Speaker 1: Hey, hey Vegas, did me in We're back?
Speaker 2: We're blass, that's what usher? Did you?
Speaker 1: What vision? Oh?
Speaker 2: What happened in Vegas? Tell me everything? You know?
Speaker 1: The right? No, right, we want to say because it's
Speaker 1: so hilarious. Is one. I don't drink, so it's not
Speaker 1: even I drank. I don't even I didn't even gamble.
Speaker 1: I meant to put at least one dollar in a
Speaker 1: slot machine, and because my sister's on gamble, we could
Speaker 1: not figure it out.
Speaker 2: I was like, not the budget, Nissa in front of
Speaker 2: a slot machine, ruin your reputation.
Speaker 1: My dad could just do at least one dollar, and
Speaker 1: I was like okay. So we were there for like
Speaker 1: five minutes, like do you put it here? I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, girl, your dad was egging you on.
Speaker 2: Yes, he would like something year old papa.
Speaker 1: So he said, do at least one dollar. I did
Speaker 1: not because I could not figure out the slot machine.
Speaker 1: But I had I.
Speaker 2: Think that's the thing where maybe you're too young to
Speaker 2: know how to work a slot machine. I think you
Speaker 2: need twenty thirty years older.
Speaker 1: But we had such a time, honestly, so it was
Speaker 1: the first time that my four sisters and I have
Speaker 1: been on a vacation no kids since like college, you know,
Speaker 1: like or like twenties, you know. So it was like
Speaker 1: such a good time. Care fluent from Chicago. The rest
Speaker 1: of us live in Jersey, so we flew together. But
Speaker 1: we had a time hunting because Vegas is known like
Speaker 1: they're no for their really great buffets and they're like
Speaker 1: quirky hotels. So we stayed at like the Park MGM
Speaker 1: because that's where Usher was performing. So we went specifically
Speaker 1: to see the Usher residency, which was ten out of ten.
Speaker 1: He still got it, you know, but we ate a lot,
Speaker 1: girl because you know, Vegas is known, like I said,
Speaker 1: for their like they're they're like buffets and things, so
Speaker 1: like the breakfast at the Bellagio, recommend it's so good.
Speaker 1: The wind Hotel Asca, Yes, the Winch Hotel has has
Speaker 1: a buffet. I would totally recommend as well. And we
Speaker 1: did like a tour because I've always I've never I
Speaker 1: went to Vegas one time before for a business trip,
Speaker 1: but I'd never seen the strip so and it was
Speaker 1: one hundred and average about one hundred and two degrees
Speaker 1: every day, like legit, like if you look. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't a walking so we took this thing called the
Speaker 1: Pink Jeep Tour, which I do recommend, which is really fun.
Speaker 1: It's like a three hour tour and it drives you
Speaker 1: along the strip. You take pictures of all the major
Speaker 1: like you know, vacancy places. So that was dope. But
Speaker 1: let's talk about this usher. So I surprised my sisters
Speaker 1: with front row seats. I couldn't tell. So I don't
Speaker 1: go to a ton of concert I know, I don't.
Speaker 2: They were on an applications for the Sister crew.
Speaker 1: You know. It was crazy because they were dramatically reduced.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. So it was Wednesday. We went
Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, and when I was looking to purchase,
Speaker 1: I couldn't get like the regular seats, you know, that's
Speaker 1: what I was looking for. Saturday Sunday. They kept selling
Speaker 1: out underneath me. And there was like this moment when
Speaker 1: like these seats from I'm like, this can't be real
Speaker 1: because they were like the half the price of what
Speaker 1: the other seats around them. I'm like, is there something
Speaker 1: wrong with these seats? But I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: kiss it up to God. I booked them and I
Speaker 1: thought it's not really front row. It must be some
Speaker 1: other No. No, I had my hand on the stage like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is where he'll stay your front row. When I
Speaker 1: tell you, Mandy, me and USh are high five twice
Speaker 1: like for real.
Speaker 2: Yes literally like casually, just like you know, quickly put
Speaker 2: one of your liverature bracelets, just transferred onto his risks.
Speaker 1: First of all, why there was these ladies in the
Speaker 1: back and said, is that the pros I was like,
Speaker 1: not tonight, I'm tipping. But so my sister Carol was like,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, yes, yes it was her, Yes exactly.
Speaker 1: So west sister Carol like she's the sister that's that
Speaker 1: like right next to me. And I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: want to tell you she got her life? I said, oh,
Speaker 1: Roman and Amelia are not getting a mommy back outside
Speaker 1: outside and when I tell you, we had such a
Speaker 1: good time. But it was first of all this fact
Speaker 1: that the man, this man is forty years old. You
Speaker 1: can see the joy of performance on his face, like
Speaker 1: the joy on his face. I mean he cried, I
Speaker 1: mean his voice was just I mean, you know, we
Speaker 1: all know Usher can blow, but it's just like you
Speaker 1: could tell that him and his dancers that they really
Speaker 1: enjoyed themselves. And so we enjoyed ourselves. I mean everyone.
Speaker 1: Like there was a woman next to me on a
Speaker 1: date with her man and we were high fiving. When
Speaker 1: Usher touched Carol's hand, she was like, girl, let me
Speaker 1: touch your hands. He threw out the Usher books. Remember
Speaker 1: there was like some scandal like a year or so
Speaker 1: ago about him throwing out Usher bucks at a strip club.
Speaker 1: But he threw out Usher Bucks. I was like, let
Speaker 1: me take one for a souvenir. But honestly, it was amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1: I've never sat that close to the concert. It's unfortunately
Speaker 1: by the time y'all listen to this, I put it
Speaker 1: in my stories, but liter really, I mean there was
Speaker 1: nobody between me and the stage and Usher. It was
Speaker 1: just such an amazing time. And I'm just so glad that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we have these like core memories that we
Speaker 1: were able to develop. And I told my sisters, we
Speaker 1: have to do this every year, like we have to
Speaker 1: do a trip, you know, like because I know, life
Speaker 1: gets so busy, see you know, but it's like my
Speaker 1: my my parents watched Roman and a Million. Karen's husband
Speaker 1: had their daughter and she was sharing with me that
Speaker 1: like he was a message to her in the morning,
Speaker 1: like I just love you so much. You're just an
Speaker 1: amazing wife and mom.
Speaker 2: It was like yeah, because he was like I don't
Speaker 2: even get that. And Rique's just like can you not die?
Speaker 2: Like can you just never go away? Because I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't realize everybody. Yeah, now women and million know
Speaker 1: how to call via their tablet. They was called every
Speaker 1: day like her man, mommy, where are you?
Speaker 2: I know, they didn't want to go to Grandma and
Speaker 2: Grandpa's what they call them? What are their what are
Speaker 2: their Granny and grandma?
Speaker 1: You know, they call them Grandma and Grandpa. But they're
Speaker 1: just like, you know, it's fun for like, you know,
Speaker 1: a few hours or a day. But she was like,
Speaker 1: because they're really big on the calendar, so they show
Speaker 1: me with them on the calendar. You coming back was
Speaker 1: like no, just ony night, just oh my gosh. And
Speaker 1: my mom was like, they're fine until you call and
Speaker 1: out there crying again. I know, but we had a time.
Speaker 1: Carol was like, girlo'm kids, be you at Grandma and
Speaker 1: Grandpa's house. And it's beautiful. They literally my parents house
Speaker 1: backs up to a park which backs up to like
Speaker 1: a a water park like pool, facility. Like the kids,
Speaker 1: they live in their best life. They just you know,
Speaker 1: they just like being home. They're like, well, can we
Speaker 1: stay at Auntie they call me aunt Auntie Udo's house.
Speaker 1: She was like, she's going with us too. So they
Speaker 1: were like no, and they were like, wait, are you
Speaker 1: staying a par of town. They wanted to tour at
Speaker 1: the hotel because they stayed at a hotel. We went
Speaker 1: to visit Karen a few weeks a few months ago.
Speaker 1: They're like, give me a tour of that hotel. I'm like,
Speaker 1: so now your hotel connoisseurs. But yeah, we had a
Speaker 1: we had a toime honey. But all my business owners.
Speaker 2: I love that it was like not during a holiday,
Speaker 2: like it was just because that's the best part because
Speaker 2: it feels special because it's your time that you guys
Speaker 2: chose to get special. And honestly too, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's important that, like, you know, like now more than ever.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously, you know, it doesn't mean you have
Speaker 2: to buy usher tickets, but taking the time to live
Speaker 2: well now, you know what I mean, like to be
Speaker 2: like you know what is like is it a walk,
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a nap, Maybe it's.
Speaker 1: You know, like what is it that you can lean into?
Speaker 1: You know, have you not spoken to your bestie in
Speaker 1: a while, have lunch with her, you know, to really
Speaker 1: just lean in. And that's what I've just been trying
Speaker 1: to do, is like, you know, because sometimes I do
Speaker 1: this thing where I hold off, oh when this happens,
Speaker 1: or I'll make space later, and I'm like, no, like,
Speaker 1: let's make space now, you know. But I will say
Speaker 1: because so for those of you, because some of y'all
Speaker 1: will message me like I didn't say the invite. Well,
Speaker 1: by the time you listen to this, the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't the screening so amazing, I love the time.
Speaker 1: The screening will have happened yesterday. By the time y'all
Speaker 1: hear this. But it doesn't mean still go to Netflix,
Speaker 1: still watch gets smart with money. But when I tell
Speaker 1: you I was there because I was working, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like because the screen was happening in
Speaker 1: a few days, and so I would still have to
Speaker 1: wake up at six and work, and so sometimes I
Speaker 1: was sharing with my mentees and that sometimes that like
Speaker 1: that's what it looks like. It shouldn't always look like that, Like,
Speaker 1: if you're not launching, you shouldn't be in launched mode.
Speaker 1: But it was I mean I was When I say
Speaker 1: working like working like making sure the venue, I mean
Speaker 1: it was myself and like three other women on my team.
Speaker 1: But still was a lot making sure the invites went out,
Speaker 1: making sure the venue is properly, they have everything they need,
Speaker 1: making sure that like the people who are going to
Speaker 1: be special guests have their invite. But yeah, so I
Speaker 1: will ask one favorite of y'all brown ambitions, Well, you
Speaker 1: should listen anyway because we talking about money. I've already
Speaker 1: seen the screener. I like, I'll just keep it light
Speaker 1: because I don't want to get in trouble. But you know,
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. I will say it's very feel good.
Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that because Netflix has already
Speaker 1: said it's feel good. It's on. But if you go
Speaker 1: to Netflix dot Com log into your account now more
Speaker 1: than ever this week in particular, I would really love
Speaker 1: if all of us watch Get Smart with Money so
Speaker 1: we can discuss it. You know, you can, matter of fact,
Speaker 1: if watch Gets Smart with Money and then tweet us
Speaker 1: at the BA podcast where Brianna Bishing podcasts on Insta,
Speaker 1: tweet us some questions you know, and I'll answer. You know,
Speaker 1: you can also tweet me the budgetista or the Budgetista
Speaker 1: on ig and we can answer next time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to get as many people watching this first week.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm trying to make the top ten.
Speaker 2: Okay, we don't do things halfway, No, don't. You don't
Speaker 2: know how to do things halfway.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Also, you thrown this like party together, like it's all
Speaker 2: come together so quickly. Too so because when you first
Speaker 2: mentioned that it was premiering it's been. There wasn't a
Speaker 2: party planned, and then the next week it's like, so
Speaker 2: come to my party.
Speaker 1: Because they, you know, with Netflix, it was like I one,
Speaker 1: you know, I had a NDA, so I couldn't say
Speaker 1: until they shared I could say, and then they didn't
Speaker 1: have a date yet and they told us like that
Speaker 1: they you know, a few days before I share. Ok yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, you know, and I'm like
Speaker 1: show business baby when I tell you, hey, it's been
Speaker 1: so I was at like literally six am, like okay, look, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: do that okay a keisha okay, gross, and then still
Speaker 1: like having to have fun during the day and that
Speaker 1: party at night. I mean, so your girl is it's
Speaker 1: been a wh win, but it's also just been like
Speaker 1: I don't know, So I always talk about like the
Speaker 1: thing before the thing, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: where something will happen and it's in preparation for like
Speaker 1: this other big thing that's going to happen, and I'm
Speaker 1: so good at being in preparation for that. I feel
Speaker 1: like a fish out of water now that the thing
Speaker 1: is here, you know what I mean. I'm having like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I'm gonna take like a super long
Speaker 1: walk today so in silence so I can absorb the
Speaker 1: actual thing that I'm in now, because I'm like, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: you've done so many things before the things for the
Speaker 1: think this is the thing. You know, Like we're here now.
Speaker 1: I want you to absorb the fact that like this
Speaker 1: is happening. You work really hard, you've you know, there's
Speaker 1: just you know, I mean, there's other things to come,
Speaker 1: but like learning to like be in the moment and
Speaker 1: to be present because it's going to be crazy the
Speaker 1: next couple of days. So that's what I told myself
Speaker 1: today that I'm just gonna take like this long walk
Speaker 1: and just like at the park and just absorb the
Speaker 1: fact that like look out for all you've come Tiffany
Speaker 1: from like super shy, geeky, not be need Tiffany. Well,
Speaker 1: actually still the same, but like look up or you've
Speaker 1: come to like where you are now, you know. And
Speaker 1: so like my mom called me this morning and I
Speaker 1: can That's what made me pause because I could hear
Speaker 1: it in her voice, the reflection of like what I've comme,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like there's nothing like here
Speaker 1: it in your parents' voice, who were kind of disapproving of,
Speaker 1: like what is this denis that you're doing. I'm like, Mommy,
Speaker 1: the word is budget. It exists in the lingo's language.
Speaker 1: Like why can't y'all I can see if you got
Speaker 1: Nisa wrong, but budget sys you say. And now she's like,
Speaker 1: send me all those things. My friends have been posting
Speaker 1: it in our in our group chat, because you know,
Speaker 1: all the moms are and WhatsApp and that's why you
Speaker 1: get all those forwards like Jesus loves you pass this song.
Speaker 1: You're like okay, And so she said send it to
Speaker 1: me so I can send it to everybody. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: and she's like, make sure you put Tiffany the budgetista.
Speaker 1: I said, oh sis, So we're recognizing because before it
Speaker 1: was like I couldn't believe. I was like, look at Sylvia, okay,
Speaker 1: which you know, they have to come around. So if
Speaker 1: your parents have not come around, you know, keep going,
Speaker 1: you know, because parents some talk to the number one haters,
Speaker 1: but they're also the number one lovers. You know, they
Speaker 1: just want you to be safe. But yeah, I know
Speaker 1: I'm rambling, but I'm just I'm sad.
Speaker 2: I mean, I no, I just want to say too,
Speaker 2: Like the beauty of your arc, like your journey, is
Speaker 2: that you've always just been your authentic self. And I
Speaker 2: think that that's the thing that really resonates with me
Speaker 2: and so many others is that you know, success can
Speaker 2: come if you are just yourself, Like you don't need
Speaker 2: to imitate anyone else, you don't need to do something
Speaker 2: that you don't feel good about doing. Just follow that
Speaker 2: good feeling and do what you love and help people
Speaker 2: and keep other people you know and being of service
Speaker 2: to them front of front of mine, and you can
Speaker 2: still find incredible success and the sky is the limit.
Speaker 2: Like come on, So congratulations again, always in awe of
Speaker 2: you and proud. Thanks. Well, it all makes it seem
Speaker 2: like I can't believe you are where you are, but
Speaker 2: I can because I mean I see the work you know,
Speaker 2: like it has You're not an overnight success like this
Speaker 2: has been years and years and years and years and years. Yes,
Speaker 2: I since that budget needs to blog back in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: whenever I saw that with the bicycle. Come on now,
Speaker 2: it's been a minute of watching your journey and it's yeah,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: You were the first big time interview I ever did.
Speaker 1: I was like, so geek, because man, is that you
Speaker 1: were working at No No with insider Yes for yeah,
Speaker 1: m g okay, so she's a big time reporter.
Speaker 2: You followed me wherever I went Yahoo Finance. I was like,
Speaker 2: gotta have Tiffany on that and Magnified Money. You guys
Speaker 2: were doing a partnership.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got us yo, Mandy and I've been
Speaker 1: rocking y'all even know, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yes, we've been rocking all fast in the life. Yes.
Speaker 1: And then we like met up at FINNCN and become
Speaker 1: like became like besties. I remember we were like forget
Speaker 1: all the conference workshops. We just like we we took
Speaker 1: like a long stroke. We were like day day like
Speaker 1: took a long stroll through the streets of New Orleans,
Speaker 1: got to know each other, and then Mandy Propos was like,
Speaker 1: I propose we do a podcast.
Speaker 2: I was like, I do.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: We are coming up on our seventh year anniversary in
Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks here, which is wild that.
Speaker 2: Plus I'm gonna be at FINCN next week, so it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's that reflection time. I went back. Do you ever
Speaker 2: do that? You go back to your old emails and
Speaker 2: like try to just remember what was going on at
Speaker 2: the time. So I went back to twenty fifteen, when
Speaker 2: we were twenty fourteen, when we launched Brown Ambition, twenty
Speaker 2: fifteen when we launched Brown Ambition, and I was like
Speaker 2: those early emails where we were like scheduling when you
Speaker 2: were going to come to the Yahoo office and I
Speaker 2: was trying to figure out which office we can sneak
Speaker 2: into to record. We used to record on Sundays. We
Speaker 2: used to do more than one episode a day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like Canada.
Speaker 1: I used to love going to Yahoo office because first
Speaker 1: of all, they had all the snacks. Man, It's like,
Speaker 1: are you my office is snacks? I'm like I am.
Speaker 1: I brought my book back.
Speaker 2: The hind bars to sit no pase I missed them
Speaker 2: snacks too, man, Yes, it's all about reflects. It's a
Speaker 2: beautiful time to reflect too. So I'm glad that you
Speaker 2: mentioned that because it's like sit in the moment and
Speaker 2: speaking of I thought about you in the same time,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about Serena Williams because everyone's watching her at
Speaker 2: the US Open right now and she is just like
Speaker 2: she's having her like farewell tour, but she hasn't said
Speaker 2: when she's going to technically be done. But that's fine,
Speaker 2: but just incredible. And also it's like, you know the
Speaker 2: interview was it Gael? That's Gail King that she was
Speaker 2: interviewing with after one of her matches, the second one,
Speaker 2: and Gil's like, are you Are you a surprise by
Speaker 2: the level that you're playing at, And Serena face is
Speaker 2: just like girl, but I'm Serena. I love that when
Speaker 2: you get to that level. And I feel like, tiff
Speaker 2: you're at that level, like are we surprised that you are?
Speaker 2: In a Netflix? Like there's not surprises anymore. It's just like,
Speaker 2: of course, yes, but you're Tiffany, you know you know
Speaker 2: what I from.
Speaker 1: Doctor Green, Like she said to me, because I used
Speaker 1: to be like almost not a shame, but like, of
Speaker 1: course I've worked really hard to achieve a thing, but
Speaker 1: I had a hard time absorbing the fact the thing
Speaker 1: you work for is here, because I would always be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to make a near
Speaker 1: time bestsellers. Listen, she said, but all the work you've
Speaker 1: put in has been toward that. And she said, and
Speaker 1: I think I had mentioned something about like, but I
Speaker 1: just want to remain humble. And she was like, I
Speaker 1: think that especially women, mistaken what humility truly is. And
Speaker 1: she said, to be humble is not to to reflect less,
Speaker 1: and to be humble is not to reflect more than
Speaker 1: she said, so you're not trying to be arrogant, and
Speaker 1: you're not certainly trying to be insecure. She said. Humility
Speaker 1: is to take up the exact amount of space, and
Speaker 1: some people's spaces in certain instances is bigger or smaller,
Speaker 1: depending So meaning like for me to say, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just Netflix, she'sa liked, that's not humility, you know,
Speaker 1: that's just you shrinking to say this is a big deal,
Speaker 1: this is Netflix. She's like that, humility, you're taking up
Speaker 1: the amount of space, the appropriate amount of space you
Speaker 1: get to fill that space, Tiffany. And so I just
Speaker 1: remember that that, like I don't have to shrink, and
Speaker 1: then I don't have to Like my worry is always
Speaker 1: like over pushing and becoming arrogant, and she's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not you anyway. But my concern is to I
Speaker 1: don't want you to shrink. That's not humility. Take up
Speaker 1: the exact amount of space. And so that's what I
Speaker 1: try to keep in mind that, Like, that's what humility is,
Speaker 1: is that it's like that that middle way, like taking
Speaker 1: up the exact amount of space allotted for that, for
Speaker 1: that occasion, for that accomplishment, that for that time that
Speaker 1: you are in life. And so I'm like, I'm just
Speaker 1: taking up the space that's set aside for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not bragging, it's just facts, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm taking the Vigeeny staff a Nutbooks documentary premiering September sixth.
Speaker 2: That's just fact city bragging, but no huge success. I
Speaker 2: cannot wait to celebrate you. I'm gonna make it happen.
Speaker 2: Husband doesn't know it yet, but I won't make it happen.
Speaker 2: He's gonna come home earlier that day to watch the
Speaker 2: baby so I can come to Newark. So I'm so
Speaker 2: excited for you. Can we talk? Last week was something
Speaker 2: was brewing on the Tiki Talkies not really TikTok, but
Speaker 2: you know, we love Tabatha Brawn. We're huge fans. We've
Speaker 2: been trying to have her on the show for a minute,
Speaker 2: for a minute, and as y'all, yes, so you know
Speaker 2: what happened with her with Food Networks, So let's talk
Speaker 2: about it because I just thought it was such a
Speaker 2: it's still happening, like the beautiful thing about owning your
Speaker 2: own platform like tab has. You know, she has this
Speaker 2: huge following on social media. She's built it organically herself,
Speaker 2: and she doesn't necessarily need to work with other brands
Speaker 2: to reach her people, and that is what's so damn powerful.
Speaker 2: She doesn't need publicists like she can just speak to
Speaker 2: her audience. And she, in spite of that, has partner
Speaker 2: with like we've seen her do these huge launches at Target.
Speaker 2: She also had a Food Network show called It's Compliplated Compliplated.
Speaker 1: Hate that name, but I love Todd, but I hate
Speaker 1: that name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's about vegan something about vegan food I
Speaker 2: haven't watched it yet. I don't have I don't have
Speaker 2: Food Network. If it's on Hula, let me know anyway,
Speaker 2: So she was just premiering and then I think like
Speaker 2: a week after it premiered, she goes on TikTok like
Speaker 2: early this week or over the weekend and just very
Speaker 2: like you know, blind item style, like wasn't saying any names,
Speaker 2: but was like, I just need y'all to know in
Speaker 2: her tabway, I can't imitate her. She cannot be imitating
Speaker 2: the nice nasty. The nice nasty was just saying how
Speaker 2: I have I keep telling these people, but they don't
Speaker 2: seem to believe me. But let me remind you. I'm
Speaker 2: always going to be who I am. I cannot be changed.
Speaker 2: And when I feel like I am being pushed to
Speaker 2: in a way, that's and this is me paraphrasing. You
Speaker 2: guys can go check it. We'll hopstal link to the video.
Speaker 2: But she's essentially saying that like people have tried to
Speaker 2: change me. It hasn't worked. I keep saying this is
Speaker 2: who I am. I'm authentic, this is me. Vegan Tab.
Speaker 2: You know, Happy Tab, you know, kind, caring, loving Tab,
Speaker 2: Southern Tab, you know who she is and who she
Speaker 2: fundamentally is can't be changed. And at the very end
Speaker 2: of the video, she's like, by the way, my new
Speaker 2: show is complicated. Complplated will now be on Tuesdays at
Speaker 2: one pm instead of where it was prime time Thursday's
Speaker 2: at nine pm and just primetime. Right, So something has happened.
Speaker 2: Someone's lost their dayn mind of Food Network, and it
Speaker 2: seems like they have tried to give her some sort
Speaker 2: of like I don't know, notes on how she should
Speaker 2: change or whatever, and she was like hell naw, and
Speaker 2: they tried to silence her by putting her in this
Speaker 2: like graveyard slot, not even graveyard, but like one pm
Speaker 2: is like diner's driver is in diet. Like that's like
Speaker 2: run rerun crap. Fifteenth episode of Chopped, you know, comes
Speaker 2: on at one pm on a Tuesday. So I just
Speaker 2: want to say fully support tab. Obviously we don't know
Speaker 2: everything that's happening, but I want to get your thoughts
Speaker 2: on that. To Tiffany, like, how did you feel with me?
Speaker 2: Saw that?
Speaker 1: What I saw? First?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 1: She said those things? I said, oh who may? Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I me and Tab be like the same age. I'm
Speaker 1: forty two. I think she's forty two or forty three,
Speaker 1: but you know, I still call her Aunti Tab because
Speaker 1: that's the energy. I said, who made Auntie tab mad?
Speaker 1: And then when she said the thing at the end,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, because if I'm being honest. So
Speaker 1: I've been approaching many, many, many times over the last
Speaker 1: like ten years to like, you know, have a show
Speaker 1: or to work with because there's like pre pre pre approach.
Speaker 1: There's like production companies that will reach out. So typically
Speaker 1: a production company kind of will reach out, they'll do
Speaker 1: some reels with you, like they'll do like almost like
Speaker 1: a mini clip of us show they think that they
Speaker 1: would want to do, and then they'll pitch you to
Speaker 1: like networks and streaming platforms, YadA ya, YadA. So I've
Speaker 1: been approached many times by production companies, and some of
Speaker 1: them I'm like, you know, like I'll I'll give you
Speaker 1: just two examples. One it was by this huge, huge,
Speaker 1: huge production company owned by huge, huge, huge celebrity. If
Speaker 1: I saved their name, you'd be.
Speaker 2: Like, oh God.
Speaker 1: And but the platform you know that they want to
Speaker 1: be They wanted me to be a host on the
Speaker 1: show that had already existed from the year before, and
Speaker 1: I just was like, Okay, let me watch. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was giving very much. The other
Speaker 1: host was giving very much. Simon Cowell like that hoax
Speaker 1: was the Meani and I was supposed to be the Nicy.
Speaker 1: And the thing is they already had a sister on
Speaker 1: that show. So I was like, well, what about you
Speaker 1: already have a sister you've reached it out to me
Speaker 1: for and they're like, oh that the sister and the
Speaker 1: other person weren't getting along. I'm like, oh, so you're
Speaker 1: geting rid of the system and you're looking for another
Speaker 1: brown girl. And I said, well, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know because I don't necessarily like you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm going to show up nice, but he seems kind
Speaker 1: of mean, and so they're like, that's what we want
Speaker 1: you to come to balance it out. So then they
Speaker 1: sent me, but I told them it just didn't seem
Speaker 1: like a fit for me because I don't, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a tough love girl. I'm a love love girl.
Speaker 1: And so I was like no, They're like, well, how
Speaker 1: about you could just come on as like a guest
Speaker 1: to like, you know, like a guest helper whatever from
Speaker 1: time to time and I said, okay, I'm open to that.
Speaker 1: So I won't be the main host. I could be
Speaker 1: this guest helper. They sent me the contract. Girl, when
Speaker 1: I tell you this contract, it said in it like
Speaker 1: because I read my contracts obviously. I said this to
Speaker 1: my attorney too, shout out to you, Tony Moore, She's amazing.
Speaker 1: So I always read them, and then Tony will read
Speaker 1: it and then she sends me notes. I call them
Speaker 1: her homegirl notes where because Tony's the sister and Tony
Speaker 1: will break down like girl. Section ABC says, don't do
Speaker 1: it sex, you know. So I'm like, oh, okay. So
Speaker 1: so I read it and it said like one section
Speaker 1: She's like, girl, what the hell is this? It said,
Speaker 1: we are allowed to make up stories about you, humiliate
Speaker 1: you and your family like verbatem. Whenever was what the hell?
Speaker 1: So I reached back out to the production company, ID
Speaker 1: what is this. They're like, oh my gosh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: we sent you the wrong contract. That's for the guests
Speaker 1: on the show that we're helping with their finances. And
Speaker 1: I was like, so you mean to tell me that
Speaker 1: you are asking people to come on a show to
Speaker 1: get help, but then you are also telling them that
Speaker 1: you get to make up stories if it's not salacious enough,
Speaker 1: humiliate them and their families, and you want me to
Speaker 1: continue with this, you know, with this show. And so
Speaker 1: I said, absolutely not. I said this is wrong. And
Speaker 1: I remember the woman on the phone she was saying
Speaker 1: to herself, and you know, she was not the owner
Speaker 1: of this production company. So I did not do the show.
Speaker 1: But I will say I saw somebody else that I
Speaker 1: know did the show in no shade, but I just
Speaker 1: was like, that won't be me. So I said no.
Speaker 1: And then another company, production company, reached out the woman
Speaker 1: who owned it. Oh well, I won't get that much
Speaker 1: of detail. Anyway, it was a production company and the
Speaker 1: people are really really really wealthy and super well known,
Speaker 1: and they reached out. And so one of the things
Speaker 1: I want, like if I'm going to be a part
Speaker 1: of a show at the level where I am now,
Speaker 1: I'm wanting what they call executive producer credit that's like
Speaker 1: back end, and I'm wanting a piece of that. And
Speaker 1: they were like, absolutely not. And I said, I don't
Speaker 1: want to just show up as talent, meaning like yes,
Speaker 1: you get a talent fee, but I also want a
Speaker 1: production credit. But also to be paid for what I'm
Speaker 1: putting out there, and they were just like no, and
Speaker 1: they kept like courting me, and I remember just being like,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't need it. Honestly, I have
Speaker 1: no desire to be quote unquote famous. I have successful
Speaker 1: businesses already. If I never do a show, I will
Speaker 1: continue to be successful. But I just remember being like
Speaker 1: blown away. I remember telling the woman distinctly. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not a sixteen year old want to be rapper
Speaker 1: trying to get put on and willing to sign my
Speaker 1: life away for that. Why would I do that? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So what you're essentially asking me
Speaker 1: is to make this rich person richer and then I
Speaker 1: get to to dance on whatever streaming platform now and
Speaker 1: so you know, so I remember, I mean they courted
Speaker 1: me for a long time, and it was funny because
Speaker 1: I wanted she's listened. I'm like hey, girl, hey, because
Speaker 1: she was like yeah, but with us, because the name
Speaker 1: attached is so big, you know, we can likely get
Speaker 1: you on Netflix. I mean, while I'm like, girl here
Speaker 1: behind the ear here now. So this was like maybe
Speaker 1: two or three years ago. So I did sign with
Speaker 1: the production company. What I did get my IPA credit,
Speaker 1: and I did get my large chunk of like you know,
Speaker 1: of ownership, so that way I can get paid front
Speaker 1: end and back in. And I waited for that, and
Speaker 1: so I just say all that to this, are.
Speaker 2: Your producer on the Netflix movie documentary? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, that was like the truth is help. The
Speaker 1: way that worked out is that production company. It wasn't
Speaker 1: sold to Netflix at first. It was they just reached
Speaker 1: out and said, we're doing this documentary. I had done
Speaker 1: research on them Atlas Films, and I love the other
Speaker 1: documentaries that they had done, so I just said yes
Speaker 1: off GP of like, oh, I'll be in this random doc.
Speaker 1: And then later Netflix was like I think came into
Speaker 1: the picture, and I was like, oh, well that was
Speaker 1: a good choice to say it. So that wasn't yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the initial It was just yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just this doc. And just so for you guys know,
Speaker 1: like there the documentary follows these four people, well one
Speaker 1: of them is a couple, one group, but these ideally
Speaker 1: really these four people who are struggling with their finances,
Speaker 1: and they assigned them a coach and so I'm one
Speaker 1: of the coaches. And actually my woman was a DreamCatcher.
Speaker 1: She lives in Jersey. She's so nice. We were just
Speaker 1: texting her. I got a text her after this. We
Speaker 1: was just texting the other day. And you just get
Speaker 1: to see where they started and where they finished, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, it's beautiful, and it's aligned
Speaker 1: with how I show up, not just me. The other
Speaker 1: coaches are mister Money Mustache, he's awesome, Paula Pants, she's awesome,
Speaker 1: and then Ross Mac he's awesome. I love that there
Speaker 1: were so many people of color. Three out of the
Speaker 1: four coaches were people of color, so I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: get into it. Two of us were women. Ross Mack
Speaker 1: is a black man. Paula she's as well. Even said,
Speaker 1: because I'm not I'm not sure. What do you know, Paula,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what ethnicity. Yeah, yeah, I know her.
Speaker 2: I don't know what her ethnicity is. South Asian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I want to say. But I love
Speaker 1: the fact that, like, you know, that to me was awesome.
Speaker 1: And then my woman was Latina who was helping. She's
Speaker 1: dominequan Ell who I was helping. And so you just
Speaker 1: got like a sulf and Ross helped them. The guy
Speaker 1: he was helping was a black man, and so I
Speaker 1: just love that there was such diversity in the casting
Speaker 1: and the coaching and what I love to I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna give too much away, but the way we all
Speaker 1: approached our person was very much in alignment with what
Speaker 1: I said, you know, like I don't believe in shaming
Speaker 1: people because I would never have been a part of
Speaker 1: something like that, And so I love that, like not
Speaker 1: just the way I coach, but when I watched it,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is great. Like there's a
Speaker 1: shift happening where we don't have to yell at people,
Speaker 1: make them feel all terrible and say you can't afford her,
Speaker 1: you know, like you can't buy they lattes until you
Speaker 1: pay off your mortgage or whatever whatever people say.
Speaker 2: But people down before you build them back up that hole.
Speaker 2: That whole makeover style is so nineties early twenty tens. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gone.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love the new I love the new tone, the
Speaker 2: Queer Eye tone. I feel like Queer Eye is like
Speaker 2: one of those makeover shows makes you feel better watching it.
Speaker 2: They don't tear people down, they help them, And like,
Speaker 2: I don't feel like this it doesn't sound like this
Speaker 2: will be that way either. I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2: There's enough bullshit and meanness in the world and that's why.
Speaker 2: And again it's about owning your audience and your platforms,
Speaker 2: if which you do like you don't need that shit,
Speaker 2: and people need you like they need to like they
Speaker 2: need to reach the audience that you have already reached, right,
Speaker 2: which is why they're contacting you. And I mean, and
Speaker 2: I think for Tab too, it's so clear that she
Speaker 2: is at peace with who she is. And how can
Speaker 2: you not be at peace with who you are when
Speaker 2: your audience has already found you and loves you and
Speaker 2: or follow you wherever you say to go.
Speaker 1: Hey, we're here for tab nobody. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm watching her grainy ninety second tiktoks. I don't need
Speaker 2: it compleplated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, work, And for those of you in business, please
Speaker 1: let that be like a lesson to you that like,
Speaker 1: is it the longer way? Because Tad been at it?
Speaker 1: Because just what is it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Just three years ago she was driving uber And if
Speaker 1: you read her book, which I have, it's been years,
Speaker 1: if not longer than me. If I think it's been
Speaker 1: longer than fifteen years, of her working toward and so
Speaker 1: because of that, you know, like that's what it looks like.
Speaker 1: Is sometimes some people blow up overnight, but for most
Speaker 1: people who are really successful, they have to take the
Speaker 1: long route because you have to collect a lot of
Speaker 1: lessons along the journey. But yeah, as a result, tab
Speaker 1: can go somewhere else. Like you know, I was sharing
Speaker 1: this with my mentees at my mentortifty dot com quickblook,
Speaker 1: and I was sharing with them. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to get to a place that you become
Speaker 1: one of one, to quote Beyonce say in business. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the things that I have learned and what
Speaker 1: I teach my mentees little plug my mentor tipany dot
Speaker 1: com with mine, we have like sixteen hundred mentees. There
Speaker 1: is that that like, oh you're in. I love thought
Speaker 1: that because honestly I have been thanks. So what I've
Speaker 1: been doing, like I what I what I what I've
Speaker 1: been doing with this whole Netflix behind the scenes like
Speaker 1: launch and marketing plan is I've been sharing like the
Speaker 1: I call it like the behind the curtain aspect of
Speaker 1: what's happening with them, and so like they've been seeing
Speaker 1: like along the way, like this is what I'm doing
Speaker 1: this is why I'm doing it. Here's how you can
Speaker 1: apply it to your business. So I've been sharing that
Speaker 1: all week with them. But one of the things I
Speaker 1: teach is that like you really want to get to
Speaker 1: a point of like excellence and then you know, owning
Speaker 1: access to your audience because at a certain point, now
Speaker 1: you know, I want to become one of one, that
Speaker 1: it's either you get me and if you can't afford me,
Speaker 1: you go get more money. That's it. There is no oh,
Speaker 1: we'll just get dot dot dot, you know, because there
Speaker 1: is no like either you get tab or you go
Speaker 1: get more money, because there's nobody that you can say, well,
Speaker 1: we won't have tap, will have somebody else. There is
Speaker 1: no substitute. She's one of one. And that's what I'm
Speaker 1: working toward, because when you become one of one, then
Speaker 1: you won there's wayless competition and you really get to
Speaker 1: call your own shots. And I get to be like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I mean I was always like
Speaker 1: that from the very beginning, that like, for example, you'll
Speaker 1: never see me sell credit cards, Like I'm not anti
Speaker 1: credit card because I have credit cards, I use them wisely,
Speaker 1: and I will teach you how to use credit cards wisely.
Speaker 1: And if I was doing business, that'd be different, like
Speaker 1: you might see me one day in America express commercial
Speaker 1: or whatever, but about business. But personally, I'm not here
Speaker 1: to say get this particular card because I feel like
Speaker 1: credit cards can kind of be like a gateway drug
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be a pusher. Now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna share with you how best to use them if
Speaker 1: you have cards, because like I said, I certainly use them,
Speaker 1: but like that's just not me. From the very beginning
Speaker 1: when I had no money, it was one of the
Speaker 1: few types of companies that would reach out to me.
Speaker 1: I remember distinctly my friend Cabrell telling me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what do you think, I said, is a
Speaker 1: card that I use? And he was like, Tiffany, once
Speaker 1: you start saying something yes to something on the on
Speaker 1: the fringe, you very quickly go all the way to
Speaker 1: the other side. And I just didn't want to compromise.
Speaker 1: And so from then until now, like I haven't had to,
Speaker 1: and I you know, and I still haven't, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm working on becoming one of one where it's like
Speaker 1: you either go get me or you go get more money,
Speaker 1: or you just have to sit this thing out because
Speaker 1: there is no substitute, you know, so work toward that,
Speaker 1: and that's what happens done. That's why she could say
Speaker 1: what she wanted to say.
Speaker 2: Y'all are both alien superstars.
Speaker 1: You know I'm not quite a that lesson you are.
Speaker 2: Don't give me an opportunity and wax poetic about Beyonce's
Speaker 2: album because I will too late. It's already happening. Listen
Speaker 2: why I love alien superstars so much. If you listen
Speaker 2: to the lyrics, I'm one of one. Don't even try
Speaker 2: to compete with me. Nobody else can think like me
Speaker 2: what I love about that lyric. Anyone can sing it
Speaker 2: because true, no one can think like we do, like
Speaker 2: we are one of one. We are all alien superstars.
Speaker 2: And I don't think that the message is like you
Speaker 2: have to be a Beyonce, but like it's unlocking that
Speaker 2: alien superstar in yourself. When I tell you, you're listening
Speaker 2: to these lyrics and I feel them, I love it
Speaker 2: because like that has been It's the thing that I've known,
Speaker 2: It's the thing that we learn as children watching Barney.
Speaker 2: You know, like we're all unique, and you know, we
Speaker 2: all have our own identities and it's beautiful celebrate our differences,
Speaker 2: but it's a thing that you don't truly like for me,
Speaker 2: start to really like sit with and sink into, like
Speaker 2: seep into your bones and your DNA until you're older
Speaker 2: and like at this point in your life. And I'm
Speaker 2: I'm and that's why I'm like when I shout you out, tip,
Speaker 2: I shout out your authenticity, like your your one of
Speaker 2: oneness because you don't try to be anyone else, and
Speaker 2: like nor do I. And just then you become cozy
Speaker 2: with who you are above you since I love myself,
Speaker 2: God damn sorry, they just come out of my They
Speaker 2: just come out of me. But that's that's the whole
Speaker 2: message I feel like of this album, in these two songs,
Speaker 2: is really about your unique self and we all have
Speaker 2: that inside of us. You know, you're already an alien superstar.
Speaker 1: Come on now, okay, I'm gonna that's what's it gonna
Speaker 1: take for you to think that, Yes, yeah, take up
Speaker 1: the space. That'shue, that's true humility, take up the full
Speaker 1: space a lot. And I'm like, you're right, I'm an
Speaker 1: alien superstar. I'm one of one.
Speaker 2: Don't make me start hyping you up because I'll never stop,
Speaker 2: and I hype myself up too. Okay, you've got back ourselves.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we're gonna take a break, quick.
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Speaker 1: advisor shout out to you, Angelie, and I was sharing
Speaker 1: her with her how much my keynote is and she
Speaker 1: was like, that's it. It should be double, and I
Speaker 1: was like double, that seem like a lot. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna be candid. The current keynote price is fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars and I thought I was a lot of money,
Speaker 1: and she's like it should be one hundred, and I
Speaker 1: was like a hundred onduli who are keeno for me?
Speaker 1: And she was like yes, She said, I have over
Speaker 1: fifty clients and some of them, you know, they're all
Speaker 1: high wealth, high networth individuals, and some of them, you know,
Speaker 1: a handful of them are in have a similar business
Speaker 1: model to you. And I said okay, and she said,
Speaker 1: and not one of them charges less than one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand for a keynote. And I said okay. And she said,
Speaker 1: you know the difference though, between you and them. I
Speaker 1: was like no. She said, they're all less qualified and
Speaker 1: white men. And I was like, she was like, all
Speaker 1: of these, you know, some of the handful of guys
Speaker 1: that from my clients tell that they're white men. They
Speaker 1: charge double. They don't have New York Times bestsellers. They
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Speaker 1: on Netflix. They weren't the first black women to cover
Speaker 1: Money magazine. They don't have Webby Awards. Okay, Brian ambition.
Speaker 1: So she was like, oh, She's like, I've been working
Speaker 1: with you for the last four years, Tiffany, and if
Speaker 1: I stack up your accomplishments in business to other folks
Speaker 1: and not to say they don't deserve their one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand for a keynote, but she was like, you damn
Speaker 1: sure are late to the game and deserving that. And
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Speaker 1: because this many I'm gonna be but no, I'm like, yes,
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Speaker 1: as we hang out, I'm going to be your first purchase,
Speaker 1: because you know, I have a hard time with like negotiating,
Speaker 1: because I do have sometimes even some brands that will
Speaker 1: push back on paying. And I want to be able
Speaker 1: to say because the truth is, I want to get
Speaker 1: this book, and then I'm gonna have my admin Rose
Speaker 1: get her own copy and it don't wait, roles were
Speaker 1: gonna do't wry, We're gonna pay for it. Because I
Speaker 1: want her to start to learn that when a brand
Speaker 1: reaches out or a place for me to speak, I
Speaker 1: want her to take over negotiating like this is Tiffany's rates,
Speaker 1: and I want her to have the language and necessary
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, eh, Andy's helping all with this
Speaker 1: new but we've got to be rich.
Speaker 2: You make me want to do a whole chapter on
Speaker 2: brand deals. That's well, I love you having I should Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe the next edition, but I I want what I
Speaker 2: What I feel is powerful about having a template in
Speaker 2: a script is even if you don't end up using
Speaker 2: the word for word thing, but having language that people
Speaker 2: can see, like even for you and Rose to sit
Speaker 2: down and work on. So, what are the most common
Speaker 2: pushbacks or questions that we get from people? And then
Speaker 2: here's what our canned sort of like go to response
Speaker 2: will be fill in the blank. And just having that
Speaker 2: because like you know, Rose, being an assistant maybe hasn't
Speaker 2: been put in that position before. So yeah, equipping her
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: When you have the.
Speaker 2: Language and the words, you just go in feeling more confident.
Speaker 2: I kind of you know, have you ever heard that
Speaker 2: what is it Sirrah? Now? That old like? Is it
Speaker 2: a musical? Is it Shakespeare? I don't know, but it's
Speaker 2: the one where where he writes the love letters for
Speaker 2: his friend and that gives the friend the confidence to
Speaker 2: like go wo whatever her name is. I'm sure it's
Speaker 2: very beautiful and I feel like it's similar, you know,
Speaker 2: if you if you feel like you're lacking that confidence
Speaker 2: to actually have someone give you those words and to
Speaker 2: feel more confident, like, hell, yeah, I love that, and
Speaker 2: I mean, like, of course you should. What I love
Speaker 2: about that anecdote too, about your financial planner telling you
Speaker 2: that's something that I could never have told you because
Speaker 2: I don't work with people who make that much money, right,
Speaker 2: But what you've just proven again is like surrounding yourselves
Speaker 2: with people who do have a lens into the rooms
Speaker 2: that you are now working your way in, because they
Speaker 2: help you level up and they help you understand your worth.
Speaker 2: And that's nothing that you're ever going to get from
Speaker 2: like a glassdoor dot com. They don't have glassdoor dot
Speaker 2: coms for the budgetistas and the influencers of the world,
Speaker 2: you know. So I feel like that's highly motivational to
Speaker 2: me too, and for anyone listening who may maybe feels like, oh,
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars, I can't relate, But what you
Speaker 2: can relate to is talking to What you can get
Speaker 2: from that is the importance of speaking to other people
Speaker 2: who are at a different level, who work in different fields,
Speaker 2: and interact with people that are, you know, where you
Speaker 2: want to be, because they can help you understand how
Speaker 2: to navigate and understand what to expect, and I hope
Speaker 2: you immediately yeah, raise that, yeah, raise that, now that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly like, I yeah, I because I can
Speaker 1: understand thinking one hundred because fifteen years ago, five years ago,
Speaker 1: I would be like, are you crazy. I'm never going
Speaker 1: to make you know that much because my intention was
Speaker 1: to go from fifty to sixty five, which even now
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm blown away. Every time at
Speaker 1: seventy says yes to fifty, I'm like, wow, really, you know,
Speaker 1: so I'm still in the like wall, well, I'm still
Speaker 1: adjusting to fifty, you know, so to jump to a
Speaker 1: hundred is scary. And she was just like no, you know, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: like I'm telling you because to your point, and I
Speaker 1: think to me and this is like, you know, our
Speaker 1: kind of like our our core lesson here. It is
Speaker 1: so important to talk about finances openly because had I
Speaker 1: not shared that with Angelie, she could not have given
Speaker 1: me that feedback. It's like going to your doctor and
Speaker 1: not telling them, like, you know, my NIE's been aching
Speaker 1: for for three months and I've got this pain in
Speaker 1: the back of my neck, not knowing that that's related
Speaker 1: and that could be sign of like meningitis or something
Speaker 1: like that. It's important that with the financial or the
Speaker 1: people that you work with, whether it's your business, whether
Speaker 1: it's your personal finance, you give the whole picture. I'm
Speaker 1: going through a divorce, I'm thinking about having a baby,
Speaker 1: we're working on IVF. Because knowing the whole picture allows
Speaker 1: like the people who are helping you to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: now that I know that, my advice shifts to when
Speaker 1: it comes to your finance or your business or whatever
Speaker 1: your career. You know. So like if you're working with
Speaker 1: Mandy as a career coach, right, so if she knows
Speaker 1: that you're actually, you know, trying to have a baby,
Speaker 1: and she might be like, oh, actually knowing that, actually
Speaker 1: I want you to do this instead, you know. So
Speaker 1: like it's just I think that is like a huge,
Speaker 1: huge lesson to end on today, which is that like,
Speaker 1: you know, not being afraid to ask for help, you know,
Speaker 1: finding people on a team that you can really trust,
Speaker 1: sharing the whole complete picture, because I would not have known,
Speaker 1: you know, I always felt lucky to get fifty. And
Speaker 1: she's like, girl, they're probably looking like we got that
Speaker 1: girl again, And so she was like now and so
Speaker 1: you know, so yeah, I just think that, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is just so and it's just so perfectly a line
Speaker 1: we're always I feel like me and Mandy be like Lockstep,
Speaker 1: like wait, I need a thing. Man, It's like, just
Speaker 1: did it. I'm like you did it, and many's like
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a thing. I'm like, just finish that.
Speaker 1: She's like, you did so. Honestly, when I tell you
Speaker 1: I'm excited about I'm literally like, if you just told
Speaker 1: me that there was a random girl who was a
Speaker 1: career coach and she had this guide, I would be
Speaker 1: going to get it. I'm not getting it because it's Mandy.
Speaker 1: I'm getting it because I'm like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: need this so badly, and it's like, oh the extra bonus.
Speaker 2: It's mandra, Oh thank you so much. That's so exciting
Speaker 2: to me too. And I will be like, Tippy need this.
Speaker 2: She's tipping the budget. But you're right, all of us
Speaker 2: have our strengths and weaknesses. So yeah, I hope that
Speaker 2: you guys enjoy it. I'm excited to hear the feedback.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear how much more money y'all
Speaker 2: get with these scripts. Okay, so maybebody gonna come home
Speaker 2: slash shop.
Speaker 1: You should say those you know how like when people
Speaker 1: do fundraisers at school, you should have people so that
Speaker 1: way you could show how much money you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: You should do one of the monitor Yeah that's thermometers, like.
Speaker 1: You should, because that'd be really powerful. Like I've helped
Speaker 1: you know, ten thousand women make over one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: Like that's really powerful. You should ask people like to
Speaker 1: fill out some form so we could like generate that
Speaker 1: number for you.
Speaker 2: Ooh okay, maybe I will. Speaking from the queen of
Speaker 2: platform and marketing and launching, yes, maybe I should. My
Speaker 2: whole plan was just talk about it on the podcast
Speaker 2: and then yes that's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very No, you should, because I would say
Speaker 1: I would love like a monthly Imagine you did a
Speaker 1: monthly update Mandy for on your socials where you show
Speaker 1: that you know that you know, you go to cana
Speaker 1: and you create, you show that whatever the you know,
Speaker 1: the measuring stick is and you say, like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're up to three hundred women and we've gotten they've
Speaker 1: made an additional you know, this month was three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Girl, Becau's what I want to know how much more
Speaker 2: money have people gotten? Yes, the illustrate you oprah million. Yes,
Speaker 2: illustrate your Oprah. That'll be like, oh my gosh, we
Speaker 2: hit a million dollars, a million dollars more in the
Speaker 2: hands of women as it relates to their businesses or
Speaker 2: or careers or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's huge. Honestly, you should do a monthly. It should
Speaker 1: be like the same to every like the fifteenth or
Speaker 1: the first or whatever of every month, where you're like,
Speaker 1: you know and call it something because you know how
Speaker 1: I have thoughtful Thursdays at my mentor Tiffany dot com, right,
Speaker 1: So you should call it something where it's like Mandy
Speaker 1: money Update or whatever. You know, it mean something. So
Speaker 1: that way we all know, like on the first of
Speaker 1: the month or the thirtieth or whatever, we tune in
Speaker 1: to your platforms to see like, oh my gosh, what's
Speaker 1: the number. I'm telling you that's how you illustrate your oprah.
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds so cool. I'm definitely gonna do that.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I'm like thinking about I need to go
Speaker 2: through all my emails, my testimonials and like add up
Speaker 2: all the numbers. How much bepoopepoop pe boop. Oh, thanks
Speaker 2: tiff Well, I cannot back to back to back to
Speaker 2: Tiffany and Get Smart with Money. By the way, I
Speaker 2: love that they just like casually ripped off your book title.
Speaker 1: It's fine, but those who don't know my book is
Speaker 1: called Get Good with Money, and they love the title
Speaker 1: so much. I was like, yeah, but it's mine, so
Speaker 1: they called it Get Smart with Money. I'm like, that's cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The trademark attorneys like damn it
Speaker 2: just close enough but not too close. September sixth, y'all,
Speaker 2: So if you're listening to this podcast on Wednesday, it
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