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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire. What is up

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Monday,

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Speaker 2: November twenty seventh. Back from the holiday break. It was

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Speaker 2: good to take a few days off the podcast and

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Speaker 2: I used to have a couple of days off the

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Speaker 2: herd kind of power down, not a lot of computer time.

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Speaker 2: It's always a good feeling when you don't open your

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Speaker 2: computer for three or four days and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that was the last time I was actually doing work.

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Speaker 2: So sat through Sunday NFL Slate. Kind of a lot

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Speaker 2: of bad football. We'll get to it. A couple really

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Speaker 2: really good games. Hope everybody had a phenomenal Turkey break

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Speaker 2: and getting back to the gym to shed the pounds.

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Speaker 2: I haven't played hoops much. I just played once. We

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Speaker 2: got the hoops semifinals this week against Mosgoff, the big

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Speaker 2: reatch ifout the time, because I don't need guys showing

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Speaker 2: up and we lose. We do have one guy who

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Speaker 2: will will not play but should be a good one.

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Speaker 2: Daughter's got the UH soccer semi finals. Listen, you know

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Speaker 2: we do championships in the mcatire family. That's that's what

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Speaker 2: we try to do. Unfortunately, there will not be a

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Speaker 2: championship for me in the one million dollar Vegas Gambling

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Speaker 2: Contest this year. Tough weekend in the contest. Chargers let

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Speaker 2: me down Sunday night. I don't think I'm not even

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about that crap game. I'm so angry with

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Speaker 2: the Chargers. I don't know. I thought Brandon Staley would

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Speaker 2: have been gone by now, but you know, maybe later

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Speaker 2: this morning they will end up canning him to another

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Speaker 2: horrific job by a bad coach, and everybody's bagging on Herbert.

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Speaker 2: I'll defend him later, but I think we need to

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Speaker 2: start with the game of the day. Philadelphia just continuing

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Speaker 2: to shock opponents who outplay them. And I'm watching this

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Speaker 2: game with my daughter. You know, we're putting some stuff

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Speaker 2: on the Christmas tree, and of course she's now backing

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Speaker 2: the Eagles because of the Kelsey brother and because, oh dad,

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Speaker 2: I was born in Pennsylvania, remember, But it's really about

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Speaker 2: the Taylor Swift connection to the Kelsey's. And I was

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Speaker 2: telling her, like, you know, there's listen, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: to get to in this game. But they're center. They're

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Speaker 2: all world center. Jason Kelsey had two penalties on the

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Speaker 2: final drive when they were looking to tie it up.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's uncharacteristic. There's no way Elliott

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Speaker 2: makes a fifty nine yard field goal in the rain,

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Speaker 2: and of course he nails. It wouldn't have been good from

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Speaker 2: like sixty four. And then you know, Jalen Hurts takes

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Speaker 2: over and does what he does, and and the Bills

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Speaker 2: choke and I get a push and the Eagles win

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Speaker 2: an overtime. Thirty seven thirty four are a tremendous game. Now,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to chew on here. I think the

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Speaker 2: overarching take and listen, I did used to live in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: I still text buddies back there. I'm sorry, guys, I

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Speaker 2: know you. Listen. I don't think this is a great

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Speaker 2: Eagles team. Some of the numbers backed me up. They're

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Speaker 2: not considered like a top three or four team according

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Speaker 2: They're just not. They are They're not the best team

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Speaker 2: in the league. But then you look at the standings,

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Speaker 2: you look at who they're beating, and you're like, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, what how are they doing this? The Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: Eagles ladies and gentlemen have gone seven for seven in

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Speaker 2: the red zone in the last two weeks against the

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Speaker 2: yet they were outgained by over one hundred yards in

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Speaker 2: each game. I mean, they're just perfect in the red

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Speaker 2: who is just tremendous. I mean, this guy is out

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Speaker 2: of his mind, unbelievable stature. Jalen Hurts sound twenty three

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Speaker 2: and two as a starter for the Eagles. He has

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Speaker 2: eight straight wins when trailing by double digits. I think

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Speaker 2: it was Rob who, maybe two years ago on this pod,

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Speaker 2: the set about Lamar Jackson when he starts trailing by

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Speaker 2: double digits, he can't come back. Now that has changed

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Speaker 2: a little bit. I think he has a couple of those.

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Speaker 2: But Jalen Hurts when trailing by double digits has eight

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Speaker 2: he's got like this sly grin, like this is what

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Speaker 2: I do. I win games. And it's like, listen, man,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to him later. But like it's third and fifteen,

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Speaker 2: Bills are clinging to a lead, Jalen Hurts running around

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Speaker 2: nothing there, although probably be a penalty on the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I'm holding and Hurts chucks one and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the guy Ozakias, whoever that is, makes this incredible cat.

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Speaker 2: Michael Hyde just got cooked in the end zone and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, how does he do. How does he make

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Speaker 2: out of his mind right now. And I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen was heroic for Buffalo. That dude played unbelievable game.

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Speaker 2: He cannot be blamed. He did have the one bad

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Speaker 2: interception that got Philly back in the game, but other

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Speaker 2: than that, I mean, he was nails. I saw at

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Speaker 2: one point they had six conversions when it was third

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Speaker 2: though he's like three yards downfield, and the defender still

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Speaker 2: falls for it. Alan really played a tremendous game. And

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Speaker 2: then they come up and lose, and it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen's good. Jalen Hurts right now is just better.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurt's just making clutch plays. That's what he's been doing. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I know that's you're not supposed to say clutch, and

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Speaker 2: it's silly and I can't really quantify clutch, but I

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Speaker 2: The Bills are one of the best, and I know

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Speaker 2: people are with Jason they might not make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and I'm here to agree with that. That's okay. The

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Speaker 2: and yes, they probably will miss the playoffs. The Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Chief Scenarrowhead and then the Dallas Cowboys in back to

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Speaker 2: possible at Chargers versus Patriots at Dolphins. But yeah, Buffalo

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Speaker 2: I didn't say they missed the playoffs. I did say

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Speaker 2: their super Bowl window was closed, like they can't get

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Speaker 2: stops on defense. But here's a news flash, neither can

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Speaker 2: the Eagles. Buffalo had five hundred yards of offense at

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Speaker 2: one point. I wrote this down in the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: The yardage advantage was Buffalo three point fifteen Philly ninety five.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you this this is another game statistically

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Speaker 2: red zone turnovers. Philly got outplayed by Buffalo on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: And I know, like it's not gonna be a popular thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm just that's the reality. Like Buffalo was the better team,

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Speaker 2: they just didn't win. Philly got a fifty nine yard

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Speaker 2: field goal, got the touchdown and overtime. I mean Alan

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Speaker 2: don't know if you guys saw that. It's still unclear

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Speaker 2: to me. And I tried to look it up rob

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Speaker 2: whose mistake that was? And I unmuted it to hear

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Speaker 2: what Romo said. Usually I muted because I'm watching multiple games.

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Speaker 2: But Romo made it sound like it was a corner

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Speaker 2: pattern and Davis went to the corner, but Allan for

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Speaker 2: some reason, through it middle because the middle was wide open.

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Speaker 2: I guess the safety had committed or the safety was blitzing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. And Romo didn't sound like he wanted

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Speaker 2: to blame Allan, but it wasn't Davis's fault, if that

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Speaker 2: makes any sense. I don't know. Again, I can't kill Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Listen if you had three, it's a crappy push whatever

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Speaker 2: that kind of day gambling. But I don't know, Rob,

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Speaker 2: it's not too hot of a take to say the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: They're not the best team in the league record wise, Yes,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco minus one and a half. I like San

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Speaker 2: Francisco a lot. I will say, before anybody wants to

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Speaker 2: freak out Jason, you're out of your mind. Just remember

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Monday Night football against the Chiefs, grueling game, injuries galore,

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Speaker 2: come home. They play an overtime game against Buffalo where

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Speaker 2: the defense was on the field for wait for it,

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Speaker 2: ninety two plays. Usually eighty is the line of demarcation.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two plays, the line was Philly minus one and

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Speaker 2: a half. On the look ahead, it's now San fran

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Speaker 2: Fran a lot.

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Speaker 2: They played on Thursday against Seattle, and I do think

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Speaker 2: we will have San Frian win this game and people

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Speaker 2: will agree with me. Sanm Friand's the best team in

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Speaker 2: the NFC. I do think Rob. The other thing. I

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Speaker 2: think this is an MVP showdown between Hurts and Party.

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Speaker 2: I think hurts Obviously, he's on top right now. He's

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Speaker 2: been tremendous back to back weeks. He's been just good

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Speaker 2: enough to win. But I'm very curious to see what

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Speaker 2: happens when Brock Purty faces what I think is an

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Speaker 2: overrated defense. I mean, listen, Dak shredded them. Mahomes had

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen just cooked them. So I think Perdy can

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Speaker 2: do the same. I like the Niners and Philly's good.

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Speaker 2: They can certainly get to the super Bowl again. I

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Speaker 2: just think it right now, I think they're a little

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's a super hot take. Now

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Speaker 1: you saying the way you started this whole spiel was

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're that good, and then you close

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Speaker 1: it with they're just not the best team. So I

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Speaker 1: think there's some gray area in there. But either way,

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Speaker 1: let me just say this shout out to Jalen hurts Man.

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Speaker 1: He's now twenty seven and two in his last twenty

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Speaker 1: nine games as a starter, all right, including sixteen and

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Speaker 1: one in last seventeen games including this is my favorites stat.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen straight regular season wins versus teams that are over

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Speaker 1: five hundred and the other thing, as you mentioned it

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Speaker 1: right off the top, the Eagles have now trailed at

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Speaker 1: halftime in each of their past four games and have

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Speaker 1: found a way to win all of them. So, even

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Speaker 1: though everything that you're saying is accurate, their back end

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Speaker 1: of the secondary is very leaky. Their offense just because

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Speaker 1: of the way that they play, is going to give

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Speaker 1: you opportunities to keep it close because even though they

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Speaker 1: have big play weapons and AJ Brown, Davonte Smith and

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Speaker 1: even Jalen Hurts for that matter, they don't score like

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Speaker 1: a big play offense, very methodical. They're going to grind

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Speaker 1: you out six minute, seven minute, eight minute drives, very

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Speaker 2: mean Herbert dropped back. Well, it looks like forty seven

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Speaker 2: Some people have broken down that game winning touchdown run

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Speaker 2: and it's weird. We've been saying rob for the longest time.

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Speaker 2: I know Bosa missed. I look around. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 2: Herbert through forty four times Keenan Allen had sixteen targets.

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Speaker 2: You are a Raiders fan, you watch Chargers plenty. Their

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Speaker 1: That was a sweet player, though, Rob.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't do anything other than that play, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: don't know, Rob. They drafted Quintin Johnson. I had his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was benched. Quinton was Ben Johnson? It was

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Speaker 2: That's interesting that you bring up the coach. So I

428
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Speaker 2: can't believe that. I'm looking at the stands and Chargers

429
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: are four and seven in the basement of the AFC West.

430
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: It looks like their season is over, But I think

431
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: we've done a couple of funerals for teams and like

432
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: they're they're kind of resurgent. So I'm not gonna totally

433
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: say they're done. Let me take a peek at the

434
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: Chargers schedule, Like, let's see what they got here. They

435
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: have New England up next, should be a win. They're favored.

436
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 2: I just don't think anything's a layup for the Chargers

437
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 2: these days. Then they face Denver, which will not be easy.

438
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: Then they face Raiders Buffalo Denver Casey, Yeah, that's gonna

439
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: be an uphill climb. What's staggering is Rob The Chargers

440
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 2: are now two games behind the Denver Broncos, who started

441
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: one in five and last year at this time, the

442
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: discussion was Russell Wilson, he's totally washed. Oh gosh, he's

443
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: just not good anymore. He's trash. You know, that's what

444
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: the kids now say. They they don't say people aren't

445
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: great or they're just trash. And Russell Wilson at this

446
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: time he was trash. People were mocking him left and right.

447
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: He was, Oh, what a bust? How did he fall

448
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: off a cliff so fast? Well, Russell Wilson in the

449
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: offseason got a new coach by the name of Sean Payton,

450
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: and he knows a little something about offense obviously coach

451
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: Drew Brees and New Orleans. So Russell Wilson now this

452
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: year is decidedly not trash. He's not like a top

453
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: ten quarterback, but he certainly is playing good enough football

454
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: that the Broncos have won five straight. Now, it's a

455
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: different brand of football, a lot of checkdown stuff, the

456
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: six point nine yards per ten, but this is what matters,

457
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: twenty touchdowns, four interceptions. Russell Wilson's quarterback rating is back

458
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: to where it was in his Seattle. Well, not that

459
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: one year they went to the Super Bowl, but it's

460
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: prime Seattle, and his QBR is a shade below and

461
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: we could look at the other other data if you want.

462
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna confuse him with an MVP candidate. But Russell

463
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: Wilson is not losing games for Denver last year with

464
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: a shitty coach who's now with the Jets. Of course,

465
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: so you know I'm not talking about the Jets guys.

466
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson has magically turned it around. And how much

467
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: of that is Sean Payton, Well, I don't know. If

468
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: you look at the game yesterday, Russell Wilson thirteen of

469
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: twenty two, buck thirty four a touchdown, not a massive team, right,

470
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: nothing like oh that jumps out. That's the reason they

471
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: clobbered Cleveland. And I think we like Denver here on

472
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Speaker 2: the show. They were facing a backup quarterback and they

473
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: have a good defense. Denver's new formula is a formula

474
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: is seeing around the league a lot like Atlanta does this.

475
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: New Orleans tries to do this. If you don't have

476
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: a top five quarterback, top seven quarter you're basically saying

477
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna just run the ball. Play it safe and

478
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: not screw up. It doesn't make for great football because

479
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: Rob and I were talking before the pod and it's like,

480
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: if you looked at that one pm window, almost every

481
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: team with a shit quarterback was doing this. Pittsburgh versus

482
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 2: Cincinnati was just a bad football game. Like it was.

483
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: It was basically like, hey, Kenny, don't blow the game

484
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Speaker 2: for us. Okay, we've got this. We're gonna beat this

485
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Speaker 2: quarterback in a submission, Let's make the safe plays. Let's

486
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: get out of here with a dub Okay. Then you

487
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: look at Tampa, Indy pretty much the same thing. Minshew, Hey, hey,

488
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: we got this, let me dial up the place. Shane

489
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: Steichen is a freaking wizard. I don't know if you guys.

490
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: I put some stuff on Instagram yesterday. He's really cooking

491
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: up some interesting stuff. Atlanta, New Orleans. Hey, hey, let's

492
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: play it safe. Ridder, Let's not throw oh, Ridder, you

493
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: had to throw the ball and he throw its like

494
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: a red zone pick. And Derek Carr some red zone

495
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: mistakes Carolina, Tennessee. Like, neither quarterback goes for two hundred yards.

496
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: It's run, it's don't screw it up, right, New York Giants,

497
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 2: New England, Mac Jones bench, blah blah blah. But like

498
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: that's a lot of the league right now. Rob, let's

499
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: play it safe. We don't want to be Chuck and Duck.

500
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: Let's not get behind the eight ball. Let's get an

501
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: early lead, and let's kind of put it in cruise control. Hey,

502
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a running back dive on first down,

503
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: or we're doing like a quick screen or a tight

504
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: end out for like four or five yards. It's gonna

505
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: keep those chains moving and like that formula works now,

506
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: it has a ceiling. Obviously, you can't get to the playoffs,

507
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: have to face you know, you're not gonna I don't

508
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: think you're gonna beat Kansas City doing that. I don't

509
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: even know that you're gonna beat Jacksonville. I definitely don't

510
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: think you're gonna beat to Miami doing that. Although Miami

511
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: suffered that that Phillips injuries, massive the achilles on the

512
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: defensive line, that's just brutal. It certainly has a ceiling.

513
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: But you're gonna live to fight another day. And that's

514
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: what Denver's doing and shun Peyton like recognize this. Shut.

515
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't know Rob how much credit does Sean Payton deserve. Now,

516
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: let's be real, Denver is not smothering teams. They're not

517
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: dominating teams, but they're doing what they have to do

518
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 2: to win and limiting mistakes. Russ did have a fumble

519
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: against the Browns, just a great punch out by the

520
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: kid from Notre Dame. J Okay, really great punch out.

521
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: And then after that, you know it was like, okay,

522
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: they played clean and Cleveland turned the ball over with

523
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: their young quarterback dtr So during the stretch, Russell Wilson

524
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: has defeated Jordan Love, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Josh Dobbs,

525
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: and now dt are So two of those are backups

526
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 2: and one is the first year starter. Do with that information,

527
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: which you will? They do have a face a tougher

528
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: test in CJ. Stroud this week. But Rob, I'm curious

529
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: how much does Sean Payton matter here? Because if you remember,

530
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 2: every Chargers fan worth his salt said in this past

531
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: offseason fires daily, please get Peyton, please get Peyton. But

532
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: they couldn't afford Peyton, so that was never happening. Can

533
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: you do? How's this a how much does Peyton matter?

534
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: With Russ and be if Herbert had Peyton is there

535
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: four and seven, seven and four, even though they've got

536
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: all these injuries to Mike Williams and Josh Palmer And

537
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: don't laugh at Josh Palmer, trust me, he's good. Guys,

538
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Bosa all these injuries, Like, I guarantee you, they're not

539
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: four and seven and losing all these close games. I

540
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: can personally guarantee it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I would lean that if John Payton was coaching

542
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers that they'd be much better than four and seven.

543
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Staley and insert Arthur Smith, insert Dennis Allen,

544
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: insert any number of coaches with that roster would be

545
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: better than four and seven. Brandon Staley is terrible. Outside

546
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: of Josh McDaniel's. He's the worst coach I've seen in

547
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: this season. The champagn thing is interesting because when they

548
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: like that, the praise should be as loud as the disrespect.

549
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: Right when they lost by seven, are the he of

550
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: seventy Everybody was piling on Sempayne, like, look, this is

551
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: obviously not gonna work. He's he's gonna escapegoat somebody. He's

552
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: getting rid of all his veteran players. You know, he

553
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: dumped two defensive starters. He was trying to trade Jerry

554
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Judy at the deadline, and it's like everyone's trying to

555
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: find out their their exit strategy from Russell Wilson because

556
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: obviously this roster is not built to win.

557
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: And then.

558
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: Playing mostly young players, a lot of guys who stepped

559
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: up for the field, the voids that left behin him

560
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: by the veterans. They go on this streak. So you

561
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: would think that everybody who was ripping Sean Payton and

562
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: those guys early in the season would be keeping the

563
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: praise on him. And I'll tell you the reason why

564
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: I think that's not happening is this might be the

565
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: most fraudulent five game winning streak we've seen in the NFL. Okay,

566
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, you brought him up. He's been solid during

567
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: this five game winning streak, but it's only to the

568
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: tune of two hundred and two total yards a game.

569
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Speaker 1: He's not turning the ball over the eight touchdown, zero picks,

570
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: high completion percentage seventy one percent, which is leading to

571
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Speaker 1: a high quarterback rating of one oh nine point five.

572
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: So you think, yeah, that's great. To your point, though,

573
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: you cannot win playing just clean football, mistake free football

574
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: against good teams, you need things to break your way.

575
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: And what's happened to them is that defense that got

576
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: lit up to the two to seventy points by the

577
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: Marvie Dolphins in the last four games have fifteen takeaways.

578
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Damn near any team in the NFL is gonna win

579
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: games if they're averaging three and a half four takeaways

580
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: a game. You know how hard it is to lose

581
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: a game when you are plus two in the turnover battle,

582
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: much less plus three or plus four, Like, it's damn

583
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: near impossible in today's NFL to lose games like that.

584
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Speaker 1: And I say all this to say that that style

585
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: of play is not sustainable. You're not gonna win games.

586
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: You're not gonna force three and four turnovers every game

587
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: and play clean football yourself. That's just not realistic. So

588
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: that's why I think people are not really buying into

589
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: this Broncos team right now.

590
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's fair. We'll get a much better sense

591
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: of where they are here. Maybe the five game winning

592
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: streak is bs. They go to Houston, then they visit

593
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: the Chargers, then they visit Detroit, and what is a

594
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: tough three game road streak. You know, that's three straight

595
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: road games in December. We'll see how they handle it.

596
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: By the way they've got they've got this head hunting

597
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: mentality on defense, if you know. I don't know if

598
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: you noticed this. So Kareem Jackson got suspended again, Yeah,

599
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: which I don't I gotta be honest, Rob, he didn't

600
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: hit the guy in the helmet. It looked like he

601
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: hit him in the chest, but it was Dods last.

602
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: He was launching himself in with his helmet. That's the problem.

603
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So then I don't know who it was, Number six.

604
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: It's like third and forever dtr just like running for

605
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: his life, you do like you do in tech Bobil

606
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: and then number six just comes up and levels him.

607
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, I had Denver and

608
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: I bet money on Denver. I was like, yeah, that's

609
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: a great hit. And then you see the flag. You

610
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: know you have to wait now after like three seconds

611
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: after every play, you have to wait to see if

612
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: there's a flag. And there's a flag, and they were

613
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 2: like roughing the passer. I was like, if you watch it,

614
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: even in slow motion, you're like, what is he supposed

615
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: to do? Now? Dtr comes up and he's like spitting

616
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: up blood and like he was concussed, and they put

617
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: in PJ. Walker. And now, I mean, the Browns are

618
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: a hot mess at quarterback. Like there's some talk that

619
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is going to be the QB this week.

620
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. He was like sitting on the couch

621
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: with me and Rob like a month ago.

622
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was going to be against show we

623
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: were this close to getting Joe Flacco has a regular

624
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: guest and then.

625
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: Now he might start against t. J. Watt and the

626
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: Steelers just absolutely bonkers. I don't know, Rob. The only

627
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: other team in the five game winning streak is the Eagles. Oh,

628
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: by the way, I have this note that I forgot

629
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: to mention crazy stat insane Josh record. Josh Allen is

630
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: now his record in overtime is now Owen six. That

631
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 2: that is weird. I mean a lot of it as

632
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: to everybody will remember the Chiefs overtime playoff game, but

633
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: this one against Eagles was massive. I don't know that

634
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: that just to me is a staggery record, like quarterback record. Okay,

635
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: when you hear people bashing Herbert, Okay, I think two

636
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: interesting numbers when you just quarterback record, Well, you know,

637
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is winless in overtime, does that mean he sucks?

638
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: And Mark Allen Mark Allen, Mark Sanchez four and two

639
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: in the playoffs as a quarterback, does that mean he's awesome?

640
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: And that's my favorite stat And I joke about it

641
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: with Sanchez when he is on the herd, and like like,

642
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: I think we both agreed, like he had a nice

643
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: two year run with the Jets. Did the game managing

644
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: thing that that we just talked about with some of

645
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: the A don't screw it up, our defense a run

646
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: game and you make the right plays and we're good.

647
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: I just I don't know what the ceiling is. And

648
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: but before we get to quickly Monday night football, which

649
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't really do much for me, I didn't know Rob.

650
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 2: I'll let dealers choice. Would you rather have me wax

651
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: on about the Steelers or the Rams? Because these are

652
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: two interesting teams I think based on results from the

653
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks.

654
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'm more interested in your thoughts

655
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: on the Steelers, so only because I want to see

656
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: if you're going to backpedal off with you because you've

657
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: never been a Pittsburgh fan all season, so I want

658
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: to see where you're at now.

659
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: So my problem is I liked them coming into the season,

660
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: and I don't know if you guys remember I went

661
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: big against the Niners. I love the Steelers in that

662
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: spot and blah blah, and they got their asses handed

663
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: to them, and within like five minutes I knew I

664
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: was on the wrong side. I've gone back to him

665
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: a couple of times. It's like the girlfriend that you

666
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: just like you're dating. You know she's not good right

667
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: for you, and then you keep going back. All your

668
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: friends are like, bro, stay away, this is not healthy.

669
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: Just don't come on, and you keep going back. You

670
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: can't resist. And I was on the Steelers this weekend,

671
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: a lot of sharp guys that I respect, like the Bengals.

672
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: I was like, no, it's freaking Jake Browning. He's worth

673
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: more than a touchdown drop off from Burrow and the

674
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: Steelers fired Matt Canada, so you had like that little bump.

675
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: For the first time, the steel went over four hundred

676
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: yards since Week two of twenty twenty. Okay, over fifty yards.

677
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: First time this season. They outplayed it outgained anyone. Now

678
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: again Jake Browning has no clue what he's doing quarterback,

679
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: and go listen to last week's podcast where I was like,

680
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: you invest two hundred and seventy five mill in Burrow

681
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: and your backup has thrown one pass in his career. Really,

682
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a catastrophic mistake by the bank,

683
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: Like I had them going to the Super Bowl, you know,

684
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: but they should have got blasted here without Browning. And

685
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: it's to the point where like, all right, who else

686
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 2: we got, Like that's what I'm guessing the quarterback things,

687
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: like they had one pass completed over ten are yards

688
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: that was a hey, Jake, let's not screw this up.

689
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: They actually led seven to nothing, and then of course

690
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: the Steelers did what they do. They just grind you

691
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: into dust. Picket, don't screw it up. Make a couple

692
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 2: of plays the tight end, friar mouth is back, friar

693
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: mouth mouth whatever. And he was doing well in the

694
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: middle of the field and they open up pick in.

695
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: Najie Harris got loose. Jalen Warren didn't do much for

696
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: me in fantasy, but it was one of those games

697
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, I can see Pittsburgh doing some

698
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 2: things I'll just say this. Their coach, for whatever reason,

699
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin does such a good job of getting his

700
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: team like in the mix heading into the fourth quarter. Really,

701
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: there's only two games where they have been non competitive.

702
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: The Houston game, of course, I was on them. The

703
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: San Francisco game, I was on them, and then man,

704
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville game was close, just it was in the rain,

705
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: and it was never really a great game. But Pittsburgh's

706
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: won three or four. But here's who they beat, Rob Tennessee,

707
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: Green Bay and so I'm sorry, let's do quarterbacks, Will Levis,

708
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, Jake Browning. It's like, oof, that's a that's

709
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: a that's just a poop poop platter of quarterbacks. But

710
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 2: here's who they faced in the next three weeks. Okay, Kyler,

711
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: Marie and I've looked hard at this game already. I

712
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: didn't pull the trigger Steelers six and a half. My

713
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 2: first thing I did was look at the weather. Looks

714
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: like there could be rain, and I think in the

715
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: slop Pittsburgh should just have no problem with them. They

716
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: play Kyler, Murray, Mac Jones or Bailey's Appy, we don't

717
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: know at this point. On it looks like Thursday Night

718
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: Football Gardner Minshew Jake Browning again Gino Smith, Like Pittsburgh's

719
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: going to the playoffs. Guys, they are. They are so

720
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: mentally get ready for the Steelers in the playoffs. I

721
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: know nobody likes Pickett. Okay, I know they have a

722
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: negative point differential and they're seven to four. Cleveland's not

723
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: gonna go to the playoffs. I'm sorry to report the Browns.

724
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: It's not happening. The quarterback situation, and did you see

725
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett left the game in a sling He could

726
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 2: barely play in the fourth quarter. I did go ahead

727
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: and bet against Cleveland on the thought that Miles Garrett

728
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: probably is not gonna play. I sell your Cleveland stock.

729
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: It's over with no quarterback. They have the Rams this week.

730
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: The Rams was the other team I think is interesting

731
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: then Jack Xonville, Chicago, Houston Jets, Bengals, and I think

732
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: if they lose Rams Jacks at that point that they'll

733
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: just be too deep to lose. I think they're going

734
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: down the next two weeks. So I don't know, Rob,

735
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is like that team. I cannot quit. What would

736
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 2: do you see anything you like out of this team?

737
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: They did beat your Raiders on Sunday Night football.

738
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was what the beginning of the

739
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: end of the McDaniels era i'd look at. So the

740
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: one thing I'll say about the Steelers is I don't

741
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: think they're a good team either. But the one thing

742
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: I'll give them credit for is that they beat the

743
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: teams that they are supposed to beat. It's rare that

744
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: you find a Pittsburgh Steelers team where they have an

745
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: inexplicable loss. You know, the Eagles, They're one loss this

746
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: season is to Zach Wilson and the Jets right the

747
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes even at the height of their powers. You know,

748
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: this season, they have a loss to Denver. They've had

749
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: losses to the Indianapolis Colts. They have losses to the

750
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: Houston Texans like they are good for one or two,

751
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: just like they lost who And that's something that Pittsburgh

752
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: never does. I don't think that they have the capability

753
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: to hang with the upper echelon teams. But there's something

754
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: to be said, and it goes back to Mike Tomlin

755
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: about never letting your guard down. And as long as

756
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: they keep doing that and they take care of business

757
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: these next three weeks to your point, they're gonna be

758
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And if you get into a one

759
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: game situation in the postseason, all it takes is a

760
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: timely turnover here or there for them to win a game. Now,

761
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: it might happen where they get the turnover and can

762
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: he pick it? Gives a right back because he's not

763
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, but like you know, you could be.

764
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of teams that would kill to be

765
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, as as mediocre as they are. What

766
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give as a Raider fan to be like, hey,

767
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: we can look on our schedule and we're laying this

768
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: backup and this backup and this backup, and this second

769
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: year guy will four wins right there. Like I can't

770
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: say that as a Raiders fan. Rams fans can't say that.

771
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,319
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Speaker 2: fighting Bears. I saw I'm sure you saw this. The

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Speaker 2: favorites I have dominated this week so far, twelve and

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Speaker 2: three straight up and against the spread. If you had

812
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Speaker 2: some dogs like I did the Chargers in the contest,

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Speaker 2: who else did I have that totally whifted? Oh? I

814
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815
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Speaker 2: that didn't hit. I don't want to talk about it.

816
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no questions. I mean, my thought was to

817
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: take the Bears in this, but it's down from three

818
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: and a half to three. I don't know if there's

819
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: much fantasy impact here. I know my brother has Hockinson

820
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: and he needs like a big game out of him

821
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Speaker 2: tonight or something like that. Some people might have Madison

822
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: or Herbert. It's just not a great game. I will

823
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: go Justin Field seventeen Josh Dobbs sixteen, mild upset. I'll

824
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: be betting the Bears. I missed it at three and

825
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: a half, which isn't great, but I'll take the three.

826
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: Give me the Bears. Divisional matchup should be close, a

827
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: lot of ground game. I'm sure Field will crumble against

828
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: this defense that blitzes the hell out of him, but

829
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: he also could get loose for some big runs the

830
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: way he did against Detroit and should have beat the Lions.

831
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: Any pick out of U.

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Speaker 1: Rub I'll tell you what. I was a little hesitant

833
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: about the sides. Once the three and a half looked

834
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: like it was off the board, I wasn't really feeling it.

835
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: But the one thing I do like about this game,

836
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: and you touch that with Justin Fields, is I'm a

837
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: big fan of the over in this one. I saw

838
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: forty four was kind of the number of those over

839
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Speaker 1: ground in most shops. I think we could have, you know,

840
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: something of a shootout. I think fifty really easy in

841
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: this game, because I don't think that the Minnesota I

842
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: can evens is that good. Justin Fields is good for

843
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: at least two or three big play. He's either through

844
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: the air or with his legs. And if Justin Jefferson

845
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: does not play in this game, I think it. Actually

846
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're better without him, but it makes

847
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: the target tree much more focused on Hockinson and Addison,

848
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: and I think those are the guys who, in particular

849
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: Howkinson are gonna be able to feast against his Bears defense.

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Speaker 1: So I like the if, and that was with the

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Speaker 1: forty nine and a half, I would think the over,

852
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Speaker 1: But at forty four, I love the over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we could save it for later in the week.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to touch on the Michigan situation. I'm

855
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Speaker 2: sure you saw the game, right, Rob. Michigan and Ohio

856
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 2: State really really good game. Michigan continues to win without

857
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Speaker 2: their coach. Okay, they beat Penn State without their coach.

858
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Speaker 2: I think Penn State was top ten at the time

859
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Speaker 2: or top twelve, and then they beat Ohio State at

860
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Speaker 2: the top ten team without the coach. They're going to

861
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Speaker 2: the playoff. They're not losing to Iowa in the Big

862
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Speaker 2: Ten championship game. Okay, So then the question becomes what

863
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Speaker 2: number are they when it comes to the playoffs? Sea

864
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Speaker 2: because Georgia, we know, barring a massive upset against Alabama,

865
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Speaker 2: and they shouldn't lose this game, Georgia will be undefeated

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Speaker 2: and contesting with Michigan for one. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you guys have paid attention to college football. We haven't

868
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Speaker 2: done a lot in the last couple weeks, but Oregon

869
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Speaker 2: has gotten really good since they lost. I came to Washington.

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Speaker 2: I remember it because my son was at a chess

871
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Speaker 2: tournament and I was watching the game on my phone,

872
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Speaker 2: and I thought Oregon was out playing them. They just

873
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Speaker 2: kind of fumbled in the red zone. They had a

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Speaker 2: missfield goal at the end of the half. They tried

875
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Speaker 2: to they tried to take some points, and then they

876
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Speaker 2: blew it up and they got no points. I think

877
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Speaker 2: they had two trips inside the ten and got zero points. Like,

878
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Speaker 2: you can't have that in a big game. And it

879
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: was at Washington. The rematch is this Saturday in Vegas.

880
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Speaker 2: Oregon is a nine and a half point favorite over

881
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Speaker 2: undefeated Washington, and that surprised Rob when I told them

882
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Speaker 2: I was seven and a half, got up to nine

883
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Speaker 2: and a half, I saw ten. I think that's a

884
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Speaker 2: little too much of people took Washington. Let's just say

885
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Speaker 2: nothing wacky happens, Oregon wins. Texas is a big favorite

886
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Speaker 2: against Oklahoma. We know that's a rivalry game, could get dicey,

887
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Speaker 2: but let's just say that Michigan and Georgia are undefeated.

888
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Speaker 2: Is there a case for Michigan to get the one?

889
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Speaker 2: Because if they get the two and they gotta place Oregon,

890
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Speaker 2: that is way way tougher. That's almost like a toss

891
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Speaker 2: up game then it is if you have to face Texas,

892
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Speaker 2: which doesn't have the respect that Oregon does. And I

893
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Speaker 2: wonder rob my question. By the way, Georgia is a

894
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Speaker 2: five point favorite against Bama and the SEC title game.

895
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Speaker 2: Do you think Michigan would get any leniency or maybe

896
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 2: that's not the right word, maybe any a bump if

897
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Speaker 2: they are battling Georgia for the one? Would the committee

898
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Speaker 2: lean to Michigan getting the one over Georgia because they've

899
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Speaker 2: done so well without their coach, and you know, their resume,

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Speaker 2: it's at least on par with Georgia. Georgia hasn't done anything,

901
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Speaker 2: they haven't played anybody. Do you think they're more likely

902
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Speaker 2: to screw Michigan and stick them with the two or

903
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Speaker 2: give them one and the easier playoff game against Texas.

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Speaker 1: That's a fascinating question, and I wish that we had

905
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Speaker 1: more time to dive into it because I don't, you know,

906
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Speaker 1: at the end of the pot, it's kind of difficult.

907
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Speaker 1: NFL Monday, Yeah, I'd have to think that because the

908
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Speaker 1: College Football Playoff is an ESPN product, that Georgia would

909
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Speaker 1: get the bump to be number one, in Michigan will

910
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Speaker 1: be number two. But even then, I mean, I can't

911
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Speaker 1: say for sure that on a national stage, Michigan wouldn't

912
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Speaker 1: outrate Georgia because, oh yeah, because it's a national brand

913
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Speaker 1: and more because this whole scandal has made them relevant

914
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Speaker 1: in the eyes of only the most casual college football fans.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I could see how they would have

916
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Speaker 1: a bigger number, But because it's ESPN, the SEC big

917
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Speaker 1: bias that direction. So I think that Georgia would still

918
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Speaker 1: get number one.

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Speaker 2: Interesting with the ESPN bias, I think you're right though,

920
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Speaker 2: that Michigan in number. I don't think it's out yet,

921
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Speaker 2: but it's expected to be absolutely colossal. Not quite Washington.

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Speaker 2: Dallas on Thanksgiving, which I think I saw was the

923
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Speaker 2: third highest rated anything on TV this year, after like

924
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: the super Bowl and something else. People cannot get enough

925
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Speaker 2: of the Dallas Cowboys and Thanksgiving. All Right, that was

926
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Speaker 2: a lengthy pod. Maybe Rob, maybe we get Brad Powers

927
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Speaker 2: to talk to come on the pod this week. He

928
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Speaker 2: was a great college football guest we talked to in August.

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Speaker 1: He's good.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's seef we can get him or someone else. Also,

931
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Speaker 2: some coaching movement in college football, but we're not gonna

932
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Speaker 2: get into it now, but interesting stuff happening on the

933
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Speaker 2: CFB front. NBA I kind of took the weekend off,

934
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Speaker 2: did not see much other than chet homegun plan out

935
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Speaker 2: of his mind. We'll get to back on the NBA

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Speaker 2: beat this week, but I hope you had a great,

937
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Speaker 2: safe holiday break and we'll be back tomorrow. Talk to

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Speaker 2: you then,