WEBVTT - “The Snowvertime Game” with LeSean McCoy | Colts vs. Bills 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:08.920 Today we have two times Super Bowl champ Lashawan, Shady McCoy. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:14.000 We're talking the twenty seventeen Snowbird time game. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.240 Probably get a tackle McCoy into the The cool thing 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:20.160 about the snow What people don't understand is that when 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:21.880 I get tackled, it's like fall on. 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.960 Pillows and they can't get attraction. But I can sign 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.040 me up. So are you the greatest snow running back 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:32.120 of all time? I don't know. I'm saying yes. You'll 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.360 see it on loss. We're gonna see a lot of 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:39.120 insane takes. You always get your popcorn ready when Shady 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:39.760 is here. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.519 And everybody's so sensitive listen on TV. In the locker room, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:44.319 I'm the same way. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:45.520 I just speak the truth. 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.040 I used to believe that your coach, Bill Belichip was 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.000 one of the greatest coach of all time, right, I 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.440 used to, But now I updated my information and that 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.240 is super false. You go from the top of the division, 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.360 top of the DC East Birds twenty years now you 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.320 at the bottom. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.720 We and Brentwood. We are in Brentwood. Oh they got 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:10.520 a prison? Can we gonna see his house? Games with 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.960 Names is a production of iHeart Radio. Welcome to games 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:19.920 with names presented by wind Bet and on today's episode, 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:25.399 we're talking the twenty seventeen snover Time game with Shady 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.080 Lashawn McCoy. 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.800 Is it Is it a stone Cold Steve Austin type thing, Like, 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.800 have you said Steve stone Cold Austin? That just doesn't work, Shady. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.920 It's almost like you just replaced. You never hear Lashawn 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:39.840 and Shady in the same place. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.080 All I just think of as Shade Shady. Honestly, I 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.720 got screwed up when I saw Lashawan. I knew that 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.720 was his name, but everyone knows him as Shady. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.040 I'm with you. It's like a Batman Bruce Wayne thing. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.640 You're never gonna see them in the. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.360 Same You're never gonna see, but you know what we're 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.559 gonna see. We're gonna see a lot of insane tape. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:03.320 Oh my gosh, topics, snow game, Belichick versus read talk, 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.560 Hall of Fame, talk a lot more. This guy had. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.040 I mean, you're always you always get your popcorn ready 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.240 when Shady is here. Oh big time. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:15.560 I mean we were holding our own too. It turned 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.800 into a little debate, but good news, we're mastered today. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.480 He just he just wants to debate. I was, I was, 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.880 I was conflicted. 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.160 But then at the end of the day, we're gonna 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:32.160 win every time. Rings, Baby kiss the Rings and Belli 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.720 and Bill we trust clock management. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:41.240 Well just Bill, two great coaches, you know, yes, all right. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.960 And then we're gonna wrap up the episode we opened up. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.640 The DMS. Fans are sending us recommendations of games they 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.880 want us to do. Guess they want us to have on. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:52.720 We'll come through a couple of them and see what 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:53.119 we think. 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:54.720 Let's do it, Let's do it. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:55.919 Hell Yeah. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.919 Games with Names is brought to you by win bet. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.800 When bet brings the excitement of win Las Vegas and 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.600 Encore Boston Harbor to your phone. 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Today we have Lashawn Shady 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:20.520 McCoy in studio, two time Super Bowl champ, two different teams, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.000 six time Pro bowler, the King of the twenty ten's 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.080 current host to speak on FS one, and new teammate 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.440 of mine. First time I'll get to enjoy and experience 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:36.880 the real Shady McCoy and future Hall of Famer. Yeah. Yeah, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:38.520 you see the backs of the Hall of Fame. You 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.800 see the mother dude. Hey, you know, we just had 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.400 to get it right. We had to get it right. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.760 Guys there with two left feet in the Hall of Fame. 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:49.880 Who is the guy with two left feet? 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:54.920 And the couple of them, give me some names, numbers, 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.120 A couple of them that has been with a home 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.760 much of great players on the team, Like, it's a. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:04:59.120 Lot of them. 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.760 Got I'm listen to your home. I'm listening to Shady. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.280 The thing is that you can't just go that's a 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.520 I just text my boy. I'm like, yo, I got 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.560 my boy, I got Shady coming on. He's like, YO, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.559 you gotta ask him, you know, is he ever gonna 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.960 take accountability for these outlandish takes that he has sometimes 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.360 this and this is let's talk about it. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.560 Let's let's see. The thing is is that people are 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.360 so used to just. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.040 The normal, right, the saying thing outside the normals like, oh, 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.000 he's he's tripping, he's crazy. But when you break it down, 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.200 I mean everything I say is factual, you know. Now 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.880 that's all opinions, right, But it's just no filter, That's 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:36.400 what it is. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.960 I just there's always that guy in the locker room 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.640 that just says it how it is, even if there's 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:45.920 feelings involved, He's still gonna say it because that's there's 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.320 that's just there's you're that you're that guy. Now. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.800 Now, we both play with Tom and I love I 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.960 played with him this a year. I love Tom right, 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:54.720 and you play with longer, so obviously the love is 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.400 probably different. But Gronk I know Grounk very well from 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.880 just like Pro Bowl and like little commercials you do together, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.839 and he just got cool. And then my agent was 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.080 his agent, Drosehouse, so we were tighter than Tom. But 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.279 they can tell you how I am listen on TV 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.480 in the locker room. I'm the same way the way 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.800 I am in when I walked down to Now. That's 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:15.560 one thing that I'm always going to be one hunting 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.200 and authentic. That's the problem nowadays everybody's so sensitive. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.960 If you say this guy can't play, it's like, oh 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:21.360 my god. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:24.000 If you say this dude, is is this and that, 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:24.960 it's like it's an issue. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:28.479 I just speak the truth at the moment. All the 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.560 time things change, Like you could say something right and 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.279 then something else. Can I understand? 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.359 I respect that, Like like for example, like you know, 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.320 a while ago, I used to believe that you know, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.040 your coach Bill Belichick was one of the greatest coach 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.440 of all time, right he used to, but now today 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.760 I updated my information, and that is super false. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:51.720 Super let's hear it. 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:53.920 I mean the guy they used to wear them big 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.400 boots at quarterback Brady. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.920 Once he left, we've seen. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.120 The real Belichick. We've seen the same Belichick before he 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:03.160 got to the Patriots. 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.240 Which one is that you know that the one of 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.279 the Browns where he take the Browns to the playoffs 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.440 and they were they were about to go to the playoffs. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.680 They were a sexy team to do the AFC Championship. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.800 But then in the middle of the night they announced 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.840 that they're taking the team to Baltimore and they show 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.920 up to work. Fans are throwing things, there's riots in 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.200 the streets. The Cleveland people were pissed. Distraction. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.720 Then they suck off that year. But like, all right, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.880 I get it. He had five years there or four? 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:30.400 I think five? 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.720 Jackie? What we got? By the way, this Jackie he's in. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:37.360 Here something like that guy with Google. I'm a guy 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:37.720 with Google. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.120 Four or five years he's been with the Browns. I 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:41.040 can't remember one. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.120 But guess what, he only had one winning season, this one. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.239 There's one of them, the Browns. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.440 When's the last time? I don't care what Belichick it's, 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:50.960 I mean, what are we talking about? 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.000 And then the Bets that of them all is that 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.120 without Tom Brady as his quarterback? 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.560 Do you know you know what he is? Do you 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.840 know what he's like? Five hundred? He's barely touching five hundred. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.160 And you watch them boys, You watch them boys now right, 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.560 they don't want nothing like they used to. Look back 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.920 in the day when I was with the Bills, they 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:13.520 cut this dude named Jamie Collins. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.320 Yeah, I was in there like they cut him. Most 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.680 athletic guy, he's their best player on defense. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.200 We used to watch him. I'll play for the Bills. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.000 We played twice a year. We used to watch him 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.280 on tape. He could covery kasaka, he played the run. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.400 He was the best player. High Tier was good. But 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.000 I thought Jamie Collins was better. Well, I mean in 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.320 office thought he was better. How you cut a guy 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.000 like that, because you know, you at twelve nowadays, you 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.199 know what they doing. They paying everybody to come there. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.000 We will pay all this extra money to come over here. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.400 Think about it though, Yeah, I mean, you gotta fight 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.520 the quarterback's Mack the guy yet I mean, Rowan built 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.920 overnight shady like you gotta think about it. A twenty 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.280 year dynasty, a twenty year dynasty, year twenty years, right, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.600 and Tom is like a lot to do, you know 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.680 what I mean. But okay, but once once that crumbles 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.120 because of the salary cap, then you get into all 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:04.880 these crazy things and you got to go and try 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.320 to find Like, it's tough to like when you're Rome 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.040 and the shit crashes, it's hard to come back to 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:16.079 become Rome again right away. And by the way, when 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.120 you're evaluating at least when I evaluate. It's like I 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:23.640 remember talking with owners and they were telling they're like, yeah, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.920 we don't evaluate every year of our organization. We do 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.800 it in ten year increments, which we don't have any 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:35.319 patience for anyone or any that nowadays. And I understand, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.920 and right now it's not looking good. It's not looking 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:39.720 good for Bill. But I'm just saying as a guy 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.080 in the end that was there. Motherfucker laid out a 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.199 template and it was based off of his best players 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.000 having to make that template go. And he just so 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.360 happened to have the best football. Yes, but that template 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.560 a lot of those characteristics that Tom had when he 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.360 went to Tampa. I mean, it was probably because he 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:00.520 was around that template. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.160 Put my thing is, so, when if all that's true, 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.800 you go from the top of the division, top of 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.560 the d C East for twenty years, now you're at 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:10.400 the bottom. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.840 And my question to you is at the bottom right now? 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.280 Maybe where they are? Were they bottom last year? They 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.560 finished fourth? Last year. I can't make this up. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.480 They made the playoffs year the year with the rookie 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:22.640 I got small bout thirty. But look, this is the 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.000 thing though, this is the issue though, So that's that's 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:25.720 that's that's true. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.320 So you go from the top to the bottom. Cool, 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:27.880 it happens. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.000 It happens when I look at other great coaches like 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.600 Andy Reives, like Sean Payton's all these other coaches right now, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.040 no bel Chick's career, his resume is better, right Andy Reid. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.839 No matter who the quarterback is, no matter who whatever's 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.160 playing around, they're not gonna be terrible. Right, think about this. 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.120 It was like an he's an offensive guy. That's that's 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:45.040 his thing. I don't know who. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.520 I don't know about offense. I'm saying as a team, 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.120 as a team, wherever. 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:53.120 He goes, they're not going to He drafted Alex Smith, No, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.720 he got he. He got him from San Francisco after 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.040 he had that little thunder in there. And then Kaepernick 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:00.240 and they trade. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.640 Cap, Yeah, they trade him because it was like, Okay, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.839 they said he was a bus he's on. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.720 A bus route. Oh, but then he then he picked 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.880 it up those last two years with her ball, I 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.000 don't know if you want to call it that. And 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.959 then he got hurt. Yeah. Great. They one of the 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.640 best defenses of all time. They still do. But and 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:15.560 they ran the ball crazy. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.440 But anyway, he comes from the Niners to the Chiefs 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.240 and instantly become like a Pro Bowl player. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:23.400 They win in in playoffs. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.600 Andy Reid goes to the Chiefs. They're terrible, they were winning. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.120 They get there with any read, they start winning. The 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:34.360 Eagles they were trash. Right he gets there, they start winning. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.839 So my point to you is, Okay. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.480 Belichick's been in the same division for twenty five years, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.240 so the whole division is designed to try to beat him. No, 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:46.400 no more, not anymore. But that's what it happens. People 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.400 can't wait to play the Patriots now. So I don't 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:49.839 want make this about I don't think that. I don't think. 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.680 I don't think the quarterbacks too. I mean, I don't 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:54.280 know if that means. I don't know. I just know this. 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:55.839 They don't look disciplined. 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.960 They don't look they don't they don't play smart football 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.520 they used to play. I don't see the development in 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.960 the players. I'm being now, I'm being serious. Before I 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.560 was like, damn, he got better. That guy got better. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:06.720 Dan. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.679 They look disciplined. We always just say this. Playing the Patriots, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.800 they won't beat themselves. Now when I watch them. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.680 I can't. I can't argue that. You can't I can't 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:23.319 argue that right now, come on with the fundamentals. But 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:24.360 he's still a great coach. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:26.680 I think he I think he's a really good coach. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.760 I do did you ask? Did you ever ask Tom? 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.200 I won't even Tom, I won't even put this, you know, 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.800 on air. But but Tom's you know, he's smart, hang 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.840 on to go back forth with me. He do stuff 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:36.080 like this. 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:37.600 He might smile. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.160 One time I did it, I take on on ballot 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.319 check and he's seen it and he d m'd me laughing. 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.880 Now he didn't get into it because you know, Tom 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:53.880 is like but he laughed like he knew, he know what, 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:54.960 he know what's going on. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.920 I get it. I get it. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.640 Yeah, But Shady, what do you say when people bring 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:06.240 up the ring disparity? Eight rings to three rings? Belichick? 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:07.800 To read. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:09.600 Tom Brady? 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:11.400 What about Mahomes? 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:12.880 Now, let me ask you a question though. All right, 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.800 you know Mahomes are even starting for about five years, 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.000 right right? You know that that's like what Tom was doing. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:22.480 Who Yeah, Patrick Mahomes has been to five FC Championship 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:23.080 games in a row. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.120 He's been to three Super Bowls, two winners. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.040 What you tell me you could have like that no 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.760 Matta injury, had Tom Brady, you know you know what 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:38.120 that would look like. See, God knows what he's doing God, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:39.520 and he wanted he didn't want to give him that. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:43.199 All that power. Boy, we even read fifteen championships. Come 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.679 on with you know what I'm saying? What we talk 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.080 about here? What are we talking about? 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.480 Then when he got there, he had all them freaking 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.280 Hall of Fame defensive players. He's such a great defensive coach. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.640 I'm thinking, like, is he boy? Because he had LT 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:56.840 that was hard to coach. Hey, man, put your mouth. 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.160 He's in. He's your first guy to ever make nickel 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.640 for the San Francisco forty nine ers. That Indy Ree 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.480 was on that staff. So they tell you that. Okay, 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.520 look he's in first. Literally he was the first guy 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.920 to pull a line back ground. Then we go to. 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.920 So Lt, then he then he goes to the Patriots. Right, yeah, 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.920 we're gonna skip over that Brown segment because that was. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.520 Real bad football. They were good. They were good, good 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:19.840 one year competitive. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.320 Then we go to the Patriots. They had all these 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.760 Hall of Fame defensive players something like him. My first 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.120 year was oh nine, I remember playing dude named Richard Seahorn. 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.800 He played for the Raiders. Raiders and they was like, man, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.640 he's really good. We should see when he was younger. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:35.440 I'm not younger. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.680 He was a beast man watch him as a young dude. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.880 Didn't need him cornerback then, had he drafted him good. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.640 All I'm saying is when you talk about how great 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:44.760 of a coach he is and then they go to 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.800 the defense. Now he is crafty with the way he schemes. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.320 I'll give him that. I Givehi credit because I played 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:53.440 against him. But you can't get credit for all them 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.560 great defensive players like Bro at one time you went 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.280 in do you want. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:58.640 Na Hall of Famous on on air? 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:00.520 It's a lot of them Bro, A lot of them 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:01.800 at one point at one time. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.280 Yeah, but he was a huge part of getting him there. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.160 He was so their defense is so good that saying 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.760 was one of the best defensive players I've seen, especially 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:11.320 as a corner. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.160 You weren't even starting at the time. They're like, they're 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:20.080 like law and uh and I forget his name. Anyway, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:21.920 that team was loaded. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:26.360 They were then God has given him time, Like come on, man, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.040 I hate to do it to your God you know 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:29.520 what I'm saying. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.080 You can't say it. I can say, you can't say it. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:35.200 But the thing is, every great coach has a quarterback 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.960 linked to them. Andy Reid ain't linked to anything he's 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.560 done before this Kansas City team. I can't say that. Yeah, 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.320 you can one of the most offensive lines in football. Yeah, 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.000 but he never won super Bowls. Like we keep on, 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.400 it's hard to do that. It's very hard to do. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.720 And if you don't have Tom Brady anything, if you 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.160 don't win that many that quick, probably not give him 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:57.800 a guy like Mahmes. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:58.800 You see how that ship going. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:03.400 Yeah, we got a generational talent, That's all I'm saying. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:03.520 Bro. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.720 So that's the common factor. You gotta have a generational talent. 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:07.520 I mean, and he's done it. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:11.240 There's many ways over the man the wall. You can 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.440 go around it, you can go under it, you can 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:14.240 go over it. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.120 If any if any had the Patriots, they will win games. 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.280 They won't be they won't be like the bombs of 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:21.320 the division. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.120 They wouldn't have the defense. Though our team played like 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.240 complimentary football. I don't know. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.960 All I'm saying is if Andy Reid right today right, 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.280 if Tom left, I'm going to I'm going to tample cool. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:35.960 And they brought any reading there right where to the Patriots? 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:37.880 They will be winning games. 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.720 The quarterback that he plays around with, he starts in 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.920 one game and don't all that kids shop he does, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.080 and he would make Mac Jones, he would make He 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.560 would make Mac Jones a better player than he is today. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.840 You would see development was telling truth. I mean I 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.200 had that's a good take. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.200 He's always always done it though he's and he's always 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.640 done that better and better and better and better. So 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:01.280 did he draft don drafted him? How about this? Peterson 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:02.280 was the quarterback first? 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:07.400 Yeah, that's right, And any drafts very well have two 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:12.400 seconds drafted me. That drafted myself, DeShawn Jackson, Travis Kelce, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:18.160 Jason Kelce, Patrick Mahomes, Jason Tyreek Hill, Jeremy Macklin. 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.520 I could do this forever. He drafts good offensive guys. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.840 It's the same way Bill goes on defense. 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.600 I mean, after after that Hall of Fame group, I 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.719 mean we didn't see the more of that since, right, 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.480 I mean there were some good defenses we played on. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.840 We never feared that the Patriots defense. Which one? Which team? Any? 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.600 I mean I got there and what fifteen. How many 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.920 times you beat us when you're in Buffalo, Never beat you, guys. 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:50.200 Right of the defense, because it's a great defense. Because 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:54.960 this big dude with these big boots at the quarterback. Yeah, 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.680 let's go, guys, Go babe, Let's go babe. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.360 Because of him gets higher and higher, the more fiery. Yep, 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.960 oh yo. I got some tom stories though, well a 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.000 little save it. That was just us shooting the ship. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.640 We got to messing around. Let's get to it, let's 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.120 get into it. Come on, Bill, let's tell us why 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:19.320 you picked the game? The snow overtime game Colts versus 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:24.120 Bill's Week fourteen, twenty seventeen. Why did I pick it? Yeah? 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.800 Why'd you pick this one? I didn't pick it? Who 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.159 picked it? I was? 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:29.520 I thought Shady picked it. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:30.840 I didn't pick it. I mean I had a good 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.000 game here, but I didn't pick it. 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.600 Who We got it from your people that you want 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:35.120 to do this game. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:36.560 I got a lot of good I mean, this is 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:37.920 a good game. We got a lot of good games. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:39.520 I had a lot of good games. Chris, we can 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.760 pick this one. We go to whatever you want to do. 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:42.680 You were great in the snow. 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:44.560 Yeah, this is we do a snow game. It's another one. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:46.080 It's another snow game I had. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:47.479 The other one had twenty yards, but this one had 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.280 like one what you had to walk off tomoral quick. 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.720 You said this before, and I should play, I said, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:55.680 brest Bran, he's lying. 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.920 He I don't remember. He ain't playing no defense. And 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.480 you know what. They looked it up and I said, oh, Ship, 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:04.560 that's damn. I didn't know that. He jumped right over me. Yeah, 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:05.480 looking at the sneak. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.600 But I gotta give you some flowers though, too, though, 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.200 because I remember watching you play. You always play with 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.720 like a lot of heart, tough, like who the little 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.040 white dude over there? You gonna you making dudes miss? 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:16.920 You catch the ball and you fight after the catch. 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.440 You know that's something you only see a lot, you know. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.760 Dudes they hit the hit the deck when they yeah, 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.560 wore my body out and you block block, got it 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.200 on it, got it. When Wis didn't block for me, 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.280 I would do stuff like this. I would run hardert 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.040 ship into their back right, so I would have I 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.200 had a lot of fast, got like Shawn Jackson backling, 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:39.359 so they got smart. 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.720 What they would do is that they're always blocking. They 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.719 run the ground. They running a round. That's cool. Got 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:49.840 expand though, that's but they got that type of speed. 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:51.480 They got they they you know you're backing off a 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.600 little bit. Yeah, I'll run that. I will put my 0:19:54.680 --> 0:20:01.440 whole in the back boom. You gotta block, e god 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.080 of block. Well, we don't know why you picked this game, 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.840 but you have plenty of games, right I do. I 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.119 have a lot of a lot of them, Yeah, a 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.159 lot of good ones. Yeah. I like that. It's just 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:13.280 set up like this is perfect. 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.120 Facts like this whole John the transition from the Fox 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:18.680 Sports Like, I like all this, You like that, this 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:20.639 is this is how this is like a New England 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:27.280 Rand podcast, very detailed, detail oriented, fundamentally sound like that. 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.880 You know what I mean, just Jack, That's what they say. 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:32.400 Sloppiness is a disease. 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.040 Sloppiness is a disease. It was you can't win until 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.440 you keep from losing. We gotta we gotta preach those 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.080 old things that I heard in New England to New 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:40.719 England right now. 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.760 My first year playing with a dude name of Patrick Chunk. Yeah, 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.119 we're the same dragon class, but I didn't know him, 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.280 you know, But when he came to Philadelphia from Patriots. 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.520 I don't know what is about Patriots players that maybe 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.640 it might be jealousy that you know players. I guess 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.760 them only care from that much. 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.320 Right, Yeah, guys don't. So we came to the cool dude. 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.200 When I got to know him, and I remember saying, uh, yeah, 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.800 this ain't all that Patriots scheme. This ain't gonna work here. 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.240 You gotta tackle me. You don't talking trash to him 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.879 like because I didn't respect his game, and he was 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.960 the first dude I said, Okay, he can play. He's 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.359 not the Patriots scheme. He actually is a good player, 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:17.720 and we became cool after that. 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.359 I beat him a lot, but he would get me sometimes. 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.600 Chun Chum was good though we were drafting the same year. 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:26.960 I'm two thousand and eight as well. Oh I don't know. 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.320 Me and Chung we would fight every day in practice, 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.399 like our first three years, every fucking day just because 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.240 I had to come in and get the forest of safety. 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.920 He'd be that guy, and there's like no brother in 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.040 law in that practice like you. Sometimes you certain guys 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.000 Chung where he would go hard, I'd go harder because 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:46.719 Chung's feisty. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.239 Yeah, yeah, he got he got little dog, he's got 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.000 some he's got some dude's crazy. 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.639 Yeah, but you the same way. Yeah, there's a lot 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.440 of those guys that over there. How's the transition been 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.520 going to TV? Fox? Because you're getting some play now 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.399 full time on Speak. It used to just come in 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:07.119 and they just said, hey, you know, want you minees 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:07.439 was all. 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.680 I won't say difficult, but it was different because like, 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:12.440 I didn't go to a lot of different like boot 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.800 camps and stuff like that, and I would do like 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.920 media and stuff like that just as a player. And 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.240 once I got done, I enjoyed a couple of months 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:22.399 of just living like. 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.760 I small things. I take your kids to school. 0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:27.080 I never can do that, and I was like, damn, 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.639 I like this and traveling and stuff like that. But 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.000 then I got bored, right, I said, let me get 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.919 into this whole TV thing. And I went in there 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.399 and my people reached to, you know, different networks, and 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.160 I felt more comfortable with Fox because you'd be more free. 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:43.399 And I loved it. 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:46.639 I mean, it's helped me out with staying relevant in 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:50.679 the football world, but also just I think a standpoint 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:54.120 of like missing a game but being close enough where 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:55.520 I'm not actually playing and getting hit. 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:59.680 It's the best. It's because like we all need a 0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.760 foot fix if you're a football player, like and then 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.080 you know, there's like a couple different avenues you can go. 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.560 You can go coaching. But like when you were when 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.560 you were a player and you were leaving work, which 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.080 you were already putting in hell hours, your coaches families 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.040 were in the fucking parking lot watching and saying hi 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:22.360 before they go back for another three hours at least, 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:26.560 you know, coaches, they work, so like you gotta love 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.680 I love football, but I did my time. You know 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.440 I can't. That's that's too much time. This is the 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:36.000 perfect amount of time where you get your football fix. 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:37.920 You get a little locker room vibe with the people 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.280 that you're casting with, yes, where you guys could talk 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:42.600 war stories and ship Like when I did inside the 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.800 NFL for two years, you know, I had Phil Simms, 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:50.720 Ray Lewis, Brandon Marshall. So you get to sit Mike Irvin, 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:52.639 like you get to hear and like that's what you 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:54.920 do in the locker room, bust each other's balls and 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:58.280 talk shit. And then you get to have an actual 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.760 life too with it, you know, So like that's the 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.440 that's I think TV is awesome and you're keeps you 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.040 in the game. Yeah, because now I'm watching more film 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.119 with everyone. I used to just watch your opponent and 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.879 just It's the hardest thing for me is knowing people's names. 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.119 I just know people's numbers. You know, you study all right, 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.920 he's quicker than fast. This that he's used off hand 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.920 jam and you're just going numbers. Now you got to names. 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:22.879 And that was one thing for me is that was. 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.919 Tough because I've had some struggles with TV, like, for example, 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:27.480 like now I'm getting better at it because I'm so 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:31.600 raw and new at it. Where I called Dak Prescott ass, 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.000 I'm lying, I say his ass ass, but in all reality, 0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.040 I should have said it different, like he's playing like 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.320 ass because there's a lot of ass quarterbacks. 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:43.240 He's not as ass. Yeah he ain't. Is he one ass? 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.680 But I should have said more like he's playing like 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.320 ass because I think he's an average average quarterback. 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:48.960 Right, He's not. 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:52.520 He's not He's not a Uh Jones or he's not 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:56.280 a what's the guy from the Bears. He's not just that, 0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:58.960 you know what I mean, he's uh. I think he's 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.040 like evers average. 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:05.520 He's basically a cooler Kirk Cousins. I think they're the 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.399 same person That's what I mean. But he's cooler, but 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.919 his persona is cooler. I don't know about that. Kurt's 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.240 got like nerd vibe and then like Dak's got brand, 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.440 like you know something. He plays for the Cowboys. I 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.160 don't know how much how cool he is, Like I don't. 0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.200 He don't come off as like cool, but he doesn't 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:23.960 come off as a nerd. 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:25.640 I don't think Kirk has come up as a nerd. 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:26.720 He got the chains, only. 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:29.200 Got the little thing. I don't. He comes on. He 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.760 gives you nerd vibes. Okay, what else, that's how you 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.760 see it. But anyway, all great quarterbacks have nerd in them. 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.720 Though Tommy was not nerdy. Tom's got a little nerd 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.960 in them. Bro do we Yeah he didn't. You didn't 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.200 get to see real time. You guys ranted him. He 0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:52.760 ranted tom didn't open up a certain it's certain quarterbacks 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.080 quarterbacks at gonna be cool overall anyway, Like Patrick Mahomes 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.440 got a little nerd in him. He's like dorky nerds. 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:00.560 Sometime I hung out with that kid before he was 0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:03.479 Patrick Mahomes his rookie year he got he just got 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:04.800 a little nerd in him. I won't call him that, 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:07.880 but I mean, I guess allolds are cool, but it's 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:08.480 still nerds. 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.600 All quarterbacks have like a a like not a not 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.800 a cool thing. But it's like they're the quarterbacks, like 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.000 you know what I mean, They're not gonna be super now. 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:18.000 Vic was super cool. 0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:22.520 Vigga is cool, but like the Shyburns. I tell him 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.440 that every time I see him. I said, Yo, dude, 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.199 I used to go to my barber and I said, Yo, 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.720 give me the Vic cybers a little bit of er 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.159 and go down to here, bro Viggas. 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.320 I'm gonna lie when uh he came in Philadelphia my 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.320 rookie year, me Deshaun and back when. 0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.920 We're all young and he was god and we was like, Yo, 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.439 Michael Victor stopped in the building. Now we came through. 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:46.120 Hold up, Mike, what's up? What's up? What's upro nice? 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:47.399 Meet drowing me. I'm shady. Nice to me. 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.040 He leaves like yo, my hand, like oh go my mom, 0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.159 like no vixer. So that was a crazy thing to 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.399 be like that. He like the everybody's idol. It'd be 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.359 games where like dudes are going back and forth and it' 0:26:59.359 --> 0:26:59.959 getting disrespect. 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:05.200 Vic speak everybody chill out. So he was cool. 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.159 But as far as quarterbacks, they all are just like 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.159 okay with the whole coolness and all that. 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.760 Vic's different status for when it comes to swag though, 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:17.040 like okay, you can't put Vic in nerd category, you know, 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.720 but a lot of quarterbacks Josh Allen, what you gonna 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.920 say about him? He's got a little nerd, does he? No? No, nah, 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.800 what you say about him? I said, you don't know 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.000 the word that is not nerd. It's gonna be he 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.240 got reckless in them. Yeah, there's a lot of that. 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.680 It's it's, it's, it's it's it's so much over he's 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.400 so reckless. I'm just saying it's over over, not over. 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.600 But I'm saying, like we keep on saying that the 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.639 same thing about Josh Allen each year. He's that tchallenge 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.800 he's gonna make. I know, but when does it become 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:46.240 a problem? 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:46.560 Man? 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.040 He got he listened. I was I was on TV 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:49.480 talking about this. 0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.040 They thought I was tripping. I said, if a guy 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.880 like that Prescott throws, has the most picks last year 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:56.760 and plays five less games. 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.760 Right, everybody's alarmed, like, oh, what the heck is? 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:01.960 Right, But when there's certain talented dudes, but they're ceiling 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:06.080 is so high and their baggage, shit, they could be productive. 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.840 Running the ball, throwing the ball, but they're gonna bring picks. 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:09.840 You're gonna take that luggage just because he's so good 0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:16.040 and a dude like Brett Farr had a lot of 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.560 that in it. Only one one, only one one. He 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.760 been there twice. You know, hard is to win championships. 0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:22.560 See See that's the. 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:26.120 Problem that Patriots people have. Y'all think everybodyless win championships 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.240 every year. It don't happen like that. Brother, nerds are 0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:29.640 no nerves. 0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.680 They don't win like that. If you're an all time 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.960 great at that position, you should have more. Like there's 0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:35.840 less than you think. 0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:37.080 Especially when he got Belichick. 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:38.440 There's less than you think. 0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.800 Especially old How many of course you ges is run 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.360 around is having all these championships? You think Peyton Man 0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:46.920 is a great quarterback right right too, he only has two. 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:49.760 Drew Brees is one of the most accurate cours I've 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.800 ever seen. He has one Aaron Rodgers is so great. 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.560 Here's one. So when you look at these numbers, yeah, 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.040 but they're lower on the totem pull of the greats. 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:09.440 Who's at the top. What you play? He's the best 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:12.440 player out of everybody. Tom Is you got Joe Montana 0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:16.120 at four? What he had? Four championship? Yeah? Who else? 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.800 Come on, she's gonna get real hard. 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.640 I mean yeah, it gets hard with the multiple but 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.960 you have to like, I don't know, man like Seork 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:27.120 Tradman has how many three? 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.640 How good was he? It was? You know where we 0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:32.680 talking about, No, we're nerd. These guys were talking about. 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:33.520 Do you get what I'm saying. 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.640 So when I look at Josh if you went up 0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:38.719 with Josh Allen, when I saw I played with him 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.200 as a rookie, he's he always had that ending. 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.000 He gets real wild up, he gets I know, and 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.080 that's something you think you could coach out of a guy. 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.479 But we're here seven now. I don't think he'll talk. 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:47.720 I don't think you'll never get rid of that. I 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.560 think he gets maybe lose. 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.320 Your games so shady and he hadn't won a super 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.200 Bowl yet. He's got he's got a talented roster see 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.200 that's the thing that I got very talented roster. People 0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.120 be talking like he's a loser. He's not. He's not 0:29:59.160 --> 0:29:59.560 a loser. 0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.120 So up so the same the same way he's been playing. 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.280 He's played that same way for the last three four years. 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.200 Right, I would say he's he's gotten a little worse 0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.960 ever since Stayball left. But day Ball a coach doesn't 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.880 know that he's I mean, yeah, I know, but he's. 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.600 But when you say he's, he's his production. Yes, he's 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.200 been electric and he's No one's taking talent away from 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:23.080 Josh Allen, but I'm saying I'm saying him at the 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.479 quarterback position executing at a high level. And we can 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.000 all talk about the regular season and stuff, but these 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.800 things are happening in the most important games that he's playing, 0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:34.400 where he's turning the ball over in the red area's 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:34.920 turn and. 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.160 It's it's constantly happening. When is it like, all right, 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.720 we gotta like, what what do you do with that? 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:42.400 I hope you don't. I mean, what do you do 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.680 with that? Which which you option? 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.800 Especially with such a quarterback dense league, Right, so so 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.120 there's an option that because that team's gonna blow up 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.400 here soon put the option that I'm about to say 0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:55.560 that can't happen. 0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:57.600 It's just you get rid of me. No, You're not 0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:58.280 gonna get rid of me. 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.240 What I'm saying is maybe he can change turn it 0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.200 down a little bit. But that's what he is. And 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.240 if you look at the numbers, right, the dude wins, 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.120 bro he wins you. But I'm not saying but he 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.440 wins in that fashion. He wins in that wold fashion. 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:12.600 I'm gonna throw the ball crazy, I'm running about why 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.320 I'm a fumble, but we're gonna win this game. 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.240 The truth an Andy Reid Patrick Mahomes team don't make 0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:22.880 those mistakes in the playoffs. That's true. And we're not 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.240 talking I'm not talking about Josh Allen as like a 0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.920 seven to eight quarterback. We're talking about him vying to 0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.600 be a number one quarterback in this league. And with 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.880 those kind of things, that's that's where I'm putting him 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.320 because of the talent he needs to be in that 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.120 upper echelon and like those things. Thinks there's no other 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:42.280 quarterback in the league like him. 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.719 There isn't, Bro No, So it's like and it all 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.000 got different superpowers and got a superpower. 0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.200 You know that he is the most all of them. 0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.400 So I heard from a player that played with him 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.560 and the guy that has played with Daniel Jones, and 0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.960 he says Daniel Jones is way more accurate than them. 0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:02.560 And the thing is that, dude you're talking about you 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:04.320 shouldn't even talk to him. No more about no sports. 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.160 That should be a last conversation. Should you should go 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:07.520 to something? 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:11.600 So what you eat? Accuracy? Pure accuracy? Is playing right now? No? 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:13.920 Or is he where's he living at? I don't know 0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:17.320 what I'm not throwing no, no, no. The next question 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.080 have been dangn So what are you eating? Were eating 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.200 tonight for for dinner? Do you where you want to? Like? 0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:23.920 After he said that issue, no more football conversation, ever, 0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.880 how's the kids? Like? You know what I'm saying? Like 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.880 as nice car? You got bro like a subject? What 0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:32.920 was he talking about? Jones? Like that? 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.160 Look like he Come on, man, I ain't about to 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:37.400 dis dagl Jones because he did it. He did hisself enough. 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:38.680 What are we talking about? 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:46.480 Next question? Name? So we got a segment where we 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.960 go back in the time of where this game took place. 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:55.160 This game took place December tenth, twenty seventeenth, and the 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.040 number one movie was Coco. You ever seen that. I've 0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.080 never heard that movie. It's like it's a animation, right, 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.440 it's what do the kids? 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:11.040 Rocky, I gotta do this all day. 0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:21.840 He's kind of he easy, he's he's a lovey, lovey dovey. Yeah. 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:27.240 Number one song rock Star by post Malone that went, 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:31.520 I love that song, Featur post Malone. I remember when 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.200 Molly ma mm hmmm. 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.320 Anyway, I was at his house and I met post 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.520 Malone because before he was big and he was like, yo, 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.440 I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a big ass star. 0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.920 I'm looking at him like you. He smell the cigarettes. 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.560 He was braided then too right, braided. Yes, I said, well, 0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.440 good luck, and sure enough he's a big star. And 0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:55.080 happy for him. 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.600 Man, there's always that cigarette had me trick for a second. 0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.360 What he's like, twenty some years old, a. 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:07.440 Little cigarette, big star, man, I'm telling you, man, and 0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:10.120 man he did it happy. So you thought that because 0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.560 of the cigarette, like the way he smoked the cigarette, 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.319 it was cool factor that maybe it could happen or. 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.680 What was it was more like I never seen a 0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.759 twenty some year old kids smoking cigarettes. I never really 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:22.560 you grew up in Pennsylvania. 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:23.920 No smoked cigarettes out there. 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.680 They smoke weed at twenty two years old. Twenty two Yeah, 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.120 it ain't cigarettes is like an old people thing. It's 0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.279 probably a coastal thing. Like your grandma, Hey, go get 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:32.439 me a lucy from the from the store. 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.960 Okay, grandma, go get the cigarette. Yeah you got. We 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:36.279 used to have to give him note, you know what 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.480 I'm saying. But the kids like twenty twe twenty and 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.920 they smokeing weed. Everyone. Now there is a vape. All 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.920 these kids vape bro It's crazy. They evade the flavored tobacco. 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.000 I know, but I guess the look of a cigarette 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.879 like some old people thinking like and kind of cool. 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.080 And he was he just right, he's my cigarettes. Nah. 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.759 Oh he smoked like this though. That's really killed me, 0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.160 Like oh, you know. 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.600 What I'm saying, like, oh, that was like this right 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.040 then he turns around and dropped white irons. Old come 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.520 on right like one. 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.560 Of my favorite songs smoked cigarettes. You know that party. 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.400 I went out to Amsterdam of Nice and he was 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.799 performing there and we got linked up and we played 0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.719 beer bong before and after the show. For hours. He 0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.480 was this is cool, dude, cool, cool as hell cool 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.640 the circuits for a loop. Yeah at twenty you know 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:30.000 what I mean. So if you're smoking cigarettes and you're 0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.719 under the age of twenty two, shady things, this is like, 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.200 what the fuck are you doing? 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.880 Yeah, I'm with you right trip there. 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.600 Yeah, you gotta go to Europe. All the kids down 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.520 there are smoking. We need to get we need to 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.880 just have you do PSAs for non smoking for anyone 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:47.960 I'm under the age of twenty two, I'm not on it. 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.680 I'm just I love that. That's good. We got children. 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.000 You got a three year old, I got a six 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.720 year old. I agree. I just do we need PSA? 0:35:55.160 --> 0:36:02.240 I figure shady. You know around this time, Virgil drops 0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.400 his Nike collabse the ten You remember, do you have 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:08.920 any Virgils? I never really got into his. I don't 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:10.960 really wear sneakers. I were like shoes. You know what 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.880 I'm saying. Products. I don't really get crazy with like 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:15.000 how much you know you're rich? 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:16.719 No, no, no, no, just never even when I was 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.759 a kid, Like, I mean, can we just we haven't 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:23.000 even talked about the Oh no, that does it spin? 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:28.160 No? No, no, the spinners that that was her time. 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.279 I'm not a crazy jewelry I used to do, You're 0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:33.120 not a crazy jewelry guy. You have a big ass 0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:35.360 piece on it. And I watched that. It is literally 0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.160 we had to put that blind up there so the 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.440 light wouldn't hit me in the eye off those diamonds. 0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.240 There was a certain time and I was like crazy 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:44.960 with it. If I was to tell you some of 0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.640 the dumb stuff I used to purchase, I thought I 0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:48.120 was a rapper. 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.280 I think I don't know. But anyway, what this crazy 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.440 jewey on not no more's like this is likes. This 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.160 is like you can't do it in l A either. 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.560 You get ganged out here. I mean, I'm gonna do 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.279 wherever I'm at in the city. I don't know your 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:01.920 purse took. I don't know. I don't know. 0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.239 I don't know if it's la is crazy like Philadelphia. 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:08.640 It's different now though one's way way worse yees, but 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:09.480 it's I've. 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.320 Been seeing people like I watched those videos, like I 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.319 seen dudes getting taken out of cars over on Beverly Hills, 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.839 taking out the car. Yeah for a watch for those 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:22.840 AP's or those That's why Richard Mills. Crazy question. What 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:27.840 was life like for Lashawn McCoy in twenty seventeen? So 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.720 how many years in are you right now? You're probably 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:35.040 what five? Six? Yeah, so I'm thinking you're bretted, Yeah, bredded, 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:36.920 You're bretted. This was in Buffalo. 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.720 So I had a I had a big deal in Philly, 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.719 and then when I got traded in fifteen, they gave 0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.320 me a new deal. I remember, you got trade yourself pissed. 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.040 I would like to feel like this guy is gonna 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:49.080 be a problem in our division. 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.640 And then uh so something was nice. Man. This year 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:58.160 Pro Bowl year like six and Russian I think fifth 0:37:58.160 --> 0:37:59.040 and Rusling. That a good year. 0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.200 We didn't win, went to the playoffs this year, though, 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.959 you know, Buffalo was that was a that was tough, 0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:09.960 that transition from going to philid up at the Buffalo, 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.880 you know, because because like my home, my house where. 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.600 I grew up at, it's an hour away from the stadium. 0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.800 Right, Yeah, So getting traded, I was like it was 0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.359 just I was the best, second best friend the team 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:25.719 at the time behind Jason Peters. Oh, he's the best 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:30.000 part to play with not being a quarterback. Yeah, and 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.720 I played with some dudes Jason. Jason was like different anyway. 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.440 And then going there, I was just like, damn, I 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.120 just didn't feel comfortable. Small things you don't even think of, 0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.400 like have a bad game, I'm going home, not to 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.320 my house where I live at, but to my my 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:43.799 house where my parents live at our away. 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.000 Small things like that, and all my family was there 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.480 and everything. And then go on the Buffalo. It's not 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.719 a big city. You know, it's cold, there's nothing really 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:57.360 there for easy. It's cold, but I got to love it. 0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.799 It's a great city though. Good people that live. 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:04.480 There, have some good coaches, got great fans, great fans. 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:05.640 Those fans are nuts. 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:09.600 And I was sitting like like on our way in 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:11.279 and out, I was it was like it was like 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.279 a thing you got ready for. When you see all 0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.480 the fucking crazy ship people jumping bro. 0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.640 Stuff, people think real quick they think it's a game. 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.000 I'm saying, yo, that stuff they do on TV, all 0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:22.080 that they doing for real. 0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:22.640 Yeah. 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.000 Our first we had our first Thursday night game in Buffalo. 0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.640 They didn't haveing it for so long. Right, it was Thursday, 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:36.520 the game Monday, there were r vs parked out. 0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:38.600 I'm like, damn, the game ain't for three more days. 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.960 They go crazy crazy. Yeah, so that's there's like a 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.000 camping area it is. Yes, it's weird. Yeah, and I 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:51.400 love Buffalo. What happened in sports NFL MVP Tom Brady 0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.359 we both played for. I got a question who's better? 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.160 Tom or hold On? Don't know more questions about that. 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:59.680 Tom is the best player to ever touch football. So 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:03.560 you know, until Mahomes goes out there and the homes 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.479 as bad as he is. My homes is my first 0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.600 practice with him. Andy Reed is tight. My first practice. 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:14.560 I get there and he faced the ball the year 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:18.680 this is twenty twenty no no, no, no, twenty nineteen, 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.200 takes the ball face to me. 0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:22.600 I run outside and. 0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:24.839 He's I'm thinking he's gonna throw he looks, he looks 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:26.880 me off right. I'm like the third option, you know, 0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.120 the look the check down. He's looking like he's about 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:30.480 to throw the. 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.640 Ball to like an over route. Makes sense. He whips 0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:35.120 that shit to me. 0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:40.239 Oh, I've never seen a quarterback throw a bullet. No, look, 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.120 that was the first time ever seen it. And Andy 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:45.879 Reed smiled at me like, you know, I'm a gang 0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.400 Like this dude is really that good, bro. And he 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:53.680 was so good that he taught me that the stuff 0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:58.919 he was doing he only started for because he sat 0:40:58.960 --> 0:40:59.759 the bench the first year. 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.080 People don't know that. The next year he came out. 0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.480 He went crazy. But he was so good. He wasn't 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.800 even like he needed more development. 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.560 So like small things dropping back in the pocket, the 0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.319 pressure comes, I'm gonna step up, liver the ball. 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.759 He didn't do that. He would wait, he would he 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:15.680 would run around all that crazy shit because he still 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.360 was learning. He'll still do from saying. 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.839 Yo, in three four, five years, this league is gonna 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.239 be scary because this dude is gonna get better. 0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:25.799 And it's better. He's already he's alread up. Heiod is good. 0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.560 He gets better, it's gonna be scary. It already is, 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.239 it already is. And he throws a football like a 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:37.719 bit like baseball. Everything like a baseball. His pops, his 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.960 pops is funny too. I spoke that barrow. You didn't 0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:45.560 see that? Oh you didn't see that the vid? Yeah? Yeah, 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:49.279 after was it after the super Bowl? Damn arrow head, God, 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.080 damn barrel head. I'm smoking that barrel. I love that. 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:55.640 He seems like a character. Yeah, the ice cool, he 0:41:55.760 --> 0:42:01.960 seems cool. Eagles one Mayweather McGregor fight. That was Did 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:06.080 you watch that? We in Brentwood? But oh, j God, 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.759 in prison? We are? Can we go see his house? 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:11.640 We can't after if you want, it's. 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.960 The juice real quick. I don't condone none of that craziness. 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:19.359 But the juice was loose when he got out of jail. Oh, 0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.160 he's definitely loose out of jail. 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:24.920 Though. My number was the first jersey he wore. Can 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:28.160 I brag about that? Or no? I mean, it is 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.840 the juice? Jack? Can he brag about that? 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:34.719 I mean, how many people can say that? 0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:37.480 Is? You? 0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:38.160 Guys ever meet? 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.959 We talked on We talked. I think we did talk before. 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:42.960 I mean, oh, I don't really get talked too much. 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:44.840 He can't, you know what I mean. I don't know 0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:48.960 I pissed him off. I might not even, but I 0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.160 just want I was. I'm a fan of his football stuff. 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:52.520 The glove don't fit. 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:56.200 You must have quit for they said recipes Johnny Cochran, Dude, 0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:57.120 he's safe up there. 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.680 That was insane, that whole thing. 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.160 Did you want watch the documentary? Yeah, there's like I've 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.400 watched them all. I remember it like it was yesterday. 0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.359 It was. It was the ninety four or something. Did 0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:13.040 he do it? Definitely did it? Didn't he? And my dog? 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.160 I mean it? This is crazy, right, let's say it's 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:20.960 so ship Yeah yeah. So what we're doing in social 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:26.920 man social media in two thousand and seventeen, well we 0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:28.359 got jack Man. 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.040 We were a couple of weeks before this game. They 0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:33.840 announced we had the color rush going for for the Bills, 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:34.640 that all reds. 0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:35.640 Those we're kind of fire. 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.160 And then uh afterwards, of course, to help the Bills 0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:44.040 get in the playoffs, Andy Dalton beat the Ravens, wasn't it. 0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.880 He did ra Yop Yop and his They saw some 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.040 on his money. What's it called like the gofund me? 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:51.919 That's right, but it raised like tons of money. 0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:53.960 Spoiler alert. I thought she was about to put up 0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:59.319 there about the the Avengers. Oh, we did justlide slide, 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:02.279 and we knew about that. You told everyone I followed you. 0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:04.719 I never watched the movie because you gave me the spot. 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:05.480 Knew what happened. 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:09.920 You gotta blame my eleven year old son, because you know, 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.160 first of all, I want to pole out to the 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:12.759 people out there. 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:16.759 I'm sorry. I take full accountability for that. I should 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:17.239 have known better. 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.960 But the thing is as accountable as a as an 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.719 all pro running back. I never just I wasn't big 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.719 on watching green monsters fight each other, but when I 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:28.920 was a kid, I did. I loved the Heart when 0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:30.640 I was a kid. Woll Ring Spider Man when I 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:31.040 was a child. 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:31.439 Cool. 0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:33.480 But as a daughter, I'm not watching that, but my 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.919 son does. And we have this thing where I treat 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:41.320 like an adult. Right, We have interviews, So I'm always like, 0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.120 you need to communicate better, you know what I mean? 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.560 So why do you have bed there in school? And 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:47.320 I need him sit there and tell me why. So 0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.760 we start doing that and it became an interview process. 0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:52.719 And from so I have a bad game and my 0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:54.520 son will be like, well, Dad, well what happened you 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:55.239 with the ball? 0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.000 Like right? So we go to movies to do the 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.319 same thing. The thing is the movie was so such 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:00.879 a big movie. 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:05.440 So when when Iron Man dude died, it was like 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.160 an interview, like who man, how you feel about himdying? 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:11.000 And and that's how it happened, That's how the truth. 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.600 And then I tweeted about it. You know, so, but 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.279 you don't want to hear that. You don't care about 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:19.880 that you ruined. A lot of those people are probably 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:20.560 really mad about that. 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.200 People get mad about I've been in the grocery store. 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:23.960 I see an old, old lady or old man, and 0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.560 I'm thinking about talking about fantasy because you know, from 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.160 there's never been running back to have better numbers than 0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:33.080 fantasy from twenty ten, from a one decade. 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:38.200 That's truth all decade tear. Yeah, right, So I'm thinking, oh, oh, 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.360 show you on my fantasy man. Oh, it cuts me. 0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.960 You you spoiled in games. I'm like, oh, she's pussed man, 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:45.800 I'm sorry. Can I Can I pay for your groceries? 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.239 You know what I mean? You pay for a grocery Yeah, 0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.560 I mean, come on, I respect my elders. He was 0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.360 cussing me out? Was it he or she? She? And 0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.080 hey they both did it before kids. 0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:59.160 All type of kids parents. I'm thinking when Simon udograss, 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.080 they want to cuts me out of the Avengers. So 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.560 that was and I lost a lot of Alexis deal. 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.520 See this is hitting me deep. Now he lost money, 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.960 but residuals by Alexis Deal that they took from me 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:13.120 because I spoiled. 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.640 The end games. I'm thinking, like, damn Lexis. 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Whenever I'm back home in Boston, you'll catch 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:58.879 me at the Encore sports book or on my win 0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:04.560 bed app. Can we set the stage for what these 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.200 teams the Indianapolis Colts this two battle, I. 0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.000 Mean awful, awful year for the Colts four and twelve 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:13.080 years about right? That sounds about we? I mean, LeJean, 0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:14.799 if you didn't know on this podcest we hate the Colts. 0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:21.040 On this podcast, we just had grond Con and he 0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.640 did not like the Colts. You don't. I wonder why 0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.319 you like your guys? Was like in competition or something 0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:26.520 of them. 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.080 They're there because. 0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:31.120 They're the ones that did the Flake Gates stuff. Oh 0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:36.800 but well you guys do cheat. No, we don't jest, 0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.120 I got a story. What's your story? One time we're 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.439 practicing for the playoffs? What team? 0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:45.239 One year we're in Tampa with a quarterback that you 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:49.680 are familiar with, and we're practicing in uh. 0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.520 In times that hold up, we gotta stop. We can't. 0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:54.719 We can't do these plays right now. 0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:56.840 They're like, well, why not Look at all these windows 0:47:56.880 --> 0:47:59.279 out here, like these windows are people probably? We think 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:02.640 like no, Like, man, no, they not listen. I'm telling y'all, 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:05.080 people can be in these windows watching the practice. We 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:05.759 can't do no more. 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:06.640 So what we do. 0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:09.480 We had to take the practice in the in the indoor. 0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:12.240 So when when we're all hanging out like the Office 0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:14.160 of Players, some of the coaches we laughed at, were like, yo, 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:18.560 there maybe some truth to that Patriot stuff, because out 0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.440 of everybody, it's freaking fifty three players and all the 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.800 other coaches. Now one person anything about practicing outside of 0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:28.279 the playoffs. But one man, you let me know what 0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:29.040 you think about that. 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.759 Yeah, because he knows that people may be out there 0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:33.200 doing that. 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:37.920 You never know, you fellow, check and listen. But I 0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.160 will say this, it's growing up in the hood. If 0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:44.960 you're not cheating, you ain't trying, so I respect it. 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:46.840 What do you there's no cheating? 0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.600 Okay, all right, back to the coach, back to back 0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.520 to the coach. Baby. This was the last year. Well, 0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.000 I'm sorry, last thing after that day. 0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:01.919 We've never had a practice outside of of the because 0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.759 it's so the outside practice field. 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.040 It's like it was that a hotel or something. We 0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:11.560 never did it ever again. Let you know that Tommy 0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:13.600 said weed not going out there because anybody can watch. 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:15.560 That just tells me that people that were in charge 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:27.440 didn't have the right mindset and cheat. Man, Come on, now, 0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:29.439 come on, get out of here. 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.280 This was the last year of Chuck Pegano and Indie. 0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:37.400 They got some notable names. This was Jacoby Brissett, Vinettieri, 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:41.000 Darius Butler, t Y Hilton, Frank Gore, Frank. 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:49.120 Gore beast notable names on the Indie only well he 0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.200 was a quarterback, starting quarterback for the game that we're 0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:56.319 about to dive into. I mean, okay, I. 0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.680 Guess Jacoby catching strays? 0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.760 No, Jacoby, who do we got out here? Let's should 0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.040 go to the bills. Let's go bill what we got bills? 0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:08.080 That's right? You see the boys, You see boys, you 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:11.319 see he's right on top though. Number one, my boy, 0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:13.240 Tye ride you Gota Jones balling. 0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:16.799 You got Matt Milano. Matt Malana bought out yesterday. Mike 0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:21.920 Tobart was really good for the Panthers from Beast Peterman. 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:24.720 He's from pit, your pit guy. Do you remember running 0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:28.799 back back in the day in Pennsylvania and Eugene Jarvis, Yes, 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.239 that was my running back. He beat my ass one 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.560 day in college like five foot six. He was truth though. 0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:36.560 He was the truth. 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.480 We played him in So how about this that year 0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:41.000 you're talking about they won a championship. 0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:42.200 He played for Central Catholic. 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:48.120 Yeah, all boys school. Anyway, we were top tartor we 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:49.760 were top you know what I mean. I was averaging 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:51.799 like three hundred dards a game. We played them. 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:53.759 They shut me down and he went crazy and they 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:57.799 beat us. He was a little monster. He was all right, 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:01.400 Jackie will go back. Sorry you said, Pitt. I forgot 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:01.920 to get that in. 0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:03.600 Oh, no, you're all good. I was going down a 0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.719 little bit of Central Catholic rabbit hole over here. First 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:11.640 year of Sean McDermott and as Leshawn alluded to earlier, 0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:14.760 this was the year that snapped the eighteen year playoff 0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:15.200 drought for. 0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:21.080 The eighteen year because we're tough this year they were. 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:23.279 Yeah, yeah, didn't like playing the Bills, all right, you 0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:24.520 didn't like the Bills really. 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.399 Nah, I mean you guys are always tough to play. Yeah, 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.960 but it was I mean, if we lost, it was 0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:33.880 something we did. Yeah, that's true. That is I can't lie. 0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:36.440 You're right, right, you're right. They were always competitive and 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:38.840 then you know at the by the time I left, 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:41.919 you could see him getting better and better. 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:44.920 Yeah, I mean it's different now. They can't wait to 0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:46.960 pay the Patriots. Now they can't wait like it was. 0:51:47.160 --> 0:51:49.239 You know, but it's kind of like this shady It's 0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:52.239 kind of like, you know, they're the big brothers in 0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:55.880 the division right now, right, big brothers. Yeah, they're like 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.160 the big bro or like the little brother that gets 0:51:58.200 --> 0:51:59.919 his ass beat by the big bro all the time 0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:03.279 him now right, like kind of like that. But now 0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:05.400 like when we were the big brother we could go 0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:08.759 out and beat the ship of all the brothers, you know, 0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.200 Now we look at it at the Bills and we're like, man, 0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:15.759 our big brother just they can't he still can't beat 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:16.600 up that one kid. 0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.360 I just I could never go against that because you 0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:22.280 guys were your big big brothers, like big big uncles. 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.680 I can't you know, you're right. I just it don't matter. 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:28.520 I don't even matter. I don't even get into it. 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.239 You're right, he's a little instigator, I can tell right now. 0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:36.239 Talking about what else, Jack, how was McDermott as a coach? 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:36.520 Oh? 0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:36.840 You know what? 0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.080 So I have a dermin in Philadelphia. He was the 0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:43.520 deepest coordinator. So you already know him. Good dude, good family, 0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:51.080 very smart, passionate. You know, everywhere he's been, he's been 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:51.960 successful for a reason. 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:57.120 Good coach. Can't say nothing bad about him? Yeah, what's he? 0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.719 What's he hurting over there? Right now? He's big on. 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.080 He's big on, like fundamentally sound doing like because you 0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:07.480 can tell he must pull his hair out when he's bald. 0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:09.319 But like when josh A throws pick. 0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.360 He can't do anything about it this because like, you 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:15.439 can't coach it, can't coach it because you talk about it, guys, 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:18.360 they'll think about it. Yeah, and then it's see, I 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:22.400 don't I mean some things. I feel like it's an attitude. 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:26.120 So in a mindset where sometimes right, I didn't really 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.719 fumble the ball. Really, that won't my thing, you know, 0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:30.600 But if I ever have a fumble, because I did, 0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.200 held the ball real, real loose, and it will be 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.839 like it would be constant my head. So now when 0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:38.719 I'm playing and running, when I get close to some ship, 0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:39.360 I'm like boom. 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:40.239 Right. 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:42.560 That's the only thing that with Josh that I can't 0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.560 figure out is like from office of corninators deepesst coordinators 0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:47.400 to coaches. 0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.520 To players you were, you would go to what you 0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:51.880 know best when you're more comfortable with. 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:54.520 So we can't really change as much if deeps coordinator 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:56.239 when it's the game's real tight and you have you 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:57.640 gotta have this play, gotta have to stop. 0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.360 He's gonna do what he's always done. Same was an 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:01.000 offic coordinator. 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.840 So my thing with Josh, I understand he plays reckless, 0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:05.719 but it gotta be a point where like, all right, 0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.880 I gotta be a little more cautious of. 0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:10.720 What I'm doing. I think he will. I mean someone's 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.279 good that I don't think. I don't think he will. 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:14.279 I just think he can do it a little bit right, 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:16.719 almost change when you she's got to capture it in 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:19.200 a bottle, man, fucking I don't know, I. 0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:20.040 Just like lightning. 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:21.879 Like even some of the plays like yo, why why 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:22.920 are you throwing this ball? There? 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:26.520 He throws into team meetings. There is like when we 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.160 were playing him at the end where like you can 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:32.839 tell they were they were tough. I remember like eight 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:36.120 eighteen nineteen. It was hard to beat those dudes, but 0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:39.520 we always counted on he was one. He's gonna give 0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:41.359 us one or two. Just don't turn the ball over. 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:44.919 You see what I'm saying. He's gonna give you five opportunities. 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:48.720 I know, I know for really, and he's also gonna 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.120 make these players that are gonna light you up. But 0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:54.719 there's gonna be that one, two, maybe three hours. It's 0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:56.359 like when he's like because even though when he threw 0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:58.400 the deep one the pick, he could get his ring 0:54:58.480 --> 0:54:59.840 that shit at the first dame why you? 0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:03.480 And then it's two deals on dig he's all mad 0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:05.840 and he's gotta he gotta show everyone why he's all Madden. 0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:08.640 There's a lot of losses. All right, let's do the 0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:09.880 game lead up with Jackie. 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:12.920 Leading into this one, we already touched on the Colt's 0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:15.920 four game losing streak. They were in free fall, the 0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:19.920 Bills trying to end that playoff drought. Coming into this 0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:21.400 one with playoff hopes still alive. 0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:22.160 Uh. 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.000 Nathan Peterman got his first home start this week. This 0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:29.120 is a couple of weeks after the infamous five interception game. 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:32.080 Do you remember that one, Shady? Remember that it was 0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:32.799 out here in l A. 0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:38.319 Right, yes, one, two, three, four? I mean and didn't 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:38.680 hold up. 0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:43.120 Even before the game started, Tyrod Taylor was doing solid, right, 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.080 I mean, his best receiver was Calvin Benjamin. 0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:47.400 He just came in. He ain't even yeah, he's like 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:50.680 a cup of coffee. So he's like, you know what. 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.160 He had a meeting with the captains. I'm a captain. 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:54.000 I can't believe it. 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.480 I was a captain and he's like, hey, we're thinking 0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.560 about starting Tyrod, or we're think about starting Nadan Peterman 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:01.640 I said, oh cool, cool, al right. So after the 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:02.840 met and he said, how do you feel about that? 0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:06.000 I said, coach, I don't love it. Tyrod, I ain't 0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.359 been playing that bad. And you know Nate, Nate has 0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:11.279 looking great on scout team. Now he was killing a 0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.560 scout team though, like Tom Brady, you know, can't get 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:16.640 hit in practice. He's I said, so why you I say, yeah, 0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:17.840 we still are in it a little bit. Why do 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:19.520 you want to start him? He said, well, my thing 0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:22.239 is if we start him now, right, he's playing against 0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:24.239 the Chargers and at the time they were sharing the 0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:24.959 stadium at. 0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:26.720 Like a little the small little stadium. 0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.480 Yeah, he said, it won't be loud, right, you know, 0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:32.520 so that won't affect him, and we get him in 0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:33.719 the hospital environment. 0:56:33.480 --> 0:56:34.000 A little bit. 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:36.880 I said, that makes sense. I guess I get it, 0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:39.239 but I don't think it's right. And sure enough we 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.279 got in that first game. He didn't take this time 0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:42.920 to throw them picks. He got that ship out the 0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:47.840 way early one pick, two pick, next drive, then the 0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:48.279 third job. 0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:50.640 I think I did my thing. I scored the fourth 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.840 another pick. I'm said, all right, coach, what the what 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.160 we trying to? What we doing? The end of score 0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:59.720 was fifty four to twenty four. Got our ass kicked, 0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:01.360 and then went back to Tyrod. 0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:03.520 Then then went back I think went back to Tyroda. 0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:10.160 I had to. That's that's a tough when you're when 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:14.719 you're pulling quarterbacks in the middle of seasons. It's hard 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.560 to pull a quarterback because what's the psych he's gonna 0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:18.560 go when you go back to him, and Tyrone wasn't 0:57:18.600 --> 0:57:22.560 bad player as well. I like Tyr. I always liked Tyrod. 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:25.320 I love Tyron. I don't know, he always got a 0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:29.120 bad he always got a bad like, like, what's his name? 0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:32.960 Herbert became the guy after they punctured along Josh Allen here, 0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:37.080 like he's always been the guy before that. Good luck, Chuck, 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.480 I find your quarterback. You might you just get Tyrod 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:42.400 in there? What what's his name? Uh? 0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:46.560 Daniel Jones like why why why would I start him 0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:47.160 over a Tyrod? 0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:50.480 I'm just because he just paid him or something. Before that, 0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:56.479 Jones was like, he is so regular. Yeah, it's tough. 0:57:56.760 --> 0:57:59.440 I can't defend it. I don't want to defend it. 0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.160 But the elephant in the room leading up to this 0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.000 game the weather, Yeah it was. 0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:06.640 It was ugly. 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:09.800 It was snow. Team point seven inches of snow didn't 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.760 stop the entire game. Nine inches during the game. 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:18.320 Nine inches as buffet is crazy. I said, boys, let 0:58:18.360 --> 0:58:21.840 me get the rock. I got you. You said that 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.760 pre game, Yeah, get the rock in front of the 0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:26.040 whole team, the pregame team. 0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:29.800 Where is that to the offense of boys, let me 0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:30.400 get the rock. 0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:33.240 It was a cool game. The cool thing about the snow. 0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:35.480 What people don't understand is that I love it so 0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:39.000 much because when I get tackled, it's like fall on pillows. 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.280 Yeah, the big fat dudes hit me. It don't hurt. 0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:44.120 Think about that hurt and they can't get attraction. But 0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:46.720 I can sign me up. It's an advent. 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:49.840 I always played well on the snow as well as 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:52.840 a house to punt in Chicago in the snow. Did 0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:56.480 you did you play any like like college games and so, yeah, 0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:57.480 Northern Illinois. 0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:00.440 I went to schooling in Ohio, Kent State. Knew. I 0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:03.000 knew that because that's where dream was. But we didn't play, 0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:05.400 you know, usually got to play deep into the season 0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:07.160 to get the we were done. 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:11.600 So you play quarterback too, right, Yeah, you can throw 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:16.280 that thing kind of not really, So what top quarterback was? 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:18.440 I was like a running quarter I mean I ran 0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:20.480 for like fifteen hundred yards at three for like nineteen 0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:21.640 hundred yards my senior year. 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:25.920 I could run it. It was me and Eugene. It 0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.000 was me and Eugene did like we had a little 0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:29.400 read in there and then we had a little play 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:32.320 actions spread. We had like a West Coast spread offense 0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:37.080 with Doug Martin who had Doug Marton. Yeah, he had 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:40.400 uh Matt Ryan at BC, so we used to watch 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.800 it like the years before. But yeah, I have to 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:45.880 take off and run that. Let's know how smart it is. 0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:46.920 So you play quarterback? 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:51.040 Okay, okay, yeah that I could have had more yards. 0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:53.680 They gave all these other guys my carries. Why do 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:54.720 you want thirty two carries? 0:59:55.000 --> 1:00:00.520 Thirty two that's your career high. Yeah, but look you 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:02.680 don't feel it though. You see what I'm saying. You 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:06.280 don't hate me hard. Yeah. Yeah, it's like you're gonna 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:07.120 slow because of the weather. 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:08.919 It's like when you drive, you ain't gonna gonna slow, 1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:11.480 and then when you slam me, we're falling on some 1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:13.760 snow man, and you're sliding. 1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:15.240 The only thing about this game it was it was 1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:17.200 a lot colder than the game I had in Philadelphia. 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:21.720 So in between the TV timeouts or like, let's take 1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:25.320 it the first down, if I round the bounds, I'm 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:27.040 taking the first playoff. 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:29.360 I'm going to the heater to put my hands in there, 1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:32.120 and then second thing, I'm coming back. This game was 1:00:32.160 --> 1:00:35.680 cold as hell, and sometimes the snow it's not as cold, 1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:38.080 but this is like Buffalo is a whole different beast 1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:41.240 because like the snow. Usually it's probably like in the 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:45.320 low thirties, high twenties, you get your cold games when 1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:47.840 it's fucking clear and there's you know what I mean, 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:51.800 it's like freezing the hands. You gotta keep the hands 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:53.520 and feet. That's everything else will be all right. 1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:56.000 Speaking of hands, that catch you having the Super Bowl 1:00:57.080 --> 1:01:00.640 that was badass, Bro's that's that's concentration. 1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:03.919 Yeah, I was just hoping. I ran a shitty route. 1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:06.200 We were tired. It was like our ninetieth play, and 1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:08.560 we play a lot of plays that game, and like 1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:10.720 I had a middle read and I knew Tom was 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:12.160 gonna come to me because we were hitting it all 1:01:12.200 --> 1:01:15.720 week in practice, and that's usually it goes. You hit 1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:18.480 him practice and we gotta go to it. We gotta 1:01:18.560 --> 1:01:20.200 go to it. And I was routing. I was running 1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:21.920 it good on the route, but I was tired. I 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:26.440 banana my route. And the worst thing you see in 1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:31.680 a split safety man middle read is a dB that 1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:35.000 turns his eye back to the ball. He usually gonna 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.120 pick because that's a twenty two yard throw, you know 1:01:37.120 --> 1:01:38.520 what I mean, where they're gonna put it on a 1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:40.960 line when he tired, You're like, fuck, I'm sitting there. 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:43.440 So I put the brake on and I dove in 1:01:43.640 --> 1:01:46.640 there just to try to knock it out. And one 1:01:46.720 --> 1:01:48.800 thing led to another, and I just that was my 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.400 number one thing. Just found it. Don't let it get picked, 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:54.520 you know, just do anything. And then it it came. 1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:56.560 I think it has to do with I did a 1:01:56.600 --> 1:01:59.280 lot of tennis ball drills so to have like read 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:01.480 for my right green with my left and like you 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:03.120 have to throw it over the shoulder, and I do 1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:05.280 it like every day, just the one with my eyes 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:07.920 for practice, you know, or I wouldn't focus. I got 1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:10.160 really bad add so I always had to do things 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:12.800 in order to keep me busy. So it'd always come 1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:15.320 up with these crazy drills before work. And I think 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:17.920 probably had something to do with that, right, Like, you 1:02:18.000 --> 1:02:21.080 can't like, fucking it's great, you can't claim that catch. 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:24.000 I didn't. I didn't watch the game until so I 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.600 landed and it was the square half time? Was it 1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:28.600 twenty eight or twenty one three? 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:32.120 Right, something like that, three and a half. And then 1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:35.440 I said, Yo, the Patriot's gonna come back when this game. 1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:38.800 I'm telling you, bro, I'm telling you, and that's. 1:02:38.640 --> 1:02:39.160 What y'all did. 1:02:39.680 --> 1:02:42.040 It was nuts because say I play all twice a year, 1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:45.280 so I know that ain't nothing. If y'all don't put 1:02:45.280 --> 1:02:46.440 them away, they gonna win. 1:02:47.320 --> 1:02:47.520 Yeah. 1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:50.920 Not the coaching, you know, you know the number wasn't it, 1:02:51.920 --> 1:02:55.400 But a lot of things always you know, the defense 1:02:55.440 --> 1:02:56.560 always made a big play. 1:02:57.320 --> 1:02:59.720 You know that there was always something we always had 1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:03.720 like a crazy like special teams play that, Like there 1:03:03.800 --> 1:03:05.920 was always someone that made a play. Anyone who had 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:07.120 to make a play made a play. 1:03:07.920 --> 1:03:10.320 Maybe I'm like this because I played the Patriots so much. 1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:12.480 I remember me and Rex Ryan like if they don't 1:03:12.480 --> 1:03:14.520 have time, Brady not the same team. Like even on 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:17.520 doing this, I never was like nervous to play off. 1:03:17.560 --> 1:03:19.240 There's some teams I never was nervous to play, but 1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:21.600 just like, oh we gotta play them this week. All right, 1:03:21.680 --> 1:03:23.920 let me let's get together. We're like the Patrick have 1:03:24.000 --> 1:03:27.560 two three good players on defense, right, Like like Jamie 1:03:27.880 --> 1:03:29.760 they had a fifty four. 1:03:31.160 --> 1:03:33.680 Tower was good, but you always had you had role 1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:35.920 guys like Nikovich that knew how to set like they 1:03:36.000 --> 1:03:39.680 did their job. They would set their edge and like 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:41.959 you couldn't run. He did his job. You wouldn't past 1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:45.160 and then you have on He was just okay, we 1:03:45.200 --> 1:03:50.160 had fifty six sacks. He was okay, I ain't gonna act, 1:03:50.320 --> 1:03:53.200 you know, like on tape. We ain't trying to where's 1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:55.840 fifty at fifty? Right? Yeah, yeah, we're not worry about 1:03:55.840 --> 1:03:56.960 where where fifty's at. 1:03:57.280 --> 1:03:58.640 Certain players they had on their it was like they 1:03:58.680 --> 1:04:02.440 was okay, but but they they'd let you go up 1:04:02.440 --> 1:04:03.200 and down the field. 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:05.240 With yards, but in the red zone they cracked down. 1:04:05.880 --> 1:04:07.800 That's one thing I will say then, but don't break 1:04:07.800 --> 1:04:09.920 who want them to throw an interception? Let them, let 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:12.360 them beat themselves. But then tighten it up in the. 1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:16.080 Red because we get three points, y'all gonna get seven. 1:04:16.320 --> 1:04:19.240 That shit starts tiling up. Or you're gonna make a mistake. 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:23.280 Yeah that's I mean, that's that's literally what was coached. 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:29.040 Let them make a mistake. I just just play fundamental football. 1:04:30.000 --> 1:04:33.240 I guess. I mean we both see it different ways. Yeah, 1:04:33.920 --> 1:04:37.720 I think we see it the same. He's so Frank 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:40.440 gorege legacy or longevity. What do we got here? 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:43.520 This was a battle between I mean you could go 1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:46.120 battle between the backs because they were passing much in 1:04:46.160 --> 1:04:48.040 the snow. What was What was that like going up 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:48.720 against Frank Gore? 1:04:48.840 --> 1:04:50.880 Did you had to like pre pregame do you you 1:04:51.400 --> 1:04:54.320 ever say like who's the other? And in back you're like, 1:04:54.520 --> 1:04:56.560 let me let me so Frank one of my best friends. 1:04:57.640 --> 1:04:58.400 I thought, Frank. 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:03.160 Week, that's my guy. He kind of like helped me 1:05:03.200 --> 1:05:06.720 to be better professional. You know, I would be training 1:05:06.760 --> 1:05:09.880 and stuff like that. We've trained together in Miami and uh, 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:12.200 he had a name, It's Frank Gore. By the way, 1:05:12.640 --> 1:05:16.000 we go back so far because in college, my brother 1:05:16.080 --> 1:05:20.320 played for the Niners and uh and Frank Gore's I 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:21.520 think it was his agent. 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:24.640 Or that's your brother. Who's your real name? Loron McCoy 1:05:24.720 --> 1:05:26.920 he played years ago, you know, players ago. I was 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:29.400 a Niners fan. But he he ain't do nothing like 1:05:29.480 --> 1:05:31.640 that for you to know. You don't know. 1:05:31.720 --> 1:05:34.880 He played for Arizona the Niners in the Texans. But anyway, 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:37.040 we went to Frank gors house and I was like, 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:38.840 Dahul come out of college. He's like, yeah, man, get 1:05:38.880 --> 1:05:40.560 to get out of there, go to the NFL. That's 1:05:40.560 --> 1:05:42.240 how I met him. So fast forward we get to 1:05:42.280 --> 1:05:45.280 the league. He's trained in Miami. His agent Drogs House, 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:47.840 my age Draws house. So we start training together and 1:05:48.040 --> 1:05:51.400 I was like, man, my feet were bearing his ship. 1:05:51.680 --> 1:05:51.800 Right. 1:05:51.880 --> 1:05:54.160 I'm still younger though, but he was helping me get 1:05:54.200 --> 1:05:56.040 better and better and better because I didn't really train 1:05:56.800 --> 1:05:59.960 super hard after I arrived. 1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:02.440 It's just easy, like I ain't let no weights. 1:06:03.440 --> 1:06:06.040 But I would be in Vegas partying and Frankibe training 1:06:06.520 --> 1:06:07.840 where you at, man, get your ass here. 1:06:08.360 --> 1:06:13.200 I'm think like, damn shout, I'm staying Vegas, go work out. 1:06:13.600 --> 1:06:15.240 And I would go work out because Frank would call me. 1:06:15.280 --> 1:06:17.320 He was older than me, and he kind of helped 1:06:17.320 --> 1:06:19.480 me to be a professional man, you know, And that's 1:06:19.520 --> 1:06:22.040 how we became real real friends. So so so I 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:25.320 never really like now there's other backs that I go 1:06:25.400 --> 1:06:28.200 to defense a y'all listen, they need to shut him down. 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:32.120 Oh he's put me on the spot. He did just 1:06:32.200 --> 1:06:32.440 say that. 1:06:32.560 --> 1:06:37.280 I mean, okay, one time is DeMarco Murray and at 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:39.840 the time, this is the year that he had a 1:06:39.880 --> 1:06:42.160 really good year. Now we wasn't close as far as 1:06:42.240 --> 1:06:44.920 bringing backs, but he's had a really good year. I 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:47.560 was like, I finished third, I think he was first, 1:06:48.360 --> 1:06:50.880 And uh, I said, hey, man, I'm trying to get 1:06:50.880 --> 1:06:54.640 this title again, right, rushing title. Make sure him get 1:06:54.680 --> 1:06:56.520 on yards, this and that, y'all shut him down. I 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:58.680 got some money for your boys, you know. And guess 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:01.200 what happened. They ain't shut him down. They ain't shut 1:07:01.240 --> 1:07:01.640 shit it down. 1:07:01.640 --> 1:07:05.000 He got busy and they beat us. And the last 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:08.680 one was Adrian Pearson. Just because the pregame speeches defense. 1:07:10.320 --> 1:07:12.400 See this is way different from that that Patriots. Right, 1:07:12.440 --> 1:07:13.840 I'm thinking about yards and you know what I mean? 1:07:14.040 --> 1:07:15.000 They thinking about wins. 1:07:16.640 --> 1:07:19.040 I never heard anything. Yo, I have time. I'll be 1:07:19.120 --> 1:07:22.320 checking my stats. Damn he got that many yards. Damn 1:07:22.800 --> 1:07:25.800 you know what I'm saying, Doing this passive passion to 1:07:25.840 --> 1:07:29.720 the defense. You y'are gonna play what like? You know 1:07:29.720 --> 1:07:30.040 what I mean? 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:33.960 Adrian Pierce is another one, though, that's because he was 1:07:34.040 --> 1:07:34.479 so great. 1:07:35.480 --> 1:07:38.200 He's my favorite. He's one of my favorit running back violent. 1:07:38.440 --> 1:07:40.400 I think he's the best. I think he's the best 1:07:40.440 --> 1:07:42.760 back of all time. Bro what Barry Sayers is. 1:07:43.080 --> 1:07:49.000 But he's ap is the most complete like back's big, strong, 1:07:49.040 --> 1:07:51.200 can shakey when you pass you. He can't really catch 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:53.720 or block, But all the other sudden that don't matter. 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:57.440 The other stuff is back traditional just you know, God gifted. 1:07:58.320 --> 1:07:59.760 That's one. That's the only guy. I can say. 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:03.480 Him and Barry they're probably better than me. All the 1:08:03.520 --> 1:08:05.760 mother dudes on how many yards they got, stats, they got, teams, 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:10.440 they got Dan Dang. You know it's my opinion. 1:08:11.880 --> 1:08:14.000 Hey, I mean, you've seen a lot of football and 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:15.360 you've ran a lot of yards in football. 1:08:15.440 --> 1:08:18.280 Because I don't be on these great teams, like come on, bro, 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:20.720 like Charle Davis. I think he was good, but he ain't. 1:08:21.000 --> 1:08:23.400 I mean, come on, Edgrian and James another one. They 1:08:23.439 --> 1:08:25.400 play on these great teams. If I told you to 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:28.519 make a games, who's your favorite? 1:08:28.600 --> 1:08:31.479 You like them? How we played them? Line? Watch this, 1:08:31.720 --> 1:08:34.080 who's your favorite team? As a kid? Like you notice team? 1:08:34.960 --> 1:08:37.400 So if I say, yo, give me your all time 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:43.559 Niners offense? Who Jo wont Hana is a quarterback? Jerry 1:08:44.240 --> 1:08:47.639 Jared and wide receivers. On the other side, you got 1:08:48.080 --> 1:08:50.560 Ricky Waters or you go with Frank gorson running. 1:08:50.320 --> 1:08:51.960 Back right, Brent Jones? 1:08:52.040 --> 1:08:55.640 It come on now, if I say, yo, give me, 1:08:57.160 --> 1:08:59.160 if I told you this, give me the all time 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:03.800 Holt's offense. Who you're gonna say Edge James are running back? 1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:05.519 It's kind of like Pro Bowl voting. 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:08.519 But hold, let's do it for a secondough, real quick, 1:09:08.640 --> 1:09:10.559 take some seconds. Edge James are running back. 1:09:11.240 --> 1:09:14.479 I don't know anyone else you do. Peyton Manning at quarterback. Oh, 1:09:14.520 --> 1:09:17.120 you're talking about I thought you're going to here. Reggie 1:09:17.160 --> 1:09:20.920 Reggie Wae at wide receiver, Marverin Harrison, marn Harrison. You 1:09:21.000 --> 1:09:22.720 know I was his team, right, That's the team he 1:09:22.800 --> 1:09:25.080 played on every year. That's a team. And then soon 1:09:25.160 --> 1:09:25.559 you leave. 1:09:26.479 --> 1:09:29.880 So when you leave as an edging, the backup is 1:09:29.920 --> 1:09:34.759 the same ship you do. Who Joseph Hauld died from LSU? 1:09:36.640 --> 1:09:38.760 Do you get what I'm saying. I'm gonna help you out. 1:09:39.680 --> 1:09:42.360 My biggest years where I played the most football at 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:46.880 was the Eagles. Since I've left, they finally had a 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:49.160 one thousand yeard rusher with Mile Sanders. 1:09:49.240 --> 1:09:50.880 Last year they got rid of him. I said, we 1:09:50.960 --> 1:09:53.200 can't have this guy coming close to numbers. 1:09:53.320 --> 1:09:55.640 That's not he's been there for like four years. He's 1:09:55.640 --> 1:09:57.040 been for four years. He had one thousand yards. 1:09:57.200 --> 1:09:57.559 It's good. 1:09:57.600 --> 1:10:00.439 He's a good player, though. Thousand like non Ndred thousand, 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:04.160 eleven hundred whatever, that's cool. The Bills, they still haven't 1:10:04.160 --> 1:10:06.160 had a thousand dard rusher. So my thing is, what 1:10:06.439 --> 1:10:08.719 is your real impact? If it's a good of a player, 1:10:09.920 --> 1:10:12.439 soon you leave the backup of the same thing. Na, 1:10:12.479 --> 1:10:13.400 how good are you really? 1:10:13.840 --> 1:10:16.760 Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, but what if 1:10:16.800 --> 1:10:20.360 they let's go what you what if the teams because 1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:23.799 they had such a dominant back, they were like running 1:10:23.880 --> 1:10:27.240 the ball. They had such the offense was built around 1:10:27.360 --> 1:10:30.720 the running back. Good, great, right, great question, And then 1:10:30.720 --> 1:10:33.880 all of a sudden they could just couldn't win the 1:10:33.920 --> 1:10:35.679 super Bowl. They couldn't get to the super Bowl. 1:10:35.720 --> 1:10:38.200 So they're like, fuck it, we're gonna We're getting rid 1:10:38.240 --> 1:10:41.240 of running back. We already had that insane running back. 1:10:41.280 --> 1:10:43.400 We want to we gotta we gotta evolve to what 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:46.000 everyone else is that Maybe that someone can say that 1:10:46.200 --> 1:10:48.800 sort of coats So I told you that. I don't 1:10:48.800 --> 1:10:51.200 know if you heard me. They had Peyton Manning. Yeah. 1:10:51.360 --> 1:10:53.920 So when we go into the game, who who do 1:10:53.920 --> 1:10:56.080 you think we trying to stop? You think be about 1:10:56.120 --> 1:10:58.519 to pack the line of scrimmage up to stop Zwen James? 1:10:58.560 --> 1:11:01.920 Are we gonna stop paymin in that passing game? 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:06.439 Yeah? Make him one dimensional? He stopped the run noways okay, 1:11:06.880 --> 1:11:08.880 all right, Well if you think that that's cool, I 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:09.560 just you got it. 1:11:10.360 --> 1:11:12.640 Everything comes off the run game, whether you have one 1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:14.360 or not, I mean depends on I mean, I hear that. 1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:16.240 But then like there's some things that we throw the ball. 1:11:16.280 --> 1:11:19.000 We just we're throwing the ball. I personally haven't had 1:11:19.040 --> 1:11:22.840 a lot of open boxes running the ball. 1:11:22.960 --> 1:11:24.800 No you didn't. But what I'm saying is if I 1:11:24.880 --> 1:11:28.080 had a Pagan, I'm damn sure you know what I'm saying. 1:11:28.439 --> 1:11:30.560 Yeah, but no one put No one put Eggar and 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:34.160 James in all time. Great, he's Hall of Famer. You 1:11:34.240 --> 1:11:36.240 talk about Hall of Fame backs, right the difen you 1:11:36.280 --> 1:11:38.479 want it? This you asked for so were going to 1:11:38.560 --> 1:11:39.840 some of these these Hall of fame. 1:11:39.720 --> 1:11:41.400 Running James Hall of Fame. 1:11:41.760 --> 1:11:43.439 He had a lot of yards though, didn't he He 1:11:43.520 --> 1:11:45.760 had a lot of carries too. See that's impressive though 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:48.000 a lot of probably was healthy too. That's the thing 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:50.120 about running backs. He had a lot of three hundred yards, 1:11:50.520 --> 1:11:54.120 three hundred carriers. I've only had one. That's impressive. 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:56.840 A lot of guys get hurt, and we're seeing it 1:11:56.880 --> 1:11:59.080 right now. Guys came running the ball, like what's the 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:01.400 number now, I don't know. They're saying every it's like 1:12:01.560 --> 1:12:05.760 three hundred and sixty snaps for running back. They're like, 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:08.559 if they play that or they have those carries, they're 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:12.360 like going to get hurt. That's what the analytics team is. Well, 1:12:12.840 --> 1:12:14.160 I don't know. So when you see a guy that 1:12:14.240 --> 1:12:17.000 can do it repetively, like that's why Frank Gore was 1:12:17.080 --> 1:12:20.360 crazy to me, Like that dude carried the ball so much. Longevity. 1:12:20.600 --> 1:12:22.200 Longevity is huge in running back. 1:12:22.240 --> 1:12:24.800 But there's nobody that blocks Burn and Frank Gore. There's 1:12:24.840 --> 1:12:28.800 nobody that plays in the between the tackles. Bro he 1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:32.680 got good eyes downhill and he's always leaning forward. I've 1:12:32.720 --> 1:12:33.880 never seen my better than him at that. 1:12:34.120 --> 1:12:36.479 Now can He makes the right read always, and he 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:39.200 knows how to manipulate blocks the double teams because they 1:12:39.200 --> 1:12:41.519 always had the double teams with them big boys out, 1:12:41.720 --> 1:12:44.160 you know, and he and you'll see a lot of 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:47.120 like really, like that's the difference between a pro back 1:12:47.160 --> 1:12:50.280 and a college back. College backs can get away with 1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:53.400 not making the right lead in the defense. Yeah, they 1:12:53.439 --> 1:12:56.120 can run through arm tackles and stuff. When you get 1:12:56.120 --> 1:12:58.840 to the league, it's like there's a track that you 1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:02.000 have to run because of how the blocking schemes are. 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:04.000 And I didn't know that until I got to the NFL, 1:13:04.040 --> 1:13:06.000 because I was like, this guy's gonna be hellogad we gotto. 1:13:06.479 --> 1:13:08.519 And then you see that he makes the cut, you know, 1:13:08.720 --> 1:13:12.120 three three steps to too early, and the guy sheds 1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:12.719 off the block. 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:14.760 And that's that's one of the young The hardest thing 1:13:14.880 --> 1:13:18.439 is damn patient, there's a whole minute, no more. 1:13:18.600 --> 1:13:21.320 Yeah, come off his heels. They always say, come off 1:13:21.360 --> 1:13:24.000 his ass. Pause. I always say, coach a pause, dude, 1:13:24.680 --> 1:13:26.240 I pause. A lot of the stuff coach be saying, 1:13:26.320 --> 1:13:32.120 coach saying, how how insane was it? That vinitary same 1:13:32.240 --> 1:13:34.960 vinitaria that won Super Bowls with the Patriots kicking and 1:13:35.720 --> 1:13:39.760 you know, snowstorms, they clear out the thing, they clear 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:42.320 it out, They cleared out the pathway for him to kick. 1:13:42.720 --> 1:13:44.439 Make it. He made it to go. Remember it was 1:13:44.560 --> 1:13:48.599 nerved in remember Kobe he they had the two point conversion, 1:13:48.680 --> 1:13:51.920 but there was a pick play, which it was oh yeah, 1:13:52.840 --> 1:13:55.280 that's right, that's right, yeah yeah, And then they went 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:57.120 back and it was like a forty three yard fucking 1:13:57.680 --> 1:14:00.679 extra point in a snow condition to go to overtime. 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:02.320 Yeah, that's a good point because he I mean I 1:14:02.439 --> 1:14:04.240 remember that. Yeah, and then he had a shot to 1:14:04.280 --> 1:14:06.720 win it and he and he missed it. He had 1:14:06.720 --> 1:14:09.479 the same kind of the hook that was like a 1:14:09.560 --> 1:14:10.559 boomerang that thing. 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:14.160 He yeah, he won that good. So we weren't surprised 1:14:14.200 --> 1:14:20.160 about him, you know, not completing military Oh oh oh, yeah, 1:14:20.479 --> 1:14:21.400 he had a chance of winning too. 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:22.160 That's true. 1:14:22.439 --> 1:14:27.320 He's a good backup quarterback. Let me think he's won games. 1:14:28.160 --> 1:14:29.479 Oh you played with him the Patriots too. 1:14:29.920 --> 1:14:33.759 Yeah. I like Jakoby, but he's a good backup quarterback 1:14:33.800 --> 1:14:37.360 and he's tough. I beat the Patriots one time. Tom 1:14:37.400 --> 1:14:39.519 won a quarterback. You know it was Jacoby were set 1:14:40.160 --> 1:14:44.000 talk to your boy. I remember that, but he was 1:14:44.080 --> 1:14:46.960 gone awful, but they whatever from I would never beat 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:47.479 the Patriots. 1:14:48.040 --> 1:14:49.760 I think you got to. You got one in Kansas City, 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:51.519 won in Buffalo Patriots. 1:14:51.880 --> 1:14:55.000 I was thinking about the h I was thinking about 1:14:55.000 --> 1:14:59.559 the suspension year twenty sixteen. Walk us through your game 1:14:59.640 --> 1:15:05.280 winning run. It's a play call. Yeah, I can't remember 1:15:06.000 --> 1:15:09.519 what was the gap scheme was the zone? It looked 1:15:09.560 --> 1:15:10.280 like it was a lot of down. 1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:12.519 I want to say a power because I think Richie 1:15:12.560 --> 1:15:15.879 Ower Cognito blocked Ritchie and Cognito. 1:15:16.000 --> 1:15:19.000 I love him. I love Richie. I used to train 1:15:19.040 --> 1:15:22.519 with him out here. This might be this double block 1:15:22.760 --> 1:15:23.719 web under center. 1:15:24.160 --> 1:15:35.160 Yep, yeah, look at Richie right there on the second levels. 1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:32.160 Trying to night good night. 1:15:32.760 --> 1:15:35.080 So hey, how about at the end of this I 1:15:35.080 --> 1:15:39.120 couldn't breathe. They everybody tapped me into the snow. I'm thinking, like, yo, bro, 1:15:39.240 --> 1:15:40.880 it's the snow down here, and it was it was 1:15:41.000 --> 1:15:44.639 high yeah to be there, but no, it's like under 1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:45.400 a dog pile. 1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:48.519 There's always one kid that is. 1:15:48.520 --> 1:15:52.400 Like bro, I was painting, like yo, yo, I can't 1:15:52.520 --> 1:15:56.479 breathe down here, like yo, claustrophobic, fat line and three 1:15:57.600 --> 1:16:01.040 and they're celebrated so they think everything's fun and I'm 1:16:01.040 --> 1:16:02.000 probably like two of weight. 1:16:01.880 --> 1:16:05.639 At the time. That's my favorite dog right now? Does 1:16:05.680 --> 1:16:06.439 he shed a lot or know? 1:16:06.760 --> 1:16:11.200 Zero really is an Australian labbordod though, that's oh wow, 1:16:11.360 --> 1:16:12.200 he doesn't shed at all. 1:16:12.760 --> 1:16:17.439 Buddy, Hello, Joe Dirt Mullet. So the aftermath of this game, 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:21.160 after you're insane, walk off, you guys just straight mudding. 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:25.000 That's mudd and football right there. And Jady has proven 1:16:25.080 --> 1:16:26.880 to be a mudd and running back because you have 1:16:26.960 --> 1:16:28.799 such I feel like it's because you have great balance, 1:16:29.320 --> 1:16:32.080 you keep your you don't ever get outside your base. 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:34.240 You know a lot of that's that's what a lot 1:16:34.280 --> 1:16:36.479 of guy. That's how you get hurt. And that's be 1:16:36.640 --> 1:16:39.040 how you slip. Usually when guys are slipping there outside 1:16:39.080 --> 1:16:41.479 of the base. You have such a wide frame, you 1:16:41.560 --> 1:16:44.360 have white feet. You always cut off the inside part 1:16:44.400 --> 1:16:46.960 of your foot, You know what I mean? Guys try 1:16:47.000 --> 1:16:49.640 to cheat that. You should be a coach. You know 1:16:50.000 --> 1:16:52.040 that was pretty good. But it's true, is it not. 1:16:52.280 --> 1:16:54.280 I don't know it is. I never thought about that. 1:16:54.280 --> 1:16:57.160 I just be doing that ship. So it's how you're built. 1:16:57.280 --> 1:16:59.640 It's the inside of my plone. You want to you 1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:04.200 always off the inside part of your outside foot. So 1:17:04.360 --> 1:17:06.640 like whenever we used to have the first day of 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:11.080 rain practice, we'd always practice outside on the grass. Guys, 1:17:11.320 --> 1:17:14.599 you can you can cheat like regular grass or turf. 1:17:14.760 --> 1:17:17.360 You can't cheat a wet surface. And it's because you're 1:17:17.400 --> 1:17:20.040 cutting weird or you're cutting different. You cut off the 1:17:20.080 --> 1:17:23.080 inside this part instead of just learn something today. 1:17:23.160 --> 1:17:25.000 First of all, you must have learned that from a 1:17:25.040 --> 1:17:27.360 good coach or great I don't know. Maybe the best 1:17:27.400 --> 1:17:28.000 coach of all time. 1:17:28.520 --> 1:17:31.960 I don't know this guy, this guy Bill Belichick versus 1:17:32.000 --> 1:17:35.920 Andy Reid. Wow, what what's Bill Belichick versus Andy Reid? 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:38.519 Where's that? What's the stats? 1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:42.080 Bill's got him six and three all time six and three. 1:17:42.479 --> 1:17:45.040 That's it, three rings, as we alluded to. 1:17:45.320 --> 1:17:49.120 But this is a bit like, come on, man, it 1:17:52.600 --> 1:17:56.559 is what it is. Anybody had Tommy winning championship. That's true, 1:17:59.120 --> 1:17:59.639 he drafted. 1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:04.000 I don't like to do this with with Bill because 1:18:04.160 --> 1:18:05.760 I respect him, so I ain't gonna do that. But 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:07.400 he can't touch Andy Reid. 1:18:07.960 --> 1:18:08.439 He can't. 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.000 You drop them dudes to any different team, and he's 1:18:11.000 --> 1:18:12.000 gonna out do him. 1:18:12.200 --> 1:18:12.560 You know that. 1:18:13.320 --> 1:18:16.080 Tom Brady freaking shooting threes, jump shots. He out the league, 1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:19.800 he coming back. You put Andy wherever Bill's at, he 1:18:19.880 --> 1:18:20.240 gonna win. 1:18:20.640 --> 1:18:22.000 I think it was in the same division. He will 1:18:22.080 --> 1:18:26.320 scrape him. You know it. With Patrick Mahomes right now, 1:18:26.600 --> 1:18:28.880 it would be very tough. I'm saying, no, any team. 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:30.719 I don't think that. Sole Master. 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:33.320 Just you think that if right now today Andy Reid 1:18:33.400 --> 1:18:35.519 was on the Patriots, would it be better or would 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:36.240 it be like they are now? 1:18:36.800 --> 1:18:39.519 They'd be built differently, or would they be better or. 1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:42.439 They like the same like they are now? Whatever, better records? 1:18:42.439 --> 1:18:45.000 How about that, let's just same teams and all same players, 1:18:45.360 --> 1:18:46.000 same everything. 1:18:46.800 --> 1:18:50.800 What you think? Remember we were talking about this and 1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:53.720 we talked about time management. We talked about that time 1:18:53.800 --> 1:18:55.880 management stuff. You keep saying that he only had like 1:18:55.920 --> 1:18:56.439 a year or two. 1:18:56.479 --> 1:18:58.040 He has bad time manage and you keep saying that 1:18:58.240 --> 1:19:02.240 he had some really came out last week last we win. 1:19:03.120 --> 1:19:07.200 Didn't he do something last week? Let's make this up? No, 1:19:08.000 --> 1:19:10.680 I put it. I put it in my notes. I 1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:13.760 was watching. I was literally watching, was like, this is 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:16.759 exactly what I was saying. The shady he had something, 1:19:17.520 --> 1:19:20.599 he's smart guards. They're both very good. But I mean 1:19:21.760 --> 1:19:25.400 you had to still kiss the rings. Yeah, I mean, 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:31.320 but like you had the equalizer, And we're going to 1:19:31.360 --> 1:19:36.360 see with an equalizing type quarterback, what Andy Reid can 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:39.559 pump out about the watch. We're about to see if 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:41.639 they don't get six one thing you said earlier though, 1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:44.000 if they don't get six, because it's hard to do 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:47.479 it and continually, like he's got one generation of team 1:19:48.160 --> 1:19:51.280 to continually do it with different generations. That's what we're 1:19:51.280 --> 1:19:53.799 going to see one thing you said that was false. 1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:57.840 You said that the Patriots, you know, I was hard 1:19:57.880 --> 1:20:00.200 to win because they had the money issues, have a 1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:03.240 lot of money issues. Yeah, y'all never paid players that 1:20:03.320 --> 1:20:04.680 are true value. 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:06.599 With the point. Wow, I'll give you that. They don't 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:10.200 pay their homegrown but they they they had. 1:20:10.160 --> 1:20:13.800 The number one excuse when you when you when when 1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:15.439 I would go to Bill and I would say, hey, 1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:17.280 I want this, he would say. 1:20:17.439 --> 1:20:18.760 How am I gonna give you that? When I give 1:20:18.840 --> 1:20:21.639 Brady this? You know what I mean? 1:20:22.479 --> 1:20:23.720 Because he never made me at the top of the 1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:26.719 market like he's supposed to. Brady, So when your quarterback 1:20:26.800 --> 1:20:28.519 is not making the maximum like he's posted, and then 1:20:28.520 --> 1:20:30.439 everyone's got a fall in line, not even not even 1:20:30.479 --> 1:20:33.280 fall line park, but there's more money to Yeah, that's so. 1:20:33.479 --> 1:20:35.240 But if if you look at how a team's built, 1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:39.760 we always had the more. There's like usually teams are 1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:41.880 built with like three Back when we were playing, there'd 1:20:41.880 --> 1:20:45.320 be like three dudes making upper echelon money, like big money, 1:20:45.920 --> 1:20:51.639 and then there'd be like five dudes making that middle tier, 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:54.000 and then everyone else would be in that minimum. Ours 1:20:54.040 --> 1:20:56.599 would be like Tom would be barely making that. We'd 1:20:56.680 --> 1:20:59.639 have in that second thing, we'd have probably like eleven 1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:01.800 of those types of guys if you like look at 1:21:01.840 --> 1:21:05.040 it like per like that's how the team was always built. 1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:06.880 I'm saying that when other teams, when a quarterback gets 1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:09.000 that big lump sum, it's hard to get eleven guys 1:21:09.040 --> 1:21:12.000 even do that, it's hard to get That's so, yeah, 1:21:12.040 --> 1:21:14.400 didn't really have a lot of money issues because your 1:21:14.479 --> 1:21:15.880 top dude wasn't taking the money. 1:21:16.160 --> 1:21:19.080 Yeah, but they were also go look at what they 1:21:19.120 --> 1:21:22.280 were doing with like the Tom never played in until 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:24.880 like the back end of his contract. He always renegotiate. 1:21:25.280 --> 1:21:27.240 But what I get that part. So then like it 1:21:27.360 --> 1:21:30.920 didn't look but like old Brady, how much did he make. 1:21:31.640 --> 1:21:33.800 I'm not trying to count no one's chess joker made 1:21:33.800 --> 1:21:36.240 a lot of money. I mean you're talking about his career. Yeah, 1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:37.599 he's played for twenty some seasons. 1:21:37.680 --> 1:21:41.760 Yeah, but dudes like like Eli dudes, like Big Ben 1:21:41.880 --> 1:21:45.160 dudes like paying like them dudes is cashing out at 1:21:45.200 --> 1:21:45.760 the top of the mine. 1:21:45.800 --> 1:21:48.960 Will get Sarry Rodgers. I will give you this argument, 1:21:49.000 --> 1:21:51.600 they didn't pay very well. You can't give me this 1:21:51.720 --> 1:21:52.120 is what it is. 1:21:52.280 --> 1:21:54.160 So my thing is I'm saying that when you talking 1:21:54.160 --> 1:21:56.880 about having a rosters get broken in the NFL because 1:21:56.880 --> 1:21:58.880 of money, quarterback takes all the money. 1:21:58.960 --> 1:22:03.559 I take that money. I had played for the memory, 1:22:03.640 --> 1:22:08.599 the money I played for the memories, pay for the memories, 1:22:09.280 --> 1:22:11.800 had a lot of memories. Was getting pad the top 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:13.519 of the market. So like he's taking the money, you 1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:16.479 can't build on that team. I don't matter. All I'm 1:22:16.479 --> 1:22:16.800 saying is. 1:22:16.880 --> 1:22:21.360 Belichick is a good coach. I guess and Aaron or 1:22:22.240 --> 1:22:27.920 Andy I ricked out of Indy you should. I mean 1:22:28.040 --> 1:22:30.800 every time we played him though we went into Kansas City, 1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:32.880 we were the old team, they were the young good 1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:34.439 in time twelve twelve? 1:22:35.680 --> 1:22:39.599 What else we got? The new rule added to this game. 1:22:39.760 --> 1:22:42.479 Only players on the field can clear the spot for 1:22:42.560 --> 1:22:47.400 the kicker because pre field goal kick. In this Vinetaria 1:22:47.439 --> 1:22:49.240 had the whole They had the whole team. The Bills 1:22:49.320 --> 1:22:52.240 had the whole team out there. That's in Indy, Indy 1:22:52.560 --> 1:22:54.640 did that's true? That is true that everybody digging up 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:55.000 the snow. 1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:57.200 And now that said, the only guys on the field 1:22:57.200 --> 1:22:58.879 can help. Can't have the whole bench. 1:22:58.720 --> 1:23:03.160 Over there, So we scrimmage in the Patriots, I forget 1:23:03.200 --> 1:23:05.160 what year it is. I was with the Eagles, remember that, 1:23:05.280 --> 1:23:07.400 And now we were beating you all real good in practice. 1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:09.240 That was in the game, y'all beat the s off 1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:12.400 as though. That was in thirteen thirteen. And I remember. 1:23:14.160 --> 1:23:17.560 You had a bad practicing bills after practice over he 1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:23.439 go to the hell. I'm like, damn, they ain't punished 1:23:23.479 --> 1:23:25.600 for not having a good practice. And it went to 1:23:25.600 --> 1:23:27.120 the hill. It was run up and down the hill. Yeah, 1:23:27.120 --> 1:23:29.720 I'm there. That was That was like high school shit. 1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:34.840 That was crazy. That wasn't punishment. That was just us. 1:23:35.160 --> 1:23:38.440 Oh we ran always after especially if we were joint practices, 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:40.880 they would always run us. So they show the other 1:23:41.000 --> 1:23:44.240 coaching staff, you know, like hey, that's we get our pictures. 1:23:44.400 --> 1:23:48.880 This is our guys. We're getting right now. You know 1:23:48.960 --> 1:23:51.040 how many games we won where we were just in 1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:53.360 better shape than guys because guys at the end of 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:57.160 the game like are off. Like we never had any 1:23:57.240 --> 1:23:59.920 big name offensive line guys that everyone always says, right, 1:24:00.640 --> 1:24:02.840 but our guys were rad smart. They were always in 1:24:03.080 --> 1:24:08.120 insane condition, and they played well together. And you'd play 1:24:08.200 --> 1:24:13.400 these like really explosive defensive lines and like we would 1:24:13.600 --> 1:24:16.479 slow them down a by going Noah, huddle, let them 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:19.080 run trap a person up group in there, and b 1:24:19.320 --> 1:24:21.760 we just run the ball down the throat and then 1:24:22.040 --> 1:24:25.080 they would break by the end because teams aren't. We're 1:24:25.160 --> 1:24:27.519 never like even close to as good as shape. I 1:24:27.560 --> 1:24:27.840 agree with that. 1:24:27.880 --> 1:24:29.640 You guys are really disciplined. That's one thing I do 1:24:29.720 --> 1:24:32.680 give him credit. He was a disciplined coach man. The 1:24:32.760 --> 1:24:36.160 players was all smart. You guys in beach'll sales. That's 1:24:36.240 --> 1:24:39.080 that's what the Patriott is, right. I don't know what's 1:24:39.080 --> 1:24:39.760 the Patriot way. 1:24:40.720 --> 1:24:43.479 I don't know. I thought the Patriot was just having 1:24:43.520 --> 1:24:47.720 Tom Brady. I thought it was because they don't see 1:24:47.720 --> 1:24:52.920 that shit no more, no more. They ready ain't ready. 1:24:53.520 --> 1:24:56.960 But Tom was able to tart new story. Is this 1:24:57.080 --> 1:24:59.400 the best snow game of all time? 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:02.280 No? 1:25:03.080 --> 1:25:05.240 What was you had another? You had another good one? 1:25:05.320 --> 1:25:07.759 I had twenty yards in the snow before. But before 1:25:07.800 --> 1:25:10.960 this or after before? What was you were with Philly? 1:25:12.200 --> 1:25:15.200 Who did you play Detroit? Detroit? 1:25:15.240 --> 1:25:17.680 You never seen that game? That mega Tronie always show 1:25:17.680 --> 1:25:18.840 he has all the snow on his helmet. 1:25:19.760 --> 1:25:21.920 That's that's the game. I think that's the game. This 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:25.320 is two hundred and then what was this one forty 1:25:25.439 --> 1:25:26.759 do you have one? Forty one fifty? 1:25:28.200 --> 1:25:28.880 I believe so? 1:25:28.920 --> 1:25:33.200 Are you the the greatest snow running back of all time? Sorry, 1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:36.679 I don't know. I mean, I don't know other facts 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:37.599 that's playing this thow. 1:25:37.960 --> 1:25:39.680 You know I'm gonna say yes. 1:25:40.240 --> 1:25:42.479 I'm saying yes. It's not a bad answer. It's not 1:25:42.520 --> 1:25:45.519 a bad answer. Now, guys, I don't know. I'm a 1:25:45.560 --> 1:25:50.920 humble guy. Man'm humble. Come on, now, you know you 1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:53.840 just turned into a Patriot right now? That's right? Is 1:25:53.920 --> 1:25:56.160 this having to be on the team? You know? Just 1:25:57.560 --> 1:26:00.599 thank thank you, Patriot. It's a got the Patriots. 1:26:00.640 --> 1:26:04.280 I did to do it right, Jack, Nah, we're we're 1:26:04.360 --> 1:26:04.920 pretty clean. 1:26:05.080 --> 1:26:05.439 But uh. 1:26:06.000 --> 1:26:08.120 I was looking through a couple other great snow games 1:26:08.240 --> 1:26:14.280 at the Rule game, the leon Let game on Thanksgiving 1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:19.360 Day in ninety three, the Snowplow Game seventy two Patriots 1:26:19.439 --> 1:26:23.519 Dolphins speaking of clearing spots for the kickers. Just to 1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:27.519 dame a few one other, one other question. I'd be 1:26:27.560 --> 1:26:30.960 remissed if I didn't get to ask Shady. I got 1:26:31.040 --> 1:26:34.000 a twenty twenty one interview here when asked if Jules 1:26:34.080 --> 1:26:36.840 is a Hall of Famer, he said, nah, come on, man, 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:39.400 do you do you stay by that point. 1:26:39.680 --> 1:26:42.280 Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean I think I told 1:26:42.320 --> 1:26:43.360 you I think he was a hell of a player. 1:26:43.560 --> 1:26:45.439 See, this is what I don't like about these interviews though, 1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:47.400 right because I'm I'm I told you, I'm. 1:26:47.280 --> 1:26:49.640 Real, raw and just authentic. He's unfiltered. 1:26:49.840 --> 1:26:52.719 So the thing is, they asked me this whole question, 1:26:53.960 --> 1:26:55.160 and it was it was it was because it was 1:26:55.240 --> 1:26:57.240 thinking of the media about him in the Hall. 1:26:57.160 --> 1:26:58.760 Of Fame, and I was like, damn, I was like, 1:26:58.800 --> 1:27:01.000 he was nice and ship he was off. He was nice. 1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:02.760 I said, I don't know about hall of Fame. Like 1:27:03.000 --> 1:27:05.160 hall of fame, he got real own ones, you got 1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:07.920 all these rainy all these all these big ass numbers. 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:10.360 They didn't talk about that. The only thing they said 1:27:10.360 --> 1:27:12.000 is Shady said it that you're not a Hall of Famer. 1:27:12.720 --> 1:27:16.600 And I remember Brandon was like, I said, damn, you 1:27:16.680 --> 1:27:18.360 think you was ain't gonna fuck with me or excuse me, 1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:20.320 you think you're gonna be cool with me because I 1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:22.960 said that, And it was more like it was an 1:27:22.960 --> 1:27:25.000 old interview of telling him about it, and I said, 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.080 I didn't say it that way, but the media only 1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:29.599 took out Yeah, I don't I don't care but I mean, 1:27:29.680 --> 1:27:32.920 like opinion I'm saying, like I didn't say anything crazy. 1:27:33.360 --> 1:27:34.360 I am trying to put anybody. 1:27:34.760 --> 1:27:37.679 Yeah you said you ask question answer, I'm not. It wasn't. 1:27:37.800 --> 1:27:39.920 But to tell you to your face, it wasn't like 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:42.719 a disc because I before I even gave it, Anti, 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:45.320 I gave you praise because I watched you play like that. 1:27:45.439 --> 1:27:47.639 He nice, like you know, but it was like hall 1:27:47.640 --> 1:27:48.920 of Fame, Like there's a lot of Hall of Fame 1:27:49.200 --> 1:27:55.840 receivers that got crazy ass right yeah yeah, well, hollymy 1:27:55.840 --> 1:27:56.080 tell me. 1:27:56.080 --> 1:27:57.960 How you feel about that when you when you read it, 1:27:58.160 --> 1:28:01.160 how'd you feel about it? I don't really remember it 1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:05.560 like that like off the top, Like I wasn't like like, 1:28:05.680 --> 1:28:07.920 oh what is like nah? 1:28:08.640 --> 1:28:11.800 Because they just twisted though, so it seemed like it 1:28:11.920 --> 1:28:16.080 was honestly you know, and they wreted me names. 1:28:16.200 --> 1:28:17.080 That's another thing they did. 1:28:17.800 --> 1:28:19.479 There's going on to players, and I was like, I 1:28:19.520 --> 1:28:23.400 was like, well, I mean, don't respect you, dog, but 1:28:23.720 --> 1:28:27.920 Brandy Moss is like Brandie is probably top ten player ever, 1:28:28.400 --> 1:28:29.920 you know what you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, 1:28:29.960 --> 1:28:31.880 come on, we what were talking about right now? 1:28:32.000 --> 1:28:36.920 Like it was not that I feel that he's raw 1:28:37.880 --> 1:28:40.000 at least at least still save to your face. Guy. No, 1:28:40.240 --> 1:28:43.360 but see I'm because it don't come from a malicious 1:28:43.800 --> 1:28:45.840 at all. Delicious. No, we're just talking the ball, you 1:28:45.880 --> 1:28:47.479 know what I mean. But if they asked for you 1:28:47.560 --> 1:28:50.360 a good player, I said, damn right, is it a baller? 1:28:50.760 --> 1:28:57.439 Dam right? I took on my team? Real, rat, I 1:28:57.560 --> 1:28:58.840 take you on my team. You know what I'm saying. 1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:03.000 For real, I would take that. That's a funny question though. Yeah. 1:29:06.200 --> 1:29:08.360 So we have this, we have this thing where we 1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:11.719 score the game and it's presented by win Bet. Of course. 1:29:12.640 --> 1:29:16.719 Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it? Steaks? 1:29:16.840 --> 1:29:18.720 What are the stakes of this game? Zero out of 1:29:18.800 --> 1:29:25.720 ten steaks? Yeah, steaks six? Not the best game of 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:28.800 all time? No, Yeah, that's that's that's pretty good. Star power. 1:29:29.080 --> 1:29:32.280 That's pretty cool. Uh and won a lot of start 1:29:32.280 --> 1:29:33.519 with me, Frank and who else? 1:29:33.760 --> 1:29:37.080 Jacoby Brissette, Nathan Peterman, Jacoby. 1:29:36.880 --> 1:29:39.360 Like about a three three? Let's do it on two stars? 1:29:39.840 --> 1:29:42.919 Only two stars of the whole game. That's two? Come on? Gameplay? 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:45.479 What does that mean? Just like how the game went 1:29:45.880 --> 1:29:46.679 is back and forth. 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:48.040 The game was fun, though, I would say that, so 1:29:48.080 --> 1:29:48.880 I'm gonna give it a ten. 1:29:49.560 --> 1:29:49.760 Ten. 1:29:50.400 --> 1:29:52.840 I'm just thinking like that, like it was a fun game. 1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:55.519 The snow all days, like we punt. It was so 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:56.120 many punts. 1:29:56.240 --> 1:29:57.600 Yeah, you know what I mean. It was like a 1:29:57.640 --> 1:30:00.400 lot of it was passing that was like catching it 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:03.080 and he dropping it. It was a lot of crazy. 1:30:03.160 --> 1:30:04.639 It was a fun game. We'll give it a ten. 1:30:04.840 --> 1:30:07.560 The name, So, what's the name of the game. Is 1:30:07.600 --> 1:30:11.400 it the Snowball? Is it the snow over Time? Is 1:30:11.479 --> 1:30:12.879 it the Buffalo Blizzard? 1:30:13.280 --> 1:30:13.479 Oh? 1:30:13.720 --> 1:30:18.360 That sounds the Buffalo Blizzard. That sound dope. 1:30:18.479 --> 1:30:20.080 It sounds like a good dairy queen. Itam too. 1:30:20.520 --> 1:30:23.320 Yeah, I'm gonna go to to night. Oh, I'm gonna die. 1:30:24.200 --> 1:30:28.040 Gotta get worked out. Last day I just started working 1:30:28.080 --> 1:30:30.040 on again. I was game. I'm like, damn getting bigger. 1:30:30.080 --> 1:30:34.080 My soup box box is great. It's really good. It 1:30:34.120 --> 1:30:38.200 doesn't hurt my knees. I want to go with you 1:30:38.280 --> 1:30:42.839 bro out, I don't. I just yeah, a great workout, 1:30:43.000 --> 1:30:46.240 it hurts. What's the score? The name of the game? 1:30:46.560 --> 1:30:50.240 Real quick? What I mean, what's the name? What's the name? Score? 1:30:50.600 --> 1:30:52.920 We're gonna the Buffalo Blizzard out of ten? 1:30:53.040 --> 1:30:53.400 What is that? 1:30:54.120 --> 1:30:56.920 The name. Yeah, that's a good eight. That's a good eight. 1:30:56.960 --> 1:30:59.080 That's good. That's a good name. That's a good eight. 1:30:59.280 --> 1:31:00.400 What's our total? Jack? 1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:02.400 Six point five? 1:31:02.479 --> 1:31:06.160 Where it rank? Are all our guests who had all 1:31:06.200 --> 1:31:07.080 the games you've done? 1:31:08.680 --> 1:31:12.439 That ties us with game seven of the twenty eleven 1:31:12.479 --> 1:31:15.519 Stas Cup Finals with the Dano Chara and puts us 1:31:17.200 --> 1:31:19.599 just ahead of Gilbert Arenas's sixty point game. 1:31:20.400 --> 1:31:26.880 Yeah, sixty points. G Gilbert was Kobe. I'm a Kobe fan. 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:29.120 Jill Reason was super nice, but he won my He 1:31:29.160 --> 1:31:30.360 was one of my well, I ain't gonna say my 1:31:30.400 --> 1:31:31.280 favorite players, but I. 1:31:31.400 --> 1:31:32.240 Like the way he played. 1:31:32.560 --> 1:31:34.920 He was nice, although he did be tripping a little 1:31:34.920 --> 1:31:37.080 bit when it comes to Steph Curry. Other than that 1:31:37.479 --> 1:31:38.000 he's nice. 1:31:38.720 --> 1:31:41.640 He's a beast. He was it'd be a funny to 1:31:41.760 --> 1:31:43.840 get you guys together. We did. We can do that, 1:31:44.000 --> 1:31:45.720 but we did one one athlete. He was cool. 1:31:45.840 --> 1:31:49.320 Yeah, he tried to us that he's better than Steph Curry. 1:31:49.320 --> 1:31:53.760 If you're taking twenty five years and down, I mean, 1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:57.200 I was like, yeah, I don't know better. Stuf Curry 1:31:57.240 --> 1:31:58.200 sounds wow, right, it is. 1:31:58.360 --> 1:32:01.360 Seth Curry is a monster. Got like a ticket from 1:32:01.400 --> 1:32:03.519 a police officer for saying ship like that. But I 1:32:03.600 --> 1:32:05.200 get what he was saying, but you know you should 1:32:05.240 --> 1:32:07.519 have said, but you know what's for lunch? 1:32:08.120 --> 1:32:08.320 Oh? 1:32:09.840 --> 1:32:10.280 Call back? 1:32:10.520 --> 1:32:13.680 You eat eat steak? What's yeah srimp? Let's order that 1:32:13.720 --> 1:32:16.640 because you're talking crazy. But he was nice though, he 1:32:16.720 --> 1:32:17.960 was nice. He was He was a bucket. 1:32:19.439 --> 1:32:22.200 We missed anything, Jack, I think we're good. 1:32:22.520 --> 1:32:25.840 You want to plug anything, No, I'm chilling you nothing 1:32:26.200 --> 1:32:29.000 just on Fox let's speak. They just asked me that 1:32:29.120 --> 1:32:31.479 quy try to try to catch you. Hey, thank you 1:32:31.640 --> 1:32:33.960 for coming on now. I'm gonna even know what she 1:32:34.000 --> 1:32:38.839 told me. A man, I gotta do it. Boy, Doozy 1:32:39.120 --> 1:32:40.519 popcorn was being served. 1:32:42.080 --> 1:32:46.160 That was he was everything. He's built a bet man. 1:32:46.479 --> 1:32:47.920 He didn't disappoint Shady. 1:32:48.200 --> 1:32:53.000 He never disappoints. He just he has no filter and. 1:32:54.720 --> 1:32:57.360 He has his take and he stands by his take 1:32:57.600 --> 1:32:59.960 straight shooting and if he's wrong, and he'll eat it though, 1:33:00.720 --> 1:33:01.280 he'll eat it. 1:33:01.920 --> 1:33:03.240 He's not alive if you believe it. 1:33:03.800 --> 1:33:04.719 He was really fun. 1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:06.640 He was fun. I love Shade. We got to get 1:33:06.680 --> 1:33:09.320 him back on here. Do some of his Eagles games, 1:33:09.360 --> 1:33:10.760 A pit game, something. 1:33:10.840 --> 1:33:13.360 We got you. He's just fun. To talk to and 1:33:13.520 --> 1:33:16.439 get his perspective. He's a smart guy. 1:33:16.640 --> 1:33:16.960 Amen. 1:33:17.160 --> 1:33:18.840 He remembers everything too, he does. 1:33:18.920 --> 1:33:21.200 I mean, he's got a fucking steel trap for a mind. 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:24.800 He asked me, you know, we leave, and he goes, 1:33:25.040 --> 1:33:29.559 are you left handed? I go, no, why? And he goes, 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:31.519 because you always carry the ball with your left hand. 1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:36.719 That right there tells me he knows some stuff. Because 1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:39.880 because I was a four back in the Wishbone back 1:33:39.920 --> 1:33:43.880 in nineteen ninety eight in Redwood City Pop Horner, I 1:33:43.920 --> 1:33:46.640 always ran the ball to my left and the sideline 1:33:46.720 --> 1:33:48.360 was there, and he always caught to keep the or 1:33:48.439 --> 1:33:50.960 taught to get the ball on your sideline. So my 1:33:51.160 --> 1:33:55.360 left became my dominant arm, which is weird for a 1:33:55.439 --> 1:33:58.960 right handed person. Usually people were more comfortable, and Shadey 1:33:59.040 --> 1:33:59.799 brought that out. 1:34:00.080 --> 1:34:01.160 About an observant cat. 1:34:01.280 --> 1:34:02.599 Oh my deservant dude. 1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:05.920 I crunched your tape like it's like it's a fucking 1:34:05.960 --> 1:34:08.719 episode of the Office. But I never noticed that you ain't. 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:10.920 Jack get here. 1:34:12.280 --> 1:34:13.320 I really didn't even. 1:34:13.439 --> 1:34:16.880 Man. I was sart calling you captain. By the way, 1:34:17.120 --> 1:34:19.400 one of our favorite cereals. If you're out there listening. 1:34:19.160 --> 1:34:22.840 Amen, should we get into these uh? These questions we 1:34:22.880 --> 1:34:23.639 got from the d MS. 1:34:23.920 --> 1:34:25.479 Yeah, let's let's hear what these questions. 1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:27.439 So we opened them up. We put out the prompt 1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:30.160 of hit us with your dream guest, your dream game, 1:34:30.560 --> 1:34:33.679 you dream game guest combo, and we yielded some pretty 1:34:33.720 --> 1:34:36.639 good stuff. I come through and pulled the top five. 1:34:36.760 --> 1:34:38.120 Here you ready to get into it. 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:39.320 Let's do it all right. 1:34:39.439 --> 1:34:44.040 Our guy John Edwards Underscore fourteen on Instagram said Steph 1:34:44.120 --> 1:34:46.680 Curry's Elite eight run. You know this one's near and 1:34:46.720 --> 1:34:50.439 dear to my heart. Yeah, David's and Wildcats, you know them. 1:34:50.640 --> 1:34:51.760 I was at you were there. 1:34:51.800 --> 1:34:54.320 I was at these games them. I love them. 1:34:54.360 --> 1:34:54.599 Baby. 1:34:54.760 --> 1:34:57.080 We got to get stuff in here, dude, Bob McKillop 1:34:57.120 --> 1:34:57.960 in here, the whole crew. 1:34:58.840 --> 1:35:04.000 Steph Curry, he is such a like professional, not just 1:35:04.120 --> 1:35:08.200 how he's revolutionized the game, but like you never hear 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:10.720 really a bad thing about him, and he is who 1:35:10.960 --> 1:35:14.960 like he He's just a great family man. He always 1:35:15.000 --> 1:35:18.240 has like he never gives a bad vibe. He's just 1:35:18.840 --> 1:35:19.479 very lovable. 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:20.080 Amen. 1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:25.479 And then he will shoot the lights out of any 1:35:25.600 --> 1:35:28.920 gym with any like he's an assassin on them and 1:35:29.080 --> 1:35:33.680 his handles. He's revolutionized basketball. He literally has changed the 1:35:33.800 --> 1:35:37.280 sport of basketball, Like have we We don't have any 1:35:37.360 --> 1:35:39.720 more centers. That's not that's no. 1:35:40.040 --> 1:35:40.720 Spread him out there. 1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:44.920 Everyone shoots threes because of Steph Curry. He's can we 1:35:44.960 --> 1:35:45.920 get him on Jack? 1:35:45.960 --> 1:35:46.680 You know him? Call him. 1:35:46.720 --> 1:35:48.439 I'll put in I'll put in a word here, I'll 1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:50.280 put it in a word. Oh my god, that would 1:35:50.280 --> 1:35:53.880 be that would be incredible. Moving on, we got from 1:35:54.160 --> 1:35:59.400 the three Doctor John Richardson on Instagram, Mark Sanchez Vince 1:35:59.439 --> 1:36:02.200 will Ford for the butt fumble both at. 1:36:02.160 --> 1:36:02.720 The same time. 1:36:02.960 --> 1:36:03.759 That would be wild. 1:36:04.600 --> 1:36:06.599 I mean, san Cheeto works for Fox. 1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:08.960 He's easy to get to. I would think we get 1:36:09.960 --> 1:36:10.599 get Sanchito. 1:36:10.720 --> 1:36:13.360 We can get He did a Super Bowl appearance together. 1:36:13.960 --> 1:36:16.280 He like mediated something that we did and he did 1:36:16.320 --> 1:36:20.000 pretty well. He's doing well on TV. He's handsome, he's 1:36:20.040 --> 1:36:23.400 a he got I don't know what the hair. 1:36:23.479 --> 1:36:27.360 It's a little, it's it's it's it's longer than you 1:36:27.439 --> 1:36:30.000 ever see him in the playing days. Yeah, eating hot 1:36:30.040 --> 1:36:31.800 dog on the sidelines, it was pretty clean cut. 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:35.439 But like now, I mean, I guess maybe that's what 1:36:35.600 --> 1:36:38.000 that's what he's feeling right now. That's his confident self. 1:36:38.320 --> 1:36:40.000 I'd like to get a get it straight. 1:36:40.120 --> 1:36:42.320 I want to We're gonna get him on here now here? 1:36:42.400 --> 1:36:43.840 What about what about the Big Vince? Is he just 1:36:43.920 --> 1:36:44.799 chilling down in Texas? 1:36:45.080 --> 1:36:48.160 I don't know, but I anytime I think about Vince, 1:36:48.240 --> 1:36:50.719 I just think of he had literally a semi truck. 1:36:51.760 --> 1:36:54.519 He had a semi truck car like truck that he 1:36:54.600 --> 1:36:58.519 was like without a trailer, literally a semi truck that 1:36:58.600 --> 1:37:02.280 he would drive to work. And I just see him 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:06.160 with nothing but overalls on. That's exactly how I picture 1:37:06.240 --> 1:37:07.519 him right now in Cowboy books. 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:08.960 And he's got to be manning like a grill of 1:37:09.040 --> 1:37:10.160 some sort, a huge smoker. 1:37:10.280 --> 1:37:12.600 Definitely, he has cooked for me and it was phenomenal 1:37:13.360 --> 1:37:17.760 his house once with Randy oh Man, it was. 1:37:18.120 --> 1:37:20.320 I would kill to be at that meal. What a 1:37:20.400 --> 1:37:24.759 beast love Vins. Gotta get him on, moving on. Thad 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:29.120 Harold also on Instagram a throwback Carlton Fisk for the 1:37:29.240 --> 1:37:32.599 nineteen seventy five World Series Game six. You remember when 1:37:32.640 --> 1:37:36.080 he was doing the foul doing that one. 1:37:36.439 --> 1:37:40.000 That's a throwback, Yeah, throwback. Maybe if we ever Carlton 1:37:40.200 --> 1:37:45.160 Fiske got it and it didn't, maybe if we move 1:37:45.240 --> 1:37:47.439 foul right noticed it it went foul. 1:37:47.680 --> 1:37:50.439 Yeah, yeah, we got to Uh I was against the Reds. 1:37:50.439 --> 1:37:54.320 I believe if we ever maybe pop over to Fenway, 1:37:55.040 --> 1:37:59.080 we got it. Carlton or we needed we need a 1:37:59.120 --> 1:38:01.840 base original, Puz, we need a baseball game. It's been 1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:03.520 a while since we've done a baseball. 1:38:03.280 --> 1:38:04.439 On a sap. Yep. 1:38:04.680 --> 1:38:08.439 When in classic baseball like that when baseball was cool, man, Yeah, 1:38:08.840 --> 1:38:10.160 I like that was it. 1:38:10.400 --> 1:38:15.559 I mean that was like still old time baseball right 1:38:15.720 --> 1:38:18.519 where it was like part of America. Now ol baseball 1:38:18.680 --> 1:38:21.720 was like nineties base cool baseball, eighties eighty five to 1:38:21.840 --> 1:38:25.840 nineties baseball. It's like, oh, these dudes are fucking hitting 1:38:25.880 --> 1:38:27.679 the ball to the movie. Yeah that's cool. 1:38:28.760 --> 1:38:30.920 Okay, these guys are playing small ball still back in 1:38:31.000 --> 1:38:34.519 seventy five, which is fun. I'm a baseball traditionalist. I 1:38:34.600 --> 1:38:35.160 love baseball. 1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:38.160 I'm with you. But the cool nineties this was pretty cool. 1:38:38.160 --> 1:38:39.800 You're right, You're right, it's pretty cool. Now it's now 1:38:39.840 --> 1:38:41.480 we're just in kind of forgetable. 1:38:41.040 --> 1:38:45.479 Era, fast fast era. It's the fast Mookie. 1:38:45.479 --> 1:38:48.280 Shoutout, Mookie, we love Another one from Instagram came in. 1:38:48.600 --> 1:38:51.720 Matthew P. Charles would like to see us have Ray 1:38:52.000 --> 1:38:56.200 Ruth and O J. Simpson on Jesus Matthew Boy, we 1:38:56.320 --> 1:38:57.400 got some funked up listeners. 1:38:57.479 --> 1:39:01.479 Oh God, did juice the juice? I mean we are 1:39:01.520 --> 1:39:04.360 in Brentwood, I mean we did have a juice reference. 1:39:04.880 --> 1:39:08.280 Oh you're right, Oh my god, Shady, that got real awkward, 1:39:08.320 --> 1:39:08.760 real fast. 1:39:09.360 --> 1:39:13.200 So when he said the Hall of Fame stuff, I 1:39:13.840 --> 1:39:17.960 thought about juice because it was on Instagram. Someone asked him. 1:39:18.560 --> 1:39:21.920 Somebody sent me a video of OJ saying that I 1:39:22.040 --> 1:39:24.559 belong in the Hall of Fame. And then he brought 1:39:24.600 --> 1:39:27.880 up that, and I was gonna say it, but I couldn't. 1:39:27.920 --> 1:39:30.479 I would have been yeah, o J. 1:39:30.680 --> 1:39:31.679 He loves the Twitter video. 1:39:31.720 --> 1:39:35.479 OJ does. Yeah, I was this close to pulling it up, 1:39:36.120 --> 1:39:38.800 this close. I don didn't know how long it was 1:39:38.960 --> 1:39:43.439 a little OJ. Yeah. I don't think Shady would have mind. 1:39:43.720 --> 1:39:46.920 No, he would have been down to OJ always signs off. 1:39:47.200 --> 1:39:51.040 I'm just saying on Twitter. And then on Ray Carruth, 1:39:51.720 --> 1:39:55.479 I mean, also a reprehensible figure. There was a guy 1:39:55.600 --> 1:39:58.040 I remember going to Panthers games growing. 1:39:57.880 --> 1:39:58.960 Up, who is Ray Cruth? 1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:02.800 Wide Receive out of Colorado. He had a hit man 1:40:03.439 --> 1:40:04.679 try to kill his pregnant wife. 1:40:04.800 --> 1:40:06.799 Oh so these are these are bad guys. 1:40:06.920 --> 1:40:10.880 Oh my god, yeah, this in this guy Matthew Matthew, Yeah, 1:40:10.920 --> 1:40:12.559 he wants to see us, have him on and welcome 1:40:12.640 --> 1:40:14.000 him to your home. Like, what the fuck? 1:40:14.040 --> 1:40:14.160 Bro? 1:40:14.840 --> 1:40:18.880 This is so this guy Raker reprehend awful. Guy tried 1:40:18.880 --> 1:40:21.840 to hit man kill his wife who was pregnant at 1:40:21.840 --> 1:40:24.519 the time. There was a guy after this. I would 1:40:24.520 --> 1:40:27.559 see him at Bank of America Stadium, maybe ericson field. 1:40:27.640 --> 1:40:30.120 Back then. He was like at the middle aged, most 1:40:30.200 --> 1:40:33.800 mild manner, looking like average white dad. He would wear 1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:37.200 a Rayker Ruth jersey tucked into like acid washed jeans 1:40:37.840 --> 1:40:40.439 for like twenty years, no matter what. I would go 1:40:40.520 --> 1:40:43.000 to this game or a Panthers game like once or 1:40:43.040 --> 1:40:45.479 twice a year see this guy every time. Wow, and 1:40:45.560 --> 1:40:48.360 he's just walking around like it was cool. I think 1:40:48.400 --> 1:40:51.640 he makes Twitter every now and again. People will resurface. 1:40:51.200 --> 1:40:54.400 Photos this guy. Was he that good of a player? 1:40:54.800 --> 1:40:56.720 He's like a second round pick out of Colorado, Like 1:40:57.640 --> 1:40:58.639 I don't know the full. 1:41:00.080 --> 1:41:01.680 I love like them. 1:41:01.960 --> 1:41:03.320 That's a guy we might need to get on the pod, 1:41:03.360 --> 1:41:06.240 say dude, what is wrong with you? On a lighter note, 1:41:07.200 --> 1:41:11.120 a more normal fan, Matt Zetcher I believe is the 1:41:11.200 --> 1:41:14.400 pronunciation on Instagram. He wants the Kelsey Bowl. 1:41:14.720 --> 1:41:18.839 You got to get the yeah, it's yeah, it's not if. 1:41:18.920 --> 1:41:21.120 We heard him on tape on the New Heights Body. 1:41:21.400 --> 1:41:24.320 They confirmed it. They confirmed that's a that's a hard yes. 1:41:24.720 --> 1:41:27.200 We will count as an inked yes, inked yes. 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:33.120 What an episode. Thanks again, Shady. That was unbelievable. That's 1:41:33.160 --> 1:41:37.479 been another episode of Games with Names, presented by when Bett. 1:41:37.640 --> 1:41:44.519 Remember guys, please follow us at Games with Names on Instagram, 1:41:45.320 --> 1:41:51.320 x TikTok and snapchat. Jackie, we'll see it one week. 1:41:51.439 --> 1:41:53.800 We'll we'll see him next week. That was one. Another 1:41:53.840 --> 1:41:56.880 one in the bank. 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