WEBVTT - Disney CFO Hugh Johnston Talks Earnings

0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Early today, Caroline and I spoke to Disney CFO Hugh Johnston,

0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and we discussed all of those parts of the House

0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:06.880
<v Speaker 1>of Mouse.

0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Isn't this If you look at the major investments that

0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.440
<v Speaker 2>we've been making in the business over the last couple

0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.680
<v Speaker 2>of years, Number one is in the streaming business, and

0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.160
<v Speaker 2>number two obviously is in the experiences business, so parks

0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:21.280
<v Speaker 2>and cruises.

0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:21.680
<v Speaker 3>And the like.

0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.280
<v Speaker 2>And as you've seen in the number is through twenty

0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty four, you know, it really marked a pivot for

0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:29.440
<v Speaker 2>the Walt Disney Company.

0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.120
<v Speaker 3>The creativity is certainly very.

0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Much back back to back billion dollar movies and a

0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:39.920
<v Speaker 2>terrific slid for twenty five in addition to that fantastic

0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.640
<v Speaker 2>workout of the TV studios with sixty Emmys, and that

0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.960
<v Speaker 2>obviously feeds the flywheel of the Walt Disney Company, whether

0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.559
<v Speaker 2>it's streaming or whether it's experiences including parks, consumer products,

0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.280
<v Speaker 2>and of course the cruise ships. So given those investments

0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that we've been making, and given that we now have

0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.200
<v Speaker 2>good financial visibility into the returns on those investments, we

0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.360
<v Speaker 2>felt like it was important to inform investors not just

0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.319
<v Speaker 2>on how we were investing, but what they should expect

0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.479
<v Speaker 2>in terms of the returns on those and with that visibility,

0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.320
<v Speaker 2>we're confident that we can actually deliver.

0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Here across the media sector.

0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Your industry is getting better at being profitable in streaming,

0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.279
<v Speaker 1>so that's where I want to go. Is this something

0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that is kind of industry wide macro level factor is

0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.000
<v Speaker 1>supporting you, or is this something that you've done in

0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the last year specifically that's kind of cracked the formula

0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.520
<v Speaker 1>for streaming at Disney.

0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a combination of both.

0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Streaming is certainly very much scale business, so as everyone

0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.840
<v Speaker 2>gains more scale, obviously that helps the industry overall. For

0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:47.280
<v Speaker 2>us in particular, I think the combination of the terrific

0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.400
<v Speaker 2>ip that we're putting into the service, the product improvements

0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.240
<v Speaker 2>that we're making, and that we are intending to make

0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.920
<v Speaker 2>with the new leader that we have on product, Adam Smith,

0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:02.120
<v Speaker 2>who came over to us from YouTube, we see obviously

0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.400
<v Speaker 2>a terrific future in terms of where streaming is going.

0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's important to think.

0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:12.280
<v Speaker 2>About what do additional subscribers mean in terms of the

0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:15.480
<v Speaker 2>streaming business. In many ways, streaming has the characteristics of

0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.000
<v Speaker 2>a software business, where the incremental value of an additional

0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.840
<v Speaker 2>subscriber is very high because the incremental cost to that

0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.959
<v Speaker 2>incremental subscriber are very low. So we feel optimistic about

0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.000
<v Speaker 2>as the industry is coming together, we're going to continue

0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to both add subscribers and in addition to that, because of.

0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.799
<v Speaker 3>The value we're delivering with the great ip and the.

0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Great product that we're putting into this service, we'll be

0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.400
<v Speaker 2>able to take pricing as well. And that combined with

0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.480
<v Speaker 2>good cost management that we have in place in terms

0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.760
<v Speaker 2>of good disciplines on that business, we feel very optimistic

0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.400
<v Speaker 2>about where streaming is going for us.

0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.560
<v Speaker 4>You're also curving password sharing. How much of an impact

0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:52.960
<v Speaker 4>will that make?

0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.680
<v Speaker 3>You think it'll be a positive.

0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.600
<v Speaker 2>It'll be gradual over time and strengthen from quarter to quarter,

0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.639
<v Speaker 2>but we do think it'll be a positive impact on subscribers.

0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm interested in the film studio and what bonus you're

0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.240
<v Speaker 4>going to get from More or two, what bonus you're

0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.600
<v Speaker 4>going to be getting from Mafasa the Lion King. How

0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.600
<v Speaker 4>important has the investment been there?

0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's quite important and in many ways

0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.040
<v Speaker 2>to talk about that, we ought to dial back a

0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.200
<v Speaker 2>little bit to where we were.

0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:17.920
<v Speaker 3>A few years ago.

0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, as we launch streaming, and it's important to

0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.560
<v Speaker 2>remember we've only been in the streaming business five years.

0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.160
<v Speaker 2>This is a relatively nascent business for us in many ways.

0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Even though it's going to be quite profitable for us,

0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.000
<v Speaker 2>or is quite profitable now, it'll be more profitable in

0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the future. But as we think about where we were

0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.520
<v Speaker 2>a few years ago, we were very much focused on

0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.640
<v Speaker 2>creating a lot of quantity in order to fill the

0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.160
<v Speaker 2>service with content, and as is often the case, when

0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.160
<v Speaker 2>you push hard on quantity, sometimes quality isn't quite up

0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.520
<v Speaker 2>to where you would like it to be. When Bob

0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Biger came back a couple of years ago, he talked

0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.720
<v Speaker 2>about restoring creativity to the center of the company and

0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.920
<v Speaker 2>reducing quantity and focusing on raising the bar on quality.

0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Now we've been talking about that.

0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.320
<v Speaker 2>For really a year year and a half, but you

0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.880
<v Speaker 2>saw the impact of that. I think very much in

0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:10.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty four with Inside Out two and Deadpool and Wolverine

0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.320
<v Speaker 2>back to back billion dollar.

0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Movies is it's never been done before.

0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.440
<v Speaker 2>And then on the TV side with Avid Elementary and

0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:21.000
<v Speaker 2>The Bear and of course Showgun, we had sixty Emmys.

0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.640
<v Speaker 2>So I think that focus on quality is not something

0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.960
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of a one time random thing, but in

0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.839
<v Speaker 2>fact is a sustaining impact on the company. So as

0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.240
<v Speaker 2>we think forward to the slate in twenty twenty five,

0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.000
<v Speaker 2>whether it's Muwana Iu or Mufasa the Lion King, or

0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Lilo and Stitch or Avatar or Captain America, we're very

0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.560
<v Speaker 2>optimistic that those movies are going to be big, big

0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:45.279
<v Speaker 2>hits as well.

0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.280
<v Speaker 3>We couldn't be more excited about them.

0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So you've talked about the linear TV or live TV

0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.080
<v Speaker 1>business almost.

0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Like a hedge.

0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I know you want to keep that audience. It's important

0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to you, particularly the older demographic. But like many sports

0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.840
<v Speaker 1>fans interested in the D two C launch on ESPN,

0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.880
<v Speaker 1>how you think that that will kind of change your

0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.920
<v Speaker 1>audience and customers' attitudes in how they pay for sports

0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:10.640
<v Speaker 1>by sports.

0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, the important thing I think about the ESPN Flagship

0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:19.000
<v Speaker 2>launch Flagship is the project name that we use on that.

0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.919
<v Speaker 2>The thing to think about it is it's not just

0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.680
<v Speaker 2>another distribution channel, So it's not basically taking ESPN Alon

0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.599
<v Speaker 2>as it exists and just putting it into streaming. It

0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.080
<v Speaker 2>will have all of that content, to be clear, but

0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.200
<v Speaker 2>in addition to that, it's really going to be a

0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.880
<v Speaker 2>true digital experience in so many ways, so the ability

0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to do e commerce, the ability to track fantasy, the

0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:46.920
<v Speaker 2>ability to shape some of the ESPN broadcast products to

0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.039
<v Speaker 2>your liking, the ability to do online vetting as a

0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.640
<v Speaker 2>part of the product. It's a much more interactive, much

0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.440
<v Speaker 2>more digital product, and that's where I think the big

0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.760
<v Speaker 2>reshaping will come from. Consumers will choose what they want

0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to go through traditional cable networks or whether they want

0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.679
<v Speaker 2>to go through the newer digital networks, and that's something

0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.120
<v Speaker 2>that we're there for everyone everywhere. That's really the goal

0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.760
<v Speaker 2>of ESPN is we want to be where the sports

0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.080
<v Speaker 2>fan wants to be, but we do intend to bring

0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of value in that product, and I think

0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.320
<v Speaker 2>sports fans will come to it relatively quickly.

0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Disney CFO Hugh Johnston that