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Speaker 1: We're talking Colts and recapping the action.

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Speaker 4: Good forest fucker picks up a live football and races

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Speaker 1: Score picked off by the Colts.

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Speaker 2: From your sideline, Kenny Moore racing for the inZone ten

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Speaker 1: Indeed, why now Here's the voice of the Colts. Matt

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Speaker 1: Taylor from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome, Good evening everybody. This is Colts Roundtable

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Speaker 2: Live tonight on ninety three five and one oh seven

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Speaker 2: dot com. I'm Matt Taylor. Welcome inside the Indiana Union

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Speaker 2: Construction Industry Radio Studio. Tonight, Colts Roundtable Live is with

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Speaker 2: you until seven o'clock and unfortunately, there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: clean up and unpack after yesterday's forty five to thirty

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Speaker 2: three loss to the Giants that officially eliminates the Colts

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Speaker 2: from playoff contention in twenty twenty four. A busy show,

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Speaker 2: starting with our weekly chat coming up in just a

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Speaker 2: few moments with Colts head coach Shane Steichen, and then

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Speaker 2: starting in segment two, analyst Rick Van Turi and Joe

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Speaker 2: Writs will join me on the program and we'll go

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Speaker 2: over the game film from yesterday's loss against the Giants

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Speaker 2: and also discuss where the Colts go from here with

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Speaker 2: one game to play next Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: and possibly look at what the twenty twenty five offseason

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Speaker 2: looks like for the Colts. But the Colts offense scored

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Speaker 2: thirty three on Sunday, but the defense gave up forty

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Speaker 2: five to the Giants, who hadn't top thirty all season.

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Speaker 2: So let's quickly recap the game action on the game

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Speaker 2: rewind well, the Colts are playing for their playoff lives

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. While the Giants came in holding the number

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Speaker 2: one overall pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,

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Speaker 2: The Colts led three to nothing in the first quarter,

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Speaker 2: but after that it was all downhill. In the first

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Speaker 2: half and halftime, the Giants led twenty one to thirteen,

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Speaker 2: and backup quarterback Drew Locke was seven for eight for

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty three yards, three touchdowns and a

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Speaker 2: passer rating of one fifty eight point three, and they

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Speaker 2: Rookie Melik neighbors Darius Slayton, and wan Dell Robinson all

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Speaker 2: and were only averaging fourteen on the season. The Colts

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Speaker 2: to make it a twenty eight to thirteen game, and

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Speaker 2: big plays like that killed the Colts all afternoon long.

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Speaker 2: All told, the Giants put together six plays of thirty

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Speaker 2: the game. New York had just nine such plays in

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Speaker 2: its previous fifteen contests. Rookie wide out Eleak Neighbors put

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Speaker 2: eighty eight to nineteen ninety four. All right, again, a

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Speaker 2: we'll take some of the better ones. As a head coach,

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Speaker 2: I know, hugely disappointing game in New York. What was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it goes back to the big plays.

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Speaker 5: We gave up a lot of big plays defensively, turnovers

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Speaker 5: the kickoff return to start the third quarter. I was huge,

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Speaker 5: but I thought our guys battled back, but it just

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Speaker 2: How much did it matter? I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: did it matter that the Giants were able to hang

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Speaker 2: Obviously the Giants were having a down season, but how

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Speaker 2: much do you think that played into it in terms

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Speaker 5: the National Football League, and bottom line is we got

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Speaker 5: to show up and play every game. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 5: who you're playing, where you're playing. You got to put

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Speaker 2: So the Giants put up three eighty nine of offense,

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Speaker 2: How frustrating is it to be, you know, sixteen games

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's as frustrating and disappointed as it gets, you know,

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Speaker 2: All right, So the Giants put up a season high

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Speaker 5: I think it was the big place, you know, you

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Speaker 5: They had some third down conversions and they were they

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Speaker 2: Going off the field a little bit, Anthony Richardson, how

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Speaker 2: You know, he had those those backstrains all last week.

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Speaker 2: That's Shane Steichen with US Tonight, Joe Flacco came in

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Speaker 2: and he played really well, over three hundred yards passing

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Speaker 5: You get explosive plays offensively, you know, running and throwing

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Speaker 5: it was a good showing, you know, about our offense,

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Speaker 2: All right, last couple of questions for me, coach, And

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Speaker 2: I know you talked about this after the game, and

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Speaker 2: you've had twenty four hours or thereabout to think about it.

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Speaker 2: Even further, playoffs aren't on the table any longer. When

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Speaker 5: To one hundred percent, it's disappointing, you know. Obviously the

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Speaker 5: two weeks left and you still got a shot at it,

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Speaker 5: out of it, it's disappointing. But at the end of

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Speaker 5: as much as you know everyone does into it, it's tough.

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Speaker 5: But you know, we got one week left and we

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well said. All right, let's take a few questions

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Speaker 2: for head coach Shane Stike and night get those in

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Speaker 2: with the hashtag Colts Roundtable. Let's go to Mark's question.

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Speaker 2: He's asking, Hey, coach, what can we do to improve

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Speaker 2: our pass rush for next season after we dropped from

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Speaker 2: fifty one sacks to thirty four this season?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you go back and you look at

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Speaker 5: we can get maybe better matchups throughout you know, game

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Speaker 5: plans and all those different things. So we'll go back

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Speaker 5: and we'll look at that for next year.

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Speaker 2: All right, this is coming from Chad. He's asking, coach,

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Speaker 2: why does Ady Mitchell seemingly have such a hard time

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Speaker 2: making catches over the middle of the field.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, obviously, like you said, you know,

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Speaker 2: All right, Miles is up next, coach, how did we

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Speaker 4: of pursuit angles and tackles, you know, And then I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, one of the things that have troubled me

435
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Speaker 4: more than anything, you know, is the lack of a

436
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Speaker 4: specific game plan that you can see that takes away

437
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Speaker 4: a top player and number two just stop an quarterback.

438
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Speaker 4: From Stafford to Locke, they all you make kings out

439
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Speaker 4: of them, and we are the king maters. And what

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Speaker 4: yesterday was to me is the ultimate cumulative effect of

441
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Speaker 4: the years of this poor planning. There's some talent issues

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Speaker 4: we'll get into. No real game plans. You had to

443
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Speaker 4: stop one guy, and we talked about that a million times.

444
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Speaker 4: Like Joe said, neighbors came in ninety seven, nine to

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Speaker 4: sixty eight. I said it last week. The only ambient

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Speaker 4: player on this team. He goes seven for one to

447
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Speaker 4: seventy one, you know, like he was just jofa beats

448
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Speaker 4: on the corner. We played a third tier quarterback. We

449
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Speaker 4: let him go seventy four percent. You know, he had

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Speaker 4: ninety seven QBR and a one to fifty five quarterback rating.

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Speaker 4: Give up thirty eight points. And I think you pointed

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Speaker 4: this out, Matt. I'm not sure, but I'm going to

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Speaker 4: point it out again. In the last five and one

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Speaker 4: half quarters, the coach defense has given up sixty one points.

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Speaker 4: You know. And this isn't a one off because you know,

456
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Speaker 4: after sixteen games, you know this, this is the tale

457
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Speaker 4: of the tape. The Colts are twenty on defense, twenty

458
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Speaker 4: seventh in points after last year twenty eighth. They're twenty

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Speaker 4: ninth in total. And that's the good news. Okay, they're

460
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Speaker 4: thirty first on third down, their thirty second and past

461
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Speaker 4: percentage against. That's why these quarterbacks come in and kill you,

462
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Speaker 4: and then their thirty second they're thirty second on fourth down.

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Speaker 4: You know, I will say this, and I've said it

464
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Speaker 4: for a long time, and I and yesterday again was

465
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Speaker 4: the culmination. Yesterday to me, you know, that might have

466
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Speaker 4: been the worst combination strategic and fundamentally played defensive game

467
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Speaker 4: that I've seen in decades. And it really, after forty

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Speaker 4: five games, it simply cannot continue. Massive changes are now necessary.

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Speaker 4: And as I said to you guys off air, if

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Speaker 4: there's a silver lining it now is that the nation

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Speaker 4: knows what I've known for three years and it will

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Speaker 4: finally come to a head. I believe. I don't think

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Speaker 4: there's any question about it. One of my friends called

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Speaker 4: me last night and he used a little pun. He said,

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Speaker 4: the cos the Colts are indefensible. I think that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not good, no question about that. Certainly a lot

477
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Speaker 2: more bad than good on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about the tail of the tape coming

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Speaker 2: to end. That's the tale to tape there again some

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Speaker 2: their big takeaways from rewatching the game film back again today.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in segment three, we're gonna move on to

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Speaker 2: a segment called What's Salvagable because yesterday's game in week seventeen,

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Speaker 2: it felt like a car crash fellas, So let's pick

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Speaker 2: partner of the Indianapolis Colts. Welcome back to the show again.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor, join again by Rick Vinturi and Joe Wrights,

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Speaker 2: and let's talk about what's salvagable. That's the theme of

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Speaker 2: this segment now, guys. The Colts playoff hopes came to

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Speaker 2: an end with that loss to the Giants. The Colts

518
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Speaker 2: give up forty five points in the process. It just

519
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: felt like the Colts were in a car crash after

520
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Speaker 2: the game, and it feels like there's parts of the

521
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Speaker 2: metaphorical car all over the place after this crash. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the parts of the team that are salvageable

523
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Speaker 2: after the Colts missed the postseason for the fourth straight year. Joe,

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to toss the ball to you. Which

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Speaker 2: parts of the offense are salvagable after sixteen games. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can go wherever you want, but I'm just pointing out,

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Speaker 2: you know, is an Anthony Richard Arson who's completing only

528
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Speaker 2: forty seven percent of his passes. He's dealt with four

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Speaker 2: different injuries in his brief two year career. Jonathan Taylor's

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Speaker 2: hit at least eleven hundred yards and eight touchdowns in

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Speaker 2: three of his five years. Alec Pearce is having a

532
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Speaker 2: really good season. He's got a career high seven sixty

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Speaker 2: seven in three games over one hundred yards this season,

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Speaker 2: including a big game yesterday. The offensive line has played

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Speaker 2: well for the most part this season, anchored by Quentin Nelson.

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Speaker 2: Pick out any of those, Joe, and go wherever else

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Speaker 2: you want. What else is salvageable going into the offseason,

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Speaker 2: I should say by this offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean big picture, right, you look ahead

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Speaker 3: to next year because the Colts got, you know, nothing

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Speaker 3: to play for outside of Pride on Sunday. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I think you start with the offensive line. I think

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Speaker 3: Ryman and Nelson, you know, I think Gonzalvez, you know,

544
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Speaker 3: can be a long term right tackle in the league.

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Speaker 3: And then you got question marks at center and right guard,

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Speaker 3: and you know for center, and you know Ryan Kelly,

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Speaker 3: you know, he was kind of emotional talking after the

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Speaker 3: game yesterday, realizing this may be his last game in

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Speaker 3: a Colts uniform, you know, coming up on Sunday, and

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Speaker 3: he's been the anchor of that line. And you know,

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Speaker 3: a right guard, I mean, Will Fryes was having a

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Speaker 3: heck of a season, really good young player. But you know,

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Speaker 3: with that significant injury, you know, kind of some unknowns there.

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Speaker 3: But I think for the Colts, when you look back

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Speaker 3: at this season, Jonathan Taylor obviously has played really well.

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Speaker 3: I think, especially the last three games, has showed his

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Speaker 3: explosion back and kind of returned to some of that

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Speaker 3: you know, twenty twenty twenty twenty two form. I think

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Speaker 3: Alec Pierce has had significant improvement. I mean across the

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Speaker 3: NFL I don't know that a receiver has improved as

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Speaker 3: much as Pierce. Now the caveat a little bit to that,

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Speaker 3: as most of his production has come with Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 3: and I think then.

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Speaker 2: That leads you to Richardson, right, And at the end

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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 3: Day, it all comes down to ar five and is

567
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Speaker 3: he the franchise quarterback for the Colts? And Matt I

568
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Speaker 3: know he's been in the league two years, but he's

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Speaker 3: got fifteen starts and so in essence, he's really played

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Speaker 3: one rookie season and he obviously is an unbelievable athlete.

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Speaker 3: But I do think that this season solidify the question

572
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Speaker 3: marks on accuracy with being a fifty percent career passer.

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Speaker 3: Is that accurate enough to win in the NFL? No,

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Speaker 3: But it's can he improve enough in the off season

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Speaker 3: and moving forward through twenty twenty five to do it?

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Speaker 3: And then I think there's obviously just overall leadership concerns,

577
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Speaker 3: you know, with everything that went on, and you know,

578
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Speaker 3: his benching and it led it was things on the

579
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Speaker 3: field and off the field, and then you have this

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Speaker 3: week when he you know, doesn't practice at all and

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Speaker 3: it's thorness but backspasms and you know, there's just there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of question marks there, and when you know,

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Speaker 3: the media is talking about things and speculating and it's

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Speaker 3: just not you just don't have a clear message and

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Speaker 3: really kind of that authoritative leadership from your quarterback, which

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Speaker 3: you know, that's what you got to have in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: And again, he's never going to be Drew Brees in

588
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Speaker 3: terms of his accuracy, but can he improve enough throwing

589
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Speaker 3: the ball on the you know, intermediate throws right five

590
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Speaker 3: to fifteen to twenty yards, the out routes, the digs

591
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Speaker 3: across the middle that you have to be a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think this this offseason for him

593
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Speaker 3: will be just so so so important. So that's kind

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Speaker 3: of a high level, thirty thousand foot view, just you know,

595
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Speaker 3: on my views on the Colts offense, you know, not

596
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Speaker 3: only Sunday, but moving forward into next year.

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Speaker 2: No, that's and you're exactly right, and Rick, if you

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Speaker 2: want to pick up there in terms of Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 2: he's exactly right. If he starts on Sunday against the Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: it's still going to be only sixteen career starts and

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Speaker 2: it's still going to be less than one full season

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Speaker 2: in his first two in terms of starting in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and there's still a lot of unknowns about Anthony Richardson

604
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Speaker 2: and this offense going into twenty twenty five. Rick, So,

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Speaker 2: for you, what's salvagable about that side of the ball

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Speaker 2: after sixteen games.

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Speaker 4: Here, Well, I kind of look at it as you know,

608
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Speaker 4: keepers not keepers and maybes. Yeah, and you know, Taylor,

609
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Speaker 4: there's no question that Taylor's a keeper. Taylor is still

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Speaker 4: a premier runner. You know, the way I look at

611
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Speaker 4: Taylor this year is when he has the ball in

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Speaker 4: his hand, he's just he's possessed. I mean, he is

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Speaker 4: just incredible. And but for some reason, for a really

614
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Speaker 4: smart kid like he is, he has some concentration lapses

615
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Speaker 4: and they almost all come on the passing game, either

616
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Speaker 4: a drop ball or a ball that hit him the

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Speaker 4: other day that he wasn't looking. I mean, the negative

618
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Speaker 4: stuff seems to happen on concentration lags. But I mean,

619
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Speaker 4: he's going to give you that thousand yards and even

620
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Speaker 4: more as we go on and those two guys play together. Pierce,

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Speaker 4: you know, he's now the premier deep ball receiver in

622
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Speaker 4: the league statistically twenty one plus. You know, he is

623
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Speaker 4: absolutely number one. I've never seen a guy improve as

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Speaker 4: much from one year to the next. He is becoming

625
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Speaker 4: a complete package, not just a one trick pony. Fifty

626
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Speaker 4: to fifty balls are now eighty twenty balls to him.

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Speaker 4: But he's even becoming a better route runner to the inside.

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Speaker 4: Those two guys definite keepers. Richardson, We don't know. You

629
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Speaker 4: guys have chronicled it. You know, he does two things

630
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Speaker 4: great and I don't know that that won't be his career,

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Speaker 4: So we just don't know. I mean, he's a beast

632
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Speaker 4: running it. He's running back too. He's not really a

633
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Speaker 4: quarterback in that sense. He's a running back running back

634
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Speaker 4: to five point seven. You know, he's a whole different entity.

635
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Speaker 4: And he throws a really good deep ball. You know,

636
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Speaker 4: he's you know, we're number five in the league in

637
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Speaker 4: terms of yards you know, per catch. So it's there.

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Speaker 4: But what he again, and I've likened it to an

639
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Speaker 4: NBA player. You know, he's either a slam dunk player

640
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Speaker 4: or he's a three point shooter, and he has no

641
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Speaker 4: mid range games. So the question is, you know, can

642
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Speaker 4: they bring him along, can he personally improve because if

643
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Speaker 4: he doesn't, then you're almost looking at a wildcat quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You're not really looking at a championship quarterback. And so

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Speaker 4: I think the jury is out. I really don't know

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Speaker 4: in that sense. And then our offensive line, I think,

647
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Speaker 4: you know, when they started out and they were healthy,

648
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Speaker 4: I thought it was an elite, you know, top five

649
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Speaker 4: group without question, But now I think there's a lot

650
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Speaker 4: of question marks. You know, what happens with Kelly Ken

651
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Speaker 4: Bordalini do it for you know, full time? You know,

652
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 4: you know Froze, that was really difficult. They don't have

653
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Speaker 4: a guy really that can replace him, as good as

654
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Speaker 4: he is. And Braden Smith, now he's had some issues,

655
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Speaker 4: but he really struggled this year. He struggled talent wise,

656
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Speaker 4: and so you know, I do I do think Gonzalvez

657
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: gave us some you know, pretty good synaps, but you know,

658
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Speaker 4: I think he has issues on past protection. That whole

659
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Speaker 4: right side does. So you know, I think that's gone

660
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Speaker 4: from a you know, potential elk to maybe, you know,

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Speaker 4: just based on what's happened on that right side.

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Speaker 2: That's Rick Venturi. Joe Wrights is here as well. I'm

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor. This is Colts Round Table Live tonight. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining in here on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 2: oh seven five The Fan with you until seven o'clock tonight.

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Speaker 2: This segment is all about what's salvagable for the Colts

667
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Speaker 2: after missing out on the playoffs for the fourth straight year.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about offense. Rick, I know you got a

669
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Speaker 2: lot of thoughts on defense, and I'm just gonna throw

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Speaker 2: out some of the parts that might be salvagable after

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Speaker 2: sixteen games. You've got Zaire Franklin. He leads the NFI

672
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: tackles with one sixty five. Grover Stewart and de Forrest

673
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Speaker 2: Buckner are still under contract for next year. I think

674
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Speaker 2: they're still one of the best defensive tackle duos in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. You've got Jalen Jones. He's had a nice

676
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Speaker 2: solid second season. But in the grand scheme of things,

677
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Speaker 2: as you know, I mean, the Giants put up forty five.

678
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Speaker 2: That point total was the most for New York since

679
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Speaker 2: putting up forty nine in a game and twenty fifteen

680
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Speaker 2: just bad film, as we chronicled in the first segment.

681
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Speaker 2: So which parts of the defense can the Colts salvage

682
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Speaker 2: and save for next season after they gave up that

683
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Speaker 2: big game to the Giants and some other big games

684
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Speaker 2: sprinkled in throughout the course of the season.

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Speaker 4: And this is actually much more difficult for me, believe

686
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Speaker 4: it or not, even though it really is my expertise.

687
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Speaker 4: It's very difficult. First of all, it's very hard to

688
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: totally evaluate our players because schematically, they're never put in

689
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: a position of advantage. They just go out and they

690
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: play the game, and they're never in a position of advantage.

691
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: There's always a lot of ball in hand plays, a

692
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: lot of space plays, so it's very, very difficult. There's

693
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Speaker 4: no variation, you know, no creativity. It's hard to tell

694
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Speaker 4: necessarily how good or how bad you are. I would

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Speaker 4: say at the top of the list, and you hit it.

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Speaker 4: You know, Stuart and Buckner, those two guys are really

697
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Speaker 4: premier players as a twosome. Buckner is still a game

698
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Speaker 4: affecting three and Stuart is a game affecting nose tackle,

699
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: no question, other than third down. You know, those two guys,

700
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Speaker 4: when they're together, it's hard to do much against us.

701
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Speaker 4: The minute one of them leaves the game, God help us.

702
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: When two leads the game, there's absolutely nothing behind them,

703
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: so that has to be addressed. But that's those two

704
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: guys definitely keeper. You build around them, you know. I

705
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: think Pay and Dioh and lat too. I think they're

706
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Speaker 4: ser and you've got to be critical here. You can't.

707
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: You can like a guy and they can have good statistics,

708
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: but you got to say, are they statistics just because

709
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: they're playing? Like Ron Myer used to say, well, he's

710
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: the leading tackler, but somebody has to be, you know.

711
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Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to be careful with all that.

712
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Speaker 4: I don't see those guys really affecting the game. I

713
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Speaker 4: don't see those guys being different difference makers. And you're

714
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Speaker 4: not gonna You're not gonna have a team full of

715
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Speaker 4: difference makers, and so they're they're solid core guys. I'm

716
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Speaker 4: a I'm a little bit ambivalent about the linebackers. I

717
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 4: think Franklin is really tough and smart, and he's serviceable

718
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Speaker 4: and he's productive on our team. I think Hey and

719
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Speaker 4: Speed really struggle in space. I mean the amount of

720
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Speaker 4: mistackles those two guys have. They have a lot of tackles,

721
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Speaker 4: but they have a ton of mistackles. They very they

722
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Speaker 4: never play under control, which is a fundamental issue. Uh.

723
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Speaker 4: The guy that I really like coming up, but I

724
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: think he'll pass them all. As Carlis, I think he's

725
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 4: the guy once he gets the experience, because he has

726
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: the talent to play in space and to tackle and

727
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 4: to do those type of things. I think the two

728
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: guys did have been pleasant surprises. I think Cross has

729
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: been terrific. I think he's a real keeper, you know.

730
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Speaker 4: I think he now has emerged from a guy that

731
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: they were ready to run out of town to one

732
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Speaker 4: of our very very best players. And where his upside

733
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Speaker 4: is there? You know, Blackman has gone the other way.

734
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Speaker 4: He's had a terrible season, just a terrible season. He

735
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 4: can't tackle me right now, you know. I think More

736
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: has been solid is long, although he had maybe the

737
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Speaker 4: worst game of his career Sunday, But overall he's been

738
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Speaker 4: a good slot corner if you say slot corner, and

739
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Speaker 4: the guy you know that I think has outplayed his

740
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 4: expectations has been Jones. I think you hit that. Do

741
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Speaker 4: I think he's great or shut down? Do I think

742
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: he's a one corner or no? I don't. But you know,

743
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 4: I think if you play him correctly and you use

744
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: his length, and you get a lot more press into

745
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: your defense, you know, and when he's playing against the

746
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: top guy. You know, I don't care if it's certain.

747
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: There's times that you got to help. There's times that

748
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: you got to double that we just don't do. But

749
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: you know, I think again he's really I'll played his expectations.

750
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: So that's kind of the group. I think the top

751
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 4: game changers obviously are those guys inside Buckner and Stewart, Right,

752
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: you know, the most improved is cross In Jones. He's

753
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: the guy that you want to stay with for a while, Joe.

754
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: Any thoughts there in terms of piggybacking off of what

755
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: Rick did a nice job of chronicling, and in terms

756
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: of the defense, any any parts of that defense that

757
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: you can really build around and salvage going into twenty

758
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: twenty five a very important offseason for the Colts on defense.

759
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. And I think the only thing I

760
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: would add. Coach at such a great job breaking it

761
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: down is really the pass rush. And to his point,

762
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: you know, guys on the edge that really scary you.

763
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 3: You know, I think we have a lot of good guys,

764
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: but not necessarily elite. And I think you know, you

765
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: hope that law too evolves into that. Right, you always

766
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: make your biggest jump from your first year to your

767
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: second year. And then don't forget about Samson Ebucom, right,

768
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: he goes down early in camp, and you know, he's

769
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Speaker 3: another guy that I thought outperformed last year what I

770
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 3: thought he would be and so him recovering from injury,

771
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: you know, being able to play. You know, I think

772
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: you hope that those two guys lat to an ebucom

773
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: can boost your pass rush outside on the edge because

774
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 3: we obviously, you know, have it solidified with Buckner and

775
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Speaker 3: Grover in the middle.

776
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, no doubt about that. All right, that's

777
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Speaker 2: what's salvagable, a look at some of the areas the

778
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: Colts can possibly keep and build around for next season

779
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Speaker 2: Welcome back again, Colts Roundtable Live Tonight ninety three to

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Speaker 2: Good to be back with you. We have a few

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Speaker 2: minutes left on the show tonight with you until seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Rick Venturi and Joe Wrights are with me as well,

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Speaker 2: closing out the show. Here. It's time now for the

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Speaker 2: Colts round Table And obviously a lot of people have

803
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Speaker 2: questions and thoughts given the current state of the Colts here,

804
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: so let's go to the best ones. Matthew is asking, hey, fella,

805
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 2: we seem to never win big important games that impact

806
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: our playoff stock. Joe, is that a cultural problem and

807
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Speaker 2: how do we fix that?

808
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question, Matthew. I'm gonna approach it

809
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: from the player perspective, and I just think, you know,

810
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: I was lucky to be kind of on the tail

811
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: end of this franchise. Is you know, period of greatness

812
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: right where the standard was a super high bar and

813
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: you won twelve thirteen games every year, and that was

814
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: driven within the locker room. That was driven by the

815
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: player leadership in the locker room, obviously when you have

816
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fameer Manning and so many other guys playing,

817
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: and then into kind of the Andrew Luck era. But

818
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: you know, the standard is the standard. And I think

819
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: you talk about as a player and this stuff isn't acceptable,

820
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: and you hear stuff like that coming out. But the

821
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: reality is, for the last four years, this is who

822
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 3: the Colts are. And you've missed the playoffs four years

823
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: in a row, you haven't won the division in a decade,

824
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: and every other team's won it at least twice, right,

825
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: including people are you know, trashing the text or the

826
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Speaker 3: Titans and the Jaguars and how bad they are. They

827
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Speaker 3: both won the division twice since the Colts happen.

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Speaker 2: So I think.

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Speaker 3: Culture is thrown around all the time. Everybody talks about culture, culture, culture,

830
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: but it's really how you operate on a day to

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Speaker 3: day basis and what's the standard and what's acceptable. And

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Speaker 3: you know, you can say out loud that this is

833
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: not acceptable and this isn't up to our standard. But

834
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Speaker 3: when you've been doing the same thing for four years,

835
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: it's like Bill Parcel.

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Speaker 2: Said, right, you are what your record says you are.

837
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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, unfortunately the Colts are, you know,

838
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 3: what their record's been, you know, over the last four years.

839
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Speaker 3: So I think you know, stuff has to change. But

840
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: it's not a quick fix, right. It starts with, you know,

841
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: in my opinion, the player led leadership within that locker

842
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: room and fifty three guys and having key leaders that

843
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: basically draw a line in the sand and say this

844
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Speaker 3: is not acceptable any meanmore, and we're changing it. And

845
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Speaker 3: again that's simple to say, Matt and coach knows this.

846
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: It's a lot harder to do. But in my opinion,

847
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: nothing's going to change, you know, until that happens.

848
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: No doubt. A lot to unpack there, for sure. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's fit in one more if we can go quickly here.

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Speaker 2: This is from Jonas. We kind of talked about this

851
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Speaker 2: a little bit briefly, but what is it about our

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Speaker 2: defensive scheme that allows so many underwhelming quarterbacks to find

853
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: their rhythm like Drew Locke did yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Rick VONTERI, well, I think it's a combination of two things,

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Speaker 4: you know, and you know, I was asked to, you know, one,

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Speaker 4: why do quarterbacks have good days against us? And why

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Speaker 4: do we never stop top players? And those probably are

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Speaker 4: my two pet peeves about this system. One on the

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks is because we're a very simple coverage team. We

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Speaker 4: don't play aggressively, we don't play much mandamand we don't

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Speaker 4: play any matchup zone. So we're always in area zone,

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Speaker 4: whether it's three, whether it's two and so, and we

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Speaker 4: play it all day long. And that's why you see

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Speaker 4: so many points in the fourth quarter, because not only

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Speaker 4: do they practice against it all day, by the time

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter rolls around, they've seen exactly the same

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Speaker 4: thing in there in rhythm. And so you know, that's

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Speaker 4: why our percentages we're number thirty two again in past

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Speaker 4: and it makes it so easy whether you're Matt Stafford

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Speaker 4: or whether you're Drew Locke. And then the second part

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Speaker 4: of that is We absolutely do nothing. We just line up.

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Speaker 4: You can take any tape from three years ago and

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Speaker 4: you look at it and it looks exactly like we're

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Speaker 4: playing today. It doesn't matter if we're playing Nikua Collins,

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Speaker 4: you know, whether we're playing this kid last week, you know.

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Speaker 2: Justin Jeffers, whether it's neighbors, it.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't make any difference. We don't make any game plan

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Speaker 4: adjustments to those guys, and so we make kings out

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Speaker 4: of a quarterback. I mean, when we had to stop

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00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: the running Green Bay, they didn't even have a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: They got two fifty, you know, you know, to Jacob's.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's just so sad to watch. It's

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Speaker 4: very hard to watch in my world.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's the mailbag segment tonight with all the

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Speaker 2: we had time for more. But we're gonna do this

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Speaker 2: out the show when we come back. The Colts are

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Speaker 2: seven and nine, one game left and the Jags are

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Speaker 2: up next. Both teams are assured of losing seasons. In fact,

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Speaker 2: three of the four teams in the AFC South will

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Speaker 2: post seasons under five hundred this year. So we'll close

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Speaker 2: out the Giants conversation and also talk about week seventeen

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Speaker 2: and Rick Van Turrey. I'm Matt Taylor as we wrap

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Speaker 2: up here with the closing arguments. Joe, I want to

917
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Speaker 2: start with you because you were a first class player

918
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Speaker 2: on and off the field. So with that of mind,

919
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Speaker 2: tell me how disappointed are you that the Colts are

920
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: eliminated from the playoffs and what do you want to

921
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Speaker 2: see from the leaders on this team. You've got one

922
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Speaker 2: game to play and they're hearing it all from every

923
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Speaker 2: angle last night and today about the disappointment of the season.

924
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: Tell me, as a former player, how you deal with

925
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Speaker 2: all of that negativity right now and how you handle

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Speaker 2: your business with one game to play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a tough spot. The fans are disappointed,

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Speaker 3: and they absolutely have a right to be. But as

929
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Speaker 3: a player, when stuff like that has happens, you just

930
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: get tight and you make your circle tighter and you

931
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Speaker 3: focus on you. And I'm playing that game for the

932
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Speaker 3: franchise because I got a contract to play for seventeen weeks.

933
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Speaker 3: I'm playing for the other fifty two guys in the

934
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Speaker 3: locker room, and I'm playing for the name on the

935
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Speaker 3: back of my jersey and my family. And it's easy

936
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Speaker 3: at the end, when you're out of it to get distracted.

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Speaker 3: People are saying, what do you think about this? What

938
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Speaker 3: about next year? You know, your family saying, or we're

939
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: gonna go on vacation. Uh huh, talk to me on Monday.

940
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 3: I got one game to play and I'm gonna prepare Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

941
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Speaker 3: just like we were going to the playoffs. And then

942
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Speaker 3: you think about the offseason when the offseason is that's

943
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Speaker 3: really the only way, in my opinion, the mindset that

944
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Speaker 3: a player.

945
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Speaker 2: Should have right now.

946
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Speaker 3: But coach, what's it like for you coaching in one

947
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Speaker 3: of these now knowing that there's just you know, unknowns

948
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: out there, and obviously just a lot of disappointment knowing

949
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Speaker 3: you're officially out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as a coach you're a little bit

951
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 4: more numb than the player. I mean, I coached every

952
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 4: game whether I was ohen fifteen or fifteen and one,

953
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: like it was the Super Bowl, I was certainly do this.

954
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Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to emphasize that you know, to

955
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Speaker 4: the players, and you've heard me talk about this, that

956
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: you know, the definition of a pro is you play anywhere,

957
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 4: any place, anytime. And as you said, there's nothing in

958
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 4: your contract that says you only play, you know, during

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00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: good times. This is just all about pride. Really, the

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Speaker 4: team with the most pride will win this Sunday. And again,

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Speaker 4: you're playing for yourself, You're playing for your teammates, You're

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Speaker 4: playing for your legacy, you know. And most importantly the

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Speaker 4: business end of it is when that tape goes out,

964
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Speaker 4: that is your resume. You don't spin it, you can't,

965
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Speaker 4: you know, you can't massage it like a politician. You can't,

966
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Speaker 4: you know, eliminate your mistakes. That tape is who you are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. It's really representative of you know,

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Speaker 2: what your future, what you want it to be in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, well said right there by Rick Venturi and

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Speaker 2: Joe Wrights. And that's all the time we've got tonight.

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Speaker 2: Great job fellis here tonight on Colts Roundtable Live. My

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Speaker 2: thanks goes out to again Chainstiken, you joined us on

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Speaker 2: that first segment tonight. The podcast version of this show

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Speaker 2: is going to be posted here shortly on Colts dot

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Speaker 2: Com and the Colts Mobile app and the Colts Audio

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Speaker 2: Network too, anywhere that you download your podcast. So we're

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Speaker 2: gonna be talking Colts football all week long here on

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Speaker 2: the Fan and also on the Colts Audio Network, as

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Speaker 2: we always do, and we're gonna do it next Monday

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Speaker 2: one final time here on Colts Roundtable Live, recapping the

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Speaker 2: season and Week eighteen against the Jacksonville Jaguars. But until then,

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Speaker 2: have a great week everybody, Happy New Year coming up,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for listening to Colts Round Table Live tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm Matt Taylor on ninety three to five and one

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