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Speaker 1: It's Victory Monday, October seventh.

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Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it takes, gotta keep the pup fed. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to be back for my second straight Happy

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Speaker 3: Hour and it's Victory Monday. It's so much better on

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Speaker 3: Happy Hour for a victory Monday. Got a great offensive

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Speaker 3: out put from the team yesterday, their first win of

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Speaker 3: the season coming up today. We're gonna keep it real.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we will answer your fanatic fan questions and

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff to go over. It was not

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Speaker 3: a perfect win by any means, but it's a lot

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Speaker 3: easier to go over things after a win as opposed

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Speaker 3: to what we have been dealing with. So let me

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Speaker 3: welcome everybody in CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Prisco, Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer Tony Biselli is with us today. And it's

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Speaker 3: a victory Monday. How how relieved should we be? And

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Speaker 3: is this just the Colts being the cults or did

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars do some good things?

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Speaker 2: Listen, first and foremost. I think you got to give

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Speaker 2: the Jags the credit. I mean that's an NFL team,

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Speaker 2: and every team has injuries. Now, you could argue they

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Speaker 2: had a bunch. I mean their best player on offense

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Speaker 2: was out. I think they were better off with their

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback Frankly, and I think they had five or

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Speaker 2: six defensive starters and some key ones up front like

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Speaker 2: no Buckner, no Quidye Pay. They also another guy back

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Speaker 2: in camp, Sam bankou Or. I can't say yeah, you

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Speaker 2: want to say it because it's not in front of me,

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Speaker 2: and I I'm gonna butcher it. So I apologize. But

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Speaker 2: with that said, I mean we have injuries where without

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Speaker 2: a starting corner, where without people too, I mean that's

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Speaker 2: the NFL pete. But I think more than anything and

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Speaker 2: we can I want to talk about the offense. Well

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about both. Because the defensive collapse in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter giving up twenty four points, oh my,

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Speaker 2: I mean we got to talk about that. But overall,

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing that stood out to me and the

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Speaker 2: reason they won this game, forget about the opponent, is

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Speaker 2: because they made plays when they had to, and they

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Speaker 2: made plays that were there I mean, you go back

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Speaker 2: to Miami, if they make plays that are there, they

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Speaker 2: win the game. Probably if you go back to Houston.

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Speaker 2: I mean two deep shots. I mean Trevor hit those

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Speaker 2: this week. He did and he didn't that week and

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Speaker 2: probably the difference of winning. I mean, so you can

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Speaker 2: do that every week and people all the time says, oh,

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Speaker 2: we could have we should be you know, four and one.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, that's how losing organizations talk like, start

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Speaker 2: talking about if we did this, right, Yeah, you didn't,

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Speaker 2: So let's not worry about that. But let's also celebrate

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Speaker 2: what you did this week, which is played really good football,

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Speaker 2: especially on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: And I think Tony you mentioned this is the offense

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Speaker 3: we were hoping to see, right, we were going to season

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Speaker 3: seeing all these weapons, kind of hoping Trevor could make

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Speaker 3: that jump and find all of them and then the

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Speaker 3: running game.

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Speaker 2: But I'll say this, yes, I agree with you, kay,

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Speaker 2: But the reality is is the reason they were productive

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, because I thought they were productive against Houston.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the quarterback, Trevor just didn't play well and

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Speaker 2: he played outstanding on Sunday. But the big key is

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Speaker 2: and Pete, I don't know if you agree with me

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Speaker 2: or not. The offensive line back to back weeks played

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Speaker 2: outstanding football. And I'm the like, I'm the biggest O

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Speaker 2: line apologist because I think it's the most important once

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Speaker 2: you have a quarterback. There's nothing more important on a

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Speaker 2: team than establishing an offensive line that can set the

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Speaker 2: tone for the entire team. And I thought they played

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Speaker 2: just not good football for three weeks. You know, as

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Speaker 2: a unit, we can break down each individual. Actually we're

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Speaker 2: not going to do that. It is what it is.

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Speaker 2: The last two weeks they played really good football. Now

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Speaker 2: they have moments, like every offense line is moments during

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Speaker 2: a game where you're you wish he was cleaner in

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Speaker 2: certain places and everything else. But overall, you go watch

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Speaker 2: the last two weeks and especially Indie, they were dang

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Speaker 2: right dominant at times in physical and pushing people and

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Speaker 2: of this group. I said they look like they bought

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Speaker 2: a ticket on certain plays of watching, not one time

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Speaker 2: in that Indie game did I feel like guys were

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Speaker 4: I mean there were a couple not Cam Robinson did

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Speaker 2: That finish, that finish that you like.

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Speaker 4: You always talk about backside on the backside, particularly if

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Speaker 4: they hold those just for a little bit longer, then

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Speaker 4: the runner gets up the field and that guy doesn't

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Speaker 2: So there were a couple, but it was better, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you so. It always can improve. It's never perfect.

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Speaker 2: It's never as good as you thought it was. When

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Speaker 2: you go watch the tape, and it's never as bad

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Speaker 2: as you thought it was, except for the rare instances

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Speaker 2: on both sides. I thought watching the tape this morning,

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Speaker 2: they played winning football, and they played outstanding football. One pressure, No,

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Speaker 2: it's not a great pass rush group, but I don't care.

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Speaker 2: One pressure in today's football, that's a great job. That's

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Speaker 2: an outstanding job. You go look at it.

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Speaker 5: The rookie from UCLA had been getting pressure.

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Speaker 2: And he did not. He got nothing. He got nothing.

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Speaker 2: And then if you watch the run game, like my

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Speaker 2: than ten carries or eleven carries whatever, you're twelve whatever

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Speaker 2: he had. I like, let's feed the rock to hymns

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Speaker 2: more because the way he's running and the way that

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Speaker 2: offensive line blocked the last two weeks, it's really it's

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Speaker 2: really fun to watch. So kudos to the group because

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Speaker 2: listen at zhe to four and all the noise. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you go back to last week, we had reports

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Speaker 2: You had questions of what's going on, and you know,

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Speaker 2: pointing fingers and you know this group and that group,

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Speaker 2: and all the noise. Fire this guy, fire them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was the fire fest last week. If you were

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Speaker 2: kind of team you have. I think I really believe

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Speaker 2: in what kind of locker room you have. And I

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Speaker 2: check out and just think about yourself and do whatever's

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Speaker 2: digging in and saying, hey, this is a long season.

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Speaker 2: No one thinks we can do it. We do. Let's

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Speaker 2: play the type of football we believe we can. Let's

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Speaker 2: continue to get better each week. And that's what they did.

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Speaker 2: And it was a great offensive performance, and I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: it was a really good defensive performance. With three quarters,

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Speaker 2: it kind of went away. And at the end of the.

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Speaker 4: Let me get to the to the elephant in the room,

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Speaker 4: and that's the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: The quarterback looked different. And I know you talked we

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Speaker 4: They played well, but the quarterback tightened up a lot

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Speaker 4: of things. And I went back and watched last week's

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Speaker 4: game and compared it to this week's game. The motion

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Speaker 4: was quicker, the long stride was shorter. I think he

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Speaker 4: got back to his basics. And when you see the

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Speaker 4: ball coming off his hand, it came off differently. You

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Speaker 4: know the shot down the down, the down the field

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Speaker 4: that it was an effortless, easy throw and it wasn't

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Speaker 4: a long stride. He was clean in the pocket. And

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Speaker 4: I went back and I compared it, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know if he saw it setting him out to the

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Speaker 4: throw last week where he was long striding and not

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Speaker 4: his feet weren't facing the right direction.

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Speaker 2: I think he went back to his basics. Antony.

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Speaker 4: We talked about this a lot last week. The kid

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Speaker 4: was playing robotic football. He really was, And I the

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Speaker 4: more I thought about it, I didn't even say this

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Speaker 4: last week, but the more I thought about it.

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Speaker 2: All they preached into him last year was.

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Speaker 4: Don't turn it over, don't turn it over, don't turn

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Speaker 4: it over, don't turn it over. Well on he turned

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Speaker 4: it over one time in those four losses, so mission accomplished.

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Speaker 4: But he wasn't playing quarterback. He's playing robotic football.

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Speaker 3: I think he's playing it to he's safe.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 2: Pete. I might take a little I might take a

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Speaker 2: little bit different position on this. I'm not saying you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: And because I didn't, I mean you, I didn't study

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Speaker 2: and compare the footwork and everything week to week. So

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Speaker 2: and Pete, I trust Pete's you know eyes, and he

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Speaker 2: does his work watching film. I think the reason one

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Speaker 2: of the reasons. I think also the coaching staff handled

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Speaker 2: it the right way in game planning this week. If

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Speaker 2: you go watch the first quarter, every throw was a

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Speaker 2: checkdown or a quick stick route underneath. And I think

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Speaker 2: it goes back to what we talked about last week.

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Speaker 2: On the show, the three of us about almost like

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Speaker 2: a a three point shooter who can't hit the broadside

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Speaker 2: the ball go through the net. And I think what

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Speaker 2: I don't know this for sure, but watching the tape

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Speaker 2: is like, if the first guy's not there, check it down,

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Speaker 2: first guy, check it out, just like, let's get completions

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Speaker 2: and then give those backs and tight ends and the

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Speaker 2: receivers a ton of credit because what they did is

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Speaker 2: had some really nice run after the catches where they

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Speaker 4: And I think Tony, even those throws to the sideline

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Speaker 4: came out differently.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not disagree with you, but I'm saying

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Speaker 2: I like what they did. They didn't come out saying

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Speaker 2: for like we're gonna give him some easy throws. And

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Speaker 2: then as you watch the game progress, now all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden you start getting those shots, and all of

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Speaker 2: he's seeing it and he's feeling it, and he's being

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Speaker 2: smart with the football. I mean outside the one which

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Speaker 2: I just think he was convinced Brian Thomas uh Thomas

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Speaker 2: Junior was going to just win no matter what if

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Speaker 2: there were three guys. It was a terrible decision. He

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Speaker 2: had Kirk like, listen, that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but there should have been a penalty for the

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Speaker 4: linebacker got his hands on Kirk, you know, knocked him

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Speaker 4: off his route. But once Kirk got up, he should

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Speaker 4: have should have went here.

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Speaker 2: On that one.

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Speaker 4: He predetermined where he was going with the football. That

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Speaker 4: was a prestat predetermined and he does that. Sometimes you

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Speaker 4: can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Every quarterback that does that. Sometimes every quarterback wants to

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Speaker 2: take a shot. They got their guy running the route

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Speaker 2: they like, and they just think it's gonna be there

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Speaker 2: and they make their mind up. That happens.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, when he threw that ball, we were watching on

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Speaker 2: No, the ball comes loose before he comes in, and

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Speaker 2: My point is, Pete, that thing was sitting in the

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Speaker 4: Okay, somebody put on Twitter he reminded me of somebody.

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Speaker 2: And it's not fair to the kid either. Yo.

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Speaker 2: And if you watched him progress as he matured as

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you're wrong, Pete, I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: I think he's leaned up from a year ago, and

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Speaker 6: Hunkering down and not looking and listening to anything, honestly,

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Speaker 7: And I think that that's what good teams do.

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Speaker 3: That's quarterback Trevor Lawrence says he's not listening to outside noise. Pete,

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Speaker 2: I love that he says he doesn't listen to anything.

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Speaker 2: and I got And Pete will tell you I got

437
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Speaker 2: crusty with the media at times when it was going bad. No,

438
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 2: it's shocking. I know, kay shocks you. And sometimes that's fine.

439
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's wrong to get crusty with the

440
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 2: media sometimes, but I just like, as the quarterback, it's

441
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: hard because everything's on you. It was much easier as

442
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman than the quarterback. So I appreciate that.

443
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: The second thing I would say is, and Pete, I've

444
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: always been I've been a believer that Trevor is gonna

445
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 2: win super bowls. Here at ozen four. I believe that.

446
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's our guy, and I hope Pete is

447
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 2: right that this was a turning point. He's gonna be

448
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 2: tested next week against the Bears. That is a really

449
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 2: good defense and Eba Fluis is a very good defensive

450
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 2: coordinator and that's a good front seven. That line's gonna

451
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: be tested, and I think they're up to it, and

452
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 2: Trevor's gonna be tested, and so this is gonna be

453
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Speaker 2: a good next step. I'm glad we had this success

454
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: we did, so there's confidence going into that game because

455
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: this is gonna this is gonna look ugly at times,

456
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: and that's okay. NFL games are ugly at times because

457
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: when you play really good teams with really good players,

458
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: it's not always perfect. And this is where and this

459
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: is why I go back to for the offensive line,

460
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: where finishing is so important, because if you have that

461
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: finishing attitude, and not just offense line, but the whole team,

462
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: sometimes sometimes ugly turns into points and turns into victories.

463
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be perfect all the time, but

464
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Speaker 2: just that physicality and that finish in that attitude. Sometimes

465
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: we'll just produce the success you need. And I especially offense,

466
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: our offense against this defense coming up. And we're not

467
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: going to dive too much into the Bears, cause we

468
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: have plenty And I want to talk about this defense.

469
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: Our defense. That's a good defensive side of the football,

470
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: and it's and it's an ascending offense. If you look

471
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Speaker 2: at the last two weeks, what they've done. Now you

472
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Speaker 2: can question the opponents and everything else.

473
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the opponents have been very good.

474
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Speaker 2: I agree with that people, But people can say the

475
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Speaker 2: same thing about what we just did against the Colts.

476
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Speaker 4: That's true, no difference, that's true, but they're not the

477
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: Colts on as bad as the Caroline Panthers.

478
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Speaker 2: Though on defense you could argue right now with the injuries,

479
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: it might not be much of a difference. Best player. Yeah,

480
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: I look, I'm not, I'm not. I'm just saying.

481
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Speaker 4: Before we get to the Bears, I want to say

482
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Speaker 4: something about Trevor real quick, and you touched on something

483
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 4: I think is the guy handles himself like a pro

484
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: when he comes to the podium, in large part because

485
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: he was forced to as a as a rookie. Remember,

486
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: he used the face of the franchise.

487
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: We had a head coach. He couldn't get out of

488
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Speaker 2: his own wife.

489
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Speaker 4: So the head coach, the head coach wouldn't wouldn't answer

490
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Speaker 4: the question. So he put the quarterback up there every

491
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Speaker 4: single week. And so I wanted to say something about that.

492
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Speaker 4: But here's the number two part of that, Tony. Pretty soon,

493
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Speaker 4: that's all you're gonna get from these players.

494
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Speaker 2: Well, I know they're changing the locker room rules, which

495
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Speaker 2: I read that article ridiculous. I read that article and

496
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Speaker 2: I said, Pete Prisco right now is cursing here, Pa

497
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: just cursing him? It makes no sense to me. Well,

498
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Speaker 2: I don't want to dive into piece.

499
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Speaker 4: You're saying it's sad to the players because you might

500
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 4: not get to know these guys anymore the way you

501
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 4: used to be able to get to know guys, and

502
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 4: I think that hurts them to the fans, and I

503
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 4: think it we're always a conduit to the fans.

504
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: I just show what we're conduit to the fans. Pe'te.

505
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, You know I do, because I thought

506
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: the relationship with the media number when I enjoyed the

507
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: back and forth. We had great beat writers like Pete

508
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: and John Osher and you know calmnists like Mike Bianchi

509
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: and Fornt. I mean it was we had a good time.

510
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: Oh you just didn't want to say. For those that

511
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about.

512
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Speaker 4: NFL.

513
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, the NFLDH I put out a notice that they

514
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: don't want the media in the locker room during the week.

515
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't apply to postgames, so it's just during the

516
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: week hang out. That's how you kind of talk to players,

517
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: build that relationship.

518
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Speaker 2: Everything from the podium.

519
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: Basically, they want everything from the podium. I think it

520
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: was like that in twenty twenty, so they kind of

521
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: want to go back to that. And so basically you

522
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: can go in, but you have to ask a player,

523
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: and if they want to go outside to talk to you,

524
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Speaker 3: that's where they will talk to you instead of in

525
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Speaker 3: the locker room.

526
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Speaker 2: And I think with the PA, to take the PA side,

527
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: they're saying the locker room should be for players only,

528
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Speaker 2: which I get. The second thing is I think they

529
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: look at social media and they feel like that is

530
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: becoming a major condo to the fans.

531
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Speaker 3: And they can communicate themselves and they.

532
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: Can communicate what they want to communicate to the fans.

533
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Speaker 2: Now that's all being true, I still think you lose

534
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 2: something because you get information, you get a perspective that's

535
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: different from the media, and especially those local beat writers.

536
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: I really always appreciated what I mean back when I played.

537
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean those guys, I mean Pete, they worked like dogs.

538
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: I mean they were and sometimes I wanted to kick

539
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: them and.

540
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Speaker 5: Some guys actually trying and some guys did.

541
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Speaker 2: I did not, but you did not. But I but

542
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: I appreciated the back and forth with the media back

543
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: then and ended up becoming pretty good friends with a

544
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Speaker 2: lot of them. The Pete's one of my good friends.

545
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Speaker 4: So well, here's Tony, here's my problem with it.

546
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Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm I know we're gooding off track here,

547
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: but I.

548
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Speaker 4: Just think it needs to be said because I think

549
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: it's it's not great for the fans.

550
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Okay. Social media is there.

551
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 4: Guys can send out their whole message, right, There's no

552
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 4: doubt about it.

553
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Speaker 5: One of the things that I always prided myself on.

554
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Speaker 4: And you will test to this because you know, if

555
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: I wrote something that was contra versil, I showed up

556
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 4: the next day and I took my heat, and I

557
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 4: didn't mind taking the heat. Now, we had some guys

558
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: Mike Bianki who always wrote something and said I'm.

559
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Speaker 5: Not going there on Monday going.

560
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: He would disappear, Yeah, I go, you're going.

561
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: And I tried to talk him into going and he

562
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 4: wouldn't go. And I think that's a terrible thing. But

563
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: that's what's gonna happen. That's where they're headed. If I

564
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 4: were covering the Jaguars and there's no locker room access

565
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: and the only way I can get to players I

566
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: request him and he comes outside and talks to me.

567
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 5: Well, what about when I write something.

568
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 4: Critical of the team or the organization or whatever I got,

569
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 4: I can't go in the locker room and face my music.

570
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to accountability.

571
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, no accountability, right, And so I think that's part

572
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: of the problem.

573
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. That's a great perspective. Bet. I didn't

574
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: think of that, but I think you're right. Let's come back.

575
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Speaker 2: When we come back, I let's let's talk about the defense.

576
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Because as big of a story that the offense was

577
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: that they've showed up and they executed and they played well,

578
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: and they were explosive and put points on the board

579
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: at a high rate, it was a defense that almost

580
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: felt like it forgot how to play the last quarter.

581
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: I mean, gave up ten points in three quarters, seven

582
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: in the first drive, and then locked it down and

583
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: then gave up twenty.

584
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Speaker 5: That was a fourth down conversion for the touchdown, that's.

585
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: Right, and then gave up twenty four in the fourth. Yes,

586
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: that's a problem there, that's a problem.

587
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Speaker 3: up on Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Holmlans, we

594
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Speaker 3: will talk more about the defense, what happened in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and what they're going to do going forward.

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Speaker 7: It was big.

597
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Speaker 8: It's good to see him, you know, take this step forward.

598
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 8: He and the d line have been really close to

599
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 8: get into the quarterbacks here in these first you know,

600
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Speaker 8: month of the season, and I'm proud of those guys

601
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Speaker 8: for the way they've stuck together and.

602
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Speaker 3: Continue to work Ted coach Doug Peterson talking about Trayvon

603
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Speaker 3: Walker the day he had yesterday. Welcome back to Happy Hour. I'

604
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Speaker 3: Kindannie Stevens, Tony Biselli, Pete Prisco with us here today,

605
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Speaker 3: and let's talk a little bit about that defense because

606
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: they played. Some players played well, but there were issues.

607
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: And I say specifically in the fourth quarter, Tony you

608
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: mentioned I do the postgame interview. I went out there,

609
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: They're up two touchdowns. I was like, Oh, it's fine,

610
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Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden the games tied. Oh

611
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Speaker 3: never mind.

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Speaker 2: My wife left early. My wife and daughter and son

613
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Speaker 2: all left.

614
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Speaker 3: Early, missed all the fun.

615
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: And I'm driving home and like, I'm like, where are you?

616
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: And I got already home, Like oh, She's like, we

617
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: just left at the it was over. Like what do

618
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: you mean when'd you leave? She was, we are four teams,

619
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Speaker 2: like five minutes left, Like the whole game happened in

620
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Speaker 2: the life five minutes. Let's start with Trayvon and then

621
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Speaker 2: we'll get into the fourth quarter. Let's start positive the two.

622
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Speaker 2: The third sack was just terrible execution by the Cults

623
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Speaker 2: of what they're trying to do. They're trying to get

624
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: flap outside so you could throw a bomb. And Trayvon

625
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: did the smart thing. He just ran inside and know

626
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: one touched, Yeah, so take that. Yeah that's ended again.

627
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: He picked off, but he had another one. He had

628
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Speaker 2: some really nice rushes and and I think part of

629
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Speaker 2: it is like Trayvon is who Trayvon is. Trayvon is

630
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: not going to be get on your edge, swat, spin,

631
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Speaker 2: swat the hands, spin whatever. He is going to be

632
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: a speed and then power you impress you to the

633
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: quarterback and come off and get on an edge. And

634
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Speaker 2: I think what he did to that to Braden Smith,

635
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: the right tackle, who's a good player. I mean he

636
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: hammered with him with power early and that and and

637
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: Trayvon is a strong guy and got Braiden worried about

638
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: the power and started to lean where now he could

639
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: go to work. And I thought the biggest play of

640
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: the game looking back was the sack fumble at the

641
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: end of the first half. Huge. I thought that was

642
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: the biggest play because the Colts were getting ready to go.

643
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: We had just turned it up there, we had just

644
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: turned over.

645
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis with the fumble. They have it and get

646
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: a first down. Now they're near midfield probably, you know,

647
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: plenty of time, they had timeouts, they could have got

648
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Speaker 2: a couple more plays and gotten field goal range. And

649
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Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, we're down thirteen ten, going

650
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: a halftime, and all of a sudden, you look up.

651
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: I was on the field because I was getting ready

652
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: to do Tom's and Conflin's induction, and you see Tray

653
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Speaker 2: Vaughn get the strap the sack strip, Josh picks it up.

654
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: Cam Little's walking out to the field. Thirteen ten were up.

655
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: It's a six point swing, and the game ended up

656
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: being a three point game. But I always got three.

657
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: It's a six point swing.

658
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Well, I think they would have my point. I mean

659
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: to first down Spete and they you know, but let's okay,

660
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: let's just say three points went fine. End up being

661
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: a three point game, but more more than the end

662
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: result because a lot of things happened the last five minutes,

663
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: which we're about to talk about. It was the momentum

664
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: and the feeling going into halftime.

665
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's the sha what we had feeling.

666
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: It was the opposite and knowing you're getting the ball

667
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: back and knowing like, hey, we just made a play

668
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: when we had to and defense, and like there was

669
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: there was energy in the whole building, and you know

670
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: there's energy in that locker room. I just thought that

671
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: was such a It was a great rush by Trayvon.

672
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: It was good to see him get going because I think,

673
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: you know, people have been critical and he hasn't been

674
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 2: getting a lot of pressure and everything else, and they

675
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: look at PFF and win rate and all this different stuff.

676
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: Bottom line is he played a heck of a game.

677
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: He's been very good against the run all year. He's

678
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: very physical and if he can get that pass rush

679
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: going like he did on Sunday, it's gonna be a

680
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: It's gonna be huge because now you have both sides collapsing.

681
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: And if you watched Flacco for a lot of that game,

682
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: after the first drive, the pocket was getting squeezed by

683
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: bullsa by both Josh and Trayvon, which was nice to see.

684
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, if they only had a little pressure into the middle.

685
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: They that's still a struggle the internal pressure.

686
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, Trayvon Walkers. Look, the problem is he's being

687
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: compared to a Hutchinson.

688
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 5: That's the problem.

689
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: Who's because he's a good football player. Is a good

690
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: football player, and if you look at his sack numbers.

691
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: His sack numbers are impressive, and that was a good performance.

692
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: I mean on the on the the one sack that

693
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: was was did heinds Allen get credited with the one sack?

694
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: I think he did.

695
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, But well, what.

696
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Happened there is Trayvon wins. Trayvon is inside is actually

697
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: getting pushed down by Braden Smith, so he wouldn't have

698
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: gotten the sack, but he made Flacco move enough, and

699
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Josh had a really nice power rush on the other side,

700
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: and as soon as Flacco moved a foot to get

701
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: out of the way of Trayvon, there's Josh making the sack.

702
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: So really good complimentary football by both guys.

703
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's why he gets compared to Hutchinson.

704
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: That's the biggest part of the problem.

705
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 2: Well, but that's the way it's going to be, Pete,

706
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: because this organization had an opportunity to pick Traymon Walker

707
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: or Aiden Hudchson as the first overall pick, and Aiden

708
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: Hutchson going into last week at least or this week. Yeah,

709
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: probably still because they had to buy I believe had

710
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: the highest win percentage. It does, and he has the

711
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: most pressures in the league. The most pressure's highest win

712
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: percentage in like six and a half sas after four games,

713
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: and they didn't play this week. They didn't play this week, right,

714
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: And so that is what it is. And my message

715
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 2: because listen, I got friends and on text messages and boy,

716
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: they'd like to wear out that point a lot. My

717
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: point is like, Okay, that's the past.

718
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 3: That will never change.

719
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: It's never changing. So Trayvon Walker is our defensive end.

720
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: And let me tell you what I know about Trayvon Walker.

721
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: He's a supreme athlete who's really physical and disruptive every

722
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: game I've watched him in the run. He is a

723
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: guy who can power rush you and make it very

724
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: uncomfortable for offensive tackles and push the pocket. Would I

725
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: like him to take his rush game up a level

726
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: to have more consistent wins and more pressure. Absolutely, But

727
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: right now where he's at as a player is really

728
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: good on first and second down. Physical, Like, not many

729
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 2: tight ends are gonna block Terry.

730
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: Von Walker, not by themselves.

731
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: Not by themselves. He beats up offensive tackles a lot

732
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: of times in the run game. He just needs to

733
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: continue to improve his pass rush to be to be

734
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: more consistent. Yeah, but he's like but Tony.

735
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: There were flashes of that Sunday where like you said,

736
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: he was going smack Dad with his power, and then

737
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: he started getting.

738
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: Well because he would still power, but then he'd get

739
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: on an edge, turn the shoulder, get up field, squeeze

740
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: the corner. He had some nice inside moves, but they're

741
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 2: all like he is a power rusher. He's never going

742
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: to be Aiden Hutchinson, who does arm slaps and spins

743
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: and rips and everything else and then occasionally powers.

744
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 5: Well, they technically have two power rushers.

745
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: And Josh Allen's a power rusher. But let me tell

746
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: you what, Aiden Hutchinson will never be the run defender

747
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: that Trayvon Walker is no and so like, stop comparing

748
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: them because they're always going to be compared. It's okay

749
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: fans do that. I'm saying when we talk about them,

750
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: I think the focus on the development and what he

751
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: does and what he brings to this team. And you

752
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: saw that firsthand on Sunday. When he is playing and

753
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: has a good rush plan, and especially against tackles who

754
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: struggle with any type of power, he is going to

755
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: be really effective. Now is he going to struggle more?

756
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: When you get a big right tackle. Who's good against power.

757
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 5: Yes, we go back to that play real quick.

758
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 4: They took over with what six seconds last five, but

759
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: they kicked the field goal right away.

760
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they ended up because they had to

761
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: kick off. Yeah, because Pete, they were at I think

762
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 2: they they were at the twenty five where it ended up.

763
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: We'll see right here.

764
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: So you shut down, Thank goodness, because I was like,

765
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: he's not gonna make it, and if he runs out

766
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: this clock then they're not even Yeah, he.

767
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: Got to the ten. I don't think I would have

768
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: taken a shot at the end zone.

769
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: Not enough time.

770
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 5: No, But did they end up kick kicking off?

771
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you forget. Yes, they kicked off and they

772
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: took a knee.

773
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: Okay, wait they kicked off. Jacksonville kicked off.

774
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they kicked off for the end zone right only

775
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: one second somehow ran off okay, okay, but they had

776
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: to time out.

777
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: So if you were going to kick the field goal,

778
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: why didn't you take a knee with three seconds, call

779
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: timeout and then kicked You didn't have.

780
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: To kick off. Yeah, you could have done that, I think. Yeah.

781
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a again, I'm a stickler for game

782
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: management and you don't why even subject yourself to having

783
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: to kick off when you didn't need to. They had

784
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: two timeouts, So take the staff, take a knee, kicked

785
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: the play on the last, very last.

786
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 5: Play the game of the half.

787
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: Because there's no way that snap got away. You could

788
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: go get it and call time out and kick it on.

789
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. No, No, would you have

790
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: Would you have taken a shot five seconds like a

791
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: quick slap to the end zone enough time as I

792
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: would not even I would not have either, No, but I.

793
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: Would have taken I would have taken the knee with

794
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: three seconds and then kicked it on the final play

795
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: so I didn't have to kick off. What let's just

796
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 4: say in that scenario, if he kicked off, it didn't

797
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 4: make it to the end zone and they returned it

798
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: for a touchdown.

799
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: Have you watched Cam Little? He can kick it in

800
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: those He can kick it in the first row if

801
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: he wants to.

802
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 4: Why even subject okay, say pulls his hamstring on the

803
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: kickoff that, I mean, why even why even let it

804
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 4: become a factor?

805
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: Pete? I actually get your point. I just don't care

806
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: enough to engage you in that conversation, right, now I'm

807
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: not saying you're wrong.

808
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 5: Hey, Kyle, you know what that means. He freezes me

809
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 5: and he doesn't want it.

810
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: Okay, we got to come back because we still haven't

811
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: gone to the fourth quarter because I thought this game.

812
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: I thought this game was over when we had a

813
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: two possession of lead and all of a sudden, Joe

814
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: Flacco is throwing bombs to whatever fourteen's they pierce, pierce

815
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: and just look and run, running, torturing us just like

816
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: a complete torch job. This guy didn't have a target

817
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: until the last two dry and they is three for

818
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: like one fifty at the end. I'm like, what the

819
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: heck happened? All right?

820
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,000
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821
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822
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Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Coming up, we will finally talk about

826
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: that defensive collapse, what happened, and what they're going to

827
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 3: try to do to fix it. Welcome back into Happy Hour,

828
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: presented by Jet Home Loans, I'm kain Nannie Stevens in

829
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: for JP Shatdrick today. He already left for the UK.

830
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: We'll see him back next week. Tony Bisselli and Pete

831
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: Prisco are with me. We've been talking about getting to

832
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: talking about this defense, so let's finally get to it.

833
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: Jaguars have a fourteen point lead. Thought things were locked

834
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: up a couple of minutes left to play in the

835
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: fourth and they were far from that. It's cult able

836
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: to tie things up relatively quickly. What was going on

837
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: with the secondary?

838
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, if you go back even one drive before, we

839
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: were fortunate to flock over through Mohali.

840
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: Cox because he was open on that as well.

841
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: Now that was just a good route and maybe a

842
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: little push off by him. But you're up fourteen and

843
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 2: the year, I believe it was up fourteen with six

844
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: minutes left to go in the game, and at that

845
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: point like you can't let anything behind you, like you

846
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: just like nothing can get behind you. And it starts

847
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: with an acrobatic play by Pierce the one handed and

848
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: that okay, fine covers by Monterrey Brown. But then they

849
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: come right back, they come right back to him with

850
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: the deep show.

851
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 5: Those I don't know what those under underneath guys.

852
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: Right here look at this, like, what are we doing?

853
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: How do you let get back?

854
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 5: That looks like it was on Cisco.

855
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: But I also think if you're Monteric Brown, don't you

856
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: have to play over the top Pat? I mean like, yeah,

857
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: but you know he's got it.

858
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 5: He let him get He got no hands on him

859
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: at the line of scrimmage. That was a problem.

860
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 2: And then I would die like I don't know why

861
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: he's not bailing and just saying, if you want to

862
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: catch a fifteen yard comeback, be my guest.

863
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 4: But if you go back and look at the overhead

864
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: on that, I think if I remember watching that play,

865
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: Cisco kind of looks into the middle and hesitates for

866
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 4: a second before he gets over the top on that.

867
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but it was bad.

868
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: And then and then you have the over route. Yeah

869
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: that was then well then we go three and out,

870
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: So now's a seven point game, and I'm like, are

871
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: you kidding? Here we go and then they get an

872
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: over route to piers and like, I don't know what

873
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: the backside corner or safety is doing.

874
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 5: Well, he's jumping. You can see him jump.

875
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: So I understand that. But if it's covered two, you

876
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: don't jump it. You're in the back half. I don't

877
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: know what covers you're in or if it's a cover

878
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: three and the safety is supposed to be deep because

879
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: if you.

880
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: Know what it looked like, it looked like watching it

881
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: looks like he's a robber.

882
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So that means it has to

883
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: be three because look right, So he's got to because

884
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: the other side is playing three.

885
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 5: Right, it looks like it looks like three with a robber.

886
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 4: And so that's not on Cisco, that's on on the

887
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 4: other split safety or the corner.

888
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: Has the other corner the other corner is to carry him.

889
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: What's he doing? Yeah, he's got a deep third. I

890
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: don't know, but I don't know that was it.

891
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 5: We're making run Can we run that again?

892
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: We could with the with the with the arrow on it.

893
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: In fairness, were kind of making up what covers is

894
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: we think it is?

895
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: No, no, you can see it.

896
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 4: It's it is a three because the guys the safeties

897
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: looks they open a split safeties and they look like

898
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 4: they drop.

899
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: They drop it down. I think it's three, but I

900
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe maybe it was man. Maybe on this

901
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: side Montera Brown is supposed to carry him all the way.

902
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 2: Maybe it's man. I have no idea.

903
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 5: Let's see how he plays it. That is a man.

904
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 2: Well, the other guy's playing man.

905
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: So somebody's wrong.

906
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: But who is I don't know who's wrong. It's not

907
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: it's the way Monterrek Brown play that.

908
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 5: That's not it.

909
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: That's it's It looks like three to me.

910
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like three, and it looks like the

911
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: corner on the other side supposed to get depth and

912
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: play that.

913
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: But here's my problem. Up fourteen with six minutes left?

914
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: Is that am i? Am I doing the math right?

915
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: Or is it four forty two? I can't remember the

916
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: clock twice, but anyways, I think it was.

917
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: I think it was under five.

918
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was under five. I think it

919
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: was four forty two. Like you like, at that point,

920
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: you don't get beat. You know this, nothing gets over

921
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: the top. You call a defense and you tell your

922
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: guys keep everything in front of us, like make them,

923
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: make them take five or six plays to if they're

924
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: gonna score, Like make them use clock. And there was

925
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: just it was like one shot after another. I'm like,

926
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: what the heck is going on?

927
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: I mean the look on Ryan Nielsen's face. Put the

928
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: camera on him, Oh my god, he looked like he

929
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: was shell shocked. It was unbelievable.

930
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: He had You should have. I'm glad they didn't put

931
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: the camera on me because I was like, what are

932
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: we doing?

933
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 5: I guarantee you.

934
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: Everybody in that stadium was saying, here they go again,

935
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 4: guarantee it.

936
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I'd be lying if I didn't think.

937
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: In the back of my head. In the back of

938
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: my head, I'm like, what are we doing? We cannot

939
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: give this away. We've played too well. Now give the

940
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: offense credit because they tied up with two, you know,

941
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: two twenty left man Trevor got the ball and said okay,

942
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: and there was They didn't blink. They worked right down

943
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: the field. They used the clock effectively. They forced Shane.

944
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 5: Stike hit a good throw against the blitz.

945
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: They they forced Shane Styke and to start using his timeouts.

946
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: Got that big run to get ahead of it too.

947
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 2: It was great.

948
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 5: You know what's amazing though? How long was that field goal?

949
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: What was it? Fifty forty nine?

950
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: Were forty nine years.

951
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: Ago, they would have never just ran it three times

952
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 4: and settled for the forty nine yarder.

953
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 5: But these kickers are unreal nowadays.

954
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: That's like, that's like a thirty five yarder. When I

955
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: played Pete it is at that point too, it didn't matter.

956
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: It was like, there's no doubt. It was like I

957
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: watched him walk on the field like he was calm,

958
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: he was worried.

959
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 4: He's the best fifteen year old kicker I've ever seen.

960
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 3: Is that he's great.

961
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: Wa wa when does he turn fifteen?

962
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: I mean it'steen coming up?

963
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: He is, and he's a weapon.

964
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: I mean held that that was forty nine yards and

965
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: it could have been good from sixty oh easy and

966
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 4: yeah and and so that's why you play that differently nowadays, Tony.

967
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: Back in the day, you would have never run it

968
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: three times and just settled.

969
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't think you would have. Just you tried to

970
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: get you to have tried to get Hall since I mean,

971
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 2: Hall's made some fifty plus feederals, a lot of them,

972
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: but you are still trying to get it inside forty.

973
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah.

974
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 5: Nowadays, it's these guys are amazing.

975
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: So it worked out the end, but boy, they made

976
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 4: it interested and the final five minutes.

977
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: But defensively, Like I like the two things that I

978
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: worry about with our defense because if you look at

979
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: the first four games, they didn't give a lot of

980
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: very many points. With the time of possession. They couldn't

981
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: get off the.

982
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: Field getting Yeah, they were ninety yard drives, eighty yard

983
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: drives on.

984
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: The field all the time, and that combined and then

985
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: we saw them just fall apart in the fourth quarter

986
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: of this game. But really, and then you combine that

987
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: with the slow starts. I mean, every team gets outside

988
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: of the Dolphins. The Dolphins didn't do much if I

989
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: remember correctly, I don't think they scored the first drive.

990
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they did, maybe they got a field goal. But anyways,

991
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: I know the Browns did, I know the Texans did,

992
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: and and the Bills and.

993
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 4: And well they rotated the starters out after one point.

994
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: Then here come the Colts and they just marched down

995
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: and get seven. Like it's nothing like we got a

996
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: fast starter. Get we still have to start faster as

997
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: a team.

998
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 5: We need to talk more about the.

999
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: Defense and how to get a stuff when you need.

1000
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: One, and get a stop when you got and you

1001
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: have to get a stop.

1002
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, victory Monday, we finally got some stuff

1003
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: to talk about. Coming up in the second hour, we

1004
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: will go all over the details and highlights and some

1005
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: of the things they need to work on coming up

1006
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 3: on Jaguars Happy Hour perscenta by Jet Homelands.

1007
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 9: It's more like sometime when you make a big blade,

1008
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 9: your mind go blink and your your your instincts takeover.

1009
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 9: So and those opportunities come upind like, you don't know

1010
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 9: what's you just your your instincts takeovers. But afterwards, you

1011
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 9: know it come back to reality and you get get

1012
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 9: down and you see I'm like, dang, gots your scroll

1013
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 9: and uh, you go out and give my mom the law.

1014
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: It felt very dank thiks. We had a day yesterday

1015
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: two touchdowns, blackedown on that run apparently, but remember to

1016
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: give the football to his mom, so that's always good.

1017
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. Second hour brought to

1018
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 3: you by mister Chubby's Wings. Before the game, after the game,

1019
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: and during the game. It is a victorious happy Hour today.

1020
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: Tony Pselli Pete Prisco with me. I'm kin Nannie Steven's

1021
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 3: in for JP Shadwick and we get to talk about

1022
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: a win for once now. A great day from Prevor Lawrence.

1023
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: We saw two touchdowns, that one interception, but three hundred

1024
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 3: and seventy one passing yards. He did a good job

1025
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: of hitting those throws. We kind of criticized him for

1026
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: missing the week before, corrected that Jags defense blowing that lead.

1027
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: As we just discussed, we're up. The Jags are up

1028
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: by two touchdowns and then all of a sudden they weren't.

1029
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: But they were able to get the win thanks to

1030
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: Cam Little with that huge field goal late a sack

1031
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: to walk things off. The Jags are now one and four.

1032
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 3: The wind doesn't change everything, Tony, but it does make

1033
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: things a little more palatable when you go back to

1034
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: look at the tape.

1035
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: A win changes everything.

1036
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: Oh it's everything's different.

1037
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: I apologize everything. Let me tell you what. The food

1038
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: tastes better, you're better looking, you like your partner better,

1039
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 2: your kids are nicer, Like the sky's bluer. Like it's

1040
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: everything is better, and it solves everything. It's like I

1041
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: always say, like if you have a great grist, it

1042
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: really doesn't matter what the meat is because the gravy's

1043
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 2: so good, you just cover it up. And a win

1044
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: and coach Kauflin and I were talking about this at

1045
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: halftime and we were talking about, gosh, we need a win,

1046
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: we need to win. And I looked at him and

1047
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: I said, I said, it's a lot more fun coach

1048
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: making corrections after a win. And he looked at me smiled,

1049
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: and he says, you stole that from me. I said, I know,

1050
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 2: because it is. It just makes everything better. Now, does

1051
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: it mean that you're gonna win the next one?

1052
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 6: No?

1053
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: Does it mean that you're like you've solved every problem

1054
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: you have? Noop, But it makes everything better, and it

1055
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: makes things a lot more fun. And you should energize

1056
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: you and you should want to go get better, and

1057
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: you should want to get back on that practice field.

1058
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: You should want to watch film, and you should want

1059
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: to get ready for Chicago, because now you know what

1060
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: it tastes like and what it feels like. You remember,

1061
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: it's been a long time. You remember what it feels

1062
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: like to win, and you want that feeling a lot

1063
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: more than you want the feeling from the first four weeks.

1064
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: So to me, winning cures all and now it's what

1065
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: you do with it that really matters, because its.

1066
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 4: Also saves the season. It saves the season. Five you

1067
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 4: were dead. Yes, yeah, so it saves the season, it

1068
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 4: gives you it, and so from that perspective, you're one

1069
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: hundred percent correct, Tony.

1070
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 5: It gives you life.

1071
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 4: And now you get on a plane to go to

1072
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: London and you have life. If they if they didn't

1073
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 4: win that game, they go to London lifeless.

1074
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, I agree. I thought I think it would

1075
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: have been a disaster because beats right. You go to

1076
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: London now, and what your thought process is, it's always

1077
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: one game. But London's unique because you're leaving for two games,

1078
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: and so you like, just like naturally, you kind of

1079
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: combine the two and is if you're thinking about you're like, okay,

1080
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 2: we got two games. Got to focus only on Chicago

1081
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: because it's all matters. But we have a chance to

1082
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: fly back to Jacksonville in ten days, three and four,

1083
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: and right in the thick of everything, right in the

1084
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: middle of it, we're at home, got the packers coming in. Boy,

1085
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: we can find our way to you know, doing something

1086
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 2: with the season after a terrible start. Now, you can't

1087
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: get too far ahead of yourself because that's the danger.

1088
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: But London's unique because it's like you're going to play

1089
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: two games somewhere like in a unique environment. You know,

1090
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: one at taught them and one at wimbley. But boy,

1091
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: it feels Pete's exactly right. You get them that playing,

1092
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: you're like, hey, all right, that's who we are. Because

1093
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: you can tell yourself and you can tell you can

1094
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 2: tell yourself to be confident, you can tell yourself, you

1095
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 2: can be good, you can tell your stuff. You can

1096
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: score points and do this and do that. But til

1097
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: you go do it, there's always that little voice in

1098
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 2: the bag going, eh, man, are we gonna get over

1099
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: the hump? Why can't we finish? Pete's right? So that

1100
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: voice starts whispering when things go wrong, Oh here we

1101
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: go again. It's the worst voice. It's the voice you

1102
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: have to kill because that because you have no chance

1103
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: if you allow that voice to dominate. And now all

1104
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the voice is like, okay, yeah, that's

1105
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 2: who we are. Yep, that's who we are. And as

1106
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: an athlete, professional athay, you can convince yourself based off

1107
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: that alone. But you that's what you've been always. You

1108
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: forget the other for what what games you're talking about?

1109
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 2: I don't remember losing? Don't you see what we just did?

1110
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: And you build on that and get some confidence and

1111
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: get some juice in the building, get some juice in

1112
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 2: the locker room, and go, you know, go do something special.

1113
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 4: I know they'll all say play one game at a time.

1114
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: When play at a time, that whole spiel that every

1115
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 4: player gives you when they really look out and see

1116
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: what the schedule looks like. But if you look at

1117
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 4: you talked about it, Tony, if they go and win

1118
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 4: two games, they're both winnable games. By the way, it's

1119
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: not like there's a dominant team they're going to play.

1120
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 4: The Bears are pretty good, but they're not a dominant team.

1121
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: They're not one of the elite of the league.

1122
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 2: So you can win the Bears, worry meet people will

1123
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: keep yeah.

1124
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 5: Because of their defense.

1125
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1126
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 4: So if you win those two games and you come

1127
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 4: home and you get the Packers at home. Here, here's

1128
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 4: what the Texans play the Patriots this week. I'm just

1129
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 4: throwing this out there. This is their schedule in a

1130
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: through October after next week at Lambeau to play the Packers,

1131
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 4: which is much tougher to go to Lambeau than is

1132
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: to play them at home. I don't care what any

1133
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 4: you know that hom Agets, the Colston not very good.

1134
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 4: At the Jets on a on a Sunday night.

1135
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 2: They don't look right now, keep going, but they're pretty

1136
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: good on defense. Yeah, okay, then the Lions they're.

1137
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 5: At home, then the Cowboys on the road on a

1138
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 5: Monday night.

1139
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: Tough ways.

1140
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, so their schedule gets a lot tougher.

1141
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: Their tough as well, Ravens Chief.

1142
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 4: So if you yeah, if they can, if they can

1143
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 4: figure it out Jacksonville in the next two weeks and

1144
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 4: and you can win those two games, you're in it.

1145
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: You'll be in it.

1146
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: But again, if they played like they did early in

1147
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 4: that game, they can win both those games. If they

1148
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: play like they did in the fourth quarter, and they're

1149
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: not gonna win either one of those.

1150
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: Well, Patriots are very good. But it's not like our

1151
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: schedule is easy. When we get back for London. If

1152
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: we're looking ahead, you got the Packers at home, Eagles

1153
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 2: on the road, which I think if we unless.

1154
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 5: We don't get no, if if.

1155
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: You win the next two, it might not right. Eagles

1156
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: Vikings only undefeated team at home. Tough, they're good up

1157
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: at the Lions, one of the best teams in the NFL.

1158
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: Then the late by, right, and then we have a bye.

1159
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 2: But then we have the Texans coming here.

1160
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not an easy schedule.

1161
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 2: And then it lightens up after that. I mean, you

1162
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: close out with the Jets, the Raiders who aren't very good,

1163
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: the Titans twice, and the Colts again. But and then

1164
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: well they close out they have the Chiefs and the

1165
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: Ravens later, and I agree with that. That's why. But

1166
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm telling you the next seven games, well it really starts.

1167
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: The next two in London are critical. You gotta go

1168
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: win those two because if you come back both, If

1169
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: you come back two and five, you're done.

1170
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: It's not the same.

1171
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: Well you're you're two and five, you're gonna get flexed.

1172
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: That's a downer. Then you got Green Bay come in,

1173
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: you go. You gotta got the Vikings, you gotta go

1174
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: to Detroit, you gotta go to Philly. I mean, it

1175
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: gets hard, but I think these are the two most important.

1176
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: Every game is important. Peach right, players coaches, we say

1177
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: one at a time, blah blah blah, which is right,

1178
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: that's how you have to approach it. But we're not

1179
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: players and we're not coaches, so we can step back

1180
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: and look at this, it's mandatory they come back to

1181
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: and oh winning both games in London. If you want

1182
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: to go do something this year, you got you have

1183
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: to come back three and.

1184
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: Four if they don't. If they don't, then we start

1185
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 4: talking draft.

1186
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: Your favorite.

1187
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: No, we've agreed on this show we did not talk

1188
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: draft until we are eliminated from the playoffs.

1189
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 4: You almost were starting a week ago, we were talking

1190
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 4: about the first overall pick.

1191
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: Well a cow of times the tables have turned.

1192
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 2: We were not talking about the first overall pick.

1193
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 5: Have you. We weren't on ere but they were.

1194
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: If the draft were held, they would have had the

1195
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: first overall pick.

1196
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: I wasn't talking about it, and we will not talk

1197
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: about it on this show. I have in my contracts,

1198
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: in my contract the ability to state what we will

1199
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: not talk about on the show. And we will not

1200
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: talk about the draft or free agency or any changes

1201
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: or anything else until we are eliminated from the playoffs.

1202
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: All right, which I'm hoping will not be talked. Last

1203
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: week you did, I didn't correct.

1204
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk a little bit about those on games.

1205
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: You guys mentioned Chicago, that's the first one up. What

1206
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 3: scares you the most about the defense? How can the

1207
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 3: Jaguars go about attacking that.

1208
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: They got a good front four, they got good path

1209
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: They put the pressure of the quarterback.

1210
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 5: Well, one really good pressure the quarterback guy in sweat.

1211
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, he's a he's

1212
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: a good player. They are very disciplined. Ever Fuss is

1213
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: a very good coordinator. They do a good job in

1214
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 2: the back half. I haven't watched tape yet, but ever

1215
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: Fos is known, is known kind of the cover two

1216
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: two high safety guy and a lot of different he

1217
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: can do variations off that. It's a sound unit. They

1218
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 2: play fast, they play hard. They got talented players. They

1219
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: have one really good player in sweat.

1220
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 5: Well too, because Jalen Johnson's a really good.

1221
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: Corner I think, I mean, I'm saying in the front, sorry,

1222
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: and they got a really good corner. They're they're talented,

1223
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: well coached.

1224
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 4: The defense, their corners with Johnson, Stevenson and Gordon when

1225
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: they're playing at their best, that's as good a trio

1226
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: as there is in a league, as good as there is, so,

1227
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: you know, and Stevenson probably hasn't played as well as

1228
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 4: I thought he would play this year. Johnson's the real

1229
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 4: deal and Gordon's a heck of a nickel corner.

1230
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 5: So that group is talented. That group is really talented.

1231
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: So if you get pass rushed with coverage, Tony, you

1232
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 4: know what that means.

1233
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 5: That's a problem.

1234
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 2: I mean, so the point totals they've given up this year,

1235
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: and for a big part of this with a not

1236
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: very good offense, an offense that could not get out

1237
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: of its own way early in one of the games.

1238
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: They didn't score an offensive touchdown.

1239
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 3: On one, yeah, the first one.

1240
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: So they gave up seventeen to Tennessee.

1241
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 5: They lost the not by the way, isn't a very

1242
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 5: good offense.

1243
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: But they lost the Texans nineteen thirteen, gave up nineteen

1244
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: to the Texans, gave up twenty one, lost twenty one,

1245
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: sixteen to the Colts, gave up eighteen to the Rams,

1246
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: and gave up ten to the Carolina Panthers.

1247
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 5: Okay, the eighteen of the Rams was without Cup and.

1248
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but I also watched the Rams

1249
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: without those two guys put up some points against the

1250
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions.

1251
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

1252
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: The Bears are pretty there. I'm not saying it's the

1253
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: eighty five Bears or anything. But that's a solid unit

1254
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: that you're gonna it's gonna be one of the I'll

1255
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 2: say this, Pete, it'll be one of the better units

1256
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: we've played so far this year.

1257
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 5: Defensively correct, yes, yes, yeah.

1258
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: And the quarterback.

1259
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 5: The quarterback is.

1260
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: Better had he had a one twenty eight rating with

1261
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: three hundred and ten yards or three hundred one yards

1262
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: over three hund yards last week, and with the secondary

1263
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: is here.

1264
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 4: They ran the they ran the ball, which just helped

1265
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 4: him with you know, they finally got swift going a

1266
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 4: little bit yep, which.

1267
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 5: Has helped it. So yeah, their offensive line in great I.

1268
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: Thought it better than it is.

1269
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: It is not and that's something that Jacksonville cold take

1270
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: advantage of.

1271
00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: But you're right.

1272
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 5: When it comes to the deep, that's going to be

1273
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 5: your test for him.

1274
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see if this offensive line really has

1275
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 4: made strides.

1276
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: It's I guess the other thing I would say about

1277
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: the offense and what I what I get concerned about,

1278
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: not concerned, is if you do maybe a concern is

1279
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: until this last week, it's not like we were doing

1280
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: a great job of pressuring opposing quarterbacks. And at times,

1281
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: let's not kid ourselves flack out a bunch of time

1282
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 2: back there and through for three hundred and fifty plus yards.

1283
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 5: Correct.

1284
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: And so as much as we talk about how great

1285
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: Traybon played, which he did, and how Josh has been

1286
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: effective all your pressuring, it's not like we're constant a

1287
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: consistent pressure team with.

1288
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 5: Four Well, there's no pressure in the middle at all.

1289
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: Real And the one thing that I have seen, and

1290
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: I've not watched a ton of them, watch a little

1291
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: bit of it. But if you give Caleb Williams back there, Tom,

1292
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: it gives him, give him time back there. He has

1293
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: weapons outside and the kid can sling it and is

1294
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: unafraid to do it. Now, he does hold it.

1295
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 5: He does hold it, That's my point.

1296
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: He does hold it. But where is he struggled Pete?

1297
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: When they get pressure, he starts running around like a

1298
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: crazy man doing stupid stuff. But if you can't pressure him,

1299
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: that's a problem.

1300
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 4: I mean, we haven't talked about the interior pass rush,

1301
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 4: the non existent interior pass rush.

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Speaker 2: That's a problem.

1303
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 4: And what could you do to make it better, Tony.

1304
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: Well, if you had more depth of defensive end, you

1305
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: could play Eric Armstead in the three technique more often.

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01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 5: And he played some inside.

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01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: He did, but he's also I mean, the backup ends

1308
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: for us are Roy Robinson, Harris and Eric Armstead.

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01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 5: And they should be the interior pass rushers on passing

1310
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 5: down like.

1311
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: You get you watch some of the like against sub

1312
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: at times that's your four down rush with some combination

1313
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: of the other guys. So you have four defensive tackles

1314
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: out there rushing the quarterback. Let me tell you what

1315
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: that does not do.

1316
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: Put a lot of fear into the quarterback.

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01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 2: Into the opposing because you know what you're getting. You're

1318
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 2: getting at power, you can sit on it. You're not

1319
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: worried about the speed.

1320
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Speaker 4: And Armsteard is not the same player, and he's not

1321
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Speaker 4: the same player he as inside.

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Speaker 5: He just isn't.

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01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: No, And so one of the things you could do

1324
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: is go get some depth at defensive end, so you

1325
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: could play Armstead and Walker in the middle more because

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01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 2: they're probably your two best pass rushers.

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01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 3: Is there anyone out there to go get right now?

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01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: No? So no, there is no.

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Speaker 5: They didn't address it in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: I never to this day. I don't understand that, and

1331
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: I don't Maybe he was a bad guy. Maybe he

1332
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: was bad in the locker room, maybe the coaches. Hey,

1333
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, so I'm not. I'm not. But I

1334
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: never understood the trade because because we didn't have anyone

1335
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: to replace him, and you got a six rounder for him.

1336
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: So I didn't understand that move. And the only backup

1337
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: true defensive ends you kept was Cole who hasn't been

1338
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: active since Week one. And Abdulah can play end and sub,

1339
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: but he's we haven't seen great pass rushers from him

1340
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: since he's been here. I think his natural position is

1341
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: much better at SAM but he was hurt last week,

1342
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: so I didn't play. So I don't know the answer.

1343
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: I really don't. But you got a pressure, and you

1344
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: gotta pressure quarterbacks in this league, and if you don't,

1345
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna tear you up.

1346
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: And and if you only pressure from the outside and

1347
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 4: there's no pressure on the inside, they'll just step up

1348
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 4: away from it. I mean that they gotta have somebody

1349
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 4: push that pocket in the middle. Here's the other thing,

1350
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 4: and again I'm gonna go back to my pet peeve.

1351
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 4: First series of the of the on defense, get a

1352
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 4: first down, off they come, let's bring the backups back in.

1353
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: Now we'll get the They jumped over the boards. They

1354
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 4: got in their hockey. They keep them over the boards

1355
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 4: and it was their turn to play their line. I

1356
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 4: don't understand it. Three plays three three plays and they're off.

1357
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: What are they doing?

1358
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: They're winded, so they keep it.

1359
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 4: Fresh for the fourth quarter. Did you see how fresh.

1360
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: They were late in the game? All right, Sam, real

1361
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: quick before we go, peak question for you. How is

1362
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 2: DeMarcus Walker playing at the other end opposite Sweat?

1363
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 5: Okay, not great.

1364
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: I just haven't watched. I was just looking at their

1365
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: depth chart and I didn't know. I didn't even know

1366
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 2: what DeMarcus Walker signed there. All right, the Gator.

1367
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: Stay with us here on Jaguars Happy are presented by

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01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: mister Chubby's Wings coming back. We are going to keep

1369
01:04:51,880 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 3: it real about the offensive line.

1370
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 8: This is the second week in a row, really that

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01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 8: our line has played good as a unit, you.

1372
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 7: Know, and listen, I mean.

1373
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 8: It's been the same five guys now right. So when

1374
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 8: I say there's continuity keeping those five together, there's continuity

1375
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 8: and they start learning to play together, and that's what

1376
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 8: you're seeing. I think these last couple of weeks you're

1377
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 8: seeing that.

1378
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 7: And it was a.

1379
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 8: You know, just a great game by those guys again today.

1380
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: So that was Doug Peterson talking about the offensive line,

1381
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: and I agree with him one hundred percent continuity. But

1382
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: here's my critique, and I'm going to follow up with

1383
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: something I've discussed on this show with Pete personally, with

1384
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: anyone who listened to me. This is why you should

1385
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: play your offensive line and have a bunch more during

1386
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: the preseason in training camp because of what he just said.

1387
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: He's one hundred percent right. The longer an offensive line

1388
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: plays together, it's a position. You need to be in sync.

1389
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: You need to communicate, you need to learn how to

1390
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: play together, you need to get the pad level down,

1391
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: all things that takes reps to do. And so my

1392
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: pet peeve not just with our team, with every team

1393
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 2: in this league, not every because some teams do it differently.

1394
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: I would most don't. Most don't. So how Doug does

1395
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: it is probably the norm. Is I think that offensive line,

1396
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: let's take everyone. I would play that. I would practice

1397
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: them harder in training camp.

1398
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 3: Would Can you do that with the way practices are?

1399
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 2: You can do it as much as you like. I mean,

1400
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: you can do it more than That's not true. You

1401
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 2: should maximize what you have and we don't.

1402
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 3: We do not.

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01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: We do not. You should maximize and you should maximize

1404
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: every padded practice you have during training camp. I would

1405
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 2: play all five of those guys if they're healthy. Obviously

1406
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: we have some injuries this camp, so we couldn't. I

1407
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: would play them extended periods of times. And if guys

1408
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: are hurt, I said, okay, well I'm not gonna play

1409
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: maybe the starter as much this game. But when you're

1410
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: all healthy, you're playing a long time, like half half

1411
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: in a you know, a series in the second I

1412
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: mean why and but you're working.

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01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 5: Against another team, you're playing together.

1414
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: You're playing together, and we are gonna and like when

1415
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 2: we have a team here, both are gonna be pad

1416
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: of practices, not just one. Because you as an offensive

1417
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 2: lineman you get nothing, actually get bad habits because you

1418
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: stand up and you don't finish, you don't do stuff.

1419
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: And so I agree with Doug this one of the

1420
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: reasons this group is playing together. They've stayed healthy for

1421
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: the first five games they've played together, and you can

1422
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: see them improving, especially over the last two weeks. Well

1423
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: why because they're working together. They're getting more reps, they're

1424
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: getting pad level down, they're working better double teams. They're

1425
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: working to the next level, they're finishing better. That's all

1426
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: stuff that you should develop in camp in the preseason.

1427
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 4: And Tony, to your point, we're at week five, right, Yes,

1428
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 4: the scoring started.

1429
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: The scoring started going up again this week because people

1430
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 2: are blocking people because the preseason is the first four weeks.

1431
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 5: Now.

1432
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 2: It's bad football. It's terrible.

1433
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna gives an example of it of a play

1434
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 4: and I tweeted it out there on Bigsby's run. You

1435
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 4: saw Cleveland and Morse had the double and he got

1436
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 4: he got off of it. Yeah, and got it a

1437
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: linebacker and there's there's the whole run up touchdown that

1438
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 4: takes work. You can't just simulate that with dummies, you

1439
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:44,799
Speaker 4: know that, Tony, and I thought.

1440
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: And I thought on the other side, I thought, I

1441
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: thought Anton and Sheriff had some nice double teams working together.

1442
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: I thought it was like good football, it's fun to watch.

1443
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: I enjoyed this morning. I mean, I mean, I was like,

1444
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: this is what is supposed to look like. But it's

1445
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: there's no mystery why it doesn't right because they don't

1446
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 2: get enough rip in. What I get what drives me

1447
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: crazy is everyone's afraid of injuries. Why don't get my

1448
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 2: guys hurt in the preseason or in camp or what.

1449
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but playing bad for a quarter of your season

1450
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 3: is just as dance.

1451
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: Hold on, why are there more injuries now than when

1452
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 2: I played? And we beat the hell out of each other. Now,

1453
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you should go back to what we did.

1454
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 2: That was probably too far the other way. Two a

1455
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 2: days for four weeks, and I mean just the you

1456
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: know I was. You know, I'm like, Okay, I get it,

1457
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 2: I know, but but I'll say this. You go turn

1458
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: on the tape early season games. We were playing good football.

1459
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: We were playing at a level you had to because

1460
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: everyone else was too.

1461
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 5: And yeah, because you played in the preseason.

1462
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 2: You played in the preseason, our preseason two to three series,

1463
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 2: preseason game one quarter and a half, two a half,

1464
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: depending how it was going. Preseason two, preseason three full

1465
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: half and at least one drive in the third quarter,

1466
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 2: preseason four or ten.

1467
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 3: Plays plus padded practices, a lot more than what we see.

1468
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: Now double days. And when we went to a team

1469
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 2: for day it was an all out brawl. It was physical.

1470
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 2: And so I get that. I'm not I'm not the

1471
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 2: old guy saying, hey, you gotta go back and do

1472
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: it like that.

1473
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 5: I know you can't do it like that.

1474
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: It's against the CBA rules the union.

1475
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 4: Even if they weren't, you still couldn't do it that

1476
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 4: way anymore.

1477
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to. I actually think one

1478
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 2: practice a day, in getting after it for four weeks

1479
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: or three or a half weeks, whatever it is, and

1480
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: playing these guys more in the preseason, I think you

1481
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: would have a huge advantage opening day because you would

1482
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: be further ahead, progressing, playing more in sync together. Offensive

1483
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: line would be protecting and running the ball better, which

1484
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 2: gives your quarterback more time, and your skill guys get

1485
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: open and everything else, and your back to that room,

1486
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: you beat up people. It just changes. And so Doug

1487
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent right his whole point. Man, I

1488
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 2: agree with him. We're seeing better play for one of

1489
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: the reasons because the continuity and then getting used to

1490
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: each other, understanding each other, getting better pad level, better footwork,

1491
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: better doubles, better pass protection because they're wrapping it and

1492
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: they're doing it live and they're going full speed. They

1493
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: don't do that enough on this team or most.

1494
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 5: Of the ANSA around.

1495
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: The league, and I just and I don't buy. Oh,

1496
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: we're worried about guys getting hurt. We've been playing football forever.

1497
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 2: And by the way, like I don't remember outside of

1498
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 2: two thousand and it was the first padded practice of

1499
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: the of the of the camp when Leon Sercy tore

1500
01:11:54,080 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: a squad where all five guys were not the starters,

1501
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: were not their opening day. Now, did a guy miss

1502
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 2: a preseason game here or there, or miss a practice

1503
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: or two, Sure, but you were getting reps. And then

1504
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: guess what your backups were getting a lot of reps.

1505
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: And what were you doing. You were developing young offensive linemen.

1506
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: What are we lacking in this league today? We don't

1507
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: lack I don't. We don't lack wide receivers. Bunny guys

1508
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 2: can run, catch and do amazing things. We don't lack backs.

1509
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 2: We lacked two positions and off we don't lack tight ends,

1510
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: offensive linemen and elite quarterbacks. There's not enough, Like I

1511
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: don't think you could have more than thirty two teams

1512
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: because I don't know if there's enough offensive linemen. The

1513
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: base of the way the college game is played today

1514
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: and the lack of practice they have at that level,

1515
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 2: and the lack of coaching in some places are getting

1516
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: and their lack of understanding how an offense actually works

1517
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 2: and what fronts are and what you know, coverages and

1518
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: all the different things are aren't taught anymore, and the

1519
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: lack and then so now we're taking those guys to

1520
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: this level with the limited practices, is not enough time

1521
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: to develop them, and no wonder the result is just

1522
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: awful football in September because nobody can block anybody.

1523
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 4: It's you know what to Tony, think about this? With

1524
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 4: all the seven on seven camps that are out there.

1525
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 4: Now we have some of the greatest receivers at seventeen eighty,

1526
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 4: oh my god, twenty years old you've ever seen. And

1527
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 4: so that position has mushroomed into something special, and the

1528
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 4: grunt position, the offensive line has morphed into something that

1529
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 4: is dreadful. And you talk about depth, go watch some

1530
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 4: of the XFL UFL where those teams are.

1531
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 5: You want to see bad offensive line play because of

1532
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 5: your theory.

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: I exactly what I'm telling you, because offensive line is

1534
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: a harder position to play than anything else besides quarterback,

1535
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: because of what you're being asked to do in the

1536
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: in the athletes you're playing against it, and it has

1537
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: to be in coordination across the line with everyone else,

1538
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 2: and you have to do things together combo blocks, and

1539
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: you're backing up to protect somebody with a guy come

1540
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: full speed at you, like the only way. Like at

1541
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 2: some level you can just like, is Brian Thomas jor

1542
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 2: a great route runner right now? Is he a great

1543
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: route runner? No?

1544
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 6: No?

1545
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: Was Jimmy Smith a great route runner year in nineteen

1546
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: ninety six?

1547
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 7: No?

1548
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 2: What they are now? Jimmy Smith became an outstanding route

1549
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: runner right over the middle. Why he's one of the

1550
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: best ever. And I believe Brian Thomas Junior will become

1551
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: an outstanding route runner as he progresses and he gets wrapped.

1552
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: Why is he so effective as a rookie Because he's

1553
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 2: a supreme athlete. He's just a better athlete. He can fly,

1554
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: he has good hands, he's you know, and I'm not

1555
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 2: saying I'm sure he works hard and all that. I'm

1556
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 2: not taking that away. As an offensive lineman, you can

1557
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: be the best athlete you want to be if you

1558
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: don't have the technique in understand the position and how

1559
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: to work in coordination with another guy and and double

1560
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 2: teams and understand passe sets and angles and what a

1561
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: defensive lineman is trying to do to you and everything else.

1562
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying. Receivers not a technical You have to

1563
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 2: learn how to get off the jam, all those things

1564
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: and those things. But you only get that as an

1565
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 2: offensive lineman by reps, and you only get better by

1566
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: live reps because you end up getting some bad habits,

1567
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: especially in the run game. If it's not because your

1568
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: pads get too high and you don't, you don't. It's

1569
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: not the same like because you're right. The last thing,

1570
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: and I'll let you go, is you're right seven on s.

1571
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 2: You can replicate a lot of stuff with no pads

1572
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 2: on and get a lot of reps in the with

1573
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: low risk, no contact, and then that simulates very similar

1574
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: to what it's gonna happen on game day. You can't

1575
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: do that as an offensive alignment. It is impossible.

1576
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 4: And here's the other thing, real quick, in the back

1577
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 4: of the day, he used to be able to take

1578
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 4: a tackle who couldn't be a tackle and develop him

1579
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 4: into a guard.

1580
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 2: Zach, Zach, Zach Martin.

1581
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 4: I can go back to Marshall yonda media, you know,

1582
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 4: on and on and on, hey Ben Coleman, who played

1583
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 4: next to you at guard, was once tackle. Well, now

1584
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 4: it's so tough to do that because you don't have

1585
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 4: the developmental time.

1586
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 5: The hitting it's different.

1587
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 4: So when you say, okay, I used to always look

1588
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 4: for guys when I used to look by analysis, say

1589
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: well he's not good enough to play tackle, but boy,

1590
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: you could move him inside and make him a guard.

1591
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 4: That's hard to do now because you don't have the

1592
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 4: developmental time to do it.

1593
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,919
Speaker 5: You're not hitting, You're not hitting anybody.

1594
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: And I'll end with this, I know we got a break.

1595
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: I understand Doug's hesitancy because to do what I'm saying

1596
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: is going against the grain. And if somebody does get.

1597
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 3: Hurt, it's on you.

1598
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 2: The finger is gonna get pointed. And so it's not

1599
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: just the head coach who has to have that philosophy.

1600
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: It has to be the whole organization that this is

1601
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 2: what we believe. And I'm not just talking about the Jaguars.

1602
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 2: I'm talking league wide. And so I get why coaches

1603
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: are like because if I put my starter out there

1604
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: and he gets hurt, everyone's gonna say, why are you

1605
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 2: playing him in the preseason. Well, the simple answer is

1606
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: that's how you play football and that's how you get

1607
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 2: better at things. But it would be a bigin That's

1608
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 2: my point. It wasn't a big deal when I played

1609
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: because that's how everyone did it right. And I think

1610
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: it's an opportunity for somebody in this league. And I

1611
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: know some teams that do it, not a lot, though

1612
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: I know a couple, but I think it's an opportunity

1613
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: for a team in this league, saying, at least for

1614
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: the big guys, we are going to practice and we

1615
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 2: are going to be physical and they're going to play

1616
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 2: because opening day we are going to be ready to

1617
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: roll and I just don't think teams are. And I

1618
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 2: think and I'd love to do that. Every year we

1619
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 2: talked about this at some point on this show, and

1620
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: I always threaten to do this and I never do it.

1621
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 2: It'd be great to do, Like go look, and I'm

1622
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: sure there's studies out there the injuries that happened in

1623
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 2: today's game compared to when camp in preparation was different

1624
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of injuries still, tissue injuries, a

1625
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: lot of I don't know what it is, but I'd

1626
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: like to look at it because I know one thing

1627
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: I can turn on the tape and for the first

1628
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,919
Speaker 2: part of the season September, a lot of bad football

1629
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 2: and a lot of offensive line player that's not very good.

1630
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 5: Ky needs to wave the paper like JB does this

1631
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 5: shut you up session? All right?

1632
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 3: They kept it real on the offensive line. Coming back.

1633
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 3: We're gonna do our fanatic fan questions here on Jaguars

1634
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 3: Happy Are presented by mister Chubb's Wings.

1635
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: Kind Of been our season so far.

1636
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 6: In that game today and.

1637
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 10: In moments when we needed it the most, got stepped

1638
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 10: up and we were able to fight through that adversity.

1639
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 10: So it just you know, builds confidence, you know that,

1640
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 10: and moments that we needed. We have the guys, we

1641
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 10: have the people, We have the team that can step

1642
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 10: up and doing it. So we just got to you know,

1643
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 10: keep it rolling, you know, use this this momentum to

1644
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 10: you know, take it over to London and keep accumulating wins.

1645
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 3: Welcome back into Jags Am here, jag Sam Here, Jaguars Happy.

1646
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 3: I'm doing too many shows today. Jaguars Happy are here,

1647
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 3: presented by mister Chubby's Wings. We did see some fight

1648
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 3: back from this team. A lot of things had not

1649
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: been going their way earlier. This season and they weren't

1650
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 3: able to bounce back. They did just that, getting their

1651
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 3: first win of the year in the throwback uniforms looking stylish.

1652
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 2: Talk how about those jerseys, guy.

1653
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 3: So I feel I'm unbiased because I was not around

1654
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 3: when they were here. They just look better. Are they green?

1655
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 3: Are they brighter? Are they green? The color is better,

1656
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 3: more Teal, the more Teal, the Teal itself is better.

1657
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 3: And then the the society.

1658
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 2: The ribbing, the logo and the ribbing and all that. Yeah,

1659
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 2: it's just much better looking uniform.

1660
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: I know every fan base wants their throwbacks, but this

1661
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 3: is justified. They are entirely better.

1662
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 5: Trevor wore black shoes. Did you notice that?

1663
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: I did not. I didn't pick that up.

1664
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 5: It looked, it looked. It looked much better than black shoes.

1665
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 5: So maybe you should wear them again.

1666
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, I'm with you, Kai, and

1667
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm biased because those jersey but.

1668
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 3: They thought they market better, market better, and.

1669
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: I I'm just going on the record now and say

1670
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 2: I like our home jerseys being Teal jerseys white pants.

1671
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't think we wear Teal enough.

1672
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: I like her like Teal jerseys white pants. And on

1673
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: the road. I like the white jerseys with white pants.

1674
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: I just like, that's what you used to wear. That's

1675
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 2: what we did in September at home. If it was hot,

1676
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: we'd wear the white jerseys and make them wear the

1677
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 2: dark ris. But I just I just and what I

1678
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: just thought, because it kind of gives you an identity

1679
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: of who you are too. It's like, this is who like,

1680
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 2: this is who we are, this is what we wear.

1681
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,799
Speaker 4: The funny thing is, back in the day, I didn't

1682
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 4: I thought that uniform was kind of ah. And now

1683
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 4: now compared to what they've been wearing, I think it's

1684
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 4: ten times better, so much better.

1685
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 2: Well, but here's the thing. I'm in the minority because

1686
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: this is the old guy talking, because I think the

1687
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 2: young guys like the different combinations and different looks and

1688
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, all black. Sometimes I am too. That's just me.

1689
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but my opinion.

1690
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals all whites, used to be a great uniform.

1691
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 3: Oh great, all right, guys, it's do some Fanatics fan questions.

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1695
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 3: this one's for you because I know you're gonna love it.

1696
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 3: Did Tank give you Fred Taylor MJD vibes yesterday breaking

1697
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 3: through those tackles?

1698
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 4: He did, he ran physical, But did he give me

1699
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 4: vibes of those guys?

1700
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 5: Absolutely not, No way, No.

1701
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, look, that's a high bar.

1702
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I.

1703
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 4: Mean you're comparing him to the Technically, he's a backup

1704
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 4: running back right now, and you're comparing him to the

1705
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 4: best running back ever on that team, a guy who

1706
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 4: should be Canton and a special guy who's the number

1707
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 4: two ranked running back in the franchise. So it's way

1708
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 4: too early for that. So the answer to that question

1709
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 4: is no and no.

1710
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 2: I would agree with Pete on everything, but I'll say this,

1711
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 2: I would like to see what he looks like if

1712
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: he got the ball twenty times a game.

1713
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 3: Should he be your starter?

1714
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 2: I think that the starter is more situational of kind.

1715
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 3: Of what you think he should lead the team in

1716
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 3: carries every week.

1717
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 2: I do think he I think he should have more

1718
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: carries than anyone else. Now, if you get in a

1719
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: situation where you know Travis is hot, and I mean

1720
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: I think there's nothing wrong with running right in the

1721
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: hot hand. I think there's probably plays that Travis does

1722
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 2: better than Tank. I think we have the luxury of

1723
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 2: having two very good backs. That's a that's a luxury.

1724
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: But if you're asking me who I would make the workhorse,

1725
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: I would make Tank the workhorse.

1726
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 4: Should they make it like the Ravens use Justice Hill

1727
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 4: and Derek Henton.

1728
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: I think that's a good. That's a good, that's a

1729
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: good comparison, that's a good example therapy. I think that's

1730
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 2: I didn't think of that, but yes, all.

1731
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 3: Right, to do a couple of questions about the defense.

1732
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 3: We talked about the secondary. The issues with that comeback

1733
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. What's your level of concern with

1734
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: the secondary, specifically the safety positions.

1735
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 2: It's got to be pretty high right now because we're

1736
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 2: seeing some bus you know, and and some tackling.

1737
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 5: A little yet so terrible.

1738
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 4: I got concerns, and I mean, I mean, let me

1739
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 4: say this about the two safeties. I thought both of

1740
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 4: them would take major steps forward this year, and they've

1741
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 4: actually gone in the other direction. And it's weird for

1742
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 4: Cisco because he's in a contract year. That one surprised

1743
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 4: me a little bit. Uh, he hasn't played very well.

1744
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 4: Antonio Johnson looks like at times he doesn't even want

1745
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 4: to tackle anybody.

1746
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: I don't that. So when this is.

1747
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 4: Gonna sound crazy, but Tony, when Tshawn Gibson comes back.

1748
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 5: And Winger comes back, they might play.

1749
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: Should they start, I wouldn't go that far yet. We

1750
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 2: haven't seen either of You don't know how Dewey's knees

1751
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 2: gonna be or actually back. And to Sean, Gibson's on

1752
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 2: a six game suspension, so you don't know what he's

1753
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: gonna look like when he gets back. There is concern.

1754
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 4: They've been the biggest to me, they've been the biggest

1755
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 4: disappointment in the entire team in terms of defense, those

1756
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 4: two have not played very well.

1757
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: I mean that's fair. I think a couple of bright spots.

1758
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: Monteric Brown, you know now he got beat over the

1759
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: top late on the overall physical He's not a big

1760
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 2: dude and he plays big and I mean fist. He's

1761
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 2: not fair. He's very competitive. I'm like really like, like

1762
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,799
Speaker 2: I was worried about our corner depth and then Tyson

1763
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: Campbell got hurt. I was like, oh no, I was wrong.

1764
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: Flat wrong, Monteric Brown playing good football, and the other

1765
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: real positive and I mean really interested to see what

1766
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,799
Speaker 2: they do. Coming up here pretty quickly is Vontrell Miller.

1767
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: I don't know when when Foyer comes back. How do

1768
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 2: you have vontrelle on the sideline like he's your best

1769
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: linebacker right now?

1770
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 3: Well the way they say, I'm sure that find a way,

1771
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:01,599
Speaker 3: but I don't know.

1772
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 2: How he's not on the field every now.

1773
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 5: The hockey team will find a way to get him

1774
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 5: twenty five.

1775
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, I mean, he's I mean,

1776
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 2: he's a tackling machine. When he hits you, you.

1777
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 5: Make a splash.

1778
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 4: Plays makes splash plays, give them.

1779
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 2: He got his coverage needs to improve. I agree with that. People.

1780
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 4: When he covered the one guy and man the man coverage,

1781
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 4: he went out and made a play on him, and

1782
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 4: he and.

1783
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: His speed shuts down those stuff in the shuts down

1784
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: stuff in the flat. He gets there really quickly. He's

1785
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: got to stay on the field no matter what.

1786
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 5: He has to stay on the field, all right, And

1787
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 5: you just got you have to admit a mistake.

1788
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: Which one here we go, keep going, guy, don't don't bite,

1789
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 2: don't bite, don't bite, don't bite.

1790
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna do our final.

1791
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 2: I'm a skip.

1792
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 3: I'm a skip one. We're gonna do our final. Fan question,

1793
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 3: do the boys get it done and come back from

1794
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 3: London three and four?

1795
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: I'll let Pete go first. I'm gonna say they do.

1796
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 4: All right, Tony, Well, they're definitely gonna get one because

1797
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 4: they'll beat New England and I think they'll beat the Bears.

1798
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 4: I'm not crazy of the Bears like some people are.

1799
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 4: I still think the quarterbacks got issues. I think the

1800
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 4: offensive lines got issues. I think that they'll find a

1801
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 4: way to win it.

1802
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say not only do I think they're gonna

1803
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: come back three and four. I'm gonna lock. Everyone's gonna

1804
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: three and four. I'm not gonna allow Pete the Lockett. No,

1805
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna No, he's not because the last time we

1806
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 2: double locked it was a disaster. Triple lock. No, triple

1807
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 2: lock has been really negative. Although you've never looked, j P.

1808
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 3: Tri block might be tripl might be great.

1809
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: You can double, you can do a double. I'm comfortable

1810
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 2: doing a double lock with you. I'm not with Pete

1811
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 2: or JP.

1812
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 5: I'm not in.

1813
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 3: I'm not in all right, double Lockett.

1814
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 2: Double locket Kai with the lock I'm in Let's.

1815
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 3: Go Monday Happy our first of the year.

1816
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 4: When they come back from London and they don't get

1817
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 4: either one of them to start talking about the.

1818
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 3: Drill, J can deal with it then.

1819
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 2: So the beautiful thing is Kai has no accountability this

1820
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 2: thing because we come back. Kyle's what shock for the

1821
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: one after London is.

1822
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 4: He Oh, yeah, you're gonna have to be here work.

1823
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: Let's go on. It's not gonna go poorly. We're gonna

1824
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: do it. That's gonna be great, got it, wins, I

1825
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 2: love it all.

1826
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 3: Right, stay with us here on Diagon's Happy ar presented

1827
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 3: by mister Chubby's coming Back. We'll talk about what else

1828
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 3: is going on in the NFL.

1829
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: And then CBS said early in the game that you

1830
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: and Gabe.

1831
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 4: Kind of got into it and you maybe even threw

1832
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 4: a tablet.

1833
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 3: Was there was there an exchange over there on the sideline?

1834
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:41,919
Speaker 7: It down firmly?

1835
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 6: Now, uh yeah, we were set it down roughly, yeah.

1836
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 7: Exactly loosely. Yeah, I mean we're just it happens in

1837
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 7: this game.

1838
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 6: I mean if you people that have played it, no,

1839
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 6: people that have it probably don't really understand all the

1840
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 6: emotions I go into it and and there was some frustration.

1841
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 7: We had a little back and forth and cleared it up.

1842
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 7: That's all it is, you know.

1843
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 6: I think that's what stuff like that's important. And I

1844
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 6: love when stuff like that happens. You confront issues and hey,

1845
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 6: if I'm pissed about something, he's pissed about something, let's

1846
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 6: talk about it and move on.

1847
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 7: And we did a great job of that.

1848
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 6: You know, Gabe's always good at communicating, so got on

1849
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 6: the same page quick and it was good back here.

1850
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 3: I'm happy our quarterback. Trevor Lawrence, addressing the reports on

1851
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 3: the broadcast about him and gave Davis getting into it

1852
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 3: on the sideline, Tony said, sometimes you get into it

1853
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 3: and then oh gosh, we're all friends now again.

1854
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: It's it's a non story. What Trevor said is exactly right.

1855
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,839
Speaker 2: Anybody who's played the game, coached the game, or covered

1856
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 2: the game closely, it's a non issue. I mean, I've

1857
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: been involved in heated discussions with players and a lot

1858
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 2: of time coaches in the heat of the battle. Why

1859
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 2: because it matters. It's important. You're competitive. If you can

1860
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 2: be frustrated, you want things going better. Whatever it is,

1861
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: and I think emotion's good. And I always laugh at

1862
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: sometimes the media does this, sometimes our fans do this.

1863
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 2: Is you hear them say we want players to care

1864
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: and have emotion and be all in and then something

1865
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: that where emotion, you know, I use just you know,

1866
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 2: I might've gotten a couple of personal fouls when I played,

1867
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 2: or you're get to a fight or it blows up

1868
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 2: on the sideline and everyone's like, oh, you can't do that.

1869
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: You have to have more self control, Like listen, what

1870
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 2: do you want? This is an emotional game, and guys

1871
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 2: put a lot into it. And by the way, we're

1872
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 2: laying our bodies on the line, you're risking like your

1873
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 2: health and like you care. Yes, you get paid a

1874
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 2: lot of money, but it's important to you. And when

1875
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 2: you have emotion and you all in on something and

1876
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 2: it's not going the way you want, sometimes tempers are

1877
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,560
Speaker 2: gonna flare and things are going to be said. And

1878
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 2: I don't even get into what happens in the locker

1879
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 2: room on the practice field. Sometime that's okay. Now it's

1880
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 2: not okay. If it bubbles over and it carries over

1881
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 2: and it becomes personal, it causes a wedge in the

1882
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 2: locker room, which obviously it has not. But in the

1883
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 2: heat of the moment, you let your emotion out, you

1884
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 2: get it out, you deal with it, and you move

1885
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 2: on and your teammates and your you know, friends and

1886
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 2: your you know, working peers, and all the things that

1887
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 2: go into it, and you move on and going to

1888
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 2: the next thing. That's part of it, and that's part

1889
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 2: of playing that it's not a big deal.

1890
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 5: It's never a big deal.

1891
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 4: But but here's what it what I would like to though,

1892
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 4: And I don't know if anybody asked the question.

1893
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 2: What was it about.

1894
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 3: This was after the third down where he was wide

1895
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 3: open and they went to brentsvill st the short on

1896
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 3: the sticks and then they didn't get the fourth This

1897
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 3: was right after that possession.

1898
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he did before the gate.

1899
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 4: He's got him on the second level and he throws

1900
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 4: to the left side for a short completion on third

1901
01:31:58,439 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 4: down that set him up and fourth and.

1902
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 3: One wanted to I would assume he want.

1903
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 4: Okay, and in fairness he was open, and in fairness

1904
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 4: to Trevor, it ain't exactly like Gabe Davis, you.

1905
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,560
Speaker 2: Know, was a bullet getting to get there either. So

1906
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 2: I'll just say this. I mean, first of all, this

1907
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: is what receivers do.

1908
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 3: You want them to want the ball?

1909
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 4: And you know he learned from you know where he

1910
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 4: learned from, don't you well?

1911
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 2: But Pete, I'm not I'm not gonna touch gave Davis

1912
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 2: right now. I'm gonna go back to when you cover

1913
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 2: the team. Did you ever hear Keenan, who was never

1914
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 2: not open say anything?

1915
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 4: Hey, look, John Osher and myself will swear to this day,

1916
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 4: and I tell I told Keenan this to his face.

1917
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 5: And keen is a wide receiver coach now so and he's.

1918
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: A good maybe the best one, the one of the

1919
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 2: best in the league.

1920
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 4: And I used to tell him Keenan was happier when

1921
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 4: he caught eleven for one seventy touchdown than he was

1922
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 4: when he caught two for fourteen and they won. If

1923
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 4: they lost, he he takes eleven and the loss, then

1924
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 4: the two in the win.

1925
01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 2: It's not It's not. Keenan was one of the teammates

1926
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 2: I've ever had. But Keenan and Jimmy they wanted the ball.

1927
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 5: And when he went to champ it was meaning in

1928
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 5: me Sean, and.

1929
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 2: I'll say it's an offensive linement I've got had it

1930
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 2: out with quarterbacks. Of course, get rid of it, throw it?

1931
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 2: What are you doing back there? And they're yelling at us?

1932
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 2: Attack it hit me time? Why are you getting hit?

1933
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's emotional out there. So it's a

1934
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: non story now where it becomes a story, and we've

1935
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,640
Speaker 2: seen this in the league, if either one of the

1936
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 2: parties carries it over to the locker room and it

1937
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 2: goes on for days and weeks, that's when it becomes

1938
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 2: because now you have to have other people in the

1939
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 2: locker room asking questions what's going on as their divide.

1940
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, it became an issue.

1941
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: He became an issue. But if you just deal with it,

1942
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 2: like Trevor said, you squashed it, it motion. Okay, We're good.

1943
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 2: Fact it's non fact. It's not a big deal, all right.

1944
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 3: For eleven years, dream Finders Homes has been proud to

1945
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 3: call themselves the official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1946
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 3: Was it dreamfinders Holmes dot Com for all of the

1947
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 3: available inventory? And Go Jags? Just a couple of minutes

1948
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 3: left to go? Pete, what was the what was the

1949
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:14,480
Speaker 3: best game you watched this weekend? Ravens and Bengals.

1950
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 5: It was fantastic.

1951
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 4: Up and down the field they went, and they go

1952
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 4: to overtime and the Ravens give the ball away and

1953
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 4: overtime on a on a box snap and the Bengals

1954
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 4: play for their long field goal. By the way, they

1955
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 4: didn't play to get any more yards and the holder

1956
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:31,759
Speaker 4: dropped the drop the snap and next play Derrick Henry

1957
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 4: go They miss it. Derek Henry goes sixty yards, they

1958
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 4: make a field goal point black and win the game.

1959
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 4: Now the Bengals are sitting there at one and four.

1960
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,799
Speaker 4: Great game, though Joe Burrow five touchdown passes.

1961
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 2: I thought Burrow's comment I read I didn't hear it

1962
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: basically saying we are not a championship football team right now.

1963
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 3: They're one and four.

1964
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 5: It's true, and he doesn't and he says they not

1965
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 5: that they can't be. It's just right now, they're not

1966
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 5: right defensive.

1967
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 2: And I read something and maybe this was an X

1968
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 2: so maybe this is just non true. Pete, you'd know

1969
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 2: or you have a sense that t Higgins might be

1970
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 2: available at the trade trade Daniel trade deadline because of

1971
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 2: some friction or something going on there.

1972
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 4: Well, he has and plus he he has a new

1973
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 4: he wants a new contract. They haven't you know, they

1974
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 4: haven't given it to him.

1975
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 2: They haven't paid him or Chase, Yeah, better pay Chase.

1976
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 2: He's he's not very good.

1977
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 3: Is he?

1978
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

1979
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 5: My god?

1980
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 4: I think Brian Thomas is on his way to be

1981
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 4: in that kind of player though?

1982
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:27,640
Speaker 3: Is LSU wide receivers?

1983
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 2: I mean, how did elis you ever lose Justin Jefferson

1984
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase? Uh the neighbors?

1985
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 4: Was Joe Burrow throwing it justin? Think about this was

1986
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow throwing it Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and

1987
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 4: it was Jade Daniels throwing to Brian Thomas.

1988
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,719
Speaker 3: And how they ever lose?

1989
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:49,919
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess.

1990
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 5: Remember they won the National that's sure.

1991
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 2: He never did. But have Jadon Daniels ever lose a game?

1992
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 3: Texans beat the Bills as well, which is not great

1993
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,719
Speaker 3: for us in the division, But it's up with the back.

1994
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 5: That was Josh Allen was the receivers were bad.

1995
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 4: He wasn't good, and they still found themselves with the

1996
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 4: ball down on the you know, point blank range down

1997
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 4: three and they couldn't get in after after Stroud fumble,

1998
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 4: they couldn't get a touchdown and then they played it

1999
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 4: at the end of the game. They got the ball

2000
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 4: back with like thirty seconds and through three passes and

2001
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 4: they llwed him and then they punted and they had

2002
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 4: a time out and they let him go kick the

2003
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 4: field goal.

2004
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 5: Terrible game management.

2005
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 2: The uh and Josh Allen got beat up, Pete.

2006
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 4: But the Texans haven't been as good as I thought

2007
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 4: they would be.

2008
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 5: Just yet.

2009
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 3: Just yet.

2010
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 2: Well they are four and one. They got a nice

2011
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 2: little but.

2012
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 5: They played a lot. Think about it. Jacksonville probably should

2013
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 5: have beat him, could have lost yesterday.

2014
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 2: They and Bears took him to the mat to the end.

2015
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 5: Right, they haven't.

2016
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 4: I thought this was gonna be a year where they

2017
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 4: became dynamic on offense and hasn't worked out that way.

2018
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 2: And the Colts took him to the end too. Yeah,

2019
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 2: they've They've won a lot of close games. Give them credit.

2020
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Cowboy is wanted at one am so over

2021
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 3: the Steelers.

2022
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:03,560
Speaker 5: That was amazing.

2023
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,639
Speaker 2: Did you stay up for that, Pete? Hell yeah, Oh

2024
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 2: not me. I'm too old. I went to sleep catching

2025
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 2: the wall.

2026
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 3: All right, guys, you have any I don't have full

2027
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 3: time because we' running late on time. You got a

2028
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 3: Monday Night football pick Saints and Chiefs.

2029
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: Chiefs. Chiefs again cheeks Chiefs have they have some weapon issues?

2030
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the question is who's gonna Who's gonna step out?

2031
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 5: Don't get the ball to worthy A bunch of different ways.

2032
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 2: And one more thing.

2033
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 4: Derek Carr struggles against He's one and five against Steve Spagnola.

2034
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 4: You know why, Tony because they glitzed the hot of

2035
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 4: him and don't like it.

2036
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 3: Yep, blitz wi splitz. Taylor Swift is gonna be in

2037
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 3: the building. Chiefs probably go to five.

2038
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 2: And oh that means my daughter will be watching as

2039
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: she should. She's a big swiftie, as she should.

2040
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 3: All right, Victory Monday Happy Hour. Thank you for joining us,

2041
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 3: Kinani Stevens, j P. Shadwick will be back with these

2042
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 3: guys next week. Enjoyed