WEBVTT - 2018 SEC Autopsy Rulings

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid Verbo.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be happy for Dake Edith State.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the solid Burble boys and girls. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>ty Hildenbrandt, joining me as always over there in blustery,

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<v Speaker 1>apocalyptically cold New York City. My man Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good? Is it super cold in Allentown in eastern PA?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude? Did you get that the squall? A few men, God,

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<v Speaker 2>we got the squall?

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<v Speaker 1>They were talking about the squall like it was the

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<v Speaker 1>Second Coming, and it blew through here between twelve and two.

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<v Speaker 2>As expect Wallen Brown did. Yeah, yeah, man, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was something else. One one second it was fine, the

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<v Speaker 1>next it was a whiteout outside crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I first of all, if you are listening to this,

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<v Speaker 2>we're recording this when's day evening? That would stay the

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<v Speaker 2>thirtieth thirtieth of January thirtieth if you are anywhere in

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<v Speaker 2>the upper Midwest, so say Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>What about Fargo?

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<v Speaker 2>Fargo, the capital of college football championships. If you are

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<v Speaker 2>in the Upper Midwest Upper Plains area, we hope there

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<v Speaker 2>are multiple ear muffs on top of whatever you are

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<v Speaker 2>listening to us on right this very moment, and you

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<v Speaker 2>are doing everything you can to stay warm, and nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be a frostbite. Hero Ty, don't let anybody

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<v Speaker 2>be a frostbite. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent you a link that I saw frost quake

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<v Speaker 1>people in Yeah, people in Chicago were hearing booms and

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<v Speaker 1>it was due to something called a frost quake.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are Clayton Thorson listening to this show,

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<v Speaker 2>get get saved from the frost wakes. No clue. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's sort of like that with thunder snow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's been my favorite combination of weather terms that we've

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<v Speaker 2>had recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable. Well, welcome back in Dan. It's good to talk

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<v Speaker 1>today we're going to be talking a little sec and

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<v Speaker 1>by we I mean you, because you were the one

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<v Speaker 1>who recorded this show with our friend Andy Staples from

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Illustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Sands, Sirius XIM does a great job. Jason Horwitz there,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's College Sports Nation. I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>that correct because you know how much we do treasure

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<v Speaker 2>serious football content. Of course, yes, recorded with Andy already.

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<v Speaker 2>That's coming up here just shortly. But here is something

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<v Speaker 2>that I want to talk about real, not quick, but

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<v Speaker 2>medium quick. So I would say we've each had not

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<v Speaker 2>significant significant, two medium significant medical experiences. Recently. You won

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<v Speaker 2>the toss. So you are going to I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>your I guess it's mouth drama ahead of the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>show I did with Chip Patterson from CBS last week,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you had mouth trauma that needed to be

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with in an emergency way, and even though you

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<v Speaker 2>were actually available to record, you were a DNP. Mouth

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<v Speaker 2>is what ended up happening. If that gives you any idea,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is your instrument. Sure, this is your connection

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<v Speaker 2>to the college football universe. So what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you, how you doing? I'm good?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Better?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Week?

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<v Speaker 2>So walk me through everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'll try to give the a bridge

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<v Speaker 1>version because people ultimately, I think when you hear a

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<v Speaker 1>college football But yeah, I cracked a tooth before Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>It took a while to figure out that it was cracked.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually they end up testing it. And I'm the dentist,

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<v Speaker 1>but my evaluation of how they evaluate the tooth is

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<v Speaker 1>they put a little bit of liquid nitrogen or something

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<v Speaker 1>very cold on a small cotton swab and then put

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<v Speaker 1>it directly on your tooth to see what happens. Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen if we do this? And of

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<v Speaker 1>course they did that, and I almost jumped through the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was their indication that I apparently needed a

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<v Speaker 1>root nowl which I've never had done before. And when

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<v Speaker 1>they do this, they of course numb you up, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's this whole big, drawn out thing. You don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>it as it's going on in your numb for hours afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you also don't feel as part of that

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<v Speaker 1>process is when they stick the big old X ray

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<v Speaker 1>thing in there to double check and make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they've done the procedure correctly. It's not always done in

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<v Speaker 1>a gentle fashion, let's say, and in this case it

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<v Speaker 1>most certainly wasn't because they ripped up the entire left

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<v Speaker 1>side of my mouth, which meant that trying to talk results.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would have listened to this show entirely with

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<v Speaker 2>you sounding.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, Yeah, it had interesting results, and therefore the

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<v Speaker 1>instrument as you call it would not have been tuned

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<v Speaker 1>up to specifications because I couldn't really talk all that

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<v Speaker 1>well for about a week and I was very annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>by it. But now I'm back, I'm off the shelf.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems as if the procedure worked, it's not fully

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<v Speaker 1>done yet. I've got some other odds and now yeah, yeah, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't done yet. We've got two more appointments. But

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<v Speaker 1>everyone can relax. I'm fine. The voice is fine. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not having the voice problems like I did a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago. I'm back. I'm good to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we do a quick exercise before we get to

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<v Speaker 2>Andy where we're doing a sort of autopsy, taking what

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<v Speaker 2>happened with each SEC team in twenty eighteen and the

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<v Speaker 2>off season thereafter, and figuring out what it means for

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the future of these programs, these fourteen programs. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the exercise I want to do. I want to honor

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<v Speaker 2>your mouth, because this is why we're here, Ty, We're

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<v Speaker 2>here for honor. I want to quickly go through. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to do all fourteen teams. Whatever comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you pull up the SEC standings, I'll get you

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<v Speaker 2>got I've got them in front of me, in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you. I want to go through as many teams

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<v Speaker 2>as we'd like to do, you'd like to do whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to find the moment or stretch during

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<v Speaker 2>each team's twenty eighteen season that probably most felt like

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<v Speaker 2>their fans were getting a root canal while watching said

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<v Speaker 2>team in action. Okay, so I'll start off will I

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<v Speaker 2>will probably say LSU's offensive attempts, especially inside the forty

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<v Speaker 2>when they actually did get there against Alabama was probably

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like a root canal for a lot of LSU fans.

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<v Speaker 1>For Kentucky, that Tennessee loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's never fun.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost Tennessee and apparently some Kentucky fans out there

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<v Speaker 1>feel like listening to our show at times can be

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<v Speaker 1>like a root canal.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I would also say maybe the overtimes, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way for LSU against Texas A and M, especially

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<v Speaker 2>after coach O is drenched in gatorade and we're still

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<v Speaker 2>going and it's just when will this weird pain inevitability,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows what will happen end? I think that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>there too. I would say, first, there's multiple looking poor

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<v Speaker 2>against Tennessee. Root canals on here. I would say Auburn's

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<v Speaker 2>game against Tennessee at all, Oh yeah, for sure. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>had to have felt like a root canal.

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn the whole season was kind of a root canal.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything ended well, like there was that good wash out

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<v Speaker 2>that you probably got where you got all the gunk

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<v Speaker 2>out of your mouth at the end by that the

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<v Speaker 2>vacuum meet type thing. Yeah. Yeah, So I think that

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<v Speaker 2>Purdue is the switch and spit of Auburn season, all

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you say it ended well, and it did

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<v Speaker 1>in the Music City Bowl, but before that they lost

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<v Speaker 1>handily to their hated rival Alabama. Sure they beat Liberty,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course they beat Liberty. They lost to Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>they barely beat A and M. They what beat Mississippi

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<v Speaker 1>before that, Then they lost to Tennessee previous to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they lost the Mississippi State in there. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole season, at least on this end, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>predict Auburn football was certainly like a root canal watching

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<v Speaker 1>the ground game.

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<v Speaker 2>Unto itself. Yeah, I would say for A and M

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<v Speaker 2>still not getting over the hump. They had that long,

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<v Speaker 2>long road stretch right where they had Kentucky at home,

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<v Speaker 2>but Arkansas was a neutral neutral site games, South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State, Auburn all on the road. They lose those

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<v Speaker 2>final two games, still not able to get over the

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State hump, and then the second half against Auburn

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<v Speaker 2>for A and M fans, I think there's your root canal.

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<v Speaker 2>But again n C State full switch and spit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful Swiss and spit. I'm glad you brought that

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<v Speaker 2>term to this show. It can only mean we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>into gross.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Florida? Florida is an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 2>Felipe the Frank's throwing into the Georgia secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're going very specific, yes with your example, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think Michigan Swish and spit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you almost have to with Florida because new coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a pretty good season for Florida. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the definitely right. You have to come away from that

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<v Speaker 1>feeling pretty good. I think initially the loss to Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>felt worse than it ended up being because Kentucky, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one ten games, so it wasn't all that bad of

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<v Speaker 1>a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>No, in retrospect, a totally understandable loss to a very

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<v Speaker 2>good Kentucky team, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What else do we got on here?

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<v Speaker 2>The end of Missoo's game against Kentucky if we're sticking

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<v Speaker 2>with the Wildcat, where Missoo definitely should have won.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>Aside from thattional championship? If we're just going to stick

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<v Speaker 2>with the SEC season for Alabama, the first half of

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<v Speaker 2>the Georgia game, the SEC Championship game. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>painful to watch Tua hobbling around, getting hit, getting blitzes,

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<v Speaker 2>not get picked up, throwing interceptions, right, first half of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the thing with Alabama, if we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>compare it to dental work, is it's never serious dental

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<v Speaker 1>work where you actually need novacaine. Right, Like all of

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<v Speaker 1>their problems end up being cosmetic. Lose like ten assistant

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<v Speaker 1>coaches doesn't matter. Have a quarterback who's hurt for pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the entire second half of the year doesn't matter. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're really splitting hairs if you're trying to find things

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<v Speaker 1>that Alabama fans are going to treat as root canal.

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia special teams play calling is both the root canal

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<v Speaker 2>for Georgia and the swish and spit for Alabama. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for that call.

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<v Speaker 1>Swish and spit could be our new thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it has to be in a very specific way

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<v Speaker 2>to this show. Georgia ends. I mean that the Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>root canal is probably the first half of the Texas game,

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<v Speaker 2>the LSU game was It was rough, but losing in

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<v Speaker 2>Death Valley is not. It's nothing that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>feel consistently terrible and give you nightmares. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>very good LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I'm looking at Arkansas. Arkansas had

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<v Speaker 1>a very bad years.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a weekly Root Canal.

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<v Speaker 1>Schedule, Yeah, two and ten, a tough schedule. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were disappointed in Faetteville by the quarterback play, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with Chad Morris coming in.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I at least had an expectation that we would look

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<v Speaker 1>better than it did, and that was that was a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>All your Swish and spit was signing day. Yeah, nice

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<v Speaker 2>class coming in Swish and Spit was signing day there.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about the ending of the Missoo Kentucky game.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we I mean Vandy, I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're going into a Vandy season that you

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<v Speaker 2>have some cracked teeth. There's an expectation of there's a

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<v Speaker 2>work's going to be done low point. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably Georgia, but that's not the Root Canal. The Root

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<v Speaker 2>Canal was probably watching the end of the Notre Dame game,

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<v Speaker 2>because that game was there for Vanderbilt. Yes, it was

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<v Speaker 2>there for the taking and they could have beaten Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame in South Bend. I believe that game was in

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<v Speaker 2>South Bend. Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was so that you know that was there

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<v Speaker 1>and they weren't able to capitalize.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are we missing? Ole Miss? Mississippi State? Ole Miss

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<v Speaker 2>was was root canal all. It was sort of beginning

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<v Speaker 2>to end for ole Miss. There were exciting moments with

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<v Speaker 2>that receiving corps, but you know, you just get the

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<v Speaker 2>what the one win is over Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi State on offense. I expected more September's Mississippi State offense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>was one prolonged. Oh wow, this tooth is gang greenness

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to drill here right, Yes, that I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was. It was either thirteen our fourteen combined

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<v Speaker 1>points against Kentucky and Florida, two totally good teams, but

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<v Speaker 1>with that type of experience and talent returning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have three points against LSU seven, Kentucky six, Florida

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<v Speaker 1>and zero Alabama if memory serves right. Swish and spit was,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the ultimate Swiss and Spit is the egg

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl ultimate. It's America Swish and spit in so many

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. I think that about covers it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think that covers this. So we're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cut over to the interview you did with Andy. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back after. But you did a cool thing on

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<v Speaker 1>the ACC show you did with our friendship Patterson from CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're basically having the guest pick a number between

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<v Speaker 1>one and fourteen, as you did last week again this

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<v Speaker 1>week with the SEC, and then you talk about those teams.

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<v Speaker 1>All too often we just go in order a finish

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<v Speaker 1>or in reverse order a finish. This was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of a democratic way going about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think held interests pretty well, at least through one

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<v Speaker 1>conference autopsy. So we're gonna kick it over to Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Staples from Sports Illustrated, SI dot Com, Serius XM, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy the interview, all right, I don't make promises I

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<v Speaker 2>can't keep. So here is Andy Staples from Sports Illustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>And because honestly, you know what this episode is about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're doing an SEC autopsy and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>find the rulings. Who better than Andy Staples to figure

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<v Speaker 2>this out? But because this is not exactly pressing. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw this recently, and I want you to go further

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<v Speaker 2>into it because I get a lot of these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you get a lot of these questions. People

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<v Speaker 2>travel for college football and they want to know where

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<v Speaker 2>to eat, and they ask us these questions, what is

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<v Speaker 2>your source? I guess, other than me on the West Coast?

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<v Speaker 2>What is your source to figure out where to eat where?

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<v Speaker 4>Usually I call someone local, Okay, I call someone who

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<v Speaker 4>lives in the t and I say, what is the

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<v Speaker 4>place that you don't tell the tourists about because.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want them overrunning your favorite place?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>And that's how you find Archibald's Ribs in Northport, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how you.

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<v Speaker 4>Find Tara Jumaras in Norman, which is the best just

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<v Speaker 4>regular old text Mex place you'll ever. It looks like

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<v Speaker 4>the text mess place in your town, and probably five

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<v Speaker 4>others in your town that's a million times better. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know how to explain why.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a blind spot of mine, because I'm a big

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<v Speaker 2>Mex Max guy and have not spent enough time in

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<v Speaker 2>San Antonio or Oklahoma or El Paso places that really

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<v Speaker 2>do it right and have places that have been around

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<v Speaker 2>forever and I need to fill my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Blind spot for me too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my thing for years was it's meat and beans

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<v Speaker 4>and melted cheese. What possibly could make one better than

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<v Speaker 4>the other. But you go to this place and you'll

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<v Speaker 4>you may not be able to describe it, because I

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<v Speaker 4>certainly can't. Interesting, but it is significantly better, and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>What I think it is is a sort of some

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<v Speaker 2>of the parts rather than each individual. Like the enchilada

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<v Speaker 2>that you'll find on a good text Mex plate is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>The beans you'll find are fine. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like the when your syrup spills over onto

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<v Speaker 2>the bacon on a breakfast plate and then you get

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of waffle in that bite. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>about the symphony of flavors. In my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a good way to a good way

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<v Speaker 4>to put it, because you know that like tarahumara is

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<v Speaker 4>in Norman, so great fresh made salsa, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>big thing for me, like huge you better have good

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<v Speaker 4>salsa because and it better not come from a.

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<v Speaker 3>Jar, So that that's easy.

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<v Speaker 4>But the other thing they do is so when you

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<v Speaker 4>sit down, they sit the basket of chips in front

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<v Speaker 4>of you, they sit the saucea in front of you,

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<v Speaker 4>and they also give you a cup of kso, which

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking around the first time. I'm like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't order kiso. I don't want to pay for kso,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're like, oh, no, no, no, it's included. So

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<v Speaker 4>apparently I don't know how this happened, but apparently in

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<v Speaker 4>metro Oklahoma City, and for those who don't know, Norman

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<v Speaker 4>is kind of a bedroom community of Oklahoma City.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little a little bit out but not far.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently at the text mes places in town, keeso is included.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, and I don't know why no

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<v Speaker 3>one else does this, but there it's not extra.

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<v Speaker 4>So people who aren't from around there are just looking

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<v Speaker 4>around the table like what what is this madness?

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<v Speaker 3>What is this witchcraft?

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<v Speaker 4>And then people from there go to a Mexican place

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere else, and they're like, wait, where's the case.

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<v Speaker 2>You've grown accustomed to a certain way of life getting

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<v Speaker 2>keso on the table immediately it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, can you imagine if that was Somebody

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<v Speaker 4>on Twitter said it reminded him of the first time

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<v Speaker 4>he got charged for catchup in London that he grew

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<v Speaker 4>up in Oklahoma City. So when he went to when

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<v Speaker 4>he went to another Mexican restaurant and they charged for KEESO,

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<v Speaker 4>wait a second, this is supposed to be free. It's

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<v Speaker 4>sort of like when Chippotle came in and started charging

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<v Speaker 4>for chips. Yes, I was very anti Chippotle for years

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<v Speaker 4>because the idea of paying for tortilla chips just really

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<v Speaker 4>and really listen, I realized when I go to Moe's

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<v Speaker 4>or wherever, I am paying for the tortilla chip, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it is included in the price of the ap built

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<v Speaker 4>in yep, but my mind does not know that. My

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<v Speaker 4>mind is not grass. When I met Chippotle and I

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<v Speaker 4>have to pay an extra dollar nineteen or two nineteen,

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<v Speaker 4>it bugs me still.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I won't claim to be an expert

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<v Speaker 2>on all things food in Oklahoma, but another thing I

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<v Speaker 2>do know and consider Oklahoma to be underrated because of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what an Oklahoma style burger is?

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<v Speaker 3>The onion burger.

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<v Speaker 2>The onion burger they fry the meat with onions smacked

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<v Speaker 2>on top of it, so you get the crispy finn

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<v Speaker 2>burger with crispy onions all at the same time, and

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<v Speaker 2>could you eat a burger any other way after doing that?

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<v Speaker 3>See, I'm not a.

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<v Speaker 4>Big onion push, so that much onion flavor might be

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<v Speaker 4>a bit much for me. Although cooked onions I'm good

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<v Speaker 4>with fried onions I'm good with so I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to I have not tried one of the onion burger

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<v Speaker 4>places as one of those as i've been like because

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<v Speaker 4>of my irrational hatred of onions. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>I should do this because I don't want to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like this when it's everybody's favorite thing and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just my weird taste buds. But I probably should

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<v Speaker 4>try that next time I'm out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that we've spent a solid five minutes talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the least SEC state in the South and Southwest,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>The SEC tried to get Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. They tried really hard, that's true. And I

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<v Speaker 2>like that you use the phrase irrational hatred because at

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<v Speaker 2>some point you or somebody will write a book called

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<v Speaker 2>Irrational Hatred about the history of the SEC and.

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<v Speaker 4>It will football in the SEC. Yes, exactly, it will do.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be a great title for an SEC football book.

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<v Speaker 2>Write it down, put it in if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a writer listening to this, if you are Andy Staples

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<v Speaker 2>considering it, take out your iPhone or whatever, your Google

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<v Speaker 2>Android phone, put it in your notes. You never know.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start here. I have a list of fourteen SEC

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<v Speaker 2>teams with just sort of hazy thoughts and questions about each,

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<v Speaker 2>not really all put together. And I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you to give me a number between one and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>because it'd be easy to just say, let's start with Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about ed Orzron, let's talk about Kirby. You,

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<v Speaker 2>this is on you. This is the game show thing

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<v Speaker 2>we are doing because I can't help but be a

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<v Speaker 2>game show host. Give me a number between one and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and imagine that spinning wheel in your head.

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<v Speaker 4>You really did miss your calling. I feel like if

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<v Speaker 4>you'd have been born twenty five years earlier, you would

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<v Speaker 4>have hosted card Sharks.

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<v Speaker 3>So all right, let's let's do this. Let's okay, let's

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<v Speaker 3>play the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. Number seven, number seven. We go to

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<v Speaker 2>number seven, and that is going to be Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 2>A weird but fun and interesting year. I would say

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<v Speaker 2>it appears Inssissippi State is in a pretty good place.

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<v Speaker 2>Defense was great in year one, but they lose a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of pieces up front, Jeffrey Simmons, Montese Sweat whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot in the secondary. The offense was it

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<v Speaker 2>was somehow all right, even though it overcame maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>worst passing attack in the conference. So my question is

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 3>What it overcame.

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<v Speaker 4>Was Joe Morehead realizing, Hey, all these other places I've been,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't sort of force anybody into a system. I

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<v Speaker 4>just built the thing around what they do. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think he realized he was trying to force Nick Fitzgerald

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<v Speaker 4>into a system and make him be Trace McSorley and

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<v Speaker 4>he's not and so on. They once they settled on

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<v Speaker 4>that and realized that then they could work with some

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<v Speaker 4>stuff and I think that changed the season for them.

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<v Speaker 4>But listen, they have a quarterback. You know, Keton Thompson

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be the quarterback. I would argue that

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<v Speaker 4>he may what Joe moore Head wants better than Nick

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<v Speaker 4>Fitzgerald did. So I think that is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a very good thing for them. You know, as far

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<v Speaker 4>as defensive line goes, yeah, they lost some special guys

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.720
<v Speaker 4>but Mississippi State has always been able to find those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there are really good defensive linemen in the

0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 4>state of Mississippi, either in high schools or in the Jucos.

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<v Speaker 4>You should be able to have a good defensive line

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<v Speaker 4>a Mississippi State without a lot of you know, not

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<v Speaker 4>really going too far out out of your normal recruiting area.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that one should maybe not be as

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<v Speaker 4>good as it was because those you know, Jeffrey Simmons

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.159
<v Speaker 4>and Montes but are really special guys. But they should

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<v Speaker 4>have enough you know back there that you know they'll

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<v Speaker 4>be all right on defense. And I think the offense

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<v Speaker 4>should be pretty good. I mean Kylin Hill running the

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<v Speaker 4>ball and Thompson throwing it. I'll take that. I'll take

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<v Speaker 4>that next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially with there being a big concern about and

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Joe Moorehead's not from the South. I think all of

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 2>those questions were pretty were answered pretty emphatically, pretty quickly.

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then not from the South. Thing, Like, Joe

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 4>Moorehead's a very personable guy. He's the type of person

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:14.920
<v Speaker 4>that can connect with people from anywhere. I don't worry

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:19.120
<v Speaker 4>about him not being from the South. I think that's overblown.

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 4>You either are a.

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Person who can recruit or you're not.

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 4>And that's more of a personality trait than a regional thing.

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Fair, give me a number one in fourteen thirteen thirteen.

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 2>All right, we're going to Auburn. We're really going for it.

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I like this. Wow, Auburn is a team that I

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 2>think we can all agree not super stable as a program.

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 2>As soon as things look good, things go bad. Talking

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 2>about it is Quicksand so last year starts pretty well

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 2>with the winover Washington, they look okay, bad loss, I

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 2>mean a heartbreaking loss to to who do they lose

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 2>to LSU? Early on they look pretty terrible against Tennessee

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 2>and just sort of dicey, but then finished season super

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 2>well in the Bowl. So if ten is unbelievably stable

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:11.040
<v Speaker 2>and one is Auburn, where is Auburn today? In late January?

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 4>We're going to pick Auburn to finish like fourth in

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 4>the West next year and they're gonna win eleven games. Yeah,

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 4>of course, because that's what happens. When we picked them

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:23.639
<v Speaker 4>to have a bad season, they have a great season.

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:24.919
<v Speaker 4>When we picked them to have a great season, they

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:29.119
<v Speaker 4>have a terrible season. And contemplate paying, you know, thirty

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 4>two million dollar buyouts.

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 3>I just I don't know why.

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 4>And I realized they're going to get a bowl, the

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 4>Bowl bump of all bull bumps from what they did

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 4>against Purdue. But I think that was more of a

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Catharsis for the guys that we're leaving of. Hey, this

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 4>season didn't go the way we wanted to. Can we

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 4>please go out in style? And we please just you know,

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 4>make this better. But you know, Gus Milson calling plays,

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 4>I guess I never understood why he stopped, Yeah, because

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 4>isn't that the thing he was really good at?

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>MMM?

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 4>So why not continue doing it? And him calling plays

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 4>in the ball game certainly worked out well, and that's

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 4>great and probably made some people mad, like why why

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 4>why was there this conflict all season when if you

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 4>could have done this, why didn't you just do this?

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know how that's gonna work. But yeah,

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 4>they've just got to figure out what they're going to

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 4>do at quarterback. And the fact that they've they've not

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 4>been particularly active on the transfer market leads me to

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 4>believe that they feel like they got somebody and maybe

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 4>that's Bo Nicks, that's the incoming freshman. Maybe maybe they

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 4>like him, but they had opportunities. They could have gotten

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Austin Kendall when he was coming from Oklahoma. So I

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 4>think that tells me they like what they have coming in. Now,

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 4>we'll just have to see if it pans out, because

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, quarterbacks who signed with gus out of high

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 4>school have not done particularly well.

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.439
<v Speaker 3>They've done better with transfers.

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And cornerbacks who become quarterbacks. Yeah right, Okay.

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 4>If there was a corner that they could move to quarterback, yes,

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.360
<v Speaker 4>a corner at some other school that they could move

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 4>to quarterback, that would be fantastic.

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>But that smells on ideal.

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, But look from a talent standpoint, Auburn looks like

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 4>when they get off the bus, they look like LSU,

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 4>and they look like Alabama, and they look like Georgia.

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 4>So I don't think they're that far away from being good.

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.919
<v Speaker 4>And this is what happens with Auburn. That's why you know,

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 4>every couple of years they flip a switch and suddenly

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 4>they're great because they have good players, right, it's just

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 4>a matter of getting the chemistry right. So I think,

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe maybe they do get the chemistry right,

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:53.360
<v Speaker 4>maybe having a very clear organizational chart on offense will

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 4>help them more, because that seemed I think that's a

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 4>problem for the last couple of years.

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they're scheduled this past year down the stretch

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>going to Bama brutal. It's so brutal, so it can

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>only improve. I know they open with uh, well, I

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 2>think it's Oregon next year, but down the stretch they

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>have Georgia and Bama both on the planes.

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 4>And I'd rather open with the organ than play organ

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 4>in November next year because I think I think by

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 4>October November, Oregon's going to be really.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Really tough to be I hope. So I agree. Give

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 2>me a number, all right, let's go to number three.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Number three is LSU, who you just mentioned. I think

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 2>this is my prerogative. I think it'd be dumb to

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:35.239
<v Speaker 2>call a nine to three regular LSU season with an

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 2>inexperienced transfer quarterback, a sort of new offensive coordinator, wins

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 2>over Auburn and Georgia and o'll miss mind you and

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 2>a new year six win anything short of a good year.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 2>But if the clear formula for winning the SEC West,

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 2>aside from talent and defense, is being able to stress

0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Alabama vertically is LSU Are they self imposing a ceiling?

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I think their bigger problem against Alabama was in

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 4>the trenches last year. They just they just got whipped

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 4>up front. And I think they're going to be better.

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 4>And you're you've got, you know, now, three years of

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 4>ed Oorgron recruiting basically because he was the recruiting coordinator

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 4>for Miles that last year.

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 3>So you've got three years of.

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Him recruiting lineman, be they offensive, war defensive, you know what,

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 4>he knows what he's looking for.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.479
<v Speaker 3>I do think they're going to be better up front,

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 3>which they need.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 4>And and you know, in terms of guys coming back,

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I thought they came out fairly well on that.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Normally LSU does not. Normally LSU loses.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 4>Everybody that they could possibly lose, and so like getting

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Fijoko back, that's a big deal. Yeah, that's a that's

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.360
<v Speaker 4>a big presence in the middle of your defensive line

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 4>that you don't just replace very easily. So I think

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 4>I think they're going to be pretty good next year.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 4>Now here's here's the problem. Their schedule is always brutal

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 4>and they still play in the West you know, we

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 4>think Auburn's gonna be better, although Auburn has to go

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 4>to them, but they've got to go to LSU's got

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 4>to go to Tuscalousa, you know, Florida we think is

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 4>gonna be a little bit better. And they were pretty

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 4>good this year and they're coming to Baton Rouge. So yeah,

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 4>it's it's gonna be tough, but it's always gonna be

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 4>tough if you're LSU.

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 2>I think they go to Texas, right, Jak Texas is

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>week two? Yeah? And DK yeah.

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So I mean, listen, they've they've got what they

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 4>need now to be a very good team. I don't

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 4>know if they have the roster to beat Alabama yet.

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if they're there yet, but it feels

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 4>like they're getting closer.

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I think that's reasonable. I still want, like the the

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow thing, Like I feel like he is probably

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the best okay quarterback in the country, and I just

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>want a little bit more because there's so much speed

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 2>and there's usually so much talent.

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 4>You may get a little bit more because remember Joe Burrow, true,

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 4>where did Joe Burrow has practice last year in Columbus?

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 4>So you know, he's got a full offseason this year

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 4>to really get to know those receivers and he's not

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 4>getting thrown into this. So I think they're gonna be fine.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Because of the schedule.

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure the record is going to be appreciably different, right,

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 4>but they you.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Know, And that'll be the thing.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 4>There'll be pressure on Ozron at some point if they

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 4>don't take that next step of winning that game they're

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 4>not necessarily supposed to win, and that would be the

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 4>Alabama game probably, So they've got to break through at

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 4>some point.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 3>But then that's sort.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 4>Of the the ballot of everybody in the SEC West.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Eventually you have to break through and beat Alabama, and

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 4>of those teams, only Auburn's been able to do it.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>And we're also talking about an LSU team that was

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>like an eleven hour game away from being ten and two. Exactly.

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 4>We should not downplay that either, because remember this is

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 4>the team that people were saying, Oh, they're going to

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 4>be five and seven and Oordron's gonna get fired. No, no, no,

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 4>Oorgron's a good Yeah, for sure, that is a good program.

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 4>They are in the right direction. They just now need

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 4>to begin competing for SEC and national titles, which is

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 4>the hardest step to take.

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 3>So good luck with that.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good luck, give me a number between one and

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 2>fourteen that you haven't yet. Eight oh eight. We're going.

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>This is the earliest anybody will ever talk about the

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Vanderbilt Commodores, and I think that I think that's wonderful

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>because the Doors they kind of quietly had a totally

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>fine year. Kyle Shermer one of the best, what five

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>six quarterbacks in the conference? Keishon Vaughn was a wrecking ball.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 2>And I hate questions like this, I promise you I do.

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>But maybe there's something on the bone. Is having and

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>blowing late leads to Kentucky, Notre Dame, Miszoo, and I

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>think Florida all were like blown leads indicative of anything.

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Here's the problem.

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 4>This was your year with the senior quarterback and the

0:31:56.000 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 4>basically fourth year starter. Yeah, so now you're it's if

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 4>you're Alabama or Auburn or LSU or Georgia or one

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 4>of those programs and you lost a significant amount of

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 4>leadership or experience, you can still grow on that. The

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 4>problem is when you're a Vandy, when you're an Arkansas.

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 4>When you're a Missouri something like that, you're you're probably

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 4>going to take a step back just because the roster

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 4>can only be as good as that every couple of years.

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 4>So I'm not sure how much you can build on

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 4>that if you're Vanny Now. Getting Vaughn back is big. Yes,

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 4>the dude averaged seven point nine yards of carry and

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 4>he was he was incredible in that Bowl game. So

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 4>I think that's that's a big deal they have. You know,

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 4>they have some good pieces, but it's going to feel

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 4>like starting all over again because you're you're starting all

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 4>over again at quarterback.

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, got to make it count with those senior classes

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>in the way that like Kentucky Kentucky.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean that that's the thing. They

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 4>they sort of provided the model for how you're supposed

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 4>to have one of those seasons, and you know, you've

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 4>got to you've got to strike when you have that

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 4>kind of experience. That's that's the hard part. I mean,

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 4>And look, it's Vanderbilt. It's the toughest job in the league.

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Nobody nobody's expecting them to win the East, nobody's expecting

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 4>them to win national championships. It's not like the other jobs.

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's just hey, can you be kind of

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 4>good every once in a while? And they were all right,

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 4>and maybe they can be all right again.

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's go to Kentucky just because you

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>mentioned it. Yeah, yeah, Is Kentucky in a better place?

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And I assume the answer is yes than Vanderbilt, just

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>because of what Mark Stoops has been able to do

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>on the recruiting trail. But I don't want to ask

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 2>if it's repeatable twenty eighteen, because that's that's a tough ask.

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 2>But in terms of infrastructure and laying a foundation, are

0:33:57.640 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 2>they at least in a point where at a point

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>where an eight win goal is not crazy year in

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 2>and year out.

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 3>That's not crazy. Okay, You go any higher than that

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 3>and you are crazy.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 4>That's my thing is I don't want Kentucky fans to

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 4>start using this past season as a weapon against Mark Stoops,

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 4>because that happens sometimes with fan base, is when when

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 4>you have a team sort of outperform expectations and then

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 4>they start saying, well, why can't you do that every year?

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 4>You can't do that every year because you're Kentucky. You're

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 4>not going to do that every year. You're not going

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 4>to have that specialist season every year. This is the

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 4>sort of thing that you have to cycle up to.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 4>And listen, they had a roster with a great running

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 4>back in Benny Snell, a great offensive line, and that's

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 4>the sort of thing you have to build to.

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 3>That offensive line. Doesn't they don't.

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 4>Show up, you know, just Hey, we're gonna throw all

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 4>these guys in as starters together and they're going to

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 4>be great.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't work that way.

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't even work that way at Alabama or Georgia's,

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 4>so it certainly isn't gonna work that way at Kentucky.

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 4>You know, that took years to put together. It's going

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 4>to take, you know, another couple of years to cycle

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 4>up to another type of team like this. It also

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 4>helps to have a Josh Allen that that everybody kind

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 4>of missed on on defense who just rex opposing offenses.

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>But that's that's the deal. These are good recruiters.

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 4>They understand what it takes to build a good roster.

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 4>But because it's Kentucky and because nobody's perfect, you're not

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 4>going to be able to have that kind of roster

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 4>every season. As good at recruiters as this bunch is,

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 4>that's asking too much. So if they are a team

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 4>that is that that is seven or eight regular season

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 4>wins and then a bowl game every year, you should

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 4>be very happy with that. That that's a good place

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 4>for Kentucky to be. And then every once in a

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 4>while you have a season like this where you can

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 4>win double digit games.

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I think I think.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 4>They they sort of showed you the model. Now it's

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 4>up to the fan base to understand that that is

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 4>the model. That is every years. It's not every year.

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 4>So don't don't kill those guys if they go seven

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:04.839
<v Speaker 4>and five this year.

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Correct, And I will say they did a really good

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 2>job of taking advantage. And this is something we mentioned

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 2>with Vanderbilt of that year, with Florida with a new coach.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 2>With Tennessee with a new coach with a weird South

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Carolina year, they will.

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Didn't really take advantage of Tennessee.

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 2>They did, they did not. Excuse me, you're right, but

0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>in terms of okay, we have a bunch of seniors

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and we are not in the strongest SEC East. Ever,

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 2>it was it was a great time to take advantage.

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Right, And that's the thing look that the East is

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 4>gonna get harder. George's George is going to be better

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 4>than it was this year. Tennessee should be better than

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 4>it was, Florida will be better than it was. And

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 4>so they're gonna be losses where you had wins, you know,

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 4>in a couple spots. But that doesn't mean you can't

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 4>be an above average team and then build to another

0:36:58.880 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 4>great season.

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 3>It's doable.

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 4>I think this is a really good model that they've

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 4>set forth, and they seem to be pretty patient with

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 4>Mark Stoops, which I like. Mitch Barnhardt is an ad

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's been around the block a lot of times,

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 4>so he's not going to be one of those crazy

0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Hey you.

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Know, you didn't win eleven games this year. Year gone.

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 3>That's not going to be his style.

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 4>So that's the good news for Kentucky is they're going

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 4>to be managed properly. And listen, this staff's good. They

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 4>seem to be doing the things that make them want

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 4>to stay. Enjoy it, Kentucky fans, enjoy it.

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Give me a number two. All right, we're going to Georgia.

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 2>If my calculations I'm not very good at math, are correct.

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>So the end of their year, losing a winnable Bama

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 2>SEC championship, losing justin fields, looking pretty outmatched in the

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Sugar Bowl by the Big twelve runner up, losing both

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 2>coordinators for somewhat reasonable reasons, and now that they're measuring

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>themselves very clearly against Alabama, what is the big reason

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 2>to believe in Herbie three point zero.

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 4>That they've been right there each of the last two

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 4>years And they shouldn't given what they lost from from

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 4>twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen, should not have been right

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 4>there this past year, but they were. And now the

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 4>coaching staff has to avoid some of the in game

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 4>mistakes it made against Alabama because I think, as in

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 4>terms of off the field, recruiting, culture, program, all that

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 4>other stuff, they're doing what they need to do. Now

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 4>they just need to figure out how to beat them

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 4>on the field. And you know one way to do

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 4>that is when your starting quarterback is having the game

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 4>of his life, don't take him out twice in the

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 4>same series to put in the guy who you're praying

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 4>won't transfer.

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.840
<v Speaker 3>If it's if he's going to transfer over that let him.

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 4>It'll be okay because you already have a quarterback who

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 4>took you to a national title game and had you

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 4>up on Alabama.

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:57.479
<v Speaker 3>In the SEC Championship game.

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 4>Maybe ride him, you know, I realize that's not the

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 4>popular thing that you know, he doesn't look like Justin

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 4>Fields and doesn't you know, have the same athletic ability

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 4>as Justin Fields. He's not as tall, he's not as big.

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 4>But guess what, Jake fromm wins. And there's a lot

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 4>of programs out there that can't seem to find any

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 4>quarterbacks who can win. So you've got one enjoy it now.

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 4>They've just got to figure out how to how to

0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 4>get over that hump against Alabama.

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna do it. I know everybody's like, oh, Kirby

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 3>showed it.

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, he just can't hang with Nick Saban on

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:34.919
<v Speaker 4>game day as a game day coach. No, no, no,

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 4>he will break through. They're doing too many of the

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.799
<v Speaker 4>right things to not break through. And I think this

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 4>team is going to be better next year than it

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 4>was this year. I just that offensive line is going

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 4>to be fantastic. I know they lost a bunch of players,

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, obviously for Isaac Nada, and.

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 3>You look at what the NFL is doing offensively, you

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 3>have to go.

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 4>But like Elijah Holyfield, I think that's a case of

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 4>looking at the depth chart, looking at Zamir White, maybe

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 4>coming back healthy and going I don't know that I'm

0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 4>gonna have as big of a role next year, so

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe.

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 3>I'll go to the NFL.

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 4>They've got some players on this team, and I think

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna be able to block really well. The D

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 4>line will be older and more experienced, which was a

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 4>big issue last year. They never really found a replacement

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 4>for John Atkins. They're always gonna be able to find corners,

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 4>They're always gonna be able to find pass rushers. That

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:30.840
<v Speaker 4>they live in the best recruiting area in the country.

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 4>They really do. I mean, players from Georgia are athletic,

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 4>they're well coached in high school. You have pretty much

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 4>everything you want. It's just a matter of getting them.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 4>They've been getting them. So now they have to beat

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Alabama on the field, and the tricky part of that

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 4>is they have to they have to win enough games

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 4>to get to Alabama. They're gonna have to to beat

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Florida again. They're gonna have to They get Texas A

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 4>and M next year, so they're going to have to

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 4>deal with those teams. But if they can do that

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 4>and get another game with Alabama, they have been right there.

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 4>They just have to get over the hump, and I

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 4>think they can do it.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 3>You keep playing.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Them dead, even for fifty eight minutes or fifty nine

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 4>minutes or in one case, like sixty three minutes, you're

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 4>going to beat them eventually.

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 2>In a weird way. I think the Justin Fields thing

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 2>and the way he was used and the way he

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 2>was brought in sort of nonsensically at times. I almost

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 2>think that is going to be the thing that cements

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 2>the sort of ruthlessness gene In Kirby that he's never

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 2>going to play anymore. He's always going to play the

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>best player, no matter what.

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 4>Right you have to be ruthless, especially as you pick

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback. And one of the interesting conversations I had

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 4>during this season was some of the Ohio State beat writers.

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 4>This is right after Meyer had retired. I think they said,

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 4>you know why, what was the difference between Meyer and Saban?

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 4>And I said, the difference between Meyer and Saban is

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 4>that Saban would have started Dwayne Haskins over JT.

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 3>Barrett. JT. Barrett Senior year. Yeah, that's the difference. No.

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I think if you look across college football, the guys

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 2>who have really established themselves as the consistent double digit winners,

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it's understanding. You're gonna hurt feelings no matter if it's

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>a freshman or a senior.

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, and Meyer was a consistent double digit winner.

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 4>He just kind of did it his own way, right,

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 4>And one of those things was when he found a

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 4>guy he really liked, a quarterback, he was not moving

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 4>off him.

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Give me a number, all right, let's do number five.

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Number five is South Carolina your home state. If I'm

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>not mistaken, All right, here we go.

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Go Fox.

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 4>I used to have a hat that played the fight song.

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, you press the bill and it done. No

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 4>no no no no no no no no no no no.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>It would have been better if it played Sandstorm. But

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll accept it. I'll accept it.

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:58.439
<v Speaker 4>You know, Sandstorm hadn't been recorded yet, and actually Sandstorm

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 4>it took nine years after Sandstorm was recorded for the

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 4>students of the University of South Carolina to discover that

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 4>it existed, even though the rest of the country had

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 4>been listening to it when it was recorded.

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>There's a good untapped market of like euro techno that's

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 2>played by marching bands, that's played in stadiums well after

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they were popular, and I appreciate drut.

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Has probably moved to a place in Charleston.

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. They have to.

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:25.359
<v Speaker 4>He's got to be the most like the second most

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 4>popular person in the state of South Carolina behind Dabo.

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that's right. And can will never buy a

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.879
<v Speaker 2>mohito again in the state of South Carolina. All right,

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So game Cocks are Every game is close, it seemed,

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 2>other than maybe the Clemson game at the end and

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 2>the Georgia game. So my sympathy is to South Carolina

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>fans for all of the heart attacks. I didn't watch

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 2>a ton of South Carolina, but for a Will must

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Champ team. What happened to the defense and is it?

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Is it just a bad injury luck sort of blip.

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 4>I think probably because they overachieved their first two years

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:07.280
<v Speaker 4>under must Champ, and that has never been an issue,

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 4>whether he was the coach at Florida or the defensive

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 4>coordinator at Texas. Finding players on that side of the

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 4>ball and then putting them in the right spots on

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 4>that side of the ball has never been an issue.

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 4>So I think we can we can look at this

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:22.919
<v Speaker 4>as an anomaly and just say, all right, they're going

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 4>to be better defensively. Now, what does that mean in

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 4>terms of where they land in the SEC East is

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 4>another story entirely, because I think they're still going to

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 4>be looking up at Georgia. There's a chance they're looking

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 4>up at Florida. Then what happens if Tennessee's better? They

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.439
<v Speaker 4>can't seem to beat Kentucky. Now, eventually they're gonna they're

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna turn that around, but you know, they just really

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 4>cannot seem to figure out how to beat Kentucky. So

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, this is a team that that could be

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 4>the second or third best team in the East, but

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 4>they've got to they got to figure some stuf.

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I think that's right. And the offense did take a

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 2>nice step under a first year coordinator, and they'll have

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>a senior quarterback next year, so they're at least poised

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>to and I don't have the schedule in front of

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>me look better and maybe finished games out that they

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't in twenty eighteen.

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, that's that's the issue with them. I

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 4>Mean they always get Texas A and m out of

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 4>the West. So that's that's not a pleasant thing this

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 4>year because I think Texas A and M is going

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 4>to be better.

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 3>But I just I think they're they're probably due to

0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:31.479
<v Speaker 3>it's weird.

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 4>We have not seen a South Carolina team under Will

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.919
<v Speaker 4>mus Champ play to its potential. It's either played well

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:41.480
<v Speaker 4>above it the first two years well below it this year.

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:47.160
<v Speaker 4>So if they play too potential, then you're talking about

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 4>I would think, you know, an eight or nine win season. Yeah,

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I think that would be about right, depending on who

0:45:55.640 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 4>you know. A couple of toss ups. So I I mean,

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 4>if you're South Carolina, I think you should be happy

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 4>with that.

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that's right.

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 4>I know they got spoiled with their eleven win seasons

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 4>under Steve Spurrier and beating Clemson every year, but that's

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 4>not gonna happen anymore.

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Steven Garcia's do not grow on trees. That's just fact.

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. You can't just find a.

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Steven Garcia anywhere, or or is Davian Clowney or a

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 4>Marcus Latimore.

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Correct, give me a number.

0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 3>And honestly, those players are going to Clemson now.

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 2>They are going to Clemson. So we might as well

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 2>just give me another number before South Carolina fans become

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>even more despondent. Sorry, nine nine, let's talk Florida. That

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 2>worked out nicely. I would say, all things considered for

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 2>a first year coach, really good opening year, LSU, Florida State,

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Michigan wins. Hard to be disappointed with any of that.

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Only one really indefensible loss in Missoo, and Missoo is

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>probably a second tier SEC team. They just weren't.

0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 3>Missoo was kind of due with that point.

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Yes, you knew they're going to do that to somebody

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 4>in Florida just drew the unlucky short straw. This is

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:07.720
<v Speaker 4>the most optimism I have noticed in Gainesville in Wow, golly,

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 4>since Tebow was.

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.280
<v Speaker 2>The quarterback, J had Jim mcawaan really drained the place.

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Wow, well, even the muss CHAMPI years. They even after

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 4>that that really good twenty twelve season, nobody was particularly

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 4>optimistic because of the way it ended. They hammered by

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Louisville and it was like was this thing a mirage

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 4>or what? And so I think they feel like there's

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 4>there's definitely Ford momentum. Now here's the deal you have

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:36.280
<v Speaker 4>to build on that, and that's that's Dan Mullen's next step.

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 4>You've got to now be able to win some games

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 4>that actually their similar position to LSU, where you are

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 4>kind of where you need to be at this point

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 4>in your tenure. At some point you will be asked

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 4>to ascend to that national title contender level because Florida

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 4>and ls you expect more than you know. We've talked

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 4>about Kentucky and South Carolina. You know those places should

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:05.320
<v Speaker 4>not expect that. At LSU and Florida, they can expect

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 4>that and do so. I don't think that's going to

0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 4>be expected of Dan Mullen this season, but it will

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 4>be by twenty twenty. So better keep stepping that direction,

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 4>and you know, we'll see what happens. I thought what

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:26.160
<v Speaker 4>they did with Felipe Franks over the year was really good.

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:30.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean that is coaching right there. What you saw

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 4>in terms of his mentality changing over the year, and

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 4>I think the South Carolina game really turned things for him.

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 4>I think he realized, wait a second, this can be

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.000
<v Speaker 4>my team. I don't have to just be a placeholder

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 4>until they find their quarterback that they recruited. I can

0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 4>be the guy here and so we'll see if he

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 4>can hold off a challenge from Emery Jones, because my

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 4>guess is Emory Jones will be given every opportunity to

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 4>win the starting job in the spring practice, in preseason camp.

0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 4>But I think now that's going to be more of

0:48:58.880 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 4>a competition.

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 2>How far way with whoever behind center, whether it's Emery

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.879
<v Speaker 2>Jones or Filipe Franks. Are they from Georgia though, that's

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the measuring stick.

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 4>That is the measuring stick, And I don't know if

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 4>it's that side of the ball that you need to

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 4>worry about as much.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:12.439
<v Speaker 3>Which is strange again.

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so when we're talking about Florida, but they're they're

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 4>defensive recruiting was it tailed off so much under Mclawaine

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 4>that they're very thin on that side of the ball.

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 3>You saw it last year like when Marco Wilson went down.

0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 4>They're not as Remember how deep they were when muss

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 4>Champ was with all the defensive players. Yeah, it was crazy.

0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 4>So they're not there. They got to get back to that,

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.239
<v Speaker 4>and that's something I think they can do. I think

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 4>this staff is capable of recruiting that way and building

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.959
<v Speaker 4>that depth. But that's not something that happens in one year.

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 4>So they are going to be very dependent on good

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 4>injury luck defensively to stay afloat. It will get hard

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.320
<v Speaker 4>for them if they have a few key injuries, especially

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 4>in the secondary, and you know, if they can, if

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:05.839
<v Speaker 4>they can get through this year, I think then they'll

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 4>be more toward the depth level they need to be at,

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.399
<v Speaker 4>where it'll be more you know, more normal for top

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 4>to your sec team, where if you lose a guy, Okay,

0:50:13.840 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 4>it stinks you lost a guy, but there's another guy

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 4>who's pretty capable behind him.

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all sounds reasonable. One, four ten, eleven, twelve, fourteen.

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go to fourteen.

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Let's go fourteen.

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Big.

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh see, but I didn't do that. I didn't. I

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 2>went against expectations.

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 3>It's not in order of finish.

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not in order of finish. We are going to

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 2>miszoo because then I'm glad we are, because we just

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:41.320
<v Speaker 2>mentioned them as being due to beat somebody interesting and big,

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 2>and they did. There's a good case being made that

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Barry otom is the ultimate second half coach after his

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 2>two seasons just dominating late October and November.

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:53.879
<v Speaker 3>Every first time.

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, every young writer when they're writing their first

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 4>few game stories. Does their tail of two Cities lead? Yes,

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Barry Otem's Captain Taylor Two Cities Lead.

0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Like Barry Otams shows up to give the book report

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.279
<v Speaker 2>without having read the book, and he was like, well,

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:12.560
<v Speaker 2>there were two cities. There was a very grand tale

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 2>that you know, had a number of themes man versus man.

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 4>But it's almost like someone is feeding in the book

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.359
<v Speaker 4>as he goes and by the time he finishes, he's

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 4>an expert.

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.799
<v Speaker 2>This is true, And I guess the only parallel to

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 2>be drawn here is the end of the Kentucky game

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.720
<v Speaker 2>being just a total mess and not at all Miszoo's faults.

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 2>So they should have finished the season. What winning five

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 2>six in a row is their actual momentum. I know

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 2>they've recruited, all things considered pretty well, not for SEC standards,

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:44.880
<v Speaker 2>but I think that's a top thirty ish recruiting class

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 2>right now. Is there in your mind an ability for

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Miszoo not to obviously get back to winning the SEC

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:56.960
<v Speaker 2>East necessarily, but sort of being that second ish tier

0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:58.560
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC consistently.

0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, I mean they have a quarterback right now.

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 4>They have Kelly Bryant, so we know what Kelly Bryant

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 4>can do. And you know, if you put Kelly Bryant

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 4>against Alabama you might have an issue. But against the

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 4>teams in the SEC East sans Georgia, maybe I think

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 4>they're they can win. So you know, they get they

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 4>get West Virginia. West Virginia is probably not going to

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.320
<v Speaker 4>be what they were. Well, they're definitely not going to

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 4>be what they.

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Were last year. You know, I'd be more.

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 4>It's funny because they were going to play Neil Brown

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 4>one way or the other. Like if Neil Brown were

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.799
<v Speaker 4>still at Troy, I'd be picking Troy to win that

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.920
<v Speaker 4>game in Columbia, Missouri next year. But he's not at

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Troy anymore. And now I'm picking Neil Brown to lose

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 4>in Columbia, Missouri with West Virginia. As strange as that sounds,

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 4>but no, I think I think they have a manageable schedule.

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 4>Now it really comes down to what do you do

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:56.280
<v Speaker 4>in the games you can win in the East, Like Kentucky.

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 4>They should have won the Kentucky game last year. Can

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 4>you go to Lexington and win? You get South Carolina

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:04.120
<v Speaker 4>at home? They should have beaten South Carolina in South

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 4>Carolina last year.

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:06.399
<v Speaker 3>Can you beat them at home?

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, from the west, they get All miss they

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 4>should be able to handle them. You know, we'll see

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 4>what the two new coordinators at all miss but Missouri

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.480
<v Speaker 4>should be able to do it. They have a very

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:20.799
<v Speaker 4>favorable schedule, and I think we could be looking at

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.839
<v Speaker 4>Missouri as you know, sort of like we were talking

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:24.720
<v Speaker 4>about South Carolina.

0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 3>This this is a team that could be in that

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:28.240
<v Speaker 3>middle tier.

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 4>But they have to they have to win the toss ups,

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:35.279
<v Speaker 4>right and so like that, that South Carolina game early on.

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Is a big toss up for them.

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 4>They play them Week four in Columbia, Missouri, and you

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 4>win that game, you probably had all kinds of momentum

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 4>heading in the rest of your sec schedule. Uh, lose

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 4>that game and and then you gotta gott to recalibrate

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 4>your expectations. Now here's the thing. They can't be the

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 4>Missouri of the last two years. If they want this

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:01.600
<v Speaker 4>to work. If they can, if they can start strong,

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 4>this the schedule lends itself to them starting strong. So

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:07.880
<v Speaker 4>if they can start strong and then have the same

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of finishing kick that they've had, this could be

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 4>a really good year for them. But they they've got

0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 4>to figure out how to how to put it together

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 4>early in a season, and they've yet to do that

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 4>under Bury on.

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Them, I think that's all. Yeah, I'm excited. I think

0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 2>they have what the best returning tight end probably in

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the conference. Yeah, in Albert Oh so, I mean there

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 2>are pieces there that can be game changers.

0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, And Kelly Bryant has been in these games.

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:35.840
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's nothing that any of the teams on

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 4>their schedule are going to throw at him that he

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:37.919
<v Speaker 4>has not seen.

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Ah.

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Derek Dooley excitement one, four, ten, Yeah, sorry, he's

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 2>been well.

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Before we move on, he did well.

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>He did do well.

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 3>You know that we're allowed to make fun of him

0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:50.320
<v Speaker 3>as much anymore.

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 2>It's more of like the surprise that actually saying Derek

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Dooley excitement as being an actual real thing. All right,

0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>what are our numbers that we have one for ten, eleven, twelve, twelve,

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 2>text A and M very clearly. I mean, after the

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 2>best Clemson loss of the year, probably at full health,

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 2>they beat LSU, they win their bowl game the way

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 2>that they did, They're going to come into the season

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 2>with a ton of probably top ten, top twelve type

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 2>of hype conversation.

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 3>You're going to get the biggest bowl but ittable.

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's gonna be brutal, it's gonna.

0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 4>Be so so enormous. And their their schedule is awful.

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>It's wrong.

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Your schedule is so hard.

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh they could be a nine win team that finishes

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:34.320
<v Speaker 2>seven and five or a ten win team that finished

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 2>at seven and five.

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, they could be as good or better than

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 4>they were this year and the results not bear that

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:41.439
<v Speaker 4>out at all.

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you? Are you a Kellen Mond believer?

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm a believer, But I like him.

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I liked him, you know when when someone was

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:50.600
<v Speaker 4>still there and he played against Alabama and played them

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:54.040
<v Speaker 4>as about as tough as anybody could. Yes, I thought,

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:57.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, this guy, he's definitely got something to him.

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 4>It's just a matter of, you know, will put it

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 4>all together. And then of course he has to learn

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:05.840
<v Speaker 4>a new offense and everything else. So I do think

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 4>they have what they need at quarterback. I just and

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 4>they got players. I mean, that's one thing Jimbo Fisher

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 4>said when he got there, is pleasantly surprised because the

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.920
<v Speaker 4>cupboard was not bear. Someone left them playing players, and

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.600
<v Speaker 4>they they've obviously picked up you know, right where they

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:23.520
<v Speaker 4>left off recruiting.

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 3>So this is the issue though.

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:31.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like you go to Clemson, everybody's gonna pencil

0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:31.800
<v Speaker 4>that in his loss.

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 3>And if you win that game, obviously everything changes. But

0:56:34.680 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, you go to Clemson.

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:37.880
<v Speaker 4>And then week four, you got Auburn coming to you

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 4>in a game where you finally the home team finally

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 4>won the game last year, but in very odd fashion

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:49.440
<v Speaker 4>like A and M just gave it away. So does

0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:52.320
<v Speaker 4>the road team start winning again? And this this is

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 4>a series that I think other than the year Manziel

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 4>came in and just clabberd Auburn, I think it's been

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 4>pretty close most years. So and that's you, that's your

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 4>intro to SEC play, and then it just sort of

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 4>rolls from there. So and then you got to go

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.839
<v Speaker 4>to Athens late in the season, like your final two

0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 4>games are at Georgia and at LSU.

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 2>That's brutal.

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 3>That's brutal.

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to see it.

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:25.440
<v Speaker 4>But yes, that said in a vacuum, I think they're

0:57:25.480 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 4>a better team than they were this year.

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:29.840
<v Speaker 3>I think that's Zimbo Fisher is going to do a

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 3>good job there.

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And I think hear two of Mike Elco is going

0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 2>to be enormous.

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I mean, you know, getting them back with

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:39.840
<v Speaker 4>the kind of athletes that they can recruit, getting them

0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 4>back to playing good defense. I think that is a

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.000
<v Speaker 4>bigger key to consistency than anything else for you.

0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I think that's right. I'm excited to see

0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 2>them one four to ten, eleven, All right, eleven eleven.

0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Here here is your woo pig. This is the easiest question,

0:57:56.800 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 2>at least the most simple question in simple thought. Arkansas

0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:02.880
<v Speaker 2>was very bad in twenty eighteen? Is their reason to

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:06.960
<v Speaker 2>believe they'll simply be bad? I know what they get

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 2>an average American Conference quarterback who's familiar with their offense.

0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:16.320
<v Speaker 2>The offense I guess, yeah he was. He was pretty average.

0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Can they ascend to just below average?

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, because they're still trying to remake the

0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 4>roster into what Chad Morris wants it to look like,

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:30.160
<v Speaker 4>because that, you know, Brett Beelma.

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Didn't have a roster like that.

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know, because A and M's Like I said,

0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 4>A and M's better, LSU's probably better, Ole Miss will

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:44.440
<v Speaker 4>be better, Alabama's Alabama Auburn is you know, we're predicting

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 4>Auburn to not be good, which means they'll kill everyone.

0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 2>That's rough.

0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where the wins are. I just don't

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:53.320
<v Speaker 3>where the who.

0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Do you bet I'm pulling up their schedule right now.

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:56.959
<v Speaker 4>You know they play Missouri at the end of the season,

0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 4>and we know what Missouri does to teams at the

0:58:58.360 --> 0:58:58.920
<v Speaker 4>end of the season.

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 2>This is true, they can win. Oh god, this is rough. This,

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 2>You're right, this is I'm not a good enough detective.

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:09.959
<v Speaker 2>They have Portland State, Colorado State, Oh, miss San Jose State.

0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like you should beat Colorado State this year, should

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 4>beat San Jose State. Yeah, But in the SEC I

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 4>don't know. I mean, and they actually could be a

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 4>little bit better than they were, and I still don't

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:24.160
<v Speaker 4>know what happens. I still don't know where the wins are.

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:26.880
<v Speaker 4>There's a chance of teams that they have to beat

0:59:27.280 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 4>get better.

0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 2>They could start four and oh and finish four and eight.

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 3>It's entirely possible.

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a rough way to go through life. But yeah,

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they recruited relatively well, all things considered, that

0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 2>what you're recruiting to and what you have to replace,

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:43.480
<v Speaker 2>there's opportunities, certainly, and it just does not feel like

0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:47.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen is a okay, We're going to be frisky

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and nobody wants to play us, which is certainly the

0:59:49.920 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 2>first step for a competitive Arkansas team.

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Well that's the thing. At what point? Now? This is?

0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 3>This is the year when when.

0:59:58.240 --> 1:00:00.680
<v Speaker 4>Morris was at SMU, when we looked at it and went,

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:02.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where the winds are, and they wound

1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:05.840
<v Speaker 4>up beating Houston. I think they ended up going four

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:09.000
<v Speaker 4>and eight or five and seven, and then the turnaround

1:00:09.040 --> 1:00:10.320
<v Speaker 4>was completed the following year.

1:00:10.400 --> 1:00:13.320
<v Speaker 3>So maybe maybe he just has some year two magic

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:14.040
<v Speaker 3>that we don't know about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's possible. It's wait and see for me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think when Arkansas cleaned house and got

1:00:20.000 --> 1:00:21.960
<v Speaker 4>rid of Jeff Long and Brett Bielima, I don't think

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.280
<v Speaker 4>the people in, you know, making the decisions and writing

1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:28.920
<v Speaker 4>the checks were fully appreciative of how hard the job is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's right. One, four or ten, ten,

1:00:34.120 --> 1:00:37.360
<v Speaker 2>let's go ten. I love this offseason. I don't know

1:00:37.400 --> 1:00:38.760
<v Speaker 2>if it's going to do anything. I don't know if

1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be fun, but I love it so far.

1:00:40.760 --> 1:00:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss had a nightmare of a year on defense,

1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:49.280
<v Speaker 2>they win one sec game, but make probably the splashiest

1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:52.840
<v Speaker 2>duo of coordinator Hires and rich Rotten Mike McIntyre at least,

1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess in name are they those two in a

1:00:56.480 --> 1:01:01.160
<v Speaker 2>position at all to succeed they.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing there, there have been athletes on ole

1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 4>missus defense, true recently, and I realize everybody's going to go, well,

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:11.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's why they have NCAA violations and a lot. Yeah,

1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:16.600
<v Speaker 4>they got athletes pretty much across the roster. It's been

1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:19.960
<v Speaker 4>a case of putting those athletes in the proper positions defensively.

1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:23.120
<v Speaker 4>So maybe McIntyre's that guy, although I would argue that

1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:25.680
<v Speaker 4>that his greatest success at Colorado came when Jim Levitt

1:01:25.760 --> 1:01:28.680
<v Speaker 4>was running his defense, and then once Jim Levitt was gone,

1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:32.080
<v Speaker 4>then it wasn't that good anymore, Right, So you know,

1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:35.040
<v Speaker 4>we'll see. I definitely think Rich rod has a little

1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.720
<v Speaker 4>more work with. I realized they don't have the best

1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:39.800
<v Speaker 4>receiving core in America anymore like they did.

1:01:40.200 --> 1:01:43.560
<v Speaker 3>But Matt corral could be a good quarterback. We'll see.

1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:45.680
<v Speaker 4>The few times he got put in last year, he

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:50.360
<v Speaker 4>seemed to perform, So I think I think he's got

1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:54.480
<v Speaker 4>a better shot of early success than McIntyre does. The

1:01:54.520 --> 1:01:56.800
<v Speaker 4>thing is there's there's got to be improvement or they're

1:01:56.840 --> 1:01:59.520
<v Speaker 4>all gone. Yeah, you know that they're going to clean

1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:01.960
<v Speaker 4>house if they're not. Because Matt Luke's an interim who

1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:04.440
<v Speaker 4>got you know, got the full time job, he's not

1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:06.800
<v Speaker 4>going to get the same amount of time someone who

1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:08.080
<v Speaker 4>was hired from outside would get.

1:02:08.120 --> 1:02:11.160
<v Speaker 3>So they had better get better quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I again, this is the same thing

1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:19.480
<v Speaker 4>we were talking about with with Arkansas. Where are the wins?

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<v Speaker 4>I I, you know, you'll beat Arkansas, you know, I

1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:27.640
<v Speaker 4>think I think they should be competitive Mississippi State, Yeah,

1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:31.400
<v Speaker 4>but I worry about them against LSU, against Auburn, against Alabama.

1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know that's that's three right there. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say win A and M and yeah,

1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:41.560
<v Speaker 2>who do they So they have l s U, A

1:02:41.680 --> 1:02:44.040
<v Speaker 2>and M, they have Vandy. They should be able to

1:02:44.040 --> 1:02:47.240
<v Speaker 2>be competitive against Vandy. Again, they get Cal, which they

1:02:47.240 --> 1:02:49.600
<v Speaker 2>should be able to. I love that they're playing Cal.

1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I love that. You know, do you have a Berkeley

1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Oxford series? But yeah, I think they can probably aspire

1:02:58.000 --> 1:03:01.120
<v Speaker 2>to We're going to put point on everybody. You're going

1:03:01.200 --> 1:03:03.880
<v Speaker 2>to have to outscore us, and many and most will,

1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:06.520
<v Speaker 2>but I think they can aspire to that like two

1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:09.560
<v Speaker 2>thousand and five six Texas tech level.

1:03:09.880 --> 1:03:11.880
<v Speaker 4>And I think six and six should make you happy

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of improvement. Yeah, it won't make anybody happy there, No,

1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:17.040
<v Speaker 4>I think it should.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, if they beat Mississippi State, everybody will

1:03:20.360 --> 1:03:20.840
<v Speaker 2>be happy.

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<v Speaker 4>No, And that's that's the funny thing is they can

1:03:23.640 --> 1:03:26.040
<v Speaker 4>be five and six going into that game, win that game.

1:03:25.800 --> 1:03:26.880
<v Speaker 2>And get ball eligible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Success, we'll see at Memphis as a season opener.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no for them? One or four?

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<v Speaker 3>Four?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Alabama, which means I made Tennessee number one,

1:03:39.200 --> 1:03:42.800
<v Speaker 2>which felt right for some sort of twisted reason. So Alabama,

1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I did trick you. Aside from let's call it the

1:03:48.160 --> 1:03:51.720
<v Speaker 2>clear most important reason for the manner and very public

1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:54.760
<v Speaker 2>way in which the Tide loss, which is Clemson's excellence,

1:03:55.440 --> 1:03:58.600
<v Speaker 2>what was it? I guess if anything internally about the

1:03:58.640 --> 1:04:03.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen team that could have contributed to that sort

1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:06.680
<v Speaker 2>of out of character beat down.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't think it was something that happened in

1:04:08.400 --> 1:04:11.360
<v Speaker 4>twenty eighteen. I think it was when they were recruiting

1:04:11.400 --> 1:04:14.720
<v Speaker 4>corners and both of them were going after Justin Ross.

1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:16.960
<v Speaker 4>Clemson and Alabama were both going after Justin Ross, and

1:04:17.000 --> 1:04:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Auburn was also going after him. Justin Ross picked Clemson.

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<v Speaker 4>If Justin Ross picks Alabama, then that result is not

1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:31.120
<v Speaker 4>the same. There's not a wins above replacement receiver for

1:04:31.200 --> 1:04:33.760
<v Speaker 4>Clemson that you can throw in there. Maybe it's T Higgins,

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe not though, because remember, if you don't have Justin Ross,

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<v Speaker 4>you can put a better corner on T. Higgins, which

1:04:41.640 --> 1:04:43.800
<v Speaker 4>they did put a better corner on T Higgins. Justin

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<v Speaker 4>Ross was the one they kind of left, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>playing against the they're not as good corners, and you

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<v Speaker 4>saw what he did to them. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to find many situations where they face another

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<v Speaker 4>team that has recruited as well or better than they have.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just not gonna There's nobody else like that. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're gonna be fine in the SEC except

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when they when they ultimately play Georgia in Atlanta, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that's gonna be a really fun game,

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<v Speaker 4>just like it has been the last two times they've

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<v Speaker 4>played in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think they're gonna be okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Every everybody looks at the score of that game, and

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that the whole staff has has turned over, well,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole staff has turned over the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've still managed to be good. You know, as

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<v Speaker 4>long as Nick Saban's there, they're going to be good.

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<v Speaker 4>Now does this Does this portend a time when Alabama

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<v Speaker 4>is not the you know, dominant program in college football

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<v Speaker 4>and not the dominant program in the SEC?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, Nick Saban eventually will retire and then

1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:55.160
<v Speaker 4>they won't be anymore. So, but I think as long

1:05:55.200 --> 1:05:58.720
<v Speaker 4>as he's there, they have to be the favorite, and

1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:01.240
<v Speaker 4>you have to assume that they are going to be

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<v Speaker 4>the best team on any given Saturday in an SEC game.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just I think I think the downfall and

1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:13.000
<v Speaker 4>everybody loves to write those the dynasties over columns. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>do it yet, No, don't do it, say save save

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<v Speaker 4>that for later.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not time.

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<v Speaker 4>It did feel different, though, didn't it. It did feel

1:06:22.320 --> 1:06:24.760
<v Speaker 4>different because we've never seen them get beat like that. Right,

1:06:26.200 --> 1:06:28.480
<v Speaker 4>every other team has gotten beaten like that. We have

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<v Speaker 4>not seen a Nick Saban Alabama team get beaten like that,

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<v Speaker 4>And so it feels different because it's it's a kind

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<v Speaker 4>of vulnerability we've seen from them.

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<v Speaker 3>That we didn't think existed.

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<v Speaker 2>So strange.

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<v Speaker 4>But that said, Clemson's the only team capable of exposing

1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:48.640
<v Speaker 4>that vulnerability. There's nobody in the SEC capable of it,

1:06:48.760 --> 1:06:50.520
<v Speaker 4>because if Georgia was capable of it, would.

1:06:50.360 --> 1:06:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Have done it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody has that combination of quarterback and continuity and talent

1:06:54.440 --> 1:06:58.280
<v Speaker 2>level and culture to to go into a game like

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<v Speaker 2>that that fearlessly.

1:07:00.000 --> 1:07:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Georgia could could for sure, could you know, maybe maybe

1:07:04.040 --> 1:07:08.200
<v Speaker 4>December twenty nineteen or December twenty twenty. George is at

1:07:08.240 --> 1:07:11.480
<v Speaker 4>that point, but nobody's there yet in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible that we are in a time where there

1:07:15.200 --> 1:07:19.880
<v Speaker 2>are at least right now, two teams nationally that have

1:07:20.040 --> 1:07:23.640
<v Speaker 2>gotten this close to Alabama. There's always been like that one,

1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:26.000
<v Speaker 2>or like the old Miss offense this year, or a

1:07:26.120 --> 1:07:30.360
<v Speaker 2>freak South Carolina year, but there's never been the infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me that there are those two teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are basically, if not on Alabama's level.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and so that's good for college football. Yes, that

1:07:41.600 --> 1:07:44.200
<v Speaker 4>there are those teams, and it will make things interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just it makes Anick Sapements job a little bit harder.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing is they still have to They still

1:07:49.080 --> 1:07:52.080
<v Speaker 4>have all those receivers, they've still recruited. Well, there will

1:07:52.080 --> 1:07:54.640
<v Speaker 4>be a Quinn Williams type who you don't know about,

1:07:55.160 --> 1:07:57.200
<v Speaker 4>who only the recruit Nicks know about, who will be

1:07:57.240 --> 1:08:01.880
<v Speaker 4>a household name come October. They're going to rense and

1:08:01.920 --> 1:08:03.520
<v Speaker 4>repeat and they're still going to be really good.

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<v Speaker 2>If there is an internal downfall, because I know you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see it coming right now. Is it only Nick

1:08:09.720 --> 1:08:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Saban retiring or is there any Is it Scott Cochrane leaving?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything internal that.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Cochrane leaving would be a huge thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I've I've strained the conditioning, make sure the coordinators. Yeah,

1:08:21.520 --> 1:08:25.519
<v Speaker 4>that he's more important than either coordinator. And it's funny,

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<v Speaker 4>he's not even the highest paced strength coach in America.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, who guy at Iowa is the highest Okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean it's I think he is the second most important

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<v Speaker 4>person in that organization behind Nick Saban. And when they

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<v Speaker 4>kept him away from Georgia, they kept themselves atop the

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<v Speaker 4>SEC a little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it's amazing that kind of impact. But it makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense because he has so much FaceTime. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>good cop, and he has so much FaceTime with the

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<v Speaker 2>team all year long.

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<v Speaker 3>He right, he interacts with the players more than any

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<v Speaker 3>other coach. He is the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know you you don't have him, then you

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<v Speaker 4>don't does the message Saban wants to get across? Get

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<v Speaker 4>across because Saban's big thing is messaging. It's it's all

1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:12.040
<v Speaker 4>about you know. Here's what I need them to understand

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<v Speaker 4>this this week, and it's not just game weeks, it's

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<v Speaker 4>this random week in January. Here's what I needed to understand.

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<v Speaker 4>Scott Cochran is the guy who makes sure that message

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<v Speaker 4>g's through.

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<v Speaker 2>Incredible. Yeah, Final team Tennessee our headliner for all the

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<v Speaker 2>goodwill of beating a good Kentucky team and a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good Auburn team on the road. They finished two and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the two Power Five wins of the year

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<v Speaker 2>for Tennessee. So outside of the UH the South Carolina collapse,

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of them were uncompetitive losses. The good news

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<v Speaker 2>is recruiting transfers, returning guys. Jim Cheney, I guess what

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<v Speaker 2>is the case for Tennessee colin consistently improving Bowl team.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's probably the right the right tack to

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<v Speaker 4>take is consistent improving Bowl team, not sec East Challenger

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<v Speaker 4>not there yet, and it's going to take him a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit. But the Cheney hire, I think is a

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<v Speaker 4>good one. You know, you look at when he was

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<v Speaker 4>there before, what he did with Kiffin, and he turned

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<v Speaker 4>Jonathan Crompton into a into a guy who got drafted.

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't I still have my doubts that that

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<v Speaker 2>actually happened. Insane it happened. I promise there's YouTube clips

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<v Speaker 2>of it. There's proof, those receipts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>So I do think that's a really good hire because

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<v Speaker 4>Cheney seems to have the temperament to work, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with those And look, Cheney just worked with Kirby Smart

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<v Speaker 4>for a few years. You know, he can work with

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<v Speaker 4>Jeremy Prewett. They're similar guys, you know, the similarly demanding.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't think that's going to be an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, they don't have bad players. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think Jeremy Prewett is a is the type of recruiter

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<v Speaker 4>who understands what he needs, understands you know. The question

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<v Speaker 4>with Jeremy Prewett is knowing he can get the same

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<v Speaker 4>kind of guys at Alabama and Georgia can always get.

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<v Speaker 4>How does he kind of reevaluate recruits, How does he

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<v Speaker 4>how does he decide who's a take and who's not,

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<v Speaker 4>Because you're not going to get your ideal wish list

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<v Speaker 4>every time like you did when you're in Alabama. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's really more of a test of him as a recruiter.

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<v Speaker 4>But my guess, just given his history, is that you

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<v Speaker 4>because he's he's so he's never stopped recruiting the same

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<v Speaker 4>high schools. If you think about it, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 4>gone from Alabama to Florida State, to Georgia to Alabama

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<v Speaker 4>to Tennessee. He's still recruiting all the same high schools

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<v Speaker 4>and in Georgia and Tennessee and Alabama and Florida that

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<v Speaker 4>he always did. So he's got a good network and

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<v Speaker 4>a good understanding, you know, going back to when these

1:11:49.840 --> 1:11:51.800
<v Speaker 4>players were in eighth grade of what they can and

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<v Speaker 4>can't do. So I think I think that's that bodes

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<v Speaker 4>well for Tennessee that he's going to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>stock the roster the way it needs to be stocked.

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<v Speaker 4>Then it's just a matter of them putting it together

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<v Speaker 4>on the field. I mean, I thought this team was

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<v Speaker 4>wildly inconsistent last year. I mean, that's that's not really

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<v Speaker 4>a news flash. But you go from that Florida game

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<v Speaker 4>where everything that could have gone wrong went wrong, to

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the season where for the most part

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<v Speaker 4>it seemed like they had cohesive game plans that the

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<v Speaker 4>players didn't quit. I mean, I think, I think they're

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<v Speaker 4>on the right track. I just don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be easy because unfortunately for them, Kirby Smart is

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<v Speaker 4>building a monster at Georgia and Dan Mullen is doing

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<v Speaker 4>a good job at Florida and that is going to

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<v Speaker 4>make it where And then you've got Will must Champa

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<v Speaker 4>at South Carolina with the what we talked about earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>If they if they even perform up to expectations, they're

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<v Speaker 4>at least the level of Tennessee and probably better, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's March Stoops at Kentucky. So there's I

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<v Speaker 4>think there's some pretty good coaches in the East, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's that's the thing Tennessee is going to

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<v Speaker 4>run up against where it will take some time to

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<v Speaker 4>get them to where they're competitive at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds right. That is I'm really hoping for

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<v Speaker 2>the best because I've liked the best of Jerk Warrentano.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that the transfers coming in. There's some Aubrey

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon coming in.

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<v Speaker 3>His arm is off the show.

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<v Speaker 4>It's ridiculous, but it's you know, you gotta it can't

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<v Speaker 4>just be a great arm.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of other facts that involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I feel good about all of this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad we went through the fourteen teams the way that

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<v Speaker 2>we did. And here's my final question for you before

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<v Speaker 2>we let everybody go. We always seem to talk about food,

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<v Speaker 2>because of course we do. Give me something non food

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<v Speaker 2>that you've consumed, whether it's an album, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 2>TV show, whether it's a movie, whether it's a book

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<v Speaker 2>or a graphic novel or whatever that you can recommend

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<v Speaker 2>to people as an off season something.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll tell you what I saw the first episode

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<v Speaker 4>of Black Monday on Showtime.

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<v Speaker 3>That shows Okay, awesome, don day. It's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A period piece set in nineteen eighty seven. Oh that

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<v Speaker 4>the stock makes Yeah, Black Monday. The stock market crash

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<v Speaker 4>in eighty seven, and it's about how it happened. It's

1:14:06.479 --> 1:14:08.800
<v Speaker 4>a fictional story of how it happened, and it is.

1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:12.840
<v Speaker 4>It's a pure comedy. It is hysterical that they have

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<v Speaker 4>this guy playing the Lehman brothers. He plays both Lehman brothers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>get just hand in the Emmy now. But Cheetle's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, the first episode I was I was in

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<v Speaker 4>there's a great montage set to Don Henley's New York Minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's tremendous. Oh looks like it's seth Rogen as

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<v Speaker 2>the executive producer Don Chietel. Yeah, I'm totally Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna watch this very so. Yes, great recommendation.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody get on board. Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Staples, thank you very much for your time. If

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<v Speaker 2>people want to follow you, follow Andy on Twitter. On

1:14:43.800 --> 1:14:46.040
<v Speaker 2>s I read everything he writes. He writes a column,

1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:48.120
<v Speaker 2>a weekly column called punt Pass and Pork. What is

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<v Speaker 2>the single best way that if people want to consume

1:14:50.760 --> 1:14:54.679
<v Speaker 2>your wares you're on Sirius XM. What is the easiest way, Well,

1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:57.439
<v Speaker 2>just go to my Twitter feed, Andy underscore Staples and

1:14:57.520 --> 1:14:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I put most of that stuff there and of course

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<v Speaker 2>debscribed to series XM.

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<v Speaker 4>That just because I have a show on it, but

1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:07.360
<v Speaker 4>because there's all kinds of great music channels, Howard Stern,

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<v Speaker 4>great interviews. So it's the best thirteen dollars a month

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<v Speaker 4>you can spend.

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<v Speaker 2>Done, do it? Listen, you get Andy Staples and your

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<v Speaker 2>show is what three hours long.

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<v Speaker 4>One to four pm Eastern every day on Channel eighty four,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the channel devoted to college sports.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. And we don't just have one.

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<v Speaker 4>We have six channels devoted to college sports because mine

1:15:27.160 --> 1:15:29.000
<v Speaker 4>is the main college sports channel, but we also have

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<v Speaker 4>one devoted to each power conference.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true. And if you follow, if you already

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<v Speaker 2>follow Andy on Twitter, you know that when he starts

1:15:36.000 --> 1:15:39.519
<v Speaker 2>tweeting during our three of his show, it's basically just

1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:43.000
<v Speaker 2>like what was the best arranged dance from a movie

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty four? Oh, it goes to weird places.

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<v Speaker 4>And basically what that means is my co host, Jason

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<v Speaker 4>Horowitz has given me some idea about something and I

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<v Speaker 4>need to crowdsource it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, done, Okay, Andy, thank you very much for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow Andy everywhere he goes and we will speak soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay to and there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Staples Sports Illustrated Serious XAM, long time, long time,

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<v Speaker 1>best Bud of the podcast. What did you learn from

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him that you didn't know going into that interview,

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't know where to get tex mex in the Greater

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<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma City area. Okay, import Tara Tara Humera, Tara Tara Humara,

1:16:24.680 --> 1:16:27.720
<v Speaker 2>whatever I now know to go there, go to their

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to Andy and George Schroeder. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>the points that Andy made. I guess particularly like it.

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<v Speaker 2>AM very quick to say, Oh Georgia is there you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is there an opening where Georgia is losing coordinators and

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<v Speaker 2>all these transfers? What is you know? Do we have

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<v Speaker 2>faith that Kirby smart essentially is Nick Saban, that he

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<v Speaker 2>can weather anything thanks to his system and thanks to

1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:55.200
<v Speaker 2>so much talent. And I thought Andy did a good

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<v Speaker 2>job of pumping the brakes on any concern about Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>with the way that they finished their season, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just and fields and the Sugar Bowl everything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was that was probably pretty smart. I

1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:07.600
<v Speaker 2>liked his optimism about Miszoo. I thought that that was

1:17:07.640 --> 1:17:10.759
<v Speaker 2>pretty smart given that they are recruiting on a somewhat

1:17:10.840 --> 1:17:14.000
<v Speaker 2>respectable level. It's a top thirty thirty five class quarterback

1:17:14.000 --> 1:17:16.040
<v Speaker 2>play has been good and they're just very quietly in

1:17:16.080 --> 1:17:18.960
<v Speaker 2>that sec second tier. I thought that's I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>all correct. Texas A and M as a danger if

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<v Speaker 2>not for their schedule. I don't know if you've looked

1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:28.839
<v Speaker 2>ahead to texts A and M schedule in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It is late January, and if you have, I'm so sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have ty. It's not great really, So Texas

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<v Speaker 2>A and M in twenty nineteen they go to Clemson

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<v Speaker 2>week two. Oh boy, they have Auburn later on in

1:17:43.439 --> 1:17:47.320
<v Speaker 2>September neutral site against Arkansas, followed by Alabama, and then

1:17:47.520 --> 1:17:50.240
<v Speaker 2>they go to Ole Miss and then they finish out

1:17:50.280 --> 1:17:54.720
<v Speaker 2>the season though their November slash late October is Mississippi

1:17:54.720 --> 1:17:58.479
<v Speaker 2>State South Carolina as there the crossover game every year,

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<v Speaker 2>and they finished at Georgia at.

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<v Speaker 1>Ls That ain't easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, boy, season at Georgia at LSU at Clemson LAM

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<v Speaker 2>soon is is rocky? Tie? Okay, rocky?

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<v Speaker 1>If they go yeah, if they go with one loss

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<v Speaker 1>all year, that would be like they're the number two

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<v Speaker 1>team in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>With absolutely they absolutely are. And they recruited well enough

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<v Speaker 2>and they will continue to recruit well enough. Year two

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<v Speaker 2>of Mike Elco and even without Travon Williams, I thought

1:18:27.160 --> 1:18:30.040
<v Speaker 2>defensively they got better and better throughout the year save

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<v Speaker 2>for the LSU seven overtime game Texas. A and M

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<v Speaker 2>is quite interesting to me because they're the team that

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<v Speaker 2>has a potential ceiling to you know, they have a

1:18:40.400 --> 1:18:44.439
<v Speaker 2>lot higher to climb that outside of Alabama, there's the

1:18:44.600 --> 1:18:48.559
<v Speaker 2>obvious concern about Auburn and stability, obvious concerns about LSU

1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:55.320
<v Speaker 2>and generating offensive firepower consistently. But A and M feels

1:18:55.400 --> 1:18:58.840
<v Speaker 2>like that wild card in the West, and that it

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<v Speaker 2>made me a little more intrigued. I would say, given

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, they're recruiting super duper well once again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm intrigued by that. And then I think that Joe

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<v Speaker 2>moorehead once he has a forward pass thing, and that

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<v Speaker 2>the Keyton Thompson hope is interesting to me about Mississippi State,

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<v Speaker 2>that they are another one of those teams that if

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<v Speaker 2>they have a winning record in conference, they could be

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<v Speaker 2>winning nine ten games. That's interesting to me. Yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the optimism abut Mississippi State and A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, well, Daniel, with all that being said, please

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<v Speaker 1>staid at the top of the show, please do leave

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<v Speaker 2>All that stuff helps.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be around all off season, though only once

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<v Speaker 1>a week now that we've got less college football stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. So here's what we're gonna do next week,

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<v Speaker 1>because we haven't in a while and because there is

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<v Speaker 1>ever demand for it. Big Q and A Show coming

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<v Speaker 1>next Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, might even be a two parter. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna stretch this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Q and A Show coming. We've also got a

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<v Speaker 1>fun show planned some point in the next couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks where we're gonna look at like the nineteen most

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<v Speaker 1>important transactions or I guess, yeah, of the young off

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<v Speaker 1>season so far. Yes, And I guess can college football

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<v Speaker 1>season at large?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we do for that show? This is what I

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<v Speaker 2>want to start doing occasionally, and this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>how we'll know about you know, after the Marvel movies

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, after the credits, there's a small little

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<v Speaker 2>teaser scene of some kind. Yeah, I want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it'll be on that transaction show. Maybe it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>on the Q and A show. And by me saying

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<v Speaker 2>it'll happen sort of ruins the easter egg quality to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the transaction show, there is an asterisk to the

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<v Speaker 2>show that I want to mention and I almost want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. This is so ridiculous to I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to call it. I don't I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to call it. Can we do an after show for

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<v Speaker 2>our own show on the same show that's very metadan

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<v Speaker 2>but we could try to do like isn't isn't there

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<v Speaker 2>like like Talking Dead like on AMC after The Walking

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<v Speaker 2>Dead where Chris Hardwick sits down and says, like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what did we think about episode? That was crazy? Isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that a thing we could do that they did like

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<v Speaker 2>they did that with Breaking Bad? So I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think we do a postgame show on our own show

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<v Speaker 2>after the show is over on the same shown.

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<v Speaker 1>A week to figure out how to do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we can y.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think you're still trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out When I try to say, do we want the

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<v Speaker 2>playoff to be a postseason versus a championship finder. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah that's all.

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