1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Fox Football Sunday underway. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: It is Week fifteen of your National Football League season. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: Weather. Yeah, it's cold. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Out there in some of these places, as we'll have 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: some precipitation along the way, some big games as we 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: jockey for playoff position. Not only in the real world, no, no, no, 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: plenty of that, but plenty in your fantasy worlds as well. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: I know off of Thursday's game, a lot of. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: Handwringing, a lot of vexation going all the way back 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: to an early touchdown from the Buccaneers. Not exactly the 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: principles that we thought that we would see in terms 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: of that, right Sean Tucker of Syracuse getting it done. 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: But as we get ready for a big week with 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Mike Harbott alongside NFL Films forty six years, the NFL 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Matchup Show and all of the work that he does 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: each and every week, he joins Colin Coward for fifteen 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: to twenty minutes of really a good breakdown as you're 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: gonna get. Colin calls it his best fifteen minutes every week. 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: It's at Greg Cosell in the Twitter verse. We get 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: after it again, Greg, ready for another fun and exciting week, 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 2: storylines all over the place. 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know the storylines are fun, Mike, But 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: we'll do some football, and you know you're talking about 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: the weather. We're getting some snow here in South Jersey. 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: I had to come in early today. I was a 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 4: little afraid I wouldn't make it, you know, so if 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: I fall asleep, you'll just yell at me or something. 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 4: You know, I've been here for a bit. 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: I got plenty to yell about. 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we got all sorts of stuff off the 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: football rader. I mean I could do two hours on 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: John Cena tapping out to Gunther in his final match. 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: I mean, we've got it all. 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: We've got craziness from the college football world. 36 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to talk about a. 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Full holiday holiday holiday's worth of information and intrigue, as 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: well as maybe some holiday miracles, which we'll get to 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: it a bit. But yeah, it's certainly a look big 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: slate of games. We started with the Thursday Night thriller. 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: We go all the way through with some divisional battles, 42 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: some giant question marks, and many happy returns. 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: We talk about. 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: I mentioned Sina's departure from the WWE in the active world. Well, 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: today we'll see if your theory. And my brother threw 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: this line out. He loves your work, and he goes, well, 47 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: you know, Greg has talked about Joe Flacco being able 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: to fling it till he's seventy, Greg, we test that 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: today as Philip Rivers gets off the couch, out of 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: the coaching box from his high school and hanging out 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: with all his kids, He's got a big road test 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: as he gets activated against what is one of the 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: best defenses in football in. 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: The Seattle Seahawks. 55 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: But one of those Christmas miracle kind of things like 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: Carol Brady what she got her voice back, what she 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: wanted to sing in church? 58 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: Well, I guess so we're hoping for a Christmas miracle 59 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: if you're the Colts. But you know, it's funny. We'll 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: get to that game obviously, because the Seahawks. I know 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 4: that that Philip Rivers is a good storyline. But the 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: Seahawks are a really good football team, and you know, 63 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 4: so we'll get to that game, you know, obviously a 64 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: little later. But I don't really know what to say 65 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 4: about Philip Rivers. He hasn't played in five years. 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna pull a bunch of highlights, but 67 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: I figured I didn't have silver in my beard the 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: last time he was slinging touchdowns around. But we'll test 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: that theory about guys the age and their arms still 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: being live. 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: But let's go back to Thursday night. 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Let's talk about another veteran quarterback who had himself a day. 73 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 5: He is wide to the riot with Pitts and Sales 74 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 5: over there, Robinson and mooning here to the near side. 75 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: Snapped the Cousins Tampa brink suppressor, go throwing for the 76 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 5: end zone. It's pets, get me hold on through, give 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 5: me a signal, fellas, touchdown at Lada. 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: There you go. 79 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: Where we go back to Thursday night, A big night 80 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: for Captain Kirk. He finds Kyle Pitts, not once, not twice, 81 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: three times, guy who's been on the radar as why 82 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: can't they on Corgan well against the Tampa defense and 83 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: with no Drake London, Kyle Pitts comes up big but 84 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: against the Tampa d And we talk about Tampa and 85 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: what they've looked like the last month or so here, 86 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: even with some of those weapons coming back. We saw 87 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: the frustration in the post game, but we'll stick to 88 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: the Atlanta side of this. 89 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: Captain Kirk may have thrown himself into another job. 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. After that game happened, I just 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: reminded me of last year. You may remember this. They 92 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: played Week five, I believe it was on a Thursday night, 93 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: and Cousins threw for over five hundred yards against that 94 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 4: Bucks defense. So I don't want to say he has 95 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: the number of Todd Bowles defense. I was kind of 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: surprised when I watched the tape because you don't get 97 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: a great feel for this watching the game on TV, 98 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: or I don't anyway, but I was kind of surprised 99 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: that I didn't feel like Todd Bowles was whipping out 100 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: and dialing up as much pressure as he normally does. 101 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: He tried to do so on that final drive two 102 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 4: or three plays in a row, but it just seemed 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: like there were more four man D line pass rushes 104 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: as opposed to the pressure that we're so used to Todd 105 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: Bowles deploying, especially with defensive backs, so Kirk was pretty comfortable. 106 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: I thought the old line did an excellent job for 107 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: the Falcons in pass protection, and they played a good 108 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 4: part of the game with twelve personnel, my two tight ends, 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: which they play a high percentage of anyway, but certainly 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: with London out. I mean, who would have thought going 111 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: into the game that if you had to play Sills 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 4: and Mooney as your main wide receivers in twelve personnel 113 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: and then when you go to eleven personnel with three 114 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: wide receivers, Dylan Drummond becomes your third wide out. I'm 115 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 4: not a lot of I'm sure not a lot of 116 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 4: people thought that that would produce the results that it did. 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question about it. 118 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: You look at a Cousin's thirty and forty four three 119 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: seventy three and three, just one sack. And that's the 120 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: other thing is you know you mentioned you know David Sills, 121 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: he finishes and he has that huge twenty one yard 122 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: reception on the final drive, but he dropped what was 123 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: a forty six yard touchdown pass that. 124 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: Yes he did, and that that play on the final 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: drive was a really good throw by Cousins. I mean, 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: obviously it's fourth and fourteen I believe it was. Yeah, 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 4: so you have to make a throw. I mean, you 128 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: can't sit in the pocket, you can't throw it for 129 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: four yards. You can't throw a check down, but that 130 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 4: was a whole shot versus cover two, and a whole 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 4: shot means it's the outside void in the coverage. And 132 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: that's not an easy throw, but it's a throw you've 133 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: got to make in that situation. It's a critical, high 134 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 4: leverage situation. You don't make that throw, you go home 135 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: and you lose. And so Kirk and Kirk obviously he's 136 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: been playing a long time. He knows situational football extremely well. 137 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 4: And No, it was, it was. It was a big 138 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: time throw. And you know the thing is that was 139 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: fourth down, but Cousins was very efficient on third down 140 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 4: as well, and normally that's a down you think of 141 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: Todd Bowles and all the pressure schemes, and in this 142 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 4: game they weren't as effective. 143 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: Third down efficiency. 144 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: They were five of eleven making big throws, big plays, 145 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: putting themselves in great positions. Kyle Pitts has himself the 146 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: day of Davis eleven of twelve, one hundred and sixty 147 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: six yards, three touchdowns. We mentioned it off the jump, 148 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: No Drake, Drake London. So you're looking at Mooney, Sills, 149 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: et cetera. You didn't exactly get a lot of production. 150 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: I equated it while we were on air. It's like, 151 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: it's got to be the box and one. There's the 152 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: two guys. You gotta figure out, you gotta figure out 153 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: how to stop. But Jon Robinson, he goes for one 154 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five total yard. Yeah, and his score, 155 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: and then you'll pits running free in the secondary. But 156 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: if you can't get any natural pressure on Cousins, plenty 157 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: of time to throw. 158 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: And boy did he have himself a day. 159 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. And Robinson. I'm glad you mentioned Robinson. I mean, 160 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: I've been on record as saying and again, it's not 161 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: a mathematical equation. It's not like saying two and two 162 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: is four. So it's a fun discussion to have. I 163 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: think Jon Robber and since it's the best back in 164 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: the league, and you know, in watching this tape, because again, 165 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: the thing you notice immediately is how often he's detached 166 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 4: from the formation, essentially as a wide receiver, either in 167 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: the slot or split out wide. Twenty percent Mike of 168 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: his snaps this year he's been split as a detached player. 169 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: Think about that for a back. That's a very very 170 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: high percentage. So he can be deployed and certainly with 171 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: London not available, Robinson essentially in certain situations becomes just 172 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: another wide receiver. 173 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 2: Gotta say, Greg, that's got to be the worst feeling 174 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: in the world when he comes and lines up in 175 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: the slot or out wide, because he's going to break 176 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: your ankles. And we saw that on Thursday night several times, like, 177 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: all right, he's got him at the line, No he doesn't, 178 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: because there he goes at one shift and he's gone. 179 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, just an incredible game on that side, and 180 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: we get the final second field goal. We can go 181 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: into game down and distance about going forward, the two 182 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: point conversions and all all of that. In the end, 183 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: Raheem Morris despite nineteen penalties, Yeah, a full football field 184 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: worth of penalty yards more than the Buccaneers. They walk 185 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: off with a one point win. Baker Mayfield once again 186 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: under duress much of the day nineteen of thirty four 187 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: to seventy seven two and the pick Bucky Irving. As 188 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: I said for fantasy owners a last, he did not 189 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: get that goal line touch early, finished with sixty yards 190 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: on the ground, just one catch for eleven yards, and 191 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: that's where I circled things. You know, we get the 192 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: huge return from Mike Evans greg with his six for 193 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: one thirty two, but his frustration huge in the post 194 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: game of you know, a fifteen point lead that gets squandered. 195 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: Abuka quiet return McMillan, but for a half a half 196 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: a yard we would have talked about a happy return 197 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: for him, but for Bucky Irvin not being part of 198 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: the passing game really one of those curiosities. 199 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. The return of Evans does 200 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: help Thembviously, It's not as if they couldn't score. They 201 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: had twenty eight. What Evans does he brings back that 202 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: one on one matchup outside the numbers, back into the 203 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: Bucks passing game because he's, you know, a boundary X. 204 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: You know, he's that single receiver who can win one 205 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: on one as he did a couple of times. We 206 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 4: saw that forty five yards on the go route versus 207 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 4: the backup corner Bryan, twenty yards on the quick fade 208 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: versus Terrell. Those happened in the third quarter. The thing 209 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: is Baker had great success throwing on first down. He 210 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 4: was ten for seventeen for one hundred and ninety five yards. 211 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: Seventy percent of his passing yards came on first down, 212 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: which is a very high number. But on that final drive, 213 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: he missed Ibuka on an open crosser and it was 214 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: second and fourteen with just over two minutes remaining. You know, 215 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: that's just a throw. It was really a pitch and 216 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 4: catch throw. That's a throw that you know, normally he 217 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 4: would probably make that throw ninety nine out of one 218 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: hundred times, and he missed it. He was open, and 219 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: he threw it behind him. And then obviously the next place, 220 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 4: third and fourteen, and you know they come with some 221 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: pressure and the Falcons actually busted the coverage, but he 222 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: just didn't have time to get the ball to Durham 223 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 4: who was wide open. 224 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, to seventy seven in this one. The prior four 225 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: weeks he'd been well under two hundred yards in each 226 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: of those. So sputtering, and now you leave things up 227 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: for the taking of your Carolina Panthers. Later on today, 228 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: we'll get into that game because we actually could positively 229 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: talk about Tyler Shuck, who gets to play spoiler and 230 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: perhaps decide the NFC South. 231 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: How about that. I didn't see that on your Bengo card. 232 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. That becomes a big game now, 233 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: obviously a very big game in Carolina got Who would 234 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 4: have thought that. I mean, it's we'll get to that game. Obviously, 235 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: that's a tough one to figure. 236 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: Well, Dave Canalis making the most of his well, I 237 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: mean you look at him, and we talk about Liam 238 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: Cohen as well, two guys that Baker helped and that 239 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: reciprocity in terms of getting them to the next level 240 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: as head coaches, and they're thriving this year and right now. 241 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Baker needs to lean back into them for 242 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: a little bit of advice here down the stretch. He's 243 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: great coach Sale at Great Coach Sales. Where you find him? 244 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: Find me over at Swollen Dome. We're just getting warmed up. 245 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: Full slate of games. Talk about that NFC South matchup, 246 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: But coming up next, the soft underbelly has been exposed. 247 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: The final blow could be had today in a chilly environs. Yeah, 248 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: it's a home game and they're gonna need everything to 249 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: avoid elimination. 250 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: Who we're talking about we'll tell you next. 251 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: But for the best pregame show every weekend, obviously, besides 252 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: this breakdown, be sure tune in Fox Sports Radios. 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He's grinding weeks week for you. 284 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: It's Greg Cosel at Greg Cosell, find me over at 285 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Swollen Do on the iWatch Flex podcast throwing darts at 286 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: the Fantasy World is up. 287 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: Dan Byer and I do that each and every week. 288 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: Ian Roddy, our. 289 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: Producer, gets into the defensive metrics a little bit to 290 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: find you some extra juice in your lineup so you 291 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: can go download that wherever you get your podcasts as well. 292 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: So we've got all that cooking. 293 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: But later on today Greg and it's in the early windows, 294 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: so we're gonna see it early on. Patrick Mahomes and 295 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs trying to stave off elimination. 296 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 6: Mahomes to throw four man rush. 297 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 8: Mahomes unloads outfield and tipped and intercept it as these 298 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 8: Outsire has it up the deflection. 299 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: Another pick for the game for Houston. 300 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 6: Wow, Chelsea could. 301 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: Not hang on as he's got it hot potato. 302 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: Pick the hot potato. 303 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: That has been the story of the day for some 304 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: of the Kansas City season. Here Greg in a nutshell 305 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: that game. Three picks overall, you still have Patrick Mahomes 306 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: with a ninety one point two rating on the year, 307 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: but three picks in that one. A lot of folks 308 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: already have the straight out of wicked where they've got 309 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: the ready to burn it in effigy Patrick Mahomes or 310 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: a Chief's logo or whatever to try to vanquish the 311 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: defending conference champs. But today they get a big one 312 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: because there's lots of other subplots as the Chargers come 313 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: to town. Justin Herbert off the surgery last week, they 314 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: had to keep rebandaging that blood soaking through Jim Harbaugh, 315 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: equating it to the birth of his children, his marriage, 316 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: and everything else as to how great and how heroic 317 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: he was. But for the Chiefs five and a half 318 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: point favorites forty one and a half the total man 319 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: Mahomes has been fantastic. He continues to be betrayed by 320 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: his supporting cast. 321 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the interesting thing about the Chiefs offenses. 322 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: Mahomes has had the most dropbacks of any quarterback in 323 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: the league, and that kind of tells you where they 324 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: are with their run game, with the exception of one 325 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: game a number of weeks ago, when I believe Kareem 326 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: Hunt has thirty carries in a game where they ran 327 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: over ninety offensive plays, which is very rare in this league. 328 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: They don't really run the ball with much volume at all. 329 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: So he has, as I said, the most dropbacks in 330 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 4: the league. And we know this week they're going to 331 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: be missing pretty much almost their entire offensive line, it seems, 332 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: I think the only I think there's only two starters 333 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: playing this week. I think it's Sue matteat left guard 334 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: and Humphy Creed Humphrey at center, and the other three 335 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: will be backups against a good defense, by the way, 336 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: So this is going to be a very intriguing matchup. Obviously, 337 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 4: these teams played Week one, that was a long time ago. 338 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 4: Charges won that game. But the Chargers have a number 339 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 4: of players on defense who are kind of very multiple 340 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 4: and how they can be deployed. So this is a 341 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: very intriguing matchup. What's the weather today, Mike meteorologists harmon 342 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: what's the weather? 343 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: Act get our NFL weather app up as we roll through. 344 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: We're looking at a narrow win right now at sixteen degrees, 345 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: which means the wind chill coming into a fact here 346 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: as well, but not much of a win to knock 347 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: down the ball. So he'll be able to throw it 348 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: deep with the curiosities because they stop the Chargers run 349 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: with the two headed back. Yeah, and I go by 350 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: Dell and with Hampton coming back. But yeah, certainly for 351 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs and that offensive line. Look, Jesse minters on 352 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: everybody short list and the odds either for Michigan or 353 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: for an NFL head coaching job, so this is one 354 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: for the resume as well. 355 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 4: Greg's Yeah, like I said, they've got a lot of 356 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 4: good players on defense. You know, they're one of those teams. 357 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 4: The big trend in the league this year and a 358 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: lot of defenses are having success. They've been doing it 359 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: for a number of years. Is what we call big 360 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: nickel mike, where you basically play three safeties. It's almost 361 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 4: your base defense and your nickel defense. And obviously Derwin 362 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: James is one of the most versatile players in the 363 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: league at that position, so you know that's the way 364 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 4: they'll play. But they have other players. Henley is a 365 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: very good linebacker. Diane Henley. Probably not a lot of 366 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: people know about him. You're on the West coast, so 367 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: you're probably more familiar with him than a lot of 368 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: people here on the East coast where I am. But 369 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: he's a very very good player. Twoy Polo two is 370 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: a really really good d lineman who can play at 371 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 4: D end and at D tackle. We know Khalil Mack 372 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: can rush the quarterback. How will they handle the pass rush? 373 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 4: Is this going to have to be a Mahomes game 374 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 4: where he makes a lot of plays outside of structure, 375 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: which it seems to me watching the tape chart every 376 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: one so maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me 377 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: he's been doing that more and more this year than 378 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 4: he has in any previous year, and we know that 379 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: he's very very good at that. 380 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: That will have to be their leading rusher again, most 381 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: likely on the Chargers side. Offensively and mentioned the running 382 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: backs and really taking up to try to keep Justin 383 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: Herbert from having to drop back, even though they called 384 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: a bunch of run plays for him last week, like 385 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: get down, get out of bounds, you're gonna get blown up. 386 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: You more hits than anybody. 387 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: He left the pocket a lot. I think as far 388 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: as called runs, they weren't as many as I think 389 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 4: as people thought. He just scrambled a number of times 390 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: because he's just super competitive. And you know, look, I 391 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: think guys once they play, you know, they're not thinking 392 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 4: about any injury they have. They're just out there playing. 393 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: And we know Herbert's a super high level competitor. But 394 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken, they only called two or three 395 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: runs that were actually designed runs. But he scrambled a lot. 396 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: Don't forget. They have a line issues as well because 397 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: they're playing backup tackles, so you know, and the Chiefs 398 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 4: can be very good on defense. It hasn't been exactly 399 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: the same this year with the Chiefs defense, but they're 400 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: still good and they can still be very good any 401 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 4: given week. 402 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big question here. 403 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: Can they stop the run game, slow it down and 404 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: make the Chargers have to pass because, as you mentioned, 405 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: the backup offensive both teams with lineman woes, no question 406 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: about it. But we've seen the civ like barrage that 407 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: you can get on Herbert, no question a lot about it. 408 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: So trying to protect him, and I think he was 409 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 2: just wise and going, hey, I've been back here and 410 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: I've been a sitting duck. I'm going to be a 411 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: little more active with my legs and be proactive. Positive yards, 412 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: positive yards. We talk about sacks, we talk about giving 413 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: up yardage and making positive plays out of things. 414 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: And I know it was Week one, but it's still 415 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 4: it's a head to head and coaches look at that, 416 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 4: you know, very carefully when they do their game planning, 417 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: because coaches end up coaching against coaches. So you remember 418 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 4: Herbert had that run to kind of seal the win 419 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 4: when Chris Jones went too far inside in that Week 420 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 4: one game, So Herbert, Look, Herbert had a very very 421 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 4: good athlete for a man that size. That's a factor 422 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: in their offense. 423 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: Go back all the way. I remember that slide. 424 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: And then immediately the cameras did a good job of 425 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: getting the Chiefs defensive front kind of getting after each 426 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: other in terms of assignments and lane responsibilities, et cetera. 427 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, certainly a little bit of a callback, there, 428 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: no question about it. As we continue going through the slate, 429 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: let's go to another huge game. We've got the Buffalo 430 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: Bills go out against the New England Patriots. How about 431 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: a little bit of Josh Allen if we can. He pumps, 432 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: he pros, he's got tuxdown, he's got Jackson Hawes. 433 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: A little bit of Jackson Hawes. 434 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: I thought that was better than the forty yard scramble 435 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: because you know, we don't have the in helmet camera, 436 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: at least we're not privy to it. I think they exist, Greg, 437 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: I think it's there so that you can always say, okay, quarterback, 438 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: what'd you see and when he lies, you go, oh, yeah. 439 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: We got the tape. 440 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: But for the Jackson Hawes touchdown, huge effort for the 441 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 2: Bills against the Bengals a week ago. Now you have 442 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: this divisional battle. They're a narrow favorite on the road. 443 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: Congratulations to Josh Allen and Hailey Steinfeld as they're expecting 444 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: a child over under forty nine and a half in 445 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: this one. Greg, let's go back to our handy dandy 446 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: weather app as we go down the road, because we're 447 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: gonna be hey, we actually have some outdoor games. Like 448 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: last week, it's like, oh, there was weather in a 449 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: bunch of cities, Like ah, they're all domes. 450 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. 451 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 2: As we look at this one, you got potential for 452 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: some snow winds coming out of the northwest at about 453 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 2: seven to nine miles off. 454 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: That's nothing. That's nothing. The question is, Mike, are those 455 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: domes swollen domes or just domes? 456 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 3: Now they're just domes? 457 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 6: Okay, nothing. 458 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: Nothing tops the size and scope of this noggin. 459 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: This is a fascinating game. I mean, obviously, you know, 460 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: the the Bills are a really interesting team. They've got 461 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 4: a lot of young players on the defensive side of 462 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 4: the ball that are sort of growing into playing defense. 463 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 4: You know, the hope being that they'll become impact players 464 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: as they play. Cole Bishop's had a good season. I 465 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: really liked him coming out of Utah. You know. Obviously, 466 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 4: Dean Walker, who was a fourth round pick out of 467 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 4: Kentucky I remember, and he's had a very nice year 468 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: for them this year. Again, a player that looks like 469 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: he could develop into an impact d tackle. I remember 470 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: watching him his next to last year in college and 471 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: just the size and the movement. I thought, with a 472 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: really good final year, we'd be talking about him as 473 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 4: a first round pick. It just didn't quite work out 474 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 4: that way. They got him in the fourth round. He's 475 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 4: had a nice season. The guy that's really been you know, 476 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: it's sort of the fountain of youth has been Shaq Thompson. 477 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: He plays every snap. It seemed like he played in 478 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 4: Carolina about thirty years ago. 479 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, but he's had a really. 480 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: Nice season for them. And I guess Joey Boss do 481 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 4: back today after missing last week. Last week, they really 482 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: struggled on third down and that's something they'll have to 483 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: get cleaned up today. Obviously, Joe Burrow is terrific at 484 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: seeing things. One thing Sean McDermott does as well as 485 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: any defensive coach in the league, and it's becoming another 486 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: trend in the league is changing the picture pre snap 487 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: to post snap. That's becoming a very big deal in 488 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 4: the league and John mcdermot's done it extremely well for years. 489 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: The Bills will have to play better, I think, on 490 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: defense today than they did last week. Obviously, they got 491 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: those two big plays last week which turned the game around. 492 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: If you're the Bills, you say that, you know, coming 493 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: up with big plays at the right time. If you're 494 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: just watching the game, they feel kind of fluky, but 495 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: you know, hey, sometimes that's the way it works in games. 496 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 4: And Christian Benford, their corner has been ruled out, so 497 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: they're going to be playing Maxwell Harston and Tradavious White 498 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: at corner pretty much for the whole game. And we'll 499 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: see how that plays out. 500 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about it a lot. 501 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: Shack Thompson in his eleventh year, you know, the old age, 502 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: aged myself by the gray and my beard and forget 503 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: about guys and the Yeah, it's year eleven. 504 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 4: He remember, do you remember he played running back some 505 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 4: running back in college. 506 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 3: I mean he was one of those guys all those 507 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: years ago. 508 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, still dial him up every once in a while. 509 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's the curiosity. As we look ahead. 510 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: You got the Patriots on the other side. Drake May 511 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: one of the leaders in the clubhouse for the MVP considerations. 512 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: Twenty three touchdowns against six picks. He's absorbed forty sacks. 513 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: That's the number that stands out. You know, that growth 514 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: and negative plays, but they've been able to overcome to 515 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: this point. Greg and this is where Bosa comes in 516 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: so huge a plus one ten point differential on the 517 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: year for the Patriots with the two headed monster out 518 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: of the backfield and then Stefan Diggs leading the way 519 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: amongst a bevy of wide receivers. Booty's been strong at points, 520 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: Hunter Henry's had a nice year at times. But the 521 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: past distribution, you've got the one in Diggs, but Drake 522 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 2: May doing a good job of distributing the ball. 523 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think one question, you know, with bos 524 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: of being back, and then one area where I think 525 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: the Bills would feel like that they need to be 526 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 4: effective is the pass rush with four because you're going 527 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: to have a backup left tackle playing with Will Campbell out, 528 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 4: so it might be Vederian Lowe who is starting at 529 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 4: left tackle. We'll see how that goes. So that's an 530 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 4: area where I think the Bills are going to need 531 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 4: to have some success, whatever that means. Don't forget it's 532 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 4: not always sacks. If you can make Drake May play 533 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 4: a little faster, speed him up, because one thing and 534 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 4: watching the tape of May, and obviously he's been very 535 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: good in so many areas that you don't necessarily expect 536 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 4: second year players to be good at. He's been outstanding 537 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 4: on third down, he's been out of stay versus pressure. 538 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 4: But you just want to try to speed him up 539 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: a bit and get him to have to play a 540 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: little faster the other side of the ball. This is 541 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: a good defense that that New England has. They're fundamentally sound. 542 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 4: They've got some solid players, They've got two good corners. 543 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 4: It's a good matchup. This is a really, really good matchup. 544 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: You know, there's been a lot to talk about New 545 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: England being a better team than Buffalo. I mean, you know, 546 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 4: sometimes it's not just the players, you know, just looking 547 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: at a roster per se, but it's you know, how 548 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 4: a game plays out. You know, Josh Allen obviously can 549 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 4: make special plays, but you know what, May has shown 550 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: the ability to do some of that this year as well. 551 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: Now that's it, right, It's all about that closing time. 552 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: This is one that'll be fun. We've seen Allen last 553 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 2: week had to put the cape on in big spots 554 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: and then they the defense stepped up as they needed 555 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: it a couple of times against Joe Burrow, which led 556 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: to his sullen midweek conversation. So why don't we stay 557 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: in the go jump to that game. Baltimore Cincinnati. Baltimore 558 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: a narrow favorite. We've talked a lot about the offensive 559 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: sputters that they've had over the course of the season. 560 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: A lot of handwringing. 561 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: I think Harbaugh to a degree is happy that everybody 562 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: wants to focus on Mike Tonlin's job and they're leaving 563 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: him alone. 564 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: At the moment, right fifty one and a half is 565 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: your total? 566 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,479 Speaker 2: Lamar looks compromised Derrick Henry other than a couple of 567 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: spurts over the course of the year, Greg, I think 568 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: Father Time might be catching up a little bit to 569 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: where we're at in terms of deploying him, because he 570 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: also doesn't really factor into the passing game, which you know, 571 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: you don't have that safety valve for Lamar that way. 572 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: So it's just that difficult proposition for Joe Burrow. He 573 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: had that mid week week speech to where you know, 574 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: that's all becomes a matter of interpretation. Some good laughs 575 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: from Jamar Chase. Does he want out of Cincinnati? Does 576 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: he just want change? Folks thinking that he was gonna 577 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: walk away That guy didn't do the rehab. 578 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: He just did to want because he doesn't like football. 579 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: Come on, yeah, you know, look, it gives people something 580 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 4: to talk about it all that. It's an interesting game 581 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: because they just played a couple of weeks ago, as 582 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: you know, that was Burrow's first game back. And you know, 583 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: Burrow is just so good at recognizing things. He sees 584 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 4: things both pre snap and post snap. I remember the 585 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: touchdown he threw to Yoshavas, which was just a great 586 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: chess match play. I actually broke that play down in 587 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: the Matchup show this week because I thought it was 588 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: just a terrific snapshot of the Ravens d and the Bengals, 589 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: oh and Burrow and the chess match. And that's the 590 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 4: stuff I love about football. As you probably know. You know, 591 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: this defense for Baltimore has played better over the last 592 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 4: month or so, and the Bengals offense has become a 593 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: little more balanced because Chase Brown has become more of 594 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: a factor. And I know there's been a lot to 595 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 4: talk about Lamar and the offense, and Lamar has just again, 596 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: you know, I'm not in his head, but he's just 597 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 4: missed some throws over the last month. I can't speak 598 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: to the nature of the injury, if that's a factor, 599 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: but he's just missed a lot of throws that we 600 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 4: would call layups, pitching catch throws, which he normally over 601 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: these last number of years, just never does and he's 602 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 4: been doing it, and I don't have a reason why 603 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: but it's there on the tape, and you know he 604 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: just doesn't look to be as comfortable a player as 605 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: he has for you know, almost into game in the league. 606 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: Talk about borderline, the yips if he was a second 607 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: baseman somewhere, go back to Yeah, we'll do it this morning. 608 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: How about a little Chuck no block reference for your 609 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: Sunday morning together? 610 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: Oh boy? 611 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 612 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, thirty two fourteen was the 613 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: final of that one Ravens and Bengals and Joe Burrow 614 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: and you mentioned Chase Brown six straight games where he's 615 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: gone over one hundred and tovey yards, so getting him more 616 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: activated in the past game. They'll be without t Higgins 617 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: boys again, so more Yoshivash for the win along time 618 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: alongside Jamar Chase. 619 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 4: They were without Joshabats in that game two weeks ago 620 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 4: as well. Mitchell Tinsley played a lot of snaps, so 621 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 4: I'm sure he'll be out there as well. We'll see 622 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: this is look, obviously it's a huge games. It's at Cincinnati. 623 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: What's the weather there, my. 624 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: Man, Let's go. 625 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: Let's take a look your acurate weather report here on 626 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: a beautiful Sunday morning, resplendent. I can't do what that 627 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: viral sensation's doing with the angry mentions of reeds where 628 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 2: people are flirting with her. But if you want to, 629 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, at Swollen Dome, let me know. Wins 630 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: eight to ten miles an hour, twelve degrees and clear 631 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: though twelve degrees we got you know. 632 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the twelve degrees myself, 633 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: but I don't have to play in it or sit 634 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 4: in it. But you know, when there's no wind, I 635 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 4: think at least the quarterbacks probably feel like they can 636 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: throw the ball. 637 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: That's it. 638 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: You can at least cut through that and get some points. 639 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: Fifty one and a half is the total. So expecting 640 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: some fireworks there, no question about it. As we continue. 641 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: Still some big games, one where they're gonna be playing 642 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: essentially on a rock. 643 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. It's on the lakefront. 644 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: A couple of teams battling at at young quarterbacks now 645 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: being pitted against each other, might as well put them 646 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: in the squared circle. 647 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: We'll do that as we continue. 648 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: For over forty years, Tyrack's been helping customers find the 649 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: right tires for how, what and where they drive ship 650 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: fast and free back by free road hazard protection with 651 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tyrerac dot com. 652 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be. Listen to the next segment. 653 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: It might decide what you do with your fantasy squad. 654 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: He's great, co Sell, I'm by Carbon and this is Fox. 655 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 656 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 657 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 658 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: listen live. Now we're talking some classics. Tell me you 659 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: don't start bopping along in your chair. Be thinking about 660 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: Chropole Gold Locales. Maybe you're getting away for the holiday 661 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: holiday holiday if you are out and about at Swollen Dome, 662 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: tell me those holiday destinations. What you're thinking about and 663 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: what this memory invokes. For me, it's my mom cooking 664 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: a lot and yelling at us and throwing things at us. 665 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: Get out of the kitchen, Get away from that. Yeah, 666 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: Mike Carb with Greg co Sell with you. 667 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:22,719 Speaker 6: There you go. 668 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: I just had a flashback. 669 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: That was one of those post traumatic stress disorder moments 670 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: for me. 671 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 4: They're great. I understand it because to this day I'm 672 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: not allowed in the kitchen. I walk in the kitchen 673 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 4: and my wife says, what are you doing here? You know, 674 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 4: so I'm not allowed there myself. So I get it. 675 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I do most of the cooking, so 676 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: I occasionally will do the snap thing myself, and then 677 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: I recognize that. I remember, It's like no, no, no, come 678 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: on in, you got you gotta taste test this. Ultimately 679 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: you're consuming. But yeah, certainly a flashback coming out. There 680 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 2: plenty of games as we go through the slate that 681 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: are highly intriguing. 682 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: We'll get to them. We'll get to Philip Rivers and 683 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: his return. 684 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: I had expectations there, But we go down to the Lakefront. 685 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: We've got Cleveland and Chicago. First, let's take the visitors. 686 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit. Shador Sanders and the Browns 687 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: are a two point conversion away from Tye. 688 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 6: In this game. 689 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: Clearly they did not get that two point conversion. I 690 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: think Mark and I were looking to commiserate on the 691 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams near miss. We'll get to that on the 692 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: other side of the coin here in a second. Greg 693 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: But Shador Sanders then not on the field for the 694 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: two point conversions. Talking heads converge and scream at each other. 695 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 2: But for shaudor a week over week we're seeing some 696 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 2: big plays, the mobility and tucking the ball. His touchdown 697 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 2: run was a work of brilliance and patience and waiting 698 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: for things to develop, and we're seeing him push. So 699 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: now he's been named the starter for the rest of 700 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: the year. Harold fannin junior come one of the top 701 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: fantasy options at wide at the tight end position. Wide 702 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: receiver Jerry J. Judy's been reactivated a little bit. No 703 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: one joke you today. Dylan Sampson as well. You got 704 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: some issues all their offensive line. That's one of the 705 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: things we can talk about for most teams at this point, 706 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: how many will play out of the five that you 707 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: normally see, and then we play whack a mole in 708 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 2: terms of the injury report. But for sure, Sanders Greg 709 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: acquitting himself quite nicely the last couple of weeks. 710 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we have two games now of Shador. 711 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: The first game we saw that he struggled quite a bit, 712 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 4: which I think most people who watch the tape would 713 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 4: tell you that sure, and then in the second game, 714 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: I thought he played extremely well. I thought he made 715 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 4: some really strong timing anticipation throws, through the ball with 716 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: really precise location, saw things clearly made some throws under 717 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 4: pressure where the pocket was squeezed, which is really important 718 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: for his game because even though he does have functional mobility, Mike, 719 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 4: he's not necessarily a playmaker. You know, you're not going 720 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: to think of him as a Mahomes arn Allen or 721 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 4: a Jackson, but he does have enough movement ability, but 722 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: he's really a pocket quarterback at his core. And I 723 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 4: thought that, you know, when I finished watching that tape. 724 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 4: And by the way, Tennessee has played well in some 725 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 4: games this year defensively, the Nard Wilson is a very 726 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 4: good coordinator. That's a team that just doesn't have a 727 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 4: lot of talent, but he does some good things that 728 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 4: make it hard at times for quarterbacks. And I thought 729 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 4: your Door handled himself really really well, and he played 730 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 4: extremely well in that game. 731 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 3: They continue to fight. 732 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: Obviously, it's not in the purview of what we do 733 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 2: here talking about the film and what you see between 734 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: the white lines, But be remiss if I didn't bring 735 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: up the fact that, you know, cam Ward's still trying 736 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 2: to hold them to a massive standard. They get a 737 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: w and then on the team plane, you know, you 738 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: had one of their defensive players say, hey, celebrate this, 739 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: and it got reported by a guy that was. 740 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 3: On the charter. 741 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: He won't be on the charter more after letting that out, 742 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 2: as it were, So remember freedom of speech. 743 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 3: Just watch what you're saying. 744 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, awards in an interesting situation. And then 745 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 4: you know, I've watched every one of his games. Obviously, 746 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 4: you have to understand he's playing behind an offensive line 747 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 4: that's argue will be one of the five worst in 748 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: the league when it comes to pass protection, a lot 749 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: of players with high pedigree who just haven't performed to 750 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: the needed level. And then he's playing with two rookie 751 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 4: wide receivers, a rookie tight end, and you have a 752 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 4: rookie quarterback obviously, And the thing that has made it 753 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 4: really difficult is because until last week they really have 754 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 4: not run the ball well at all. He has the 755 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,959 Speaker 4: fifth most dropbacks of any quarterback in the league, Mike, 756 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 4: and that's the last thing you want with a rookie quarterback. 757 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 2: Absolutely insane. We remember that Tony Pollard is out there 758 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, not be out there again. 759 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 4: Ball last week they did, and they actually went heavy 760 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: with six ozero linemen quite a bit with what we 761 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 4: call five man surface where there were five players lined 762 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 4: up to one side of the center. So they really 763 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 4: went heavy, they really made a commitment to running. It 764 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 4: worked last week. They obviously played the Niners this week. 765 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 4: I know we want to get back to Chicago momentarily, 766 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 4: but they played the Niners this week. We'll see what 767 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 4: their game plan is. But it's just been a tough 768 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 4: situation for Ward, who obviously has been uneven, been up 769 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 4: and down. But for the people who think at this 770 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 4: point in time that oh, he's a bust, that's just 771 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 4: this very silly thing to say. 772 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I also just love the fact that he's got 773 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: the competitive fire he's try how he hold it to 774 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 2: a standard, which is good. 775 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 4: I've been around him and believes he's a great kid, 776 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 4: and he's definitely got competitive fire and the desire to 777 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 4: want to be great. 778 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to that Bears side. Let's 779 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: hear that Caleb Williams once again, let me read fours than. 780 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 5: One, Chicago take the sweat, good legg you left Williams 781 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 5: looking floats the. 782 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: Ends seven exact. 783 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 7: Let ourception leaping in our sception by Kee Shotton NETSI. 784 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 4: Mzer Is. 785 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: There you go. 786 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 2: I hate the word dagger coming off of Wayne Laravie's lips, 787 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: especially when it's my team on the other side. 788 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 3: Bear's fight in the second half. 789 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: Not enough, but that play has been decided, dissected every 790 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: which way till Sunday. What'd you think of Caleb against 791 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: the Packers a week ago? 792 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 4: You know, Caleb is one of those guys that's very 793 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 4: uneven throughout the course of a game. He just misses 794 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 4: throws that he has to make, but he makes outstanding 795 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: throws as well. I mean, and he this past week 796 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 4: we saw it again. He made two outstanding throws on 797 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: the move on the TD drive on the first third 798 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: quarter possession when he hit Commet for twenty six yards. 799 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: I'm sure people remember that one where he's racing to 800 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 4: his right and then the key ist one yard touchdown. 801 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 4: You know that that was just a ridiculous throw. And 802 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 4: then you know on the final fourth quarter possession before 803 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 4: the interception, he hits Burden for twenty seven yards. Another 804 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 4: big time throw he is. 805 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: He's said, we'll pick this up on the other side, 806 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: Greg As we finished Hour two, coming next, Granny's a 807 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 2: welcome in our two of the program, we get it 808 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: pop in here. Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmon, 809 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 2: Greg Cosel with you. We got weather all over and 810 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 2: we now have the Weather channel on and they're showing 811 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: New York City snow falling. Looks like that wet stuff 812 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: that sticks and becomes a problem. So be careful out 813 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: there on the highways and byways. 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Greg, we were gonna so rudely interrupted by 822 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 2: the stinger, right, such a salient point about Caleb Williams 823 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 2: and what we saw in that final drive that culminated 824 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: in the interception. 825 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 3: So let's let's pick up where we left off. Action 826 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 3: already in progress. 827 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just thought, you know, it's funny. 828 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 4: So much of this is opponent based, and I think 829 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 4: sometimes people forget that. They want to evaluate, you know, 830 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 4: each quarterback each and every week. You know, just play. 831 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 4: You see one play, Oh my god, he's great. One 832 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 4: play he's not great. You know, Sometimes it's the opponent. 833 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 4: The Packers. Jeff Hafley does a phenomenal job with late rotations, 834 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 4: his own coverage concepts. I thought he did a terrific 835 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 4: job minimizing the intermediate between the numbers throws that are 836 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 4: foundational to Ben Johnson's offense, you know, But Caleb overall, 837 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 4: there's a lot to like, and he throws a great ball. 838 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 4: There's no question. He just has to become and I 839 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 4: hate to use the word consistent and so overused, but 840 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 4: he just misses too many throws that are clean and 841 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 4: ideally he just continues to get better at that. 842 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 2: Bit by bit we watch it. They've got the sandwich 843 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 2: game today against Cleveland. If you want to go full Nerd, 844 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,720 Speaker 2: you go Admiral Akbar. 845 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: It's a trap. 846 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 2: It might be minus ten is what it's gonna feel 847 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 2: like there on a rock hard surface. Always the top 848 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 2: three or bottom three, depending on how you're ranking things 849 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 2: in terms of worse fields to actually play on. Congratulations Chicago, 850 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: that bring back memories for you. 851 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 4: Mike. 852 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, that's it. I'm soft now. I would 853 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 2: be wearing two pairs of sweatpants. I'd be rolling in 854 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: with as many hand and foot warmers as I possibly could, 855 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 2: thick boots, man, I might have the gore tex jacket 856 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 2: that Jason Alexander warre on Seinfeld before. 857 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 4: But of course there'll be some people out there with 858 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 4: no shirt on, and you know, hopefully they survived the day. 859 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: That's it. 860 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 2: Be smart out there, you know, just because you're a 861 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 2: little warmer because of something maybe you've ingested, you know, 862 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 2: the old cinnamon hot dam that they used to give 863 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 2: me when I'd travel to Madison, Wisconsin as a Northwestern fan. 864 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 2: It's like, you're gonna need this not only because it'll 865 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 2: keep you warm, but because by the fourth quarter it's 866 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 2: gonna get ugly. 867 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 868 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 4: I never quite understood all that, but I guess I 869 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 4: don't have to understand that. 870 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 3: No, that's it. You just you sit, you nod, you go, 871 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: that's not me. 872 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 2: And then you throw another long on the fire, refill 873 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 2: your coffee or whatever your beverage, your choice, ites and 874 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: you move on, but that an interesting game for the Bears. 875 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 2: Later on today, another big one as we look across 876 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 2: the board as a whole, the division rivals, they got 877 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: the win. 878 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 3: Last week. 879 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers travel out to Denver, a couple 880 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 2: of defenses getting after it. We look at Jordan Love 881 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 2: versus bo Nicks forty two and a half the total 882 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 2: Packers a narrow road favorite Vegas. Still in the public, 883 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: still not full believers in what Sean Payton and company 884 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 2: have done. But let's start with the Jordan Love side 885 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 2: of things, with full compliment of receivers back and ready 886 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 2: to go. Josh Jacob's a bit compromise with the knee 887 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: actually is backup. Wilson is banged up a little bit 888 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 2: as well. 889 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I mentioned a moment ago 890 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 4: that you have to look at each game as a 891 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 4: specific matchup event, and we saw that last week. You know, 892 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 4: I spoke earlier about more teams playing what we call 893 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 4: big nickel with three safeties, and do it to Kyler 894 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 4: Gordon being out and now essentially being done for the season. 895 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 4: I guess, you know, if they make the playoffs, I 896 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 4: guess he could be back. I know they just put 897 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 4: him in ir He's their slot corner and a very 898 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 4: good one. So what they did last week and they've 899 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 4: been doing, is they've been playing big nickel since they 900 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 4: got CJ. Gardner Johnson. And you saw last week matchups. 901 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 4: It's about matchups. If you're going to play big nickel 902 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 4: and play man coverage, then you're going to end up 903 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,959 Speaker 4: versus three wide receivers, having your big nickel safety match 904 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 4: up man to man on a wide receiver. And we 905 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 4: saw that with one of the Watson touchdowns. So you 906 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 4: know comes down to match up football at times, not 907 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 4: every play, but there's times you can exploit that. You 908 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 4: know the play I'm talking about that quick abso that 909 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 4: Watson took to the house. So you get into match 910 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 4: up football. And you know that's one of the drawbacks 911 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 4: of playing big nickel that if you do play man, 912 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 4: let's say on third down or second and long, and 913 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 4: you want to and it's against eleven personnel three wide receivers, 914 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 4: you can get stuck sometimes. But that's the trade off. 915 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: Garter Johnson becoming one of those full heroes in Chicago, 916 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: everybody already looking for a big extension. I think he 917 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: becomes the latest in the guy if you don't like 918 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 2: when he's on an opponent because he's an agitator, a talker, 919 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: all of those things. But when he's your guy, see 920 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 2: Aj Prasinski, Dennis Rodman as previous Chicago examples that suddenly 921 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 2: he becomes that much. 922 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 3: Hey, that's my guy, because he's not a. 923 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 4: Funny because not only on that forty one year touchdown 924 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 4: to Watson, but also on the Packers' touchdown drive in 925 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, he was on Reed who ran across 926 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 4: a crossing route and beat him. So you know, like 927 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 4: I said, that's you have to live with that. If 928 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 4: you're going to play man and in your big nickel, 929 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to live with it, you know. And 930 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 4: sometimes it works and every once in a while you 931 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 4: get beat, But if that's how you're going to play, 932 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 4: you know, you're going to have to live with it. 933 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've always keep your minding, folks. 934 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 2: As much as I can celebrate the w's, and I 935 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: do every last one of them, doesn't mean you and 936 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: you're not realistic. They still give up twenty six points 937 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 2: per game, they still let you drive up and down 938 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 2: the field, but they've generated twenty seven turnovers that's going 939 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 2: to be the big part against a banged up Browns 940 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 2: offensive line today and maybe Shudur being generous with the 941 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 2: football and. 942 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 4: And you know, getting back to the Packers, they're obviously 943 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 4: playing against a very good defense. 944 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 6: Yep. 945 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 4: The Broncos are really good. They they're fast, they can 946 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 4: rush the quarterback. They've got good players in the secondary. 947 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 4: This will be you know, again, I don't know what 948 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 4: what's the weather in Denver. We haven't done that. 949 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 2: We're bringing it up right now on wins are negligible 950 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: and as of now it's saying it's going to be 951 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 2: sixty three degrees and clear. 952 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 4: Oh my god, how about that, it's going to be balmy. 953 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 4: It's short T and T shirt whether they're out there, Mike, Yeah, no, that. 954 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: Was one as you're looking at all the games, like 955 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: all right, circle that one, circle that one. All right, 956 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on that for Sunday morning. Nope, 957 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that there. 958 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 4: Greg. 959 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 3: Just make sure you put some sunblock on because it's well. 960 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. That should be a fun and 961 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 4: late game. Man. I'm looking forward to that one because 962 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 4: you know, I'm one of those people Mike and I'll 963 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 4: be the first to admit it. You know, I know 964 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 4: a lot of people love games in the snow and 965 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 4: all that. I like to see games where the athletes 966 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 4: can perform to their highest athletic level. That's just who 967 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 4: I am, you know, it's you know, I'm not a 968 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 4: huge hockey fan. But when hockey changed the game, you know, 969 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 4: and I don't know all the rules, but they changed 970 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 4: it so the games faster and there's less mucking it 971 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 4: out in the corner. Then I really became you know, 972 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 4: I enjoy hockey more because you see these guys go 973 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:43,919 Speaker 4: up and down the ice. 974 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 3: What the guys skate? I always argued for the Olympic 975 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 3: size rink. 976 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so that's just me. I know, yeah, 977 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 4: that's just a personal opinion and there's no right or 978 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 4: wrong there. But that makes me really more excited now 979 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 4: to see that game as one of the late games today. 980 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 3: See there you go. 981 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 2: And if you are excited and angry at him at 982 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 2: Great co Saliz, where you find him, you find me 983 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome. 984 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 3: Well maybe read those a little later on. 985 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: With the iHeartRadio apps, stream us wherever you happen to be, 986 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 2: catch us all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live 987 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven in the new and improved iHeartRadio app. 988 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio and the app stream us live 989 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 2: all day every day, and be sure to select Fox 990 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 2: Sports Radio is one of your presets in the iHeart app, 991 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 2: so it always pops up at the top of your screen. 992 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to another one of the games 993 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 2: later on today we've got because we can do this 994 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: one fairly quickly. Arizona has gotten great work from Jacoby Brissett, 995 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: right McBride and he and Wilson. They've done it without 996 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior on the field. But today they've got 997 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 2: to try to navigate the best defense going in the Houston, 998 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 2: Texan CJ. Stroud and company. While the numbers haven't been robust, 999 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 2: no Nick Chubb for them. Today it's Woody Marks and 1000 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: a lot of Nico Collins. Higgins has been a more 1001 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 2: consistent option as well. But Arizona, I've got a couple 1002 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 2: of folks that work around the is like they're just 1003 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 2: frustrated watching what the offense is able to do but 1004 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: not being able to finish the job. 1005 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've talked a lot about Houston, Obviously they 1006 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 4: are a team that could easily make the playoffs, they'll 1007 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 4: be in the division hunt now. Their defense is just 1008 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 4: so good, and I think the one thing that just 1009 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,720 Speaker 4: quickly to talk about with them, I think their defensive 1010 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 4: tackle group doesn't get talked about enough. The focus is 1011 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 4: always Anderson and Hunter, deservedly so. But inside they are very, 1012 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 4: very good. They've gotten outstanding play so it's very hard 1013 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 4: to double people. You know, teams have to start chipping 1014 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 4: on the outside, you leave one on the ones inside 1015 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 4: they are really good. And I know I've said this before, 1016 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 4: I'll just say it one more time. I think Kalin 1017 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 4: Bullock's been the best post safety in the NFL this year. 1018 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 3: No question about it. Talk about that. I'm building the 1019 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 3: wall of mean. 1020 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 2: Eventually it's going to be you know, people do T 1021 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 2: shirt quilts. My daughter's working on one from all the 1022 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 2: concerts that we've gone to, Greg and you'd be happy 1023 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 2: with a lot of the entries there when we're talking 1024 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 2: about Paul Simon and Paul McCartney and a bunch of others. 1025 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have my wall all of mean, of all 1026 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 2: nothing but nose tackles and defensive tackles. 1027 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 3: You a big concert guy, Mike, Oh, huge, huge, as 1028 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 3: many as I can get to, brother, Wow. 1029 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 4: Wow. So yeah, you're a big music guy. Yeah, I 1030 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 4: don't go to as many as I did years ago. 1031 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 4: But you know, hey, but I love music. You know, 1032 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 4: I have no musical talent, but I love music and 1033 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 4: I love to read about it when I go to 1034 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 4: Barnes and Noble. That's it. 1035 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 2: And again the celebration cupcake. If you run into Great Coachell, 1036 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 2: you got a question. I got to pay tribute with 1037 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 2: the celebration. 1038 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 4: Cupcake, had one yesterday. 1039 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 3: That's my guy. It's my guy. 1040 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 2: Barnes and Nobles actually on my list of things I 1041 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 2: need to do later on today because I've got a 1042 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 2: bunch of readers on my list for the holiday holiday. Holiday, 1043 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 2: so we'll be taking care of that. Maybe I'll get 1044 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 2: a cupcake in your honor. 1045 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 3: How about that? 1046 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 4: There you go. You can't go wrong with the celebration cupcake. 1047 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 2: Never Never was celebrating Week fifteen of your National Football 1048 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 2: League season. How about we get one more game in 1049 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 2: all the chaos that is Philadelphia. They already got rid 1050 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 2: of that rabbit that was there for four days. We 1051 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 2: saw the interception from Jalen Hurts to close that one out. 1052 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 3: Let's hear it. 1053 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 6: Fourth Perts in the shotgun. A touchdown would win it 1054 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 6: for the Eagles. Kerts pulls it Rose. 1055 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 9: Intercepted, game over, intercepted, game over, game over. The fourth interception, 1056 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 9: Tony Jefferson unbelievable, unce does it see. 1057 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 2: I was going to start by saying, hey, it's a 1058 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 2: matchup of Super Bowl quarterbacks, So that hit the rewind 1059 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: on that one. But Matt money Smith and Kfi here's 1060 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 2: six forty our teammate over at a five seventy LA 1061 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 2: Sports and Petroster in the afternoons on the call there. 1062 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 2: But we saw the best and most explosive game that 1063 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,959 Speaker 2: we've seen from Saquon Barkley in a while. 1064 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 3: Greg, you down the stretch. He didn't touch the ball well. 1065 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 4: The second half was strange in the sense that the 1066 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 4: Eagles didn't have the ball very much. Obviously the turnovers. 1067 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 4: But I will say this, and I said it all week. 1068 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 4: I thought this was the best game that the Eagles 1069 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 4: played in turn of their past game concepts, and I 1070 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 4: think it's absolutely something to build on. Obviously, Hurts is 1071 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 4: not going to throw four interceptions every week. He never 1072 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 4: does that, And and interceptions. You have to look at 1073 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 4: each one separately. We're not going to go reach one obviously, 1074 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 4: but I thought in terms of what they did with 1075 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 4: their their route concepts, their route combinations, defining the reads 1076 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 4: and throws more cleanly. For Jalen Hurts, he made some 1077 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 4: very very good throws in this game, better than we 1078 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 4: had seen previously. So I think if you're an Eagles fan, 1079 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 4: you should be a little optimistic going forward. 1080 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, even on that drive, the out route that he 1081 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 2: threw to Goddard along the sideline just before that was 1082 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: a great throw, great great throw and catch, So they 1083 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 2: go back there. 1084 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 3: You get the tip drill. 1085 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 2: Jefferson finishes the job, and now we have the game 1086 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 2: against Vegas eleven and to play half point favorites. 1087 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 3: This one seems like you run it through. 1088 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 2: But the fact that we get to add another starting 1089 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 2: quarterback to our laundry list for twenty twenty five and 1090 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, I feel like I win the Bengo card 1091 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 2: because we're getting the sixty Greg before it's done. 1092 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 4: Well, you meant, you know, it's funny you mentioned him 1093 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 4: late in the game. He made a big time throwing 1094 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 4: overtime to DeVonta Smith's for twenty eight yards. I just 1095 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 4: thought that there were really good throws in this game 1096 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 4: that came from really good concepts that really helped him 1097 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 4: see it more clearly. And like I said, and empty formations. 1098 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 4: They went empty fifteen times in this game, and that 1099 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 4: the most they've done all season. And I'm sure you 1100 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 4: know you know what empty does. It stretches out the defense. 1101 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 4: You can clear the picture for the quarterback pre snap, 1102 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 4: so you know, I think they're moving in the right direction. 1103 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 3: Give him some bigger windows to throw. 1104 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 2: Lots of being made there, and certainly if they're even 1105 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 2: in a game in the fourth quarter, the Philly Faithful, 1106 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 2: we'll let them know it because that is a home game. 1107 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 3: As we go down the well. 1108 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 4: Right now, it's snowing here in Philly by the way, 1109 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 4: well out Jersey, but supposed to stop around ten o'clock 1110 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 4: Eastern time. But then it's supposed to be twenty five 1111 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 4: to thirty mile hour winds, so that should be a 1112 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 4: fun one. 1113 00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 6: Mike. 1114 00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 3: There you go. 1115 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 2: He's at the weather update, Greg co Cell in front 1116 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 2: of the teleprompter and with the green screen behind him. 1117 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 2: He did the whole thing about fronts and everything you 1118 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 2: have to see that dance and that two step another time. 1119 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 3: We got plenty of games left to go on the slate. 1120 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 2: Couple of big ones, especially one in the late window, 1121 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 2: a fifty four and a half total is out there. 1122 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 3: And one of those where there's still a bunch of unrest. 1123 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 2: And one of the formations that you've talked about a 1124 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 2: lot that's starting to get some other national run and acclaim. 1125 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that as we continue at Greg co 1126 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 2: Celle where you find him the NFL Matchup Show, NFL Films, 1127 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 2: and of course one o'clock Eastern time every Thursday, alongside 1128 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 2: our teammate Colin Coward. Here across the network, you get 1129 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 2: the visual and what Colin calls his best fifteen to 1130 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 2: twenty minutes each and every week. Hey, be sure to 1131 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 2: subscribe to the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Search Fox 1132 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 2: Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see the best videos from 1133 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 2: all our shows. Don't stop there, hit that thumbs up 1134 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 2: icon and comment away. Let us know who's taking and 1135 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: even whose takes you don't. Search Fox Sports Radio on 1136 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: YouTube and subscribe. Coming up next a big NFC battle. 1137 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 3: He's great. Go Sell and Mike Carmen in this as fin. 1138 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1139 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 1140 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 1141 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 1: listen live. 1142 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back in some technical wizardry, Chris Purfett getting it 1143 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 2: done alongside our guy Brandon Deutsch. Yeah, Mike Carmen and 1144 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:44,240 Speaker 2: Greg co sell through the resplendid nature upgrade in vocal 1145 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 2: technology as we get ready for the close of our 1146 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 2: show here today, we got another forty minutes of massive 1147 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,760 Speaker 2: action leading into countdown to kickoff, presented by bet MGM. 1148 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 2: Nice workfellas and for those unaware, you don't need to know, 1149 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: but we tried to give folks love on the air. 1150 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 8: There you go. 1151 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 2: When we get some things done, We've got action on 1152 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 2: the pitch. Yesterday we had the Heisman Trophy. We got 1153 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,479 Speaker 2: plenty of time before we have to evaluate those guys 1154 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 2: for draft purposes. 1155 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 4: But by the way, mister Mendoza, do you hear Mendoza's speech? 1156 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 3: Great speech? 1157 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, if that didn't make you know, 1158 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 4: bring a tear to your right just for a little bit, 1159 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 4: then you're you know you're not you're struggling. 1160 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw some some good stuff of him. He 1161 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,919 Speaker 2: took some kids out of shopping spree in the morning 1162 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 2: in contor of his mom. Like, just a lot of 1163 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 2: a lot of great stuff, the best of what sports 1164 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 2: can do and humanity. Uh we we try to bring 1165 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 2: it here. It's Sunday morning. I know, folks heading to 1166 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 2: and from services, believe in whatever. Uh you know, higher 1167 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 2: power energies you've got out there, and uh you know 1168 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,720 Speaker 2: some of what he gave you was was just absolute gold. 1169 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 2: So uh, I do encourage as great says go check 1170 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 2: that out, uh in the Twitter verse online, et CETERA 1171 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 2: great speech, great campaign for Indiana. We'll watch the playoffs 1172 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 2: with rapt attention coming up here as we get rolling. 1173 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 2: And then of course Greg has all his draft evaluation 1174 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 2: and go back in the archives find the twenty five version, 1175 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 2: but already starting to get his data points and everything 1176 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: loaded up for twenty twenty six. 1177 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 3: Can't wait to go through that process with you as well. 1178 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:20,439 Speaker 6: Greg. 1179 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and you know it's funny. I get toward 1180 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 4: the end of the NFL season, I get real excited 1181 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 4: to start watching the college guys because obviously I can't 1182 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 4: do that during the regular season like some other guys 1183 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 4: can because of my NFL work, but get real excited 1184 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 4: because it's a whole different process, Mike. You know, during 1185 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 4: the NFL season, I'm very, very focused on tactic schematics. Yeah, 1186 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 4: I look at players obviously, but you know, I'm not 1187 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 4: breaking down, you know, all the left guards in the NFL. 1188 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,919 Speaker 4: Whereas I get to the draft and it's a whole 1189 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 4: different mindset, which really I kind of enjoy. It's just 1190 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 4: a whole different feel and I love it. 1191 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 3: Different draft evaluation. 1192 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 2: We'll get into all of that as we get closer 1193 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 2: towards the culmination of this NFL campaign at Great go 1194 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 2: Sell where you can follow him along follow me at Swollendome. Hey, 1195 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 2: every goal starts with an assist on and off the field. 1196 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 2: That's why Haley On and US Soccer they're launching for 1197 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: the Assist, a celebration of everyday acts of support and 1198 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 2: help to help people achieve their goals and iconic brands 1199 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 2: involved like Censidine, Tom's, Voltaran, Advil, and Centrum. 1200 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 3: To learn more, go to haley on Assist dot com. 1201 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 3: That's h A. L. 1202 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 2: E O. N Assist dot Com. Now back to the 1203 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 2: business of the NFL for today. Later on we've got 1204 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions in your La. 1205 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 6: Rams. 1206 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 2: That's one of the big games on the slate for 1207 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 2: us as we get ready, fifty four and a half 1208 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 2: is your total that'll be out here in Los Angeles. 1209 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 3: So no worries about weather. 1210 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is technically not a dome stadium, so if 1211 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 2: there's lightning, we have had lightning delays before, So people 1212 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 2: get a lot of sorts with that, Greg because they 1213 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: do have the open ends. No expectations here because it's 1214 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 2: been eighty degrees where I live most of the last week. 1215 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 2: But RAMS is six point favorite and something you hot 1216 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,959 Speaker 2: spotlighted weeks ago. The three tight end offense some set 1217 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 2: starting to get a little more run as we watched 1218 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: the Rams on their quest to get Matthew Stafford an 1219 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 2: MVP and another Super Bowl run. 1220 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,479 Speaker 4: It's I still find it fascinating. I actually spoke about 1221 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 4: this on my Matchup show with Darius Butler and Sal 1222 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 4: Palell and just I don't recall a coach making such 1223 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 4: a dramatic change. It was week seven when Sean McVay 1224 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 4: decided that, you know what, I'm going to play with 1225 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 4: three tight ends. I don't want to say as the 1226 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 4: main foundation, but I would say since week seven might 1227 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 4: probably more than thirty five percent of their offensive snaps, 1228 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 4: maybe even forty percent have come out of three tight ends. 1229 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 4: And I did some of the numbers this week. And 1230 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 4: normally the way I work is I watch tape and 1231 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 4: what I see, I'll see things and then I'll say, oh, 1232 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 4: let me check that with the metrics. You know, I 1233 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 4: don't start with the metrics first. I always start with 1234 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 4: the tape first, and then I just started doing some 1235 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 4: work on the numbers. Have been so good at a 1236 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 4: thirteen personnel meaning one back in three tight ends, especially 1237 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 4: on first down. It's been crazy how good they've been 1238 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 4: in the run game and the pass game. And this 1239 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 4: past week, by the way, was the first time that 1240 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 4: Puka Nakua played as the only wide receiver in their 1241 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 4: three tight end package. Prior to this week he did 1242 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 4: not play in the three tight end package, and he 1243 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 4: caught a pass for thirty two yards. But it's been 1244 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 4: fascinating to me. You don't normally see that kind of 1245 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 4: a dramatic change by a coach during the you know, 1246 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 4: in the middle of a season. 1247 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 3: Particularly if you're winning. 1248 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 2: Greg Yeah, yeah, right. Otherwise it's a break glass in 1249 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 2: case of emergency. How do we keep our guy upright right? 1250 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 2: It's funny because a guy that we'll talk about in 1251 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 2: a minute, that's gonna be one of the big questions. 1252 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 2: But for this matchup for the Rams, they go against 1253 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 2: a very depleted back seven for the Detroit Lions. 1254 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 6: Here. 1255 01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the offensive side of things have really been ronicle. 1256 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 2: John Morton, you know, had big shoes to fill. You 1257 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 2: talk about Dan Campbell, all of that from from the 1258 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,919 Speaker 2: offensive side, But defensively, I just don't know that there's 1259 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 2: enough there against this Rams offense. 1260 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, with Ryan Branch being out really good football player. 1261 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 4: You know, they play a lot of base defense anyway, 1262 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 4: because they like to keep the three linebackers on the 1263 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 4: field because Derek Barnes not a big name. People know 1264 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 4: Angeloni and Jack Campbell, but Derek Barnes is a very 1265 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 4: versatile player, can play on the ball, off the ball. 1266 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 4: They're probably gonna play a ton a ton of base 1267 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 4: defense against the three tight ends. But the back end 1268 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 4: they can still throw the ball, and who knows. You know, 1269 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 4: every game is different, and I think that's what the 1270 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 4: great the great offensive coaches do is they're not wetted 1271 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 4: even though they played a ton of three tight ends. 1272 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 4: Maybe this is a week they go more three wide 1273 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 4: because of the injuries on the back end for the Alliance, 1274 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 4: you just never know. They obviously have some pretty good receivers. 1275 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 4: I don't know if they get at well back today. 1276 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 4: I think he's been activated. I don't know. I think 1277 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 4: I saw that, but certainly with the Coop and Adams, 1278 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 4: so they're pretty good. 1279 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 2: Certainly have to take care of that and try to 1280 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 2: slow down that run game as well. On the Detroit side, 1281 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm on Ross Brown battled back a lot of questions 1282 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 2: ahead of his last time. 1283 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 3: Players it. 1284 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that guy's just now the big question for them 1285 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 4: will be past protection. We know that GoF who can 1286 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 4: be very very good. Obviously he's a little more of 1287 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 4: the old school quarterback, the kind of guy that needs 1288 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 4: to be protected. Throws it really well when he is 1289 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 4: sees it well. But that gram defensive front is very 1290 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 4: very good. Can they protect when you get into those 1291 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 4: must pass situations? 1292 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 2: At great co sell where you find in the NFL 1293 01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 2: Matchup Show weekly with Colin at one o'clock Eastern time 1294 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 2: here on the network and of course FS one you 1295 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 2: can see the visual component of that as well. Now 1296 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna step over to the newsdest get an early 1297 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 2: update on what's going on in our universe, including some 1298 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 2: injuries that we're watching. As kickoffs approach with our guy 1299 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 2: Dan Bayer at Dan Byron where you find him. 1300 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 3: Hear him later on this afternoon's part of Red Zone Radio. 1301 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 8: How you doing, Dan, Good morning, guys, Doing well and 1302 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 8: the answered Greg's question, Yeah, to too at Well, not 1303 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 8: that it was a question much as to confirm it. 1304 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 4: Too. 1305 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 8: Too at Well was activated off ir back from that 1306 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,919 Speaker 8: hamstring injury for that Rams Lions game that you talked 1307 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 8: about in the late window, the new primetime game in 1308 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 8: that late window, though definitely in Seattle as everybody wants 1309 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 8: to see Philip Rivers and the Colts take down the Seahawks. 1310 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 8: Rivers expect to get the start later on today against 1311 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 8: the Seahawks. He was activated from the practice squad yesterday. 1312 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 8: ESPN reports that the Colts and Daniel Jones of ed 1313 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 8: talks and the we'll have talks this upcoming offseason on 1314 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 8: a new deal. He had surgery on Tuesday for that 1315 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 8: ruptured achilles gonna need six to eight months to recover. 1316 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 8: Texans running back Nick Chubb won't play against the Cardinals. 1317 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 8: Today dealing with the rib injury. Hacker's running back Josh 1318 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 8: Jacobs expected to play in Denver. He's been dealing with 1319 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 8: a sore knee all week. Didn't practice on Wednesday or Thursday, 1320 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 8: but did get in a limited workout on Friday. Should 1321 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 8: go against the Broncos. Another great game in that late 1322 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 8: window Eagles tackle Lane Johnson. He's not going to play 1323 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 8: to day against the Raiders, but NFL Network says he's 1324 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 8: targeting a return neither week sixteen or week seven week 1325 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 8: seventeen from that list Frank injury. You guys talked about 1326 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 8: it earlier for Nanda Mendoza winning the Heisman. The quarterback 1327 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 8: from Indiana did so in convincing fashion. Vanderbilt quarterback Diego 1328 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 8: Pavia finished checking in balloting. Spurs will face the next 1329 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 8: in the NBA Cup Final in Las Vegas on Tuesday, 1330 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 8: this after San Antonio handed Oklahoma City just their second 1331 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 8: loss of the season last night, winning one eleven to 1332 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 8: one or nine in Las Vegas. Some late college hoops 1333 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 8: number eight Kenzaga a winner against number twenty five UCLA 1334 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 8: as the squad's played in Seattle eighty two to seventy two. 1335 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 6: Guys back to you appreciate you. 1336 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 2: Dan, have a good call. Later on today, I know 1337 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 2: the Seahawks in your window. You get to chronicle the 1338 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 2: exploits of one Philip Rivers. 1339 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 6: It is the must watch game for sure. 1340 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 8: And it's crazy because it's a really good late window 1341 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 8: today and that just rowse from the bottom all the 1342 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 8: way to the top. 1343 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 6: Despite the spread of what it is. It should be 1344 01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 6: fun to. 1345 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 2: Watch thirtina and a half Dan and Kerry Roads later 1346 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 2: on at Dan Byron Fox where you find it. 1347 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 6: Thanks Dan, Thanks guys. 1348 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 2: All right back with us here. It's Fox Football Sunday. 1349 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 2: Mike Carbon, Greg co sell with you. That's the game 1350 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 2: we go to next. Seattle thirteen and a half point 1351 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 2: favorites Philip Rivers. My indecent proposal. If we're gonna go 1352 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 2: down this road. Marcedes Lewis was an emergency pickup by 1353 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 2: the Broncos a couple of weeks ago. 1354 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 3: How about he goes in. 1355 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 2: He becomes another pass protector for Philip Rivers against Seattle 1356 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 2: and what they have on the slate going forward, his 1357 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 2: over underd for passing yards Greg has won fifty three 1358 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:31,919 Speaker 2: and a half. 1359 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 4: Well, this may not be the defense that you really 1360 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 4: want to have your first started, not really for five years. 1361 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 4: You know, this is a defense that plays big Nickel. 1362 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,840 Speaker 4: We've spoken about that. That seems to be one of 1363 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 4: the themes of our conversation this morning. 1364 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Nickel Show of Record. 1365 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's right, that's right, Nickymn WARRII the rookie from 1366 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 4: South Carolina has been a really good player for them, 1367 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 4: And they rushed the quarterback. They don't blitz a ton, 1368 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 4: but they rushed the quarter back extremely well. This is 1369 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 4: a high intensity, high level energy defense. They compete, they pursue. 1370 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 4: They've gotten phenomenal play from DeMarcus Lawrence, but they have 1371 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 4: the Leonard Williams, they have Byron Murphy. This is a 1372 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 4: really really good defense. They got Julian Love back last week. 1373 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 4: You know, I just I don't know. I don't know, 1374 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 4: I really don't know. Look, the bottom line is, I'm 1375 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 4: going to tell you right now, I loved Philip Rivers 1376 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 4: as a player. I he was one of my favorite 1377 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 4: quarterbacks just pre snap post snap, super tough in the pocket. 1378 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,520 Speaker 4: But the reality was, and this is just purely from 1379 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 4: tape his last year in the league, he just couldn't 1380 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 4: throw it very well. And again, I don't know if 1381 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 4: what happens with five years of not playing at the 1382 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 4: NFL do you come out and throw it better? I 1383 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,439 Speaker 4: don't know the answer to that, but I just hope 1384 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 4: against this defense. I mean, they've got a great third 1385 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 4: down defense. They're second best in the NFL. Seattle. It's 1386 01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 4: not the matchup you want, Yeah. 1387 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 2: No question about it. I'm actually looking at a betting site. 1388 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 2: They actually have a requested special that is quote called 1389 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,919 Speaker 2: quote crimea River and it's his passing yards and over 1390 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 2: one and a half interceptions under a point five passing 1391 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 2: tds and the Seahawks to cover that thirteen and a 1392 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 2: half point spread, you can get that at plus sixty fifty. 1393 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 2: I got to imagine it's you try to just put 1394 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 2: this one away as fast as you can with a 1395 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 2: lot of Walker and charbon Ay. 1396 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, look, obviously, you know they're going 1397 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 4: to try to, you know, score early, quickly and get 1398 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 4: ahead and make it a situation where Philip Rivers has 1399 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 4: to drop back. You know, Mike McDonald's terrific on third 1400 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 4: down when they play dime. He's very multiple with his 1401 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 4: front and looks and the pressure looks not necessarily blitz, 1402 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 4: but pressure looks and He dictates protection with his front presentations, 1403 01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 4: and then he has a great understanding of how to 1404 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,200 Speaker 4: break down those protections because you can dictate pass protection 1405 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 4: by how many you line up on the ball, because 1406 01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,920 Speaker 4: you've got to account for people. If you're an offense, 1407 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 4: you can't say, well, gee, I don't think Mike Harmon's coming, 1408 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 4: even though he's sitting right there as a defensive lineman. 1409 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 4: You know, I don't think he's coming. You can't say that. 1410 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 4: You got to account for him. 1411 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 2: Nominee for the NFL twenty twenty five Salute to Service 1412 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 2: Award for his background and related efforts. Luke Rhodes is 1413 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 2: your long snapper for the Colts. That's who I'd be deploying. Hey, 1414 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 2: fill up your lining up ten yards away right right. 1415 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm giving you a shot to see some things and 1416 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,879 Speaker 2: to be able to count to two before the pass rush. 1417 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 4: Is on you and then do a nine step drop. 1418 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 3: But that's it, right. 1419 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 2: You eventually just yelled punt check like you're back on 1420 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 2: the streets of Jersey and Philadelphia and Chicago. All right, 1421 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 2: let's go back to the we talked talked about it 1422 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 2: briefly last hour. Let's go back to the NFC South 1423 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 2: Carolina narrow favorite two and a half point road favorites 1424 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 2: against New Orleans. 1425 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 3: We've seen some good things. 1426 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 2: Styler Shuck has ac quitted himself pretty nicely with his 1427 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 2: receiving core there on the offense side. Defensively, they can 1428 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 2: get after it and still present some problems. This is 1429 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,720 Speaker 2: one that I circle just from a potential chaos in 1430 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,240 Speaker 2: the NFC in terms of playoff bracketing, et cetera. Obviously, 1431 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 2: a lot of folks in Tampa will have their Fleur 1432 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 2: de lys flying high for this one. As Carolina gets going, 1433 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,559 Speaker 2: Bryce Young Tetoro and McMillan, and we talk about ric 1434 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 2: O'Donnell and Cuba. Rico and Cuba. I don't know if 1435 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 2: that's a pop duo from the eighties, but it works 1436 01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,719 Speaker 2: for me here. But right now in the driver's seat 1437 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 2: there in the NFC South. 1438 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 4: It's crazy. That's an interesting matchup, particularly on the other 1439 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,880 Speaker 4: side of the ball. Tyler Shucks played well. I mean 1440 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 4: I always felt, and I said this even through the 1441 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 4: draft process before the draft, that I thought his tape 1442 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 4: was the second best of any quarterback coming out after 1443 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,879 Speaker 4: cam Ward and he started, he's looked, he's been efficient, 1444 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 4: he looks relatively poised and calm. He can make any throw. 1445 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 4: He's very mobile for a man that size. He's playing 1446 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 4: against the Carolina defense that predominantly likes to play with 1447 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 4: a single high safety. Jc Horn is back this week 1448 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,560 Speaker 4: after missing a game. What they play with Caroline is 1449 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 4: he's the boundary corner. Always lines up to the short 1450 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 4: side of the field. Michael Jackson always lines up to 1451 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 4: the wide side of the field. It's another team that 1452 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,759 Speaker 4: plays a good amount of big nickel with the rookie 1453 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 4: Lathan Ransom, So you know it's it's gonna be an 1454 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 4: interesting matchup and the offensively Carolina you know, as long 1455 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 4: as Bryce Young doesn't turn it over, you know, because 1456 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,120 Speaker 4: every once in a while too, he makes a throw 1457 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,680 Speaker 4: where you go out that's a really good throw. But 1458 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 4: he's not a strong arm kid. He's not necessarily a 1459 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 4: guy that's gonna sit in the pocket and drive the ball. 1460 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 4: But if they can run the ball and the two 1461 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 4: headed monster's pretty good, Mike. 1462 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,639 Speaker 2: Right, the meadi part of the curve, averaging about twenty 1463 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 2: three points per game. Yeah, the Carolina Panthers, I'm intrigued. 1464 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,720 Speaker 2: This one to me is actually fascinating. Yeah, shuck a 1465 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 2: guy that you know we talked about a long time 1466 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 2: ago when Rattler was still playing, and thus far a 1467 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,719 Speaker 2: guy making his case for a twenty twenty six start. 1468 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,880 Speaker 2: Let's get one more in real quick before we have 1469 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 2: to take the commercial pause before the final stretch run 1470 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 2: Washington against the Giants. We saw Jayden Daniels back out there. 1471 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 2: Took a spill the elbow. He's gone again, So Mariota 1472 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 2: back under center. Jackson Darton Company two and a half 1473 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 2: point favorites. Let's go to the Weather Channel. Although you're 1474 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 2: out there, you can just tell me all about it. 1475 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 4: I'm in South Jersey, so I don't know, you know 1476 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 4: how it is a little further than you know, ninety 1477 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:34,840 Speaker 4: miles north. 1478 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 3: That's see. 1479 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 2: There you go. 1480 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,720 Speaker 3: We get to the fun and excitement of well, it's 1481 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 3: still a world away, you know that kind of thing. 1482 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 7: It is. 1483 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 4: It is terms of our Yeah. I know people always 1484 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 4: say to me, I'll be in New York City, I'll 1485 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 4: see you, and I'm like, I'm not really in New 1486 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,679 Speaker 4: York's not an easy in and out city. 1487 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 3: Like I'm not giving you the two hours find me out. 1488 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 4: It's a two hour, two hour drive basically because you know, 1489 01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 4: New York. You don't just zip in and out. 1490 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's twenty mile commute from my house to the 1491 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 2: studio every day, could be two hours. 1492 01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1493 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 2: Right right bar between one and two, it looks like 1494 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,839 Speaker 2: thirteen mile an hour winds and temperatures in the high twenties, 1495 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 2: at least a. 1496 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,280 Speaker 4: Little better than we were supposed to get down here 1497 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 4: where it's supposed to be twenty to thirty mile an 1498 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 4: hour winds down here in the Philly area. 1499 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's it. 1500 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:19,600 Speaker 2: You got to eat a couple extra cupcakes so you 1501 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,360 Speaker 2: don't get blown away there. You go, put some rocks 1502 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 2: in those boots. Keep your ground in, Gregkosel. 1503 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,599 Speaker 4: You know I only eat the one cupcake. I could 1504 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,799 Speaker 4: easily have two, mic but I just know that wouldn't 1505 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 4: be a good idea. 1506 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 3: You're a disciplined man. That's what you do. 1507 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,840 Speaker 4: I got to keep my got to keep my girls. 1508 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 6: Figure, you know, nicely done. 1509 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 2: Forty six and a half the total on this one. 1510 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 2: Mariota winging and around. As we've seen, he's got his 1511 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,680 Speaker 2: compliment of receivers, certainly Debo and McLaurin in company, but 1512 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,640 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart, one of the tails of the tape and 1513 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,680 Speaker 2: saw some metrics over the course of the week in 1514 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,200 Speaker 2: terms of teams they've played, teams they've beaten, and what 1515 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 2: he's been able to do thus far. Pretty good run 1516 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,919 Speaker 2: here for Dart, even without Nay Scatabo. 1517 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Dart's a fascinating guy. Was actually talking 1518 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 4: with a former GM this week who you know is 1519 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 4: still close to the game and just talking about the 1520 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 4: fact that Dart is at the point you know he's 1521 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 4: gonna have to learn. Well, ideally, the more he plays, 1522 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,639 Speaker 4: the quicker he'll see things. Because most quarter young quarterbacks, 1523 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 4: not all it depends what style of quarterback they are. 1524 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 4: Asha dur Sanders is at his quarter pocket quarterback, so 1525 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 4: he's not just looking to flee the pocket. But a 1526 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 4: lot of quarterbacks who are very athletic, and Dart kind 1527 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,680 Speaker 4: of falls into that category to some degree. You know, 1528 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 4: when you don't see things, you rely on that parachute, 1529 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,920 Speaker 4: which should be a parachute, but they use it too quickly, 1530 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,920 Speaker 4: they leave the pocket. And yeah, you can make special plays, 1531 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 4: and those plays get people excited. They get your teammates excited, 1532 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 4: they get fans excited. But it's hard to live that way. 1533 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 3: Gotta love the juice plays though, because they everybody are. 1534 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 4: You know, everybody loves those plays, and then hey, they're 1535 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 4: fun to watch. That's why people love to watch those 1536 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 4: kinds of quarterbacks, you know. But you know, dart is 1537 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 4: just looky. I think he's been in the blue ten 1538 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,600 Speaker 4: in every game this season and he missed two. You know, 1539 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,960 Speaker 4: you really don't want to go through a season like that. 1540 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 3: No, it's not planning. That becomes wishing and hoping, which 1541 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 3: is that was not a strategy. 1542 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 2: He's Greg co sal at Greg Coat Cell, NFL Films 1543 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 2: forty six years, the NFL Matchup Show, of course, Colin Coward, 1544 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 2: one o'clock Eastern every Thursday. You see it there and 1545 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,640 Speaker 2: hear it across our Fox Sports radio platforms on the 1546 01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app find me over at Swollen Dome the I 1547 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Watch Flex podcast with Dan Byer, who's at the news 1548 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 2: desk with us this morning. You find that we have 1549 01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 2: our updates, our top lists and everything for this week's plays. 1550 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 2: Get that downloaded again. 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Whatever you 1570 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,240 Speaker 2: got popping on a Sunday morning to and from services, 1571 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit early breakfast as you get ready 1572 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,560 Speaker 2: for the early slate. Maybe you're still in hitting the 1573 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 2: snooze button, but just listening to us while you do so. 1574 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,160 Speaker 2: Whatever it is, we do appreciate you being with us, 1575 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 2: being part of the extended family as we hit the 1576 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 2: holiday season. 1577 01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 3: It's never lost on us. 1578 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:17,120 Speaker 2: The weight, you know, the place that we play in 1579 01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 2: the lives of this world, and how about your time 1580 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 2: means So when you give us a little bit of it, 1581 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 2: it makes my heart grow three times. Like I'm the 1582 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,360 Speaker 2: Grinch at Great Cosa where you find them on Twitter, 1583 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 2: find me over at swollen Up. I didn't know how 1584 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 2: I was going to land that play. 1585 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't know. You had no idea where you're 1586 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 4: going with that. 1587 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:34,439 Speaker 3: I but it was pretty good though. 1588 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:35,719 Speaker 4: Yeah it was okay. 1589 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,640 Speaker 2: Oh see, no celebration cupcaking because I landed the plate man. 1590 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 2: It might have been a little bumpy there, but we 1591 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 2: got there all right. Pittsburgh three point favorites home date 1592 01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 2: against the Miami Dolphins. Another one of those games where 1593 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,720 Speaker 2: hey Tua in cold weather and blah blah blah blah 1594 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 2: blah that we have along the way. Seven mile an 1595 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 2: hour wins as of now twenty degrees is what we're 1596 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 2: looking at when we get down to it. 1597 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 3: TJ. 1598 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 2: Watt the scary thing reminiscent to some degree of the 1599 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Toad Taylor puncture. 1600 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah right right, justin Herbert start. But TJ. 1601 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 2: Watt ruled out here, So that makes life a little 1602 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 2: better for Tu and that passing offense maybe a little 1603 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 2: more time to operate. But it all starts with and 1604 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 2: ends with Devin Hm. 1605 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny this team. Obviously, I think they've 1606 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,800 Speaker 4: won four in a row and idle six. 1607 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1608 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if they technically still have a 1609 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 4: shot in the playoffs that they went out, but obviously 1610 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 4: they're playing behind a chain. He's an explosive runner, certainly 1611 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,000 Speaker 4: on the perimeter. And the thing that is totally overlooked 1612 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,719 Speaker 4: is in the last four or five weeks, this defense 1613 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 4: has played exceedingly well, Mike. I mean they may be 1614 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 4: I don't have all the numbers in front of me. 1615 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 4: I think they may be number one in scoring. They 1616 01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,760 Speaker 4: are certainly in the top two or three on third 1617 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 4: down in this four game winning streak, They're they're getting 1618 01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,960 Speaker 4: turnovers on defense. This is in any ways, they've become 1619 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 4: kind of a complete team. Now everybody's gonna look to 1620 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 4: the weather and you know, two is a certain kind 1621 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 4: of player. We've talked about that many times, and they 1622 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,599 Speaker 4: have to play a certain way on offense. But if 1623 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 4: they can run the ball, and I gotta tell you, 1624 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel, people can say what they want, We're not there. 1625 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 4: I've been fortunate enough to be able to have conversation 1626 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 4: with over the years. He is really kind of a 1627 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 4: savant when it comes to the run game. 1628 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 3: One of the interesting slots. Let's go to the Sunday 1629 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 3: night football game. 1630 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 2: We actually have a positive play from Minnesota from last week, 1631 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 2: so we have to play it. 1632 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,240 Speaker 3: I guess we don't. JJ McCarthy had his big breakout. 1633 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for Justin Jefferson to get along board, 1634 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 2: but they got a big date on the road at Dallas. 1635 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 2: Five and a half point favorites are the Cowboys at home. 1636 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,680 Speaker 2: Forty eight point five is the over under on this 1637 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 2: one for Dallas. 1638 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,879 Speaker 3: No digs, they're just done with yeah. In the secondary. 1639 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 4: To me, this comes down to the Minnesota defense because 1640 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,959 Speaker 4: they have to keep the game close. Because JJ McCarthy 1641 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 4: last week, he was in a great situation. It was 1642 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 4: a shutout. He didn't have to throw the ball out. 1643 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 4: He made a couple of really good throws, by the way, 1644 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,759 Speaker 4: but you don't want him dropping back thirty five forty times. 1645 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 4: So it's up to the Vikings defense. To keep this 1646 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,680 Speaker 4: Dallas offense together so that the game, and you know, 1647 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,920 Speaker 4: in the third quarter is not twenty seven. You know, 1648 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,920 Speaker 4: Dallas doesn't have twenty seven points. So we'll see how 1649 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 4: that plays out. I mean to me, if you can 1650 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,920 Speaker 4: keep it close and allow McCarthy to be kind of, 1651 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 4: and I hate to use this term, but people will 1652 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,760 Speaker 4: understand it, kind of a game manager, then I think 1653 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 4: they have a chance. But you certainly don't want to 1654 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 4: have to have him drop back forty times by choice. 1655 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,040 Speaker 2: You had that touchdown pass to Josh Oliver and everybody said, 1656 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,719 Speaker 2: Josh Oliver's where's Addison? 1657 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 3: Where's Hockinson? 1658 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,160 Speaker 6: Where Jefferson? That was good ball, by the way, that. 1659 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 3: Good throw. All Right, we got the Jets. 1660 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,280 Speaker 2: They've got a new quarterback in Brady Cook going up 1661 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,719 Speaker 2: against Jacksonville and their run game really quickly. 1662 01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 3: That I think is the last one we haven't touched 1663 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:56,599 Speaker 3: at all. 1664 01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:57,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1665 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,240 Speaker 4: The thing about Jacksonville that I noticed last week because 1666 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 4: all of Lawrence's good throws kicking outside the numbers, and 1667 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 4: I don't think that's a coincidence. I don't think he 1668 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,479 Speaker 4: sees the field great between the numbers, and I think 1669 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 4: Liam Cohen knows that, and he threw the ball extremely 1670 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 4: well outside the numbers. 1671 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 2: Here you gotta run the football more, Jacoby Myers, Thanks Greg. 1672 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 3: What a great week. 1673 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,759 Speaker 2: Week fifteen Countdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM. 1674 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 3: Next here on Fox Sports Radio