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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast wants to play into their forties.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansens and I'm joined by Ropeville,

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Speaker 1: the Heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosen. Thought.

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Speaker 1: What up, boys? How you doing great? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am doing just well? That's good, good good. We

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Speaker 1: just found out Greg does not like people who lived

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Speaker 1: in the nineteenth century. Didn't Well, I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 1: be one. I threw it out there downstairs. Who would

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Speaker 1: rather be General Robert E. Lee or Scott Norwood, the

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Speaker 1: former Bills kicker. Most people came down at Scott Norwood,

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Speaker 1: but Greg was the only one that was outright dismissive

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Speaker 1: that anyone would ever live before the century. Correct. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't dismissive. I'm saying I'd rather be in a relatively

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Speaker 1: rough situation in two thousand and fourteen. Maybe you don't

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Speaker 1: have the best job in the world, whatever, not a

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Speaker 1: At best, you're you're losing three or four of your

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Speaker 1: eight children, You've you're losing teeth, you've got sexually transmitted diseases.

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Speaker 1: It's number one. All those things are possible in the

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Speaker 1: modern age. But you're at you're picking what is a

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Speaker 1: guy who broke the heart of the state of New

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Speaker 1: York and bills fans everywhere. You'll live with that for

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Speaker 1: the rest of yours. I'm sure he's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: That's there. That's their problem for Dan raises a good

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Speaker 1: point here. If you're Roberty Lee right about now, you

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Speaker 1: are probably laying on your hammock reading a book about

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Speaker 1: your own exploits. What are you talking about with a

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Speaker 1: nice glass of lemonade or iced tea in your hand.

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Speaker 1: There was no there was no electricity, There was nothing

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Speaker 1: sprun off a question that I asked Dan and Wesley initially,

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Speaker 1: whether you would rather spend a year living in close

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Speaker 1: and Leno went out definitely down. He's got stories. This

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Speaker 1: is why there's nothing on the website today. We have

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Speaker 1: a great show today, the Wednesday Editionally Around the League podcast,

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Speaker 1: uh supersized news because there's so much news right now

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Speaker 1: on training camp that we're going to go through multiple

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Speaker 1: items and offer hot takes, touch of mirth, but real analysis.

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Speaker 1: When you listen to the show, you come out of

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Speaker 1: it thinking, well, I know more about the NFL today.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, learned and all sorts of things. Yeah, in

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Speaker 1: the presence of true genius, by the way, is on

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Speaker 1: the fifth on the depth chart right now. Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: We're gonna bring back one of our favorite games of

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Speaker 1: the Around the League podcast. Of course it is What's

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Speaker 1: more Likely are which will be exciting. Everybody loves What's

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Speaker 1: more Likely? I'll put on my Wink Martindale cap. But

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Speaker 1: before that, like we said, a lot of news, and

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Speaker 1: the producer. And in this case, the great TV is

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Buddy, how you doing, guys, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: let me join your podcast. How nervous are you to

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Speaker 1: Why don't we start with doing some news and we

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Speaker 1: I would bet fourteen high octane sandwiches. Wow, by the way,

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Speaker 1: the Big Easy, You've got Bird, the Crescent City, You've

429
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Speaker 1: got Kenny macaro I will just to sit here in

430
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Speaker 1: attempt to get one sentence out. Sorry, Louis is really

431
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite news development's got. Let The shifting

432
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Speaker 1: into safety is just it's a trinket. You're not going

433
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Speaker 1: to do it. We should that This does not mean

434
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Speaker 1: that he's definitely getting cutting no one. He couldn't turn

435
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Speaker 1: it around and play fine. He probably won't be a starter.

436
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Speaker 1: I mean you, probably the best you can hope is

437
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Speaker 1: he's a decent shocker, thirty six year old cornerback. Not

438
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Speaker 1: fast in the hips. We're all a little stiffer in

439
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Speaker 1: the hips right now it happens hey now catches up

440
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Speaker 1: and and in your defense. By the way, you know,

441
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Speaker 1: there is like a famous song with Lewis arms Louis Armstrong.

442
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Speaker 1: Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans?

443
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Speaker 1: So let's get a little I've never admitted that I

444
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Speaker 1: was wrong. A lot of people pronounce it that way.

445
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson's song says that the way you did previously,

446
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Speaker 1: there's a better than era song called King of New Orleans.

447
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Speaker 1: I'm back in hands us on this one great single

448
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Speaker 1: when You've got everything, Uh, you know who. I don't

449
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: want to back me up because he's really annoying Arian Foster,

450
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Speaker 1: who hasn't really spoke. This is not really a news

451
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Speaker 1: on him, but I just want to say annoyed me, Yes,

452
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Speaker 1: thank you. Arian Foster has not really spoken with any

453
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Speaker 1: of the local reporters in Houston. H During O t

454
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Speaker 1: S and training camp, he had plenty of time for

455
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Speaker 1: people when he was promoting promoting Draft Day, which obviously

456
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Speaker 1: made less than ten million in its opening weekend to

457
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Speaker 1: the box office, did not do well, but they finally

458
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Speaker 1: spoke with him today. Reporters spoke to Aaron Foster. He

459
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Speaker 1: granted access and gave the same exact answer eleven times

460
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Speaker 1: in nineties seconds. And here's the answer. I'm just out

461
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Speaker 1: here trying to be the best teammate I can be

462
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to work hard at doing that. No

463
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Speaker 1: matter what question he got, he answered that Arian Foster

464
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Speaker 1: has got a calm down because he's not as funny

465
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Speaker 1: and as smart as he thinks he is hot. Take wow,

466
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Speaker 1: enough with you know the the ponderous Twitter feed and

467
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Speaker 1: now you have this. You know what that's annoying. I

468
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Speaker 1: don't think that's funny or cute. Well, if you can,

469
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Speaker 1: I get something off my chest about someone being annoying

470
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Speaker 1: to it. The Acron Beacon Beacon Journal get a griff.

471
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Speaker 1: You've lost all perspective on life and football. Johnny Manziel

472
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Speaker 1: had a beer with a couple of teammates at a

473
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Speaker 1: local tavern yesterday. They have an off day today. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: and the journal blew it way out of proportion, lost

475
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Speaker 1: all perspective on what's important in life. And not in

476
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Speaker 1: defense of the Acron Beacon Journal, but it was Busted Coverage,

477
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: which is a sports gossip site that posted the photos.

478
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Speaker 1: But then a reporter from that paper then took and

479
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Speaker 1: turned into a post and then used the Mike Evans

480
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Speaker 1: quote saying who Mike Evans is? Former teammate who said

481
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Speaker 1: that you won't see Johnny going out once camp starts.

482
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Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel and is off day gets a beer. What's

483
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Speaker 1: going on with that? By the way, let's not turn

484
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Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel into brand Jelina now or something, by the way,

485
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Speaker 1: he was out with the rest of Cleveland's quarterback round,

486
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Speaker 1: which no one will you know bother mentioning any football

487
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Speaker 1: book you read, it's all you know from the these

488
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Speaker 1: and seventies is all filled with the hijinks of the

489
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Speaker 1: players sneaking out, sneaking out and getting wasted at the

490
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Speaker 1: local bar that's near the Steelers training team bonding. This

491
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Speaker 1: is a time to bond. This is why the modern

492
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Speaker 1: media cannot have nice things, because here we had served

493
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Speaker 1: up on a silver platter, potentially an evolutionary name of

494
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Speaker 1: guy who likes the party and drink and hang out

495
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Speaker 1: with hot chicks and potentially win a lot of football games.

496
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Speaker 1: But we're not even gonna let that happen. We're gonna

497
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Speaker 1: bury them and treat them like a caged animal, taking

498
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Speaker 1: taking cell phone shots and then sending it off to

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Speaker 1: gossip webs. I couldn't agree with you more. And I

500
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Speaker 1: think anyone that wants to critique manziel Or if you

501
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Speaker 1: want to get on board and write a full story

502
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Speaker 1: about the other quarterbacks going out and having a beer,

503
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Speaker 1: go live for six months in a row in a

504
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Speaker 1: one betterment apartment in Barria, Ohio. See how long it

505
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Speaker 1: takes you to escape and go get a beer somewere,

506
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Speaker 1: especially if your complex is built on an Indian burial

507
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Speaker 1: ground as the Browns. How would do you like if

508
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Speaker 1: the media treating you the same way they did Johnny Manziel.

509
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Speaker 1: I would be fired, Yes, I would multiple less, You

510
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Speaker 1: would go post, you would would go back to Oh no,

511
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to do anything extra than what you

512
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Speaker 1: already do. It would just be light on my activities.

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Speaker 1: All right, and that's what's happening. X Mailman Ponies up

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Speaker 1: to tavern barstool. Alright, So we have not played this

515
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Speaker 1: game in a while, but it's time because, uh, as

516
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Speaker 1: we hinted last week, with the regular season approaching, we

517
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Speaker 1: have a lot of things lined up, So let's bring

518
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Speaker 1: back one of our favorite games. It's called What's more Likely?

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Speaker 1: What more Likely? So I will put on my Wink

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Speaker 1: Martindale cap or skinny tie and go around the table,

521
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Speaker 1: or I'll just throw things out there and then you

522
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Speaker 1: gentlemen will chime in and I'll start with this one.

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Speaker 1: What more likely? Johnny Manzel is a week one starter?

524
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Speaker 1: Or Teddy Bridgewater is a week one starter? Well we know, well,

525
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Speaker 1: Wesleyan and I need to start out. I have said

526
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Speaker 1: all along. I think they both will start week one

527
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Speaker 1: it I will say for the record, Johnny Manziel would

528
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Speaker 1: be my pit. Yeah. I think actually I'm gonna go

529
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Speaker 1: Bridgewater from the Browns fan, that's stuff. It's a tough call.

530
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Speaker 1: What's your reason in here? I think Bridgewater has one

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Speaker 1: over Norv Turner. We talked with us on the last show,

532
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Speaker 1: and Manzel I think will open as a sub package

533
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Speaker 1: guy that they use and roll out Hoyer because it's

534
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh against Dick Lebon. Can I just point out one

535
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Speaker 1: thing because when we got into it on the last show,

536
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Speaker 1: and West rightly was pointing out everyone thinking, or a

537
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Speaker 1: lot of people thinking that that the job is now

538
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Speaker 1: Horriers without anything really happening. The media on the same

539
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Speaker 1: level is doing the same thing in Minnesota where all

540
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, North North Turner loves Teddy Bridgewater. But

541
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Speaker 1: we really haven't seen these guys play really in practice

542
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Speaker 1: or have been in any preseason games, so that seems

543
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Speaker 1: a little premature too that he seems now to be

544
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Speaker 1: the favorite to get that show. I think we both

545
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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing we agreed upon last week was

546
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Speaker 1: that preseason games, even though it's a small sample size,

547
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Speaker 1: could totally blow away anything we think today. Well, and

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Speaker 1: we don't have the option to say neither, because I

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Speaker 1: would say neither, but since you got to play the game,

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Speaker 1: I would actually go man Zell barely. I don't think

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Speaker 1: either one has a great chance. Throwing his support behind me,

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Speaker 1: I like it, it's not really I don't think either

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Speaker 1: one has a very good chance. And we also speaking

554
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Speaker 1: are one of our listeners, Jason Zumalt on Vine cooked

555
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Speaker 1: up a great video of fantastic Chris and well, we

556
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Speaker 1: tweeted it out yesterday if you want to find it,

557
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Speaker 1: but of him preparing softball pants in his kitchen after

558
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Speaker 1: watching Total Total Access on NFL network. So people are talking,

559
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Speaker 1: people are planning now West for you to be eating

560
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Speaker 1: polyester and zipper and other composite parts. Well, you know

561
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Speaker 1: why he might have started cooking it after watching Total Access,

562
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: watching some of those throws Man's all made yesterday. It

563
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Speaker 1: was kind of a three interceptions some ducks out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, that's good quarterback. It wasn't a good day.

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Speaker 1: Was more likely. J Cutler wins m v P as

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Speaker 1: his teammate Brandon Marshall believed. He said that today on

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Speaker 1: Inside Training Camp Live, Jay Cutler wins MVP or Josh

568
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: McCown throws for four thousand yards easily, Josh McCown throwing

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Speaker 1: for four thousand yards. I have to go m account

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Speaker 1: more so because I don't believe Cutler is the guy

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Speaker 1: that's can ever win an MVP. We'll share they're both

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Speaker 1: long shots. I love me some Jake Cutler, tasty, m

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Speaker 1: v P is tough. Four thousand yards in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: Not that that round quarterback. They didn't give him a chance.

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Speaker 1: If they would have just given him a chance, they

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Speaker 1: showed no page pair point. Cutler is the m v

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Speaker 1: P of conversion vans. That's true. Alright, So that's been

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Speaker 1: just that's been settled. We move forward. More likely Marshawn

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Speaker 1: Lynches hold out less into the regular season, or more

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch gets a new contract. Who that's an interesting

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Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna go, Marshawn Lynches hold out last

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Speaker 1: until the regular season. I don't. I think the Seahawks

583
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Speaker 1: have come out publicly, they've said what they're gonna say.

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Speaker 1: You can't back off of that. Now I'd expect Lynch

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Speaker 1: will come in. But if it's one or the other,

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Speaker 1: so long and here comes Kristin Michael. I'm really this

587
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Speaker 1: one is a good one because I think what they're

588
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Speaker 1: gonna do is they're going to uh not give him

589
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Speaker 1: a new contract and he'll be there for week one,

590
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Speaker 1: but they're gonna wipe away all the fines that he

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Speaker 1: accrued over his holdout. Chris, I feel like he's going

592
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Speaker 1: to report without a new contract. But if I have

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Speaker 1: to pick one of these options over the other, I

594
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Speaker 1: will say the Seahawks sweeten the pots slightly and get

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Speaker 1: him to come in. Mm hmm. We're kind of cheating

596
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: with some of these ants. They're just going to throw them.

597
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: I started the trend. They say, here's another more ray

598
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Speaker 1: Rice runs for yards or Chris john and runs for

599
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Speaker 1: yards like this. It wouldn't surprise me if if either

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Speaker 1: of them did see that's cheating again. The question, let's

601
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Speaker 1: see Chris Johnson because ray Rice is definitely gonna miss

602
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Speaker 1: two games and a bad person. I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is hard. I'm going ray Rice. I could just if

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Speaker 1: someone's got to make the big rejuvenation and get the

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Speaker 1: ball enough to do it. I know he's gonna miss

606
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: the two games. I'm still going I'm going Ray, we

607
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: forget that Bernard Pierce is one of the ten best

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Speaker 1: running backs in the NFL. Who says that? Who said that? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I would, I would say, check back on my list

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Speaker 1: and find out if that's really what I said. Oh,

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Speaker 1: shut you down, just shut down? The Jets did say, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I'm going the short yardage. I'm going with with Dan's

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Speaker 1: Chris from the Jett A second, I'm sorry, wait, this

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Speaker 1: is the second time in about three minutes all the

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Speaker 1: geniuses in the round table called out a prediction I

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00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: got wrong. Who called the blowout of the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: three months before it happened? You did? And I don't

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Speaker 1: disagree with you on Bernard Piers, So go ahead. Number one.

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Speaker 1: Number one. I believe that that Seahawks tweet. I backed

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Speaker 1: you early on on that. I thought that was that. However,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go Chris Johnson because I think they'll

622
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: quickly forget about Chris Ivory if stem cell treatment received.

623
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Speaker 1: Chris Johnson, he got stem cells in the off season.

624
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what that does, but it sounds good.

625
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: He's going to have a rebound year for a team

626
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna run the ball whole ton Morely, Brian Hoyer

627
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: becomes the next Tom Brady, or dinosaurs again roam the earth.

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Speaker 1: I got a big laugh out of Zach. We'll see

629
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: them again. Of course, that's what Joe Thomas said yesterday

630
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Speaker 1: or earlier this week about Brian Hoyer and the Cleveland

631
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: part of the Tom Brady mystique and the reason that

632
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Speaker 1: you know, my mom has known who Tom Brady is

633
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: for a decade plus, and my grand other and everyone else.

634
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: He is the quintessential All American boy. He's got a

635
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: great head of hair and he plays quarterback. Well, Brian

636
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Speaker 1: Hoyer is not going to be the next Tom Brady. Uh.

637
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Speaker 1: And you're talking about the scope of the entire planet,

638
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Speaker 1: you take. I do not have a problem with the

639
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Speaker 1: idea of dinosaur. Everything is cyclical. Dinosaurs probably will come

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Speaker 1: back at that point. We will be here to get

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Speaker 1: I'll get that that correct, but I'm not sure we'll

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Speaker 1: be here tosaur going dinosaurs. So you think dinosaurs have

643
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Speaker 1: a better chance to roam the earth than Hoyer does.

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Speaker 1: To get some sort of help on his receding here

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Speaker 1: to win, to win, three Super Bowls go to five

646
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Speaker 1: for the same team. Could him up with some Banyer

647
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Speaker 1: is beyond receded hairline by the way he just receded.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Hoyer if only because I'd love to

649
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Speaker 1: see what happens to Mark Sessler. If that happens, that

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Speaker 1: would be fun. Too late to jade it already. Greg

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Speaker 1: goes against the Raptors. More likely, Kurt Warner makes the

652
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame or Marvin Harrison makes the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: This it ties back to our series that we're working

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Speaker 1: on right now. Has to be Marvin Harrison making it

655
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Speaker 1: in next year over Kurt Warner in his first year.

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Speaker 1: It made no sense that Harrison got left off. It

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Speaker 1: just seemed like they were like, let's get into Andre

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Speaker 1: Read while we can, and we'll let Harrison get in

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Speaker 1: next year, which I hate. It was a no brainer

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Speaker 1: and they missed it. Yeah, I I don't really track

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Famous closely as a some that sounds

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Speaker 1: fine by me. I'll go with Greg and he's my boss.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna side with that they both get in,

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Speaker 1: but I have to say which one gets him first.

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Speaker 1: I'll go with Marvin. There was a four year stretch

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Speaker 1: of Marvin Harrison's career where he averaged a hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen catches over fifteen hundred yards in fourteen TVs.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous, amazing, And I wrote in my post about Warner,

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Speaker 1: It's sports are weird sometimes because if if not for

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Speaker 1: an Adam Vinatieri kick and if not for a Santoni

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Speaker 1: Holmes backtoe situation in the end zone. Warner came very

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Speaker 1: close to winning three Super Bowls, and then we never

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Speaker 1: even talked about whether Kurt warners in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: He's in the discussion as one of the great quarterbacks ever.

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Speaker 1: They didn't lose those games because of Warner, but because

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Speaker 1: they didn't win them, history looks at him differently. I

677
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: think he deserves it, doesn't He had the three time

678
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: certain lingle game passing totals in NFL in Super Bowl history.

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Speaker 1: He had. He had one of the He had a

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Speaker 1: unique career, one of the strangest careers where he was

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Speaker 1: He came out of nowhere, showed up in his late

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Speaker 1: twenties and became one of the best quarterbacks in the world.

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Speaker 1: Then became a Jag, just another guy for four straight

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Speaker 1: years in the middle of the two thousands, and then

685
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Speaker 1: again he rose again when he got with Arizona. Of course,

686
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Speaker 1: the cast around him played a big role, but he

687
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Speaker 1: he became that guy again. He had two periods over

688
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Speaker 1: ten years where he was a great, great quarterback and

689
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Speaker 1: then a weird period in the middle where he was

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Speaker 1: basically the middle of the pack guy that got beaten

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Speaker 1: out by Matt Leiner got bench for Matt Liner. Like

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Speaker 1: this was very strange career. He got beaten out by

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Speaker 1: Matt Liner in the same way Michael Vick's going to

694
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Speaker 1: be beaten out by No Smith. They're just going to

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Speaker 1: hand him the job. Yeah, Josh mc count also beat

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Speaker 1: out Kurt Warner once upon a time. That's fair. More

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Speaker 1: likely Eli Manning post se completion percentage where Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: is arrested for the assassination of William McKinley push, that

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00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: seems fair. Who is it that said Eli is gonna

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Speaker 1: That was the quarterbacks coach whose name escapes me for

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Speaker 1: the Giants, But Eli who had a I think I

702
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Speaker 1: wrote in the post this week he had to throw

703
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Speaker 1: two consecutive complete passes at the end of last season

704
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Speaker 1: to get to se his highest ever was. It was

705
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Speaker 1: about fifty seven last year. Seventy has only been done

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Speaker 1: by six quarterbacks. I can't imagine Eli Manning in year

707
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: twelve or whatever coming off at that offense will help,

708
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Speaker 1: but that he's not going to do that. Sorry, Mark,

709
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Speaker 1: I'll bang you in apple Pie with a file in it.

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Speaker 1: You're going to jail for I will send you a

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Speaker 1: greta Garbow post with a pick act. I just hope

712
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Speaker 1: that Greig is the lead detective on this because he

713
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Speaker 1: would be like, this happened in the past, it doesn't matter. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's why case clock, I mean going with elis. Life's

715
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Speaker 1: not that valuable. What happened in the night. Hey new

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Speaker 1: slash guys, McKinley is already dead. Can't even happen? You

717
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: can can't even happen? Guys. The connects Mark to that killing, right,

718
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Speaker 1: and I'm the lost character from Tuck ever Lasting that's

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Speaker 1: actually been alive since then. This is people live forever before.

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Speaker 1: Someone will know that before we go? Does anybody else

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Speaker 1: have a what's more likely to throw out? I have one?

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Speaker 1: You do you guys? Yeah? Well go for it? Mark,

723
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Speaker 1: No, no no, no, We'll go this way. What's more likely?

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Speaker 1: Des Bryant, hyper motivated, in great shape, des Bryant contract year,

725
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Speaker 1: breaks Calvin Johnson's receiving yards record, or the Cowboys have

726
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Speaker 1: the number one draft pick. M I don't need to

727
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Speaker 1: wait number one. Here's the weird thing with the Cowboys,

728
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Speaker 1: and I loved Dez Bryan so much. I always make

729
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: sure he's on my fantasy team. They have a weird

730
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Speaker 1: thing where they get away from him in games. At

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Speaker 1: times they're gonna need to pass a ton and they

732
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Speaker 1: have no one else to throw to. He's gonna get

733
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Speaker 1: plenty of targets. They'll probably be top twenty and targets

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Speaker 1: he should be top top target. Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think I said earlier. As long as Tony Romo is playing,

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Speaker 1: there's no way they're gonna lose more than ten games.

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Speaker 1: I think I think he got a bulky back. He does,

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Speaker 1: will Brandon beat Reid and be the weird footnote who

739
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Speaker 1: throws the ball to the NFL's leading receiver two years

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Speaker 1: in a row. I'm going des Bryant leading setting the record.

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Speaker 1: I could see that. I can't. I can't see the

742
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Speaker 1: number one pick. Uh, Greg, yours looks like I gotta

743
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Speaker 1: come up with something you want us to throw it tomorrow. No,

744
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: here we got how about what's more likely? And Dominican

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Speaker 1: Sue is a Detroit Lion in two thousand fifteen, or

746
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Speaker 1: in Dominant Sue is not a Detroit Lion in two

747
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Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen. Are Owny and Rappaport reported that they're

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Speaker 1: willing to let him test free agency after turning off

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Speaker 1: contract talks. Uh, he will not be a Lion in

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Speaker 1: two thousand. The Lions have just conceded their only advantage

751
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: that they're not going to use the franchise tag and

752
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: they're not going to give an extension. Once he hits

753
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: the open market, somebody will blow his doors off. Yeah.

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00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: They they gave away all leverage. Uh, it's unless something

755
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: else happens. I would go with the same answer. They

756
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: will keep Dominant Sue because he's one of the best

757
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: defensive tackles in football. He'll show it again this year

758
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: and they'll wise up and they'll figure it out and

759
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: they'll probably franchise him. The franchise him because it cost

760
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: million dollars, big contract, or they will franchise him and

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00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: the gym will get fired. It's a it's a weird

762
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: story coming out didn't you think that was a strange story.

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00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: Something's going on there with that dominant Sioux in the

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00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Lions when they came out earlier this week and and

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Speaker 1: they said publicly we're not gonna talk with him anymore.

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Speaker 1: And then this comes like in dominicansus that much of

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Speaker 1: a unique individual that he told them, Look, you guys

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Speaker 1: don't want to pay me. Look, I'll give you a chance,

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Speaker 1: and I want to stay in Detroit, but I just

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Speaker 1: want to see if I can get a lot more month.

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Speaker 1: Is it possible that behind the scenes he's viewed as

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Speaker 1: a seven letter word that starts with A and that's

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Speaker 1: wanting to be involved with him. No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: An athlete, yes, aragnophobic, huge athlete. Maybe maybe they offered

775
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: to pay him in subway sub um maybe, but he

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Speaker 1: probably has one of those cards because they don't exist

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Speaker 1: the lifetime he does. Subway mark all right, not so

778
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Speaker 1: football related, but related to uh to the podcast here,

779
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Speaker 1: And it's a three parter. It's got three choices, so

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00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: don't bow out after the second. So you're breaking out

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Speaker 1: of the structure of the game for your own purposes.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I never know the rules of the game.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't do that intentionally, But what is more likely?

784
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Speaker 1: A Dan Hans releases a chat book of poetry based

785
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Speaker 1: on his late adult life as a casual sailor along

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Speaker 1: the shores of Iceland. All right, be Greg Rosenthal leaves

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Speaker 1: football blogging to join a band of late thirties something

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Speaker 1: goss is DANIELI falls off a chair to join a

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Speaker 1: band of late thirties something goss in a musical group

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Speaker 1: calling themselves Marshall Apple White and the Hail Bob Comets.

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00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: Or that's already happened, alright, Or see Chris Westling gets

792
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Speaker 1: caught in a dangerous love triangle with diminutive but sort

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Speaker 1: of hot fem thespian Ellen Page and former Lions Quasi

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Speaker 1: kicker Kick Alicious. Oh it's not even close. I could

795
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Speaker 1: see Wesleyan doing that. That sounds like a great time.

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Speaker 1: Can't you just imagine Wesley showed up to work but

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00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: anywres like he got a crazy story for you. I'm

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00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. I need your advice. Yeah, Ellen Page,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she's in to West and it's

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00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: not against West. She doesn't know him yet. I'm speaking

801
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: of other issues that I'm really a family friendly podcast.

802
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: We don't really need to delve too much into a

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00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: personal life. But I don't know if if that's what

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Speaker 1: she's not one, we can we can break the rules, Mark,

805
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: and you can, since you clearly spent a lot of

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00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: time coming up with this, give us your your pick.

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Speaker 1: I do see Dan ending his life as a sailor,

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00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, in another country, reflectively looking back and maybe

809
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: writing some book of poetry that would get published. I

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00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: would buy that, didn't he do that? Didn't? Well, that's right,

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Speaker 1: going back to your roots in a way, that's what

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Speaker 1: we do. Go like a goofy, goofy sort of like

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Speaker 1: they might be giants, dead milkman type of band. That's

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00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: far from God. But you your hair died black correct

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Speaker 1: as a freshman in high school. But everywhere team towards

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Speaker 1: goth region everyone was doing that. Then are you also

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Speaker 1: purposely very pale? That comes that might be more? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if they might be giants

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Speaker 1: is crush? It was just alternative alternative, it's all. He's

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Speaker 1: alt dot Rosenthal. If you were to find it on

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Speaker 1: the web back then not indeed. Well that's it for

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Speaker 1: this edition of the Around the League Podcast. We will

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Speaker 1: be back probably on Friday with another show. Uh. We'll

824
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Speaker 1: talk about all the news in the NFL and anything

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Speaker 1: else that comes to mind. Signing off, This is Dan

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Speaker 1: Jnsis for The Sizzler, the mail Man, the Boss, and

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Speaker 1: Zach