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Speaker 1: Today we have two times Super Bowl champ Lashawan, Shady McCoy.

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Speaker 1: We're talking the twenty seventeen Snowbird time game.

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Speaker 2: Probably get a tackle McCoy into the The cool thing

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Speaker 2: about the snow What people don't understand is that when

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Speaker 1: Pillows and they can't get attraction. But I can sign

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Speaker 1: me up. So are you the greatest snow running back

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Speaker 1: of all time? I don't know. I'm saying yes. You'll

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Speaker 1: see it on loss. We're gonna see a lot of

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Speaker 1: insane takes. You always get your popcorn ready when Shady

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Speaker 2: And everybody's so sensitive listen on TV. In the locker room,

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Speaker 2: I'm the same way.

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Speaker 1: I just speak the truth.

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Speaker 2: I used to believe that your coach, Bill Belichip was

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest coach of all time, right, I

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Speaker 2: used to, But now I updated my information and that

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Speaker 2: is super false. You go from the top of the division,

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Speaker 2: top of the DC East Birds twenty years now you

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Speaker 1: We and Brentwood. We are in Brentwood. Oh they got

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Speaker 1: a prison? Can we gonna see his house? Games with

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Speaker 1: Names is a production of iHeart Radio. Welcome to games

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Speaker 1: we're talking the twenty seventeen snover Time game with Shady

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Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy.

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Speaker 3: Is it Is it a stone Cold Steve Austin type thing, Like,

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Speaker 3: have you said Steve stone Cold Austin? That just doesn't work, Shady.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like you just replaced. You never hear Lashawn

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Speaker 3: and Shady in the same place.

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Speaker 1: All I just think of as Shade Shady. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: got screwed up when I saw Lashawan. I knew that

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Speaker 1: was his name, but everyone knows him as Shady.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. It's like a Batman Bruce Wayne thing.

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Speaker 3: You're never gonna see them in the.

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Speaker 1: Same You're never gonna see, but you know what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see. We're gonna see a lot of insane tape.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, topics, snow game, Belichick versus read talk,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, talk a lot more. This guy had.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're always you always get your popcorn ready

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Speaker 3: I mean we were holding our own too. It turned

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Speaker 3: into a little debate, but good news, we're mastered today.

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Speaker 2: He just he just wants to debate. I was, I was,

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Speaker 2: I was conflicted.

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Speaker 3: But then at the end of the day, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: win every time. Rings, Baby kiss the Rings and Belli

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Speaker 3: and Bill we trust clock management.

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Speaker 1: Well just Bill, two great coaches, you know, yes, all right.

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Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy in the all reds streaks for the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Names presented by when Bet. Today we have Lashawn Shady

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Speaker 1: McCoy in studio, two time Super Bowl champ, two different teams,

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Speaker 1: six time Pro bowler, the King of the twenty ten's

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Speaker 1: of mine. First time I'll get to enjoy and experience

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Speaker 1: the real Shady McCoy and future Hall of Famer. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you see the backs of the Hall of Fame. You

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Speaker 1: Let's let's see. The thing is is that people are

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Speaker 2: I respect that, Like like for example, like you know,

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Speaker 1: And my question to you is at the bottom right now?

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Speaker 1: it happens.

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Speaker 2: It happens when I look at other great coaches like

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Speaker 1: They win in in playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They don't look they don't they don't play smart football

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Speaker 2: They look disciplined. We always just say this. Playing the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: I think he I think he's a really good coach.

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Speaker 2: I do did you ask? Did you ever ask Tom?

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Speaker 2: One time I did it, I take on on ballot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But Shady, what do you say when people bring

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Speaker 2: Then when he got there, he had all them freaking

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, is he boy? Because he had LT

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Speaker 1: He's in. He's your first guy to ever make nickel

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Speaker 2: he's really good. We should see when he was younger.

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Speaker 1: He was a beast man watch him as a young dude.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is when you talk about how great

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of them Bro, A lot of them

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Speaker 2: They were then God has given him time, Like come on, man,

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Speaker 1: You can't say it. I can say, you can't say it.

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Speaker 1: You see how that ship going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a generational talent, That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So that's the common factor. You gotta have a generational talent.

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Speaker 1: There's many ways over the man the wall. You can

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Speaker 2: If any if any had the Patriots, they will win games.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't have the defense. Though our team played like

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is if Andy Reid right today right,

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Speaker 1: And they brought any reading there right where to the Patriots?

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Speaker 1: They will be winning games.

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Speaker 2: The quarterback that he plays around with, he starts in

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Speaker 2: and he would make Mac Jones, he would make He

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Speaker 2: You would see development was telling truth. I mean I

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Speaker 1: He's always always done it though he's and he's always

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Speaker 1: I could do this forever. He drafts good offensive guys.

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Speaker 1: It's the same way Bill goes on defense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, after after that Hall of Fame group, I

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Speaker 1: We never feared that the Patriots defense. Which one? Which team? Any?

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Speaker 2: I mean I got there and what fifteen. How many

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Speaker 1: Because of him gets higher and higher, the more fiery. Yep,

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Speaker 1: Why'd you pick this one? I didn't pick it? Who

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Speaker 3: I thought Shady picked it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't pick it. I mean I had a good

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Speaker 1: Who We got it from your people that you want

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of good I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: You were great in the snow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is we do a snow game. It's another one.

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Speaker 2: The other one had twenty yards, but this one had

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Speaker 2: You said this before, and I should play, I said,

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Speaker 2: But I gotta give you some flowers though, too, though,

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Speaker 2: because I remember watching you play. You always play with

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Speaker 2: You catch the ball and you fight after the catch.

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Speaker 2: You know that's something you only see a lot, you know.

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Speaker 2: Dudes they hit the hit the deck when they yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would do stuff like this. I would run hardert

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Speaker 1: What they would do is that they're always blocking. They

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Speaker 1: of block. Well, we don't know why you picked this game,

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Speaker 1: but you have plenty of games, right I do. I

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Speaker 1: lot of good ones. Yeah. I like that. It's just

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Speaker 2: Facts like this whole John the transition from the Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Like, I like all this, You like that, this

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Speaker 2: is this is how this is like a New England

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, just Jack, That's what they say.

437
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Speaker 3: Sloppiness is a disease.

438
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: Sloppiness is a disease. It was you can't win until

439
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: you keep from losing. We gotta we gotta preach those

440
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 1: old things that I heard in New England to New

441
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:40,719
Speaker 1: England right now.

442
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: My first year playing with a dude name of Patrick Chunk. Yeah,

443
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 2: we're the same dragon class, but I didn't know him,

444
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 2: you know, But when he came to Philadelphia from Patriots.

445
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what is about Patriots players that maybe

446
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 2: it might be jealousy that you know players. I guess

447
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: them only care from that much.

448
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, guys don't. So we came to the cool dude.

449
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 2: When I got to know him, and I remember saying, uh, yeah,

450
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: this ain't all that Patriots scheme. This ain't gonna work here.

451
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: You gotta tackle me. You don't talking trash to him

452
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 2: like because I didn't respect his game, and he was

453
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 2: the first dude I said, Okay, he can play. He's

454
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 2: not the Patriots scheme. He actually is a good player,

455
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: and we became cool after that.

456
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: I beat him a lot, but he would get me sometimes.

457
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: Chun Chum was good though we were drafting the same year.

458
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm two thousand and eight as well. Oh I don't know.

459
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: Me and Chung we would fight every day in practice,

460
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: like our first three years, every fucking day just because

461
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: I had to come in and get the forest of safety.

462
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: He'd be that guy, and there's like no brother in

463
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: law in that practice like you. Sometimes you certain guys

464
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: Chung where he would go hard, I'd go harder because

465
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Speaker 1: Chung's feisty.

466
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he got he got little dog, he's got

467
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: some he's got some dude's crazy.

468
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you the same way. Yeah, there's a lot

469
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: of those guys that over there. How's the transition been

470
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: going to TV? Fox? Because you're getting some play now

471
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 1: full time on Speak. It used to just come in

472
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: and they just said, hey, you know, want you minees

473
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: was all.

474
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Speaker 2: I won't say difficult, but it was different because like,

475
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: I didn't go to a lot of different like boot

476
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: camps and stuff like that, and I would do like

477
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: media and stuff like that just as a player. And

478
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: once I got done, I enjoyed a couple of months

479
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 2: of just living like.

480
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: I small things. I take your kids to school.

481
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: I never can do that, and I was like, damn,

482
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: I like this and traveling and stuff like that. But

483
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 2: then I got bored, right, I said, let me get

484
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 2: into this whole TV thing. And I went in there

485
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: and my people reached to, you know, different networks, and

486
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: I felt more comfortable with Fox because you'd be more free.

487
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Speaker 1: And I loved it.

488
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's helped me out with staying relevant in

489
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Speaker 2: the football world, but also just I think a standpoint

490
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Speaker 2: of like missing a game but being close enough where

491
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm not actually playing and getting hit.

492
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Speaker 1: It's the best. It's because like we all need a

493
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Speaker 1: foot fix if you're a football player, like and then

494
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, there's like a couple different avenues you can go.

495
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: You can go coaching. But like when you were when

496
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: you were a player and you were leaving work, which

497
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: you were already putting in hell hours, your coaches families

498
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: were in the fucking parking lot watching and saying hi

499
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: before they go back for another three hours at least,

500
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, coaches, they work, so like you gotta love

501
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: I love football, but I did my time. You know

502
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: I can't. That's that's too much time. This is the

503
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: perfect amount of time where you get your football fix.

504
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: You get a little locker room vibe with the people

505
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: that you're casting with, yes, where you guys could talk

506
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: war stories and ship Like when I did inside the

507
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: NFL for two years, you know, I had Phil Simms,

508
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, Brandon Marshall. So you get to sit Mike Irvin,

509
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: like you get to hear and like that's what you

510
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: do in the locker room, bust each other's balls and

511
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: talk shit. And then you get to have an actual

512
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: life too with it, you know, So like that's the

513
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: that's I think TV is awesome and you're keeps you

514
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah, because now I'm watching more film

515
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: with everyone. I used to just watch your opponent and

516
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: just It's the hardest thing for me is knowing people's names.

517
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: I just know people's numbers. You know, you study all right,

518
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: he's quicker than fast. This that he's used off hand

519
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: jam and you're just going numbers. Now you got to names.

520
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: And that was one thing for me is that was.

521
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: Tough because I've had some struggles with TV, like, for example,

522
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: like now I'm getting better at it because I'm so

523
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: raw and new at it. Where I called Dak Prescott ass,

524
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm lying, I say his ass ass, but in all reality,

525
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: I should have said it different, like he's playing like

526
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: ass because there's a lot of ass quarterbacks.

527
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: He's not as ass. Yeah he ain't. Is he one ass?

528
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: But I should have said more like he's playing like

529
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: ass because I think he's an average average quarterback.

530
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: Right, He's not.

531
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: He's not He's not a Uh Jones or he's not

532
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: a what's the guy from the Bears. He's not just that,

533
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, he's uh. I think he's

534
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: like evers average.

535
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: He's basically a cooler Kirk Cousins. I think they're the

536
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: same person That's what I mean. But he's cooler, but

537
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: his persona is cooler. I don't know about that. Kurt's

538
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: got like nerd vibe and then like Dak's got brand,

539
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: like you know something. He plays for the Cowboys. I

540
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: don't know how much how cool he is, Like I don't.

541
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: He don't come off as like cool, but he doesn't

542
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: come off as a nerd.

543
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: I don't think Kirk has come up as a nerd.

544
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: He got the chains, only.

545
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Got the little thing. I don't. He comes on. He

546
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: gives you nerd vibes. Okay, what else, that's how you

547
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: see it. But anyway, all great quarterbacks have nerd in them.

548
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: Though Tommy was not nerdy. Tom's got a little nerd

549
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: in them. Bro do we Yeah he didn't. You didn't

550
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: get to see real time. You guys ranted him. He

551
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: ranted tom didn't open up a certain it's certain quarterbacks

552
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at gonna be cool overall anyway, Like Patrick Mahomes

553
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: got a little nerd in him. He's like dorky nerds.

554
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: Sometime I hung out with that kid before he was

555
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes his rookie year he got he just got

556
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: a little nerd in him. I won't call him that,

557
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: but I mean, I guess allolds are cool, but it's

558
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: still nerds.

559
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: All quarterbacks have like a a like not a not

560
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: a cool thing. But it's like they're the quarterbacks, like

561
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, They're not gonna be super now.

562
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: Vic was super cool.

563
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: Vigga is cool, but like the Shyburns. I tell him

564
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: that every time I see him. I said, Yo, dude,

565
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: I used to go to my barber and I said, Yo,

566
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: give me the Vic cybers a little bit of er

567
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: and go down to here, bro Viggas.

568
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lie when uh he came in Philadelphia my

569
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: rookie year, me Deshaun and back when.

570
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: We're all young and he was god and we was like, Yo,

571
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: Michael Victor stopped in the building. Now we came through.

572
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: Hold up, Mike, what's up? What's up? What's upro nice?

573
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: Meet drowing me. I'm shady. Nice to me.

574
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: He leaves like yo, my hand, like oh go my mom,

575
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: like no vixer. So that was a crazy thing to

576
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: be like that. He like the everybody's idol. It'd be

577
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: games where like dudes are going back and forth and it'

578
00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 2: getting disrespect.

579
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: Vic speak everybody chill out. So he was cool.

580
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: But as far as quarterbacks, they all are just like

581
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 2: okay with the whole coolness and all that.

582
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Vic's different status for when it comes to swag though,

583
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: like okay, you can't put Vic in nerd category, you know,

584
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: but a lot of quarterbacks Josh Allen, what you gonna

585
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: say about him? He's got a little nerd, does he? No? No, nah,

586
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: what you say about him? I said, you don't know

587
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: the word that is not nerd. It's gonna be he

588
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: got reckless in them. Yeah, there's a lot of that.

589
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: It's it's, it's, it's it's it's so much over he's

590
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: so reckless. I'm just saying it's over over, not over.

591
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like we keep on saying that the

592
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: same thing about Josh Allen each year. He's that tchallenge

593
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna make. I know, but when does it become

594
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: a problem?

595
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: Man?

596
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: He got he listened. I was I was on TV

597
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: talking about this.

598
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: They thought I was tripping. I said, if a guy

599
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: like that Prescott throws, has the most picks last year

600
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: and plays five less games.

601
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: Right, everybody's alarmed, like, oh, what the heck is?

602
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: Right, But when there's certain talented dudes, but they're ceiling

603
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: is so high and their baggage, shit, they could be productive.

604
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: Running the ball, throwing the ball, but they're gonna bring picks.

605
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna take that luggage just because he's so good

606
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and a dude like Brett Farr had a lot of

607
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: that in it. Only one one, only one one. He

608
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: been there twice. You know, hard is to win championships.

609
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: See See that's the.

610
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: Problem that Patriots people have. Y'all think everybodyless win championships

611
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: every year. It don't happen like that. Brother, nerds are

612
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: no nerves.

613
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: They don't win like that. If you're an all time

614
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: great at that position, you should have more. Like there's

615
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: less than you think.

616
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: Especially when he got Belichick.

617
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: There's less than you think.

618
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: Especially old How many of course you ges is run

619
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: around is having all these championships? You think Peyton Man

620
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: is a great quarterback right right too, he only has two.

621
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: Drew Brees is one of the most accurate cours I've

622
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: ever seen. He has one Aaron Rodgers is so great.

623
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Here's one. So when you look at these numbers, yeah,

624
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: but they're lower on the totem pull of the greats.

625
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: Who's at the top. What you play? He's the best

626
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: player out of everybody. Tom Is you got Joe Montana

627
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: at four? What he had? Four championship? Yeah? Who else?

628
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: Come on, she's gonna get real hard.

629
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, it gets hard with the multiple but

630
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: you have to like, I don't know, man like Seork

631
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: Tradman has how many three?

632
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: How good was he? It was? You know where we

633
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: talking about, No, we're nerd. These guys were talking about.

634
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: Do you get what I'm saying.

635
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: So when I look at Josh if you went up

636
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 2: with Josh Allen, when I saw I played with him

637
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: as a rookie, he's he always had that ending.

638
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: He gets real wild up, he gets I know, and

639
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: that's something you think you could coach out of a guy.

640
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 2: But we're here seven now. I don't think he'll talk.

641
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll never get rid of that. I

642
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: think he gets maybe lose.

643
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: Your games so shady and he hadn't won a super

644
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Bowl yet. He's got he's got a talented roster see

645
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I got very talented roster. People

646
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: be talking like he's a loser. He's not. He's not

647
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: a loser.

648
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: So up so the same the same way he's been playing.

649
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: He's played that same way for the last three four years.

650
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: Right, I would say he's he's gotten a little worse

651
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: ever since Stayball left. But day Ball a coach doesn't

652
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: know that he's I mean, yeah, I know, but he's.

653
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: But when you say he's, he's his production. Yes, he's

654
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: been electric and he's No one's taking talent away from

655
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, but I'm saying I'm saying him at the

656
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: quarterback position executing at a high level. And we can

657
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: all talk about the regular season and stuff, but these

658
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: things are happening in the most important games that he's playing,

659
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: where he's turning the ball over in the red area's

660
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: turn and.

661
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: It's it's constantly happening. When is it like, all right,

662
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: we gotta like, what what do you do with that?

663
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: I hope you don't. I mean, what do you do

664
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: with that? Which which you option?

665
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: Especially with such a quarterback dense league, Right, so so

666
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: there's an option that because that team's gonna blow up

667
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: here soon put the option that I'm about to say

668
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: that can't happen.

669
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: It's just you get rid of me. No, You're not

670
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of me.

671
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is maybe he can change turn it

672
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: down a little bit. But that's what he is. And

673
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: if you look at the numbers, right, the dude wins,

674
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: bro he wins you. But I'm not saying but he

675
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: wins in that fashion. He wins in that wold fashion.

676
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw the ball crazy, I'm running about why

677
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm a fumble, but we're gonna win this game.

678
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: The truth an Andy Reid Patrick Mahomes team don't make

679
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: those mistakes in the playoffs. That's true. And we're not

680
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: talking I'm not talking about Josh Allen as like a

681
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: seven to eight quarterback. We're talking about him vying to

682
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: be a number one quarterback in this league. And with

683
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: those kind of things, that's that's where I'm putting him

684
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: because of the talent he needs to be in that

685
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: upper echelon and like those things. Thinks there's no other

686
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league like him.

687
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 2: There isn't, Bro No, So it's like and it all

688
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: got different superpowers and got a superpower.

689
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: You know that he is the most all of them.

690
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: So I heard from a player that played with him

691
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: and the guy that has played with Daniel Jones, and

692
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: he says Daniel Jones is way more accurate than them.

693
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: And the thing is that, dude you're talking about you

694
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: shouldn't even talk to him. No more about no sports.

695
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: That should be a last conversation. Should you should go

696
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: to something?

697
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: So what you eat? Accuracy? Pure accuracy? Is playing right now? No?

698
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: Or is he where's he living at? I don't know

699
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: what I'm not throwing no, no, no. The next question

700
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: have been dangn So what are you eating? Were eating

701
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: tonight for for dinner? Do you where you want to? Like?

702
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: After he said that issue, no more football conversation, ever,

703
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: how's the kids? Like? You know what I'm saying? Like

704
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: as nice car? You got bro like a subject? What

705
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: was he talking about? Jones? Like that?

706
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Look like he Come on, man, I ain't about to

707
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: dis dagl Jones because he did it. He did hisself enough.

708
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: What are we talking about?

709
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: Next question? Name? So we got a segment where we

710
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: go back in the time of where this game took place.

711
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: This game took place December tenth, twenty seventeenth, and the

712
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: number one movie was Coco. You ever seen that. I've

713
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: never heard that movie. It's like it's a animation, right,

714
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: it's what do the kids?

715
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: Rocky, I gotta do this all day.

716
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: He's kind of he easy, he's he's a lovey, lovey dovey. Yeah.

717
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Number one song rock Star by post Malone that went,

718
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: I love that song, Featur post Malone. I remember when

719
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: Molly ma mm hmmm.

720
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: Anyway, I was at his house and I met post

721
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: Malone because before he was big and he was like, yo,

722
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be a big ass star.

723
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like you. He smell the cigarettes.

724
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: He was braided then too right, braided. Yes, I said, well,

725
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: good luck, and sure enough he's a big star. And

726
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: happy for him.

727
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Man, there's always that cigarette had me trick for a second.

728
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: What he's like, twenty some years old, a.

729
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: Little cigarette, big star, man, I'm telling you, man, and

730
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: man he did it happy. So you thought that because

731
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: of the cigarette, like the way he smoked the cigarette,

732
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: it was cool factor that maybe it could happen or.

733
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: What was it was more like I never seen a

734
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: twenty some year old kids smoking cigarettes. I never really

735
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: you grew up in Pennsylvania.

736
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: No smoked cigarettes out there.

737
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: They smoke weed at twenty two years old. Twenty two Yeah,

738
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: it ain't cigarettes is like an old people thing. It's

739
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: probably a coastal thing. Like your grandma, Hey, go get

740
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 2: me a lucy from the from the store.

741
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: Okay, grandma, go get the cigarette. Yeah you got. We

742
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: used to have to give him note, you know what

743
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But the kids like twenty twe twenty and

744
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: they smokeing weed. Everyone. Now there is a vape. All

745
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: these kids vape bro It's crazy. They evade the flavored tobacco.

746
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: I know, but I guess the look of a cigarette

747
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: like some old people thinking like and kind of cool.

748
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: And he was he just right, he's my cigarettes. Nah.

749
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: Oh he smoked like this though. That's really killed me,

750
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: Like oh, you know.

751
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, like, oh, that was like this right

752
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: then he turns around and dropped white irons. Old come

753
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: on right like one.

754
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Of my favorite songs smoked cigarettes. You know that party.

755
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: I went out to Amsterdam of Nice and he was

756
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: performing there and we got linked up and we played

757
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: beer bong before and after the show. For hours. He

758
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: was this is cool, dude, cool, cool as hell cool

759
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: the circuits for a loop. Yeah at twenty you know

760
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. So if you're smoking cigarettes and you're

761
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: under the age of twenty two, shady things, this is like,

762
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing?

763
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you right trip there.

764
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta go to Europe. All the kids down

765
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: there are smoking. We need to get we need to

766
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: just have you do PSAs for non smoking for anyone

767
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm under the age of twenty two, I'm not on it.

768
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm just I love that. That's good. We got children.

769
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: You got a three year old, I got a six

770
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: year old. I agree. I just do we need PSA?

771
00:35:55,160 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: I figure shady. You know around this time, Virgil drops

772
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: his Nike collabse the ten You remember, do you have

773
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: any Virgils? I never really got into his. I don't

774
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: really wear sneakers. I were like shoes. You know what

775
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Products. I don't really get crazy with like

776
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: how much you know you're rich?

777
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, just never even when I was

778
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: a kid, Like, I mean, can we just we haven't

779
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: even talked about the Oh no, that does it spin?

780
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: No? No, no, the spinners that that was her time.

781
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: I'm not a crazy jewelry I used to do, You're

782
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: not a crazy jewelry guy. You have a big ass

783
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: piece on it. And I watched that. It is literally

784
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: we had to put that blind up there so the

785
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: light wouldn't hit me in the eye off those diamonds.

786
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 2: There was a certain time and I was like crazy

787
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: with it. If I was to tell you some of

788
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: the dumb stuff I used to purchase, I thought I

789
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: was a rapper.

790
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. But anyway, what this crazy

791
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: jewey on not no more's like this is likes. This

792
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: is like you can't do it in l A either.

793
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: You get ganged out here. I mean, I'm gonna do

794
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: wherever I'm at in the city. I don't know your

795
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: purse took. I don't know. I don't know.

796
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's la is crazy like Philadelphia.

797
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: It's different now though one's way way worse yees, but

798
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: it's I've.

799
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: Been seeing people like I watched those videos, like I

800
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: seen dudes getting taken out of cars over on Beverly Hills,

801
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: taking out the car. Yeah for a watch for those

802
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: AP's or those That's why Richard Mills. Crazy question. What

803
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: was life like for Lashawn McCoy in twenty seventeen? So

804
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: how many years in are you right now? You're probably

805
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: what five? Six? Yeah, so I'm thinking you're bretted, Yeah, bredded,

806
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: You're bretted. This was in Buffalo.

807
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 2: So I had a I had a big deal in Philly,

808
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: and then when I got traded in fifteen, they gave

809
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: me a new deal. I remember, you got trade yourself pissed.

810
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: I would like to feel like this guy is gonna

811
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: be a problem in our division.

812
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: And then uh so something was nice. Man. This year

813
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl year like six and Russian I think fifth

814
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: and Rusling. That a good year.

815
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: We didn't win, went to the playoffs this year, though,

816
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 2: you know, Buffalo was that was a that was tough,

817
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: that transition from going to philid up at the Buffalo,

818
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: you know, because because like my home, my house where.

819
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: I grew up at, it's an hour away from the stadium.

820
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So getting traded, I was like it was

821
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: just I was the best, second best friend the team

822
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: at the time behind Jason Peters. Oh, he's the best

823
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: part to play with not being a quarterback. Yeah, and

824
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: I played with some dudes Jason. Jason was like different anyway.

825
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: And then going there, I was just like, damn, I

826
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: just didn't feel comfortable. Small things you don't even think of,

827
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: like have a bad game, I'm going home, not to

828
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: my house where I live at, but to my my

829
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: house where my parents live at our away.

830
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: Small things like that, and all my family was there

831
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: and everything. And then go on the Buffalo. It's not

832
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: a big city. You know, it's cold, there's nothing really

833
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: there for easy. It's cold, but I got to love it.

834
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: It's a great city though. Good people that live.

835
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: There, have some good coaches, got great fans, great fans.

836
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: Those fans are nuts.

837
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: And I was sitting like like on our way in

838
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: and out, I was it was like it was like

839
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: a thing you got ready for. When you see all

840
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: the fucking crazy ship people jumping bro.

841
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Stuff, people think real quick they think it's a game.

842
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying, yo, that stuff they do on TV, all

843
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: that they doing for real.

844
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

845
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: Our first we had our first Thursday night game in Buffalo.

846
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: They didn't haveing it for so long. Right, it was Thursday,

847
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: the game Monday, there were r vs parked out.

848
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, the game ain't for three more days.

849
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: They go crazy crazy. Yeah, so that's there's like a

850
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: camping area it is. Yes, it's weird. Yeah, and I

851
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: love Buffalo. What happened in sports NFL MVP Tom Brady

852
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: we both played for. I got a question who's better?

853
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: Tom or hold On? Don't know more questions about that.

854
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: Tom is the best player to ever touch football. So

855
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, until Mahomes goes out there and the homes

856
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 2: as bad as he is. My homes is my first

857
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: practice with him. Andy Reed is tight. My first practice.

858
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: I get there and he faced the ball the year

859
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: this is twenty twenty no no, no, no, twenty nineteen,

860
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: takes the ball face to me.

861
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: I run outside and.

862
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 2: He's I'm thinking he's gonna throw he looks, he looks

863
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: me off right. I'm like the third option, you know,

864
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: the look the check down. He's looking like he's about

865
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: to throw the.

866
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: Ball to like an over route. Makes sense. He whips

867
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: that shit to me.

868
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never seen a quarterback throw a bullet. No, look,

869
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: that was the first time ever seen it. And Andy

870
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 2: Reed smiled at me like, you know, I'm a gang

871
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: Like this dude is really that good, bro. And he

872
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: was so good that he taught me that the stuff

873
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 2: he was doing he only started for because he sat

874
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: the bench the first year.

875
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: People don't know that. The next year he came out.

876
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: He went crazy. But he was so good. He wasn't

877
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: even like he needed more development.

878
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: So like small things dropping back in the pocket, the

879
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: pressure comes, I'm gonna step up, liver the ball.

880
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: He didn't do that. He would wait, he would he

881
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: would run around all that crazy shit because he still

882
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: was learning. He'll still do from saying.

883
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: Yo, in three four, five years, this league is gonna

884
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: be scary because this dude is gonna get better.

885
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: And it's better. He's already he's alread up. Heiod is good.

886
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: He gets better, it's gonna be scary. It already is,

887
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: it already is. And he throws a football like a

888
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: bit like baseball. Everything like a baseball. His pops, his

889
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: pops is funny too. I spoke that barrow. You didn't

890
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: see that? Oh you didn't see that the vid? Yeah? Yeah,

891
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: after was it after the super Bowl? Damn arrow head, God,

892
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: damn barrel head. I'm smoking that barrel. I love that.

893
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: He seems like a character. Yeah, the ice cool, he

894
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: seems cool. Eagles one Mayweather McGregor fight. That was Did

895
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: you watch that? We in Brentwood? But oh, j God,

896
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: in prison? We are? Can we go see his house?

897
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: We can't after if you want, it's.

898
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: The juice real quick. I don't condone none of that craziness.

899
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 2: But the juice was loose when he got out of jail. Oh,

900
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: he's definitely loose out of jail.

901
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Though. My number was the first jersey he wore. Can

902
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: I brag about that? Or no? I mean, it is

903
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: the juice? Jack? Can he brag about that?

904
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: I mean, how many people can say that?

905
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: Is? You?

906
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: Guys ever meet?

907
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 1: We talked on We talked. I think we did talk before.

908
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, I don't really get talked too much.

909
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: He can't, you know what I mean. I don't know

910
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: I pissed him off. I might not even, but I

911
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: just want I was. I'm a fan of his football stuff.

912
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: The glove don't fit.

913
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: You must have quit for they said recipes Johnny Cochran, Dude,

914
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: he's safe up there.

915
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: That was insane, that whole thing.

916
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: Did you want watch the documentary? Yeah, there's like I've

917
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: watched them all. I remember it like it was yesterday.

918
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: It was. It was the ninety four or something. Did

919
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: he do it? Definitely did it? Didn't he? And my dog?

920
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean it? This is crazy, right, let's say it's

921
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: so ship Yeah yeah. So what we're doing in social

922
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: man social media in two thousand and seventeen, well we

923
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: got jack Man.

924
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: We were a couple of weeks before this game. They

925
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: announced we had the color rush going for for the Bills,

926
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: that all reds.

927
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: Those we're kind of fire.

928
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: And then uh afterwards, of course, to help the Bills

929
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 3: get in the playoffs, Andy Dalton beat the Ravens, wasn't it.

930
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: He did ra Yop Yop and his They saw some

931
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: on his money. What's it called like the gofund me?

932
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 3: That's right, but it raised like tons of money.

933
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. I thought she was about to put up

934
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: there about the the Avengers. Oh, we did justlide slide,

935
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: and we knew about that. You told everyone I followed you.

936
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I never watched the movie because you gave me the spot.

937
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: Knew what happened.

938
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: You gotta blame my eleven year old son, because you know,

939
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: first of all, I want to pole out to the

940
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: people out there.

941
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I take full accountability for that. I should

942
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: have known better.

943
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: But the thing is as accountable as a as an

944
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: all pro running back. I never just I wasn't big

945
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: on watching green monsters fight each other, but when I

946
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: was a kid, I did. I loved the Heart when

947
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: I was a kid. Woll Ring Spider Man when I

948
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: was a child.

949
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 3: Cool.

950
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: But as a daughter, I'm not watching that, but my

951
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: son does. And we have this thing where I treat

952
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: like an adult. Right, We have interviews, So I'm always like,

953
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: you need to communicate better, you know what I mean?

954
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: So why do you have bed there in school? And

955
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: I need him sit there and tell me why. So

956
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: we start doing that and it became an interview process.

957
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: And from so I have a bad game and my

958
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: son will be like, well, Dad, well what happened you

959
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: with the ball?

960
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: Like right? So we go to movies to do the

961
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: same thing. The thing is the movie was so such

962
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: a big movie.

963
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: So when when Iron Man dude died, it was like

964
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: an interview, like who man, how you feel about himdying?

965
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: And and that's how it happened, That's how the truth.

966
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: And then I tweeted about it. You know, so, but

967
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: you don't want to hear that. You don't care about

968
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: that you ruined. A lot of those people are probably

969
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: really mad about that.

970
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: People get mad about I've been in the grocery store.

971
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: I see an old, old lady or old man, and

972
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about talking about fantasy because you know, from

973
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: there's never been running back to have better numbers than

974
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: fantasy from twenty ten, from a one decade.

975
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: That's truth all decade tear. Yeah, right, So I'm thinking, oh, oh,

976
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: show you on my fantasy man. Oh, it cuts me.

977
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: You you spoiled in games. I'm like, oh, she's pussed man,

978
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Can I Can I pay for your groceries?

979
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You pay for a grocery Yeah,

980
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I respect my elders. He was

981
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: cussing me out? Was it he or she? She? And

982
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: hey they both did it before kids.

983
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: All type of kids parents. I'm thinking when Simon udograss,

984
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: they want to cuts me out of the Avengers. So

985
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: that was and I lost a lot of Alexis deal.

986
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: See this is hitting me deep. Now he lost money,

987
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: but residuals by Alexis Deal that they took from me

988
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: because I spoiled.

989
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: The end games. I'm thinking, like, damn Lexis. People they

990
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: y'all care about this big franchise it is.

991
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: I don't know's that's a big At the internet, you

992
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: had all the rocks if I did this for her

993
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: and it took it back and then I don't know

994
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: until next time.

995
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1003
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: Mean awful, awful year for the Colts four and twelve

1004
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 3: years about right? That sounds about we? I mean, LeJean,

1005
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: if you didn't know on this podcest we hate the Colts.

1006
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: On this podcast, we just had grond Con and he

1007
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: did not like the Colts. You don't. I wonder why

1008
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: you like your guys? Was like in competition or something

1009
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: of them.

1010
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: They're there because.

1011
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: They're the ones that did the Flake Gates stuff. Oh

1012
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: but well you guys do cheat. No, we don't jest,

1013
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: I got a story. What's your story? One time we're

1014
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: practicing for the playoffs? What team?

1015
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: One year we're in Tampa with a quarterback that you

1016
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: are familiar with, and we're practicing in uh.

1017
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: In times that hold up, we gotta stop. We can't.

1018
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: We can't do these plays right now.

1019
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: They're like, well, why not Look at all these windows

1020
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: out here, like these windows are people probably? We think

1021
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: like no, Like, man, no, they not listen. I'm telling y'all,

1022
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: people can be in these windows watching the practice. We

1023
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: can't do no more.

1024
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: So what we do.

1025
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: We had to take the practice in the in the indoor.

1026
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: So when when we're all hanging out like the Office

1027
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: of Players, some of the coaches we laughed at, were like, yo,

1028
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: there maybe some truth to that Patriot stuff, because out

1029
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: of everybody, it's freaking fifty three players and all the

1030
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: other coaches. Now one person anything about practicing outside of

1031
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But one man, you let me know what

1032
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: you think about that.

1033
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he knows that people may be out there

1034
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: doing that.

1035
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: You never know, you fellow, check and listen. But I

1036
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: will say this, it's growing up in the hood. If

1037
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: you're not cheating, you ain't trying, so I respect it.

1038
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: What do you there's no cheating?

1039
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, back to the coach, back to back

1040
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: to the coach. Baby. This was the last year. Well,

1041
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, last thing after that day.

1042
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 2: We've never had a practice outside of of the because

1043
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: it's so the outside practice field.

1044
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: It's like it was that a hotel or something. We

1045
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: never did it ever again. Let you know that Tommy

1046
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: said weed not going out there because anybody can watch.

1047
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: That just tells me that people that were in charge

1048
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: didn't have the right mindset and cheat. Man, Come on, now,

1049
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: come on, get out of here.

1050
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 3: This was the last year of Chuck Pegano and Indie.

1051
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: They got some notable names. This was Jacoby Brissett, Vinettieri,

1052
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: Darius Butler, t Y Hilton, Frank Gore, Frank.

1053
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: Gore beast notable names on the Indie only well he

1054
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: was a quarterback, starting quarterback for the game that we're

1055
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: about to dive into. I mean, okay, I.

1056
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 3: Guess Jacoby catching strays?

1057
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: No, Jacoby, who do we got out here? Let's should

1058
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: go to the bills. Let's go bill what we got bills?

1059
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: That's right? You see the boys, You see boys, you

1060
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: see he's right on top though. Number one, my boy,

1061
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: Tye ride you Gota Jones balling.

1062
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: You got Matt Milano. Matt Malana bought out yesterday. Mike

1063
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: Tobart was really good for the Panthers from Beast Peterman.

1064
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: He's from pit, your pit guy. Do you remember running

1065
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: back back in the day in Pennsylvania and Eugene Jarvis, Yes,

1066
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: that was my running back. He beat my ass one

1067
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: day in college like five foot six. He was truth though.

1068
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: He was the truth.

1069
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: We played him in So how about this that year

1070
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: you're talking about they won a championship.

1071
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: He played for Central Catholic.

1072
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all boys school. Anyway, we were top tartor we

1073
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 2: were top you know what I mean. I was averaging

1074
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: like three hundred dards a game. We played them.

1075
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: They shut me down and he went crazy and they

1076
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: beat us. He was a little monster. He was all right,

1077
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: Jackie will go back. Sorry you said, Pitt. I forgot

1078
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: to get that in.

1079
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: Oh, no, you're all good. I was going down a

1080
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 3: little bit of Central Catholic rabbit hole over here. First

1081
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: year of Sean McDermott and as Leshawn alluded to earlier,

1082
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 3: this was the year that snapped the eighteen year playoff

1083
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: drought for.

1084
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: The eighteen year because we're tough this year they were.

1085
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, didn't like playing the Bills, all right, you

1086
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: didn't like the Bills really.

1087
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: Nah, I mean you guys are always tough to play. Yeah,

1088
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: but it was I mean, if we lost, it was

1089
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: something we did. Yeah, that's true. That is I can't lie.

1090
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: You're right, right, you're right. They were always competitive and

1091
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: then you know at the by the time I left,

1092
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: you could see him getting better and better.

1093
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's different now. They can't wait to

1094
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: pay the Patriots. Now they can't wait like it was.

1095
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: You know, but it's kind of like this shady It's

1096
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, they're the big brothers in

1097
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: the division right now, right, big brothers. Yeah, they're like

1098
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: the big bro or like the little brother that gets

1099
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: his ass beat by the big bro all the time

1100
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: him now right, like kind of like that. But now

1101
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: like when we were the big brother we could go

1102
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: out and beat the ship of all the brothers, you know,

1103
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: Now we look at it at the Bills and we're like, man,

1104
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: our big brother just they can't he still can't beat

1105
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: up that one kid.

1106
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: I just I could never go against that because you

1107
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 2: guys were your big big brothers, like big big uncles.

1108
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: I can't you know, you're right. I just it don't matter.

1109
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't even matter. I don't even get into it.

1110
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: You're right, he's a little instigator, I can tell right now.

1111
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: Talking about what else, Jack, how was McDermott as a coach?

1112
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

1113
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: You know what?

1114
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: So I have a dermin in Philadelphia. He was the

1115
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: deepest coordinator. So you already know him. Good dude, good family,

1116
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: very smart, passionate. You know, everywhere he's been, he's been

1117
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: successful for a reason.

1118
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: Good coach. Can't say nothing bad about him? Yeah, what's he?

1119
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: What's he hurting over there? Right now? He's big on.

1120
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: He's big on, like fundamentally sound doing like because you

1121
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: can tell he must pull his hair out when he's bald.

1122
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: But like when josh A throws pick.

1123
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: He can't do anything about it this because like, you

1124
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 2: can't coach it, can't coach it because you talk about it, guys,

1125
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: they'll think about it. Yeah, and then it's see, I

1126
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: don't I mean some things. I feel like it's an attitude.

1127
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: So in a mindset where sometimes right, I didn't really

1128
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: fumble the ball. Really, that won't my thing, you know,

1129
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: But if I ever have a fumble, because I did,

1130
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: held the ball real, real loose, and it will be

1131
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: like it would be constant my head. So now when

1132
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: I'm playing and running, when I get close to some ship,

1133
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: I'm like boom.

1134
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: Right.

1135
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that with Josh that I can't

1136
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: figure out is like from office of corninators deepesst coordinators

1137
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: to coaches.

1138
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: To players you were, you would go to what you

1139
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: know best when you're more comfortable with.

1140
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: So we can't really change as much if deeps coordinator

1141
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: when it's the game's real tight and you have you

1142
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: gotta have this play, gotta have to stop.

1143
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna do what he's always done. Same was an

1144
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: offic coordinator.

1145
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 2: So my thing with Josh, I understand he plays reckless,

1146
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: but it gotta be a point where like, all right,

1147
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: I gotta be a little more cautious of.

1148
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: What I'm doing. I think he will. I mean someone's

1149
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: good that I don't think. I don't think he will.

1150
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: I just think he can do it a little bit right,

1151
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: almost change when you she's got to capture it in

1152
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: a bottle, man, fucking I don't know, I.

1153
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: Just like lightning.

1154
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 2: Like even some of the plays like yo, why why

1155
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: are you throwing this ball? There?

1156
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: He throws into team meetings. There is like when we

1157
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: were playing him at the end where like you can

1158
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: tell they were they were tough. I remember like eight

1159
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen. It was hard to beat those dudes, but

1160
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: we always counted on he was one. He's gonna give

1161
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: us one or two. Just don't turn the ball over.

1162
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. He's gonna give you five opportunities.

1163
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 2: I know, I know for really, and he's also gonna

1164
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: make these players that are gonna light you up. But

1165
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: there's gonna be that one, two, maybe three hours. It's

1166
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: like when he's like because even though when he threw

1167
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: the deep one the pick, he could get his ring

1168
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: that shit at the first dame why you?

1169
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: And then it's two deals on dig he's all mad

1170
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: and he's gotta he gotta show everyone why he's all Madden.

1171
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of losses. All right, let's do the

1172
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: game lead up with Jackie.

1173
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 3: Leading into this one, we already touched on the Colt's

1174
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 3: four game losing streak. They were in free fall, the

1175
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 3: Bills trying to end that playoff drought. Coming into this

1176
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: one with playoff hopes still alive.

1177
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1178
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: Nathan Peterman got his first home start this week. This

1179
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 3: is a couple of weeks after the infamous five interception game.

1180
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: Do you remember that one, Shady? Remember that it was

1181
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: out here in l A.

1182
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: Right, yes, one, two, three, four? I mean and didn't

1183
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: hold up.

1184
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: Even before the game started, Tyrod Taylor was doing solid, right,

1185
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: I mean, his best receiver was Calvin Benjamin.

1186
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: He just came in. He ain't even yeah, he's like

1187
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee. So he's like, you know what.

1188
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: He had a meeting with the captains. I'm a captain.

1189
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe it.

1190
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: I was a captain and he's like, hey, we're thinking

1191
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: about starting Tyrod, or we're think about starting Nadan Peterman

1192
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: I said, oh cool, cool, al right. So after the

1193
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: met and he said, how do you feel about that?

1194
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: I said, coach, I don't love it. Tyrod, I ain't

1195
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 2: been playing that bad. And you know Nate, Nate has

1196
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: looking great on scout team. Now he was killing a

1197
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: scout team though, like Tom Brady, you know, can't get

1198
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: hit in practice. He's I said, so why you I say, yeah,

1199
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: we still are in it a little bit. Why do

1200
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: you want to start him? He said, well, my thing

1201
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 2: is if we start him now, right, he's playing against

1202
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: the Chargers and at the time they were sharing the

1203
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:24,959
Speaker 2: stadium at.

1204
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: Like a little the small little stadium.

1205
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, it won't be loud, right, you know,

1206
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: so that won't affect him, and we get him in

1207
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: the hospital environment.

1208
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: A little bit.

1209
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: I said, that makes sense. I guess I get it,

1210
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's right. And sure enough we

1211
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: got in that first game. He didn't take this time

1212
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: to throw them picks. He got that ship out the

1213
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: way early one pick, two pick, next drive, then the

1214
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: third job.

1215
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: I think I did my thing. I scored the fourth

1216
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: another pick. I'm said, all right, coach, what the what

1217
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: we trying to? What we doing? The end of score

1218
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: was fifty four to twenty four. Got our ass kicked,

1219
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: and then went back to Tyrod.

1220
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: Then then went back I think went back to Tyroda.

1221
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: I had to. That's that's a tough when you're when

1222
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: you're pulling quarterbacks in the middle of seasons. It's hard

1223
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: to pull a quarterback because what's the psych he's gonna

1224
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: go when you go back to him, and Tyrone wasn't

1225
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: bad player as well. I like Tyr. I always liked Tyrod.

1226
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: I love Tyron. I don't know, he always got a

1227
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: bad he always got a bad like, like, what's his name?

1228
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: Herbert became the guy after they punctured along Josh Allen here,

1229
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: like he's always been the guy before that. Good luck, Chuck,

1230
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: I find your quarterback. You might you just get Tyrod

1231
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: in there? What what's his name? Uh?

1232
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones like why why why would I start him

1233
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: over a Tyrod?

1234
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm just because he just paid him or something. Before that,

1235
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 1: Jones was like, he is so regular. Yeah, it's tough.

1236
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: I can't defend it. I don't want to defend it.

1237
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: But the elephant in the room leading up to this

1238
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: game the weather, Yeah it was.

1239
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: It was ugly.

1240
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: It was snow. Team point seven inches of snow didn't

1241
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: stop the entire game. Nine inches during the game.

1242
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Nine inches as buffet is crazy. I said, boys, let

1243
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: me get the rock. I got you. You said that

1244
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: pre game, Yeah, get the rock in front of the

1245
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: whole team, the pregame team.

1246
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: Where is that to the offense of boys, let me

1247
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: get the rock.

1248
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: It was a cool game. The cool thing about the snow.

1249
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 2: What people don't understand is that I love it so

1250
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: much because when I get tackled, it's like fall on pillows.

1251
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the big fat dudes hit me. It don't hurt.

1252
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: Think about that hurt and they can't get attraction. But

1253
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: I can sign me up. It's an advent.

1254
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: I always played well on the snow as well as

1255
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: a house to punt in Chicago in the snow. Did

1256
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: you did you play any like like college games and so, yeah,

1257
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois.

1258
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: I went to schooling in Ohio, Kent State. Knew. I

1259
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: knew that because that's where dream was. But we didn't play,

1260
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, usually got to play deep into the season

1261
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: to get the we were done.

1262
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: So you play quarterback too, right, Yeah, you can throw

1263
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: that thing kind of not really, So what top quarterback was?

1264
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: I was like a running quarter I mean I ran

1265
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: for like fifteen hundred yards at three for like nineteen

1266
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: hundred yards my senior year.

1267
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: I could run it. It was me and Eugene. It

1268
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: was me and Eugene did like we had a little

1269
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: read in there and then we had a little play

1270
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: actions spread. We had like a West Coast spread offense

1271
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: with Doug Martin who had Doug Marton. Yeah, he had

1272
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: uh Matt Ryan at BC, so we used to watch

1273
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: it like the years before. But yeah, I have to

1274
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: take off and run that. Let's know how smart it is.

1275
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: So you play quarterback?

1276
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah that I could have had more yards.

1277
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: They gave all these other guys my carries. Why do

1278
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: you want thirty two carries?

1279
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: Thirty two that's your career high. Yeah, but look you

1280
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: don't feel it though. You see what I'm saying. You

1281
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: don't hate me hard. Yeah. Yeah, it's like you're gonna

1282
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: slow because of the weather.

1283
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 2: It's like when you drive, you ain't gonna gonna slow,

1284
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: and then when you slam me, we're falling on some

1285
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: snow man, and you're sliding.

1286
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: The only thing about this game it was it was

1287
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: a lot colder than the game I had in Philadelphia.

1288
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: So in between the TV timeouts or like, let's take

1289
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: it the first down, if I round the bounds, I'm

1290
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: taking the first playoff.

1291
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to the heater to put my hands in there,

1292
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: and then second thing, I'm coming back. This game was

1293
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: cold as hell, and sometimes the snow it's not as cold,

1294
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: but this is like Buffalo is a whole different beast

1295
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: because like the snow. Usually it's probably like in the

1296
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: low thirties, high twenties, you get your cold games when

1297
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: it's fucking clear and there's you know what I mean,

1298
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: it's like freezing the hands. You gotta keep the hands

1299
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: and feet. That's everything else will be all right.

1300
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: Speaking of hands, that catch you having the Super Bowl

1301
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: that was badass, Bro's that's that's concentration.

1302
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just hoping. I ran a shitty route.

1303
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: We were tired. It was like our ninetieth play, and

1304
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: we play a lot of plays that game, and like

1305
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: I had a middle read and I knew Tom was

1306
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna come to me because we were hitting it all

1307
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: week in practice, and that's usually it goes. You hit

1308
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: him practice and we gotta go to it. We gotta

1309
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: go to it. And I was routing. I was running

1310
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: it good on the route, but I was tired. I

1311
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: banana my route. And the worst thing you see in

1312
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: a split safety man middle read is a dB that

1313
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: turns his eye back to the ball. He usually gonna

1314
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: pick because that's a twenty two yard throw, you know

1315
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, where they're gonna put it on a

1316
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: line when he tired, You're like, fuck, I'm sitting there.

1317
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: So I put the brake on and I dove in

1318
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: there just to try to knock it out. And one

1319
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: thing led to another, and I just that was my

1320
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: number one thing. Just found it. Don't let it get picked,

1321
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, just do anything. And then it it came.

1322
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: I think it has to do with I did a

1323
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: lot of tennis ball drills so to have like read

1324
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: for my right green with my left and like you

1325
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: have to throw it over the shoulder, and I do

1326
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: it like every day, just the one with my eyes

1327
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: for practice, you know, or I wouldn't focus. I got

1328
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: really bad add so I always had to do things

1329
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: in order to keep me busy. So it'd always come

1330
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: up with these crazy drills before work. And I think

1331
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: probably had something to do with that, right, Like, you

1332
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: can't like, fucking it's great, you can't claim that catch.

1333
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't watch the game until so I

1334
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: landed and it was the square half time? Was it

1335
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: twenty eight or twenty one three?

1336
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: Right, something like that, three and a half. And then

1337
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: I said, Yo, the Patriot's gonna come back when this game.

1338
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, bro, I'm telling you, and that's.

1339
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: What y'all did.

1340
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: It was nuts because say I play all twice a year,

1341
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: so I know that ain't nothing. If y'all don't put

1342
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: them away, they gonna win.

1343
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1344
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 2: Not the coaching, you know, you know the number wasn't it,

1345
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: But a lot of things always you know, the defense

1346
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: always made a big play.

1347
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: You know that there was always something we always had

1348
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: like a crazy like special teams play that, Like there

1349
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: was always someone that made a play. Anyone who had

1350
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: to make a play made a play.

1351
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm like this because I played the Patriots so much.

1352
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: I remember me and Rex Ryan like if they don't

1353
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 2: have time, Brady not the same team. Like even on

1354
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 2: doing this, I never was like nervous to play off.

1355
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: There's some teams I never was nervous to play, but

1356
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 2: just like, oh we gotta play them this week. All right,

1357
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: let me let's get together. We're like the Patrick have

1358
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: two three good players on defense, right, Like like Jamie

1359
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: they had a fifty four.

1360
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: Tower was good, but you always had you had role

1361
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: guys like Nikovich that knew how to set like they

1362
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: did their job. They would set their edge and like

1363
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 1: you couldn't run. He did his job. You wouldn't past

1364
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: and then you have on He was just okay, we

1365
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: had fifty six sacks. He was okay, I ain't gonna act,

1366
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, like on tape. We ain't trying to where's

1367
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: fifty at fifty? Right? Yeah, yeah, we're not worry about

1368
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: where where fifty's at.

1369
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: Certain players they had on their it was like they

1370
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: was okay, but but they they'd let you go up

1371
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: and down the field.

1372
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: With yards, but in the red zone they cracked down.

1373
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: That's one thing I will say then, but don't break

1374
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: who want them to throw an interception? Let them, let

1375
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: them beat themselves. But then tighten it up in the.

1376
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: Red because we get three points, y'all gonna get seven.

1377
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: That shit starts tiling up. Or you're gonna make a mistake.

1378
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah that's I mean, that's that's literally what was coached.

1379
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 2: Let them make a mistake. I just just play fundamental football.

1380
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean we both see it different ways. Yeah,

1381
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: I think we see it the same. He's so Frank

1382
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: gorege legacy or longevity. What do we got here?

1383
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: This was a battle between I mean you could go

1384
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 3: battle between the backs because they were passing much in

1385
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: the snow. What was What was that like going up

1386
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: against Frank Gore?

1387
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: Did you had to like pre pregame do you you

1388
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: ever say like who's the other? And in back you're like,

1389
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: let me let me so Frank one of my best friends.

1390
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: I thought, Frank.

1391
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: Week, that's my guy. He kind of like helped me

1392
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: to be better professional. You know, I would be training

1393
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. We've trained together in Miami and uh,

1394
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: he had a name, It's Frank Gore. By the way,

1395
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 2: we go back so far because in college, my brother

1396
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: played for the Niners and uh and Frank Gore's I

1397
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: think it was his agent.

1398
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: Or that's your brother. Who's your real name? Loron McCoy

1399
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: he played years ago, you know, players ago. I was

1400
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: a Niners fan. But he he ain't do nothing like

1401
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: that for you to know. You don't know.

1402
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 2: He played for Arizona the Niners in the Texans. But anyway,

1403
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: we went to Frank gors house and I was like,

1404
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: Dahul come out of college. He's like, yeah, man, get

1405
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: to get out of there, go to the NFL. That's

1406
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: how I met him. So fast forward we get to

1407
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: the league. He's trained in Miami. His agent Drogs House,

1408
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: my age Draws house. So we start training together and

1409
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 2: I was like, man, my feet were bearing his ship.

1410
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: Right.

1411
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm still younger though, but he was helping me get

1412
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: better and better and better because I didn't really train

1413
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: super hard after I arrived.

1414
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: It's just easy, like I ain't let no weights.

1415
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: But I would be in Vegas partying and Frankibe training

1416
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: where you at, man, get your ass here.

1417
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm think like, damn shout, I'm staying Vegas, go work out.

1418
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: And I would go work out because Frank would call me.

1419
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: He was older than me, and he kind of helped

1420
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: me to be a professional man, you know, And that's

1421
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: how we became real real friends. So so so I

1422
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: never really like now there's other backs that I go

1423
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: to defense a y'all listen, they need to shut him down.

1424
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: Oh he's put me on the spot. He did just

1425
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: say that.

1426
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, one time is DeMarco Murray and at

1427
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: the time, this is the year that he had a

1428
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: really good year. Now we wasn't close as far as

1429
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 2: bringing backs, but he's had a really good year. I

1430
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: was like, I finished third, I think he was first,

1431
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: And uh, I said, hey, man, I'm trying to get

1432
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 2: this title again, right, rushing title. Make sure him get

1433
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: on yards, this and that, y'all shut him down. I

1434
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: got some money for your boys, you know. And guess

1435
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: what happened. They ain't shut him down. They ain't shut

1436
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: shit it down.

1437
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: He got busy and they beat us. And the last

1438
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: one was Adrian Pearson. Just because the pregame speeches defense.

1439
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: See this is way different from that that Patriots. Right,

1440
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about yards and you know what I mean?

1441
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: They thinking about wins.

1442
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: I never heard anything. Yo, I have time. I'll be

1443
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: checking my stats. Damn he got that many yards. Damn

1444
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Doing this passive passion to

1445
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: the defense. You y'are gonna play what like? You know

1446
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1447
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: Adrian Pierce is another one, though, that's because he was

1448
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 2: so great.

1449
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: He's my favorite. He's one of my favorit running back violent.

1450
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: I think he's the best. I think he's the best

1451
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: back of all time. Bro what Barry Sayers is.

1452
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 2: But he's ap is the most complete like back's big, strong,

1453
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: can shakey when you pass you. He can't really catch

1454
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: or block, But all the other sudden that don't matter.

1455
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 2: The other stuff is back traditional just you know, God gifted.

1456
01:07:58,320 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: That's one. That's the only guy. I can say.

1457
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: Him and Barry they're probably better than me. All the

1458
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: mother dudes on how many yards they got, stats, they got, teams,

1459
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: they got Dan Dang. You know it's my opinion.

1460
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: Hey, I mean, you've seen a lot of football and

1461
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: you've ran a lot of yards in football.

1462
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: Because I don't be on these great teams, like come on, bro,

1463
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: like Charle Davis. I think he was good, but he ain't.

1464
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Edgrian and James another one. They

1465
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: play on these great teams. If I told you to

1466
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: make a games, who's your favorite?

1467
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: You like them? How we played them? Line? Watch this,

1468
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: who's your favorite team? As a kid? Like you notice team?

1469
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: So if I say, yo, give me your all time

1470
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: Niners offense? Who Jo wont Hana is a quarterback? Jerry

1471
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: Jared and wide receivers. On the other side, you got

1472
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,560
Speaker 2: Ricky Waters or you go with Frank gorson running.

1473
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: Back right, Brent Jones?

1474
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 2: It come on now, if I say, yo, give me,

1475
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: if I told you this, give me the all time

1476
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: Holt's offense. Who you're gonna say Edge James are running back?

1477
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: It's kind of like Pro Bowl voting.

1478
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 2: But hold, let's do it for a secondough, real quick,

1479
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: take some seconds. Edge James are running back.

1480
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone else you do. Peyton Manning at quarterback. Oh,

1481
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about I thought you're going to here. Reggie

1482
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: Reggie Wae at wide receiver, Marverin Harrison, marn Harrison. You

1483
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: know I was his team, right, That's the team he

1484
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: played on every year. That's a team. And then soon

1485
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: you leave.

1486
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: So when you leave as an edging, the backup is

1487
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 2: the same ship you do. Who Joseph Hauld died from LSU?

1488
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: Do you get what I'm saying. I'm gonna help you out.

1489
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: My biggest years where I played the most football at

1490
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: was the Eagles. Since I've left, they finally had a

1491
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: one thousand yeard rusher with Mile Sanders.

1492
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: Last year they got rid of him. I said, we

1493
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: can't have this guy coming close to numbers.

1494
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 2: That's not he's been there for like four years. He's

1495
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: been for four years. He had one thousand yards.

1496
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: It's good.

1497
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 2: He's a good player, though. Thousand like non Ndred thousand,

1498
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: eleven hundred whatever, that's cool. The Bills, they still haven't

1499
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: had a thousand dard rusher. So my thing is, what

1500
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 2: is your real impact? If it's a good of a player,

1501
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: soon you leave the backup of the same thing. Na,

1502
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: how good are you really?

1503
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, but what if

1504
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: they let's go what you what if the teams because

1505
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: they had such a dominant back, they were like running

1506
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: the ball. They had such the offense was built around

1507
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: the running back. Good, great, right, great question, And then

1508
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they could just couldn't win the

1509
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 1: super Bowl. They couldn't get to the super Bowl.

1510
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: So they're like, fuck it, we're gonna We're getting rid

1511
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: of running back. We already had that insane running back.

1512
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: We want to we gotta we gotta evolve to what

1513
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: everyone else is that Maybe that someone can say that

1514
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: sort of coats So I told you that. I don't

1515
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: know if you heard me. They had Peyton Manning. Yeah.

1516
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: So when we go into the game, who who do

1517
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: you think we trying to stop? You think be about

1518
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 2: to pack the line of scrimmage up to stop Zwen James?

1519
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: Are we gonna stop paymin in that passing game?

1520
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? Make him one dimensional? He stopped the run noways okay,

1521
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: all right, Well if you think that that's cool, I

1522
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 1: just you got it.

1523
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 2: Everything comes off the run game, whether you have one

1524
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: or not, I mean depends on I mean, I hear that.

1525
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 2: But then like there's some things that we throw the ball.

1526
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: We just we're throwing the ball. I personally haven't had

1527
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: a lot of open boxes running the ball.

1528
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: No you didn't. But what I'm saying is if I

1529
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: had a Pagan, I'm damn sure you know what I'm saying.

1530
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no one put No one put Eggar and

1531
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: James in all time. Great, he's Hall of Famer. You

1532
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 2: talk about Hall of Fame backs, right the difen you

1533
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: want it? This you asked for so were going to

1534
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 2: some of these these Hall of fame.

1535
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: Running James Hall of Fame.

1536
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 2: He had a lot of yards though, didn't he He

1537
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: had a lot of carries too. See that's impressive though

1538
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: a lot of probably was healthy too. That's the thing

1539
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: about running backs. He had a lot of three hundred yards,

1540
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 2: three hundred carriers. I've only had one. That's impressive.

1541
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: A lot of guys get hurt, and we're seeing it

1542
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: right now. Guys came running the ball, like what's the

1543
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: number now, I don't know. They're saying every it's like

1544
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty snaps for running back. They're like,

1545
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: if they play that or they have those carries, they're

1546
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: like going to get hurt. That's what the analytics team is. Well,

1547
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. So when you see a guy that

1548
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: can do it repetively, like that's why Frank Gore was

1549
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: crazy to me, Like that dude carried the ball so much. Longevity.

1550
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: Longevity is huge in running back.

1551
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: But there's nobody that blocks Burn and Frank Gore. There's

1552
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: nobody that plays in the between the tackles. Bro he

1553
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: got good eyes downhill and he's always leaning forward. I've

1554
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: never seen my better than him at that.

1555
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: Now can He makes the right read always, and he

1556
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: knows how to manipulate blocks the double teams because they

1557
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: always had the double teams with them big boys out,

1558
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, and he and you'll see a lot of

1559
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: like really, like that's the difference between a pro back

1560
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: and a college back. College backs can get away with

1561
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: not making the right lead in the defense. Yeah, they

1562
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: can run through arm tackles and stuff. When you get

1563
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: to the league, it's like there's a track that you

1564
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: have to run because of how the blocking schemes are.

1565
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that until I got to the NFL,

1566
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: because I was like, this guy's gonna be hellogad we gotto.

1567
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: And then you see that he makes the cut, you know,

1568
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: three three steps to too early, and the guy sheds

1569
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 1: off the block.

1570
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 2: And that's that's one of the young The hardest thing

1571
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: is damn patient, there's a whole minute, no more.

1572
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, come off his heels. They always say, come off

1573
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: his ass. Pause. I always say, coach a pause, dude,

1574
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: I pause. A lot of the stuff coach be saying,

1575
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: coach saying, how how insane was it? That vinitary same

1576
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: vinitaria that won Super Bowls with the Patriots kicking and

1577
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, snowstorms, they clear out the thing, they clear

1578
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: it out, They cleared out the pathway for him to kick.

1579
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: Make it. He made it to go. Remember it was

1580
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: nerved in remember Kobe he they had the two point conversion,

1581
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: but there was a pick play, which it was oh yeah,

1582
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, yeah yeah, And then they went

1583
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: back and it was like a forty three yard fucking

1584
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: extra point in a snow condition to go to overtime.

1585
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point because he I mean I

1586
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: remember that. Yeah, and then he had a shot to

1587
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: win it and he and he missed it. He had

1588
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: the same kind of the hook that was like a

1589
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: boomerang that thing.

1590
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: He yeah, he won that good. So we weren't surprised

1591
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: about him, you know, not completing military Oh oh oh, yeah,

1592
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: he had a chance of winning too.

1593
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: That's true.

1594
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: He's a good backup quarterback. Let me think he's won games.

1595
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: Oh you played with him the Patriots too.

1596
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Jakoby, but he's a good backup quarterback

1597
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: and he's tough. I beat the Patriots one time. Tom

1598
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: won a quarterback. You know it was Jacoby were set

1599
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: talk to your boy. I remember that, but he was

1600
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: gone awful, but they whatever from I would never beat

1601
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots.

1602
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: I think you got to. You got one in Kansas City,

1603
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 3: won in Buffalo Patriots.

1604
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking about the h I was thinking about

1605
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: the suspension year twenty sixteen. Walk us through your game

1606
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: winning run. It's a play call. Yeah, I can't remember

1607
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: what was the gap scheme was the zone? It looked

1608
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: like it was a lot of down.

1609
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: I want to say a power because I think Richie

1610
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,879
Speaker 2: Ower Cognito blocked Ritchie and Cognito.

1611
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: I love him. I love Richie. I used to train

1612
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: with him out here. This might be this double block

1613
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 1: web under center.

1614
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, look at Richie right there on the second levels.

1615
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: Trying to night good night.

1616
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: So hey, how about at the end of this I

1617
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: couldn't breathe. They everybody tapped me into the snow. I'm thinking, like, yo, bro,

1618
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: it's the snow down here, and it was it was

1619
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 2: high yeah to be there, but no, it's like under

1620
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 2: a dog pile.

1621
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: There's always one kid that is.

1622
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: Like bro, I was painting, like yo, yo, I can't

1623
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: breathe down here, like yo, claustrophobic, fat line and three

1624
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: and they're celebrated so they think everything's fun and I'm

1625
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: probably like two of weight.

1626
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: At the time. That's my favorite dog right now? Does

1627
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: he shed a lot or know?

1628
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: Zero really is an Australian labbordod though, that's oh wow,

1629
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't shed at all.

1630
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: Buddy, Hello, Joe Dirt Mullet. So the aftermath of this game,

1631
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: after you're insane, walk off, you guys just straight mudding.

1632
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: That's mudd and football right there. And Jady has proven

1633
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: to be a mudd and running back because you have

1634
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 1: such I feel like it's because you have great balance,

1635
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: you keep your you don't ever get outside your base.

1636
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: You know a lot of that's that's what a lot

1637
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: of guy. That's how you get hurt. And that's be

1638
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: how you slip. Usually when guys are slipping there outside

1639
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: of the base. You have such a wide frame, you

1640
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: have white feet. You always cut off the inside part

1641
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: of your foot, You know what I mean? Guys try

1642
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: to cheat that. You should be a coach. You know

1643
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: that was pretty good. But it's true, is it not.

1644
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't know it is. I never thought about that.

1645
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: I just be doing that ship. So it's how you're built.

1646
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: It's the inside of my plone. You want to you

1647
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: always off the inside part of your outside foot. So

1648
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: like whenever we used to have the first day of

1649
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: rain practice, we'd always practice outside on the grass. Guys,

1650
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: you can you can cheat like regular grass or turf.

1651
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: You can't cheat a wet surface. And it's because you're

1652
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: cutting weird or you're cutting different. You cut off the

1653
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: inside this part instead of just learn something today.

1654
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 3: First of all, you must have learned that from a

1655
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 3: good coach or great I don't know. Maybe the best

1656
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 3: coach of all time.

1657
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy, this guy Bill Belichick versus

1658
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. Wow, what what's Bill Belichick versus Andy Reid?

1659
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: Where's that? What's the stats?

1660
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: Bill's got him six and three all time six and three.

1661
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: That's it, three rings, as we alluded to.

1662
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: But this is a bit like, come on, man, it

1663
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: is what it is. Anybody had Tommy winning championship. That's true,

1664
01:17:59,120 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: he drafted.

1665
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't like to do this with with Bill because

1666
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: I respect him, so I ain't gonna do that. But

1667
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: he can't touch Andy Reid.

1668
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: He can't.

1669
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 2: You drop them dudes to any different team, and he's

1670
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: gonna out do him.

1671
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: You know that.

1672
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: Tom Brady freaking shooting threes, jump shots. He out the league,

1673
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 2: he coming back. You put Andy wherever Bill's at, he

1674
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: gonna win.

1675
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: I think it was in the same division. He will

1676
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: scrape him. You know it. With Patrick Mahomes right now,

1677
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: it would be very tough. I'm saying, no, any team.

1678
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't think that. Sole Master.

1679
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: Just you think that if right now today Andy Reid

1680
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: was on the Patriots, would it be better or would

1681
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: it be like they are now?

1682
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: They'd be built differently, or would they be better or.

1683
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: They like the same like they are now? Whatever, better records?

1684
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: How about that, let's just same teams and all same players,

1685
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: same everything.

1686
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: What you think? Remember we were talking about this and

1687
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: we talked about time management. We talked about that time

1688
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: management stuff. You keep saying that he only had like

1689
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: a year or two.

1690
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: He has bad time manage and you keep saying that

1691
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: he had some really came out last week last we win.

1692
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: Didn't he do something last week? Let's make this up? No,

1693
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 1: I put it. I put it in my notes. I

1694
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 1: was watching. I was literally watching, was like, this is

1695
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 1: exactly what I was saying. The shady he had something,

1696
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 1: he's smart guards. They're both very good. But I mean

1697
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: you had to still kiss the rings. Yeah, I mean,

1698
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: but like you had the equalizer, And we're going to

1699
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: see with an equalizing type quarterback, what Andy Reid can

1700
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: pump out about the watch. We're about to see if

1701
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 1: they don't get six one thing you said earlier though,

1702
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: if they don't get six, because it's hard to do

1703
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: it and continually, like he's got one generation of team

1704
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: to continually do it with different generations. That's what we're

1705
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 1: going to see one thing you said that was false.

1706
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 2: You said that the Patriots, you know, I was hard

1707
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 2: to win because they had the money issues, have a

1708
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: lot of money issues. Yeah, y'all never paid players that

1709
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 2: are true value.

1710
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: With the point. Wow, I'll give you that. They don't

1711
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: pay their homegrown but they they they had.

1712
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: The number one excuse when you when you when when

1713
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: I would go to Bill and I would say, hey,

1714
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: I want this, he would say.

1715
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: How am I gonna give you that? When I give

1716
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: Brady this? You know what I mean?

1717
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 2: Because he never made me at the top of the

1718
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 2: market like he's supposed to. Brady, So when your quarterback

1719
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: is not making the maximum like he's posted, and then

1720
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: everyone's got a fall in line, not even not even

1721
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: fall line park, but there's more money to Yeah, that's so.

1722
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: But if if you look at how a team's built,

1723
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: we always had the more. There's like usually teams are

1724
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: built with like three Back when we were playing, there'd

1725
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: be like three dudes making upper echelon money, like big money,

1726
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: and then there'd be like five dudes making that middle tier,

1727
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: and then everyone else would be in that minimum. Ours

1728
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: would be like Tom would be barely making that. We'd

1729
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: have in that second thing, we'd have probably like eleven

1730
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: of those types of guys if you like look at

1731
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: it like per like that's how the team was always built.

1732
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying that when other teams, when a quarterback gets

1733
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: that big lump sum, it's hard to get eleven guys

1734
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: even do that, it's hard to get That's so, yeah,

1735
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: didn't really have a lot of money issues because your

1736
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: top dude wasn't taking the money.

1737
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were also go look at what they

1738
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 1: were doing with like the Tom never played in until

1739
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: like the back end of his contract. He always renegotiate.

1740
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: But what I get that part. So then like it

1741
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: didn't look but like old Brady, how much did he make.

1742
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to count no one's chess joker made

1743
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I mean you're talking about his career. Yeah,

1744
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: he's played for twenty some seasons.

1745
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but dudes like like Eli dudes, like Big Ben

1746
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: dudes like paying like them dudes is cashing out at

1747
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 2: the top of the mine.

1748
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: Will get Sarry Rodgers. I will give you this argument,

1749
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 1: they didn't pay very well. You can't give me this

1750
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: is what it is.

1751
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: So my thing is I'm saying that when you talking

1752
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: about having a rosters get broken in the NFL because

1753
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: of money, quarterback takes all the money.

1754
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 1: I take that money. I had played for the memory,

1755
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 1: the money I played for the memories, pay for the memories,

1756
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: had a lot of memories. Was getting pad the top

1757
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: of the market. So like he's taking the money, you

1758
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: can't build on that team. I don't matter. All I'm

1759
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 1: saying is.

1760
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 2: Belichick is a good coach. I guess and Aaron or

1761
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: Andy I ricked out of Indy you should. I mean

1762
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 2: every time we played him though we went into Kansas City,

1763
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 2: we were the old team, they were the young good

1764
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: in time twelve twelve?

1765
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: What else we got? The new rule added to this game.

1766
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: Only players on the field can clear the spot for

1767
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: the kicker because pre field goal kick. In this Vinetaria

1768
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 1: had the whole They had the whole team. The Bills

1769
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: had the whole team out there. That's in Indy, Indy

1770
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: did that's true? That is true that everybody digging up

1771
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: the snow.

1772
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 3: And now that said, the only guys on the field

1773
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:58,879
Speaker 3: can help. Can't have the whole bench.

1774
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: Over there, So we scrimmage in the Patriots, I forget

1775
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: what year it is. I was with the Eagles, remember that,

1776
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: And now we were beating you all real good in practice.

1777
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: That was in the game, y'all beat the s off

1778
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 2: as though. That was in thirteen thirteen. And I remember.

1779
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 1: You had a bad practicing bills after practice over he

1780
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: go to the hell. I'm like, damn, they ain't punished

1781
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,600
Speaker 1: for not having a good practice. And it went to

1782
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: the hill. It was run up and down the hill. Yeah,

1783
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm there. That was That was like high school shit.

1784
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: That was crazy. That wasn't punishment. That was just us.

1785
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh we ran always after especially if we were joint practices,

1786
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: they would always run us. So they show the other

1787
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: coaching staff, you know, like hey, that's we get our pictures.

1788
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: This is our guys. We're getting right now. You know

1789
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: how many games we won where we were just in

1790
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: better shape than guys because guys at the end of

1791
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: the game like are off. Like we never had any

1792
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: big name offensive line guys that everyone always says, right,

1793
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 1: but our guys were rad smart. They were always in

1794
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: insane condition, and they played well together. And you'd play

1795
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: these like really explosive defensive lines and like we would

1796
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: slow them down a by going Noah, huddle, let them

1797
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: run trap a person up group in there, and b

1798
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: we just run the ball down the throat and then

1799
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: they would break by the end because teams aren't. We're

1800
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: never like even close to as good as shape. I

1801
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: agree with that.

1802
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 2: You guys are really disciplined. That's one thing I do

1803
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 2: give him credit. He was a disciplined coach man. The

1804
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: players was all smart. You guys in beach'll sales. That's

1805
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 2: that's what the Patriott is, right. I don't know what's

1806
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 2: the Patriot way.

1807
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought the Patriot was just having

1808
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I thought it was because they don't see

1809
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: that shit no more, no more. They ready ain't ready.

1810
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: But Tom was able to tart new story. Is this

1811
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: the best snow game of all time?

1812
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 2: No?

1813
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: What was you had another? You had another good one?

1814
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 1: I had twenty yards in the snow before. But before

1815
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: this or after before? What was you were with Philly?

1816
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: Who did you play Detroit? Detroit?

1817
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 2: You never seen that game? That mega Tronie always show

1818
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: he has all the snow on his helmet.

1819
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: That's that's the game. I think that's the game. This

1820
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: is two hundred and then what was this one forty

1821
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 1: do you have one? Forty one fifty?

1822
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 3: I believe so?

1823
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: Are you the the greatest snow running back of all time? Sorry,

1824
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know other facts

1825
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: that's playing this thow.

1826
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 3: You know I'm gonna say yes.

1827
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying yes. It's not a bad answer. It's not

1828
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: a bad answer. Now, guys, I don't know. I'm a

1829
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: humble guy. Man'm humble. Come on, now, you know you

1830
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: just turned into a Patriot right now? That's right? Is

1831
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: this having to be on the team? You know? Just

1832
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 1: thank thank you, Patriot. It's a got the Patriots.

1833
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 3: I did to do it right, Jack, Nah, we're we're

1834
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 3: pretty clean.

1835
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: But uh.

1836
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 3: I was looking through a couple other great snow games

1837
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 3: at the Rule game, the leon Let game on Thanksgiving

1838
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 3: Day in ninety three, the Snowplow Game seventy two Patriots

1839
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 3: Dolphins speaking of clearing spots for the kickers. Just to

1840
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 3: dame a few one other, one other question. I'd be

1841
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 3: remissed if I didn't get to ask Shady. I got

1842
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty one interview here when asked if Jules

1843
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 3: is a Hall of Famer, he said, nah, come on, man,

1844
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: do you do you stay by that point.

1845
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean I think I told

1846
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: you I think he was a hell of a player.

1847
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 2: See, this is what I don't like about these interviews though,

1848
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: right because I'm I'm I told you, I'm.

1849
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 1: Real, raw and just authentic. He's unfiltered.

1850
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 2: So the thing is, they asked me this whole question,

1851
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 2: and it was it was it was because it was

1852
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: thinking of the media about him in the Hall.

1853
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: Of Fame, and I was like, damn, I was like,

1854
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: he was nice and ship he was off. He was nice.

1855
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know about hall of Fame. Like

1856
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 2: hall of fame, he got real own ones, you got

1857
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 2: all these rainy all these all these big ass numbers.

1858
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 2: They didn't talk about that. The only thing they said

1859
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 2: is Shady said it that you're not a Hall of Famer.

1860
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 2: And I remember Brandon was like, I said, damn, you

1861
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 2: think you was ain't gonna fuck with me or excuse me,

1862
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: you think you're gonna be cool with me because I

1863
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: said that, And it was more like it was an

1864
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 2: old interview of telling him about it, and I said,

1865
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 2: I didn't say it that way, but the media only

1866
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: took out Yeah, I don't I don't care but I mean,

1867
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: like opinion I'm saying, like I didn't say anything crazy.

1868
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 3: I am trying to put anybody.

1869
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 1: Yeah you said you ask question answer, I'm not. It wasn't.

1870
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 2: But to tell you to your face, it wasn't like

1871
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,719
Speaker 2: a disc because I before I even gave it, Anti,

1872
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: I gave you praise because I watched you play like that.

1873
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 2: He nice, like you know, but it was like hall

1874
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: of Fame, Like there's a lot of Hall of Fame

1875
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: receivers that got crazy ass right yeah yeah, well, hollymy

1876
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: tell me.

1877
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: How you feel about that when you when you read it,

1878
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 1: how'd you feel about it? I don't really remember it

1879
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:05,560
Speaker 1: like that like off the top, Like I wasn't like like,

1880
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: oh what is like nah?

1881
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 2: Because they just twisted though, so it seemed like it

1882
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: was honestly you know, and they wreted me names.

1883
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: That's another thing they did.

1884
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 2: There's going on to players, and I was like, I

1885
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 2: was like, well, I mean, don't respect you, dog, but

1886
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: Brandy Moss is like Brandie is probably top ten player ever,

1887
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: you know what you know what I'm saying. So I'm like,

1888
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 2: come on, we what were talking about right now?

1889
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: Like it was not that I feel that he's raw

1890
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: at least at least still save to your face. Guy. No,

1891
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: but see I'm because it don't come from a malicious

1892
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: at all. Delicious. No, we're just talking the ball, you

1893
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But if they asked for you

1894
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: a good player, I said, damn right, is it a baller?

1895
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: Dam right? I took on my team? Real, rat, I

1896
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: take you on my team. You know what I'm saying.

1897
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: For real, I would take that. That's a funny question though. Yeah.

1898
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: So we have this, we have this thing where we

1899
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 1: score the game and it's presented by win Bet. Of course.

1900
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 1: Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it? Steaks?

1901
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: What are the stakes of this game? Zero out of

1902
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 1: ten steaks? Yeah, steaks six? Not the best game of

1903
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: all time? No, Yeah, that's that's that's pretty good. Star power.

1904
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Uh and won a lot of start

1905
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: with me, Frank and who else?

1906
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissette, Nathan Peterman, Jacoby.

1907
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Like about a three three? Let's do it on two stars?

1908
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,919
Speaker 1: Only two stars of the whole game. That's two? Come on? Gameplay?

1909
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Just like how the game went

1910
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 1: is back and forth.

1911
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: The game was fun, though, I would say that, so

1912
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a ten.

1913
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: Ten.

1914
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking like that, like it was a fun game.

1915
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 2: The snow all days, like we punt. It was so

1916
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 2: many punts.

1917
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. It was like a

1918
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: lot of it was passing that was like catching it

1919
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: and he dropping it. It was a lot of crazy.

1920
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: It was a fun game. We'll give it a ten.

1921
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 1: The name, So, what's the name of the game. Is

1922
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: it the Snowball? Is it the snow over Time? Is

1923
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:12,879
Speaker 1: it the Buffalo Blizzard?

1924
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 2: Oh?

1925
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: That sounds the Buffalo Blizzard. That sound dope.

1926
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 3: It sounds like a good dairy queen. Itam too.

1927
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go to to night. Oh, I'm gonna die.

1928
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: Gotta get worked out. Last day I just started working

1929
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: on again. I was game. I'm like, damn getting bigger.

1930
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: My soup box box is great. It's really good. It

1931
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt my knees. I want to go with you

1932
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,839
Speaker 1: bro out, I don't. I just yeah, a great workout,

1933
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 1: it hurts. What's the score? The name of the game?

1934
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: Real quick? What I mean, what's the name? What's the name? Score?

1935
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna the Buffalo Blizzard out of ten?

1936
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 3: What is that?

1937
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: The name. Yeah, that's a good eight. That's a good eight.

1938
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good name. That's a good eight.

1939
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: What's our total? Jack?

1940
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 3: Six point five?

1941
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Where it rank? Are all our guests who had all

1942
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: the games you've done?

1943
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 3: That ties us with game seven of the twenty eleven

1944
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 3: Stas Cup Finals with the Dano Chara and puts us

1945
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 3: just ahead of Gilbert Arenas's sixty point game.

1946
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty points. G Gilbert was Kobe. I'm a Kobe fan.

1947
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: Jill Reason was super nice, but he won my He

1948
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: was one of my well, I ain't gonna say my

1949
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: favorite players, but I.

1950
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Like the way he played.

1951
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 2: He was nice, although he did be tripping a little

1952
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 2: bit when it comes to Steph Curry. Other than that

1953
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: he's nice.

1954
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 1: He's a beast. He was it'd be a funny to

1955
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: get you guys together. We did. We can do that,

1956
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 1: but we did one one athlete. He was cool.

1957
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tried to us that he's better than Steph Curry.

1958
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 2: If you're taking twenty five years and down, I mean,

1959
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I don't know better. Stuf Curry

1960
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 2: sounds wow, right, it is.

1961
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Seth Curry is a monster. Got like a ticket from

1962
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: a police officer for saying ship like that. But I

1963
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: get what he was saying, but you know you should

1964
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: have said, but you know what's for lunch?

1965
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: Oh?

1966
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 3: Call back?

1967
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 2: You eat eat steak? What's yeah srimp? Let's order that

1968
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 2: because you're talking crazy. But he was nice though, he

1969
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 2: was nice. He was He was a bucket.

1970
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 3: We missed anything, Jack, I think we're good.

1971
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 1: You want to plug anything, No, I'm chilling you nothing

1972
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: just on Fox let's speak. They just asked me that

1973
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: quy try to try to catch you. Hey, thank you

1974
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 1: for coming on now. I'm gonna even know what she

1975
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:38,839
Speaker 1: told me. A man, I gotta do it. Boy, Doozy

1976
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: popcorn was being served.

1977
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 3: That was he was everything. He's built a bet man.

1978
01:32:46,479 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 3: He didn't disappoint Shady.

1979
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: He never disappoints. He just he has no filter and.

1980
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: He has his take and he stands by his take

1981
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 2: straight shooting and if he's wrong, and he'll eat it though,

1982
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 2: he'll eat it.

1983
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 3: He's not alive if you believe it.

1984
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 1: He was really fun.

1985
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 3: He was fun. I love Shade. We got to get

1986
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 3: him back on here. Do some of his Eagles games,

1987
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 3: A pit game, something.

1988
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: We got you. He's just fun. To talk to and

1989
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 1: get his perspective. He's a smart guy.

1990
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 3: Amen.

1991
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: He remembers everything too, he does.

1992
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 3: I mean, he's got a fucking steel trap for a mind.

1993
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: He asked me, you know, we leave, and he goes,

1994
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: are you left handed? I go, no, why? And he goes,

1995
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: because you always carry the ball with your left hand.

1996
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:36,719
Speaker 1: That right there tells me he knows some stuff. Because

1997
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: because I was a four back in the Wishbone back

1998
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight in Redwood City Pop Horner, I

1999
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 1: always ran the ball to my left and the sideline

2000
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: was there, and he always caught to keep the or

2001
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: taught to get the ball on your sideline. So my

2002
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: left became my dominant arm, which is weird for a

2003
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: right handed person. Usually people were more comfortable, and Shadey

2004
01:33:59,040 --> 01:33:59,799
Speaker 1: brought that out.

2005
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 3: About an observant cat.

2006
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 1: Oh my deservant dude.

2007
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 3: I crunched your tape like it's like it's a fucking

2008
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 3: episode of the Office. But I never noticed that you ain't.

2009
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Jack get here.

2010
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 3: I really didn't even.

2011
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: Man. I was sart calling you captain. By the way,

2012
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 1: one of our favorite cereals. If you're out there listening.

2013
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 3: Amen, should we get into these uh? These questions we

2014
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 3: got from the d MS.

2015
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's hear what these questions.

2016
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 3: So we opened them up. We put out the prompt

2017
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 3: of hit us with your dream guest, your dream game,

2018
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 3: you dream game guest combo, and we yielded some pretty

2019
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 3: good stuff. I come through and pulled the top five.

2020
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 3: Here you ready to get into it.

2021
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: Let's do it all right.

2022
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 3: Our guy John Edwards Underscore fourteen on Instagram said Steph

2023
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 3: Curry's Elite eight run. You know this one's near and

2024
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 3: dear to my heart. Yeah, David's and Wildcats, you know them.

2025
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: I was at you were there.

2026
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 3: I was at these games them. I love them.

2027
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 1: Baby.

2028
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 3: We got to get stuff in here, dude, Bob McKillop

2029
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 3: in here, the whole crew.

2030
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, he is such a like professional, not just

2031
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 1: how he's revolutionized the game, but like you never hear

2032
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 1: really a bad thing about him, and he is who

2033
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 1: like he He's just a great family man. He always

2034
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: has like he never gives a bad vibe. He's just

2035
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: very lovable.

2036
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 3: Amen.

2037
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 1: And then he will shoot the lights out of any

2038
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,920
Speaker 1: gym with any like he's an assassin on them and

2039
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 1: his handles. He's revolutionized basketball. He literally has changed the

2040
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: sport of basketball, Like have we We don't have any

2041
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: more centers. That's not that's no.

2042
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 3: Spread him out there.

2043
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 2: Everyone shoots threes because of Steph Curry. He's can we

2044
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: get him on Jack?

2045
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 1: You know him? Call him.

2046
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 3: I'll put in I'll put in a word here, I'll

2047
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 3: put it in a word. Oh my god, that would

2048
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 3: be that would be incredible. Moving on, we got from

2049
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 3: the three Doctor John Richardson on Instagram, Mark Sanchez Vince

2050
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 3: will Ford for the butt fumble both at.

2051
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: The same time.

2052
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 3: That would be wild.

2053
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 1: I mean, san Cheeto works for Fox.

2054
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 3: He's easy to get to. I would think we get

2055
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 3: get Sanchito.

2056
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: We can get He did a Super Bowl appearance together.

2057
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: He like mediated something that we did and he did

2058
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: pretty well. He's doing well on TV. He's handsome, he's

2059
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: a he got I don't know what the hair.

2060
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 3: It's a little, it's it's it's it's longer than you

2061
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 3: ever see him in the playing days. Yeah, eating hot

2062
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 3: dog on the sidelines, it was pretty clean cut.

2063
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 2: But like now, I mean, I guess maybe that's what

2064
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 2: that's what he's feeling right now. That's his confident self.

2065
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 3: I'd like to get a get it straight.

2066
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: I want to We're gonna get him on here now here?

2067
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 3: What about what about the Big Vince? Is he just

2068
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:44,799
Speaker 3: chilling down in Texas?

2069
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I anytime I think about Vince,

2070
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,719
Speaker 1: I just think of he had literally a semi truck.

2071
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 1: He had a semi truck car like truck that he

2072
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: was like without a trailer, literally a semi truck that

2073
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 1: he would drive to work. And I just see him

2074
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: with nothing but overalls on. That's exactly how I picture

2075
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: him right now in Cowboy books.

2076
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 3: And he's got to be manning like a grill of

2077
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 3: some sort, a huge smoker.

2078
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 1: Definitely, he has cooked for me and it was phenomenal

2079
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: his house once with Randy oh Man, it was.

2080
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 3: I would kill to be at that meal. What a

2081
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:24,759
Speaker 3: beast love Vins. Gotta get him on, moving on. Thad

2082
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 3: Harold also on Instagram a throwback Carlton Fisk for the

2083
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy five World Series Game six. You remember when

2084
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 3: he was doing the foul doing that one.

2085
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: That's a throwback, Yeah, throwback. Maybe if we ever Carlton

2086
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Fiske got it and it didn't, maybe if we move

2087
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: foul right noticed it it went foul.

2088
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we got to Uh I was against the Reds.

2089
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 3: I believe if we ever maybe pop over to Fenway,

2090
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 3: we got it. Carlton or we needed we need a

2091
01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 3: base original, Puz, we need a baseball game. It's been

2092
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,520
Speaker 3: a while since we've done a baseball.

2093
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: On a sap. Yep.

2094
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 3: When in classic baseball like that when baseball was cool, man, Yeah,

2095
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 3: I like that was it.

2096
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: I mean that was like still old time baseball right

2097
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: where it was like part of America. Now ol baseball

2098
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 1: was like nineties base cool baseball, eighties eighty five to

2099
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: nineties baseball. It's like, oh, these dudes are fucking hitting

2100
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 1: the ball to the movie. Yeah that's cool.

2101
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 2: Okay, these guys are playing small ball still back in

2102
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 2: seventy five, which is fun. I'm a baseball traditionalist. I

2103
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 2: love baseball.

2104
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm with you. But the cool nineties this was pretty cool.

2105
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, it's pretty cool. Now it's now

2106
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,480
Speaker 3: we're just in kind of forgetable.

2107
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 1: Era, fast fast era. It's the fast Mookie.

2108
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 3: Shoutout, Mookie, we love Another one from Instagram came in.

2109
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 3: Matthew P. Charles would like to see us have Ray

2110
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 3: Ruth and O J. Simpson on Jesus Matthew Boy, we

2111
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 3: got some funked up listeners.

2112
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 1: Oh God, did juice the juice? I mean we are

2113
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: in Brentwood, I mean we did have a juice reference.

2114
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,280
Speaker 3: Oh you're right, Oh my god, Shady, that got real awkward,

2115
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 3: real fast.

2116
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 1: So when he said the Hall of Fame stuff, I

2117
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 1: thought about juice because it was on Instagram. Someone asked him.

2118
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Somebody sent me a video of OJ saying that I

2119
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 1: belong in the Hall of Fame. And then he brought

2120
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: up that, and I was gonna say it, but I couldn't.

2121
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: I would have been yeah, o J.

2122
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 3: He loves the Twitter video.

2123
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: OJ does. Yeah, I was this close to pulling it up,

2124
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 1: this close. I don didn't know how long it was

2125
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: a little OJ. Yeah. I don't think Shady would have mind.

2126
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 3: No, he would have been down to OJ always signs off.

2127
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm just saying on Twitter. And then on Ray Carruth,

2128
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 3: I mean, also a reprehensible figure. There was a guy

2129
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 3: I remember going to Panthers games growing.

2130
01:39:57,880 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Up, who is Ray Cruth?

2131
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 3: Wide Receive out of Colorado. He had a hit man

2132
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 3: try to kill his pregnant wife.

2133
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,799
Speaker 1: Oh so these are these are bad guys.

2134
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, this in this guy Matthew Matthew, Yeah,

2135
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 3: he wants to see us, have him on and welcome

2136
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 3: him to your home. Like, what the fuck?

2137
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 2: Bro?

2138
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 3: This is so this guy Raker reprehend awful. Guy tried

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Speaker 3: to hit man kill his wife who was pregnant at

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Speaker 3: the time. There was a guy after this. I would

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Speaker 3: see him at Bank of America Stadium, maybe ericson field.

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Speaker 3: Back then. He was like at the middle aged, most

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Speaker 3: mild manner, looking like average white dad. He would wear

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Speaker 3: a Rayker Ruth jersey tucked into like acid washed jeans

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Speaker 3: for like twenty years, no matter what. I would go

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Speaker 3: to this game or a Panthers game like once or

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Speaker 3: twice a year see this guy every time. Wow, and

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Speaker 3: he's just walking around like it was cool. I think

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Speaker 3: he makes Twitter every now and again. People will resurface.

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Speaker 1: Photos this guy. Was he that good of a player?

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Speaker 3: He's like a second round pick out of Colorado, Like

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Speaker 3: I don't know the full.

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Speaker 1: I love like them.

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Speaker 3: That's a guy we might need to get on the pod,

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Speaker 3: say dude, what is wrong with you? On a lighter note,

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Speaker 3: a more normal fan, Matt Zetcher I believe is the

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Speaker 3: pronunciation on Instagram. He wants the Kelsey Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You got to get the yeah, it's yeah, it's not if.

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Speaker 3: We heard him on tape on the New Heights Body.

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Speaker 1: They confirmed it. They confirmed that's a that's a hard yes.

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Speaker 3: We will count as an inked yes, inked yes.

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Speaker 1: What an episode. Thanks again, Shady. That was unbelievable. That's

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Speaker 1: been another episode of Games with Names, presented by when Bett.

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Speaker 1: Remember guys, please follow us at Games with Names on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: x TikTok and snapchat. Jackie, we'll see it one week.

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Speaker 1: We'll we'll see him next week. That was one. Another

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Speaker 1: one in the bank. Yeah baby, as Belichick would say,

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Speaker 1: put it in the bank. Games with Names is a

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