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Speaker 1: Warning you're a about to enter the arena and join

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Speaker 1: the Battle to Save America with your host, Sean Parnell.

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Speaker 1: Good evening, America. Hello battle crew, it is Wednesday, and

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Speaker 1: from sea to shining Sea in everybody in between. Welcome

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Speaker 1: patriots to Battleground Live. I am your host, combat veteran

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Speaker 1: and humble servant of America, Sean Parnell. Thank you all

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Speaker 1: for being with us on deck tonight. We've got Savage

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Speaker 1: Rich Barris. You know him, You love them, and we've

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Speaker 1: kind of coined Wednesdays as Savage Wednesdays in his honor. Now,

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Speaker 1: for a lot of the folks who are listening are

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Speaker 1: first time listeners or viewers, Savage Rich is a very

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Speaker 1: close friend of mine. He's also the best polster in

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Speaker 1: the business. And I do not say that likely lightly.

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Speaker 1: But he's on deck and so excited about that. But

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Speaker 1: before I get into the show run down, I've got

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Speaker 1: to say Biden spoke today at the National Peace Officers

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Speaker 1: Memorial Service. It's National Police Week and the National Peace

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Speaker 1: Officer's Memorial Service is all about honoring those police officers

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Speaker 1: who were tragically killed in the line of duty, gave

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Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice in defense of our communities and ultimately

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Speaker 1: our nation. It is not an easy time in America

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Speaker 1: to be a police officer, to be a law enforcement officer.

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Speaker 1: Their backs are up against the wall. The Democrats, half

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Speaker 1: of our political apparatus, sees them as the enemy and

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Speaker 1: wants them defunded, which is absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 2: And wrong on so many levels.

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Speaker 1: But Biden, I watch his speeches. I'm watching the memorial

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Speaker 1: service today because I think it's important to honor those

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Speaker 1: who serve our country, and I'm watching Biden speak, folks.

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Speaker 1: And he did it again. Somehow. He made a speech

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Speaker 1: about fallen police officers and servants of America, he made

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Speaker 1: it about him, and again I try to give him grace.

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Speaker 1: This is a man that lost his son to cancer,

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Speaker 1: but he did it. He brings up his son again, says,

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Speaker 1: you know, my son served in Iraq, came home, died

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Speaker 1: exactly what it's like. I know what it's like. But

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Speaker 1: the difference is is Joe Biden did not lose his

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Speaker 1: son in the line of duty. And as tragic as

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Speaker 1: whack job liberal. I'm not gonna I try to give

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden a little bit of grace here and there,

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Speaker 1: even though he certainly wouldn't give the same grace to me.

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Speaker 1: But ultimately, I think that's what makes us different, that's

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Speaker 1: why we're the good guys. But at any rate, I

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Speaker 1: served as a casualty assistance officer and a casually notification officer.

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Speaker 1: After I came back from Afghanistan, I was wounded. I

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Speaker 1: And my job eventually was to train new soldiers to

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Speaker 1: better to do so than me, someone who had just

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Speaker 1: But one of the first things that they teach you

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Speaker 1: because the truth is, you just don't, even if you've

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Speaker 1: But folks, he just doesn't change. I suppose that's what

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Speaker 1: they mean by you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

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Speaker 1: But at any rate, talk about right off the top,

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Speaker 1: Biden and Trump are set to debate. Biden set out

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Speaker 1: all these crazy rules and they're crazy. We're going to

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Speaker 1: I think it's too late. I could be completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats have an extraordinary level of control over their

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Speaker 1: So they are relying heavily on what is a vicious

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Speaker 1: under an enormous amount of pressure to change the game

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Speaker 1: and hit the reset button. And trust me when I

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Speaker 1: like this. Recently, Biden ditched the term Bidenomics. Right when

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Speaker 1: They do not want Biden's name associated with this economy.

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Speaker 1: The economy is a dumpster fire. In fact, everything Biden

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Speaker 1: Biden pulled a major one point eighty on tariffs on China. Look,

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Speaker 1: the long term, the companies will profit a lot more.

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Speaker 1: Biden insulted Trump during twenty twenty, said that Trump does

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Speaker 1: and attacked Trump relentlessly on this. But just yesterday Biden

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Speaker 1: By the way, Biden plans executive order to shut down

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Speaker 1: President Biden is planning executive action that would allow him

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Speaker 1: The order would match a provision in the bipartisan border

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Speaker 1: what's happening here, right, This is another major change of

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Speaker 1: waking up this morning to Joe Biden releasing a video

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Speaker 1: his pants on stage. I'm not even exaggerating. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I guarantee you the Democrats staff, his Democrats staff

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Speaker 2: Listen, well, it's two debates to me.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, Sain Sandy hadn't shown.

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Speaker 4: Up for debate.

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Speaker 5: Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again.

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Speaker 5: Will make my day, pal, I'll even do it twice.

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Speaker 5: So let's pick the dates. Donald, I hear you're free

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Speaker 1: So first of all, did you notice there were five

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Speaker 1: But the reason why they did that, Foe is because

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Speaker 1: all together? Because this is what happens when Joe Biden

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Speaker 5: I want to tell my Republican friends, get ready, Bell,

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Speaker 5: You're gonna en for a problem. I want to tell

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, this guy is going to be on

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Speaker 1: the debate stage.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this groundbreaking Asian Americans like Very Wang and

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Speaker 3: Joan Shengang SHV passed by Shangha Koa.

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Speaker 1: Look, there were lots of Biden reached out to the

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Speaker 1: Commission on Presidential Debates and basically said he wasn't going

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Speaker 1: want it. We've got you know, time is of the essence,

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Speaker 1: and I want to get Savage rich on here soon.

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Speaker 1: But Biden's debate offering to Trump did come with major,

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Speaker 1: major fine print, no live audience, and remember when Trump

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Speaker 1: was last on CNN with Kitlin Collins. Kitlin Collins tried

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Speaker 1: to get Trump numerous times, but by the end of

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Speaker 1: that debate, Trump had the audience laughing. So now Biden's

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Speaker 1: trying to adjust fire. Doesn't want Trump having that advantage.

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Speaker 1: RFK banned from the stage. Trump's mike will be muted

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Speaker 1: when Biden speaks. In all the criteria that Biden set

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Speaker 1: did this on purpose. Well, of course they did. And

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Speaker 1: It's just not so up next savage, Rich Barris, So,

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Speaker 2: And in that mindset, here's what they think. They think

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Speaker 6: that we know will be favorable to us, even the

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Speaker 6: Fox News debate. I got to tell you, I think

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Speaker 6: Trump's stepping on a serious landline here. I think he's

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Speaker 6: making a mistake. And I'm going to say this just

438
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Speaker 6: blatantly and outright. The demographic groups that are shifting to

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump and are handing him what looks to be

440
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Speaker 6: a potential landslide right now, don't watch CNN. They don't

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Speaker 6: watch Fox News, all right, They watch Tucker on Twitter,

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00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 6: they watch independent programs.

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Speaker 2: They don't get their news from these sources. All you

444
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Speaker 2: can do is hurt yourself with the boomers that you

445
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: have been recovering with. You do this and you make

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Speaker 2: a stick.

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Speaker 6: Oh it takes is one mishap, and he's got you

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Speaker 6: where he wants you. And I know you think he's

449
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Speaker 6: senile and stupid and you know mentally handicap. And I'm

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Speaker 6: talking out there to the Trump campaign and everyone else.

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Speaker 2: I know you do.

452
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Speaker 6: But they will stick whatever drug and his left ass

453
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Speaker 6: cheek they need to stick in there to make sure

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Speaker 6: he can stand up for an hour.

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Speaker 2: You think they're not. He's the president.

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Speaker 6: He has access to the most advanced what do they

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Speaker 6: call him, nootropics, whatever they are to get your mind

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Speaker 6: focused for a couple of minutes. They have access to

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Speaker 6: that stuff. We all have heard the reports.

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Speaker 2: They use it.

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Speaker 6: They will use it, and without a crowd there. Why

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Speaker 6: do they not want a crowd, Jean? Why are they

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Speaker 6: using all these stipulations because.

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Speaker 1: It takes them out. Yeah, it distracts them.

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Speaker 2: It distracts him because he's senile.

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Speaker 6: And if there's a laughter in the crowd and it

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Speaker 6: makes him angry, like old senile people get angry, it's

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Speaker 6: gonna react. But they are using a controlled environment and

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Speaker 6: Trump is walking right into it. Trump should have challenged

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Speaker 6: him to a debate on Tucker on Twitter or Joe

471
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Speaker 6: Rogan experience or something. This is totally totally pointless for him.

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Speaker 6: It's no there's like no upside there's no upside. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: there's not. This is playing by their rules in their

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Speaker 6: world again. And the one great thing about Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: is that he doesn't do that. So why in hell

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Speaker 6: is he doing it now? I'm sorry, he's making a

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Speaker 6: mistake here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because I think Trump thinks that, Hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get a fair shake anywhere I go.

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Speaker 1: And it is, by the way, change.

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Speaker 6: The trajectory though, Sean, just a man, I mean to

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Speaker 6: interrupt you. He's not going who has to change the

483
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Speaker 6: trajectory right now? Joe Biden is so he's going to

484
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Speaker 6: win if the election is today, tomorrow, a month from now.

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Speaker 6: The trend is as stable as it's been for fourteen months.

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Speaker 6: If if that is the case, Joe Biden loves So

487
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Speaker 6: why on earth would you do anything anything to change

488
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Speaker 6: the trajectory which in a way that is no longer

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Speaker 6: in your favor.

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Speaker 2: This is not a smart move. I'm sorry. I speak

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Speaker 2: my mind, man.

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Speaker 1: And look, Rich, that's why we love you, that's why

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Speaker 1: we have you on. I think I think Trump, I

494
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Speaker 1: think he believes it's gonna be unfair either way. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, you're completely right. The election we're held today,

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Speaker 1: he'd be he'd be the winner. And things aren't getting

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Speaker 1: any better for Biden. They're just not And I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: I have to say I was shocked to see Biden

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Speaker 1: come out and challenge him to a debate the way

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Speaker 1: that he did, because it must mean that things aren't

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Speaker 1: just close. Things are really freaking bad, really bad. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a weak move for an incumbent president to

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Speaker 1: go to a candidate and be like, hey, bro, debate me.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think it's it didn't look I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: he's like one hundred years old and with fifteen jump

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Speaker 1: cuts didn't even look real to me.

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Speaker 2: It was cut up?

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Speaker 1: Brother? Did you cut up?

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Speaker 2: Click? Click? Because he couldn't even get through it.

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Speaker 6: And the thing is too it's already got what like

511
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Speaker 6: five or six community notes on the bottom of it

512
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Speaker 6: on Twitter right now because what he's saying wasn't even true,

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Speaker 6: and there was only yeah, beat him twice. You only

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Speaker 6: debated him twice because you rigged the debate process, and

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Speaker 6: the Commission on Presidential Debates helped you. The second debate

516
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Speaker 6: is always the incumbent president's strongest debate because it's on

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Speaker 6: foreign policy. They use COVID to basically take the second

518
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Speaker 6: debate they had the first one, announced that the second

519
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Speaker 6: one would be canceled because they couldn't use plexiglass.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, the third one was

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Speaker 2: up and running again.

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Speaker 6: Why Joe Biden's been wrong on every foreign policy decision

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Speaker 6: in forty five years that he's been in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 6: He's the only coward who advised Barack Obama not to

525
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Speaker 6: press the green button and go Red team, Go Red team, go,

526
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Speaker 6: go get him in Islama body, and they got something

527
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Speaker 6: bin Lana and he was too much of a.

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 6: And then uh, when Trump, for instance, killed Cassan Solamani,

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Speaker 6: you know, is responsible for countless of your friend's desk,

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Speaker 6: no doubt where you are. Then he was on Twitter

532
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Speaker 6: and on the news saying how this is gonna end

533
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 6: up with a war in the Middle East. Well, guess what,

534
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 6: there's a war in the Middle East under him, not

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Speaker 6: under Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, they're gonna do this in a way.

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Speaker 6: Believe me, they're gonna try to do this, not gonna try,

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Speaker 6: They're going to do this in a way in a

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Speaker 6: similar fashion of what we saw in twenty twenty and.

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Speaker 2: Without the crowd even there.

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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, there's gonna be laughing, and there's

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00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 6: gonna be mocking, and Trump is gonna call him senile.

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Speaker 6: They don't want the crowd to laugh at it. They

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Speaker 6: don't want Joe flipping out. He should not have agreed

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Speaker 6: to these terms. What's the matter, Joe?

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Speaker 2: Are you too?

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Speaker 1: Damn?

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Speaker 6: You're the president of the United States. The correct answer,

549
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 6: you are the president of the United States. Are you

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Speaker 6: afraid you're gonna shit your pants in front of a

551
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 6: crowd of people? That's what the correct response was. And

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00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 6: guess what all the thirty to forty five year old

553
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 6: black men who are now voting for Donald Trump would

554
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 6: have fell over and rolled with laughter over it, and

555
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 6: so and by the way, they would have convinced their

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Speaker 6: girlfriend with that one to vote for him too.

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00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: This was the wrong move.

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Speaker 6: Stop acting like a political consultant and play ball in

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00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 6: your own damn field. Don't keep walking onto their home turf.

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00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: It's just I'm a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit you're swaying. I'm a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Stunned that he would fall for this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry in your corner, but you're swaying me like

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Speaker 1: I amn't like because I think I think campaigns are about,

565
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, the the optics of things. And Trump is

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Speaker 1: going to be on the stage and Biden's going to

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Speaker 1: be on the stage. And we've shown videos of of

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Speaker 1: Biden on the show Rich of him in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: and I mean I was shocked the first time as

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Speaker 1: the freaking host seeing these videos, and I'm thinking to myself, like,

571
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: holy God, he looks so much better in twenty twenty

572
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: than he does today. And so the American people when

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Speaker 1: they watch that debate, you know, comportment aside.

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're Biden, if you're his staff, but.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna clip it. They're gonna clip it.

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Speaker 6: You're not gonna see the geriatric shuffle on the way

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Speaker 6: to the podium. You're not gonna see it. And folks,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm talking about, the geriatric shuffle. Hold on, okay,

580
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 6: you're a geriatric shoff. The neck is here, you know,

581
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 6: the necks out like this, they're hunched over and you

582
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 6: kind of like shuffle. You don't even pick your feet

583
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 6: up anymore. They just kind of slide across the ground

584
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 6: with your neck out like a like a freaking Ostrich

585
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 6: you know what I'm talking.

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00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 1: About, mister Burns, Like how he's holding his hands up.

587
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: Remember Biden on me my flippers.

588
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: And slippers made from flippers, exactly.

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00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: Exactly, and it is it's so bad. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the American people are I don't know.

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00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: We'll see. And you've swayed me. I initially was like,

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Speaker 1: no matter how much it's rigged against Trump, everything, I mean,

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00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: that's the entire year has been rigged against Trump. It

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00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: hasn't gone the Democrats way. And as rigged as this

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00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: is gonna be it, it's even with all that, I

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00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: still see. I mean, you're not, to be clear, you're

597
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: not wrong about anything that you're saying.

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00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not saying he's automatically gonna lose Sean.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, this could have been such a better approach.

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Speaker 6: You know, this could have been such a better don't

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Speaker 6: play ball on their damn home turf. You could have

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Speaker 6: embarrassed him, he could have had a meltdown. We all

603
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 6: know he's a senile old man. You want him to

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Speaker 6: just completely lose it. He's going to lose it. This

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Speaker 6: isn't a state he lost it. Actually, the State of

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Speaker 6: the Union is the biggest lay up. I said this

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Speaker 6: on your show when it happened, I.

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Speaker 2: Was, and yeah, it's the biggest lamp speech a president

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Speaker 2: can do. And he's still lost it there with one

610
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: bit of the audience Marjorie Taylor Green going, you know, liar,

611
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 2: say her name, you know, and he lost his mind.

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Speaker 6: He Trump just agreed to take all that away when

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Speaker 6: he didn't have to, is my only point.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting he would lose a debate listen, man like

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Speaker 1: and Biden as deranged as he came off and angry

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Speaker 1: during the State of the Union. He made it through,

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00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: you know it through. He made it through. So it

618
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: would be wrong to underestimate Biden and wrong to underestimate

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Speaker 1: the overall situation that Trump. Look, he has to know,

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00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: he has to know that that he's going into hostile Tarry.

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Speaker 1: Of course, of course he doesn't have he of course

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Speaker 1: he knows that. But we'll see, we'll see how it

623
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Speaker 1: is out.

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Speaker 6: Why don't you come out and do a video and say,

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00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 6: in case you haven't noticed, Joe on kicking your you know,

626
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 6: I don't need to debate you, you need to debate me.

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00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 6: I don't give a damn if you're the president or not.

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00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 6: I sat at the Resolute guest too. You're going to

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00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 6: debate me on my terms or we can just keep

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00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 6: going on like this and.

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Speaker 2: You will lose because you will listen.

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Speaker 6: Let me just say something, and I know a lot

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Speaker 6: of Trumpers aren't going to hear it, but it's one

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Speaker 6: hundred percent trip.

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00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: It just dawned on dumbass Joe Scarborough the.

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00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 6: Other day that these prosecutions hurt them, not just because

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00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 6: they made people.

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00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: Really he made Trump relatable. There was just a focus

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00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: group with Georgia voters on MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: I have it, I have it. I want to play it.

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00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, but if you can play it, play it all right,

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00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 6: we'll try my point on all right, here we go.

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Speaker 7: Are they being impacted by this trial? Are they paying

644
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 7: close attention? And what impact might a guilty verdict have

645
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 7: on their decision to support the former president? Here's what

646
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 7: they told me. Take a look. Do each of you

647
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 7: support Donald Trump?

648
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: I do?

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00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, for all three of you.

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Speaker 7: Has this trial changed your opinion even caused you to

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Speaker 7: waiver or question that at all?

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Speaker 9: No, it's actually caused me to support him more. I

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Speaker 9: just don't believe there's a coincidence that we have a

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Speaker 9: trial happening in Atlanta, we have one happening.

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Speaker 4: In New York.

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Speaker 9: So the question people are beginning to ask themselves, like

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Speaker 9: I did, is like why now.

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Speaker 10: It's pretty much everybody says they're picking on him. You know,

659
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 10: people are tired of going after him, and you see

660
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 10: it in so many areas. It's really not a big

661
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 10: issue in the party. Actually, they're really making everybody mad,

662
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Speaker 10: and they look at a big bully and the government

663
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Speaker 10: is the bully.

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Speaker 7: This is going to be your first time casting a ballot?

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Speaker 4: What is it for you?

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Speaker 11: But he still hasn't given up, and he keeps fighting

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Speaker 11: to do his right.

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Speaker 8: I've talked to many people who formally identified as a Democrat.

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Speaker 8: They have changed their political persuasion to independent and they

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Speaker 8: are looking forward to voting for Trump because now they

671
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 8: find something in common with a political candidate. At that level.

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Speaker 7: When you say they find commonality, what is that commonality?

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Speaker 8: The baby They have felt persecuted by the system of

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Speaker 8: American injustice, and it's not a stretch for them to

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Speaker 8: think that Trump may be a victim as well. The

676
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Speaker 8: people see that there's there's some kind of commonality between

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Speaker 8: himself and maybe all the black men that have been

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Speaker 8: incarcerated in the families that have been impacted by black

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Speaker 8: men incarceration.

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Speaker 6: Here I mean, and I get a sweet Jesus same man.

681
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Speaker 6: I have been saying this for months, and now there

682
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Speaker 6: it is out of the mouth of a young black woman,

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Speaker 6: a professional black woman. I've been saying this, and like

684
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Speaker 6: white people are just like, duh, don't make sense, Like

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Speaker 6: because you're a white person and you don't get it,

686
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Speaker 6: and you don't have any real black friends and you're

687
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 6: not in any real black social circles, so you don't

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Speaker 6: understand their plight.

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Speaker 2: I mean, whether you want to admit it or not.

690
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Speaker 2: So just leave that, leave what they are saying, leave

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Speaker 2: their perception alone, and then don't don't do.

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Speaker 6: What Trump has done in sixteen twenty and again it

693
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 6: just dawned on Joe that if you do that, you're

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Speaker 6: in deep trouble. You want Trump to be out there

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00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 6: playing the game that you want him to play, saying

696
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Speaker 6: the things you want him to say, so then you

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Speaker 6: can attack him and make that the narrative instead of

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00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 6: the victimhood of it. Let him be the victim. Just

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Speaker 6: let him be the victim, the winning underdog victim. And

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Speaker 6: I just don't see why on earth, you know, you

701
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Speaker 6: just can't sit back and you know.

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Speaker 2: Just take the gift. Take the gift, just take it.

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Speaker 2: Don't do anything risky.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get back to Savage Rich, Barris Rich, welcome back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so people, but I think the Biden campaign, well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, you've swayed me on the Trump stuff. I

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Speaker 1: thought for Trump, the deck was always going to be

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Speaker 1: stacked against him. Yeah, it feels a little bit like

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Speaker 1: it's an ambush. Maybe, you know, maybe he should have

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Speaker 1: been a little bit more cautious. I still not completely

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Speaker 1: sold Biden is he's gonna mess up. He's gonna mess up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see.

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Speaker 6: I can see to that, you know, I mean I

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Speaker 6: can see, go ahead, good, I can see that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if it would have been about the whole,

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Speaker 1: like all these conservative influencers before we get to the

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Speaker 1: morning Joe's stuff and him freaking out of her polling,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about all the influencers saying almost

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Speaker 1: unequivocally that they're going to replace Biden at the convention,

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Speaker 1: And I say, you know, look, maybe I just don't

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Speaker 1: see how it's possible.

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Speaker 6: Now, listen, I would say to them or about them,

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Speaker 6: that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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Speaker 6: You don't know how the convention rules work, you don't

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00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 6: know the party rules. You don't understand that millions and

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00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 6: millions of people already cast ballots for him. If they

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Speaker 6: did that, that would be the end of the party, regardless.

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Speaker 2: They know that that people already voted too. That's interesting. Absolutely,

729
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Speaker 2: you're telling hundreds of millions of how many, Well, no, probably,

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Speaker 2: I'd have to go back and look, I haven't looked

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Speaker 2: up the Democratic vote. But you're telling millions that their

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Speaker 2: vote doesn't matter. And Joe Biden's not going to go down.

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Speaker 6: Either of the people who have already hitched their you know, wagon,

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Speaker 6: his horse, they're not gonna just let that happen.

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Speaker 2: They they're legally.

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Speaker 6: Exposed, they're politically exposed, they're financially exposed, they're professionally exposed.

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Speaker 6: If Biden goes down, they go down with them in

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Speaker 6: some way, shape or form. You think they're just gonna

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Speaker 6: let that happen, And then what leapfrog The first non

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Speaker 6: white vice female, first female, and first non white vice

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Speaker 6: president in the history of the country for somebody else.

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Speaker 2: That just scares.

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Speaker 6: Conservative influencers right now. I mean, because that's what I've

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00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 6: heard it myself. I've seen It's like when I hear that,

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Speaker 6: when I hear these arguments, what I really hear is fear,

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Speaker 6: and I hear like, uh, you know, whoever haunts their

747
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Speaker 6: dreams at night that they worry that could.

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Speaker 2: Be you know, oh my god, it'll be this one.

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Speaker 2: It'll be Gavin, And it's always Gavin.

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Speaker 1: By the way, get crushed exactly. They make The mistake

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Speaker 1: would be thinking that, Yeah, while maybe Gavin Newsom and

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Speaker 1: people like Josh Shapiro, maybe they're charismatic, maybe they're popular

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Speaker 1: in their own state, so is DeSantis. He got right,

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Speaker 1: totally different when you're running nationwide, people don't People don't

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Speaker 1: know Gavin Newsom in Iowa. I mean maybe if they

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Speaker 1: don't know Gavin Newsom and those who dude don't like him, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: We pulled him in the rust belt.

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Speaker 1: He can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, the number one.

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Speaker 6: Word I think, if if I had to pin it down,

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Speaker 6: I'm serious, the number one word I would have to

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Speaker 6: use is like slimy. I think that's how they they

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Speaker 6: air perception of him. They thought he was slimy, and

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Speaker 6: just like you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean that if they really did pick the

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Speaker 1: word slimy, they really got Gavin newsom Peg.

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Speaker 2: We heard that a lot, like he's just too slick.

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Speaker 2: He looks like a slimeball to me.

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Speaker 6: And uh, he just doesn't play with the like Wisconsin nice,

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Speaker 6: Minnesota nice. You know, don't you know Bobby kind of

771
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Speaker 6: voter like he doesn't play with them. And you guys

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Speaker 6: know what I'm talking about there Bobby's.

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Speaker 2: World, don't you know? Bobby, remember that U doesn't play

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Speaker 2: with them, brother, he doesn't.

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Speaker 6: I mean tackling you know, Chinese students or whatever the

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Speaker 6: hell you do in your free time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just not that they're not going to

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Speaker 2: relate to.

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Speaker 1: He's a Chinese kid of the.

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Speaker 2: Butt plane back in the rear, Bro.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine, I mean, oh my god, like doing

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Speaker 1: that to a child that's not yours. It's just the

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Speaker 1: weirdest thing. Democrats are so weird. It's like they have

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Speaker 1: to fabricate real human emotion and social interaction because they

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Speaker 1: have no soul. I mean, the new I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: Like AI trying to blend in Hello, humans, plea, is

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Speaker 6: it okay if I sniff your hair and talk about

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Speaker 6: the legs of the hair around my legs?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell? Somebody, somebody programmed this one

790
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Speaker 2: real wrong.

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Speaker 1: Send it back to the factory saying something about corn

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Speaker 1: pop and having a what the hell? And ironically, by

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Speaker 1: the way, maybe corn popping all of this was the

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Speaker 1: good guy. Have you ever considered that maybe maybe we

795
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Speaker 1: should have been rooting for cornpop.

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Speaker 2: All the higher time.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, man, you know that's And the ironic

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Speaker 6: thing is that Biden is even with him and being

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Speaker 6: abnormal as well. Biden is the one there. He's their

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Speaker 6: strongest camp. We've pulled everybody, even Michelle Obama. I don't

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Speaker 6: care what people say. That's another one. It's Gavin or Michelle. Somehow,

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Speaker 6: Michelle's gonna rise up with the hand through the grave

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Speaker 6: like a horror movie.

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Speaker 2: Ah, and she's.

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Speaker 6: Gonna steal the nomination from Joe Biden. It's like, give

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00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 6: me a damn break. Michelle Obama hasn't worked the day

807
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Speaker 6: in her life. She's not gonna work to win the

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Speaker 6: nomination the election, and she sures hell, not going to

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Speaker 6: do the job of the presidency.

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Speaker 2: Come on, she has no intention. Secondly, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 6: Was supposed to be super super popular as well.

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Speaker 2: Not even black people don't even like her. I'm serious.

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Speaker 6: It's like they white people make her out to be

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Speaker 6: like this, like star for non white women everywhere, and

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Speaker 6: non white women can't stand or ask. So I mean,

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Speaker 6: this is like always talked up and talked up and

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Speaker 6: never comes.

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Speaker 2: But the rules make it very difficult.

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Speaker 6: Let me just say it, And I don't like to

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Speaker 6: say these things out loud because I'm a believer in

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Speaker 6: the power of words, so I'll just allude to it.

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Speaker 6: The only way Joe Biden is getting replaced is if

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Speaker 6: he which I'm not going to say out loud.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I know. I don't like saying that either,

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Speaker 1: because we're different from the left in that way. They'll

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Speaker 1: go go out there and wish for death on somebody.

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Speaker 1: You know, we still have a moral compass as conservatives,

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Speaker 1: and that's what separates us from them, and.

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Speaker 6: Even the power of words too, Sean. I mean, you

831
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Speaker 6: don't wish things on people. You don't speak things into existence.

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Speaker 6: If you're a believer, if you're a spiritual person, and

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Speaker 6: JUDEO Christian values and beliefs. Hello, God created the universe

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Speaker 6: with the spoken word basically, so you know, there's got

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Speaker 6: to be something to the say us in the logos,

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Speaker 6: and I don't like to play with those voices, you know.

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Speaker 6: So if there's a piece of Him in us, then

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Speaker 6: we shouldn't be doing it. We should be more responsible.

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Speaker 6: So I just don't believe in saying those things out loud.

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Speaker 6: They they have a way of coming.

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Speaker 1: Rich the theologian. He's a theologist, right that the right?

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Speaker 1: Is that the right word?

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Speaker 12: Like?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that, I mean, when it's only religion, it's theologian.

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Speaker 6: And but you know, even the Greeks had their This

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Speaker 6: is the crazy thing. And I don't mean to go

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Speaker 6: off on the tangent here, but this is the crazy thing.

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Speaker 6: Even the Greeks, you know, Aristotle and played Oh, they

849
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Speaker 6: had similar concepts. And that's where that they also logos

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Speaker 6: that's a Greek comes from.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They had similar concepts even though they had no concept of.

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Speaker 6: The right of the ubrew Bible. Yet somehow they had this,

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Speaker 6: They had this worked out deduced.

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Speaker 2: In their mind. It's really something.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so let's get to the morning. Joe freak

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Speaker 1: out I think we've got that right here and get

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Speaker 1: a haircut to three to one.

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Speaker 11: Here's what I'd say about this about this pole. If

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Speaker 11: I were to ask you this question, Joe, do you

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Speaker 11: know anybody on either side who who doesn't think that

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Speaker 11: it's the case that of the battleground states that Joe

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Speaker 11: Biden is stronger in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin than he is

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Speaker 11: in Nevada, Arizona, and Georgia.

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Speaker 1: It sounds about right.

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Speaker 13: I've seen some suppolts that show that George is very close.

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Speaker 13: Greg Bluestein actually had an article that I'm not saying

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Speaker 13: that is wildly I'm not saying this.

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Speaker 11: I'm not going to carry water for the New York

870
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Speaker 11: Times or for the methodology of this pole. I'll keep

871
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Speaker 11: going back to a thing that I try to try

872
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Speaker 11: to say every time we talk about these things, which

873
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Speaker 11: is that I'm really interested and I know you know this.

874
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Speaker 11: It's like, where are the polls talking us directionally about

875
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Speaker 11: the race.

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Speaker 13: I understand that there's a difference though with the New

877
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 13: York Time Siena poll, and you know this, it's given

878
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 13: disproportion impact this year this cycle. It is skewed wildly,

879
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 13: and Donald Trump's direction hold on, and the New York

880
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 13: Times feasts on it with clickbait stories like a dozen

881
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Speaker 13: at a time.

882
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Speaker 11: And I and what I'm trying to focus on is

883
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Speaker 11: what I think people should pay attention to.

884
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Speaker 13: But what I'm trying to focus on is New York

885
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 13: Times right now is actively shaping the election cycles. Where

886
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 13: this poll comes out on a Sunday and on Monding,

887
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 13: people go oh, and I heard it, And I'm sitting

888
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 13: there going, oh, don't be so stupid. That's why we're

889
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 13: doing this. So hold on a second, hold no, hold on.

890
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Speaker 13: What I hear is after these Siena polls come out

891
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 13: every time New York fense pall is, oh, well, everything

892
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Speaker 13: that Joe Biden's done since the since the the State

893
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Speaker 13: of the Union address, all of these all this money

894
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Speaker 13: that he's put out, all of the campaigning is for

895
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Speaker 13: not no, it's.

896
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Speaker 1: It is. The guy's getting his ass kicked. I mean

897
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Speaker 1: that's look, that is like he's like out there to

898
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: begin with, but man, he is so wrong about New

899
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: York Times.

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Speaker 2: Siana pol is in the tank for Trump.

901
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: Give me a break.

902
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 6: Let's go down memory lane, shall we. Twenty sixteen North

903
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 6: Carolina Clinton plus six, Florida Clinton plus six. Let's fast

904
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Speaker 6: forward a little bit twenty eighteen Andrew Gillam Florida plus six.

905
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 6: We could just go on and on in twenty eighteen,

906
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 6: there were so many bad ones. Twenty twenty final New

907
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 6: York Times Poll Biden plus nine nationally, And of course.

908
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: That was way.

909
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: It was more than double what he got. All right.

910
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 6: Pennsylvania, they weren't that bad. I think they had him

911
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 6: up by six. He won by a little less than two,

912
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 6: so I mean still bad. Wisconsin Biden plus eleven. He

913
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Speaker 6: won by less than a half of point. Okay, Georgia

914
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: was close. It was a tie. So that was one

915
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 6: where that you can't really give them hell over it.

916
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 6: North Carolina Biden plus six.

917
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: He lost. That's an eight point miss.

918
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Speaker 6: Iowa sean Iowa Biden plus one, Ohio Biden plus three.

919
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Speaker 6: The Water states he got his total ass get Florida

920
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 6: Biden plus six. That's a nine and a half point miss.

921
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Speaker 6: For Joe to say, this is unbelievably ridiculous. And he

922
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 6: didn't care about how much influence and how much more

923
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 6: weight that pole got when it showed Biden with ridiculous leads.

924
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 6: He was never going to have, and you know, it's

925
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 6: kind of sad to listen to what's his name from

926
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 6: the circus go on and on, Sam not going to

927
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 6: defend the methodology of the New York Times Bowl Jesus Man.

928
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: Six months ago.

929
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Speaker 6: It was the gold standard, you know, like, make up

930
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 6: your damn mind, unbelievable.

931
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Speaker 2: The only thing they.

932
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 6: Have changed since, And one big, big change that they

933
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 6: have made is that they aren't immediately disqualifying dropped interviews

934
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Speaker 6: meaning the person did not finish.

935
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Speaker 2: They said, I'm voting for Trump. Here's the end. They

936
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: were like, you know what, I gotta go go bye.

937
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: Happens a lot. I've shown you these interviews. I've shown

938
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Speaker 2: you the transcripts of these.

939
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Speaker 1: Can I say what I'm talking about Rich? Yes, I

940
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: mean like for him to say it is, but like,

941
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Speaker 1: let's say, just take a thirty thousand foot view, right.

942
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: Trump was never up in sixteen in any poll. Trump

943
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: was never up in twenty twenty in any poll. Polls always,

944
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Speaker 1: and I mean at least it seems like in those

945
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: two cycles always underestimate or understated Trump's support. So for

946
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Speaker 1: him to be up, I mean, god, man is like

947
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: to me, it's like he must be up way more

948
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: than they're letting on. That's I don't know, I mean,

949
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: unless unless there's something sinister afoot and they've changed their

950
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: methodology a lot, and they're trying to make people complacent,

951
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: which sounds a little conspiratorial if I'm being honest. But

952
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: I know.

953
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 6: The change they made, Sean, and I'm sure I've showed

954
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 6: you those in those transcripts of people who drop those interviews.

955
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: They were all Trump supporters.

956
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 6: Like Biden supporters, Democrats, they don't drop at the rate

957
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 6: that Republicans, specially Trump supporters drop.

958
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: So what the New York.

959
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 6: Times did is go back and look and in twenty twenty,

960
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 6: had they not immediately excluded and screened those people out,

961
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Speaker 6: they wouldn't have as badly understated Trump's support. So they said, listen,

962
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 6: if we know the demographics of this person, and we

963
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 6: know it's them, it's validated that we're talking to this voter.

964
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 6: By the time they say right, I'm voting for Trump,

965
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 6: I'm done with the interview, We're still gonna include them.

966
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 6: Just because they didn't give us their household income, we

967
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 6: already know their household income.

968
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: Just because they didn't.

969
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 6: Say you live in a rural area or you know,

970
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 6: a suburban area. We know it's a suburb, right, so

971
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 6: we can do this and continue to keep this respondent.

972
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 2: That's all they did.

973
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 6: And honestly, that is a debated thing in this industry.

974
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 6: But there is nothing, nothing so off about that change

975
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 6: that you would begin to question it. It's got an

976
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 6: A plus rating from five thirty eight, their favorite website,

977
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 6: So give me a break. I mean, come on, this

978
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 6: is just because they're losing. They're the worst losers ever.

979
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 6: I hear about a election deniers. They are the ogs

980
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 6: of election denialism. They never accept elections they lose. Stacy

981
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 6: Abrams still hasn't accepted that she lost to Brian Kemp

982
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 6: in twenty eighteen.

983
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

984
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 6: Hillary Clinton still talks about Vladimir Putin hacking the election.

985
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: This is insane, you know. And for that, and Joe

986
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: is just and Joe's like a bought and paid for mouthpiece.

987
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: Here's some real here's some dig on Joe.

988
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 6: I know for a fact that Joe Scarbough used to

989
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 6: call Fox News when Bill O'Reilly was still there and

990
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 6: kiss his ass just again on Fox News, Bill, I

991
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 6: will be more conservative than Sean Hannity if you can

992
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 6: get Roger to get me on the air.

993
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: You know you did it.

994
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 2: Joe, you're for sale. You're you're a political whore. You'll

995
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 2: say whatever the hell you're paid to say.

996
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 6: You'll be a conservative one day, you'll be a latte

997
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 6: sippin liberal the next day. You're a total schmuck, all right.

998
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 6: Just but he fits the bill perfectly. He fits the

999
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 6: bill perfect You can't get another wave in your hair.

1000
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 6: By the way, so stop, it's like out there, somebody

1001
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 6: draw that guy in a character. It would be hilarious,

1002
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, we all got.

1003
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: A little flips.

1004
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: You do a thing. What the hell are you doing?

1005
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: Are you sturfing off the end of that son of

1006
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: a bit? Or what? Come on? Guy?

1007
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, By the way, I dare him to

1008
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 6: deny that story.

1009
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: I just told.

1010
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: I dare him to. I double triple dog, dare him

1011
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: to deny that he begged to get on Fox News.

1012
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: I'll change, I'll be so conservative, you have no idea.

1013
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: I'll make Sean handed you look like a liberal. I

1014
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: swear that's a true story. I dare him to deny it.

1015
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: Damn, you are a madman. That's awesome. So yeah, So

1016
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: about the no soul sean, No, I agree, no core convictions.

1017
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: I completely agree. Tell me, tell me we got some

1018
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: five thirty eight news, my friend, which by long overdo

1019
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: and you never answered my question what the hell took

1020
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: so long? So pill everybody in on what five thirty

1021
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: eight is and why what you're about to tell us

1022
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: really matters, because it actually is a huge deal for you,

1023
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: and it's it's it should have happened a long time ago,

1024
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: but go it is.

1025
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: And honestly, I didn't know about it.

1026
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 6: I started getting voicemails last night and I didn't know.

1027
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 6: And it looks like they retroactively added them because some

1028
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 6: of the polls that people were showing me were older

1029
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 6: polls and older averages, so I guess they added back

1030
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 6: added all these poles. So for a long time, when

1031
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 6: Nate Silver was at the head of five thirty eight,

1032
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 6: we were like, I don't know.

1033
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: What a poll it's a polling aggregator.

1034
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 6: It is, but they claim to be like honestly, they

1035
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 6: got their little Polster scorecard and they claimed to be

1036
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 6: like the authority in the polling industry, which I never liked,

1037
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 6: all right, So I kind of came out swinging when

1038
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 6: I became a you know, a public polster, like in

1039
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 6: the light, in the public light, and especially when it

1040
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 6: came to Nate Silver. It's just because and by the way,

1041
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 6: I'm not alone like other people like Larry's Sabado and

1042
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 6: others used to say that what he does is pseudoscience.

1043
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 6: He cannot give you seventy eight percent chance someone's going

1044
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 6: to win an election. It doesn't really work that way.

1045
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 6: You can give people a range on likelihood, but you

1046
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 6: can't do what he does. And the fact of the

1047
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 6: matter is it's not really a model. It's just a

1048
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 6: pole reading operation. And you know, data, if you know,

1049
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 6: crap in, crap out. If the data that's going into

1050
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 6: a model is garbage, the model itself is going to

1051
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 6: be garbage.

1052
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: So look, it was adversarial from the beginning. He thought

1053
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: he would be cute. And in twenty sixteen, even though

1054
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: we admitted what we were doing was experimental, an attempt

1055
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: to show that responds biases the cause of polling swings,

1056
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: not true change in public opinion. You know, it was like, oh,

1057
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: this isn't legit and banned us and it was like

1058
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: a real crappy thing to do.

1059
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 6: No email, no nothing, and by the way, that was

1060
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 6: after I had sent Nate Silver a list of methodological

1061
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 6: ex like explanation like what is now. I had been

1062
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 6: doing it long before it ever even came out. What

1063
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 6: is now the American Association of a Public Opinion Research

1064
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 6: is what they called the Transparency Initiative. This is where

1065
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 6: you get the data from. This is how you collect it.

1066
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 6: Here's how the interviews are done. Right, everything you need

1067
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 6: to know, how you calculated sampling errors. He just flatly

1068
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 6: ignored it and banned me. And that can hurt in

1069
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 6: this industry, There's no doubt about it.

1070
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: It can hurt. I had to thank all my followers.

1071
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 6: And listeners today because they stuck with me anyway. And apparently,

1072
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 6: now with Nate's Silver gone he was fired months ago,

1073
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 6: they're doing some retooling over there. They are still run

1074
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 6: by liberals, but they now, like Decision Desk, also aggregate

1075
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 6: our polls. It's a big deal to the fact that

1076
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 6: we are no longer banned from five point thirty eight,

1077
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 6: it's like kind of like a moral victory, you know,

1078
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 6: I mean it really it's a recognition that here's the deal.

1079
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 6: I mean, after twenty fourteen, when we released the model

1080
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 6: and our polls, we outperformed them badly, and I'd like,

1081
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Speaker 6: I wasn't a sore winner, you know, Sean, like, I

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Speaker 6: wasn't a sore winner. But it was worth pointing out

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Speaker 6: that fundamentals decide elections and that sometimes polls can actually

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Speaker 6: be quite misleading. And that was the entire point of

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Speaker 6: what I was trying to show people. It's just simply

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Speaker 6: trying to educate them. I guess you got to stick

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Speaker 6: up his butt over it. He didn't like it, and

1088
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,959
Speaker 6: you know, and it can hurt. How bad can it hurt?

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Speaker 6: Google deplatformed us after twenty sixteen because we were right

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Speaker 6: and Eate Silver was wrong. So I mean they totally

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Speaker 6: we had a great relationship with Google News. They totally

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Speaker 6: removed us because of five p thirty eight. So, I mean,

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Speaker 6: this is a big deal. I mean, it really is.

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Speaker 6: It's a huge deal.

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Speaker 1: People in the live chat are saying congrats, Savage, congrats Rich.

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Speaker 1: People were psyched for you. Man. That people love when

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Speaker 1: you come on the show and they support you.

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Speaker 2: I had to go to.

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Speaker 6: The decision desk Sean for sticking with me all these years,

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Speaker 6: Like decision desk never cared. I mean, we've always had

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Speaker 6: a great relationship. They've aggregated our polls from the beginning.

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Speaker 6: That's why their averages have been more accurate, by the way,

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Speaker 6: because again, garbage in, garbage out. You keep the best

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Speaker 6: people out and you're not going to have the best average.

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Speaker 6: So you want your model to be accurate. You want

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Speaker 6: your average to be accurate. You got to you know,

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Speaker 6: not play petty little games like this. So thanks to everybody.

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Speaker 1: Really, well, listen, congratulations, I mean, we love you, we

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00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: love having you on. I've been like, I've known about

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Speaker 1: your polling for quite some time, having been a candidate myself,

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Speaker 1: I always relied on it, even from the outside before

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Speaker 1: we even met. And what was again, what I've told

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Speaker 1: you from the very beginning is that, like it's very important,

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Speaker 1: although it doesn't factor into your analysis, but in terms

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Speaker 1: of the data, but you understand the moment that we're in,

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Speaker 1: and that really does make a difference. A lot of

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Speaker 1: these people that are inside the Beltway and take trains

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Speaker 1: back and forth from New York City to DC and

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Speaker 1: back again, they don't understand what Americans are going through.

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Speaker 1: And so why that matters is how you phrase your

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00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: questions matters, and it can elicit a better result, which

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Speaker 1: can elicit more accurate results for a pollster. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry that matters for you. It matters, Franny Polster, but

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Speaker 1: you're especially good at it, so it's well deserved. It

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Speaker 1: should have happened a long time ago. Rich, It really

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Speaker 1: should have. But I'm glad I suppose better late than never.

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Speaker 6: Right in RCP, you know who I love. I love

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Speaker 6: those guys. They're great guys. You know I expect the

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Speaker 6: same presently. You know I expect the same presently. But

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Speaker 6: you know, being in touch does really help, Sean. It

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Speaker 6: does because you know, like I maybe wasn't even though

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Speaker 6: I did well in sixteen, maybe I wasn't as much

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Speaker 6: as I am now, and that caused.

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Speaker 2: Me to understate Trump.

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Speaker 6: And in Ohio I got it right, but not not

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Speaker 6: like on the money, you know, like I knew you'd

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Speaker 6: win it, but not that much, you know, and looking

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Speaker 6: at like likely voter polls, Nate Cohen, he's in a

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Speaker 6: cubicle to The New York Times all day if his

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Speaker 6: registered voter is Trump plus seven in Michigan, and he

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Speaker 6: doesn't see anything wrong with the fact that he just decides, Oh,

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Speaker 6: I really think is going to vote fighten plus one.

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Speaker 2: That's a big difference.

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Speaker 6: You know, So I really do think and having your

1145
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 6: thumb on the pulse makes a difference because he's screening

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00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 6: out people. He just simply doesn't believe. You know, I

1147
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 6: don't believe them. They're not going to vote for Trump

1148
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 6: and they're not gonna vote at all. Well, you know,

1149
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 6: in the Trump era, disbelieve a voter at your own risk.

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Speaker 6: Because I know I've learned that lesson, I'll never do

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Speaker 6: it again.

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Speaker 1: Wow, man, Well tell tell us all. I mean, I

1153
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: think people know where they can find you at this point,

1154
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: but tell people, if they're watching, listening for the first time,

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Speaker 1: tell us how we can support you.

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Speaker 6: My friend home bases locals as always, People's pundent dot

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Speaker 6: locals dot com, People's pundit dot locals dot com. They

1158
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 6: can check out the public Pulling project, let's sit a

1159
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Speaker 6: little hand, support the poles, you know, they can click

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Speaker 6: on that check it out.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so it's a great it's a great online community,

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Speaker 2: really is, and I can't thank them enough. They're they're amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well, we love you, man, Hopefully we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: I know it's getting to the end of the year

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Speaker 1: with kid in school, and it's a crazy time. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had a chorus concert last night, hockey games tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: course concert on Friday, course concert on Saturday. It's like

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Speaker 1: all this end of the year stuff is like snowballing.

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Speaker 1: So I completely get it, man, But we hope to

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Speaker 1: catch you next week.

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Speaker 6: My friend sounds good. Brother, as always, I'll talk to

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Speaker 6: you soon. Thanks for having me see you, Rich, take care.

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Speaker 1: That was savage Rich Farris, the best polster in the business. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, he's the best. He's in touch. We're

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Speaker 1: lucky to have him. We hope that he continues to

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Speaker 1: set time aside for this show every Wednesday because his

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Speaker 1: insight is just so valuable. Okay, so all that stuff

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Speaker 1: was savage Rich. I mean, he's just so on the

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Speaker 1: money with everything. But listen, I've got it. I'd be

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Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't tell you about this because nobody's

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00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: talking about it. I don't see any national news organization

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Speaker 1: talking about it. And that's Michael Cohen's former attorney revealed

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Speaker 1: huge news today on Capitol Hill in front of the

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Speaker 1: How Judiciary Kennedy, which of course Jim Jordan is the chair.

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen like one, he didn't believe Michael Cohen. After

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Speaker 1: speaking to him, he testified that Michael Cohen didn't actually

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Speaker 1: believe the Stormy Daniel's allegation. Two he believes that Cohen

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Speaker 1: paid Stormy Daniels all on his own, and three he

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Speaker 1: believed that the President had absolutely nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: his folks. This is so important. Pay attention to this,

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Speaker 1: Listen to it because it just blows this case wide

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Speaker 1: open and should end it today.

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Speaker 14: Listen further cross examination, Cohen told me that he knew

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Speaker 14: there was money missing from the Trump inauguration.

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Speaker 4: I see where you are in now, thankay.

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Speaker 14: And then on the next page, into that first paragraph,

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Speaker 14: Cohen decided that while he didn't believe the allegation of

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Speaker 14: the Stormy Daniels story, that he thought the story would

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Speaker 14: be embarrassing for Trump and especially for Milania.

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Speaker 4: So he decided he would take care of it himself. Absolutely.

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Speaker 12: And that is contrary to what this guy testified to

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Speaker 12: in court in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so that's lie number one. It's unbelievable. This should

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Speaker 1: stop the case immediately. I mean that was lie number

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Speaker 1: one contrary testimony.

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Speaker 14: Listen today, Well, and what's not being talked about is

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Speaker 14: your next paragraph like the reason in his motivation for that,

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Speaker 14: so as you could just kind of walk through that

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Speaker 14: for the committee. Yeah, obviously, when we started to talk

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Speaker 14: about the NDAs, and this is the very first meeting

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Speaker 14: at the Regency Hotel, when, by the way, Rudy Giuliani

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Speaker 14: was not involved in representing Donald Trump at that time.

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Speaker 14: Cone testified that it was a conspiracy between Julianni and

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Speaker 14: Costello as of this date, totally false in any event.

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Speaker 14: He also said that he didn't discuss the Stormy Daniels

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Speaker 14: matter with us, and he certainly did. I specifically asked

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Speaker 14: him because he kept on going back saying, I can't

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Speaker 14: believe they're trying to.

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Speaker 4: Put me in jail for these NDAs.

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Speaker 12: So I said, Michael, tell me about the NDA, tell

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Speaker 12: me about Stormy Daniels.

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Speaker 4: What did you do?

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Speaker 12: He said, I got a call from from a lawyer

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Speaker 12: rep presenting Stormy Daniels who represented that she was going

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Speaker 12: to testify that Donald Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels.

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Speaker 12: Michael Cohne said, I didn't believe the allegation, but I

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Speaker 12: knew that such an allegation would be terribly embarrassing. He

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Speaker 12: said it would be embarrassing. He focused on Milania Trump.

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Speaker 12: He said, I didn't want to embarrass Malania Trump. He said,

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Speaker 12: that's why I decided to take care of this on

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Speaker 12: my own. I went back to that several times. You

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Speaker 12: did this on your own, on my own. Did Donald

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Speaker 12: Trump have anything to do with it? No?

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Speaker 4: Did you get the money from Donald Trump?

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Speaker 12: No from any of his organizations, No from anybody connected

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Speaker 12: to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 12: Where did you get the money. I took out a

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Speaker 12: heelock loan against my property. I said, why would you

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Speaker 12: do that? He said. I didn't want anybody to know

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Speaker 12: where I got this money. I didn't want Malania to know.

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Speaker 12: I didn't want my own wife to know, because she's

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Speaker 12: in charge, he said. Of the Cone family finances, he said,

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Speaker 12: if she saw money coming out of mind account, she'd

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Speaker 12: ask me one hundred questions and I didn't want to

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Speaker 12: answer any of them.

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Speaker 1: Folks, there is a paper trayal for all of this,

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Speaker 1: and this was Cohen's former attorney. Listen to me, folks.

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Speaker 1: If you think that this is not coordinated at the

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Speaker 1: highest levels of the Biden administration, ask yourself why. Because

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Speaker 1: you know Trump is not in court today. It's when

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Speaker 1: day he's off. But ask yourself why Wan Murshawn is

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Speaker 1: the judge. So it's the same judges popping up for

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. When Trump finishes this trial in New York,

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Speaker 1: when Jan murshan Democrat, activist, communist judge is finished with

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Speaker 1: this trial, do you know whose trial he takes up?

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Speaker 1: Steve Bannon. So again, somebody else, the Democrats are trying

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Speaker 1: to take out a commission with law fair. Believe me

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Speaker 1: when I tell you this is rigged. It always has been.

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Speaker 1: Never believe anything anyone else tells you on this. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, every day that goes by, we learn more.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of learning more, before we sign off today,

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Speaker 1: there's some good news that I have for you, and

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Speaker 1: that's today. Again, you're not going to see this on

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Speaker 1: the news. I haven't seen it reported anywhere, but the HHS,

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Speaker 1: the Health and Human Services suspended funding and proposed a

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Speaker 1: formal debarment of the EcoHealth Alliance, citing evidence from the

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Speaker 1: House COVID Selects report, and it says accountability is here.

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Speaker 1: So from the COVID Select Committee, the House Committee on

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Speaker 1: an Investigation of COVID basically today, based on evidence uncovered

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Speaker 1: in COVID Select Committee's recent report, the US Department of

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Speaker 1: Health and Human Services commenced formal debarment proceedings against EcoHealth Alliance.

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Speaker 1: EcoHealth will now face an immediate government wide suspension of

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Speaker 1: taxpayer funds, including a hold on all active grants. Folks,

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Speaker 1: this is incurab let's hope. Now. Accountability comes for Fauci,

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Speaker 1: Accountability comes for Scarf Lady, accountability calls, it comes for

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Speaker 1: every one of these deep state hacks that destroyed this

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Speaker 1: country through lockdowns and mask mandates and vaccine mandates. This

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Speaker 1: is a positive step. So I don't know what it means.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. I'm not going to

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01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: look too far into it. But this is a positive

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Speaker 1: step and we should celebrate it while it's here. So

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Speaker 1: thank you all, folks. I mean, we've been rocking and

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Speaker 1: rolling for seventy two minutes straight. Could go on for

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Speaker 1: another hour, but thank you all so much for sticking

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Speaker 1: with me, and thank you to Savage Ritz for being here.

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Speaker 1: We have an amazing show planned for tomorrow. I'm gonna

1288
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Speaker 1: try to get Brian Dean Wright, former CIA guy, talk

1289
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: about this barge in Galveston that slammed into a bridge.

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Speaker 1: He was taught Brian Dean Wright again a CIA guy.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible for the Chinese to hack barges? Of

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Speaker 1: course it is.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about that in his podcast tonight or today.

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Speaker 1: I believe I want to unpack that with him on

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Speaker 1: this show for you. It's part of my job to

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Speaker 1: keep us all thinking critically and talk about things from

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Speaker 1: a fresh perspective. So that'll be either Thursday or Friday.

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Speaker 1: But either way, I've been planning the show for tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's already hopping and popping. It's going to be great.

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Speaker 1: So stick with us. Stick with us and watch the

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Speaker 1: show live here on Rumble from five to six, or

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Speaker 1: for our friends listening on iHeart, come over to Rumble

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Speaker 1: and subscribe and follow Battleground live on the show here.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to have you in the live chat before

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Speaker 1: we sign off. Got a flag here from Aunt Cindy

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Speaker 1: steel Woman. Thank you for the Rumble rant tip. Thank

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Speaker 1: you seriously, Boston Guy and Hammerhead. You all are the best.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been with this show since the very beginning.

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Speaker 1: This show is and always will be for you. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to do that, but one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: the proceeds that you all put in the tips there

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Speaker 1: in the live chat, go to building a better show.

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Speaker 1: Have my promise on that it's all about you. This

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Speaker 1: show is and it always will be. It's a show

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Speaker 1: for we the people. So oh, before we sign off,

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Speaker 1: smash that like button. I don't know where are we at?

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Speaker 1: Let me come over here and look looks like we

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Speaker 1: are at two hundred and thirty five rumbles. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Smash that like button, that little green thumb beneath the

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Speaker 1: video it helps to show immensely. Tell your family and

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Speaker 1: your friends to subscribe to Battleground Live right here on Rumble.

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Speaker 1: And as always, folks, thank you. The show is for you.

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Speaker 1: God bless you all, and God bless this amazing country

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Speaker 1: that we call home. Take care, good night, and I

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Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow