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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, No, who has the Jews?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis. I come to you from

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Speaker 1: a virtual room that is filled, yes, thankfully filled with

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Speaker 1: heroes Greg ros Adal, Mark Sessler, and the great, the iconic,

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Speaker 1: the unstoppable Chris Westling. What's up boys? Hey Dan? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: listen to that. I like that? Hey Dan West? Well,

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Speaker 1: hey after that, Introy, I gotta bring a little bit

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Speaker 1: yes West joining us as he did last week for

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Speaker 1: the lead off game, and we're incredibly thankful to have

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Speaker 1: the whole gang of heroes together on the Visual Round weekend,

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Speaker 1: pound for pound, the best weekend of football in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the games weren't classic this weekend, but every game

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to talk about leading up

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Speaker 1: to it and dissect after it. It's through and that's

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do on today's show. And of course,

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Speaker 1: uh Mark Sessler. Um, really he has become one of

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Speaker 1: the more famous Browns fans. I would say in the country.

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Speaker 1: I think you could actually say that at this point

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Speaker 1: when you really break it down, it's you, Well, it's

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Speaker 1: Drew carry first, right, um, And then like I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's kind of out of the mix right now.

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Speaker 1: Now carry's doing prices right, Let's be fair. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: a huge game show still but number two is a

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Speaker 1: bit of a dog fight. And and then Mark is

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Speaker 1: obviously well known for his Brown Brown's fandom. Their season

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Speaker 1: came to a conclusion today, but the dogs went down, Uh,

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Speaker 1: growling and fighting. Uh and Mark, how you feeling right now?

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Speaker 1: I know the audience wants to know I'm doing fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's you know. I I think part of it is

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Speaker 1: I'm forty seven years old, so uh, win or lose,

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of other things happening in life.

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Speaker 1: I thought they the better team one, and um, I

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Speaker 1: think that helps when you lose a playoff game when

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of questions about who the better

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Speaker 1: team is. Um, but I'm proud of them. And Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's it's the start of something. I hope. If it's

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Speaker 1: a flash in the pan and the window got shut,

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Speaker 1: then I'm annoyed. But I don't know that that's the

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Speaker 1: case right now. It's true, you never know. You never know.

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Speaker 1: The big assumption and the mistake fans make all the

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Speaker 1: time is out. We'll be back there next year. You

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Speaker 1: never know. However, you know, Mark and we talked about

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Speaker 1: this privately after you know, it feels like things are

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Speaker 1: on the right path in Cleveland. This seems like a

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Speaker 1: nucleus that's in place. We have time to get into

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Speaker 1: all that. When we talk that game, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: like last week and super wild card weekend and not

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Speaker 1: super divisional around though. See how that's when the bill

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Speaker 1: comes to. If you build up wild card round is super,

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Speaker 1: you make the divisional round look like Hell, they've kind

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Speaker 1: of they've kind of got the whole best like weekend

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Speaker 1: and football thing. They should trademark that since everyone just

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Speaker 1: says it. Anyways, and Sunday came through for us. It

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Speaker 1: was looking a little shaky. The Saturday games didn't quite

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Speaker 1: mean they got to think about that, Marcus. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is what they've started. They've opened up Pandora's box,

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Speaker 1: all right. So we'll go in reverse chronological order, uh,

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Speaker 1: starting with the game that just concluded at the Superdome.

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Speaker 1: It was the end of an arrow Buccaneers defense. Four

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Speaker 1: We're in business, deep in States territory. Drger Off w

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Speaker 1: f us Yes, the Bucks collected three picks from Drew

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Speaker 1: and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers advanced to the NFC Title

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Speaker 1: Game with a thirty the twenty win over the Saints

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Speaker 1: at the Superdome. The Bucks are back in the NFL's

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Speaker 1: since their Super Bowl season of two thousand two and

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling. This was a wonderful showcase for their defense

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Speaker 1: no you know, that's no coincidence. He he is often everywhere.

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Speaker 1: He sometimes makes mistakes, but in this game he was everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I saw you tweeted it, Dan, and it was a

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Speaker 1: case of Drew Brees is generosity. Really, the Bucks were

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Speaker 1: But actually I think it was a quote from someone's father.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's Tom Brady's dead, um. And that's what happened

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Speaker 1: a case of almost student meets master. In terms of

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, Um, I think all year long regarded as

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Speaker 1: an aggressive um play caller, a talented play caller who

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Speaker 1: put the Browns in good situations. Uh, and Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: the master. I don't think Stefanski won this matchup. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There were too many just little mistakes for the Browns,

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Speaker 1: and you know it watching this thing. When they lost

433
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Speaker 1: Jed Wills their left tackle on like the first play

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Speaker 1: out of the out of the gate, that was concerning

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Speaker 1: to me. Um that I don't know if that caused

436
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Speaker 1: total problems, but there was a lot more pressure on

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Speaker 1: big er Mayfield this week then there was last week

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Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh when there was essentially none and it was

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00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: just a little things. You know that when watching this

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Speaker 1: team all year, when they're when they're flowing well and

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Speaker 1: when they're in sync, Um, their best players are doing

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00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: things that Browns fans haven't watched players on that team

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Speaker 1: do a long time. That wasn't the case today. I mean,

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00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: they made a couple of plays, but it was these

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Speaker 1: uncharacteristic sort of back to back drops by Nick Chubb

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Speaker 1: that I thought just killed them. Um, a couple of

447
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Speaker 1: moments where they're wanting defense just couldn't get to the

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Speaker 1: edge to shut down the Tyreek Hills of the world

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Speaker 1: of the world. And uh, you know to Stefanski, Um,

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Speaker 1: there was I thought a catch he should have challenged

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Speaker 1: where they didn't get the flag out on time, and

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Speaker 1: a catch they shouldn't have challenged where I think they

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Speaker 1: just did have a good look at it, and they

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Speaker 1: did and they lost that challenge. Uh there were time

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Speaker 1: out in the time out situation in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: where Baker Took was forced to take a time out

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Speaker 1: because they were disorganized. Um. I thought that it just

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Speaker 1: all those little moments um served to really uh reek

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Speaker 1: havoc on them in their chance us to win. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about the biggest play of the game,

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Speaker 1: which was the Donovan Peoples Jones or sorry, the Rochard

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00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: Higgins Um catch and fumble that went out of the

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Speaker 1: end zone where to me it looks like a helmet

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Speaker 1: to helmet hit there. There were a couple of things

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Speaker 1: happening there. I'll let you guys win on that. That

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Speaker 1: rule bugs me, but I think it bugs everyone. Um.

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Speaker 1: But that's the way it is. I think the better

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Speaker 1: team one and the way that how aggressive they were

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Speaker 1: with Henny Um. It says a lot about the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and it gives a lot the Browns a lot to

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Speaker 1: think about during a long offseason. I mean, it says

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Speaker 1: so much because everything you say is is right, Mark,

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Speaker 1: and yet it's their third and fourteen there with you

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Speaker 1: know a little over two and a half to go

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Speaker 1: and Chad Henny's at quarterback and you're thinking, well, Baker

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Speaker 1: is going to get the ball back with enough time,

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Speaker 1: um to go, try to win the game with a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And for any ready to call a pass on that play,

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Speaker 1: is is ball's ear? To me? Then? Calling? Uh the

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Speaker 1: fourth and one call where Henny throws it. How about

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Speaker 1: a call that he trust Chad Henny to throw it

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Speaker 1: on second and eight to play before that where they're

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Speaker 1: running it well, where Henny does take the second That

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Speaker 1: that that to me was almost like you're getting crazy here.

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Speaker 1: You're showing a lack of faith in a run game

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Speaker 1: that struggled all year but actually was shot on first

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Speaker 1: at the fort with a chance to get an all

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Speaker 1: important field goal and drown the clock. Now now that

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Speaker 1: that too like it was all crazy. I mean like

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Speaker 1: there was all I don't think it was crazy. I

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Speaker 1: think it was Andy Reid doing what the Chiefs do best,

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Speaker 1: which is throw the football. And Henny earned some of

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Speaker 1: that faith because other than that interception, he played about

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Speaker 1: as well as you could have wanted. There was a

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Speaker 1: third and five where he made a great decision to

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Speaker 1: keep that winning drive going, or that final drive going

497
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Speaker 1: to Damian Williams. There was another baby to Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 1: over the middle that that set up their field goal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Henny made some nice made some nice throws,

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Speaker 1: but man, Andy Reid, to me, he's just like the

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Speaker 1: ultimate past. First, I'm gonna I'm gonna go down passing

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Speaker 1: because the numbers say it it's a passing league, and

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Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. I'm gonna keep Brian

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Speaker 1: Westbrook on the field all the time and key situation.

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Speaker 1: People have been killing Andy Read about this for twenty years,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like the NFL is kind of like

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Speaker 1: starting to catch up with Andy Read. The rest of

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Speaker 1: the NFL now looks more like the Chiefs. You say

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Speaker 1: that what the Chiefs do best is throw the football. Yes,

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Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes. After Mahomes goes out of the game

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Speaker 1: with that very strange, by the way, concussion, because we've

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Speaker 1: sadly seen it, seen hundreds and hundreds of concussions over

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Speaker 1: the years enough to know the telltale signs whether it's

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Speaker 1: a helmet helmet hit or a helmet smacking the turf. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes hit was strange. But he came up and he

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Speaker 1: looked like Uh, he was, you know, in another universe.

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Speaker 1: And he was out of the game the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: So when you enter Chad Henny, who before the week

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Speaker 1: seventeen meaningless start hadn't played since two thousand four, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: And then you're putting the game in his hands in

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Speaker 1: that situation. Um, I tweeted right before the third and

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Speaker 1: long at the end of the game, there I said,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs fans, everybody wants Andy not to throw it, hand

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Speaker 1: the ball off and if you just play conservative, you

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Speaker 1: can get the ball back to your defense. UM up

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Speaker 1: five with the Browns hopefully inside there on twenty with

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Speaker 1: no timeouts and eighty seconds to play, and and yet

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Speaker 1: he said, no, I'm gonna go for it. It was

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Speaker 1: onions at a level that arrivals really did anything. A

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Speaker 1: little bit of all gone huge onions that I can remember.

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Speaker 1: And after the game, Honey Badger, who by the way,

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Speaker 1: played awesome when where he gets to the Chiefs performance

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Speaker 1: from their stars on defense and a second, here's what

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Speaker 1: Honey Badger had to say about Andy Reid's play calling

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Speaker 1: at the end. Hey man, that that's why we love

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Speaker 1: Big grand you know, he's always on time, you know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's like, oh, spirit warrior out here, you know, beyond

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00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: the scenes. You know, he's always firing U stuff. But

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Speaker 1: we always though he got one play at the table,

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Speaker 1: you know, one play in the chamber. M M. I

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Speaker 1: love the point. Romo made great job all day by

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Speaker 1: Romo too. I mean, build it. God, I love, I

543
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: love listening to me. Just learned so much. But the

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Speaker 1: way that they, you know, approached that play on fourth

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Speaker 1: and one and intentionally tried to look lack of days ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's practiced that that was part of it.

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00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: They tried to look lack of daysicle coming into it.

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Speaker 1: And I and I do believe what Romo said where

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00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: it was if they got a certain look, which is

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00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: basically you know, Tyreek having leverage on the outside to

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Speaker 1: basically anyone like if if that was the lineup, go

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Speaker 1: do it. You know, chat at. He's a professional. He's

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00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: actually looked. I know it's such a small sample size,

554
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: but when he came in late in some of these blowouts,

555
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: he looked. He looked good this year, and maybe that

556
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: helped give a little confidence. You know, Matt Moore coming

557
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: in last year playing well, it's like it's not just

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00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: Matt Patrick Mahomes that makes this team go. And uh,

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00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: I think that should be a lesson for coaches because

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00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: you do what what what got you there? And there

561
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: were some offensive teams like like the Titans and to

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00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: a lesser extent, the Steelers. Who I mean, the Steelers

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Speaker 1: didn't punt in that situation down two scores with fifteen

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Speaker 1: minutes left to the gate. But it's like, I mean,

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00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: the Steelers did put in that situation. It's crazy. Did

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Speaker 1: you have a problem with Cleveland punting when they did

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Speaker 1: with about five minutes ago. I didn't hate it. It

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Speaker 1: wouldve or so it was it was fourth and nine, No,

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Speaker 1: But I hated how slow that they spent almost four

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Speaker 1: minutes to go eleven yards. And that was from from

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Speaker 1: the first second. That seems so obvious, like you're you're

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Speaker 1: playing like your head I know, Chad Henny's on the

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Speaker 1: other side. And I did think when they punted, I

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Speaker 1: wonder if they would have punted if Mahomes was still playing,

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Speaker 1: I would think, No, well, I don't think you could.

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00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: And also the it had Mahomes been playing the whole time,

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00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: it would be a different game, right, I mean, that's

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00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: the thing is like from a Cleveland side. You gotta

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Speaker 1: come out of this scene. There's no question the better

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00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: team one. Um, you know, it would have been a

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00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: little suspicious. I think, uh, you know, going forward for

582
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: the narrative of Cleveland one, because Chad Henny was in there. Um,

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00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: I think this is a Browns team that fought this

584
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Chief's team. I mean it is. It was kind of

585
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: my first experience watching the team I'm rooting for. Deal

586
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, and like, I mean, Travis Kelsey was

587
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: driving me nuts. Tyreek Hill was driving me absolutely crazy.

588
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 1: And I know you guys, I love Romo too, all right,

589
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: but when you're on the wrong end of a game

590
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: and Romo is like a giddy schoolgirl at the end

591
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: of the thing, I was like, get this guy off.

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00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, someone's like I thought, you love Tony Roon

593
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: like I do love Tony. Romo's driving nuts right now,

594
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: get him out of here. Like, I don't want to

595
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: hear about this guy because but yeah, chi and he's

596
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback and he said it twice I think in

597
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: the first quarter alone, Um, he's in love with Mahomes

598
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. And he mentioned his instincts, specifically his ability,

599
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: and I thought it was Oh man, it was sad

600
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: to see him first get hobbled with a toe injury

601
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: and you don't know what that is if that's turf toe,

602
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: which is can be a debility to injury for anyone.

603
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: And now he's got the head injury. So that's, you know,

604
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: obviously a big subplot now as we head towards the

605
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: a f C title game, Mahomes's availability. I I would think,

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00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to read too much into this and

607
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: be the Twitter neurologist, but the fact that he was tweeting,

608
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: like repeatedly after the game and doing bits about Chad

609
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: Henny on Twitter that anything is possible. I thought that

610
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: if you're if you're anything Twitter, maybe you are. Somebody

611
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: said he's a little young for dad jokes, but the

612
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: point is that he wasn't you know, Uh, curtain's closed

613
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: in a dark room, not knowing where he was. We'll see,

614
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: hopefully we as much as we respect with Chad Henny

615
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: did today, we don't need to see anymore Chad Henny

616
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Speaker 1: in our lives. Um Mark, did you have any other

617
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: issues with because I didn't. Yeah, I would think this

618
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: is a game I'd like to kind of go back

619
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Speaker 1: and watch. I feel like Stefanski, if he could do

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00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: some things differently, he would. Nick Chubb did not have

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Speaker 1: a good first half. He had those drops, Canna get

622
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: things going on the ground, and Cream Hunt wasn't in

623
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: the game plan at all. That that was on my

624
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: radar a little bit. Did you have any issues with

625
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: how he deployed some of his plans? I totally agree

626
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: with you. I I my thought, you know, because this

627
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: wasn't a game where I took extensive notes just because

628
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna this could be over real soon.

629
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I want to just experience this. But my one thought,

630
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, throughout the game was that the Chiefs defense,

631
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: which was just nasty. I thought today when it needed

632
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: to be, had a better plan for Nick Chubb and

633
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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt than the Browns did. I mean, at least

634
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: the way it played out in the Wash. I mean

635
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: there was a couple there was a pocket of about

636
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Speaker 1: ten twelve minutes um where Chubb really got going and

637
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Hunt had a couple of plays too. But you'd have

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Speaker 1: to say overall, um that you know, I think they

639
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Speaker 1: like combined twelve eighteen yards at halftime. There's games like

640
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: that where they have not. They just not followed the

641
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: script you'd expect. And it's not because they were smarter

642
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: than the competition and so, um, it's a it's a

643
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: stepping stone, but they met the best team in the

644
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: a f C. And I think maybe the Chiefs felt

645
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know, maybe we just put

646
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: this on these teams, but it's like, oh, maybe the

647
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: ray can challenge the Packers and like, look at the

648
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: Browns are frisky. Maybe they gets like and the Chiefs are.

649
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are kind of like, um, yeah, we haven't

650
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: played in a while with our starters, but don't forget

651
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: about us, because we still controp the hardest tammer in

652
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: the league if we want to. Well, I think that

653
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs taking the early lead was significant

654
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: because you know, the Browns do shorten games. That's a cliche,

655
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: that's true, but you short when you shorten them and

656
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: you're behind, and they shorten him on both sides because

657
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: they play a slope paced defense that sort of asked

658
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: the other team to go on these long drives and

659
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: they couldn't. You couldn't hold up in the red zone,

660
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: so that the Browns had three drives in the first half.

661
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: They only had seven in the whole game, and and

662
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: you're right, you kind of look at the run pass

663
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: balance and Baker ends up throwing thirty seven times and

664
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Speaker 1: under average. You know, I thought Baker threw the ball great,

665
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: but the average under six yards per attempt, so ultimately

666
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: wasn't a great, you know day throwing the ball Landry.

667
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he had seven catches for for twenty yards.

668
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: You know, Hooper makes that one play finally, but they

669
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: got a little out of balance, but it's partly because

670
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: you're you're behind. I do think it was a missed

671
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: opportunity that I'm with you Mark that the better team

672
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: one um. And what I just don't think the Browns

673
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: were gonna win the Super Bowl with this defense. And

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00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: I think that that that showed today. That said, when

675
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: Matthew got the interception and it's nineteen three and the

676
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: Browns force of three and out, uh and they missed

677
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: the field goal, Like, the defense showed you something that

678
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: the Chief didn't score a touchdown the whole second half,

679
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: and so the defense kind of did give them a

680
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: their offensive chance. They're entering the fourth quarter, you're only

681
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: down five, and Mahomes is out. I mean, they had

682
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: they had a chance here to to win this game.

683
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: At least it would have been I don't want to

684
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: twist the knife, but on the other end of it

685
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: when itv and hen he throws that punt and Lamar

686
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Jackson pumped his fist because it's no longer the worst

687
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: interception of the playoffs. Uh, it felt like it was.

688
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: The everything was aligned at that point and I thought,

689
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: I thought for sure Baker Mayfield was going to lead

690
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: them down the field there, and they don't. They they

691
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: moved the ball methodically and then punched away and never

692
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: get of the ball back. And I just before we

693
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: we move on, we should touch on the Richard Higgins play,

694
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: because it was sixteen three late in the second quarter.

695
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: The Browns are getting the ball on the other side

696
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: of the half as well, and Mayfield throws a strike

697
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: to Higgins, who loses control of the ball just shy

698
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: the goal line. Sputtered out of the end zone and

699
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: through the back through the you know, side of the

700
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: end zone with a Brown by the way, it should

701
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: be noted crashing in ready to scoop the ball up,

702
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: but it bounces the wrong way and it's a touch back.

703
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: I know there was um heat about. They thought it

704
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: was a dirty um hit by the Chiefs H Daniel Sorenson,

705
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: dirty Dan, as he's known by some. Um. I didn't

706
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: see it quite that way, but I can understand why

707
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: someone would see that, see that as an illegal hit. UM.

708
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: But mostly I again not to be labor this, but

709
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: that's such a bad rule. It's just gotta be changed.

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00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: It's way too it's way too aggressive a penalty on

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: a team. Uh, and it cost the Browns in a

712
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: big way. That could have been sixteen ten with the

713
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Browns having the ball to start the third quarter, and

714
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: yet it wasn't. I thought Bill cower Um had a

715
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: good suggestion, and maybe he's not the first person to

716
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: suggest this, but that the penalty could say the offense

717
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: instead of the defense getting the ball at the twenty,

718
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: the offense gets pushed back to the twenty. And it's like,

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00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: all right, look, it's it's it's it's a really steep penalty,

720
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: and it would be like it's rare, and yet you're

721
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: it shouldn't swing the game the way it does. And

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00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a dirty hit, but just it

723
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: was a helmet to helmet hit and It wasn't dirty,

724
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: but it was a penalty right just by the by

725
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: the I think a lot of I watch a lot

726
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: of helmet to helmet stuff, and I'm like, you try

727
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: to teach, like we get it. You're trying to teach

728
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: a defensive player soaring in to move his head. I mean,

729
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: it seems ridiculous you're gonna get these penalties. But Sorenson,

730
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of a it was he

731
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: dove different reasons he dove. I, um, you want to

732
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: give some you You mentioned Honey Badger. It occurred to

733
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: me during this game because someone tweeted about it, and

734
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, that's right. Like he

735
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: I think someday, I think he might be a Hall

736
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: of Famer. Like he's got to keep like going through this,

737
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: but doing this in Key spots, man, he was all

738
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: over the place. And they pay a few guys so

739
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: much money, they're so top heavy their roster. Honey Badgers

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00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: one of them, and like he earned that. And Chris Jones.

741
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: I don't think he dominated today, but I thought he

742
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: got pretty good pressure and he made the two key

743
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: plays that stopped that fourth quarter drive. And so it's like, well,

744
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: that's why you pay him million dollars and uh, and

745
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I do want to apology a lot of people in

746
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: my Twitter mentions, I've been asking all playoff long, Austin Hooper,

747
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: make a play, make a playoff. My god, he made

748
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: a play to keep their season that they could have

749
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: been moving on because of that Austin Hooper play. So

750
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: the Browns came close, but just the beginning, hopefully. Mark. Again,

751
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: you can't make assumptions and just assume an organization is

752
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: just gonna contin in you on an upward trajectory. But

753
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: history and all sports, all the great teams almost always

754
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: and well almost always is strong. But in many, many

755
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: cases there is that crushing playoff loss when the team's

756
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: on the rise, and then you grow and you build

757
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: off that, and then you're back in that spot the

758
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: following year and you find a way to climb the hill.

759
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Hopefully that's where the Browns are. And Mark, this is

760
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: more because we all love Tony Romo and we love football,

761
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: and it was an exciting end of the game. This

762
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: is you can feel free to take out your earpiece

763
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: for this part. Romo's call with Jim Nance was excellent

764
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: on the final play with Chad Henny, so I asked

765
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: Ricky to cut that as well. Let's listen right here,

766
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, really smart. Send everybody out there. You got

767
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: cuts right, You're trying to try them draw him off sides.

768
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: Kick a time out, check it down, let the talk click,

769
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: try and draw him off sides. Pick Henny in the gun,

770
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: rock up the time. You're gonna go ahead and quarterback

771
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: sneak and motion back, trying toll the moost sides, and

772
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: then take the time out. You walk up there and

773
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: say no play everybody, don't there's no plenty. Just look

774
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: at the body language can take that. There is any

775
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: rolling out throws to the championship, gets shock. There's no way.

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00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: He's everybody. He's number one, He's my number one in

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00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: the power. He does that stuff like, I mean, can

778
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: you see my point a little bit? Though? In my house,

779
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you know, he loves well. I hear

780
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: is Mark sucks, Mark sucks, Mark sucks, like that's all

781
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm listening to you. But when I hear that, I

782
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: think Andy Reid onions for days and days and days.

783
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Let's move on, Lamar Jackson. He's gonna try and get

784
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: it to the end zone himself, burning goal at the

785
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: nine for the snap on our Jackson back to throw.

786
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: Now it's Greg's lowest zone intercepted by Taren Johnson and

787
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: he brings it out and he's still on the run.

788
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: He may go all the way. He's when your team

789
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: does two and fourteen, you can never get hurt. Touchdown.

790
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: Johnson goes a hundred and two yards with an end

791
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: zone interception, touchdown Buffalo John Murphy with a call w

792
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: g R. Yeah, it's the biggest wing playing football. The

793
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: end zone interception that then goes back all the way

794
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: a hundred yards to the house. Tehron Johnson pulled it

795
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: off that fourteen point play for the Bills, the deciding

796
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: play in a seventeen three win over the Ravens and

797
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: raucous Orchard Park. It's just like ten thousand fans there,

798
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: but they really announced their presence with authority in a

799
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: big spot. Lamar Jackson was the man who threw that

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00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: killer pick and then when he was forced out of

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00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: the game on the next series with a head injury,

802
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: that a shotgun snap that went over its head. He

803
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: gets slammed down in the end zone. Tough situation and

804
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: hate sid Uh, that is the latest disappointment of his

805
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: playoff career. Greg Josh Allen has been the face of

806
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: Bill's glory this season, but it's the defense that got

807
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: them to the champion. Yeah, it was that play, that

808
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: play in the injury. I mean, they're the drive leading

809
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: up to it, which you know, there's only two drives

810
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: in the whole third quarter. The Bills get that first

811
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: touchdown of the game to get to ten three and

812
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: Lamar makes a you know, bad read, it's a pick six,

813
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: and that was that was it. It was like, it's

814
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: very I would have liked to see what Lamar Jackson

815
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: could have done down two touchdowns there. You know, definitely

816
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: robbed us um of any chance of that. And this

817
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: was a team that almost lost to the Colts because

818
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: of bad snaps, did lose to the Patriots because of

819
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: bad snaps. And then the guy they brought in for

820
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: the bad snap guy comes in and he was having

821
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: bad snaps all last night. There was you know, three

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00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: or four of them. Uh, it's disappointing. I mean we

823
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: had a weekend where Mahomes and Jackson get concussed. That said,

824
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: like it wasn't happening for the Ravens offense they had

825
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: they had three points there through through three quarters, and

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: they didn't really have um a move to go to

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00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: in terms of their outside running. I was so surprised

828
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: they kept going with these condensed formations running up the

829
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: middle and it it just it wasn't working. I thought

830
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: they would spread them out and try to run. Didn't

831
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: do that. They obviously weren't able to throw the ball.

832
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: Neither were the Bills, frankly. I mean, the Bills had

833
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: two twenty yards, they got out gained by a hundred plus.

834
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: Again in a game like that was by far the

835
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: worst game by the Bills offense all year. I think

836
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: it was, you know, a great performance by the Ravens defense,

837
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: but the Bills defense was better and they didn't their

838
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: quarterback didn't make the killer mistake Lamar did, and that

839
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: was it. I mean, if someone told Wink Martindale, Ravens

840
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, you're going to allow ten points to the

841
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: Bill's offense, right, you'd be thinking this will be a

842
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: crushing um. But the Ravens and it's you know, it

843
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: was a different game than their last playoff loss, but

844
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: the mistakes came from all over the place. And the

845
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: win was a huge factor in Justin Tucker missing two

846
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: field goals UM, but he also just missed them. They

847
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: had a terrible shank to punt UM. J K. Dobbins

848
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: had a terrible drop at one point. There was a

849
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: really costly personal foul. There was Lamar Jackson interception. I

850
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's like they didn't play a

851
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: complete game. And I think Leslie Frasier, the Bills defensive coordinator.

852
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: I mean, these two coordinators both came in with great plans.

853
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: And Leslie Fraser, who I you know, I don't think

854
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: he's gotten mentioned on our show once all year. And

855
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: I get it because you know, he's sort of like

856
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: the head coach. Well, there wasn't much of a story,

857
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: but I mean, but when they needed, when they needed

858
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: that defense to step up and play it's best game

859
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: of the year, UM and really to scheme really well

860
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: against the Ravens and understand what the Ravens do, diagnose

861
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: it and execute. UM. That that's what the Bills defense did.

862
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this was not this was a below middle

863
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: of the road performance by their offense. It was it

864
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: was a costly performance by their offense. Until I think

865
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: that the one little thing and then I'll then I'll

866
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: shut up. The one little thing is that the confidence

867
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen has and Stefan Diggs seems just to

868
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: dig them out of so many holes in time, because

869
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: it was like it took so long to get going,

870
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: but he found him and Diggs started to make huge plays,

871
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: and so it's like it was enough. It was enough

872
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: um on a night where it wouldn't have been at

873
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: the Ravens been less mistake prone. Yeah, I didn't mean

874
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: that in a negative way towards Leslie Fraser. It's just

875
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: that when you've talked about the rise of the Bills,

876
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: it's been about Josh Allen entirely and Brian Dable and

877
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: what they've been able to do, and and Fraser has

878
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: flown under the radar, and like Wink Martindale for instance,

879
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: like you said, you know, if you ask him how

880
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: he feels right now, I shut down the Tennessee Titans

881
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: with their two thousand yard rusher in the forty touchdown quarterback.

882
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: I completely shut down the Josh Allen Bills had been unstoppable.

883
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: I I'm getting introduced to somebody else's head coach next week.

884
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking forward to that. I'm picking out a

885
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: new suit. That's not happening. But that's just the way

886
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: it goes to an interview. Yes on the on the

887
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: raven side and again the dysfunctional offense um, And you're right, Greg,

888
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: we were robbed as fans, and Lamar Jackson was robbed

889
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: of the chance to find a way to dig out

890
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: of that hole and find a way to win that game.

891
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 1: But there's also the chance, based on evidence we've seen

892
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: that they just weren't gonna get it going in that game.

893
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: And part of the reason is because you saw Tyler

894
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: Huntley in the running game get it going a little

895
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: bit at the end, and just the Bill's defense hasn't

896
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: been shut down all year. That that that you're right

897
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: if if if you had just told me then I

898
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: was like, well, he wasn't coming back anyways. But after

899
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: watching them move the ball with Huntly, then you're like, oh,

900
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: it would have been nice. Right. They nearly got this

901
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: game to seventeen ten with Huntley and then all of

902
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: a sudden you put the pressure back on the Bills,

903
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: but they couldn't punch it in. Here's what Hollywood Brown

904
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: said today when talking about the offense. And this I

905
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: think speaks to well for Hollywood talks a lot, so

906
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: you gotta keep that in mind. But also something has

907
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: When players speak out to the media, it speaks to

908
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: something going on in the locker room. Whenever you're the

909
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: number one rushing offense and the thirty something passing team,

910
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: that's not right, that's not balanced. We got to find

911
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: a way to balance our game, even with our great

912
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: rushing attack. We got to be able to throw the

913
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: ball and be able to move the ball through the air.

914
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: And and the truth is, Hallywey Brown is not part

915
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: of the problem, but he's a great number two. I

916
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: feel like they need a number one wide receiver. Though

917
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: usually we give guys credit for playing their best in

918
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and he had two big and not just

919
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and like the whole stretch run when the

920
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Ravens got hot through the playoffs, Brown was great. But

921
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: they do need another receiver. And whether it's on Greg

922
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: Roman or on Lamar Jackson, and really it's on both,

923
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: they need to find a way, uh to to shed

924
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: this image of a team that doesn't know how to

925
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: pivot when things go sideways, because look it happened again now, Greg,

926
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: I know he's your boy, and I know people it

927
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: happens on football. Twitter excuses seem to get made for

928
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson three years in a row. You you're asking

929
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: questions about this offense at the end of their season. Absolutely,

930
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: I think there there might be time for John Harbaugh

931
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: to make a Bowld change. And it's it's tough because

932
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: Roman I think has done a good job. But sometimes

933
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: like you make the change then before it goes really south.

934
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: People a lot smarter than I. You know that. Actually

935
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: we're on NFL teams you know, really talk about like look,

936
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: they brag about how they have five thousand running plays

937
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: and there's a reason why they're so good and diverse.

938
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: It's like that's what they spend their time on. Like

939
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: that takes away the time, especially in a year like

940
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: this where you are not building up your passing game

941
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: to be as diverse and have as many levels to it.

942
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's what they're gonna need ultimately,

943
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: uh eventually, And and it wasn't there. I mean you

944
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: do blanch a little bit at because you see it's like, Okay,

945
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: he threw for seven yards. Pert like they weren't a

946
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: great passing game last night by any means, Jackson, but

947
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: they made about the same amount of lays passing as

948
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Saints and and the Bills and

949
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: like all these other teams. But they are too one dimensional.

950
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown is right. I mean, if you're that easy

951
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: to self scout or to scout, that's a problem. The

952
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: Bills were off the confident coming into this game, and

953
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: they did a great job shutting Lamar on the ground.

954
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: That was really the key for the second straight time.

955
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: They did it a year ago too. It does seem

956
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: like certain teams come in on defense feeling extremely confident

957
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: about stopping Lamar Jackson and this team and this team

958
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: at times, and you know, another offseason in another year,

959
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: is this offense going to grow and going to continue

960
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: to trick people? Change him? Change? Willie Sneed said it

961
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: was a wake up call for Lamar Jackson, and they're

962
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: very close friends, and he was just like, I think

963
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: this game served that for him. So I don't think

964
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: he escapes without critique. Um it's you know, maybe maybe

965
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: just by the nature of their offense, he's given a

966
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: little more bandwidth than others. But after after this latest disappointment,

967
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: it's that I feel like what we're gonna be talking

968
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: about is change the offense. Fix it, make it more explosive,

969
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: get better playmakers, change up the scheme a little bit.

970
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: So Lamar does have that cover. If they do do that,

971
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: and then he continues to struggle on the stage in January,

972
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: there's gonna be no one else to blame but Lamar Jackson.

973
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: Just it was like in this game though, it really

974
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: was that one. It's crazy that it's that one play

975
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: because they had such a similar drop. That's I know,

976
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: but I'm saying some downs to that absolutely, But like

977
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: the Bills get down in the red zone, they run

978
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: it in there quickly, and that the Lamar gets the

979
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: third down and he and he makes he makes a

980
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: bad throw there, makes a bad read and suddenly and

981
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: it happens to be returned and then the game, the

982
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: game is over. He's also knocked out by concussion, which

983
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: we mentioned, but it's like he did he what what if? Well,

984
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: what if he had been in at there at the

985
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: end and change this He just Tucker has got to

986
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: hit those kicks, like you know, there's there's just a

987
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: little there's a little bit of everything that happens in

988
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: these playoff games. That's why we love the playoffs, as

989
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: we end up like dice acting every little thing and

990
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: what is that game like? You know, if they don't

991
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: make some of the mental errors, some of which were

992
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: absolutely on Lamar too. Thanks for bringing it up. Greg,

993
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: Let's head into the Kicker Club. I'm always surprised. I

994
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: have to say legitimately on this club is a mess

995
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: right now. I mentioned people really are interested in the

996
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: Kicker Club and what's happening and who has status and

997
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: who's going in and out? Check it out right now,

998
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: listen to this place. It's the upside down. When Justin

999
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: Tucker puts two off the uprights, people are saying, kick

1000
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker out of the Kicker Hell no, he's my

1001
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: co owner of the place. I mean, that is the

1002
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: greatest kicker ever. But that just speaks to the strange,

1003
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: strange vibe around the Ravens in that game. Eerie eerie

1004
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: stuff in the Kicker Club. Wendy was windy. Do you

1005
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: ever have like the backyard let's sort of courtyards, secret

1006
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: parties at the Kickers Club where the wind is gusting

1007
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: like fifty miles an hour. That's sort of the scenario

1008
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: that Tucker found himself in. I know, I it actually does.

1009
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: It didn't cross my mind after the second Miskick is like,

1010
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: it's Justin Tucker my favorite player in the NFL because

1011
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: I was legitimately hurting definitely, I mean definitely the non

1012
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: Jets and I don't even know, I mean, because they're

1013
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: just being so you know, terrible. I don't. I mean,

1014
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: I love San Donald. I wanted to succeed. Um, but

1015
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: I think Justin Tucker is like in terms of star players,

1016
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: like who do I root for? It's it's a kicker,

1017
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: I think. Anyway, so weird stuff. We should give the

1018
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: Bills fans a little more love and the Bills too.

1019
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: I do feel like we've gotten negative. It was a

1020
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: weird game. It was a great defensive performance. Um Like

1021
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: mc dermott built up this defense from seventeen on and

1022
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: this is what I think his he's made his money

1023
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: doing in Fraser and Brandon Bean and those guys they

1024
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: drafted all came through with huge performances. So that's that

1025
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: is how you win a Super Bowl. Is like when

1026
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: you had different ways, Like the first game, you give

1027
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: up four dred and seventy five yards and you're you're like,

1028
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: you know, all pro type quarterback wins the game by

1029
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: himself for you. The next game, the defense goes and wins.

1030
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: How how are you gonna win the next one? Like

1031
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: that is how you get through four rounds? And Milano

1032
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: and Jerry Hughes who has been there forever, and Edmonds

1033
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: and Trey White had a good game in the safeties,

1034
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: like they they stepped up and won the game. And

1035
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: so that's a credit. I know Bills fans, they don't

1036
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: that's how they I don't care how they're gonna win

1037
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: the game. They are loving this game. I will say

1038
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: that is glass half full. The glass half empty look

1039
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: is that they've won two playoff games. Uh, and you

1040
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, either game could have gone the other way

1041
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: because they combined in the two games. So are they

1042
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: vulnerable to be picked off on Sunday this upcoming Sunday

1043
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: by the Chiefs because they're not playing at that same

1044
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: level anymore they were at the end of the regular

1045
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: season or is it just a matter of And I'm

1046
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: probably more on this side of things. The competition shoots

1047
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: through the roof in January and you're the big dog

1048
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: that everybody's gunning for is the home playoff team, and

1049
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: those are hard games to win, and they've found a

1050
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: way to beat two very good teams in the Colts

1051
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: and Ravens. There is a little part of me and

1052
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs fans are some of the best in the

1053
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: in the world, but I would have loved to see

1054
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: an a f C title game in Buffalo. Um. The

1055
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: the the amount of noise they made when those kicks

1056
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: went sideways by Justin Tucker. I don't know, it's because

1057
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're used to know fans and suddenly you

1058
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: have ten thousand. But everyone there was like it sounds

1059
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: like seven earthquakes are occurring here. And that's the Bills

1060
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: fandom and they'll get talked about a lot this week

1061
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: as they should. All Right, there you go, So the

1062
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: Bill's Brown's a f C title game would have been nice, Mark,

1063
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: I know I am ultimately saying that more as like

1064
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: the Bills crowd, I'm not understand in the back door

1065
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: with that. It really would have been nice, though. It

1066
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: would have been if there was a scenario where the

1067
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: either the Browns fans or the Bills fans were getting

1068
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: ready for a Super Bowl, but also looking at this way, Mark,

1069
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: how about this tough loss, but such a sad, strange year,

1070
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: uh in in in this country, in this world, when

1071
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: the Browns get over the hump, you want to have

1072
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: that true vibe or the stadiums packed all season and

1073
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: maybe you have a home game in the n f

1074
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: C title game and you and you see like Baker

1075
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: and you know Jarvis and maybe even O'Dell and Miles

1076
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: going around the concourse slap in five and it's a

1077
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: it's it's not this strange, speaking upside down world we

1078
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: live in. But it has been nice, I'd say, to

1079
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: get some fans in these stadiums. Hopefully it's in a

1080
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: safe way, and these aren't people getting sick from going

1081
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: in these games. But to get the ten fifteen thousand

1082
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: people in there has made a difference in the postseason.

1083
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: I am with you, and I would imagine that's actually

1084
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: what Cleveland's plan was. Let's slow play this and get

1085
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: back there next year when the fans are in the stadium. Yes,

1086
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: all right. Our final game was the first game played

1087
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: early Saturday. Rogers take Spakes, the hand off looks a

1088
00:54:51,480 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff, Parkers. Why man, that's Wayne Larvey

1089
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: w T MJ. The Packers offense is just you know impossible.

1090
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams combined to go over a

1091
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: hundred sixty yards with a touchdown. Aaron Rodgers was his masket,

1092
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: will self you have three touchdowns and the Packers kind

1093
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: of cruise to a eighteen win over the Rams at Lambeau.

1094
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: Green Bay punches at stake into the NFC Title Game

1095
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: for the second straight year, where they will host the

1096
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: Bucks next Sunday. Yes, Aaron Rodgers against Tom Brady. How

1097
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: do you like that? For the right to go to

1098
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Mark the Green Bay offense, which rolled

1099
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: up nearly five hundred yards against the stout Rams defense.

1100
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: It can be a beautiful thing to watch. I I

1101
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: enjoyed this game a lot more than I thought it

1102
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: would because of that exact um factor that there's something

1103
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: about the Packers when they are clicking the way that

1104
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: they are an athlete that West just spoke perfectly about

1105
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in his season that you could count his

1106
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, gaffs on on on one or two hands. Um.

1107
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: You knew early on that this was gonna take something

1108
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: dynamic from the Rams on offense to keep up and

1109
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: nothing about the Rams offense suggested that was the case.

1110
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: And you throw in the fact that Aaron Donald just

1111
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: um you know, limited snaps, uh, you know, in a

1112
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: lot of pain, was not himself ended the game shedding

1113
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: some tears. There's the play where Davante Adams, um just

1114
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: got the best of Jail and Ramsey. The Rams this year,

1115
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: at this time are built around that. They're built around that,

1116
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: and they're built around Brandon Staley cooking up defenses, um

1117
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: defensive schemes. And Brandon Staley is now going to this

1118
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles Chargers. So a lot's changing as

1119
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: we speak with that team. But um, you know, I

1120
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: I like, can't you know, cam Akers amazing effort lost

1121
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: in that is just that there are too many you know,

1122
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: too much pressure on golf and got thrown to the

1123
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: turf so many times and it just uh, at no point,

1124
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: after about a quarter ended, I thought this, this thought

1125
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: this game was had a question. It was just so

1126
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: Green Bay is too powerful, right that the Rams kind

1127
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: of like the Browns at least before Mahomes you know left,

1128
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, felt like they were the inferior team and

1129
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: actually showed, you know, some of the reason they're in

1130
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: this spot and they're fighting spirit to to even be competitive,

1131
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: because I think if you play that game ten times

1132
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald not at a percent and no Cooper Cup,

1133
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of the Rams are that competitive.

1134
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I just just wasn't gonna happen. I was

1135
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: still surprised to see how easily they went through the

1136
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: Rams defense, how consistently they did. This is the defense

1137
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: that didn't give up more than four hundred yards one

1138
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: time all season. They gave up fo eighty five and

1139
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: it was only in like eight or nine drives. This

1140
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: was another game that that was kind of shortened the game,

1141
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: like golf did everything it could and it didn't matter.

1142
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: I think why West, you know one of the reasons

1143
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: he loves riders so much this year. It's such a

1144
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: combination of you know, his athleticism and everything we've always

1145
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: loved about him, and his and his you know, mental

1146
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: side of things. It's it's kind of even the easy

1147
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: guys are guys are either open or he's just making

1148
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: decisions Like I just you've never seen guys this open

1149
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers and he said it in the post game,

1150
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: like they missed a couple. Even though they only had

1151
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: eight or nine drives, they really could have had two

1152
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: more touchdowns in this game, one of which turned into

1153
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: a field like they could have put up forty on

1154
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: the number one defense in the league. And I know

1155
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: it didn't play out this way all all weekend, but

1156
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: I'll take great offense over great defense any day. I

1157
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: thought about that you're saying that, you know, throughout the months,

1158
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: and it just came to mind, and golf played pretty

1159
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: well in this game. I mean, statistically, it's kind of

1160
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: a bummer when you look at this weekend what came

1161
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: out of it. When you had Patrick Mahomes going out

1162
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: of the a game we were all pumped to watch

1163
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: with the concussion. Lamar Jackson essentially takes the air, the

1164
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: air is taken out of the balloon with his cushion

1165
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: when that game was seventeen three, and you know, Cooper

1166
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: Cup's one thing that's a big loster their offense. But

1167
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: you take Aaron donald Um and put him in such

1168
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: a compromised state. Uh in that game, He's coming in

1169
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: and out of the game, obviously struggling with the rib injury,

1170
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: crying after the game as the clock ticks down to

1171
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: zero is because I think, you know, I don't want

1172
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: to play psychologists here, but you get the vibe that,

1173
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: like he knew to get this team past the Packers

1174
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: into the super Bowl, they needed him to deliver the

1175
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: type of performance that's that he's been doing his whole career.

1176
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna put him in the Hall of Fame. And

1177
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: he physically could not do it. And that had to

1178
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: be so deeply frustrating on top of just the feelings

1179
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: of knowing that your season is now over. And the

1180
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: other thing to take away from the game, and and

1181
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: some comments that have come out of Los Angeles since

1182
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: the loss um make me think about it even more,

1183
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: is so, yeah, los Angeles defense, which was great all year,

1184
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: didn't have what it took to hang with Aaron Rodgers

1185
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: in this game. Without Aaron Donald Um. Okay, now in

1186
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: the past, with a Sean McVeigh offense, all is not

1187
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: lost because it's okay, okay, so the defense isn't gonna

1188
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: carry us. We're gonna score points and we're gonna get

1189
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: in a shoot out. But at no point did you

1190
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: feel like the Rams had that ability in them? And

1191
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: I would guess, and you get the vibe. Sean mcveay

1192
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: sick of that. Like he's like, I'm Sean McVeigh. I

1193
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: should be able to get into a shoot out if

1194
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: need be. And here are some comments McVeigh made right

1195
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: after the game. When I asked about Jared goff and

1196
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: the future, he said, yes, Jared Goffler quarterback right now.

1197
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: And then uh, he was had a Zoom conference the

1198
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: day after the game and talked about the future again

1199
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Everything's being evaluated. I'm not ready to make

1200
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: any sort of statements with regards to anybody, you know,

1201
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: starting position or not. We're gonna have a level of

1202
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: competition at everything that we do. And then he was asked,

1203
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: would God be on the roster. We're we're in a

1204
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: situation that we're in evaluation mode. Um, you know, all

1205
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: the those things are things that you know, we're we're

1206
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: moving forward, we're looking forward, and and I can't you know,

1207
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: answer any of those questions until, like I said, I

1208
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: take a step back and and you evaluate everything that

1209
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: is in the best interest of the Ramps. Here's the

1210
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: translation to me, Greg, and tell me if I'm wrong,

1211
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: because I know you're very good at translating. Coach speaking,

1212
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm sick of this. I am sick of this, and

1213
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: I want to be able to run an offense that

1214
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: can keep pace with the way the league is going

1215
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: right now, and having Jared Goff behind center isn't going

1216
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, translation is like, we're gonna try,

1217
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to replace Goff. I don't know that

1218
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: we can. I don't know how it's gonna look exactly.

1219
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Sean McVeigh is very intentional and everything he

1220
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: does and everything he says, he's probably sick of scene.

1221
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: You know. On the other side, like you know his

1222
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: guy that he probably thinks he's a better coach than

1223
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: scheming up open receivers for a Hall of Fame Aaron

1224
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: Rodgers quarterback. The contract is is tricky. But anyone in

1225
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: Goff's corner, and there are a few in the media,

1226
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: Um there's thinking if there are pleased on me who

1227
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: they are because I have not seen any of them

1228
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: this season. Um you know there there are the reporter

1229
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: Melanie Goff. I'm not even gonna go there. My point

1230
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: is that they made it out like the people were

1231
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: making a bigger deal out of this whole, like golf

1232
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: and Wolford and everything else. Thing than then was warranted

1233
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: because of Goff's injury, and I think mcveigh's comments show

1234
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: that it was totally warranted and that will be a

1235
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: huge part of their offseason. Yeah, tough, tough way to

1236
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: go into it. Losing Staley to the Chargers. Is Mark

1237
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: mentioned he is the new head coach, kind of kind

1238
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: of interesting to steal the guy in the building. There's

1239
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a sneaky big brother little brother

1240
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: rivalry there, I I think behind the scenes, and I

1241
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: mean he doesn't have to like move homes, his kids

1242
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: can stay in the same schools. I do wonder a

1243
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: little about these playoff games because you know, we are

1244
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: all the whole world is watching one game and the

1245
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: result is so paramount. Like if a game like this

1246
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: happens in week eleven, does everyone come out of it

1247
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: thinking like, we're gonna reboot our offense. We're gonna we're Baltimore,

1248
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: We're changing our offense, We're Seattle, We're gonna run a

1249
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: ton more, We're gonna dump this quarterback in that quarterback.

1250
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's also just the end of

1251
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: the season, but like, I feel like that's so under

1252
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: the microscope that it creates um larger, a larger than

1253
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: life sort of decision making process for some of these coaches. Well,

1254
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: with Gothic Kate was coming for about six weeks that

1255
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: was the thing, or six or eight weeks. So that's

1256
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: that's with him in McVeigh. At least, we're gonna dig

1257
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: in deep on the Brandon Staley higher by the Chargers

1258
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: and of course Roberts Sala Sala going to the Jets

1259
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: and Arthur Smith going to the Falcons. We'll dig into

1260
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: that our next show on Tuesday and anything else that

1261
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: happens um around the NFL as we do. Just the

1262
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: heads up, but yeah, that that's the Rams are an

1263
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: interesting place. Next they gotta replace that. It's funny with

1264
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: I just said I'm gonna we're gonna talk about it Tuesday,

1265
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: but I have to say it because it Brandon Staley.

1266
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: It almost now is an advantage to not have experience.

1267
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: It's like just put one good year on tape and

1268
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: then they're going to get behind you. It's the Sean

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01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: McVeigh model, like we're willing to gamble that you are

1270
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: the future of the league rather than you have to

1271
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: show it multiple years It's kind of funny the way thinks,

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01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: Like if you're Wink Martindale and Leslie Fraser, you're thinking,

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01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: wait a minute, they just hired that guy. He's been

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01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: doing this for five months. He just they just hired

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: the guy whose defense gave up. And this is kind

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01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: of one of these silly stats, but for the first

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01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: time in playoff history, a team had four hundred and

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01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: seventy five yards um total, hundred seventy five yards rushing,

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01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: zero sacks, zero turnovers. So like about as efficient an

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01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: offense that has ever existed in the postseason is what

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01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: the Packers just did to the Rams. That's like when

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia got the Lion's job after the Eagles Super

1283
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: Bowl win. That's what I kind of felt about Arthur Smith.

1284
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: And it feels a little unfair, But when I rewatched

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01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: that game, and man, the Ravens had their number. We

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01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: should give Packers fans a little little cheese to Nivlon.

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01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: By the way, they had a lot of nice things

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01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: they could have won this and by like forty they

1289
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: like Rashaan Gary and Kenny Clark stepping up big, Aaron

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: Jones had a nice game and then just like Rogers

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: how like calm he was when he's just like yells

1292
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: to Alan Lazard on that touchdown, just like hey, Alan,

1293
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: and then throws him like a sixth yards that he's

1294
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: just like chilling in the end zone before he throws

1295
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: like a thirty yard you know thing. And while most

1296
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks would be freaking out taking his safety is pretty awesome.

1297
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: He's so Yeah, he's so unique. I don't think we'll

1298
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: ever have another quarterback or player in the NFL like

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01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: Rogers to have his abilities. But also he's such an

1300
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: interesting personality. And you're watching him in these interviews and

1301
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: are you're watching on the field. They had did a

1302
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: nice job catching him just grinning under center. He's just

1303
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: completely It actually gets me a little bit mad that

1304
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: someone could be that physically talented and that's smart. The

1305
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be hosting Jeopardy uh down the road and

1306
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: in the near future. Uh. He's just such a unique character. Um.

1307
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: And for him to be playing at this level and

1308
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: this Packers team, which is actually now going to go

1309
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: into this game as a favorite, Like I said earlier,

1310
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: I assume, um they should get back to the super Bowl,

1311
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: and if they do, it's rogers first trip back in

1312
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: ten years, so he's overdoing it. Might be his best

1313
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: chance to get back to the super Bowl. It is

1314
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: this first one, first one at home, right, certainly the

1315
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: first one home since then. I'm trying to think, all right,

1316
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: any other thoughts about this game. I'm looking to update

1317
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: you on the situation for next week in terms of

1318
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: they are four point favorites. By the way, nothing nothing crazy,

1319
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: but that's about right. Yeah, yeah, that's about right. Maybe

1320
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: four and a half a little more. I love their

1321
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: chances against Tampa Bay. I'd lay a little more Oak there. Personally,

1322
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: I think I'm the touch, you know, as I realized

1323
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 1: watching the Browns, and I just want to pick the

1324
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: games of what I want to happen. I don't like

1325
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: Rudy against what I want because I did want the

1326
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: Browns to win, and but you had the whole lock situation.

1327
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't like these conflicting things. So I think I

1328
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be wanting Tom Brady to win another game,

1329
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: and so I'll probably just pick them to win. There's

1330
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: a there's a tea for you and uh Mark, just

1331
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: like you did. We we did um a lot of

1332
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: work with sky Sports overseas. UM this weekend and last

1333
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: weekend as well. It's been a lot of fun with

1334
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 1: Neil Reynolds and Jeff Rhin Bold, Sean Gail and Brian Waldinger.

1335
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: That's it's been a lot of fun. Leslie Fraser's teammate

1336
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: on The Five Bears, Sean Gayle, how about that? That's true? Uh,

1337
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Crowley, the producer over there, Alex Mason, It's it's

1338
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: been a great relationship we've had with that whole gang there.

1339
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: And and the fact that you mark right after the

1340
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: Browns game, seconds after you went on Sky Sports Live

1341
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: comported yourself professionally and did the same thing here today.

1342
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: I just I tipped my cap to you, sir, well,

1343
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: thank you. I mean part of me is like we

1344
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: I would do show is when they captain know in

1345
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: sixteen seasons. So um, I'm not saying this is it's

1346
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's different levels of annoyance. But uh I,

1347
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: I've actually really enjoyed these past two weeks doing the

1348
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: guy with you guys and having having the chance to

1349
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: have wess on. Um, the Browns are just part of it.

1350
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of other parts and um, it's like

1351
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: another thing and I think we all hear from our

1352
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: listeners in so many different ways. I have never experienced

1353
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: anything like all the people reaching out with UM, you

1354
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: know what, wishing you well over a game or now

1355
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: there's a couple of a holes in there. But I

1356
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,919
Speaker 1: think they're actually not from our They're not from our podcast.

1357
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: You're pushing Drew Carey pushing them. I don't know if

1358
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: I would really want that as an identity, because I

1359
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: think like the same thing that's also happening is like

1360
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: all the big wigs and they coming like, oh, yeah,

1361
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: he's that Browns fan guy. I don't put it. He's

1362
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to talk about anything else. It's like, yeah,

1363
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 1: I might kind of, you know. It's just like Nick Shooks,

1364
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: like I'm super logical guy, like that might be the

1365
01:08:53,840 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: way to go here, and boy, it's a hideous I entity.

1366
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: So it's you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna use the

1367
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: next couple of months to get away from that. The

1368
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: fans love you, Mark UM, we love you, and the

1369
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: UM listeners, including one named Jimmy from Toronto. He he

1370
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: got ahead of it a little bit, just in the

1371
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: in the off chance that things didn't go well for UM.

1372
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: The Browns. We've been playing the Cleveland Browns um Fight

1373
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: song from when they re entered the league, so figured

1374
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: a good way to close out today's show is to

1375
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: listen to Jimmy from Toronto's version cover version of that

1376
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: very song. What's the song called again? Well, here we

1377
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: go again, Here we go again. This is actually true

1378
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: as of tomorrow, but yeah, this is a stripped down

1379
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: version to reflect the events of today. And before we

1380
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: play that. Yes, thank you to Chris Westling for joining us.

1381
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: Uh ricky Hollywood behind the virtual glass. We'll be back

1382
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: Tuesday with another show in a full, big show, a

1383
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,879
Speaker 1: lot to talk about everything in the news, including slas

1384
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: La Salah, so make sure you come back for that

1385
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: and Cleveland Browns Rising rising, taking that next step this

1386
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: time next year we see it. But for now, the

1387
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: season comes to an end. We'll see you on Tuesday.

1388
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: So here wait again, It's brown It's first, So get

1389
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: on your feet, let the games again. Here go again,

1390
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: m kill Tuesday, all right,