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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Phillies Show with Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury.

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Speaker 1: I'm Todd's Lucky. It is Friday, May thirty first, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four, Phillies coming off an off day and a

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Speaker 1: two and four road trip through Colorado and San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Kind of the first bit of adversity the Phillies have

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Speaker 1: faced really since maybe the first week of the season.

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Speaker 1: So naturally some concern amongst Phillies fans about what they

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Speaker 1: saw on this road trip. Some of their blemishes maybe

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Speaker 1: bubbled up a little bit more than they have over

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Speaker 1: the first several weeks or certainly the last several weeks

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Speaker 1: of the season. And I'm not too worried about it. Ruben,

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Speaker 1: you were out there, what was the vibe, give me

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Speaker 1: the give me the vibe of the this road trip

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Speaker 1: and the flight home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that, Well, the flight home was great,

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Speaker 2: but leading up to that, I mean, obviously there's a

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Speaker 2: team that you know, a couple of teams that they

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Speaker 2: just don't play well, either in course field or in

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Speaker 2: Oracle Park. I mean, it's just I don't know what

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Speaker 2: it is, they just over the years they just do

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Speaker 2: not play well there. I think the atmosphere and not

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Speaker 2: as much of the atmosphere. I think the fact that

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Speaker 2: they you know, you're in that high altitude. I think

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Speaker 2: that's a little bit of difference. I think that you

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Speaker 2: see that some of the pictures have to make certain

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Speaker 2: adjustments there that it takes a little time. You saw

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Speaker 2: that happen a couple of times with guys on the mound,

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Speaker 2: and I think that they just it's one of those

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Speaker 2: places that it's so wonderful to hit there that I

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Speaker 2: think you that guys get out of their plan. One

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Speaker 2: of the things that that the a Phillies have done

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Speaker 2: really really well over the last you know, a month

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Speaker 2: and a half or so is situationally hit They've stayed

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. I just saw some

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Speaker 2: bigger swings. I saw some you know, some some approaches

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Speaker 2: that were not nearly as consistent as they have been

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Speaker 2: and just kind of letting things happen. It almost seems like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm I'm in here, of course field,

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Speaker 2: I gotta do some raking. You know, this is a

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Speaker 2: time to do some you know, you know, mix some

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Speaker 2: Hay with home runs and things like that, and I

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Speaker 2: just think that they got a little bit out of

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Speaker 2: their plan. I think that that was part of it

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Speaker 2: on the offensive side, because they faced a couple of

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Speaker 2: guys with like enormous cras, guys who are just not great.

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Speaker 2: The pitchings is not great, and in San Francisco it

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Speaker 2: was just a matter of running into a team. I

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Speaker 2: think that's pretty hot right now. They're playing pretty good baseball.

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Speaker 2: They're I mean San Francisco came in and won like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, three or four crazy games late in

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Speaker 2: games and like historically won like four, like three or

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Speaker 2: four games down more than three runs or three runs

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Speaker 2: or whatever. And they just playing hot baseball. The fact

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Speaker 2: that they salvaged that one game that was huge. He

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Speaker 2: got a great start from Christopher Sanchez Man and he's

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Speaker 2: been really good. I mean he's been pitching like a

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Speaker 2: like a three, really really solid. I'm really impressed with

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Speaker 2: his old transformation, and I mean we could sit here

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Speaker 2: just making an adjustment to being a pitcher. The fact

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Speaker 2: that he's now got his velocity back up to where

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Speaker 2: pretty extraordinary. He's also throwing a little slider and even

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Speaker 2: featured the cutter, which he had abandoned because he couldn't

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Speaker 2: The fact that he's now utiling that pitch, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that that that's huge. And he came and came. He

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Speaker 2: that salvaging that last game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he he provided really good bookend starts to start

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Speaker 3: the trip and to end the trip. And I agree

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Speaker 3: game in San Francisco just changed the entire sort of

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Speaker 3: psychological complexion of the of the road trip for me.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think you know, they left for

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Speaker 3: the road trip with the best record in baseball. They

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Speaker 3: the best record in baseball.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good. I mean we talk.

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Speaker 3: About, you know, the the peak level they had been

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Speaker 3: can't be a good team, but you're gonna have ebbs

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Speaker 4: Coming home.

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Speaker 3: I just think hitting comes and goes, and you know

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Speaker 3: when it goes, when you go cold a little bit,

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Speaker 3: the good hitters get out of it quickly. So you know,

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Speaker 3: Scott had been having a awesome month, Bom had been

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Speaker 3: having an awesome season. Harper had been having an awesome month.

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Speaker 3: All three of those guys hit under two hundred on

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Speaker 3: probably one of the reasons. You know, they scored two

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Speaker 3: or fewer runs and half of the games out there,

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Speaker 3: so the offense just wasn't there on the trip. But hey,

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Speaker 3: that happens. Thursday's off day to me, comes at a

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Speaker 3: great time. You gotta win before it. On Wednesday, you

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Speaker 3: get the off day to kind of have a cleansing breath,

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Speaker 3: come back in front of a big crowd on Friday

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Speaker 3: night and get it going again.

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Speaker 4: So I love where where they're at.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no reason to freak out over a six

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Speaker 1: game West Coast road trip. I mean, if you freaked

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Speaker 1: out over every six game West gross road trip that

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Speaker 1: then go the Phillies way, you'd you'd be losing your mind. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: over the years, I mean, it's something always crazy happens

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Speaker 1: really good teams. I mean, Nick, you mention, Jimmy, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the offense. Nick Castianos had a big game in

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Speaker 1: that series finale, hit the home run. I think he

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Speaker 1: double single first three at bats. He was a triple

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Speaker 1: away from this cycle, and we keep going, is this

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Speaker 1: the game that gets Nick turned around? Is finally starting

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Speaker 1: to show something? And you look at his last eight

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Speaker 1: he's he's hitting the ball a little bit better the

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Speaker 1: last eight games, like an ops over eight hundred. You know,

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Speaker 1: they need some more production from that outfield. That's that's

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Speaker 1: something that's really kind of popped up, I feel like,

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Speaker 1: Is it a big issue? Is this something that has

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Speaker 1: you guys concerned? I feel like I feel like right now,

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Speaker 1: the way the team is playing, it's not you know,

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Speaker 1: Siren's going off, But it could be towards the end

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it's I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: an issue, but certainly when Marsh obviously Marsh is not

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Speaker 2: and so Rob Thompson's wanting to get you know, Pasche

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Speaker 2: for him clearly and still adjusting to that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Passe actually had a pretty decent game that last game

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Speaker 2: out of Castillanos, which is more of a concern because

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Speaker 2: the guy just can't hit two hundred and everybody think

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Speaker 2: I mean, that shouldn't happen. I think he's a much

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Speaker 2: better hitter than this. I mean, Jimmy and I have

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Speaker 2: talked about this, probably at nauseum. At some point, you

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Speaker 2: think he's gonna start breaking out. I don't. I think

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Speaker 2: he's hitting the ball a little bit harder. He actually

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Speaker 2: him about it. I think that there's more There's obviously

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Speaker 2: his way into being that productive player. But when you

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Speaker 2: got Castianos on the other corner not really producing like

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Speaker 2: I think if you get into the middle of June

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Speaker 2: and you're both you're getting that kind of production scene

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna get a whole lot of production center field.

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Speaker 2: That's just not gonna happen. But if you're not getting

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Speaker 2: I might have to go get an outfielder who's at

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Speaker 2: the trade headline maybe who's going to be a little

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Speaker 2: because they don't have Turner in that lineup, and so

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Speaker 2: you have you're missing that production. At some point, he's

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Speaker 2: little bit. But that's my take on the outfield thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I don't get all too tied up in

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Speaker 2: like what positions on the field are producing. I've seen

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't really matter. You'd like to have more

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Speaker 2: production throughout the lineup because that's what makes it so

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Speaker 2: he's getting you know, consistent.

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Speaker 3: At bats, I do think it's it's you say, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter where you get the production from. But you

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Speaker 3: look at this team, they've gotten a ton of production

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Speaker 3: bit on this trip the outfield, the outfields flaws and

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Speaker 3: production really showed up because they didn't score runs.

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Speaker 4: And you know.

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Speaker 3: You look at their overall three spots outfield production and

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Speaker 3: in a lot of important offensive categories, they're in the

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Speaker 3: bottom third in Major League basement. I mean, some of

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Speaker 3: these solutions might come from within if marsh gets going,

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Speaker 3: if Meryfield when he plays gets going, and of course

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Speaker 3: when Castianos plays every day, if he can start to

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Speaker 3: turn it around. But we have crossed over the one

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Speaker 3: third mark of the season, and you know, traditionally, I

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Speaker 3: mean you know this Ruben Todd covering baseball, that first

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering.

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Speaker 3: Now that we've crossed the one third line. Big, like

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Speaker 3: I said, evaluation time, getting a handle.

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Speaker 4: On what you have.

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Speaker 3: As the trade deadline comes into a little more focus here, Todd,

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Speaker 3: If they're committed to Castianos, that would put maybe Rojas

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Speaker 1: Todd, Yeah, I mean he could if they decide that

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Speaker 3: should have should have high standards that if you're not

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Speaker 3: getting the job done, need to make a change, have

433
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Speaker 3: somebody else. Turnbull is an excellent option. Uh he pitches

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Speaker 3: this weekend, right, He'll pitch on Sunday.

435
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Speaker 2: Sunday.

436
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Speaker 4: You know, I think it's a big start.

437
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of eyeballs will be on him.

438
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Speaker 3: For me, I'm not at the end of my leash yet.

439
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: But start to tug a little bit, you know, starting

440
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: to tug a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And I don't disagree with you. Here's the issue from

442
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Speaker 2: a GM's perspective, Okay, I know at least I get

443
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: the feeling now having seen Turnbull pitch out of the bullpen,

444
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Speaker 2: that he can be effective enough to be that guy

445
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: in the bullpen and you need bullpen help. I mean

446
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: that's part of this whole process too. Now, if you

447
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 2: have a much better rotation the bullpen, piece of that,

448
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: well that becomes diminished. That said, I know that Turnbull

449
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: as a GM. If I'm a GM, that he can

450
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: pitch out of the bullpen, I don't think. And my

451
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: feeling is that if you flip flop these guys, what

452
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 2: are you really going to do with Walker? Is he

453
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: going to be able to pitch out of the bullpen.

454
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Speaker 2: They didn't trust him to pitch out of the bullpen

455
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, obviously, and that was an issue. That's

456
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Speaker 2: the concern I have. That's why I think the leash

457
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: is going to continue to be a little bit longer

458
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: and they're gonna have to play it out and see, Okay,

459
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: can this guy get this split together. The split is

460
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: huge for him because if he can't get it, he's

461
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: not going to be nearly as an effective pitcher. The

462
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: cutter he's throwing is better. He's throwing some more breaking

463
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: balls and they're a little bit better, but that's not

464
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Speaker 2: his bread and butter. His bed and butter is his

465
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: split and right now his arm side life. They talked

466
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Speaker 2: to Coughin was Tom McCarthy talked to Coughin a little

467
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: bit about this. He hasn't been able to get that

468
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: armside action on his split. So if he can't get

469
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: the feel for that pitch and get it working down,

470
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: then that could be really troublesome for him and they

471
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Speaker 2: may very well have to think about making a switch.

472
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Speaker 2: But when you do that, then you lose another guy

473
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Speaker 2: in the bullpen. In turnbull and who do your place

474
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: that guy with. So there's a lot of dynamics other

475
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: than just you know, taking the guy out of the

476
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: rotation that you know, there's a domino effect that you

477
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: have to think about long term as well.

478
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Speaker 3: How big of a dynamic room and for a GM

479
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: or front office is to contract.

480
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: It's a dynamic, It's part of it. But again, at

481
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Speaker 2: the end of the day, if they don't think that

482
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: he can be an effective picture, I mean, it's about

483
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: wins Man. I mean, it's about wins I mean there

484
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: were some difficult decisions that we had to make over

485
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Speaker 2: the years. I mean Jenkins, we ended up, you know,

486
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Speaker 2: releasing the eight six or seven or eight million dollars

487
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Speaker 2: on him. We just you know released.

488
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Speaker 1: You did the same thing with add a meat in

489
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Speaker 1: that spring you cut out a meating as well.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so you have to you have to

491
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Speaker 2: think about doing things that are not comfortable. But if

492
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Speaker 2: you want to be an elite team, sometimes you got

493
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Speaker 2: to make those decisions and eat some money. I don't know,

494
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're at that space now because.

495
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Speaker 3: I'm more or less talking about how big of a

496
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: in terms of sticking with him in the rotation I'm

497
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Speaker 3: not talking about cutting.

498
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Speaker 2: I think I think it's a I think it's a factor,

499
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: but I think the depth is more of a factor

500
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: than than the than the money, because Hey, all of

501
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: a sudden, something happens, God forbid to Aaron Nola, and

502
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: you took that other guy out of the rotation. Now

503
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: you're now you're oh, now what do we do? I mean,

504
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: who's the next guy in lion and.

505
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Speaker 1: They're starting pitching?

506
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Speaker 2: Depth is not that The depth is the thing that

507
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: really concerns me, and they they have enough of a

508
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: cushion right now that while you're tugging on that leash

509
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 2: because it's getting shorter and shorter, it's going to be

510
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: longer for this guy because they still have the best

511
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 2: record of baseball and they're going to make the playoffs, you.

512
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Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

513
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: So it makes it a little different. A dynamic may

514
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: not be right, it may not be the perfect thing,

515
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: but it also creates you know, if you take him

516
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: out of the rotation and shorten him up and then

517
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: he's not prepared to I mean, then you're really crushing

518
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: your depth, and that's the last thing you want to

519
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: do at this stage, especially when you have this sort

520
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: of cushion.

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Speaker 1: We got a bunch of listener questions. I asked for

522
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: some last night, and I want to get to this.

523
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: This is one that I could not find it this morning,

524
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: So I apologize to the person who sent it out.

525
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Who is the funniest player? Manager? Coach Rubin, I guess

526
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: you worked with Jim that you covered. Who's the funniest?

527
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: A lot of funny.

528
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of funny guys.

529
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Speaker 2: I played on a team in Buffalo, guys that I

530
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: will tell you it was a triple A team. It

531
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Speaker 2: probably could have been. We could have won some Major

532
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: League against some major league teams that year in nineteen

533
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Speaker 2: ninety five. I will tell you that Billy Ripkin and

534
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: Casey Candell, combination of those two players, maybe I literally

535
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: belly laughed for the entire time I was there. Jeremy

536
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: Burnitt's was part of that team. You think about this,

537
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: so it's and Brian Giles. So I Brian Giles, myself

538
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: and Jeremy Burnitt's in the same outfield. I mean, obviously

539
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: I was the weakest link of that, but I was

540
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: a pretty good minor league player, so we had some

541
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Speaker 2: a lot of success. Then it was like Billy Ripkin

542
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: and Casey Candell. Tory Labella was on that team. I

543
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 2: mean it was I will tell you that unequivocally that

544
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: Billy Ripkin and Casey Candell were two of the funniest dudes.

545
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: I laughed every single day at stretch. It was just amazing,

546
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Speaker 2: funny as hell.

547
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Speaker 1: When I read that question, something that popped into my mind.

548
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: And again, like so many guys that were just funny

549
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: in general, but the first thing that popped in my

550
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: head was chooch. In spring training and sometimes during the season,

551
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: so every every morning, Frank Copenbarger, the former Phillies clubhouse guy,

552
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: would kind of in his gravelly voice, go right your

553
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: tickets down, because eventually, you know, I guess ultimately some

554
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: player would forget that his family was going to come

555
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: to the game and he'd grab Frank twenty minutes before

556
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: first pitch, go my wife and kids are coming to guys.

557
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: So he would come through multiple times during the day,

558
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: go right your tickets down, and so then Choos every

559
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: once in a while would just randomly come through in

560
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Speaker 1: his Panamanian accident, and.

561
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Speaker 6: People always laughed and go raight your tickets down. It

562
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 6: was just a funny a funny little thing that Cheoch

563
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 6: would do all the time.

564
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Speaker 1: He was probably I wrote a story about this years ago.

565
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: Who's the most beloved player in that clubhouse? And this

566
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: was during the eight eleven run, and Chooch one hands down,

567
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: And it was because he was such a great person.

568
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: But he was also sneakily very funny. And I say

569
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Speaker 1: sneakily because you know, he didn't rap too much with

570
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: the media on camera, so a lot of fans at

571
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Speaker 1: home didn't get to see it. But he was very,

572
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: very funny behind the scenes. He would goof on Shane

573
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Speaker 1: Victorino all the time.

574
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Speaker 4: That was great.

575
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Speaker 6: He imitated victor Yeah, like like I said, like I said,

576
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Speaker 6: because Shane would say like I said a lot.

577
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: And Sochuch would say like I said, like I said.

578
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: So Chooch to me popped in my head. But there's

579
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: so many other guys. Ryan Howard's very funny. Chase and

580
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Worth has a very dry sense here, Chase slightly what

581
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: we had on the other day, super super dry sense

582
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: of humor, and he when he showed it, you're like,

583
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, face cracking of funny. Before Jim was

584
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: very fun Jay Roll was funny. Jay roll was very

585
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: funny as well.

586
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: He got jim Oh too many to name.

587
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Rex Huddler was hilarious. When I covered the Yankees,

588
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: I covered David Cohene. He was smart, he was insightful.

589
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: He could be wickedly funny. You know, I don't know

590
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: if I can tell all the stories, but a lot

591
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: of too many to name, but Jimmy Rollins made me

592
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: laugh often with some of the things he said.

593
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, you know, just.

594
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: I would make you laugh every once in a while, Yeah,

595
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: make you laugh.

596
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy would always goof on me for questions. I would

597
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: ask if he didn't like the question, to go, you

598
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: can't look at me, give me a little side eye there, go,

599
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: come on.

600
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: Brett Myers was Brett Myers was was funny. Yeah, I'm

601
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: trying to think of other guys. Just almost every day

602
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 3: somebody would say something. I think it's important, you know,

603
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: during the season to have those guys to kind of

604
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: break the tension a little bit, and you know, you

605
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: don't hear them going back and forth with each other,

606
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: and it'll make Ryan Madson had a killer sense of humor.

607
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: He did.

608
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and on this team we have you know, Stubbs

609
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: is very funny. Marsh is very for There's a lot

610
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of great person and

611
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: allies in this clubhouse as well. That's one of the

612
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: reasons why they're so close and why they have so

613
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: much fun is is they are very, very loose and relaxed.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: I did want to make one comment about you've mentioned

616
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Speaker 2: the Phillies did a great thing. They in their Dominican Academy.

617
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: They named fields after Chuch Carlos Luiz, Bobby A. Bray,

618
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: You and Juan Samuel and they also named guests her

619
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Speaker 2: bullpens for Roally de Armis, long time instructor manager. I

620
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: think that that was a really really cool thing for

621
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Speaker 2: them to have done. I'm not sure whose idea it was,

622
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: but but that was really awesome. I mean, three three

623
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: or four iconic Latin American players and people in this organization,

624
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: and that was that was pretty classic.

625
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Speaker 3: And they hit all the Phillies, they hit all the

626
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: baseball hotbeds. You know, Juan, someone else from the Dominican

627
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: chooses from Panama, Bobby's from Venezuela, and I think Rowley's.

628
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Roots are yep.

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Speaker 3: So they Yeah, I agree with that because you know,

630
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: It's funny. You'll talk to a young player and he'll

631
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: not know who that player who was thirty years ago.

632
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 3: You know, I remember talking to a player who didn't

633
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: know who not long ago, who didn't know who Willie

634
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: Stargell was, and I had a hard time believe in that.

635
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: But it's just life. Life goes on, and you know,

636
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 3: the young player in the Dominican Academy. One day we'll

637
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: walk by Bobby Abreu field and maybe take the time

638
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: to learn about Bobby Abreo as a as a player,

639
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 3: Carlos Ruiz as a player and a man, Wanston well

640
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: as a player and a man. And I think that's

641
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: how you build legacy, and it's what the great franchises do.

642
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: So yes, tip of the.

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Speaker 1: Hat, our buddy six Stow asked me a question, how

644
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Speaker 1: many Ruben Tomorrow junior cards are there on my wall

645
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: behind me? The answer is zero. I have zero Ruben

646
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Junior cards on the wall behind me.

647
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 2: It's very disappointing. They had me in then MLB network.

648
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Speaker 2: By the way they do at different times, they do

649
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: a bunch so but this is not a slate against you.

650
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: So these are all cards basically I collected when I

651
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: was in the you know when I was a kid

652
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: in the eighties and so have no room. But this

653
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: is true. I was just at Carl's Cards in Havertown

654
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: the other a couple of weeks ago. Took my kids

655
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: there after they played in the rain in the Little

656
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: League and I wanted to get out of the house.

657
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: Went over there. Of course, they got Pokemon cards, because

658
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's what they do. But I did

659
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: ask them if they had any Ruben Tomorrow Junior cards

660
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: because I was thinking of a sneaking one on the

661
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: wall behind me. They did not have any Ruben cards,

662
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: but they are going to keep an eye out for some,

663
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: so maybe, uh maybe we'll maybe I'll get some on

664
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: the wall. Eventually we got another.

665
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: Made, like eight or ten of them.

666
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: I think you must say, yeah, yeah, I've seen them, twelve,

667
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen them online for sure.

668
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: They did they They are out there, they are out there.

669
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: They're not very pop there.

670
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: I got I got one Robin.

671
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 2: That's very nice.

672
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: So Chris, his handle is Chris three three is a

673
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: bunch of numbers. After he goes what's your favorite Van

674
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: Halen's song?

675
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: Oh wow, are we talking? Uh what era, the David

676
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: Lee Roth era, or the Sammy Hagar.

677
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: Era, whatever hear you like.

678
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: So Hagar era I like a lot. I like the

679
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: Hagar era Beta probably dreams. But in the davidly Roth era,

680
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: Hot for Teacher, I love Hot for Teacher, like the video.

681
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: I love the song.

682
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: I love when when he looks like but I love

683
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: that line I don't feel tardy.

684
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going jump only because that reminds me

685
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: of being in the car with my parents driving to

686
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: just you know that that car that song, when that

687
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: came out, I remember just it being in the radio.

688
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: So that just kind of takes me back to being.

689
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: A kid whose warm up song was that? Jump?

690
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Is it a Phillies player?

691
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: Yes?

692
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: Maybe before my time? I don't remember. Was it before.

693
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 4: You covered him? Ruben traded for him? He pitched a

694
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 4: long time.

695
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: Jamie not Jamie Moyer, Jamie Moore, Jamie Moyer. I do

696
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: not remember that.

697
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: How about that? How about that I'm a running with

698
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: the Devil guy.

699
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

700
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: That's way back. That's way back right, That's when I

701
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: was growing up.

702
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good that's a classic. Come on, Rubin,

703
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: how this question for you? How do you stay ready

704
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: to hit when you're not playing every day? This is

705
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: from Matt Wrigley.

706
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, the beauty of it now that they have this

707
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: and I don't really know the name of the actual device,

708
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: but one of the things that they have now there's

709
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: a lot of different ways to do it. There's different drills,

710
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: but one of the cool things is they have this

711
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: pitch some later that actually shows And I was working

712
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: with my brother on a different prototype of this with

713
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: some other engineers that didn't get off the ground, but

714
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: it now has been perfected where you can basically throw

715
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: the pitches and you can simulate the actual pitch that

716
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 2: the pitcher throws, and so you can put a act.

717
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: You can actually put the put the screen up and

718
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: do the video of the guy and he ends up

719
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: like going into his wind up and throwing, and so

720
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: the actual pitch, the rotation, the spin, you can duplicate

721
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: it with these machines. It's pretty extraordinary and I think

722
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: pretty much, I don't know how many teams have these

723
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: devices now. They're not inexpensive, but the Phillies have one

724
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: in their cages here. I think that they have one

725
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: or two in the David Montgomery complex at spring training.

726
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: I have not it's super secret, so I haven't been

727
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: in there. But these devices and these pitch simulators are

728
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: pretty amazing. I would love to have had those when

729
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: I was in my pinch hit mode and pinch hit

730
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: days so that you can actually see them that and

731
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: they do high velocity stuff because everybody's throwing, you know,

732
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: in the bullpen especially, you know. And I think that

733
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: that that's a good drill. Those one of those drills

734
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: that can really help simulate. And there's a virtual reality

735
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: stuff that some people use as well, the VR stuff,

736
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: And I think what Dan and O doubt is. I

737
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: think he and his son are involved in that, and

738
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: and that's another way to do it. But that's that's

739
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: a good way to visualize and to actually see pitches

740
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: and to react to them. Have your brought your eyes

741
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: and your brain you know, sort of react to things.

742
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of devices to do it with,

743
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: much better than you know, when we used to just

744
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: take my buddy and I used take my boy Kevin

745
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: Jordan in the back and they give me some soft toss,

746
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: throw me some VP or whatever, get me ready. Now

747
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: they also have they also have like the uh, the

748
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: assistant hitting coaches. There's two or three of them now,

749
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: so those guys will go back there and throw some

750
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: VP and get them try to keep them ready. And

751
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: there's a lot of different things that they can do.

752
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: But there's a long winded way of saying, there's a

753
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: lot more opportunity and there's a lot better technology to

754
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: be able to be prepared.

755
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: Y's you know, all these facilities now and the technology

756
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: you can, Like, if you're facing Aaronola, you can upload

757
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 3: all his spin, all his pitches, all the data, the break,

758
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: the vertical, this, that, and you can mimic that pitch

759
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: so a guy can watch it. And you can do

760
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: that in a state of the art, state of the

761
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: art batting cage right behind the dugout. It makes you

762
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: know if if an infielder is going to go in

763
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: to the game, he can go into batting cage. It's

764
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: long enough and get some throws in it, take a

765
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: few want hoppers. It just it changes the dynamic for

766
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: how a bench player can stay ready nowadays, the technology

767
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: and the facilities, and it makes me appreciate the stories

768
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: I would hear as a kid. I you know, growing

769
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 3: up in New England, I'd hear stories about well, I'd

770
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: hear stories about Yustreemsky. On the night maybe he wasn't

771
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: in the lineup, he would spend the game in the

772
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: clubhouse with a bat boy who would flip him rolled

773
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: up sanitary stockings and into you know, the sanitary went

774
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: a ball and he'd smack him to get ready to

775
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: pinch hit. Nowadays, the facilities, and it makes me marvel.

776
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: The Red Sox have a batting cage now behind the dugout, right, Reuben,

777
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: They dug into the earth and they built a batting cage.

778
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 7: But yes, in four they did not. They had nothing.

779
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 7: They had a teeny dugout and a teeny clubhouse and

780
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 7: that stolen base by Dave Roberts, the history making stolen base.

781
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 7: He goes in there and he steals that base on

782
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 7: Rivera and Pasada by that much. And to be at

783
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 7: top speed the way he was with essentially no way.

784
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: To warm up.

785
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: Maybe in that dank tunnel he was able to run

786
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: a little bit underneath the stands there. But nowadays, if

787
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: you think you're gonna pinch ruck, you can go up

788
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: in the batting cage and get a good stretch in.

789
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: You can actually run you know, do some breaks and

790
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: run the old facilities. In the old baseball, you had

791
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: none of that. So staying ready as a bench guy

792
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: was very difficult. And it makes me just marvel at

793
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: what Dave Roberts did that night.

794
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was viewed as sort of bush league. I

795
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: know this because this is death was my job. It

796
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: was sort of bush league to be doing sprints like

797
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: in between innings, to do out do it out there

798
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 2: on the field. People were looking at it. You like, dude,

799
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 2: this is the major leagues, you know, do that stuff.

800
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: So you had to get loose. And I mean I

801
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: remember being in veteran stadium doing breaks and leads in

802
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: the in the clubhouse, on the tunnel or the tunnel,

803
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: running up you know, up the tunnel, and just to

804
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: get my legs loose in the stretch out. So I

805
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: want one quick thing about getting ready. I remember Albert

806
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: Bell was super meticulous about everything he did. And Albert

807
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: Bell basically had this guy who would flip him balls

808
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: in between at bats every and he had to flip

809
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: them perfectly because Albert wanted to, like, because he knew

810
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: that he'd be getting attacked on the low part of

811
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: the zone. He'd have this guy throw like nothing but

812
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: flips like he'd swing like ten or twelve times every

813
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: just before he was going to hit every single day,

814
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: every day and every game and every bat before he

815
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: would have it at bat. I mean it was you

816
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: talk about I mean, the great ones do this stuff.

817
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: The great ones have these routines. He in particular, man,

818
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about being neurotic about it, and

819
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: I mean it paid off because he was real successful

820
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: get hit.

821
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you guys when you think back to listen

822
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: back to the Chase Utley episode, what kind of sticks

823
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: out to you guys? It was such a fun listen.

824
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: I actually listened to it a couple of times because

825
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: I enjoy I enjoyed listening to his answers so much.

826
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: It was it was a ton of fun.

827
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: It was insightful, and obviously it was great to have

828
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: a few laughs and loosen up a little bit because

829
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: he was such an intense player. I kind of liked

830
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: the stuff that he and Ruben went back and forth

831
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: on the trade and how he said it was a

832
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: sad night. But then you know, with the passage of time,

833
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: and he even spent a little time in the front

834
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 3: office with the Dodgers. He really grew to understand the Phillies'

835
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: perspective on the trade and what they were trying to do.

836
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: So I I enjoyed hearing him come to that understanding

837
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 3: of it all.

838
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 4: But I enjoyed the whole thing. It was a lot

839
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 4: of fun.

840
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, same here. I mean, I was fascinated. So a

841
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: couple of things. We all know how thoughtful he is

842
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: about things, and I just you know, when I listened

843
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: to him and I listened to him talk, it's really

844
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 2: interesting the level of and I know he's a grown

845
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: man now, but the way he thinks about things, I

846
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: think it was a very very cool thing for me.

847
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: It's fascinating that they would take his kids and take

848
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: them to Europe to give them that experience. I think

849
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: that that is fascinating just as a just as a

850
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: decision to make with he and Jim, that that's really

851
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: cool stuff. Anytime you can give your kids the experiences

852
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: that they were able to do, I think that that,

853
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: you know, that's one really unselfish, and two I think

854
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: it's really really thoughtful on he and Jim's part. That

855
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: that was sort of fascinating as a father and wanting

856
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: to give your kids, those experiences that was that was

857
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: that was kind of neat for me.

858
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: So for me, I thought the fact that people always,

859
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure I know you guys get this too. People go, oh,

860
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: Reuben h who are the good guys in there? Who

861
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: do you who do you like? What's Chase like? What's

862
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: Bryce like? What's what's Zach Wheeler like?

863
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: Right?

864
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: You guys get that all the all the time. And

865
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: to me, it's very telling. If you want to know

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Speaker 1: the type of person that Chase Utley is, just know

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Speaker 1: that when they were doing those Playoff share meetings years ago,

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Speaker 1: he was the guy in the clubhouse going, we're taking

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Speaker 1: care of the clubbies, the guys making thirty five grand

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Speaker 1: a year, picking up after you, you know, the guys

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Speaker 1: that run errands for you, the guys that do all

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Speaker 1: the stuff. We're going to hook them up and give

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Speaker 1: them some life changing money.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think I look back that in eight the World

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Speaker 1: Series share was like the full share was like two

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety thousand dollars. This past year was over

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Speaker 1: five hundred grand. And the fact that Chase in those

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Speaker 1: meetings was making sure that those guys were taken care of,

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Speaker 1: to me, says everything, because two hundred ninety grand is

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Speaker 1: a lot of money, and there are players out there

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Speaker 1: that will say, we're earning that money, we should keep

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Speaker 1: that money for ourself. Yeah, Chase said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: We're giving it to these guys that make garbage money

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Speaker 1: and making sure that we can do something for them.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you. I will tell you that as

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Speaker 2: a GM when we went through that run, and you know,

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Speaker 2: when you start thinking about the playoff money, that all

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Speaker 2: these other you know, people that were making people are

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Speaker 2: working in the clubhouse, people travel, people who are I

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Speaker 2: mean all types of people that you don't that Chase

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Speaker 2: was referring to. I get people like that come to

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Speaker 2: me all the time, thanking me for sort of changing

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Speaker 2: their lives. I mean, if you start thinking about the

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Speaker 2: accumulation of money that they made over that five year

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Speaker 2: period when we went to the playoffs every year, that's

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Speaker 2: a lot of money, and it's changes these people's lives

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Speaker 2: and it gives them an opportunity to do a lot

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Speaker 2: of things. And I get people thanking me for that

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Speaker 2: all the time. It wasn't me. It was a bunch

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Speaker 2: of people, but they're really grateful. And I think if

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Speaker 2: we look into this clubhouse right now. I think I

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Speaker 2: understand that Kyle Schwarber was huge with that too. He

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Speaker 2: is that guy, He's the guy fighting. There's others obviously,

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Speaker 2: but in particular, I know that Kyle Schwarber's got that

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Speaker 2: same sort of mindset, which is why you love that

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Speaker 2: guy and why he needs so much to this ball club.

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Speaker 1: Billy's open at three games seat this weekend against the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Friday Night Tonight Miles Michaelis versus Aaron Nola. Saturday

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Speaker 1: It's Sunny Gray versus Ranger Suarez, and Sunday Night Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Baseball, Sunday Night Baseball, Lance Lynn versus Taiwan Walker.

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Speaker 1: So and then they have Reys Hoskins possibly coming back

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Speaker 1: early next week. We will be back on Monday. And

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Speaker 1: if you have not gone and listen to it, definitely

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Speaker 1: check it out. It was great, guys, so always a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun to chat with you. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: guys on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Lewis, Matt, Saint Louis. They're playing good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're better, great fun.

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Speaker 3: Enjoyed it and of course I'll smell you guys later.

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Speaker 2: Smell it, Jim.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm