Speaker 1: Welcome to pod meets Twirl, the Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: recap hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want
Speaker 1: to dance, and have now seen ten episodes of Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. But since our best friend Danielle joined
Speaker 1: the cast for season thirty four, we're going all in.
Speaker 1: We are Wilfred Ell and Ryder Strong aka the two
Speaker 1: dudes standing next to Topanga aka daniel Fishal's backup aka
Speaker 1: the Daniettes. How's it going, Will?
Speaker 2: It's going well righter? How you doing?
Speaker 1: This is? This is the hottest off the presses we've
Speaker 1: ever recorded.
Speaker 2: The press is so hot.
Speaker 3: I can't even it's this is hot, this hot off
Speaker 3: the presses.
Speaker 1: We are recording right after the tenth episode aired, like
Speaker 1: literally right after, literally right after and uh, are you shook?
Speaker 2: I'm shook.
Speaker 1: I'm a little shook too.
Speaker 2: I'm a little shook. I'm a little yes and no,
Speaker 2: yes and no again.
Speaker 3: I think there's more that goes into all this that
Speaker 3: we're not really privy to.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, we've been hearing that apparently she.
Speaker 3: Had a big another show, and I don't know, what
Speaker 3: the hell do you feel like?
Speaker 1: We have a good grasp at least on how the
Speaker 1: judging works.
Speaker 2: And no, no, no, I don't.
Speaker 3: I feel like we have a good grasp on the show,
Speaker 3: But I don't think we have a good grasp on
Speaker 3: all of the internal external social media, all that stuff
Speaker 3: politics that go into the vote, right that I don't.
Speaker 3: I think you and I are woefully ignorant of I really,
Speaker 3: because neither of us are particularly good on social media
Speaker 3: or have.
Speaker 2: A You have a much bigger presence than I do.
Speaker 2: I have none, but you have one.
Speaker 3: Danielle obviously has one, so you know the world a bit.
Speaker 3: But I think there's a whole micro world around Dancing
Speaker 3: with the Stars that we are just not privy to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're a part of it, yes now,
Speaker 1: because we have this podcast exactly, and my feed has
Speaker 1: been a lot of Dancing with the Stars, although it
Speaker 1: tends to skew very Danielle heavy well, of course, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I have no clue what's up with Whitney. I
Speaker 1: guess it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of I didn't either, but I guess.
Speaker 3: So. You know, her other show, The Secret Lives of
Speaker 3: Mormon Wives, is the number one show on Hulu, thus
Speaker 3: being the number one show on ABC. And you know,
Speaker 3: which is the same world as Dancing with the Stars, right,
Speaker 3: So because it's on Hulu, it's all in the Disney family.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure there's people there that thought that Disney
Speaker 3: and ABC obviously wanted her to go as far as possible.
Speaker 3: But I guess something came out where she said she
Speaker 3: didn't want to do the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives anymore.
Speaker 3: She would only do that if she got a chance
Speaker 3: to do Dancing with the Stars. Like they said to her, well,
Speaker 3: if you do another season of the show, we'll let
Speaker 3: you do Dancing with the Stars, or you have a
Speaker 3: better shot at doing Dance with the Stars something.
Speaker 2: It was intertwined.
Speaker 3: So because of that, she went on to do another
Speaker 3: season of the show, and I guess she's getting.
Speaker 2: Kind of roasted for that. I don't know what it.
Speaker 3: Was, but again, this is all stuff we don't know about,
Speaker 3: so it's just part of the world we're not familiar with.
Speaker 2: It's clearly not the best dancer wins the show.
Speaker 3: That's clearly not with Dancing with the Stars is no no,
Speaker 3: So I.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, then you're fine.
Speaker 1: That's the bottom line is that Andy Sticks are around
Speaker 1: way longer than he probably should have in terms of
Speaker 1: just dancing skill and Whitney, who I thought dancer.
Speaker 2: Basically a professional dancer.
Speaker 3: She didn't have a bad performance that I can remember
Speaker 3: throughout the entire show where you're like, eh, right.
Speaker 2: And and she's gone and doesn't make the final, so
Speaker 2: you just, well.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it. I was surprised. Me too, So
Speaker 1: I'm still feeling a little like, wow, Okay, well shuck.
Speaker 1: I also love everybody who made it through, so yeah,
Speaker 1: me too. You know, I have no reason to dislike Whitney,
Speaker 1: I guess, but so I guess I would have been
Speaker 1: happy no matter what, because I like all these people.
Speaker 1: They're all good dancers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, it took a turn for us when
Speaker 3: Danielle wasn't on the show anymore. Right, it kind of
Speaker 3: becomes you know, the person you're really rooting for isn't there,
Speaker 3: So then you kind of go like, okay, now I'm
Speaker 3: just kind of watching the show and I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 2: And it was.
Speaker 1: Dramatic, huge, it was huge TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much.
Speaker 1: So all right, our opening number was an homage to Prince.
Speaker 3: I'd like to say, musically, by far, my favorite episode ever.
Speaker 1: Okay, complete opposite. Okay, will be complete opposite. Okay. So
Speaker 1: I was watching this opening number, not really cluing in
Speaker 1: that it was Prince Night or whatever, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I just I just don't like this, you know. I
Speaker 1: was that it was just like I don't know the
Speaker 1: style of it. The everything was just like this is fine,
Speaker 1: everyone's dancing. Well, I just don't care. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's Prince.
Speaker 2: And you're not a Prince fan.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. I always thought that Prince was
Speaker 1: just this gap in my musical knowledge, like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't think I knew many Prince songs. I don't
Speaker 1: listen to Prince. I've never been into Prince. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about it. And I always knew that was
Speaker 1: just like a blind spot in my musical world. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of them, to be fair, most people do.
Speaker 1: I'm very limited. I just don't, you know. I don't
Speaker 1: expose myself to the radio that much. I don't listen
Speaker 1: to popular music, so I'm usually out of it. And
Speaker 1: I always knew Prince as this like looming, towering figure
Speaker 1: that I should someday give attention to. And then when
Speaker 1: they did the like Prince round Up where they showed
Speaker 1: his montage of his whole career. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like this. I'm like everything he wears, yeah,
Speaker 1: his style. I was just like, yeah, not for me.
Speaker 1: And then the music itself, I'm like, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: that song. Oh, I know that song too. I don't
Speaker 1: know I really like any of these.
Speaker 2: Prince was Lenny Kravitz before Len Kravitz. Prince is the guy.
Speaker 2: I also, oh Man.
Speaker 3: Put them the two coolest men who have ever arguably
Speaker 3: walked the pret Just put them in a feather boa
Speaker 3: and stretch purple pants that have shark teeth on him
Speaker 3: and they pull it off, like yeah, love it, love it,
Speaker 3: and show me. I'm not a style guy, but I
Speaker 3: love I found Prince like in my early forties because
Speaker 3: everyone was like, dude, you love music and you've never
Speaker 3: found Prince.
Speaker 2: And I was the same way.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not I don't need to listen
Speaker 3: to Prince, Like I got enough going on. And then
Speaker 3: I started to kind of deep dive Princes and it
Speaker 3: was like, holy.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you had the exact opposite of me.
Speaker 2: Exactly, okay, exactly, I mean made amazing music. To do it.
Speaker 1: But I watched the montage. I was like, man, yeah, do.
Speaker 3: You want to you want to get you want to
Speaker 3: get a little a little nugget, just a very little
Speaker 3: nugget of Prince. What Prince is capable of? Go and
Speaker 3: google it's playing. I think it's my guitar gently weeps.
Speaker 3: Is I think the name of the song? I could
Speaker 3: this song might be wrong from the Beatles and they're
Speaker 3: doing some kind of retrospective and it's some of the
Speaker 3: greatest musicians ever on stage. It's like Tom Petty and
Speaker 3: all these people, and Prince does the guitar solo and
Speaker 3: it's all of them half way through these towers of
Speaker 3: the industry looking at this guy, like who is this guy?
Speaker 3: He's it's insane. Yeah, So, I mean he does certain things.
Speaker 3: I mean the one of the he's also a prolific songwriter.
Speaker 3: So one of the famous stories is apparently he saw uh,
Speaker 3: what's what's her name from the Bengals on the plane
Speaker 3: he was flying on the plane with like the lead
Speaker 3: singer of the Bengals. This is a story that's like
Speaker 3: a Hollywood story. So I'm not sure if it's true,
Speaker 3: but it's People have said it is and he walked
Speaker 3: on and he saw her and he was very big
Speaker 3: into female empowerment music, and by the time the flight
Speaker 3: landed he had written it was like just another manic
Speaker 3: Monday and handed it to her on a napkin like
Speaker 3: one of their biggest things.
Speaker 2: He was like that guy where it was yeah, that
Speaker 2: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. It's I guess it's sort
Speaker 1: of like jazz, which we've talked about, like one of
Speaker 1: those things. I feel like I should like. Everyone tells
Speaker 1: me they're like, oh, you would totally like this, and
Speaker 1: I've never been able to get past Like, I just
Speaker 1: never got into it. I feel like Prince's kind of
Speaker 1: that way. I feel like tonight was a deep dive
Speaker 1: into britt Slam for me, and I came.
Speaker 2: You were swimming for the surface. You were deep diving
Speaker 2: and swam for the service totally. So I love the music.
Speaker 2: I really music, all right.
Speaker 1: So first up Elaine and Alan uh I thought this
Speaker 1: was pretty great.
Speaker 3: I did too, But I have a question. Have we
Speaker 3: asked anybody how they pick who goes first? Because this
Speaker 3: is the second week in a row she's had to
Speaker 3: dance first.
Speaker 1: That's not true. Robert went first, didn't he No?
Speaker 2: I thought, what tonight?
Speaker 1: None went first? Last week?
Speaker 2: I thought Elaine went first? Again? Didn't she go first
Speaker 2: last week?
Speaker 1: Interesting?
Speaker 2: Well yeah she almost Sarah said, yeah.
Speaker 1: She did. Okay, Well this week it almost doesn't matter
Speaker 1: because they all got to dance a second danced.
Speaker 3: About the whole start in the first position, and she's
Speaker 3: now gone twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I agree.
Speaker 3: I thought it was. I thought it was decent. It
Speaker 3: wasn't my favorite, but it started strong.
Speaker 1: I thought she brought a like a slinky quality that
Speaker 1: she hasn't before that I thought was really good. She
Speaker 1: had like nice attitude without being cheesy, you know, like,
Speaker 1: all right, you're bringing some attitude. Obviously, she brought it
Speaker 1: way more for her second dance.
Speaker 3: Second dance was no, it was. She also looked great tonight.
Speaker 3: Both of the dresses she was wearing, we were pretty great.
Speaker 1: And even before the second dance, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Eline has brought it tonight in a way that I
Speaker 1: don't think she has before.
Speaker 2: And she was.
Speaker 1: I could see it right and the yeah, she was
Speaker 1: really in it, and I was. I thought she brought
Speaker 1: a new attitude and a new way of moving her
Speaker 1: body to this dance. I was like, oh, wow, she's
Speaker 1: come to like really dance and yeah, so I thought
Speaker 1: it was great. She got nines across the board, which
Speaker 1: seemed totally fair. Yeah, I agree a good start.
Speaker 3: Wasn't tens, but yeah, kind of changing my tune a
Speaker 3: little bit on her just this week. I've had my
Speaker 3: problems with Lane obviously, but I thought she did really
Speaker 3: well this week, like really well, and you could tell
Speaker 3: she was focused and kind of ready to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Next up where Alex and Val too?
Speaker 2: Man, just can't they?
Speaker 1: God?
Speaker 3: I think with Whitney out of the way, I still
Speaker 3: don't think that I stand by what I say.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna beat Robert, No one's but.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a tight competition.
Speaker 2: Close. She could really close.
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny. I wasn't convinced that the song
Speaker 1: and the dance went well together because you know, this
Speaker 1: is the song felt kind of like a joyful release
Speaker 1: and this this dance is like a little bit more
Speaker 1: about control or like maybe even resisting control in a way.
Speaker 1: Like it just felt like a little mismatch to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my only like, but it was still so
Speaker 1: well done. It was like great, of course, yes, this
Speaker 1: is gonna get nines and tens which.
Speaker 3: It And she also that I I you know, apparently,
Speaker 3: so one of the things we're learning as we're learning
Speaker 3: these dances is a lot of these dances are really
Speaker 3: there to highlight the woman. So it's like the how
Speaker 3: did Danielle say it to us one time? She's like,
Speaker 3: the man is the frame and the woman is the painting.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's kind of that's what it's highlighting.
Speaker 3: And her in that red dress was stunning. I mean
Speaker 3: it's just everything about that visual how long and lean
Speaker 3: she was when he like leans her over at the
Speaker 3: end and the slit up the side, I mean it
Speaker 3: was the whole look was pretty remarkable for this dance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's such a good dancer. I mean she is insane.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Next up Whitney and Mark. I you know, contrary to
Speaker 1: the fact that she got kicked off this week, I
Speaker 1: thought that this was some of her best solo work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like it really hasn't had a bad dance no,
Speaker 1: and this was a chance for them to do some
Speaker 1: side by side. I don't know something about this. I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, Whitney's really like just I mean
Speaker 1: into her own as a dancer. She it's like, what,
Speaker 1: didn't feel dependent on him to the same degree that
Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, they've always been great, but
Speaker 1: this was like a chance. I don't know. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: she's killing it. And I think the scores reflected that
Speaker 1: even better than Alex in some ways with their first dance.
Speaker 2: I agree. Now, do you think by this point, I
Speaker 2: guess you can't. You can't dissect the two.
Speaker 3: Because there she has this whole other persona that I
Speaker 3: guess is driving some of her voting when it comes
Speaker 3: to her other reality show and her online persona, which
Speaker 3: again we're not privy to at all. So do you
Speaker 3: think the fact that people like us and a lot
Speaker 3: of other people have kind of said she's a professional dancer.
Speaker 2: Has hurt her as the the.
Speaker 3: I mean, because again, if you look at her and
Speaker 3: Alex now, it seems like they're kind of close to
Speaker 3: the same level. And Alex isn't a professional dancer, right,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: She's like a well she I think, oh, it's the
Speaker 2: same thing. I thought she was just like a makeup
Speaker 2: influencer or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, she's introduced more as a makeup and answer.
Speaker 1: But I just assume if anybody's on TikTok and there's
Speaker 1: they're dancing.
Speaker 3: That's that's where we're wrong. That's where we don't know
Speaker 3: anything about. To take away, I just assume it's food
Speaker 3: to dance, right, It's have no idea what it is.
Speaker 1: You're right, she does make up tutorials, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ever, Alex never really danced on TikTok. Apparently it's what
Speaker 3: it's says. So yeah, it seems like that to me,
Speaker 3: seems more of the show. We've talked about that with Dylan,
Speaker 3: who I did not think had a great night. But
Speaker 3: we talked about that with Dylan, where you know, there's
Speaker 3: something too you're not a dancer, now you're a dancer,
Speaker 3: as opposed to you're a dancer and now you're a
Speaker 3: slightly better dancer.
Speaker 2: That's it's two different journeys.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she got nine, ten and ten, so a little
Speaker 1: little higher than Alex and Bow. And then we went
Speaker 1: on to Dylan and Daniella your favorite. She's you know,
Speaker 1: I'm still really rooting for both of them.
Speaker 2: Me too, me too.
Speaker 1: This one did not did not do it for me.
Speaker 2: I felt like he was a little stiff tonight, like
Speaker 2: he was a little off tonight.
Speaker 1: The note I took was I could feel him gritting
Speaker 1: his teeth a little bit. Yeah, I missed.
Speaker 3: You know the word that I used when I was
Speaker 3: watching it, deliberate. Yeah, it seemed there was no flow
Speaker 3: to it. It seemed like he was in his head and
Speaker 3: it was kind of one two three, what like he's
Speaker 3: trying to keep up with it in his mind. But
Speaker 3: she's I have to remind myself to watch him because she's.
Speaker 1: So good, she's astounding.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I was, you know, I was glad
Speaker 1: they came back out for another dance, but this was Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Dylan, come on, man, after last week,
Speaker 1: you could bring it, you could do it. But I also,
Speaker 1: you know, and this was an overall for this week.
Speaker 2: A lot of jives, which I just still not my
Speaker 2: favorite dance no either, and.
Speaker 1: So you know, there were a lot of choices being
Speaker 1: made in terms of dance that I was like, really,
Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna do this. Now you're gonna
Speaker 1: bust out the Vietnese waltz. I mean, everybody was still good,
Speaker 1: but it was like, I don't know, I wanted a little.
Speaker 1: I'm very curious how the finale is going to go,
Speaker 1: like what their dance?
Speaker 2: He dances each apparently is it?
Speaker 1: And then and so yeah, and there's five there's five
Speaker 1: couples left in the finals. Is that right? Is there
Speaker 1: any theme for the finale or is.
Speaker 2: It just a free for all finale?
Speaker 3: I don't have finally, fine, finally no, just finale, just finale.
Speaker 1: All right, final songs? Cool?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So they got nine to nine and nine, which seemed fair.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree. I thought he was off a
Speaker 2: little tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now I have a question for you, since we
Speaker 3: are talking about it's clear that the best answer doesn't win.
Speaker 3: And I imagine this is something that everybody who's ever
Speaker 3: watched Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Ever knew, and we just didn't that.
Speaker 3: It's not like if you if you expect the best
Speaker 3: dnswer to win, you're gonna be disappointed a lot of
Speaker 3: the time. Do you think Whitney had lost before she
Speaker 3: even stepped foot on the dance floor tonight?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel the same way.
Speaker 1: They were.
Speaker 2: They just that was it. She was just she was
Speaker 2: done already.
Speaker 1: No, you know what if Elaine hadn't blown everybody away,
Speaker 1: especially with their second dance, I think she could have
Speaker 1: been eliminated. I think danced her way into the finale tonight,
Speaker 1: but it was on the bubble coming in.
Speaker 3: I don't know how it works, but I feel like
Speaker 3: with whatever was going on in the internet, it was
Speaker 3: like she's done before she ever had a chance.
Speaker 1: But see, this is why the show is so well produced,
Speaker 1: right because because if it was just about who's the
Speaker 1: best dancer, and the judges sort of had like robotic
Speaker 1: answers of like technical stuff, but you know, but that
Speaker 1: human element is still there, and the journey and the
Speaker 1: narrative of the season, it still has a huge impact.
Speaker 1: And that's those ups and downs. Man, in this elimination,
Speaker 1: I have to.
Speaker 2: It shocked me too.
Speaker 3: But I have to tell you that I've expanded on
Speaker 3: my idea from last week. Okay, remember I talked about
Speaker 3: how a cool version of the show would be if
Speaker 3: both were celebrities and.
Speaker 2: They dance as a couple.
Speaker 3: What it should be is that, but each week, one
Speaker 3: of the two of that couple is kicked off and
Speaker 3: has to then partner with somebody else, and so the
Speaker 3: final comes down to two celebrities dancing together, but only
Speaker 3: one of.
Speaker 2: Them can win.
Speaker 1: That's not bad.
Speaker 2: I think it'd be cool.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I just saw Running Man this week, so
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of other ways to up
Speaker 3: up the game.
Speaker 1: And then they get killed.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, I'm just squid games with
Speaker 2: the squid games, all right.
Speaker 1: Next up Jordan and Ezra. And this is where I
Speaker 1: was like, man, the jive just kind of sucks.
Speaker 2: I agree, I don't like it. I don't like it, but.
Speaker 1: We'll get to in our next dance. I was surprised.
Speaker 2: So Derek.
Speaker 1: Derek gave the feedback, you know, he gave really great feedback.
Speaker 1: He was like, Jordan, I just feel like you're you're
Speaker 1: missing some of the bite or I think he said punch,
Speaker 1: you know, like and I felt that. When he said that,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's what it was. It was
Speaker 1: she wasn't like hitting the landing into her her moves
Speaker 1: as much. And this is when I started to get
Speaker 1: worried because I love Jordans. I love Jordan and Ezra,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, it's not looking good
Speaker 1: for them. So when it came down to the the
Speaker 1: bottom three, who aren't really even maybe the bottom three.
Speaker 1: I was pretty convinced that Jordan was out, but I
Speaker 1: thought this was a good dance.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was one of her best or
Speaker 3: her best, but it was good. I mean, I thought
Speaker 3: she was good tonight.
Speaker 1: As an overall, everybody up their game for their second dance.
Speaker 1: It seemed like, yes, if they got to choose which
Speaker 1: one went first. I mean, I know that I'm so
Speaker 1: confused with how what choices they have, but it seems
Speaker 1: like they were all pretty strategic and like whatever they
Speaker 1: thought was their best dance if they had the choice,
Speaker 1: they put second. Because yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Also have to imagine, though, like any other whether it's
Speaker 3: the second half of a game or something like that,
Speaker 3: you're also warmed up. Yeah, like you know you're I know,
Speaker 3: I know you can warm up a bit beforehand, but
Speaker 3: once you've already danced in that first adrenaline rushes off.
Speaker 3: I have to imagine that second dance you can kind
Speaker 3: of sink into a little easier.
Speaker 1: What are your how do you warm up your voice
Speaker 1: for cartoon work? What are your what are your vocal exercises?
Speaker 2: I usually wake up and cough.
Speaker 1: You don't do anything, No, really no red leather, yellow letter,
Speaker 1: red leather, yellow leather of that.
Speaker 2: In my entire life.
Speaker 3: No, at least now I'm not waking up and smoking
Speaker 3: half a pack of cigarettes. No, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: exercised nothing with my voice.
Speaker 1: That's that's actually pretty rare. Right in your street.
Speaker 3: I've never been with a voiceover actor I've ever seen
Speaker 3: warming up their voice next to me.
Speaker 2: You just kind of sit down and you just go.
Speaker 3: So, I mean maybe I think it's just again, it
Speaker 3: also depends on what you're doing. Yeah, if you know,
Speaker 3: when I were, I remember doing a Medal of Honor
Speaker 3: video game where I had to scream at the top
Speaker 3: of my lungs for sixteen straight sessions or.
Speaker 2: Something like that, and it was that was because everything.
Speaker 2: Don't forget there's gunfire going out, so.
Speaker 3: You're just yelling the whole time. It's like you couldn't
Speaker 3: warm up for that. It was just your your your
Speaker 3: throat is bleeding by the end of the so.
Speaker 2: But no, but normally no, I don't. What do you
Speaker 2: what do you do? You warm up theater for you? Oh?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean when when I was, I've done like,
Speaker 1: you know, eight shows a week where I've had to
Speaker 1: like steam, like, you know, I'll be inhaling like uh whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, just because like the throat gets so tired.
Speaker 1: But I'm horrible with my throat, like I use it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, horribly me Like I don't. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like project correctly from my diaphragm or any of that.
Speaker 2: I do that I'm pretty, but I don't treat my throat. Well,
Speaker 2: you just gotta be careful of the stuff you put
Speaker 2: in your body.
Speaker 1: Right, Are you having a whiskey right now?
Speaker 2: No, it's a urban.
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: That out came Robert and Whitney, and my note was, Jesus,
Speaker 1: I guess I like the jive, so maybe that's all
Speaker 1: I need to say. It's incredible, it's so good. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh dude, and suddenly the most coolest dance
Speaker 1: I've ever.
Speaker 2: Seen said the same thing. When she flips him over.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, okay, we're done, thank you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. There were like two moves that flip, and then
Speaker 1: there was one early one. I was like, well, what
Speaker 1: they're making this so cool and so interesting? So like
Speaker 1: I feel like it had great big set pieces, still
Speaker 1: was a jive technically wonderful.
Speaker 3: There were some there were some different dances going around
Speaker 3: that you could argue were dancing the night, but Dancer
Speaker 3: of the Night Robert killed it. And we talked about
Speaker 3: last week about him against Dylan, where it was like
Speaker 3: Dylan stole it last week and he's as good as
Speaker 3: they were in two different categories. Tonight, Robert absolutely crushed it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: crushed it.
Speaker 1: Did you notice that like nobody had sets? Yes, like
Speaker 1: all of the the production design has just stripped down.
Speaker 1: Now it's just that whole dance. I do too. I
Speaker 1: love that, and it seems like everybody made the same choice.
Speaker 1: It was like, no, no, no, Now it's just about the dancing.
Speaker 1: We're not going to have any props, We're not going
Speaker 1: to have any extra stuff. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: really cool me too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to take a moment here or
Speaker 3: towards the end to talk about the judging tonight and
Speaker 3: what was actually going on with the judges.
Speaker 1: The kind of missed all of it. I oh, because yeah,
Speaker 1: we were texting while watching, so let's talk about it,
Speaker 1: because I I you.
Speaker 2: Can tell Derek was going at carry carry in.
Speaker 3: I thought tonight, frankly, some of the stuff she did
Speaker 3: made no sense whatsoever. How you look at Whitney and
Speaker 3: you say this was the best dance you've ever done
Speaker 3: and then give her a lower score than you've given
Speaker 3: her before obviously makes no sense. That being said, I
Speaker 3: thought a lot of She's like, we're going from the
Speaker 3: semifinals to the finals. Our job is to judge. We
Speaker 3: have to nitpick a little bit, and that's what I
Speaker 3: thought she was doing. I didn't think it was horribly unfair.
Speaker 3: I thought getting down in front of Elaine and bowing
Speaker 3: to her was a bit much.
Speaker 1: But I mean, she loves Elamb She's so obvious she does.
Speaker 3: She's one of her Elaine, we're talking about it in
Speaker 3: one of her faves. But the then Derek obviously was
Speaker 3: like looking at her. She mentioned something about you missed
Speaker 3: two different hops in ya. I forget who she was
Speaker 3: talking to, but she said you missed two different hops
Speaker 3: and Derek kind of looked at her looked. He was like, no,
Speaker 3: she what the hell? And she's like, look, I saw
Speaker 3: what I saw. And they were going at it. And
Speaker 3: then apparently we have we have some insider knowledge of
Speaker 3: some people that were there that apparently she was super
Speaker 3: pissed at the table and then when they cut back
Speaker 3: to them and he's like, oh, bring it in, and
Speaker 3: he went to hug the.
Speaker 2: Two of them. She was pissed. I mean, like you
Speaker 2: could tell it was bad.
Speaker 3: So there's a there's gonna be It's an interesting in
Speaker 3: my head, they all drive to the show together, So
Speaker 3: in my head, that's going to be an interesting car
Speaker 3: ride home, the three of those judges sharing the Volvo
Speaker 3: they drive.
Speaker 1: You know, I wonder about this. So our friend of
Speaker 1: the podcast Variety writer Emily Longretta, did an interview with
Speaker 1: Carrie Anne that she sent to me and said we
Speaker 1: should read before we recorded last week. And I did
Speaker 1: read it, said it to me, what's up, bro, Thanks Emily.
Speaker 1: You're not on social media. She sent it to me
Speaker 1: through Instagram. But it was a really good interview and
Speaker 1: they you know, they sort of covered the fact that
Speaker 1: Carrie and gets a lot more crap than other judges.
Speaker 1: And in the interview, you know, Carrie Ane was sort
Speaker 1: of you know, connecting it to being a woman and
Speaker 1: that she's in some ways harder on women dancers than
Speaker 1: the guys are. And then unfortunately that kind of comes
Speaker 1: back on her, which you know, it was. It was
Speaker 1: a good point. But I also think even beyond the
Speaker 1: fact that she's female, I think that she does put
Speaker 1: herself into a more serious position often, like by the
Speaker 1: way she talks, you know. I feel like Derek and
Speaker 1: Bruno have a much more sort of like, even when
Speaker 1: they're critical, there's always this sort of like, but we're
Speaker 1: all just having fun and it's all about positivity, where
Speaker 1: she can come off a little more like I am
Speaker 1: here to judge. This is my job, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to take it seriously, and as a result, she kind
Speaker 1: of gets more blowback. You know.
Speaker 3: I think if she did that though equally for everybody,
Speaker 3: then most people might I won't say most people.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have that big a problem with it.
Speaker 3: But when she's saying to people like Andy, who for
Speaker 3: some dances, let's be honest, we all liked him, but
Speaker 3: was kind of sitting there in the middle and moving
Speaker 3: his arms and moving his legs a little bit while
Speaker 3: she danced around him and going like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: your journey is amazing, and Daniell's flipping all over the
Speaker 3: stage and she's like, well, you're really not holding your
Speaker 3: shoulders back.
Speaker 2: It didn't come off as equal judgment.
Speaker 3: So it's one of those things apparently, because again we've
Speaker 3: talked about this now we've been deep diving it a bit,
Speaker 3: or I've been deep diving it a bit. Everyone seems
Speaker 3: to say that from the beginning, Well, yes, she does
Speaker 3: put herself in that more serious kind of category. She
Speaker 3: also definitely has her favorites. Yeah, and when she picks
Speaker 3: her favorites, they're her favorites, and when anybody else comes up,
Speaker 3: she judges them as opposed to praising the people that
Speaker 3: are her favorites. So again, I would say, at least
Speaker 3: from the two guys that I've seen, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: she does get for being a woman and putting herself
Speaker 3: out there, and don't doubt that at all, but the
Speaker 3: guys seem to be consistently consistent with everybody, whereas she
Speaker 3: seems to kind kind of again, I'm going to say
Speaker 3: this to this person, but this to this person, and
Speaker 3: this to this and again the good example is tonight,
Speaker 3: I mean looking at Whitney and going, this is.
Speaker 2: The best dance you have ever done? Here nine?
Speaker 3: It's like, but you gave her a ten last week,
Speaker 3: so how can you say this is the best she's
Speaker 3: ever done and give her a nine?
Speaker 2: It just a lot of seeds, some.
Speaker 1: Of that flave of flave consistency.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just yes, I don't know if you heard.
Speaker 3: I read it yesterday. He just found his paddle.
Speaker 2: Uh so congratulations, he was just told he was there.
Speaker 1: He just found up that he did dance with the stars.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, again, I can see and I look
Speaker 3: back on some of the stuff you and I said
Speaker 3: about her, and we got some pressed about it, and
Speaker 3: maybe we're a little harsh, but again, it's like I
Speaker 3: become a big brother when I see what you're doing
Speaker 3: to a friend of mine. But again, I just don't
Speaker 3: think she's overly consistent, and I think there's there's drama
Speaker 3: going on. I mean, if you could go back when
Speaker 3: it goes on Hulu and you can watch again, just
Speaker 3: watch when Derek grabs her and grabs him and.
Speaker 2: Pulls him into a hug. She is livid, like livid.
Speaker 2: So yeah, super super interesting week.
Speaker 3: It'll it se because that's going to make depressed, and
Speaker 3: obviously it absolutely will.
Speaker 2: So I see what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've gone through a full journey
Speaker 1: with carry Anne because now I really kind of like her,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I know, I know, but I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying about inconsistency, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: a problem sort of across the board with this whole system.
Speaker 1: Is like I, like I said a couple of episodes ago,
Speaker 1: I would love it if they stated their intentions at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, like this is what I
Speaker 1: care about, and this is what I'm going to be
Speaker 1: looking for and and sort of we could then judge them,
Speaker 1: judge their judging right, holding it to whatever standard they
Speaker 1: set out to. But I like that she takes it
Speaker 1: so seriously. I really do do in a way that
Speaker 1: as much as I know Derek and Bruno are obviously
Speaker 1: just as knowledgeable and have justice, like have their opinions,
Speaker 1: their presentation is a little more light and a little
Speaker 1: less like, you know, just intense and severe. And I
Speaker 1: actually kind of or I'm not intense and severe, just
Speaker 1: like maybe rigorous or there's something about her presentation that
Speaker 1: is just it's a different mode and I actually kind
Speaker 1: of appreciate it now, So I've gone full circle.
Speaker 3: That's great now Again, I don't dislike her. I don't
Speaker 3: think she's particularly consistent. Yeah, and I wonder I still
Speaker 3: want to know, because I don't think we've gotten a
Speaker 3: sufficient answer. People have told us a quote unquote answer,
Speaker 3: but I don't believe it. Frankly, I just don't how
Speaker 3: much sway the judges' scores hold as opposed to the
Speaker 3: popular vote, because that's what they say, but I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I buy that.
Speaker 3: So it's one of those things where you wonder if
Speaker 3: if they're kind of.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, we're here to go. You were great, but
Speaker 2: maybe hold your.
Speaker 3: Arms like this and then know that the public's going
Speaker 3: to vote them through or not vote them through. And
Speaker 3: that's just kind of how it is.
Speaker 1: All right, second round of dances began with Elaine and Allen.
Speaker 1: The passe dole.
Speaker 3: Strikes again and strikes a sorry before you start. We're
Speaker 3: going to very quickly because it is one of your favorites.
Speaker 2: Do wiz history of dance history?
Speaker 3: Oh, we should do it together at some point, and
Speaker 3: for you, the writer of strong edition, we're going to
Speaker 3: do the pasa dobla tonight.
Speaker 2: Nice. Where do you think the passa dobla originated Spain? Wrong?
Speaker 2: Really France?
Speaker 3: What swear past pastoble originated in France in the sixteenth century,
Speaker 3: drawing inspiration from the drama and movements of Spanish and
Speaker 3: Portuguese bullfights, and was popularized in Spain but started in France.
Speaker 3: The dance spread throughout Europe and became a ballroom dance
Speaker 3: style in nineteen thirties, where is characterized by a man
Speaker 3: portraying and mattado and a woman portraying the role of
Speaker 3: his cape or a Spanish dancer.
Speaker 2: We got to love the French.
Speaker 3: You know, we are gonna make something spending.
Speaker 2: That's it's so funny now for the records and bla
Speaker 2: baguette and zis screwy?
Speaker 1: Croissant? Wasn't French?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: I think croissantest, of course it is. Well, it's like
Speaker 2: the National Quassas of France say it like that, just
Speaker 2: a horrible person? Can I have a crescent blaze?
Speaker 3: By the way, Sue and I Now if they the
Speaker 3: second they say like and dancing the Argentine tango or
Speaker 3: dancing the passa double, we will get it to go.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, Riders is gonna love this one because
Speaker 3: we just know these are your favorites now.
Speaker 1: And look they save them for the end of the
Speaker 1: season because everybody has their breakout moment with a pas
Speaker 1: doble or an Argentinian tango. Oh sorry, you know, we
Speaker 1: saw it tonight with Jordan coming out.
Speaker 3: It's like the tango going at the top, but kind
Speaker 3: of the jive legs sometimes at the bottom, so you
Speaker 3: get the leg.
Speaker 2: Movement, but it's still the statuesque. It's they're great, They're great,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: So I thought this was Elaine's best dance of the
Speaker 1: season her hands down.
Speaker 2: She was great.
Speaker 1: She was fantastic, she committed, her body was doing incredible things.
Speaker 1: She had such perfect attitude. It's like, yes, yes, give
Speaker 1: it to her tens across the board rightfully, so she
Speaker 1: deserves reserved yes. And this is why I think she
Speaker 1: just danced her way to the finale because this was
Speaker 1: so damn good. Everybody was like, oh, and she timed
Speaker 1: it perfectly. You know, you hold onto the show, you
Speaker 1: stay in with your eight seven's, nines, and then you
Speaker 1: you bust out your big ten.
Speaker 3: Dances crush and she was great. Yeah, this was a
Speaker 3: very very good dance.
Speaker 1: And I wonder how much she also is getting a
Speaker 1: bump from the Andy factor, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's possible. We're going to vote for an
Speaker 1: act or somebody who's had a good journey. All those votes,
Speaker 1: all those people are probably gonna right now be channeling
Speaker 1: those votes to somewhere, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would agree.
Speaker 3: I also think one of the things that you and
Speaker 3: I have not talked about, and it seems to kind
Speaker 3: of I think, probably be par for the course for
Speaker 3: this guy a little bit, especially the season, is her partner, Alan,
Speaker 3: who I don't think we've ever really talked about Alan.
Speaker 3: He's dealing with somebody who's slightly older and injured, and
Speaker 3: to be able to go this far with her with
Speaker 3: the court, I mean, again, if you're doing choreography and
Speaker 3: it's like you've got a bad toe, you've got a
Speaker 3: bad hip, you've got this, you've got a tailor what
Speaker 3: you're doing to your partner, So to be able to
Speaker 3: get out of her what he's been able to get
Speaker 3: out of her, I don't think we've certainly not given
Speaker 3: him enough credit throughout the season. That's a really good point,
Speaker 3: and he's I think, been really killing it.
Speaker 1: Frank, Yeah, Yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Next up, Alex and val I thought this was pretty magical.
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
Speaker 1: It was this, Yeah, I mean, for me, this was
Speaker 1: when like Alex really because you know, Bruno had this
Speaker 1: note about her connection with with Val and it was
Speaker 1: so true when I think about her first dance, remember
Speaker 1: the circus dance when we were there, Oh yes, right
Speaker 1: and whip yeah, And I feel like the first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, she was always a good dancer, like her
Speaker 1: body was always doing the right things, but it just
Speaker 1: never felt it was kind of like an AI dancer
Speaker 1: or something like, Yeah, there was something a little like
Speaker 1: not connected in her eyes, a little bit soulless. Right,
Speaker 1: that is not the case anymore. Like there like she
Speaker 1: is in it body, heart, soul, like you're just with her.
Speaker 1: And so she's become one of my favorites, like take
Speaker 1: a lot of journey because I from the first episode,
Speaker 1: I was like, Eh, she's good, but it's not gonna
Speaker 1: speak to me. But this like spoke to me. It
Speaker 1: was just beautiful.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I think I think Dylan kind of said it best
Speaker 3: in one of his pre show packages where he was like,
Speaker 3: only part of this show is about dancing. The other
Speaker 3: part of the show is about believing in what you're doing.
Speaker 3: When it's like believing in yourself and what you're doing
Speaker 3: when you're out there because that's you and I've talked
Speaker 3: about that. The hardest part we would have is be
Speaker 3: like the comedy version would be saying committing to the bit,
Speaker 3: which is obviously this is not a bit, but this
Speaker 3: is commit going out there and giving one hundred percent
Speaker 3: and believing in what you're doing. That would be a
Speaker 3: difficult barrier for you and I to break through. Where dance, Yeah,
Speaker 3: with dance where I agree with you. She got out
Speaker 3: there and she could definitely do the steps, but she's
Speaker 3: now to the point there's like Dylan last week where
Speaker 3: it's like, oh you you believe you're a dancer now?
Speaker 3: And I can see yeah, So it does. It makes
Speaker 3: It makes a very big difference watching them, And the
Speaker 3: only thing I was thinking the whole time, and I
Speaker 3: know she's married to Pasha and they have a little
Speaker 3: kid and they're happy as hell.
Speaker 2: But I want to see Daniella and Val dance together.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that to me would be something pretty remarkable. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dylan and Daniella up neck. Oh well, they got
Speaker 1: tens across the board, no surprise, right, Uh, Dylan and
Speaker 1: Daniella doing the chat cha if I'm remembering correctly, Yes,
Speaker 1: and right at the beginning with the way he started
Speaker 1: reminding me of his first dance too. Everyone he started
Speaker 1: on the judging table and doing his little I don't
Speaker 1: know if this was the right choice at this time,
Speaker 1: Like this is precisely his weakness, right, Latin dancing hips. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's better in the more like you know, partnered tango
Speaker 1: where anything where he can be the sort of leading
Speaker 1: man without having to dance on his own. That said,
Speaker 1: I still thought it was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good. The cha cha is also not
Speaker 2: one of my favorite dances.
Speaker 3: Nope, I do prefer the tangoe stand up kind of
Speaker 3: sexy kind of dances.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he wasn't It wasn't bad. It certainly wasn't bad.
Speaker 2: This was not his best night overall. No, but he
Speaker 2: was not. It wasn't like, oh my god, that was
Speaker 2: a terrible dance.
Speaker 1: By his brother being in the audience throw him off
Speaker 1: his game.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that if the drinking game was
Speaker 3: take a shot. Every time they cut to Zach Effron
Speaker 3: when they were dead by the commercial, I just I
Speaker 3: felt bad because it's like, that's why the guy doesn't
Speaker 3: go anywhere.
Speaker 2: He's like, this is this is about my brother. Stop cutting.
Speaker 3: At one point it was like they literally were like
Speaker 3: and Jordan Childs gets ten ten ten, and they cut
Speaker 3: to zac Effron.
Speaker 2: I know, like, oh wait, he's not part of her family.
Speaker 2: Why you keep cutting to zac Efron?
Speaker 3: So I just felt bad that they kept cutting to
Speaker 3: the dude when it was it's supposed to be about
Speaker 3: Dylan and you know that's why he doesn't go places
Speaker 3: with his brothers.
Speaker 1: It's like, I wonder what the conversation was, Like, Zach
Speaker 1: was like, wait, when do you want me to come
Speaker 1: to the show.
Speaker 3: Dylan's like never, never, or Zach was like you know
Speaker 3: what again, bro, Yeah, here's what we'll do, little brother.
Speaker 3: Make it to the semifinals and I'll come walking away
Speaker 3: going like he's not getting it.
Speaker 2: That's never gonna happen.
Speaker 3: But no, it was again not his best night. I
Speaker 3: think he has more in him. We've seen more in him.
Speaker 3: He's so likable. She's amazing, Still totally rooting for them,
Speaker 3: excited to see what next week, totally should be through
Speaker 3: to the finals, excited to see what next week has
Speaker 3: in store.
Speaker 1: All right, nine, nine, and ten from the judges, and
Speaker 1: then Whitney and Mark.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought this was a little tame but good but good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And this was the one where Carrie and said this
Speaker 1: is the best dance you've ever done.
Speaker 2: Seven Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 1: I was surprised she said that to begin with, because
Speaker 1: he really I think Whitney's does a lot of great work.
Speaker 1: But then I remember that actually the ones that I
Speaker 1: liked the most, the two dances I like the most
Speaker 1: were her dedication and then the night like the next week,
Speaker 1: and I think in all cases yeah Halloween. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: in both cases you pointed out that she was out
Speaker 1: of sync, remember, and so I think that's why those
Speaker 1: weren't her best dances. But as far as like expressive
Speaker 1: capacity and like emotional connection, I thought she's done better.
Speaker 1: But I thought she was good.
Speaker 2: But I did not say this was the best dance
Speaker 2: she's ever done. But again it was.
Speaker 3: And now I feel a bit like I'm I'm bashing
Speaker 3: the person who was just kicked off or you know,
Speaker 3: but you know, professional dancer dance as well film at eleven.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's what you know. That's kind of
Speaker 3: what it was with me with her journey this year.
Speaker 3: She started as a really good dancer and she ended
Speaker 3: as a really good dancer. That's that's great, and and
Speaker 3: I love the fact that this was one of her
Speaker 3: dreams and she wanted to be on the show and
Speaker 3: all that journey.
Speaker 2: All that is great.
Speaker 3: But if I'm watching somebody learn how to dance, then
Speaker 3: I didn't watch a whole lot of her.
Speaker 1: Is she going back on Mormon Wives?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: I don't know how that.
Speaker 2: Were I think it.
Speaker 3: I think the third season just dropped, so I guess
Speaker 3: that's they've already shot it and she's not in it.
Speaker 2: No, she is. She was in the third season.
Speaker 3: She had to do that third season to do Dancing
Speaker 3: with the Stars because she didn't want to go back
Speaker 3: to the show, apparently, and then said, well, if you
Speaker 3: go back to the show, you can be on Dancing
Speaker 3: with the Stars.
Speaker 1: And her admitting that pissed people off.
Speaker 2: I know it was that's all.
Speaker 3: Somebody said that she was like raked over the coles
Speaker 3: this week for I don't know if she's the villain.
Speaker 2: Don't they have like a villain on.
Speaker 1: The villain on Mormon Wives is Satan. That's it. There's
Speaker 1: only one villain and alcohol.
Speaker 2: Take another sip of burbotan Satan and caffeine.
Speaker 1: Satan and Kaffy.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I think SODA's okay, now.
Speaker 2: Is it okay? Tar is not on unfortunately, but because
Speaker 2: she would know all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I this was the third person to cry in their
Speaker 1: pre dance back yet it's a lot of tears, a
Speaker 1: lot of emotion, which was like, okay, we're just getting
Speaker 1: to the finale, I guess. But it also it did
Speaker 1: lend a little bit of like attention to especially with
Speaker 1: Alex and Whitney. It made them a little more human
Speaker 1: for me. I agree, I've taken them for granted. I
Speaker 1: think you know that that they're because that they're both
Speaker 1: good dancers and they and so to see them both
Speaker 1: break down on their pre dance package, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh oh wow, yeah, yeah, there's artwork really hard.
Speaker 3: I have to imagine that distress is cumulative, so by
Speaker 3: week ten you're a frazzle mess of a raw nerve.
Speaker 3: You also forget by looking at them that I think,
Speaker 3: I mean, we googled it, Sue and I googled it.
Speaker 2: Alex is twenty four. She's a kid. I mean she's
Speaker 2: a kid.
Speaker 3: So that compared I think Whitney's like thirty two or
Speaker 3: something like that. And the difference between thirty two and
Speaker 3: twenty four is very big.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean you've got somebody like Robert who's twenty two,
Speaker 3: You've got somebody like Whitney who's twenty four. These are children,
Speaker 3: So it's you know, I think by this point, you're
Speaker 3: in the press for everything you do for weeks at
Speaker 3: a time, You're dancing for hours every single day.
Speaker 2: You've got to just be a raw nerve at this point.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I also imagine that there's this weird thing
Speaker 1: that must happen where you get on Dancing the Stars
Speaker 1: and it has to feel somewhat like a lark, you know, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm I'm going to do this thing
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna and then somewhere in there you really
Speaker 1: start to care about winning, Yeah, you know, in a
Speaker 1: new way, like because it becomes more and more possible,
Speaker 1: and it becomes less and less like it's an honor
Speaker 1: to be nominated more like wit freaking thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think it's It's one of those things
Speaker 3: too where my guess is, like, like a lot of
Speaker 3: things in life, but especially things like this, you have
Speaker 3: no idea what you're getting into when it comes to
Speaker 3: the press, when it comes to the dancing, when it
Speaker 3: comes to the physicality, when it comes to the live
Speaker 3: show nights, when it comes to your entire life being
Speaker 3: these eleven or twelve weeks. My guess is, until you
Speaker 3: do it, you have no idea what it's like, no clue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you.
Speaker 1: Think she regrets dropping the F bomb afterwards or whatever?
Speaker 1: She said?
Speaker 3: I don't know why she cited it, I asked, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they definitely, they bleeped it. But you know, you're on
Speaker 3: live TV in your alarment and you're throwing out the
Speaker 3: F bomb. That's that's a big one. But no, I
Speaker 3: think she'd already been kicked off. I think we were right.
Speaker 3: I think apparently she just had a rough week. But
Speaker 3: it's again it shows that it's not about the best
Speaker 3: dancers making it to the finals, because whether she would
Speaker 3: win or not. Again, I don't think anyone's going to
Speaker 3: beat Robert. But if it's just about the dancing, she
Speaker 3: deserved to be in the finals.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Then came Jordan and Ezra with the Argentine dango once again,
Speaker 1: breakthrough moment.
Speaker 3: She just walks in with her upside down like in
Speaker 3: that position.
Speaker 1: Crazy just perfect. Just this dance just brings out the
Speaker 1: best in everybody and.
Speaker 2: Again of it.
Speaker 1: Just like Danielle Vischel her legs. She's a very small
Speaker 1: person and yet manages with this dance to seem like
Speaker 1: long legged and all the things that it's just so
Speaker 1: fun God and man technically just challenging as hell. This
Speaker 1: might have been one of the most the way that
Speaker 1: they were kicking their legs around each other, which is
Speaker 1: always complicated in the Argentinian tango. This time I was like,
Speaker 1: this is even more. They were doing it on like
Speaker 1: another level.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 3: And it might have just been my feed or I
Speaker 3: might have been wrong, But did it seem like their
Speaker 3: kicks and the stuff they were doing were a bit slower.
Speaker 1: Than everybody else's.
Speaker 2: No, Okay, then I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Then again, my feed could have been glitching, because it
Speaker 3: seemed like there were times that that it was like
Speaker 3: kind of a slower version than some of the other
Speaker 3: ones we've seen.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe that's true, you know, But I just know
Speaker 1: that I was watching it going they're doing because like
Speaker 1: there will always be moments where you know, one partner's
Speaker 1: kicking in between the legs, right and then there would
Speaker 1: be like one moment where they're both kind of doing it.
Speaker 1: They had like multiple moments where they were I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna trip each other. Oh, somebody are gonna mess up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the case, and it's a takedown she's gotten.
Speaker 3: So I have to ask you a question. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: throw a real Sophie's choice at you. Hear something, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you've got one dance to save your life.
Speaker 2: Are you picking the passive dobla? Are you picking the
Speaker 2: Argentine tango?
Speaker 1: I could do that. I could. I could do the
Speaker 1: more attitude. Oh I could. I could stand in front
Speaker 1: of the bull. I could fling that woman around as
Speaker 1: my cape.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, as much as I like the Argentinian tango.
Speaker 1: That seems harder. I think I could come in with
Speaker 1: some attitude and command the station.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, happy trail blow.
Speaker 1: All right, Robert and Whitney bringing it out? Oh wait,
Speaker 1: what did.
Speaker 2: What did they get?
Speaker 1: What did the last ten's across the board? Jordan's first
Speaker 1: ten ten ten, which apparently she's never gotten a perfect
Speaker 1: score in gymnastics either, which seems crazy.
Speaker 3: It does, but I think it's way harder harder perfect
Speaker 3: scores and gymnastics at the Olympics than it is to
Speaker 3: get down.
Speaker 2: He's a death to get the star again.
Speaker 3: I haven't done either one, but I'm gonna throw that
Speaker 3: out there that it's probably more difficult. Both are important
Speaker 3: and important in her life, but I'm guessing tens across
Speaker 3: the board at the Olympic Games more difficult than tens
Speaker 3: from carry Ann Derek.
Speaker 2: I He's like, come on, oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: Robert and Whitney came out. I thought, did a phenomenal dance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another one once again.
Speaker 2: Yep, Derek gave a nine. Yeah. I didn't understand that either.
Speaker 1: Do you think he just felt a little like he
Speaker 1: was playing favorites too much with Robert and finally was like,
Speaker 1: I'll just give him a nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be safe. I'm just gonna I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna get Maybe. I don't know it.
Speaker 3: I didn't see why there was a nine thrown in there,
Speaker 3: it seemed, but it did. This was this kind of
Speaker 3: cemented it for me with Robert. He's just no one's
Speaker 3: gonna beat him.
Speaker 1: I went to a baby shower this weekend and met
Speaker 1: a woman who is a dancer with the Stars fan
Speaker 1: and we got into it, of course, as you do
Speaker 1: when you're a professional podcast host of Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars and you have to explain that to everything.
Speaker 2: But she did she know that you were doing that.
Speaker 1: No, she knew. She was a Boy Meets World fan too,
Speaker 1: and you know she's great, but but she you know,
Speaker 1: it was interesting. She just loves Robert I sort of.
Speaker 1: I know. I mean I knew, but I was, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to like feel her out, like, but don't you
Speaker 1: feel like he's kind of destined to win and and
Speaker 1: he doesn't need your support? She was like, no, I
Speaker 1: love him so much. I'm like, yeah, okay, I guess
Speaker 1: he's just the one everybody's hearts for some reason. I'm
Speaker 1: taking him for granted, or I'm just I'm a little less.
Speaker 3: My favorite, though, is so they put up our clip
Speaker 3: on the Instagram feed, and first of all, I will
Speaker 3: say to all of our fans out there who are
Speaker 3: who are following our Podmeatsworld, uh journey, love the passion.
Speaker 2: There's people that hated us, that loved us. They couldn't play.
Speaker 3: But to a person, because we criticized Robert, people were like,
Speaker 3: you don't know how difficult it is to work with animals.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I I do believe it or not.
Speaker 2: I understand I thought you were Shape's father.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, They're like and I'm like, I know,
Speaker 3: I get that he's twenty two years old and in
Speaker 3: phenomenal shape. He kind of alluded tonight to the fact
Speaker 3: he's like, when I was eleven years old and watching
Speaker 3: my sister, if you told me, I would have been
Speaker 3: been here, like, he's wanted to do this forever. So
Speaker 3: the idea that he's never danced from that moment to
Speaker 3: now until he started dancing with the stars, I don't
Speaker 3: buy that. I'm not saying he went out there and
Speaker 3: had dance lessons left and right. But he's done some dancing,
Speaker 3: I will bet. Yes, not taking away from anything, and yes,
Speaker 3: I understand wrestling crocodiles is a very difficult and tough job.
Speaker 3: Not saying that at all. What I'm saying is it
Speaker 3: seems like everyone wants him to win. That's that's all
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and I don't disagree with that. I think
Speaker 3: he frankly deserves to at this point.
Speaker 1: Does he actually wrestle crocodiles?
Speaker 2: Does he think so don't you. Well, I think, you know,
Speaker 2: he does a thing where he's like, all right, Crocky,
Speaker 2: just everyone quiet, quiet.
Speaker 3: And then he jumps up behind him and puts his
Speaker 3: hands over their thing and like, no, I've got him.
Speaker 2: This is big Noigel like that kind of Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I think he does that kind of So
Speaker 3: that's what his dad used to do, you know, So
Speaker 3: I think I think he does the same kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And yes, I get that's very difficult. I wasn't saying
Speaker 3: he's in bad shape. I'm saying that I think he's
Speaker 3: probably been doing.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: So I was like, wait, what, Yes, so no, I get.
Speaker 3: I just think they they a lot of people want
Speaker 3: him to win.
Speaker 2: They love him. Everyone loves him and frankly rightfully, so.
Speaker 1: He's super dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah it.
Speaker 3: Now, here's my question, based just on journey from where
Speaker 3: they started to where they ended, who do you think
Speaker 3: improved the most as a dancer so far?
Speaker 1: It's really hard. I think I think it's between Jordan
Speaker 1: and Dylan for me, really, and I think Jordan obviously
Speaker 1: had the athleticism, so she had to learn the sort
Speaker 1: of emotionality, you know, she had to learn how the
Speaker 1: expressiveness and how to adapt to choreography, I think, and
Speaker 1: I love that journey for her, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it's really been appreciated enough. And Dylan, I guess, just
Speaker 1: strikes me as the everyman who made right. Do you
Speaker 1: know in a way that like what you're talking about, Robert,
Speaker 1: I don't feel. I don't feel like robertson every Man.
Speaker 1: I agree the same to the same degree that I
Speaker 1: do with Dylan. With Dylan, I feel like I'm watching
Speaker 1: somebody who's also very athletic, has but is not. You
Speaker 1: could tell when he started is just like not super
Speaker 1: comfortable with dancing as a as a form, Like it's
Speaker 1: not doesn't come naturally to him.
Speaker 3: When they showed that clip of his first dance and
Speaker 3: the one that we were we were at, it was like, oh,
Speaker 3: oh my god, that's right, that's where he started.
Speaker 1: So I at least star journeys.
Speaker 2: Who would you say, I would say Dylan and Alex.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say Dylan and Alex really had because
Speaker 3: I think you're right at the beginning with Alex, she
Speaker 3: had the steps but was kind of didn't buy it
Speaker 3: or was a little soulless when she was doing it,
Speaker 3: and then to throw in the fact that she's twenty
Speaker 3: four to just see like where she ended up tonight
Speaker 3: and last week with what she did, that's a that's
Speaker 3: a big step for me. Those so I think those
Speaker 3: two so far have had the big the biggest progress.
Speaker 1: But I think I think the finale is going to
Speaker 1: come down to Alex versus Robert. Yeah right, yeah, Alex
Speaker 1: for just pure dance ability are consistently insane numbers all
Speaker 1: over the map. Yeah, and then Robert is beloved. I
Speaker 1: think Robert's still gonna win, But I would I would
Speaker 1: love to give him or run for the money.
Speaker 2: I would love to be able to look at the
Speaker 2: scores from.
Speaker 3: The weeks, like, I mean, is it one of those
Speaker 3: things where it's like I'm making up a number. We
Speaker 3: got twenty five million votes, you know, twenty two million
Speaker 3: are for Robert and the other three are scattered out
Speaker 3: through the rest of the people.
Speaker 2: I mean, is it like, is it so close?
Speaker 1: It so far?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Is it one of those things where there's three people
Speaker 3: in the world that already know, like he gets fifteen
Speaker 3: million of the seventeen million votes a week, we get
Speaker 3: like he's already one.
Speaker 2: Essentially, do you think there's one or two people that
Speaker 2: already know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably man, yeah, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows.
Speaker 2: You could be super close.
Speaker 1: I don't know. And what I want to know is
Speaker 1: do they share that information with the judges? They must,
Speaker 1: whether they have they we do or not. You know,
Speaker 1: they're just like Robert did really well last week.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's that, yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Surprisingly Andy's still holding his own. You know, there's back
Speaker 1: channel information right in little you know, conversations with the urinal.
Speaker 3: Exactly right, exactly what the water cooler conversation, Oh god,
Speaker 3: the Dancing with the Stars water cooler conversation.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a skit you want to write.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh my god, I'm already writing in my head
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Argentinian tangles.
Speaker 3: The legs are flicking as they're trying to talk about
Speaker 3: what's going on where.
Speaker 1: They're speaking in code with the legs. It's like semaphore.
Speaker 1: They're like communicating with that. I'm not going to tell
Speaker 1: you who won, but.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's it is. It's like that.
Speaker 3: And then the one of them walks up to ask
Speaker 3: the other one out, and he's like, hey, can I
Speaker 3: get your numbers? She's like sure, seven like that kind so,
Speaker 3: oh my god, there's so many different jokes going through
Speaker 3: my head.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: We came to elimination, which seemed kind of predictable unto
Speaker 1: it wasn't there and I was waiting.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, do we say what Robert got? Because I
Speaker 2: cut you off?
Speaker 1: Uh? He actually got one?
Speaker 3: Nine?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah we did because Derek came to nine. We did. Derek, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's my callback. Sometimes they don't know work m hmm
Speaker 2: uh yeah.
Speaker 1: So, man, I was pretty convinced Jordan was going home
Speaker 1: when it got down to you thought, when it got
Speaker 1: down how about when they were all just standing there,
Speaker 1: they hadn't sent a single name yet, who did you
Speaker 1: think was going home by that point? Elene?
Speaker 2: Me too. I thought it was a layer Dylan. Frankly, Man,
Speaker 2: I thought Dylan had at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I thought Dylan had the weakest dancing night
Speaker 3: to right.
Speaker 1: But think about consistency, Like Elaine did have some sixes
Speaker 1: and seven throughout the season and that and didn't dance
Speaker 1: one week, And I feel like has Dylan, Like I
Speaker 1: guess he's had he had some early sevens and sixes,
Speaker 1: but like he's been like eight plus for weeks now.
Speaker 1: I just feel like everybody else was in a different category.
Speaker 1: And you know, Elene is there for the journey and
Speaker 1: her story, but I was pretty sure she was going
Speaker 1: home when she got through right off the bat. It
Speaker 1: was like, well okay, And you.
Speaker 2: Know they did that on intentionally.
Speaker 3: Know everybody like you and I were sitting there going well,
Speaker 3: they know they know no Elaine's going home.
Speaker 2: So we're the first one we're going to announce is
Speaker 2: that a Laine is safe, and it is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, Like I'm trying to think how
Speaker 1: I felt, because I've watched American Idol, Like that's the
Speaker 1: show I've watched we start to finish through seasons many
Speaker 1: times me too, and enjoyed a lot, and I'm I
Speaker 1: don't like Dancing with the Stars. I feel like I
Speaker 1: want to keep watching even if everybody I like gets
Speaker 1: voted off. I don't know if I'd say the same
Speaker 1: thing about American Idol in other words, interesting. I don't
Speaker 1: know why that is. Maybe I just still watch American
Speaker 1: Idol for the singing a little bit more, and so
Speaker 1: if like all my favorite singers get off of mine,
Speaker 1: I don't care anymore. Whereas with this, like I want
Speaker 1: to keep watching like I'm right. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what that speaks to you. I don't know, but.
Speaker 2: I watched old school Idol. I haven't watched in a while.
Speaker 3: But the one thing I did like about Idol that
Speaker 3: that throws me about Dance with the Star still is
Speaker 3: the judging. Meaning, like the judges on IDLE, they're gonna
Speaker 3: be harsh or they're going to not be harsher to take,
Speaker 3: but their feedback and their scores don't matter.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't actually have scores, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: They don't matter.
Speaker 1: They're just these are opinions and coaching and feedback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe some people are going to agree with
Speaker 3: Simon and vote against somebody or something like that.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, they just know it's a.
Speaker 3: Popularity contest and they're going to vote somebody through it,
Speaker 3: and so they at least don't try to hide it
Speaker 3: under the fact that it's like and the judges scores
Speaker 3: get forty five point two percent.
Speaker 1: Actually, maybe that's why I like this more, is because
Speaker 1: I feel like I will learn something about dancing even
Speaker 1: if all of my favorite dancers get kicked off. So
Speaker 1: actually I think it might be it.
Speaker 3: You can learn something about this, a discipline that we
Speaker 3: know nothing about, whereas idole, you can't really learn anything
Speaker 3: about singing.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, that's what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: so I think if all my favorite singers get kicked
Speaker 1: off the IDOL, I don't keep watching because there's no
Speaker 1: reason too. I'm like, oh, the entertainment factor has gone
Speaker 1: for me and the education factor is not really there.
Speaker 2: How do you do that as a TV show?
Speaker 3: How do you shut off a show with like weeks
Speaker 3: left to find out?
Speaker 2: How do you not complete that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That would kill me.
Speaker 1: I don't complete most TV shows.
Speaker 3: I say, oh, I have to complete everything. I mean
Speaker 3: a horrible book right now, and you have just I
Speaker 3: have to.
Speaker 1: I can't TV shows. I tap out pretty consistently. Episode
Speaker 1: three or four, I'm like, all right, I'll wait to
Speaker 1: see if anybody tells me this is worth it. Even
Speaker 1: if I love it the first second, I'll be like cool.
Speaker 1: By the third one, I'm like when they're well, now
Speaker 1: they're dragging this out. They couldn't wrap it up like
Speaker 1: a movie, so they're just gonna keep it going every week.
Speaker 1: It's like lost, Oh, you have polar Bears. We forgot
Speaker 1: about dude. Now it's a time travel thing and.
Speaker 3: Every season is just going what the is happening right now?
Speaker 3: Now there's a smoke monster? What that hell is going on?
Speaker 1: Tap out?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: So came down to the bottom three which are not
Speaker 1: maybe technically the bottom three three three couples stand Which
Speaker 1: who were who wasn't? In this case, it was Jordan.
Speaker 2: It was It was Witty Whitney, Jordan and.
Speaker 1: Dylan, right, is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: And I was, yeah, I was like, oh, Jordan's going
Speaker 1: home and that situation. Only I thought there was a
Speaker 1: chance it could have been Dylan. I thought there was
Speaker 1: a chance it could have been Dylan. I just thought that.
Speaker 1: I figured the week is night, Yeah, but I figured
Speaker 1: his popularity was would override. But man, Whitney gone gone.
Speaker 3: If you go back and watch it again, she didn't
Speaker 3: seem shocked. She really didn't see So, I mean, my
Speaker 3: guess is the stuff we've heard about all this stuff
Speaker 3: going on on the internet this week shatter.
Speaker 2: She obviously watches all that stuff too. She's a young
Speaker 2: so she's on all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So she was probably like, I'll bet you at some
Speaker 3: point this week, I will I will bet all the
Speaker 3: money in my pockets right now. At some point this
Speaker 3: week she looked at her partner and went, I'm going
Speaker 3: home this week. You watched it as a matter how
Speaker 3: good we dance, They're gonna send me home this week.
Speaker 3: I will guarantee you that conversation took place.
Speaker 1: Well, who do you think is gonna win it all?
Speaker 2: Robert's right, what are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 1: I guess we'll just we'll get to watch one final.
Speaker 3: Okay, so then let's let's reverse. It would the biggest
Speaker 3: shock of the season for you be Robert not winning
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 2: Yes, at this point, me too.
Speaker 3: It would be a bigger shock in Whitney leaving tonight
Speaker 3: would be Robert not winning the show.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: And it's been like a straight shot to the bulls
Speaker 1: eye since his first dance.
Speaker 3: We kept saying where do you go from here? He
Speaker 3: started at eleven? You and I were five feet away.
Speaker 3: We need when he did that dance.
Speaker 2: We're like, well, that's it. Where are you gonna go
Speaker 2: shut yourself in the foot? Nope, you just kept it
Speaker 2: at eleven, kept it at eleven. Pretty smart.
Speaker 3: It's like the thing that Pam says in the office
Speaker 3: where He's like, Hey, how are you gonna run that
Speaker 3: race today? She's like, well, I'm gonna start fast and
Speaker 3: then in the middle, i'm gonna go fast, and then
Speaker 3: I'm gonna end fast.
Speaker 2: And he's like, Wow, why don't more people do that?
Speaker 2: And that's what it's like. That's Robert.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna start at eleven and I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna keep it there.
Speaker 2: Great, good plan.
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