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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is the production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much

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Speaker 1: for tuning in. Let's give it up for the man,

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Speaker 1: the myth legend, our super producer, mister Max Williams. Huzzah

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Speaker 1: zon indeed, and let's hear it for Marti Gras, which

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Speaker 1: is one of the biggest celebrations in the United States

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Speaker 1: every year.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ben Noel. I have to ask you. Have you

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Speaker 2: been to Marty Gras?

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Speaker 3: Huzzah, huzza, No, no, I I've been to like Marty

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Speaker 3: Grass themed restaurants. I have been to New Orleans, but

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Speaker 3: not during Marty Gras, but they kind of keep a

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Speaker 3: Marty Gras vibe there year round. You know, people drinking

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Speaker 3: hand grenades in the streets and vomiting in alleys.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's about what Marty Grass about, right, Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: New Orleans is such a unique town and it definitely

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Speaker 1: has a unique vibe. It's the kind of place where

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Speaker 1: you can find music and live performances. It seems in

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Speaker 1: almost every part of the neighborhood, even.

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Speaker 3: As alleys or people are vomiting. Sometimes there's brass bands

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Speaker 3: set up, you know, serenading you.

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Speaker 1: And my first time going to New Orleans was very

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Speaker 1: strange because I came in the middle of something that

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Speaker 1: it was this charity event where people put on red

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Speaker 1: dresses and they, from what I could tell day, drink

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Speaker 1: and I noticed it. No one told me what was

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Speaker 1: were at breakfast and I saw, you know, several tables, women, men,

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Speaker 1: you name it, and no no children though that's an

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Speaker 1: interesting outlier. The women, men, you name it except for

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Speaker 1: children in these red dresses. And I was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: these people are drinking pretty heavily, even for a brunch.

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Speaker 1: And then as the day went on, I saw more

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Speaker 1: and more people in red dresses getting progressively intoxicated until

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Speaker 1: it was like like three point thirty or something, and

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Speaker 1: then there was someone throwing up. There was a lady

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Speaker 1: just screaming Darren in the streets, and I thought, wow,

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Speaker 3: That's a fat Tuesday tradition, screaming Darren in the streets

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Speaker 3: and puking in red dresses.

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Speaker 1: Well, this red dresses, it's the Red Dress Run, which

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Speaker 1: takes place in August. So it was August eleventh. I

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Speaker 1: must have been there for my birthday. It's okay, so

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Speaker 1: it's really hot and they're running and drinking.

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Speaker 2: At least that's the ones I noticed the most.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well this was for our Darren in the streets though Noel,

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Speaker 1: I know that we both are big fans of New

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Speaker 1: Orleans and we, with some help from our research associate

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Speaker 1: Max Williams, decided to look into a very specific aspect

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Speaker 1: of Marti Gras, which is the ridiculous desserts of Fat Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: What is fat Tuesday?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Fat Tuesday also known as Shrove Tuesday, which is

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Speaker 3: fun for us because Ben, oftentimes this tradition started by

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Speaker 3: you when we have ads to do or housekeeping things.

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Speaker 3: At the end of our recording sessions, Ben and then

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Speaker 3: the rest of us have followed. Suit often asked are

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Speaker 3: we shriven? Yes, Shrove? I guess is what tents of

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Speaker 3: that is of Shriven?

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Speaker 3: It's too early for me to do, said, it's diagrams,

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Speaker 3: that's not what this is calls. But yeah, if you're Shriven,

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Speaker 3: then you've been Shrove. No maybe yeah, yeah, it's Shrove

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Speaker 3: comes from Shrive. It's the confession of sins as a

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Speaker 3: preparation for lent, a practice that dates back to Europe

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Speaker 3: in the Middle Ages. Yeah, and Fat Tuesday, Shrove Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Marty Gras, these are all essentially I mean, no, they are.

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Speaker 3: They're interchangeable, right, I mean, they sort of have different

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Speaker 3: of this season. Fat Tuesday is obviously a day of excess.

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Speaker 3: It really refers specifically to the Bacchanalian kind of you know,

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Speaker 3: is just kind of the holiday. I guess, right, I

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Speaker 3: mean I don't know, but would you would you assign

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I like your point about the term that people choose,

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Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, like a lot of Christian holidays, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of appropriation of pagan traditions

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Speaker 2: Of them to a degree.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it's like if we take them over and

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Speaker 3: subsume them into our thing, our goded thing or single

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Speaker 3: goded thing, then perhaps these heathens you know, will follow

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Speaker 3: suit and they'll forget, will wipe their version of it

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Speaker 1: Religious syncretism very popular with the Catholic Church during its

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Speaker 1: expansionist phase. They would roll into a new community and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: this thing you're doing, you're actually already into Catholicism. You

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Speaker 1: just didn't know the right words to use. Your God

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Speaker 1: is actually a saint, and you should venerate that saint

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Speaker 1: God of Catholicism. This is a common occurrence throughout history.

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Speaker 2: Also, you're doing it wrong. Also you're doing it right.

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Speaker 2: To do it a little bit more like this.

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Speaker 1: Everybody learn Latin right now, now it's easy and do

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Speaker 1: all this free labor.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, this is something Marty gross wrow Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Roman Catholic communities. Right, and this is on the day

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Speaker 3: before Lent. To your point, Ben, Lent is a season

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Speaker 3: of abstinence, right, So what better way to precede a

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Speaker 2: Make it all balanced out right, kind of like New

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Speaker 2: Year's Eve vibes, you know what I mean. Hey, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna do goodt next next time, tomorrow. Yes, today, we're

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Speaker 3: And if we don't die or you know, eat ourselves

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Speaker 3: ourselves right for the coming year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let me have a large cheeseburger, a pizza, fries, and

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Speaker 2: Well, we're at it.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you give me a multi colored sweetie roll

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Speaker 3: stuffed with the baby yes, or or we will accept

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Speaker 3: a figurine of a child. Indeed, I'm sorry, let's just

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Speaker 3: you know what that sounds a little more tenable.

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Speaker 1: So, as you can tell, we already quickly recapped an

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Speaker 1: evolution of Marty grass And while well, while the festival

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Speaker 1: some version of it exists in Brazil and Venice and

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Speaker 1: most Americans will be familiar with. Marty Gras has evolved

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Speaker 1: into a week long festival. Traditionally, it's celebrated on Fat Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: that Tuesday before Ash Wednesday, the beginning of Lent. As

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Speaker 1: preparing for it well in advance. And that debauchery includes gluttony.

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Speaker 3: Gluttony indeed, and just to really quickly just get into

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Speaker 3: dead after being crucified by the Romans. Essentially, Lent is

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Speaker 3: Something, you know, kind of to feel like they're involved.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know too many folks that are doing

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Speaker 1: Not related to Lent honestly, yeah, But we know that

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Speaker 1: practicing Christians, a lot of practicing Catholics. But Marti Grass

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Speaker 1: is not for Catholicism alone. These days, there are a

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Speaker 2: We'll call it the tourists.

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Speaker 1: Well, sure, the period though that you're talking about this fasting,

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Speaker 1: this preparation, this has been observed before the Festival of

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Speaker 2: It's a really good question, Ben.

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Speaker 3: We you know, typically we know that the Catholic Church,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And as we know, food is a big deal. Ridiculous historians,

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Speaker 1: just to add, those Sundays were excluded. Sundays were excluded

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I guess that is probably I mean, I'm

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Speaker 3: certain it's where the term breakfast comes from, the idea

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Speaker 3: of breaking ones fast.

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Speaker 1: Breaking a fast yep. So I think that gives us

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Speaker 1: And we've painted a picture of why Fat Tuesday is

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Speaker 3: I love this idea of this kind of parallel you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should also not the king cake colors are representative.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's an actual functional, uh kind of use for

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Speaker 3: Ky yeah, which if you read it on paper, you're

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Speaker 1: Also, since we learn witness protection in the US will

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Speaker 1: It's weird because if you look at it and you're

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Speaker 3: But the kind of kind of classic versions of the

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Speaker 3: and these were sort of the ingredients that they had

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00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: on hand since the Middle Ages. The ponchet kind of

436
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: fit the bill for the Polish you know, indulgence on

437
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: the day before ash Wednesday. They actually make them a

438
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 3: little bit further in advance, and that they make them

439
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: the Thursday before ash Wednesday, so the previous week. And Ben,

440
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: did you mention that, as you mentioned, you did mention

441
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: that the festival is so kind of centered around this

442
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: dessert that it sometimes gets another name, you know, pop

443
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: Ponchki Day. Yeah, so we've got we got another one

444
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 3: to add to the list of kind of stylings on

445
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: Marty Gras Shrove Tuesday, Fat Tuesday.

446
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: Now we've got Ponchki Day.

447
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: And it makes a lot of sense. Historically, those ingredients

448
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: that we listed out the traditional ingredients, those are luxurious things.

449
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: So if you are celebrating Fat Thursday back in the day,

450
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: you want to use up all your luxury urious ingredients

451
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: because you can't eat the lard and sugar during the

452
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: fasting period of lint.

453
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: It didn't occur to me. I mean, you know, because

454
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 3: things like butter and they will you know that that

455
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: stuff will spoil, so best to just get it all out.

456
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: Also probably maybe to cut down on temptation. Yeah, you

457
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: know what, that's a really good dough too. And look,

458
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: this stuff doesn't the dough doesn't collapse when you bite

459
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: into it. It is deep fried, it's flat. It has

460
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: that fruit or cream filling.

461
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: They the fruit filling is traditionally supposed to be prune,

462
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: but you can also get versions with apricot, lemon, raspberry, blueberry, custard,

463
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: you name it. And we got to see where punchki

464
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: waiys in on the caloric scale.

465
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: Uh, it's gonna be about three hundred to four hundred

466
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 2: calories a pop per Yeah.

467
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 3: Slice, well, no, it's not a slice, it's a it's

468
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: a it's a handheld.

469
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a single serve, single doughnut. It it's very

470
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: similar to a donut.

471
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: Very similar to adona. But no, we're gonna get to

472
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: the potato e one next. That one's interesting.

473
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: That's right. It is very very yeasty.

474
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: By the way, so that's that adds to some of

475
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: the carbiness of it all. We're looking at around forty

476
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: upwards of forty grams of carbs per and between twelve

477
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: and twenty five grams of fat. Which does this outrank

478
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: the Kingcake slice on every front?

479
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: Per slice?

480
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, on the first slice. And this is the one

481
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 4: that actually I built this article out of. So the

482
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 4: idea I got was on a Super Bowl party last

483
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: month or not last month, back in February. So one

484
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: of my friends who showed up, he's from New Orleans.

485
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: He bron kin cake. I gotta be fun to write about.

486
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 4: But being from Detroit, my whole family's from Detroit. We

487
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: grew up being Pooonsky's. So this is like, yeah, this

488
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: is the fast thing that we have because it's a

489
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: big Midwestern thing. There's a very large Polish population in

490
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: Chicago and Detroit and stuff. So I was like Poonsky's.

491
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: And I was actually telling my mom yesterday, I'm like, Hey,

492
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: we're gonna recording an episode about poosch Key's. So she's

493
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 4: super We're excited to hear about this.

494
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: Hello missus Williams, Hello, and we hope we do you

495
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: probably and really quickly I am very excited to announce

496
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: I guess that I am going to Detroit for the

497
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: very first time later this year. I'm gonna go see

498
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: one of my favorite bands, Mister Bungle has reformed, and

499
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: they're playing one of my favorite albums of there is

500
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: disco Volante, at a place called the Fillmore. I guess

501
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: this is in downtown Detroit, and I'm going there with

502
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: some friends and we're staying for a few days and

503
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: I have to pick your brain, Max on some stuff

504
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: to do. But it seems like a really interesting city,

505
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: and it's one that I've never been to.

506
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: Travel under the name Ponchek Punchki.

507
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: I will it's at the very least, we'll check into

508
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: the hotel out of that name. I've always wanted to

509
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: check into a hotel under an assumed name. It seems

510
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: like the easiest thing in the world to.

511
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: Do it is they just they'll use your actual name,

512
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: like they'll want your ID and verification for your card,

513
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: so they will know your real name, but they'll give

514
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: out they'll give out a face name if you ask.

515
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you've got to kind of give them

516
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: a little wink wink, nudge nudge.

517
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: Don't say, here's my fake name.

518
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: Right like most people. If you're nice too, though, they'll

519
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: want to help you out. And as long as the

520
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: name is not, you know, an aggressive combination of.

521
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: Curse words, they'll usually I'm not gonna speak those out loud.

522
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry exactly. Yeah, I don't care what kind of

523
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: tip you give me.

524
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: Well, this is interesting because I'm not aware of this

525
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: treat and now I've got to try one.

526
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: It sounds delightful, and you know, while you're there, maybe

527
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: you can bribe the hotel folks with a paun check.

528
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Or if that doesn't work, maybe you could try to

529
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: slide a foshnt their way. I'm sorry, a foster snot.

530
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, that's not a fastest.

531
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna put on my my my young

532
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: German bully hell real quick. And it's actually fast nach

533
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: Nacht because knacht.

534
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: Means night, and I think we'll get it to the overall.

535
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: The word itself is German and it means fast night literally,

536
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: so FoST Knocht is the evening of the fast and

537
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: let's see. They're often by by Mikhaela Miller for Lancaster

538
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: Online describes them, or at least describes the way people

539
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 3: often describe them, which I think is always an interesting

540
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: thing to claim as little puffs of pillowy goodness.

541
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, which sounds good, uh because it's literally goodness.

542
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Right.

543
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: So, according to the article what are fast Knocks The

544
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: story behind this treat on visitpa dot com, they made

545
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: their way across the Atlantic when German immigrants first started

546
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: coming to America on mass and they're synonymous with Pennsylvania

547
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: Dutch culture, kind kind of like those decorated barns that

548
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: you can see out in different areas of Pennsylvania.

549
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: And those delicious little ham rolls they make.

550
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 3: You ever had those? You ever been to a Dutch bakery?

551
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: Literally there used to be when in Augusta where in

552
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: my hometown called the Little Dutch Bakery, and it was

553
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: run by Mennonites, which is a particular, you know sect

554
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: of Dutch, you know, religious culture where they have like

555
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: they wear head coverings and such. But they have this

556
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: wonderful little bakery and they made these incredible ham rolls.

557
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: And I bet you they made FoST knocks as well.

558
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: So this is another treat associated with lint and Shrove

559
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: Tuesday This particular one, however, might appear to the untrained

560
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: eye to be very similar to a donut.

561
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it.

562
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: Couldn't be farther from the truth, right, looks could be deceiving.

563
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Centuries and centuries ago, apparently someone deep in German culture said,

564
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: you know what, picture this a donut that is also

565
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: a potato and everyone went, you should be in charge

566
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: of more things a potato nut, yes, or a foss knut.

567
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: So it's interesting because it's it's only in certain cultures, like,

568
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: for example, in the Jewish faith and culture, you have

569
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: you know, lot keys, which I typically think of potato

570
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: e things as being savory, and you know, a lot

571
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: key on its own certainly is savory. But then there's

572
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 3: some versions of it that involve putting some sort of

573
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: like apple compote kind of on top, and then it

574
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: sort of becomes this like vessel for sweetness. And that's

575
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: what we're seeing kind of here. Only typically, you know,

576
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: whereas a doughnut would be made of a wheat flower

577
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: bas you know, or a flowery base for the carb,

578
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: this uses potatoes that are kind of whipped into a

579
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: consistency that is more like kind of like a pillowy

580
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: little dome retreat as opposed to like, you know, mashed potatoes.

581
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, they're not a round. Traditionally they're square

582
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: or try angular, and now I think more and more

583
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: in recent times round ones are normalized. But they still

584
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: will never have a hole in the middle. So if

585
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: you were ever in a weird situation, you know, someone

586
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: has a gun to your head and they say, you know,

587
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: it's the end for you. If you can't just tell

588
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: the difference between these various things that look like doughnuts,

589
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: well we'll give you a leg up. The one without

590
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: a hole in the middle. That's that's your bet for

591
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: FoST knock. Never a hole shall be found in a

592
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: in a fast knocked.

593
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: Uh. They are sometimes triangular as well. You usually believe

594
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: they're square. And by the way, we wanted to mention too,

595
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: if if you're trying to picture what does potato dough

596
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: feel like, think of like a nookie. If if you

597
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: ever had that that that kind of potato based pasta,

598
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't taste potato. We exactly, it doesn't

599
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: come come the mouthfeel of it doesn't feel that consistency

600
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: of like a mashed potato. It really does feel like

601
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 3: a dough so you're essentially using potato to create something

602
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: that very much is a recognizably doughy consistency.

603
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: And in this weird donut hostage situation, if you are

604
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: allowed to touch the baked goods, you'll notice that our pal,

605
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: the fostnits, is also a little bit heavier and denser

606
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: than a doughnut. And if you're allowed to bite one, again,

607
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: this is a very weird situation you're in hypothetically, but.

608
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: If they're like, no, take a bite.

609
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Take a bite before you say anything, you'll notice the

610
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: fast nut is not as sweet as the typical US doughnut.

611
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: It really does feel.

612
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: A lot like a lot key to me, only it's just,

613
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: you know, a lot key literally is like mashed potato

614
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: that you fry up, you know, and make into us

615
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: like a flat little disc and fry up in a pan.

616
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: This is going to have more height than a lot key,

617
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: but a lot caa. But I believe there's gonna be

618
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 3: some similarities because it is deep golden brown with a soft,

619
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: kind of tender interior. But again, because they're making it

620
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: into a dough I feel like the bite of it

621
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: is going to be a little more like a yokie,

622
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: whereas yeah, chew here, whereas the mashed potato the potato

623
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: lotkey is going to feel more like a nice crispy

624
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: exterior with mashed potato in the middle, or like a parochi.

625
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

626
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: And before we get to the caloric intake, which we're

627
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: doing for each of these, we will note that there

628
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: is a beef about spelling. If you go to Pennsylvania,

629
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: you'll see that Lancaster County has held for a long

630
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: time that fast knocked without a middle tea is the

631
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: correct spelling and comes straight from good old Pennsylvanian Dutch.

632
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: And that's according to doctor Mark Lauden, an expert on

633
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Dutch language. However, people will tell you that you're

634
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: not wrong for inserting the middle tea because it refers

635
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: to the period of lent when fasting is the order

636
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: of day. Fast and traditional German means the same thing

637
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: as it does in English. So whether you see it

638
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: spelled fas in acht or fast in acht, you are correct.

639
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: I fell into trivia voice, I fell into bar trivia

640
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: voice like and the answer is either one. So congratulations

641
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: to you for surviving this weird doughnut situation. One slice

642
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: of this stuff, or you know, just one serving of it,

643
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventeen calories, twenty four grams of carbs,

644
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: twelve grams of fat. And that's the basic version. That's

645
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: like the factory version. Of course, you can get some

646
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: with a lot more added on and a lot more

647
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: calories involved. I've got one, Noel. I've not learned about

648
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: this one. I've heard some version of most of these

649
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: on this list, but I am unfamiliar with semlar am

650
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: I even saying that correctly, semlar I.

651
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: Think you are.

652
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: It is Swedish, so it does sound like a piece

653
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: of ikea furniture, perhaps a footstool of some variety, given

654
00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: the shape of this thing.

655
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: It is.

656
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: Essentially it's something you may have seen on a Great

657
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: British Baking Show, if you're a fan of that delightful program.

658
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: It's basically like a Claire kind of but it's a

659
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 3: Swedish a Claire. It's essentially two doughnuts as the bread,

660
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: and in the middle you've got some variety of delightful

661
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: cream pilly. But it's like it's not it's not stuffed

662
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: inside of a closed circuit donut. Yeah, it's like it's visible,

663
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: so it actually makes for a pretty nice presentation too, actually,

664
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: you know, and Paul Hollywood would give you his cold

665
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: blue stare of death if you dared to make the

666
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: cream look not neat or not.

667
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Who's Paul Hollywood. He's the host of the judgment.

668
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: He gives you the handshake if you do a good job,

669
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: and it makes people weep because he's so hardcore and

670
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: his eyes are icy blue.

671
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: I thought you just knew some guy going by Paul Hollywood. Yeah, oh,

672
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: Paul Hollywood.

673
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: You don't want to meet that guy in the dark alley,

674
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 3: especially on fat Tuesday, because he might puke on you.

675
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: And uh, if you're very lucky, he might be puking sembla.

676
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: We're kidding.

677
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: Uh.

678
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: The way to the man and I love that the

679
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: way the way to eat.

680
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: Cebyla is from a reputable baker. Uh, you should be

681
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: the first person to eat it.

682
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: Ideally, now, ben you you may recall, uh this this

683
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: delectable treat from a previous conversation about like royalty that

684
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: died weirdly remember the guy, but then there was this

685
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: guy we'll get to. King Adolph Frederick Max referred to

686
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: these these treats very delightfully, to the point where I

687
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: almost believe that it was a thing people said as

688
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: king killers. Sembla's are still quite below despite their reputation,

689
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: which we'll get to in a minute, but ridiculous historians

690
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: may already know where we're heading. Simla is a wheat

691
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: flour bun again doughnut, uh and it flavored with cardamom,

692
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: which is neat because that is not that I think

693
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: of that typically as a as an East Indian spice.

694
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: And oh it's so wonderful. I mean like some of

695
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: the earliest We did an episode on ice cream recently,

696
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: and some of those early you know, cool fee, I

697
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: believe is what it was called, those Indian desserts, the

698
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 3: frozen kind of pops. They were flavored with cardamom, and

699
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: obviously cardamom is a very popular now. You get those

700
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: cardamom pods, those green green guys, and smash them up

701
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 3: in your order and pestle and make yourself a nice

702
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: garam masala or whatever spice plan you're into.

703
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: Coffee Lamburiani, this hat Carnival, dude, you know what I've

704
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: got coming in the mail?

705
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: What's a tajin? Yeah, it's incredible. There's this fabulous restaurant

706
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: in New York called Cafe Mogador, and they do these

707
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: tajen lamb things and it's basically slow, slow, slow cooked lamb.

708
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: In this clay oven and cardamom would be a fabulous

709
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: seasoning for that.

710
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: We're not talking about that. We're talking about flavoring donut

711
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: creamy donuty things with cardiom So flavor with cartera Mom.

712
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: Almond paste is one of my favorite flavors. I love

713
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: mar Zapan. I'm a big fan of almond the paste

714
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: anything and whipped cream. So it's an almond paste kind

715
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: of combined with the whip cream. So it's gonna have

716
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: a really rich, you probably flavor with some vanilla, I

717
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: imagine it would have to be. It's gonna have a

718
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: really rich, earthy kind of taste.

719
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: Is how what I describe as all, oh, wait, what

720
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: you might be saying, you know what this is missing

721
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: a bowl of hot milk.

722
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is how that guy died. Hot milk.

723
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: He got a bunch of he got a bunch of

724
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: semlas and just kept dunking them dunk of milk and

725
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: eating them. You know, he was actually, you know, the

726
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: tragic inventor of the Dunkaroo now that I think about it.

727
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and friend of the friend of the show in

728
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: the podcast network, John Cameron Mitchell of Hedwig and the

729
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: Angry Inch, fame a very very fun trivia effect about him.

730
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: Was the original voice of the dunk Guru Kangaroo in

731
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: those ad campaigns from the nineties that we all remember.

732
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: See Nothing happens in a vacuum, that's what we're saying.

733
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: So now, at some point we know that people in

734
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: Sweden got a little tired of strictly observing lent. So

735
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: that's why they added cream and almond paste to this mix,

736
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: this semla stuff, and they started eating it every Tuesday

737
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: between Shrove Tuesday and Easter. Because the church doesn't enforce

738
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: these fasting practices the way that it did in times

739
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: of old, you'll usually see semla appearing in bakery windows

740
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: as near after Christmas as deemed decent. It's kind of

741
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: like sometimes even before Christmas. It's kind of like how

742
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: in the US the sale season for things keeps creeping

743
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: bought larger and larger, right, Like you'll see stuff for

744
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: Christmas right after or Halloween.

745
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: Right, that's right. This is kind of what's happening with somewhat.

746
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: The idea of, like what is the appropriate time to

747
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 3: like trot out the Valentine's Day you know, ghak or whatever.

748
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: It's usually literally the day after the previous season or

749
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: holiday has expired. By the way, you mentioned dunking, right, Yes,

750
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: not only dunking. Actually the traditional way of doing it

751
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 3: is to pour the stuff on top of it. And

752
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: Paul Hollywood, as I mentioned, he's got a recipe that

753
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: I believe is pretty traditional. He infuses the warm milk

754
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: with cinnamon stick.

755
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a cinnamon fan. No, you ever know the

756
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: cinnamon challenge.

757
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: I tolerate it. I recognize it's right to exist.

758
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair. I appreciate that.

759
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, cinnamon challenge was one of those Internet the things

760
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: where people were just like trying to swallow cinnamon and

761
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: because of the particular particles of it are so fine,

762
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: you can't do it.

763
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: It just causes you to immediately choke and gasp.

764
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: Also, in the Anarchist Cookbook, which had a bunch of

765
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: at least the versions I saw, had a bunch of

766
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: things that might be considered trolling or pranks on the reader,

767
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: like ideas of alternative ways for people to become intoxicated.

768
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: You know, the nutmeg, the Sailor's high, that's one of

769
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: the sailors high. It is lousy with nutmeg on ships

770
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: because there that's how nutmeg is getting around.

771
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: I get okay, Oh of course the spice, the spice trainers.

772
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

773
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we should maybe we should maybe talk about

774
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: those weird uses of things as.

775
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: Drugs in a future episode episode. Yeah, the Sailor's high.

776
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: Well you can why get high on drugs, folks, when

777
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: you can get high on semla and hot milk. This

778
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: burger shaped candy like it's structured the way a hamburger

779
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: would be structured, except there's creamy almond filling instead of

780
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: a patty, and it's all tops of whipped cream. Now, Noel,

781
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: this takes the cake. This takes the king cake out.

782
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: Traditional semla just one five hundred calories.

783
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, worth every penny, worth every every much lower unit

784
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: of currency.

785
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big fan of this kind of treat.

786
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: Like I would, I would kind of liken it only

787
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: in its creamy fillingness to like a canoli. The canoli's

788
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: obviously a more brittle, you know, cookie type in casing.

789
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: I guess this is really more like maybe a napoleon,

790
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: but that's more of a custard filling, So it really

791
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: kind of is its own thing. The fact that it's

792
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: a specifically whipped filling, and I'm sure you know there

793
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: are stylings on it, like you could probably flavor it

794
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: with with fruit as well. You could make like a

795
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: maybe a strawberry type filling, but the traditional one really

796
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 3: is just that almond kind of paste, uh and whipped cream,

797
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: So whipped cream doesn't go on top. The topping is

798
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: like a powdered sugar kind of confection or sugar deal.

799
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: And I believe, as far as I'm telling on a

800
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: lot of these images and recipes that were seeing, the

801
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: filling is whipped cream sweetened with almond paste, you know,

802
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 3: so it's going to have that combined kind of consistency.

803
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: And like any of these traditional sweets, a lot of

804
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: them might be made at home, so you're going to

805
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: see nutritional facts differ widely between recipes, and if your

806
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: family has a particularly cool when you're very lucky, and

807
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: we'd love to hear about it. But semla just on

808
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: its own is innocuous as it may seem does help

809
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: explain why Frederick died after eating Oh gosh, remembering the

810
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: bold strokes of the episode, let's see, he had lobster

811
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: sausages with sauer Kraut caviare, and then he housed fourteen

812
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: semlas with milk.

813
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: I think we liken this or I liken this to

814
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: the bit on Monty Python's Meaning of Life with mister Kreoso,

815
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: the enormous man, you know, with the I think it's

816
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 3: I forget what actor was, I think it's h Eric

817
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 3: Idol may be dressed in like a giant fat suit,

818
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: you know. He gorges himself and then he's like at

819
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: the end, he's like, I don't.

820
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: Have one more thing. And then the guy's buddy, it's

821
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: a wifire thin.

822
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: He gives him like a little little tiny crisp and

823
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: he puts it on his tongue with a tong and

824
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: then jumps behind a barricade and then the guy explodes,

825
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: and uh.

826
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Terry Jones, Terry Jones, there you go.

827
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: And Max, I believe you had not seen that before,

828
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: and you made the mistake of googling it and you

829
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: said it was a disturbing nightmare.

830
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Fuel.

831
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, to make it even worse. This past weekend, UH,

832
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: a couple of friends ticking me out to and all

833
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 4: you can eat cream barbecue restaurant from.

834
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: My brodd and which one.

835
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: Uh, I don't even know the name of. It's the

836
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: first time i'd been there. But we went there and

837
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: the entire time I talked about mister Kre sketch, and

838
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: the waiter kept coming up right when I was doing it,

839
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: and I pause, and why do you keep stopping this?

840
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: Like the story is incredibly disgusting, guys, And then I

841
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: sent them that thing and they were not very appreciative.

842
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: But the best part is when John Cleese, who plays

843
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: the waiter, he goes, I have judge it and miss

844
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 3: Sill's bucket.

845
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: It's good.

846
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: Not for nothing is Monday Python one of the best

847
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: sketch shows made in the English language. And not for

848
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: nothing is Marti Gras hosts to some of the best

849
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: desserts out there. Right now, we are on the cusp

850
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: of just talking about what we're going to get for lunch.

851
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: You know, as soon as you mentioned Korean barbecue, Maas,

852
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking we got to get out of here.

853
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: It's time.

854
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: I propose that we we call it here, We'll leave

855
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: you with a king who died pursuing excess, and we hope.

856
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: We know this is not in time.

857
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: For Marti Gras necessarily, but we hope that you have

858
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode and I can't wait to hear more

859
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: Marti Graus traditions and war stories on Ridiculous Historians on Facebook.

860
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: Jeez, Louise, the time just flew by. Ben. It's funny.

861
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: Before we started the episode today, you said how you

862
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: kind of like talking about desserts sometimes more than you

863
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: like eating them. We just talked about desserts for fifty minutes.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. I did not feel like that. I

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Speaker 3: thought we were like, well, ya really stopping? It seems

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Speaker 3: like we're under time. Surely there's more deserts to discuss.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, religious desserts.

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Speaker 2: Who knew? I think most people knew to some degree. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Probably we might be the ones who are learning the

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Speaker 1: most on this one. But uh but yeah, let us know.

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Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed this episode. Please tune in later

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Speaker 1: this week when we're going to explore this strange story

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Speaker 1: of monster trucks.

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Speaker 2: No more spoilers than that.

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Speaker 3: Moday Tuesday, Tuesday, Thursday, whichever day it comes out. I

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Speaker 3: am super excited about that one. Yeah, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna, you know, peak behind the curtain.

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Speaker 3: I think we're actually about to do it in just

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Speaker 3: a few minutes.

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Speaker 2: You won't hear anybody about it. Thursday, Thursday, Thursday about our.

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Speaker 1: Time travel and I can't remember truck a saur or

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Speaker 1: truck Asaurus was.

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 1: Well, big big thanks to mister Max Williams. Big big

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Speaker 1: thanks in advance to the creative minds behind Monster Trucks.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks to all those Marty Gros dessert experts. We

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Speaker 1: see you, We admire your work, and who else you

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Speaker 1: know what.

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Speaker 2: I love you, all of you. Yeah, yeah, you're all right.

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Speaker 2: You're all right.

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Speaker 3: Had huge thanks to Zach Williams too, to Jeff Bartletts

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Speaker 3: of of the of the of the Ridiculous Research Associates,

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Speaker 3: Extraordinary collective. Max, thanks again to you for this really,

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Speaker 3: really fun and educational doc Jonathan stricklm Ever made you rain.

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Speaker 2: We've okay, we've been teasing this one too long.

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Speaker 3: We did hang out with him in Austin as part

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Speaker 3: of our other show stuff that will want you to know,

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Speaker 3: but we still haven't gotten him, we haven't lured his

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Speaker 3: maniacal spirit back to our podcast realm, so we got

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Speaker 3: to make that happen.

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Speaker 2: What have we made him mad? Have we upset him?

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Speaker 1: No? No, he's just got a lot going on and

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Speaker 1: the only accept payment in kincake.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we can that. We can probably order some kin

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Speaker 3: cake up from.

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Speaker 2: Let's get him at Kingcake.

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Speaker 1: But instead of a baby in there, it's like a

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Speaker 1: little Jonathan strictly.

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Speaker 2: Oh that'd be cool.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, okay, you were, You were going much

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Speaker 3: more charitable than I was. But yes, we're gonna do

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Speaker 3: that and with that we will see you next time, folks.

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Speaker 3: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 3: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.