a lot that needed to be said. 507 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, ooh, let me just pick up where you left off. 508 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: You know, T as a pioneer of this game, the 509 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: first player design. I care deeply about the league, about 510 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 5: the game, about the players, and that's all of the players, 511 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 5: because to me, it's a sisterhood. 512 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: Current players, former players, it's a sisterhood. Right. There are so. 513 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 5: Many themes that happened this season where I was like, 514 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: you know what, let me step away because this shit 515 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 5: hurts and I'm not talking about people who were coming 516 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 5: for me. I'm talking about people who were coming for 517 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: current players. Yeah, because I did and I always will 518 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: stand up for those players when people are coming for 519 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: them in a way that has nothing to do with basketball. 520 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 5: First of all, I got called everything but a child 521 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 5: of God. But it didn't bother me because I do 522 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 5: know I. 523 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: Am a child to God. 524 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Okay, but I got. 525 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 5: Called everything but a child of God because I have 526 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 5: an opinion, an opinion And you know the thing that 527 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 5: I didn't underst and I still don't understand. You have 528 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 5: male analysts, former NBA players doing podcasts talking about the game. 529 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: Doing whatever. 530 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 5: They're allowed to say whatever they want, whenever they want, 531 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 5: however they want, and there's nothing right Like they can 532 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 5: sit here and say whatever it does they want to say. 533 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 3: They can. 534 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 5: They're allowed to have opinions about the game, about players, 535 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 5: and there's no hate, no nothing that comes back to them. 536 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: Right. 537 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: No, people tune in the next week to hear it. 538 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 5: Again, exactly. But let a former player or even some 539 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 5: of the current players say something or have an opinion, 540 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 5: and it's like, how dare you? 541 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: And I just wanted. 542 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 5: People to understand this, like it's my opinion, just like 543 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: everybody has their opinions on who the goat is. 544 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: If I'm not your go good, that's your opinion. 545 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: Yep. 546 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 5: But I didn't take the social media and cusha out 547 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 5: and call you out, your name and you know, all 548 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: of those things, which is what happened when I had 549 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 5: an opinion. 550 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: An opinion that other people also shared, right, because it wasn't. 551 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: Like you was the only one. 552 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: There's an opinion that so many people shared and it 553 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: wasn't and it wasn't an improbable opinion. 554 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: It was very valid. But it didn't matter what I said. 555 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 5: I tweeted something to Diamond to Shills after they played 556 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 5: Indiana Fever, and what I tweeted to her was like, 557 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 5: keep your head up, we got you, We're here for you. 558 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: But that had nothing to do with basketball. 559 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 5: That was when everyone was coming for her, saying I 560 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 5: hope your tumor comes back and. 561 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: You die next time. 562 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: Yep. 563 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: Like I don't know how other people feel about that. 564 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: That's not okay with me. 565 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 5: So I see that I'm going to address it. I'm 566 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 5: going to say something. But when I look at trying 567 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: to take all of that ugliness out of it, right, 568 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 5: and when I look at just. 569 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: The basketball, it was so good. 570 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: The basketball itself was so good, from the rookies that 571 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 5: came in to the second ear players to the vets, 572 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 5: like everybody balled out, everybody. 573 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: Showed up when the lights were on, they showed up. 574 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 5: And to me, I really wish we would have and 575 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 5: could have just focused on how good the game was 576 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 5: instead of all the negative energy that came with it. 577 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: One hundred percent agree. 578 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: I think for a long time we had tried to 579 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: figure out why there was a disconnect between women's college 580 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: basketball and the WNBA, and slowly but surely, over the 581 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: last few years, you'd begin to see Yukon fans turn 582 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: into more W fans because of all the Yukon players 583 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Really, when Asia came into the game, you 584 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: really saw an influx. Oh yeah, you know, college Chanians 585 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: become W fans because they followed Asia, and then they 586 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: followed Tiffany Mitchell, and then they followed you know, Alicia Grant, 587 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: and then here recently, obviously the most recent example is 588 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: Kaitlin Clark and all the IM fans that have now 589 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: you know, Notre Dame had an influx of people because 590 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: of Iarique and all, so like this year I think 591 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: was the year that we truly saw an influx of 592 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: college fans turn into WNDA fans, which kept the numbers high, 593 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: which kept the interest high. Absolutely love that. And I 594 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: think that anyone who would say that Kaitlin Clark didn't 595 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: play a role in that is high. 596 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: Because clearly she did. She absolutely played a role. 597 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: But I don't know anyone who said that right. 598 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: Me neither me neither. I don't know one who didn't 599 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: who said that. 600 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: And so I keep asking myself, right, like, where where 601 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: does this come from? And I tried to, like I 602 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: really tried to sit in like rationalize it right, And 603 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: believe me, I've come to the conclusion that there is 604 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: no rationalization. 605 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: Where did you come up? 606 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing, absolutely absolutely nothing. But in the beginning I 607 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: tried to put myself in. I said, you know what, 608 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm a college fan as it comes to D one, 609 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm a Michigan State girl. 610 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: You know I love aerial powers. That's my dog. Could 611 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: you know? We rolling Spartan high. 612 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: So here we go, like is it the fandom that 613 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: we have in college sports that it's like are we 614 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: bringing that level? Like I'm trying, I was trying to understand, 615 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: and nothing at all made sense, Like there's no reason, nothing, 616 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: no rhyme or. 617 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: Reason to it made sense. 618 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: And it just got to the point that the only 619 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 1: reason why people felt okay with bringing this ugliness and 620 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: this hate and this divisiveness to this league is because 621 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: we're women, and society just accepts every kind of shit 622 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: that you throw at women, and when you throw it 623 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: at Black women, it just doesn't matter. Let me, you 624 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: can look at what's going on culturally right now with 625 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: Sean Combs. Yeah, it was a woman, and no one 626 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: believed that she was getting beat up or no one 627 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: believed that she was and then you have to have 628 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: the video evidence, You have to have all of this 629 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: stuff to prove, to further prove and show, and even 630 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: then you get doubters, right, And that's what it is 631 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: with the WNBA. That's what it is with this league. 632 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: People can come in and say what they want to 633 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: say about folks. They can talk to how y'all, how 634 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: they want to talk to y'all. They could say what 635 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: they want to say about y'all to y'all because you 636 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: all are women, because we are all women, and no 637 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: one cares truly about our thoughts, our opinions, are our feelings, 638 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: because this is what people have done to women and 639 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: women's sports and women in any profession for centuries. 640 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: I don't care. 641 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: They would never do this to men, even in the 642 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: infancy stages of the NBA. 643 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: They would never bring this to men. 644 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: And that's really what it boils down to, I guess, 645 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: really what it boils down to women's sports. As much 646 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: as we're growing and as much as we're seeing the investment, 647 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: we are still not necessarily getting the respect that you 648 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: all deserve. 649 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: And that is why this door can be open. 650 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: That is such a great point, my goodness. But you 651 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: know the other. 652 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 5: Part to that two T is when it happens, we 653 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 5: don't say nothing. It's like we sit back and we 654 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 5: sit there like, oh shit, well, I know that's wrong, 655 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 5: but I can't say anything because if I say something, 656 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 5: this might happen, or that might happen, or I might 657 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 5: lose this, or I might lose that. And the men 658 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 5: on the other side are like, I dare you to 659 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: say something. Well, this is my opinion, this is how 660 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 5: I feel, this is what I'm gonna do. 661 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: What you're gonna do about it? 662 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: Yep? 663 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 5: But it's you knows. As women we're always looking to men. 664 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: To validate us. 665 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 5: We too, we look to men to tell us how 666 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 5: great we are, how beautiful we are, how good we are, 667 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: how whatever. But as women we also do the same 668 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 5: thing that that we talk about the men doing. 669 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: We tear each other down quicker than a man will. 670 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 3: Speak on it. Speak on it. 671 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 2: Because I see many women in my I wait for 672 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: what reason? 673 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 5: Because if you sit here and you're talking about, oh, 674 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 5: I want the league to grow. I want the league 675 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 5: to grow. I want to What can I do well? 676 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 5: Since you can stop tearing us down and go at 677 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 5: the ones who don't know shit about this game, don't 678 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 5: know shit about the players, and start showing some respect. Yeah, 679 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 5: because I listen, I'll sit here when I When I 680 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: don't want to deal with it, I don't respond, or 681 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 5: I just block you block block block block girl. And 682 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 5: then they get mad that I blocked them, like why 683 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 5: are you blocking me? Because I don't have to let 684 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 5: you sit here on my page and save ignorant shit 685 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 5: to me. 686 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 687 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: And I not only that, but it's the ones that 688 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: say stuff and then when you clap back, they're like, 689 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: but you're supposed to be professional, but you're supposed to be. 690 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: And I know we're gonna talk about this in more 691 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: detail on a later show. But I'm still a human 692 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: and I'm still I'm still that girl from the East 693 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: Side of Detroit. You come on my Twitter page talking shit, 694 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: you best believe I don't clap back, and I'm not 695 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: at all worried about whether or not I'm going to 696 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: lose my job or I'm going to lose an endorsement, 697 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: or I'm going to lose any girl. 698 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 5: When im good, I have time, I'm gonna let you 699 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 5: know I have time. I got time in some days 700 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what, I don't. 701 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 2: Have time and I don't even know you. But here's 702 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: the thing, Te. You listen. 703 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 5: If I don't like you, if I don't like what 704 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 5: you're doing, I don't like what you're posting. 705 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna follow you. 706 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna have my notifications turned on so that 707 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 5: every time TE posts something I can see what she doing. 708 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 5: I don't follow people, I don't listen to people. I 709 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 5: don't deal with people that I don't like. 710 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: Yep. 711 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 5: So if you don't like me, why are you here? 712 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 5: Why are you on my page? Why are you watching 713 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 5: everything I post? Why are you watching everything I do? 714 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: It is wild, it is wild. 715 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: It's just crazy, quite literally, it's quite literally wild. 716 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting. 717 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: I was looking at a poll because one thing that 718 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: people say about, you know, as we conclude here, just 719 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: kind of talking about this season. 720 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 3: Well, why don't you guys have more women as fans 721 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 3: and blah blahlah blah blah, And I'm. 722 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: Like, okay, there are about I believe it's fifty six 723 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: to forty four as it relates to sports fans than 724 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: the sports fan demographic, fifty six percent of sports fan 725 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: are men. So obviously, as we grow it can't be 726 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: just women. You can't just expect women to watch. Obviously 727 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: men have to watch too, obviously men. I mean that's 728 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: just that's just basic fucking math, Like you're going to 729 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: need so like I really wish people just quit me. 730 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,479 Speaker 3: And like, you know, you need to get more women 731 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 3: to watch it. 732 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, sure, we need to get more people of 733 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: everybody people, period, But basic math says it's just people 734 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: because men are bigger sports fans than women. 735 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: That's just what the study shows with the post shows, 736 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: So y'all sound stupid. 737 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: It's shit continuing to say this, but anyway, I bring 738 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: that up to say I bring that up to say 739 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: that it is interesting to me that as I look 740 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: at the growth of this sport and I look at 741 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: all the TV deals that are coming in and the 742 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: merchandise sales were through the roof. It was just announced 743 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: that the Finals had two point fifteen million viewers. That 744 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: just further lets me know that whether you hate it, 745 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: whether you want to talk about it, whether you want 746 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: to hate on us as you know, either a former 747 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: player or an analyst or whatever, at the end of 748 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: the day, we got your attention. You're watching, you're engaging, 749 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: you're talking, and the numbers are showing it improving it. 750 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: So you can continue to tweet what you're tweeting, you 751 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: can continue to say what you're saying. You can continue 752 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: to hate the way that you want to hate, or 753 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: you can just jump on board and love the product. 754 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 3: You can also jump on board and get other people 755 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 3: to watch the product. You can do it the right 756 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 3: way or the wrong way. 757 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 1: But either way, the number suggests that this game ain't 758 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: going nowhere. 759 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 5: It's just not We're not going nowhere, not Pereriod period. 760 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 3: Like we're not going nowhere. 761 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 5: And you know, to add to that, we're not going 762 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 5: anywhere because it's a great product. 763 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: Yes, they're not going anywhere. 764 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: The talent level is. 765 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 5: Crazy stupid, but you know what, the personalities that these 766 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 5: players have, they're fun to watch, they're fun to engage with. 767 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 5: When you really get to know them, you get to 768 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 5: know their personality and then to see what they do 769 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 5: on the court, like, these are some of the best 770 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 5: players in the world, the absolute best in the world, 771 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 5: and they deserve so much better than they were given 772 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 5: this year from fans because I feel like some of 773 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 5: it was like we couldn't really enjoy the product on 774 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: the floor because of all the ugliness that came along 775 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 5: with that. And I really hope that it's better next year. 776 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 5: I want to say this one thing, and I'm sure 777 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 5: you saw it. So Darius Rucker, did you see his 778 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 5: post He just posted a couple of days ago. He 779 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 5: basically said thank you to the WNBA and thank you 780 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 5: to the Indiana Fever. He said he and his girlfriend 781 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 5: attended almost I think he said every Indiana Fever game. 782 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 5: He was just talking about how great the talent was. 783 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 5: He came in to watch Aliyah because South Carolina and Caitlyn, 784 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 5: And I said, but when we got there, we got 785 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 5: to see Kelsey Mitchell and then he talked about all 786 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 5: the other players that he watched play. But I just 787 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 5: thought that tweet and that post, I was like, damn, 788 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 5: I wish all New fans felt this way. 789 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 3: But would you say that, I would say that. 790 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: I think the numbers show us that in a way 791 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: they kind of do, whether they want to admit it 792 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: or not. 793 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 3: I mean, how many people did you hear say, oh, well, 794 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 3: Indiana lost, we might as well pack it up. The 795 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 3: WNBA might as well pack it up. Nobody's gonna watch 796 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: no more or up. 797 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: And the numbers say otherwise. Viewership say folks watched. Viewership 798 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: say folks watched in abundance. Viewership says that people actually 799 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: enjoy the WNBA and enjoy watching the WNBA despite who 800 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 1: may be the most popular player at the time or whatever. 801 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 3: That might be. 802 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: And so I think people just need to admit it, like, 803 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: just admit that this is a good, prime thing that 804 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: you enjoy watching it, and not necessarily have to put 805 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: it all on one person, because the truth is is 806 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: just that maybe Caitlyn is what brought you to the W. 807 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: Maybe Angel is what brought you to the W. Maybe 808 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: you know whatever it is that brought you to the W. 809 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: That's great that that's what brought you here, but there 810 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 1: are so many other things that make you stay. And 811 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: I love that about the talented women in this league. 812 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: And so Darius just really echoed. He did a lot 813 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: of people feel maybe they just don't want to say it. 814 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: He did point one five million people watch. 815 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 5: Well and listen in case people didn't see it or 816 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 5: don't have Twitter. I want to read it real fast 817 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 5: because I think it's it's worth acknowledging and recognizing. Yes, 818 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 5: so he said, my girlfriend and I watched every Fever 819 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 5: game and got to see how truly great the basketball 820 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 5: play in your league really is. 821 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: I want to thank ab. 822 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 5: Aliah Boston, my fellow game cock CC one of the 823 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 5: greatest I've ever seen. That's Caitlin Clark, Kels, Kelsey, Mitchell Buckets, 824 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 5: Melissa Smith, Holly, Lexi Hall, d d Damirs Dantis. I 825 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 5: love the nickname and all the other great players and 826 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 5: coaches in Indiana for a fun, great season. 827 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: Getting to watch the enemy. 828 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 5: I only call her that because she played like Jordan 829 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 5: against my Fever talking about Aurique and all the other 830 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 5: great players play with That amount of passionate skill has 831 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 5: me hooked. He continued to say, we got to go 832 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 5: and see the game against the Goat Asia Wilson, and 833 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 5: the atmosphere in that building was amazing. What an incredible 834 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 5: place to watch a game. And now watching the finals 835 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 5: with the microwave, that's Sabrina Stewie and Zeppelin, that's jj 836 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 5: go five games in overtime against the Assassin, Courtney Williams 837 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 5: and feezy Nefisa was icing on the cake. Just want 838 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 5: to thank all of you for being great. Now I 839 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 5: get to watch my game COCOMs Basketball and then go 840 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 5: right into the next season. 841 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: Man and my so in like I read that, and 842 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 2: I will like I gotta repost it because here's the thing. 843 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 5: You you can be a fan of one team or 844 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 5: a fan of one players, but still appreciate the rest 845 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 5: of the talent and the league yep, without being so 846 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 5: ugly and mean and disrespectful. Like it's a great product. 847 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 5: It's a great product across the board. So Darius, thank 848 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 5: you for being a fan, for being in and we 849 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 5: expect to have you on levels to this one day. 850 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: So absolutely that is a great way to close it out. 851 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 1: We look forward to the twenty twenty five season women's 852 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: college basketball that's coming up, starting very soon, so we 853 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: get to see Juju and Paige Becker's and you know, 854 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: Hannah Hadogo Raven Johnson's gonna cut up as South Carolina. 855 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: Malaysia for Wiley Malaysia. 856 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 857 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: Yes, and we hope she feels better. We know she 858 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: got hurt a couple of games ago, but hopefully she's good. 859 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: It's just so much talent in women's basketball right now. 860 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: This college season is gonna be crazy. The drafts in 861 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, it is gonna be crazy. 862 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 3: New format next year for the WNBA. The finals is 863 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 3: going seven games. The first round. 864 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: Will be one one one, so everybody gets a home game. Man, 865 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be so much fun. There will be 866 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: levels to the WNBA and women's basketball next season, and 867 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna be right there for it, every piece of it, 868 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: all right, y'all. 869 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 3: So that is what's gonna do it for us here. 870 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: I had levels to this, but before we go, of course, Cheryl, 871 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: you have got to help us level up for the 872 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: next week. 873 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 3: What you got for us today, this. 874 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 5: One is short and sweet, but I don't know if 875 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 5: anyone else is feeling this. I found this and I 876 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 5: was like, you know what this is for me, and 877 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 5: I'm just giving you some context so. 878 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: Then when I read it, you'll be like, Okay, maybe hopefully. 879 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 2: I think in life, we all go through things, right. 880 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 5: And sometimes we get to a point to where we 881 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 5: wonder like is it time to make a change, and 882 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 5: we get afraid to. 883 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 2: Like just step out and do it. 884 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 5: It's kind of sort of where I am right now 885 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 5: with some stuff I'm going through. 886 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 2: So I found this and this is what it says. 887 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 5: It says in any given moment, we have two options 888 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 5: to step forward into growth or step back into safety. 889 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: M and that plays right into what we discussed today, 890 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: growth of the league, growth of even just growth of self. 891 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 3: Just that's a whole other topic right there, just what 892 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 3: it is. 893 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 5: But that's when I am right now, Like I'm comfortable, right, 894 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 5: I know, I'm safe with where I am and what 895 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 5: I'm doing, but there are some other things I want 896 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 5: to do, but I'm a little nervous to just to 897 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 5: step out in it and grow. 898 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 899 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some things that I've done just this 900 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: year that I was like, holy shit, but you gotta 901 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: be favor, be comfortable. 902 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 3: Or grow. 903 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 2: And I always want to know, but always want. 904 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 1: To grow, want to grow, easy, love it, Love it 905 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: well fans. Thank you guys so much for listening to 906 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: levels to this. We will be back next week with 907 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: more next level conversation about the real shit women go through. Right, 908 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: but this just is not our show. It's our show, 909 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: so we want to hear from you. Leave us a 910 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,479 Speaker 1: review in Apple Podcasts and tell us what you thought 911 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: of this we show or what you may want us 912 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: to talk about next. 913 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 3: You can also follow us 914 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: On Instagram, at els and t pod, but until then, 915 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: keep your mentals ground level and we'll be back next 916 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: week