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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. The economists latest poll has Trump at

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Speaker 1: a thirty four percent approval rate in we have such

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Speaker 1: a great show for you today, the nation's own gen

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Speaker 1: here stops by to talk about Trump toying with declaring

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Speaker 1: an emergency for the midterm. Then we'll talk to Kansas

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Speaker 1: state senator and Democratic nominee for governor in the state

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Speaker 1: of Kansas, Cindy Holscher. But first the news.

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Speaker 2: Smiley, we saw just this ridiculous press conference where Trump

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Speaker 2: couldn't be bothered to stay awake yesterday where him and

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior decided to destroy our vaccines because RFK is

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Speaker 2: a delusional freek who reads Kook commentary on vaccines and

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Speaker 2: Bill Cassidy. He's so upset. Who could have stopped this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh wait, Bill Cassidy could have stop this by

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Speaker 1: not voting for our FK Junior as giving him the

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Speaker 1: number one health position in our government. Look, here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: This is. I want to I'm going to redo guys.

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Speaker 1: The second headline, the sort of deck over in the

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Speaker 1: New York Times article about this because I think it's

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Speaker 1: an important, very relevant piece of reporting. Okay, so Trump

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Speaker 1: signs executive order calling for fewer childhood vaccines, and then

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Speaker 1: here's the deck. It is not clear whether the order,

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Speaker 1: the president's third to address the topic in less than

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Speaker 1: a year, has any legal power. That's because it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Look what will this do? It will create yet another

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Speaker 1: world in which Trump's supporters decide they don't want to

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Speaker 1: do vaccines, which is stupid and bad. But it's theater

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Speaker 1: to try to shore up the base and try to

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Speaker 1: make Trump's people happy with him. Why is he doing it?

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Speaker 1: By the way, vaccines are actually pretty popular childhood vaccines

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Speaker 1: like COVID vaccines. They're really an eighty twenty issue if

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Speaker 1: you look at the polling, and they've only become more

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Speaker 1: of that since the measles outbreak. So Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: trying to get to his base. He's trying to get

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Speaker 1: them excited for the midterms. He's trying to get them

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Speaker 1: to turn out. He brought RFK into his administration for

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Speaker 1: two reasons. One because he likes Kennedy's because he feels

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Speaker 1: that they are good for you know, the TV of

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Speaker 1: his the theater of his administration. But the other reason

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Speaker 1: why is because RFK has a real had a real group,

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Speaker 1: didn't like bad scenes. Because of COVID, that group is

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Speaker 1: not what it once was. And remember RFK has disappointed

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Speaker 1: those people in numerous ways. Forever chemicals back in the

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Speaker 1: water round up no longer banned. The Trump EPA is

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Speaker 1: like is like practically a pr firm for chemical companies now.

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Speaker 1: So the idea that RFK Junior is somehow, you know,

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Speaker 1: bringing anyone to the table is negligible, and that is

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Speaker 1: why we're seeing these insane maga vaccine mandate situations. But

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Speaker 1: it ultimately it's political theater as much as it's anything.

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Speaker 2: Definitely cool theater. So I think this is pretty interesting

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Speaker 2: that we're increasingly increasingly seeing that Congress does not want

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Speaker 2: to be accountable and do town halls. This used to

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Speaker 3: I think back to.

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Speaker 2: During the Bush era or even the Obama era, that

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Speaker 2: that there would be all these interruptions, there'd be these headlines.

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Speaker 2: Trackers for opposing campaigns would find footage of somebody telling

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Speaker 2: That is disappearing because all these people know what they're

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Speaker 2: doing is very unpopular.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, here is the situation. Republicans know

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Speaker 1: Only eleven. This used to be so common, and it's

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Speaker 1: because voters are mad, right. The Republicans got screamed at

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Speaker 1: Here's a great example. Chuck Edwards. You know him. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the fearing of your own base should

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Speaker 2: be good enough reason to never get elected again. But

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Speaker 2: we have to a little more civic education there. So

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Speaker 2: one of the things Donald Trump is known for being

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Speaker 1: So that's a really important story. It's in Politico, and

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Speaker 1: I think that voters need to know this.

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Speaker 4: Members of Donald Trump's political team asked Ohio Republicans last

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Speaker 4: week not to wage a public pressure campaign against embattled

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Speaker 1: So this is Max Miller who has allegations of domestic

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Speaker 1: violence from Stephanie Grisham, White House Press secretary for Malania

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Speaker 1: defends him. But the Donald Trump political team why why why? Well,

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Speaker 1: perhaps one of the reasons why is because in Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump world, allegations of domestic violence are not disqualifying. And this,

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Speaker 1: my friend, is really disturbing. And again, you will say

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Speaker 1: to me, while Democrats dad ran in Maine a guy

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Speaker 1: called grand Platner. Well, here's the difference. When allegations of

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Speaker 1: violence against women and children is not disqualifying. And that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really says a lot. So one of the more

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Speaker 2: ridiculous culture wars. We see is always that the Republican

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Speaker 2: Party has this set that somehow really is against birth

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Speaker 2: Right being absolutely triggered by AOC showing how she's undergoing

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Speaker 1: I think we should start at the beginning here and

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Speaker 1: a way of preserving their fertility. She's thirty six years old.

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Speaker 1: We know that eggs get less good as you get older,

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Speaker 1: and she wants to have kids. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: Why do not a lot of people talk about this?

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Speaker 1: same Republicans who are mad that people aren't having families. Okay,

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Speaker 1: these are the same Republicans. And the truth is, if

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Speaker 1: sure that you can do that. But the right is furious.

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Speaker 1: they're furious because like they want women not to work. Right, Like,

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Speaker 1: here's Matt Walsh. Sheilter in thirty seven. In a couple

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Speaker 1: to me. He's laser focused on affordability. They're mad at

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Speaker 1: that's what this really is. And they are mad at

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Speaker 1: here's the you've got. Katie Miller actually did come out

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Speaker 1: and she said, some kids are better than zero kids

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Speaker 1: if you're going to increase the birth rate, I can't

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Speaker 1: be purised about how it happens.

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Speaker 1: I think she's right, and I think that the idea. Look,

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Speaker 1: There are people who can't have babies except for IBF,

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Speaker 5: Welcome, Welcome, Oh, it's great to be on the program.

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Speaker 1: So we have Jess is now going to play a

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Speaker 6: So let me put an idea in your head. Okay,

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Speaker 6: because it's so hard to get the Senate to do anything.

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Speaker 1: Now they're on recess.

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Speaker 3: They don't get anything done.

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Speaker 6: If they never get to Save America Act done. You

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Speaker 6: have the right to declare a national security emergency for elections,

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Speaker 6: and the Supreme Court ruled in nineteen eighty three under

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Speaker 6: Reagan that I ins versus Shata that if you declare

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Speaker 6: a national security emergency as the president of the United States,

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Speaker 6: they can't challenge it. It can only be overturned by

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Speaker 6: a two thirds vote of both houses of Congress. So

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Speaker 6: if you do this in the next month, we will

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Speaker 6: get photo ID proof of citizenship and a limit to

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Speaker 1: And so that's Wayne Allan Root. His spelling of Allan

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Speaker 1: is interesting. Wayne Allen Root. He is a radio host

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Speaker 1: on Real America's voice. And he's come up with a

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Speaker 1: plan for Donald Trump in the midterms.

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Speaker 5: Discuss Well, there's a couple of things to say here,

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Speaker 5: one of which is the way in which the Trump

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Speaker 5: administration works. I think sort of historians of twentieth century

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Speaker 1: Wayne Allen, roots of Nazi Germany.

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Speaker 5: Wanted to please the far I came up with various

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Speaker 5: And I think that there has been this sort of

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Speaker 5: the right where like you you see people you know,

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Speaker 5: like Matt Walsh is like a lunatic, you know, he's

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Speaker 5: obsessed with trans issues and in a really ugly way.

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Speaker 5: But I mean he himself acknowledges like Groacy Rice is

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Speaker 5: a problem. But you get people like Crunshaw and Ben Shapiro,

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Speaker 5: and these are all very wealthy people, by the way,

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Speaker 5: like you know, you know, in a Hollywood family with

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Speaker 5: up in Great Wolf and he's saying, like, if you're

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Speaker 5: paying twenty dollars for brito, that's your problem. And and

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Speaker 5: then a lot of the people are making arguments are

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Speaker 5: basically like wartime austerity, you know, like like.

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Speaker 1: That nobody has that, nobody has explained to you why

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Speaker 1: we're happening.

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Speaker 5: Well exactly, but but I mean, you know, like and

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Speaker 5: that's an argument, you know, like it is true that

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Speaker 5: like during the American Revolution, Civil War, the two World Wars,

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Speaker 5: people did like you know, grow their own food in

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Speaker 5: their gardens, tried to help the cause. But those were

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Speaker 5: like causes that people supported, and.

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Speaker 1: We're even understood, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: Like it's not just the case that like the war

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Speaker 5: and around is not worth the life of a single

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Speaker 5: American service person. I think the war around is not

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Speaker 5: worth the price of a single burrito. Yeah, Like the

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Speaker 5: vast majority of Americans agree with that. They would not

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Speaker 5: want to pay like war for burritos for this war

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Speaker 5: that no one has actually like given a good explanation.

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Speaker 1: For what The Gulf War, which was unpopular, at least

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Speaker 1: we had lived through nine to eleven, so we understood

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Speaker 1: even though the hijackers hijackers had really come from Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 1: we understood that it was important to go to war

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Speaker 1: with the Rock because Okay, but at least there was

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Speaker 1: some little bit of an explanation here, It's like, well next,

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Speaker 1: I mean, basically, the best explanation we've gotten is that

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Speaker 1: net Nyahu convinced Trump to do it by telling him

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Speaker 1: it would be short. And months and months later, what

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Speaker 1: we learn is that nobody had read a book about

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Speaker 1: the traits of her moves and how completely, you know,

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Speaker 1: how they were going to turn off the straits, which

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Speaker 1: they did, and now Donald Trump is desperate to get

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Speaker 1: them to open the streets because the truth is that

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Speaker 1: high gas prices are for Trump worse than anything the

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Speaker 1: Iranians could do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. No, absolutely. I mean Trump created his own mass

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Speaker 5: to like ignorance, and I think he was a little bit,

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Speaker 5: as you said, high on his own supply to I

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Speaker 5: think the Venezuela operation was basically done to convince Trump

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Speaker 5: that war could be very easy. I'm sure it's easy

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Speaker 5: if you have like people, but that's a situation in Iran,

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Speaker 5: and I think Trump is in this mass and he

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Speaker 5: knows it, and he knows things are going bad. And

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Speaker 5: I think what makes it a scary situation is that

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Speaker 5: he also has people he's listening to who tell him,

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Speaker 5: you know, you don't have to accept the mid terms,

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Speaker 5: like you know, the Democrats are going to be cheating.

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Speaker 5: There's these mail in ballots, you know, or whatever, and

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Speaker 5: then you can use an emergency power. And I'll say, like,

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Speaker 5: since we did the history lesson, like it's worth noting

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Speaker 5: that like during the Civil War, you know, where like

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Speaker 5: hundreds of thousands of Americans who were dying and fighting

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Speaker 5: each other, they had elections the two.

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Speaker 1: World wars, I mean, what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 5: So that's the idea that like there's any justification for

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Speaker 5: like suppressing elections now is crazy, but it's crazy enough

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Speaker 5: that Trump will do.

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Speaker 1: What might do that? And I think that what's important

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Speaker 1: to remember here is there are a number of organizations

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Speaker 1: that have lawyers who are ready to go and get

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Speaker 1: you know, this is never gonna fly, Like this will

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Speaker 1: go to the Supreme Even this Supreme Court, which is

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Speaker 1: very very trumpy, Alito and Thomas will sign off on

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Speaker 1: anything Donald Trump wants. But you know who won't is

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Speaker 1: the other justices. So like the other seven justices are

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Speaker 1: not going to go along with this. So even if

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump thinks he can try this, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to work. And that's what people need to know is

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Speaker 1: their votes are safe, their votes are going to be counted.

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Speaker 1: All of this is just Donald Trump's own panic.

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Speaker 5: No, I think I think that's right all. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think it's also a dangerous situation because I think

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Speaker 5: he will he will try it, and I think that

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Speaker 5: they've also unlike twenty twenty, like you said, it's purged

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Speaker 5: the military. So I think that I think it's good.

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Speaker 5: It's a more of a crisis than in the past

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Speaker 5: because I think that some of the guardrails are not there.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, I think your basic message is right.

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Speaker 5: People should be voting. They shouldn't like be in fear.

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Speaker 5: This can be fought, but it's gonna have to be

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Speaker 5: fought with lawyers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Also, I think with mobilization, I think if enough

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Speaker 5: people are on the street, which I think what it

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Speaker 5: might come down to, like, yeah, yeah, I think there's

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Speaker 5: there's I mean, I don't think he can win this,

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Speaker 5: but I think it's it's gonna be a real fight,

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Speaker 5: and I think I think we have to gear up

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Speaker 5: with it with every means necessary, which includes the lawyers,

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Speaker 5: but it will also includes people doing the kind of

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Speaker 5: you know, direct action that we've seen in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: No King's rallies too. I mean, we've seen like Americans

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Speaker 1: are good mobilizing, and they're good at getting out in

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Speaker 1: the streets, and they're good at pro peacefully protesting. They

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Speaker 1: just need to know when and where, and we will

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Speaker 1: keep them abreast.

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Speaker 5: But people have to prepare for it.

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Speaker 1: People have to prepare for the worst and will hopefully

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Speaker 1: all be present pleasantly surprised. And the words of Wayne

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Speaker 1: Allen Root from Real America's voice will not linger ged here.

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Speaker 1: I think there's things happen stranger things have happened.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Cindy Hoscher is a state senator representing Kansas's eighth district

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Speaker 1: and a Democratic nominee for governor. Welcome to Fast Politics, Sindy.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping you can explain a little bit about

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Speaker 1: your victory running for governor in the great state of Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Talk us through what happened with your primary victory, what

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Speaker 1: it looks like, and where you are right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, great, thank you.

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Speaker 7: I started on this journey about fifteen months ago, just

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Speaker 7: kind of exploring to see the potential of possibly running

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Speaker 7: for governor. And what I noticed at that point was

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Speaker 7: that the feelings in Kansas, in terms of where they

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Speaker 7: were and how they were feeling about the federal level

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Speaker 7: as well as the state level, looked very different.

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Speaker 3: It sounded very different than it had in years past.

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Speaker 7: And what I'm talking about is every session, or every

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Speaker 7: summer after our legislative session, I do town halls across

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Speaker 7: the state and usually I do about eight or ten

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Speaker 7: of them. Last summer, though, I ended up doing over

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Speaker 7: seventy because people were just feeling very anxious because of

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Speaker 7: some of the federal policies that you know, had come

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Speaker 7: about because of President Trump. The tariffs were having a

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Speaker 7: big impact, and we have this affordability crisis all across

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Speaker 7: the state. So what I was seeing is people getting

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Speaker 7: engaged who haven't been before, and that showed me there's

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Speaker 7: a path to victory. So I went a hand, decided

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Speaker 7: to run for office, made it through a challenging primary,

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Speaker 7: and honestly, I think I made it through because of

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Speaker 7: the fact I have a winning track record of winning

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Speaker 7: very tough races against tough opponents and red areas and

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Speaker 7: delivering results for people across Kansas.

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Speaker 3: So I like to tell people, you know, a number

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Speaker 3: of the bills.

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Speaker 7: I've gotten pasted are things that groundbreaking reform. In terms

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Speaker 7: of some of the bills I've gotten implemented, these aren't

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Speaker 7: license plate bills I've been doing, you know, these have

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Speaker 7: been bigger bills, like ending the brown Back experiment that

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Speaker 7: was devastating our state ten years ago. So I guess

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Speaker 7: I think that track record has helped me, and just

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Speaker 7: the fact that I've spent a lot of time across

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Speaker 7: the state over the years getting to know people and

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Speaker 7: establishing a network that has seen me get things done.

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Speaker 1: And say more about the brown Back experiment, because that

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Speaker 1: something Jesse and I are a little obsessed with.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's still fresh on our minds here in Kansas, honestly,

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Speaker 7: so Governor Brownback.

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Speaker 3: Sam Brownback was in.

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Speaker 7: Office and decided to try this quote experiment that he

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Speaker 7: said was going to be a shot of adrenaline to

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Speaker 7: the state. Not really what it was is just another

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Speaker 7: method or just another form of trickle down economics, so

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Speaker 7: people at the top got big tax breaks, and that

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Speaker 7: shifted the burden to lower income and basically led to

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Speaker 7: the state having to cut services, including severe cuts to education,

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Speaker 7: our roads and highways. Those budgets were being swept and

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Speaker 7: at the time, my children were in grade school and

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Speaker 7: we were seeing these huge cuts and the impact we

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Speaker 7: were losing teachers, we didn't have supplies, and some of

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Speaker 7: our classrooms even had shower curtains for doors. I mean,

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Speaker 7: that's where we were in terms of the impact of

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Speaker 7: this experiment. So one weekend, my daughter and I she

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Speaker 7: was twelve at the time, we had gone to a

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Speaker 7: target to pick up a few supplies and we saw

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Speaker 7: one of her teachers there working and my daughter was

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Speaker 7: just blown away by the fact that her teacher was

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Speaker 7: working two.

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Speaker 3: Jobs to get by.

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Speaker 7: And when I explained her, we're in this brown back

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Speaker 7: experiment or teacher has to work a second job to

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Speaker 7: be able to pay her bills, my daughter looked.

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Speaker 3: At me and she said, you go fix that. That's wrong.

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Speaker 7: And that hit me in terms of the fact that

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Speaker 7: where we were at that point in time, we had

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Speaker 7: this large group of lawmakers who were really had been

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Speaker 7: committed to this brown Back experiment even though it was

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Speaker 7: going horribly So I started to think about, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's going to take reasonable people stepping forward to get

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Speaker 7: us out of this. And that's why I first ran

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Speaker 7: for office and in my very first term was a

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Speaker 7: co founder the Women's bipars and Caucus. We're the group

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Speaker 7: that put together the bill that ended the experiment to

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Speaker 7: get us back track, and we've made some good progress

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Speaker 7: over the years, but there's still a lot more to

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Speaker 7: be done because over the past couple of election cycles

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Speaker 7: there's been a large number of mag extremas elected to

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Speaker 7: the legislature who really keep attacking our schools, keep attacking

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Speaker 7: our rights, and keep trying to take us back to

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Speaker 7: the brown back experiment for something worse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love And in fact, brown back is

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Speaker 1: how you have a democratic governor right now, right yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So a democratic governor is not a pipe dream in

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Speaker 1: your state. So talk us through what you think kind

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Speaker 1: of needs to happen here to secure another democratic victory

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Speaker 1: in the state of Kansas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's the realization that we on the what

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Speaker 7: we have seen on the state level has been just

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Speaker 7: a series of policies that really benefit wealthy folks, billionaires

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Speaker 7: and corporations, and the people are feeling that. Again, there's

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Speaker 7: an affordability crisis all across the state. So it's basically

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Speaker 7: showing people that there is a better way. My opponent,

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Speaker 7: Ty Masterson, wants to take us back to something worse

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Speaker 7: than the brown Back era, and people have already seen

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Speaker 7: a glimpse of that, and they've seen a glimpse of

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Speaker 7: that with Trump on the federal level. We can't handle

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Speaker 7: a double dose of those types of politics. Kansas can't

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Speaker 7: afford time. Masterson, who is a Trump want to be.

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Speaker 7: And again, there's a different pathway there that we want

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Speaker 7: to make sure people know about in terms of the

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Speaker 7: fact that we can solve these issues of affordability.

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Speaker 3: We can get our schools funded.

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Speaker 7: It's just a matter of taking the focus off giving

655
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Speaker 7: these continued tax breaks to wealthy folks and donors that

656
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Speaker 7: have been propping up the other guys.

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Speaker 1: So I would love you to talk for a minute

658
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Speaker 1: about So I've interviewed a ton of local people, like,

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Speaker 1: for example, in Iowa, I've interviewed Josh Turrip and of

660
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Speaker 1: course Rob sand who is incredible and one of the

661
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Speaker 1: things that I was struck by in Iowa. Iowa has

662
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Speaker 1: very specific problems like cancer. Our businesses have polluted the

663
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Speaker 1: water supply. You've got a much higher rate of cancer

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Speaker 1: in Iowa, and that is something he's running on. Anti

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Speaker 1: data centers is another thing. Talk to me about what

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Speaker 1: your local in Kansas. What are the problems in Kansas

667
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Speaker 1: that we do not see at the national level.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, property taxes, it's a huge issue here in terms

669
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Speaker 7: of the fact that we have people being priced out

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Speaker 7: of their homes. That comes down to again stopping those

671
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 7: giveaways to the billionaires and the wealthy corporations, and additionally

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Speaker 7: making sure our schools are fully funded. Because when the

673
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Speaker 7: state level does not fulfill its obligation, that burden gets

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Speaker 7: shifted to the local level. Mixed property taxes go up.

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Speaker 7: So that's a huge issue. Additionally, data centers it's big

676
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Speaker 7: here too. And I will tell you I really started

677
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 7: hearing about that issue this spring as I was doing

678
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Speaker 7: town halls across the state. Every community, every person across

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Speaker 7: the state, Republican, Democratic, Independent, they are absolutely concerned about

680
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Speaker 7: the potential impact of these hyper scale data centers coming

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Speaker 7: to their communities.

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Speaker 1: I wonder when you talk about data centers, is it also, like,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I want you to talk about property

684
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Speaker 1: taxes because is the property tax saying that when you'll

685
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Speaker 1: your property taxes go up. Do you have that same

686
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Speaker 1: thing in California on yournesses and the property tax station

687
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Speaker 1: table that create make it harder to sell houses or

688
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Speaker 1: how does that work? What are the issues there?

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Speaker 7: Really what's happening is those annual evaluations. People are seeing

690
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Speaker 7: huge increases and it's just consistently been happening year after

691
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Speaker 7: year and again that comes partly because of the burden

692
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Speaker 7: of school funding being shifted to the local levels, but

693
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Speaker 7: also what we've seen is so many exemptions.

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Speaker 3: Over the year.

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Speaker 7: You know, every Republican legislator has brought in their pet

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Speaker 7: project in terms of an exemption for donors or you know,

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Speaker 7: someone in their community, and we now have this patchwork

698
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Speaker 7: quilt of exemptions that has made it very regressive. So,

699
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Speaker 7: like I said, that's how we've gotten to this point

700
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Speaker 7: essentially that we have to fix.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about data centers. What is the story

702
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Speaker 1: with the big problems with data centers. There are numerous problems,

703
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Speaker 1: but the big ones are electricity. Where they have where

704
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Speaker 1: the electricity build goes up, there's pressure on the grid,

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Speaker 1: and then there's the water issue, so talk us through that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, what we are seeing here in Kansas in

707
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Speaker 7: terms of what people are worried about, is exactly the

708
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Speaker 7: same thing that has happened in states across the nation,

709
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Speaker 7: and people are anxious and worried about the fact that

710
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Speaker 7: if a hyperscale data center comes into their area, it's

711
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Speaker 7: going to suck up their water. We already have issues

712
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Speaker 7: in terms of the Ogalala Aquifer with impending depletion, so

713
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Speaker 7: that's a huge concern in terms of what it does

714
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Speaker 7: with that resource. And then of course we have seen

715
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Speaker 7: and heard about people and other states where their utility

716
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Speaker 7: bills have increased by eighty percent, and of course people

717
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 7: can't handle that in regular times, let alone during an

718
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Speaker 7: affordability crisis. So that is absolutely what is on their

719
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Speaker 7: minds that you know, the same thing doesn't happen here,

720
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Speaker 7: and then you know, additionally, another angle for me is

721
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Speaker 7: a fact that often we are told that these projects

722
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Speaker 7: are going to bring huge benefits to our communities and

723
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Speaker 7: to our state in terms of jobs. But what we've

724
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Speaker 7: seen happen in other states is that these companies bring

725
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Speaker 7: in their own crews, their own construction crews from out

726
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Speaker 7: of state, so then the local community and potentially wouldn't

727
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Speaker 7: even benefit in some of these cases. So I'm all

728
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Speaker 7: about welcoming economic development and helping our state, but not

729
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Speaker 7: by putting our resources in jeopardy or exploiting our people.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's gonna be something good in it for us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Now talk us through what, like how

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Speaker 1: you are going to win in this state you do doing.

733
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Speaker 1: Like one of the things I've been really impressed by

734
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Speaker 1: is candidates for governor. I'm actually thinking of a candidate

735
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Speaker 1: for governor who's a little bit controversial, but she has

736
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Speaker 1: managed to She's been basically running on town halls, like

737
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Speaker 1: just having tons and tons of town halls. So, like,

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Speaker 1: what are the ways in which your state is not

739
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Speaker 1: a humongous state, but there's a lot of ground to governor.

740
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Speaker 1: Talk us through how you're running, like the nuts and

741
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Speaker 1: bolts of it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, So many thing is getting people on board.

743
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Speaker 7: This is a republican state in terms of affiliation. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Kansan's overall are very reasonable, So they want a reasonable

745
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Speaker 7: candidate who's going to bring common sense to the capital

746
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Speaker 7: and deliver for them. So obviously you know, my job

747
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Speaker 7: is going to be showing the differences between myself and

748
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Speaker 7: my opponent, and there are huge differences. You know, where

749
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Speaker 7: he has had Di Masterson has had this super majority

750
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Speaker 7: at his disposal the past several years.

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Speaker 3: They can pass anything they want.

752
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Speaker 7: So if they really wanted to deliver property tax relief

753
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Speaker 7: or help make life more affordable, they could have done it,

754
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Speaker 7: but they have it. Instead, what we have seen are

755
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 7: things like to Charlie Kirkbill's a bathroom bill. Those are

756
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Speaker 7: things that are not putting money in people's pockets or

757
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Speaker 7: helping us. So, like I said, that's part of the

758
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Speaker 7: issue is showing the fact that there's a huge difference

759
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Speaker 7: between the candidates and what we fight for and what

760
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Speaker 7: we deliver. And I'll mention Senator Masterson actually voted against

761
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Speaker 7: ending the brown Back experiment, the very thing that was

762
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Speaker 7: destroying our state. He said, let's keep doing this again.

763
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Speaker 7: That's a huge difference in terms of where our focus is.

764
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Speaker 7: I know it's going to be critical again to get Republicans, Democrats,

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Speaker 7: and Independence on board. Fortunately, I do have a lot

766
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Speaker 7: of experience in that all four elections I've won have

767
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Speaker 7: been in red districts where I've had to do just

768
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Speaker 7: that in terms of making sure that you know, it's

769
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Speaker 7: a big tent philosophy, and what comes along with that

770
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Speaker 7: is showing that again that I deliver for the people.

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Speaker 3: And that's where my track record is. It probably does.

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Speaker 7: Help me that I grew up on a farm that

773
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Speaker 7: come from military family and a union family.

774
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Speaker 3: Those are a lot of points of connections with Cansons

775
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Speaker 3: all across the state. Can you tell us.

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Speaker 1: Through agater at this moment, because there are so many

777
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Speaker 1: ways in which farming families are being pinged right, Like

778
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Speaker 1: there's from the USAID stuff with the less you know,

779
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: buying less food, buying less farm stuff, to the you know,

780
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Speaker 1: the subsidies to the soybeans right China and the soybeans,

781
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Speaker 1: to tariffs. Talk us to what farming families are facing

782
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Speaker 1: at this moment.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it's tough. You know, the tariffs have heard

784
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Speaker 7: our farmers. Again, we have some water scarcity issues, so obviously,

785
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Speaker 7: bring in a data center into an area where we

786
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Speaker 7: already have a water problem is not you know, an

787
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 7: adequate or applicable solutions. So again with the tariffs and

788
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Speaker 7: some of the other policies that have come down, some

789
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 7: of our farmers have just simply lost their markets and

790
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 7: those markets aren't coming back. So the challenge there is

791
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Speaker 7: to help them transition. So that's what I've been looking at.

792
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Speaker 7: You know, what are the things that we can do

793
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Speaker 7: to help our farmers transition.

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Speaker 3: And keep in mind, you know.

795
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Speaker 7: That first bail out farmers were okay with that, but

796
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Speaker 7: the fact of the matter is they aren't planning crops

797
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 7: just to have them rot in the field, and you

798
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Speaker 7: know that hurts the grain elevator and the other industries

799
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Speaker 7: that are built upon those crops. So, like I said,

800
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Speaker 7: we've got to work to find a way to transition

801
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Speaker 7: these farmers to different products. So we do have some

802
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 7: availability there. And you know, there are a couple of

803
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 7: things that go through my mind. In particular, cannabis hasn't

804
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 7: been legalized here in Kansas. Is that an area that

805
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 7: we can transition farmers to. It's not an easy not

806
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 7: the easiest of transitions, but it is something that's going

807
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Speaker 7: to be available. And also, you take a look at

808
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 7: our farm to table pipeline, we probably have underutilized that.

809
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Speaker 7: And what I'm talking about is we have a lot

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Speaker 7: of schools out there in school districts that are serving

811
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Speaker 7: prepackaged meals to their children. I mean there's a great

812
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 7: opportunity there to get fresh produce things right here from Kansas,

813
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 7: you know, right to our children again. Yeah, farm to table.

814
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Speaker 7: So we have the availability out there to make some transitions.

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Speaker 1: So I would love you to just talk about what's next.

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Speaker 1: So you have the election at the midterms. Now you're

817
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Speaker 1: going to campaign and you have to sort of reach

818
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Speaker 1: out to the middle right. I mean your the goal

819
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Speaker 1: here is to get sort of disaffected Republicans, the sort

820
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Speaker 1: of list chainey voters or what.

821
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, even before the primary got here, we had started

823
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Speaker 7: forming groups, you know, to bring people in. We have

824
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Speaker 7: a Republicans for Cindy group that has started that is

825
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Speaker 7: taking off. So I've worked with a lot of these

826
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Speaker 7: folks across the states from different parties. So, like I said,

827
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Speaker 7: they're helping bring more people on board. So we have

828
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Speaker 7: efforts in that regard, and you know, I got to

829
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Speaker 7: raise a lot of money. That is part of the

830
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Speaker 7: deal in politics. I spent about eight hours a day

831
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Speaker 7: on the phone reaching out to folks across the state.

832
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Speaker 7: My opponent has indicated he's going to spend at least

833
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Speaker 7: seven million to try and defeat me. He knows I

834
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 7: can win, So, like I said, we are working aggressively

835
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Speaker 7: to raise fund So we always welcome that type of

836
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Speaker 7: help because you know, that's what it takes to in

837
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 7: reaching some of those uninformed voters. I mean, I've got

838
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 7: a great network out there, like I said, of people

839
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 7: reaching out bringing people on board, but there's always a

840
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 7: certain amount of low information or un informed voters that

841
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 7: we have to reach through our messaging.

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Speaker 1: And it's also I think it's important to like explain

843
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: to voters why Kansas, how Kansas having a democratic governor

844
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Speaker 1: will benefit them in other states.

845
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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, So here's the fact of the matter.

846
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Speaker 7: Last year time Asterson, my opponent was really really pushing redistricting.

847
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Speaker 7: And fortunately I do have a network of people across

848
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 7: the state that I was able to call upon to

849
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 7: push back against those redistricting efforts as well as you know,

850
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Speaker 7: there were other groups in the mix here too that

851
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 7: we're working to stop those measures. And as a result

852
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 7: of those efforts, redistricting never move forward because what they

853
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 7: want to do here is where you eliminate our one

854
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 7: Democratic congress person. So the implications are huge. I mean,

855
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 7: obviously the implications are huge for us here in Kansas,

856
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 7: but huge national implications in terms of that redistricting and

857
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 7: potential to lose that one Democrat that we have elected here.

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Speaker 3: So, like I said, that.

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Speaker 7: Really is the crux of what's you know, at stake

860
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 7: here nationally. And then you know, on the state level,

861
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 7: we know from the agenda that we have seen of

862
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 7: my opponent, I mean, the goal is to destroy public schools,

863
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 7: take away both rights and you know, mimic something as

864
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 7: bad as the brown Back experiment or worse compared to

865
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Speaker 7: what similar to what we've seen on the national level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is that is just a nightmare. Cindy,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Now, Jesse Cannon mai drunk fast.

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Speaker 2: So Todd Blanche gets confirmed, and who could have guessed it,

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Speaker 2: he immediately just gave Trump a huge, huge gift.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am shocked to see that the president's personal

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Speaker 1: lawyer is behaving as the president's personal lawyer. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: here's what happens. Todd Blanche writes a memo on Monday

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Speaker 1: that says that any I think he's also trying to

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Speaker 1: protect himself here, but that legal counsel argues that the

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Speaker 1: president could claim executive privilege over communications between him and

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Speaker 1: his private advisors. That's like his son. And this is

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Speaker 1: more ways to try to protect Donald Trump. Todd Blanche

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Speaker 1: is basically Donald Trump's private lawyer. And Todd Blanche knows that,

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Speaker 1: and that's why he said it during the hearings. And

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Speaker 1: you know who else knows it, Donald Trump. And so

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Speaker 1: here we are Todd Blanche, donald Trump's private lawyer, setting

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Speaker 1: up ways to protect Donald Trump from accountability. It's very

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Speaker 1: unsurprising these I mean, the senators who swore him in

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Speaker 1: thinking he would be a moderating influence. I guess he's

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Speaker 1: better than putting Corey Lubandowski in the job, but not

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Speaker 1: by much. That's it for this episode of Fast Politics.

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