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Speaker 2: I'm that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for Dake Edith State.

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Speaker 1: Is that whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the solid Burble boys and girls. My name is

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Speaker 1: ty Hildenbrandt, joining me as always over there in blustery,

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Speaker 1: apocalyptically cold New York City. My man Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? Is it super cold in Allentown in eastern PA?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Dude? Did you get that the squall? A few men, God,

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Speaker 2: we got the squall?

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Speaker 1: They were talking about the squall like it was the

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Speaker 1: Second Coming, and it blew through here between twelve and two.

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Speaker 2: As expect Wallen Brown did. Yeah, yeah, man, it.

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Speaker 1: Was something else. One one second it was fine, the

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Speaker 1: next it was a whiteout outside crazy.

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Speaker 2: I first of all, if you are listening to this,

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Speaker 2: we're recording this when's day evening? That would stay the

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Speaker 2: thirtieth thirtieth of January thirtieth if you are anywhere in

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Speaker 2: the upper Midwest, so say Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: What about Fargo?

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Speaker 2: Fargo, the capital of college football championships. If you are

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Speaker 2: in the Upper Midwest Upper Plains area, we hope there

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Speaker 2: are multiple ear muffs on top of whatever you are

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Speaker 2: listening to us on right this very moment, and you

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Speaker 2: are doing everything you can to stay warm, and nobody

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Speaker 2: wants to be a frostbite. Hero Ty, don't let anybody

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Speaker 2: be a frostbite. Here.

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Speaker 1: I sent you a link that I saw frost quake

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Speaker 1: people in Yeah, people in Chicago were hearing booms and

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Speaker 1: it was due to something called a frost quake.

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Speaker 2: So if you are Clayton Thorson listening to this show,

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Speaker 2: get get saved from the frost wakes. No clue. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's sort of like that with thunder snow. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's been my favorite combination of weather terms that we've

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Well, welcome back in Dan. It's good to talk

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Speaker 1: can get in touch with us if you so desire. Today, Dan,

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Speaker 1: today we're going to be talking a little sec and

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Speaker 1: by we I mean you, because you were the one

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Speaker 1: who recorded this show with our friend Andy Staples from

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sands, Sirius XIM does a great job. Jason Horwitz there,

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Speaker 2: I think it's College Sports Nation. I want to get

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Speaker 2: that correct because you know how much we do treasure

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Speaker 2: serious football content. Of course, yes, recorded with Andy already.

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Speaker 2: That's coming up here just shortly. But here is something

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Speaker 2: that I want to talk about real, not quick, but

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Speaker 2: medium quick. So I would say we've each had not

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Speaker 2: significant significant, two medium significant medical experiences. Recently. You won

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Speaker 2: the toss. So you are going to I talked about

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Speaker 2: your I guess it's mouth drama ahead of the ACC

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Speaker 2: show I did with Chip Patterson from CBS last week,

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Speaker 2: and that you had mouth trauma that needed to be

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Speaker 2: is what ended up happening. If that gives you any idea,

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Speaker 2: because this is your instrument. Sure, this is your connection

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Speaker 2: No, I would have listened to this show entirely with

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Speaker 1: Like that, Yeah, it had interesting results, and therefore the

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Speaker 1: It seems as if the procedure worked, it's not fully

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Speaker 2: Can we do a quick exercise before we get to

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Speaker 2: Andy where we're doing a sort of autopsy, taking what

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Speaker 2: I guess the future of these programs, these fourteen programs. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Will you pull up the SEC standings, I'll get you

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Speaker 2: will probably say LSU's offensive attempts, especially inside the forty

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Speaker 1: For Kentucky, that Tennessee loss.

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Speaker 1: They lost Tennessee and apparently some Kentucky fans out there

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I would also say maybe the overtimes, by

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Speaker 1: Auburn the whole season was kind of a root canal.

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Speaker 2: Unto itself. Yeah, I would say for A and M

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Speaker 2: But again n C State full switch and spit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a wonderful Swiss and spit. I'm glad you brought that

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Speaker 1: What about Florida? Florida is an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: Felipe the Frank's throwing into the Georgia secondary.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're going very specific, yes with your example, I.

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Speaker 2: Think Michigan Swish and spit.

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Speaker 1: I think you almost have to with Florida because new coach.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a pretty good season for Florida. Oh,

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Speaker 1: feeling pretty good. I think initially the loss to Kentucky

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Speaker 1: one ten games, so it wasn't all that bad of

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Speaker 2: No, in retrospect, a totally understandable loss to a very

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Speaker 2: good Kentucky team, for sure.

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Speaker 2: The end of Missoo's game against Kentucky if we're sticking

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Speaker 2: with the Wildcat, where Missoo definitely should have won.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Aside from thattional championship? If we're just going to stick

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Speaker 2: the Georgia game, the SEC Championship game. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: painful to watch Tua hobbling around, getting hit, getting blitzes,

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Speaker 2: not get picked up, throwing interceptions, right, first half of that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the thing with Alabama, if we're trying to

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Speaker 1: compare it to dental work, is it's never serious dental

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Speaker 1: work where you actually need novacaine. Right, Like all of

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Speaker 1: their problems end up being cosmetic. Lose like ten assistant

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Speaker 1: coaches doesn't matter. Have a quarterback who's hurt for pretty

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Speaker 1: much the entire second half of the year doesn't matter. Right,

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Speaker 1: You're really splitting hairs if you're trying to find things

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Speaker 1: that Alabama fans are going to treat as root canal.

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Speaker 2: Georgia special teams play calling is both the root canal

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Speaker 2: for Georgia and the swish and spit for Alabama. That's right,

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Speaker 2: So thanks for that call.

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Speaker 1: Swish and spit could be our new thing.

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Speaker 2: Who are we missing? Ole Miss? Mississippi State? Ole Miss

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Speaker 2: Enjoy the interview, all right, I don't make promises I

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Speaker 2: And because honestly, you know what this episode is about.

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Speaker 2: What is your source to figure out where to eat where?

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Speaker 4: Usually I call someone local, Okay, I call someone who

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Speaker 3: You don't want them overrunning your favorite place?

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Speaker 4: And that's how you find Archibald's Ribs in Northport, Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Find Tara Jumaras in Norman, which is the best just

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Speaker 2: That's a blind spot of mine, because I'm a big

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Speaker 3: Blind spot for me too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my thing for years was it's meat and beans

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Speaker 2: What I think it is is a sort of some

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Speaker 4: But the other thing they do is so when you

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Speaker 3: It's a little a little bit out but not far.

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Speaker 4: Apparently at the text mes places in town, keeso is included.

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Speaker 4: So people who aren't from around there are just looking

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Speaker 3: What is this witchcraft?

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Speaker 4: And then people from there go to a Mexican place

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Speaker 2: You've grown accustomed to a certain way of life getting

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Speaker 2: By the way, I won't claim to be an expert

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Speaker 2: Do you know what an Oklahoma style burger is?

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Speaker 2: The onion burger they fry the meat with onions smacked

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Speaker 4: I don't like this when it's everybody's favorite thing and

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Speaker 2: I like that we've spent a solid five minutes talking

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Speaker 3: The SEC tried to get Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: That's true. They tried really hard, that's true. And I

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Speaker 2: Irrational Hatred about the history of the SEC and.

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Speaker 4: It will football in the SEC. Yes, exactly, it will do.

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Speaker 4: It would be a great title for an SEC football book.

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Speaker 2: Write it down, put it in if you're if you're

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Speaker 2: Let's start here. I have a list of fourteen SEC

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about ed Orzron, let's talk about Kirby. You,

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Speaker 2: this is on you. This is the game show thing

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Speaker 4: You really did miss your calling. I feel like if

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Speaker 3: So all right, let's let's do this. Let's okay, let's

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Number seven, number seven. We go to

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Speaker 2: A weird but fun and interesting year. I would say

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Speaker 2: it appears Inssissippi State is in a pretty good place.

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Speaker 3: What it overcame.

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Speaker 4: Was Joe Morehead realizing, Hey, all these other places I've been,

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Speaker 4: But listen, they have a quarterback. You know, Keton Thompson

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00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 4: is going to be the quarterback. I would argue that

438
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 4: he may what Joe moore Head wants better than Nick

439
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 4: Fitzgerald did. So I think that is going to be

440
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 4: a very good thing for them. You know, as far

441
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: as defensive line goes, yeah, they lost some special guys

442
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 4: but Mississippi State has always been able to find those guys.

443
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 4: I mean, there are really good defensive linemen in the

444
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: state of Mississippi, either in high schools or in the Jucos.

445
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 4: You should be able to have a good defensive line

446
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 4: a Mississippi State without a lot of you know, not

447
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 4: really going too far out out of your normal recruiting area.

448
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 4: So I think that one should maybe not be as

449
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 4: good as it was because those you know, Jeffrey Simmons

450
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 4: and Montes but are really special guys. But they should

451
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 4: have enough you know back there that you know they'll

452
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: be all right on defense. And I think the offense

453
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 4: should be pretty good. I mean Kylin Hill running the

454
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: ball and Thompson throwing it. I'll take that. I'll take

455
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 4: that next year.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with there being a big concern about and

457
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: Joe Moorehead's not from the South. I think all of

458
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: those questions were pretty were answered pretty emphatically, pretty quickly.

459
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then not from the South. Thing, Like, Joe

460
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 4: Moorehead's a very personable guy. He's the type of person

461
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 4: that can connect with people from anywhere. I don't worry

462
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 4: about him not being from the South. I think that's overblown.

463
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 4: You either are a.

464
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: Person who can recruit or you're not.

465
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 4: And that's more of a personality trait than a regional thing.

466
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: Fair, give me a number one in fourteen thirteen thirteen.

467
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: All right, we're going to Auburn. We're really going for it.

468
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: I like this. Wow, Auburn is a team that I

469
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: think we can all agree not super stable as a program.

470
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: As soon as things look good, things go bad. Talking

471
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: about it is Quicksand so last year starts pretty well

472
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 2: with the winover Washington, they look okay, bad loss, I

473
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: mean a heartbreaking loss to to who do they lose

474
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: to LSU? Early on they look pretty terrible against Tennessee

475
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: and just sort of dicey, but then finished season super

476
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: well in the Bowl. So if ten is unbelievably stable

477
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: and one is Auburn, where is Auburn today? In late January?

478
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

479
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 4: We're going to pick Auburn to finish like fourth in

480
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: the West next year and they're gonna win eleven games. Yeah,

481
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 4: of course, because that's what happens. When we picked them

482
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 4: to have a bad season, they have a great season.

483
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 4: When we picked them to have a great season, they

484
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: have a terrible season. And contemplate paying, you know, thirty

485
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 4: two million dollar buyouts.

486
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: I just I don't know why.

487
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 4: And I realized they're going to get a bowl, the

488
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 4: Bowl bump of all bull bumps from what they did

489
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 4: against Purdue. But I think that was more of a

490
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: Catharsis for the guys that we're leaving of. Hey, this

491
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 4: season didn't go the way we wanted to. Can we

492
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 4: please go out in style? And we please just you know,

493
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 4: make this better. But you know, Gus Milson calling plays,

494
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: I guess I never understood why he stopped, Yeah, because

495
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 4: isn't that the thing he was really good at?

496
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: MMM?

497
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 4: So why not continue doing it? And him calling plays

498
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 4: in the ball game certainly worked out well, and that's

499
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 4: great and probably made some people mad, like why why

500
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 4: why was there this conflict all season when if you

501
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 4: could have done this, why didn't you just do this?

502
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know how that's gonna work. But yeah,

503
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: they've just got to figure out what they're going to

504
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: do at quarterback. And the fact that they've they've not

505
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: been particularly active on the transfer market leads me to

506
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 4: believe that they feel like they got somebody and maybe

507
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 4: that's Bo Nicks, that's the incoming freshman. Maybe maybe they

508
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: like him, but they had opportunities. They could have gotten

509
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: Austin Kendall when he was coming from Oklahoma. So I

510
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 4: think that tells me they like what they have coming in. Now,

511
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: we'll just have to see if it pans out, because

512
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 4: you know, quarterbacks who signed with gus out of high

513
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 4: school have not done particularly well.

514
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: They've done better with transfers.

515
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: And cornerbacks who become quarterbacks. Yeah right, Okay.

516
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 4: If there was a corner that they could move to quarterback, yes,

517
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 4: a corner at some other school that they could move

518
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 4: to quarterback, that would be fantastic.

519
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: But that smells on ideal.

520
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, But look from a talent standpoint, Auburn looks like

521
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 4: when they get off the bus, they look like LSU,

522
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: and they look like Alabama, and they look like Georgia.

523
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: So I don't think they're that far away from being good.

524
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 4: And this is what happens with Auburn. That's why you know,

525
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: every couple of years they flip a switch and suddenly

526
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 4: they're great because they have good players, right, it's just

527
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 4: a matter of getting the chemistry right. So I think,

528
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe they do get the chemistry right,

529
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 4: maybe having a very clear organizational chart on offense will

530
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: help them more, because that seemed I think that's a

531
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: problem for the last couple of years.

532
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're scheduled this past year down the stretch

533
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: going to Bama brutal. It's so brutal, so it can

534
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: only improve. I know they open with uh, well, I

535
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: think it's Oregon next year, but down the stretch they

536
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: have Georgia and Bama both on the planes.

537
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 4: And I'd rather open with the organ than play organ

538
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: in November next year because I think I think by

539
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: October November, Oregon's going to be really.

540
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: Really tough to be I hope. So I agree. Give

541
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: me a number, all right, let's go to number three.

542
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: Number three is LSU, who you just mentioned. I think

543
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: this is my prerogative. I think it'd be dumb to

544
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 2: call a nine to three regular LSU season with an

545
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: inexperienced transfer quarterback, a sort of new offensive coordinator, wins

546
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: over Auburn and Georgia and o'll miss mind you and

547
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: a new year six win anything short of a good year.

548
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: But if the clear formula for winning the SEC West,

549
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: aside from talent and defense, is being able to stress

550
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Alabama vertically is LSU Are they self imposing a ceiling?

551
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

552
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 4: Okay, I think their bigger problem against Alabama was in

553
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: the trenches last year. They just they just got whipped

554
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: up front. And I think they're going to be better.

555
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 4: And you're you've got, you know, now, three years of

556
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: ed Oorgron recruiting basically because he was the recruiting coordinator

557
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: for Miles that last year.

558
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: So you've got three years of.

559
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 4: Him recruiting lineman, be they offensive, war defensive, you know what,

560
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: he knows what he's looking for.

561
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 3: I do think they're going to be better up front,

562
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: which they need.

563
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: And and you know, in terms of guys coming back,

564
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: I thought they came out fairly well on that.

565
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: Normally LSU does not. Normally LSU loses.

566
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: Everybody that they could possibly lose, and so like getting

567
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: Fijoko back, that's a big deal. Yeah, that's a that's

568
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 4: a big presence in the middle of your defensive line

569
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 4: that you don't just replace very easily. So I think

570
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: I think they're going to be pretty good next year.

571
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: Now here's here's the problem. Their schedule is always brutal

572
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: and they still play in the West you know, we

573
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: think Auburn's gonna be better, although Auburn has to go

574
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: to them, but they've got to go to LSU's got

575
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: to go to Tuscalousa, you know, Florida we think is

576
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit better. And they were pretty

577
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: good this year and they're coming to Baton Rouge. So yeah,

578
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: it's it's gonna be tough, but it's always gonna be

579
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: tough if you're LSU.

580
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: I think they go to Texas, right, Jak Texas is

581
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: week two? Yeah? And DK yeah.

582
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: Yes, So I mean, listen, they've they've got what they

583
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 4: need now to be a very good team. I don't

584
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: know if they have the roster to beat Alabama yet.

585
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if they're there yet, but it feels

586
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: like they're getting closer.

587
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: I think that's reasonable. I still want, like the the

588
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow thing, Like I feel like he is probably

589
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: the best okay quarterback in the country, and I just

590
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: want a little bit more because there's so much speed

591
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: and there's usually so much talent.

592
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 4: You may get a little bit more because remember Joe Burrow, true,

593
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: where did Joe Burrow has practice last year in Columbus?

594
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 4: So you know, he's got a full offseason this year

595
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: to really get to know those receivers and he's not

596
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: getting thrown into this. So I think they're gonna be fine.

597
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

598
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: Because of the schedule.

599
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm not sure the record is going to be appreciably different, right,

600
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: but they you.

601
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: Know, And that'll be the thing.

602
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: There'll be pressure on Ozron at some point if they

603
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 4: don't take that next step of winning that game they're

604
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: not necessarily supposed to win, and that would be the

605
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: Alabama game probably, So they've got to break through at

606
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: some point.

607
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: But then that's sort.

608
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: Of the the ballot of everybody in the SEC West.

609
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 4: Eventually you have to break through and beat Alabama, and

610
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: of those teams, only Auburn's been able to do it.

611
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: And we're also talking about an LSU team that was

612
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: like an eleven hour game away from being ten and two. Exactly.

613
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 4: We should not downplay that either, because remember this is

614
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 4: the team that people were saying, Oh, they're going to

615
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: be five and seven and Oordron's gonna get fired. No, no, no,

616
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: Oorgron's a good Yeah, for sure, that is a good program.

617
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: They are in the right direction. They just now need

618
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: to begin competing for SEC and national titles, which is

619
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: the hardest step to take.

620
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: So good luck with that.

621
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Okay, good luck, give me a number between one and

622
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: fourteen that you haven't yet. Eight oh eight. We're going.

623
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: This is the earliest anybody will ever talk about the

624
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt Commodores, and I think that I think that's wonderful

625
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: because the Doors they kind of quietly had a totally

626
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: fine year. Kyle Shermer one of the best, what five

627
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: six quarterbacks in the conference? Keishon Vaughn was a wrecking ball.

628
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 2: And I hate questions like this, I promise you I do.

629
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: But maybe there's something on the bone. Is having and

630
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: blowing late leads to Kentucky, Notre Dame, Miszoo, and I

631
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: think Florida all were like blown leads indicative of anything.

632
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: Here's the problem.

633
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 4: This was your year with the senior quarterback and the

634
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: basically fourth year starter. Yeah, so now you're it's if

635
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: you're Alabama or Auburn or LSU or Georgia or one

636
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: of those programs and you lost a significant amount of

637
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 4: leadership or experience, you can still grow on that. The

638
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: problem is when you're a Vandy, when you're an Arkansas.

639
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: When you're a Missouri something like that, you're you're probably

640
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: going to take a step back just because the roster

641
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: can only be as good as that every couple of years.

642
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure how much you can build on

643
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: that if you're Vanny Now. Getting Vaughn back is big. Yes,

644
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: the dude averaged seven point nine yards of carry and

645
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: he was he was incredible in that Bowl game. So

646
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: I think that's that's a big deal they have. You know,

647
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: they have some good pieces, but it's going to feel

648
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: like starting all over again because you're you're starting all

649
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: over again at quarterback.

650
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, got to make it count with those senior classes

651
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: in the way that like Kentucky Kentucky.

652
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean that that's the thing. They

653
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: they sort of provided the model for how you're supposed

654
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 4: to have one of those seasons, and you know, you've

655
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: got to you've got to strike when you have that

656
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: kind of experience. That's that's the hard part. I mean,

657
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: And look, it's Vanderbilt. It's the toughest job in the league.

658
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: Nobody nobody's expecting them to win the East, nobody's expecting

659
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 4: them to win national championships. It's not like the other jobs.

660
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: You know, it's just hey, can you be kind of

661
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 4: good every once in a while? And they were all right,

662
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: and maybe they can be all right again.

663
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go to Kentucky just because you

664
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: mentioned it. Yeah, yeah, Is Kentucky in a better place?

665
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: And I assume the answer is yes than Vanderbilt, just

666
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: because of what Mark Stoops has been able to do

667
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail. But I don't want to ask

668
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: if it's repeatable twenty eighteen, because that's that's a tough ask.

669
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: But in terms of infrastructure and laying a foundation, are

670
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: they at least in a point where at a point

671
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: where an eight win goal is not crazy year in

672
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: and year out.

673
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: That's not crazy. Okay, You go any higher than that

674
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: and you are crazy.

675
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

676
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: That's my thing is I don't want Kentucky fans to

677
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: start using this past season as a weapon against Mark Stoops,

678
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: because that happens sometimes with fan base, is when when

679
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 4: you have a team sort of outperform expectations and then

680
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: they start saying, well, why can't you do that every year?

681
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: You can't do that every year because you're Kentucky. You're

682
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: not going to do that every year. You're not going

683
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: to have that specialist season every year. This is the

684
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: sort of thing that you have to cycle up to.

685
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: And listen, they had a roster with a great running

686
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: back in Benny Snell, a great offensive line, and that's

687
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: the sort of thing you have to build to.

688
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: That offensive line. Doesn't they don't.

689
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 4: Show up, you know, just Hey, we're gonna throw all

690
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 4: these guys in as starters together and they're going to

691
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: be great.

692
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way.

693
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 4: It doesn't even work that way at Alabama or Georgia's,

694
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 4: so it certainly isn't gonna work that way at Kentucky.

695
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 4: You know, that took years to put together. It's going

696
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: to take, you know, another couple of years to cycle

697
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: up to another type of team like this. It also

698
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: helps to have a Josh Allen that that everybody kind

699
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 4: of missed on on defense who just rex opposing offenses.

700
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: But that's that's the deal. These are good recruiters.

701
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: They understand what it takes to build a good roster.

702
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 4: But because it's Kentucky and because nobody's perfect, you're not

703
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 4: going to be able to have that kind of roster

704
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: every season. As good at recruiters as this bunch is,

705
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: that's asking too much. So if they are a team

706
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: that is that that is seven or eight regular season

707
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: wins and then a bowl game every year, you should

708
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: be very happy with that. That that's a good place

709
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: for Kentucky to be. And then every once in a

710
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: while you have a season like this where you can

711
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 4: win double digit games.

712
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: And you know, I think I think.

713
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 4: They they sort of showed you the model. Now it's

714
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: up to the fan base to understand that that is

715
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: the model. That is every years. It's not every year.

716
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: So don't don't kill those guys if they go seven

717
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 4: and five this year.

718
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: Correct, And I will say they did a really good

719
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: job of taking advantage. And this is something we mentioned

720
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: with Vanderbilt of that year, with Florida with a new coach.

721
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: With Tennessee with a new coach with a weird South

722
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: Carolina year, they will.

723
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: Didn't really take advantage of Tennessee.

724
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: They did, they did not. Excuse me, you're right, but

725
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: in terms of okay, we have a bunch of seniors

726
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 2: and we are not in the strongest SEC East. Ever,

727
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: it was it was a great time to take advantage.

728
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 4: Right, And that's the thing look that the East is

729
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: gonna get harder. George's George is going to be better

730
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 4: than it was this year. Tennessee should be better than

731
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: it was, Florida will be better than it was. And

732
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 4: so they're gonna be losses where you had wins, you know,

733
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: in a couple spots. But that doesn't mean you can't

734
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 4: be an above average team and then build to another

735
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: great season.

736
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: It's doable.

737
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: I think this is a really good model that they've

738
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: set forth, and they seem to be pretty patient with

739
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: Mark Stoops, which I like. Mitch Barnhardt is an ad

740
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: I mean, he's been around the block a lot of times,

741
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: so he's not going to be one of those crazy

742
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: Hey you.

743
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: Know, you didn't win eleven games this year. Year gone.

744
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: That's not going to be his style.

745
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: So that's the good news for Kentucky is they're going

746
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: to be managed properly. And listen, this staff's good. They

747
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: seem to be doing the things that make them want

748
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: to stay. Enjoy it, Kentucky fans, enjoy it.

749
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: Give me a number two. All right, we're going to Georgia.

750
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: If my calculations I'm not very good at math, are correct.

751
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: So the end of their year, losing a winnable Bama

752
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: SEC championship, losing justin fields, looking pretty outmatched in the

753
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: Sugar Bowl by the Big twelve runner up, losing both

754
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: coordinators for somewhat reasonable reasons, and now that they're measuring

755
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: themselves very clearly against Alabama, what is the big reason

756
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: to believe in Herbie three point zero.

757
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: That they've been right there each of the last two

758
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: years And they shouldn't given what they lost from from

759
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen, should not have been right

760
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 4: there this past year, but they were. And now the

761
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 4: coaching staff has to avoid some of the in game

762
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: mistakes it made against Alabama because I think, as in

763
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 4: terms of off the field, recruiting, culture, program, all that

764
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: other stuff, they're doing what they need to do. Now

765
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: they just need to figure out how to beat them

766
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 4: on the field. And you know one way to do

767
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: that is when your starting quarterback is having the game

768
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 4: of his life, don't take him out twice in the

769
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 4: same series to put in the guy who you're praying

770
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: won't transfer.

771
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 3: If it's if he's going to transfer over that let him.

772
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: It'll be okay because you already have a quarterback who

773
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: took you to a national title game and had you

774
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 4: up on Alabama.

775
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 3: In the SEC Championship game.

776
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: Maybe ride him, you know, I realize that's not the

777
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: popular thing that you know, he doesn't look like Justin

778
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 4: Fields and doesn't you know, have the same athletic ability

779
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 4: as Justin Fields. He's not as tall, he's not as big.

780
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: But guess what, Jake fromm wins. And there's a lot

781
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: of programs out there that can't seem to find any

782
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: quarterbacks who can win. So you've got one enjoy it now.

783
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 4: They've just got to figure out how to how to

784
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 4: get over that hump against Alabama.

785
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: They're gonna do it. I know everybody's like, oh, Kirby

786
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: showed it.

787
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: You know, he just can't hang with Nick Saban on

788
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 4: game day as a game day coach. No, no, no,

789
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: he will break through. They're doing too many of the

790
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 4: right things to not break through. And I think this

791
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: team is going to be better next year than it

792
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: was this year. I just that offensive line is going

793
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 4: to be fantastic. I know they lost a bunch of players,

794
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: you know, obviously for Isaac Nada, and.

795
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: You look at what the NFL is doing offensively, you

796
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 3: have to go.

797
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: But like Elijah Holyfield, I think that's a case of

798
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: looking at the depth chart, looking at Zamir White, maybe

799
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: coming back healthy and going I don't know that I'm

800
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: gonna have as big of a role next year, so

801
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 4: maybe maybe.

802
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: I'll go to the NFL.

803
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 4: They've got some players on this team, and I think

804
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: they're gonna be able to block really well. The D

805
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: line will be older and more experienced, which was a

806
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: big issue last year. They never really found a replacement

807
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: for John Atkins. They're always gonna be able to find corners,

808
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 4: They're always gonna be able to find pass rushers. That

809
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: they live in the best recruiting area in the country.

810
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 4: They really do. I mean, players from Georgia are athletic,

811
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: they're well coached in high school. You have pretty much

812
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: everything you want. It's just a matter of getting them.

813
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: They've been getting them. So now they have to beat

814
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: Alabama on the field, and the tricky part of that

815
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: is they have to they have to win enough games

816
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: to get to Alabama. They're gonna have to to beat

817
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: Florida again. They're gonna have to They get Texas A

818
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: and M next year, so they're going to have to

819
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 4: deal with those teams. But if they can do that

820
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 4: and get another game with Alabama, they have been right there.

821
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: They just have to get over the hump, and I

822
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 4: think they can do it.

823
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 3: You keep playing.

824
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 4: Them dead, even for fifty eight minutes or fifty nine

825
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: minutes or in one case, like sixty three minutes, you're

826
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 4: going to beat them eventually.

827
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: In a weird way. I think the Justin Fields thing

828
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: and the way he was used and the way he

829
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: was brought in sort of nonsensically at times. I almost

830
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: think that is going to be the thing that cements

831
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: the sort of ruthlessness gene In Kirby that he's never

832
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: going to play anymore. He's always going to play the

833
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: best player, no matter what.

834
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: Right you have to be ruthless, especially as you pick

835
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 4: a quarterback. And one of the interesting conversations I had

836
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: during this season was some of the Ohio State beat writers.

837
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 4: This is right after Meyer had retired. I think they said,

838
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 4: you know why, what was the difference between Meyer and Saban?

839
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 4: And I said, the difference between Meyer and Saban is

840
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: that Saban would have started Dwayne Haskins over JT.

841
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 3: Barrett. JT. Barrett Senior year. Yeah, that's the difference. No.

842
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: I think if you look across college football, the guys

843
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: who have really established themselves as the consistent double digit winners,

844
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: it's understanding. You're gonna hurt feelings no matter if it's

845
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: a freshman or a senior.

846
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: Well, and Meyer was a consistent double digit winner.

847
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: He just kind of did it his own way, right,

848
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 4: And one of those things was when he found a

849
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: guy he really liked, a quarterback, he was not moving

850
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: off him.

851
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: Give me a number, all right, let's do number five.

852
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: Number five is South Carolina your home state. If I'm

853
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: not mistaken, All right, here we go.

854
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: Go Fox.

855
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: I used to have a hat that played the fight song.

856
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: Really yeah, you press the bill and it done. No

857
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: no no no no no no no no no no no.

858
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: It would have been better if it played Sandstorm. But

859
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: I'll accept it. I'll accept it.

860
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 4: You know, Sandstorm hadn't been recorded yet, and actually Sandstorm

861
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: it took nine years after Sandstorm was recorded for the

862
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 4: students of the University of South Carolina to discover that

863
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 4: it existed, even though the rest of the country had

864
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: been listening to it when it was recorded.

865
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: There's a good untapped market of like euro techno that's

866
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: played by marching bands, that's played in stadiums well after

867
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: the fact that they were popular, and I appreciate drut.

868
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: Has probably moved to a place in Charleston.

869
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. They have to.

870
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 4: He's got to be the most like the second most

871
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: popular person in the state of South Carolina behind Dabo.

872
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: I think that's right. And can will never buy a

873
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: mohito again in the state of South Carolina. All right,

874
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: So game Cocks are Every game is close, it seemed,

875
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: other than maybe the Clemson game at the end and

876
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: the Georgia game. So my sympathy is to South Carolina

877
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: fans for all of the heart attacks. I didn't watch

878
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: a ton of South Carolina, but for a Will must

879
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: Champ team. What happened to the defense and is it?

880
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: Is it just a bad injury luck sort of blip.

881
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: I think probably because they overachieved their first two years

882
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: under must Champ, and that has never been an issue,

883
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 4: whether he was the coach at Florida or the defensive

884
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: coordinator at Texas. Finding players on that side of the

885
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 4: ball and then putting them in the right spots on

886
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 4: that side of the ball has never been an issue.

887
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: So I think we can we can look at this

888
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 4: as an anomaly and just say, all right, they're going

889
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: to be better defensively. Now, what does that mean in

890
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: terms of where they land in the SEC East is

891
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: another story entirely, because I think they're still going to

892
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: be looking up at Georgia. There's a chance they're looking

893
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: up at Florida. Then what happens if Tennessee's better? They

894
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 4: can't seem to beat Kentucky. Now, eventually they're gonna they're

895
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 4: gonna turn that around, but you know, they just really

896
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: cannot seem to figure out how to beat Kentucky. So

897
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 4: you know, this is a team that that could be

898
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 4: the second or third best team in the East, but

899
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: they've got to they got to figure some stuf.

900
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: I think that's right. And the offense did take a

901
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: nice step under a first year coordinator, and they'll have

902
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: a senior quarterback next year, so they're at least poised

903
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: to and I don't have the schedule in front of

904
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: me look better and maybe finished games out that they

905
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: didn't in twenty eighteen.

906
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's that's the issue with them. I

907
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 4: Mean they always get Texas A and m out of

908
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: the West. So that's that's not a pleasant thing this

909
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: year because I think Texas A and M is going

910
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 4: to be better.

911
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: But I just I think they're they're probably due to

912
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 3: it's weird.

913
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: We have not seen a South Carolina team under Will

914
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 4: mus Champ play to its potential. It's either played well

915
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: above it the first two years well below it this year.

916
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 4: So if they play too potential, then you're talking about

917
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: I would think, you know, an eight or nine win season. Yeah,

918
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: I think that would be about right, depending on who

919
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: you know. A couple of toss ups. So I I mean,

920
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 4: if you're South Carolina, I think you should be happy

921
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: with that.

922
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: I think that's right.

923
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 4: I know they got spoiled with their eleven win seasons

924
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 4: under Steve Spurrier and beating Clemson every year, but that's

925
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: not gonna happen anymore.

926
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: Steven Garcia's do not grow on trees. That's just fact.

927
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You can't just find a.

928
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: Steven Garcia anywhere, or or is Davian Clowney or a

929
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 4: Marcus Latimore.

930
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: Correct, give me a number.

931
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 3: And honestly, those players are going to Clemson now.

932
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: They are going to Clemson. So we might as well

933
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: just give me another number before South Carolina fans become

934
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: even more despondent. Sorry, nine nine, let's talk Florida. That

935
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: worked out nicely. I would say, all things considered for

936
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: a first year coach, really good opening year, LSU, Florida State,

937
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: Michigan wins. Hard to be disappointed with any of that.

938
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: Only one really indefensible loss in Missoo, and Missoo is

939
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: probably a second tier SEC team. They just weren't.

940
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: Missoo was kind of due with that point.

941
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 4: Yes, you knew they're going to do that to somebody

942
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: in Florida just drew the unlucky short straw. This is

943
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 4: the most optimism I have noticed in Gainesville in Wow, golly,

944
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 4: since Tebow was.

945
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: The quarterback, J had Jim mcawaan really drained the place.

946
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: Wow, well, even the muss CHAMPI years. They even after

947
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: that that really good twenty twelve season, nobody was particularly

948
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: optimistic because of the way it ended. They hammered by

949
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: Louisville and it was like was this thing a mirage

950
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: or what? And so I think they feel like there's

951
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: there's definitely Ford momentum. Now here's the deal you have

952
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 4: to build on that, and that's that's Dan Mullen's next step.

953
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 4: You've got to now be able to win some games

954
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 4: that actually their similar position to LSU, where you are

955
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: kind of where you need to be at this point

956
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: in your tenure. At some point you will be asked

957
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: to ascend to that national title contender level because Florida

958
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: and ls you expect more than you know. We've talked

959
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: about Kentucky and South Carolina. You know those places should

960
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 4: not expect that. At LSU and Florida, they can expect

961
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: that and do so. I don't think that's going to

962
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 4: be expected of Dan Mullen this season, but it will

963
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: be by twenty twenty. So better keep stepping that direction,

964
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: and you know, we'll see what happens. I thought what

965
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: they did with Felipe Franks over the year was really good.

966
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 4: I mean that is coaching right there. What you saw

967
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: in terms of his mentality changing over the year, and

968
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: I think the South Carolina game really turned things for him.

969
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 4: I think he realized, wait a second, this can be

970
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 4: my team. I don't have to just be a placeholder

971
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: until they find their quarterback that they recruited. I can

972
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 4: be the guy here and so we'll see if he

973
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 4: can hold off a challenge from Emery Jones, because my

974
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: guess is Emory Jones will be given every opportunity to

975
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: win the starting job in the spring practice, in preseason camp.

976
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: But I think now that's going to be more of

977
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: a competition.

978
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: How far way with whoever behind center, whether it's Emery

979
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: Jones or Filipe Franks. Are they from Georgia though, that's

980
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 2: the measuring stick.

981
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: That is the measuring stick, And I don't know if

982
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: it's that side of the ball that you need to

983
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: worry about as much.

984
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 3: Which is strange again.

985
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when we're talking about Florida, but they're they're

986
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 4: defensive recruiting was it tailed off so much under Mclawaine

987
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 4: that they're very thin on that side of the ball.

988
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: You saw it last year like when Marco Wilson went down.

989
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 4: They're not as Remember how deep they were when muss

990
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: Champ was with all the defensive players. Yeah, it was crazy.

991
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 4: So they're not there. They got to get back to that,

992
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: and that's something I think they can do. I think

993
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: this staff is capable of recruiting that way and building

994
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 4: that depth. But that's not something that happens in one year.

995
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: So they are going to be very dependent on good

996
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 4: injury luck defensively to stay afloat. It will get hard

997
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: for them if they have a few key injuries, especially

998
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 4: in the secondary, and you know, if they can, if

999
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 4: they can get through this year, I think then they'll

1000
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 4: be more toward the depth level they need to be at,

1001
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 4: where it'll be more you know, more normal for top

1002
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: to your sec team, where if you lose a guy, Okay,

1003
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 4: it stinks you lost a guy, but there's another guy

1004
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: who's pretty capable behind him.

1005
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, all sounds reasonable. One, four ten, eleven, twelve, fourteen.

1006
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to fourteen.

1007
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: Let's go fourteen.

1008
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: Big.

1009
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 2: Oh see, but I didn't do that. I didn't. I

1010
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: went against expectations.

1011
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: It's not in order of finish.

1012
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: It's not in order of finish. We are going to

1013
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 2: miszoo because then I'm glad we are, because we just

1014
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 2: mentioned them as being due to beat somebody interesting and big,

1015
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: and they did. There's a good case being made that

1016
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: Barry otom is the ultimate second half coach after his

1017
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: two seasons just dominating late October and November.

1018
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 3: Every first time.

1019
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 4: You know, every young writer when they're writing their first

1020
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 4: few game stories. Does their tail of two Cities lead? Yes,

1021
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,280
Speaker 4: Barry Otem's Captain Taylor Two Cities Lead.

1022
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: Like Barry Otams shows up to give the book report

1023
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: without having read the book, and he was like, well,

1024
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: there were two cities. There was a very grand tale

1025
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: that you know, had a number of themes man versus man.

1026
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 4: But it's almost like someone is feeding in the book

1027
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 4: as he goes and by the time he finishes, he's

1028
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 4: an expert.

1029
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 2: This is true, And I guess the only parallel to

1030
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: be drawn here is the end of the Kentucky game

1031
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 2: being just a total mess and not at all Miszoo's faults.

1032
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: So they should have finished the season. What winning five

1033
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: six in a row is their actual momentum. I know

1034
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: they've recruited, all things considered pretty well, not for SEC standards,

1035
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: but I think that's a top thirty ish recruiting class

1036
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: right now. Is there in your mind an ability for

1037
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: Miszoo not to obviously get back to winning the SEC

1038
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: East necessarily, but sort of being that second ish tier

1039
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: in the SEC consistently.

1040
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean they have a quarterback right now.

1041
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 4: They have Kelly Bryant, so we know what Kelly Bryant

1042
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 4: can do. And you know, if you put Kelly Bryant

1043
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 4: against Alabama you might have an issue. But against the

1044
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 4: teams in the SEC East sans Georgia, maybe I think

1045
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: they're they can win. So you know, they get they

1046
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: get West Virginia. West Virginia is probably not going to

1047
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 4: be what they were. Well, they're definitely not going to

1048
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 4: be what they.

1049
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: Were last year. You know, I'd be more.

1050
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 4: It's funny because they were going to play Neil Brown

1051
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: one way or the other. Like if Neil Brown were

1052
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 4: still at Troy, I'd be picking Troy to win that

1053
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: game in Columbia, Missouri next year. But he's not at

1054
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: Troy anymore. And now I'm picking Neil Brown to lose

1055
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: in Columbia, Missouri with West Virginia. As strange as that sounds,

1056
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 4: but no, I think I think they have a manageable schedule.

1057
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: Now it really comes down to what do you do

1058
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 4: in the games you can win in the East, Like Kentucky.

1059
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 4: They should have won the Kentucky game last year. Can

1060
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: you go to Lexington and win? You get South Carolina

1061
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: at home? They should have beaten South Carolina in South

1062
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: Carolina last year.

1063
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 3: Can you beat them at home?

1064
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 4: You know, from the west, they get All miss they

1065
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: should be able to handle them. You know, we'll see

1066
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 4: what the two new coordinators at all miss but Missouri

1067
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: should be able to do it. They have a very

1068
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: favorable schedule, and I think we could be looking at

1069
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 4: Missouri as you know, sort of like we were talking

1070
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 4: about South Carolina.

1071
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: This this is a team that could be in that

1072
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 3: middle tier.

1073
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 4: But they have to they have to win the toss ups,

1074
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 4: right and so like that, that South Carolina game early on.

1075
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: Is a big toss up for them.

1076
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: They play them Week four in Columbia, Missouri, and you

1077
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 4: win that game, you probably had all kinds of momentum

1078
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 4: heading in the rest of your sec schedule. Uh, lose

1079
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 4: that game and and then you gotta gott to recalibrate

1080
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 4: your expectations. Now here's the thing. They can't be the

1081
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 4: Missouri of the last two years. If they want this

1082
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: to work. If they can, if they can start strong,

1083
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 4: this the schedule lends itself to them starting strong. So

1084
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: if they can start strong and then have the same

1085
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 4: kind of finishing kick that they've had, this could be

1086
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 4: a really good year for them. But they they've got

1087
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 4: to figure out how to how to put it together

1088
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 4: early in a season, and they've yet to do that

1089
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: under Bury on.

1090
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: Them, I think that's all. Yeah, I'm excited. I think

1091
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: they have what the best returning tight end probably in

1092
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 2: the conference. Yeah, in Albert Oh so, I mean there

1093
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: are pieces there that can be game changers.

1094
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, And Kelly Bryant has been in these games.

1095
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: You know, there's nothing that any of the teams on

1096
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 4: their schedule are going to throw at him that he

1097
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 4: has not seen.

1098
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: Ah.

1099
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: Yes, Derek Dooley excitement one, four, ten, Yeah, sorry, he's

1100
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: been well.

1101
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 3: Before we move on, he did well.

1102
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: He did do well.

1103
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: You know that we're allowed to make fun of him

1104
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 3: as much anymore.

1105
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: It's more of like the surprise that actually saying Derek

1106
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: Dooley excitement as being an actual real thing. All right,

1107
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: what are our numbers that we have one for ten, eleven, twelve, twelve,

1108
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: text A and M very clearly. I mean, after the

1109
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: best Clemson loss of the year, probably at full health,

1110
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: they beat LSU, they win their bowl game the way

1111
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: that they did, They're going to come into the season

1112
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: with a ton of probably top ten, top twelve type

1113
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: of hype conversation.

1114
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: You're going to get the biggest bowl but ittable.

1115
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: Oh, it's gonna be brutal, it's gonna.

1116
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: Be so so enormous. And their their schedule is awful.

1117
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: It's wrong.

1118
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: Your schedule is so hard.

1119
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: Oh they could be a nine win team that finishes

1120
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: seven and five or a ten win team that finished

1121
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 2: at seven and five.

1122
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they could be as good or better than

1123
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: they were this year and the results not bear that

1124
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 4: out at all.

1125
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: Are you? Are you a Kellen Mond believer?

1126
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm a believer, But I like him.

1127
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I liked him, you know when when someone was

1128
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: still there and he played against Alabama and played them

1129
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: as about as tough as anybody could. Yes, I thought,

1130
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 4: you know, this guy, he's definitely got something to him.

1131
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 4: It's just a matter of, you know, will put it

1132
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: all together. And then of course he has to learn

1133
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 4: a new offense and everything else. So I do think

1134
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 4: they have what they need at quarterback. I just and

1135
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 4: they got players. I mean, that's one thing Jimbo Fisher

1136
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: said when he got there, is pleasantly surprised because the

1137
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: cupboard was not bear. Someone left them playing players, and

1138
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: they they've obviously picked up you know, right where they

1139
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: left off recruiting.

1140
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: So this is the issue though.

1141
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 4: I mean, like you go to Clemson, everybody's gonna pencil

1142
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 4: that in his loss.

1143
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 3: And if you win that game, obviously everything changes. But

1144
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: you know, you go to Clemson.

1145
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 4: And then week four, you got Auburn coming to you

1146
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: in a game where you finally the home team finally

1147
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: won the game last year, but in very odd fashion

1148
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: like A and M just gave it away. So does

1149
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 4: the road team start winning again? And this this is

1150
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: a series that I think other than the year Manziel

1151
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 4: came in and just clabberd Auburn, I think it's been

1152
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 4: pretty close most years. So and that's you, that's your

1153
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 4: intro to SEC play, and then it just sort of

1154
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 4: rolls from there. So and then you got to go

1155
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 4: to Athens late in the season, like your final two

1156
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: games are at Georgia and at LSU.

1157
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: That's brutal.

1158
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: That's brutal.

1159
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see it.

1160
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 4: But yes, that said in a vacuum, I think they're

1161
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 4: a better team than they were this year.

1162
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: I think that's Zimbo Fisher is going to do a

1163
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: good job there.

1164
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: And I think hear two of Mike Elco is going

1165
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: to be enormous.

1166
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean, you know, getting them back with

1167
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 4: the kind of athletes that they can recruit, getting them

1168
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: back to playing good defense. I think that is a

1169
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 4: bigger key to consistency than anything else for you.

1170
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's right. I'm excited to see

1171
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: them one four to ten, eleven, All right, eleven eleven.

1172
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: Here here is your woo pig. This is the easiest question,

1173
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: at least the most simple question in simple thought. Arkansas

1174
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: was very bad in twenty eighteen? Is their reason to

1175
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: believe they'll simply be bad? I know what they get

1176
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: an average American Conference quarterback who's familiar with their offense.

1177
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: The offense I guess, yeah he was. He was pretty average.

1178
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: Can they ascend to just below average?

1179
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, because they're still trying to remake the

1180
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 4: roster into what Chad Morris wants it to look like,

1181
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 4: because that, you know, Brett Beelma.

1182
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 3: Didn't have a roster like that.

1183
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 4: But I don't know, because A and M's Like I said,

1184
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 4: A and M's better, LSU's probably better, Ole Miss will

1185
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: be better, Alabama's Alabama Auburn is you know, we're predicting

1186
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: Auburn to not be good, which means they'll kill everyone.

1187
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: That's rough.

1188
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: I don't know where the wins are. I just don't

1189
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 3: where the who.

1190
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: Do you bet I'm pulling up their schedule right now.

1191
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 4: You know they play Missouri at the end of the season,

1192
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: and we know what Missouri does to teams at the

1193
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 4: end of the season.

1194
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 2: This is true, they can win. Oh god, this is rough. This,

1195
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: You're right, this is I'm not a good enough detective.

1196
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,959
Speaker 2: They have Portland State, Colorado State, Oh, miss San Jose State.

1197
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you should beat Colorado State this year, should

1198
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: beat San Jose State. Yeah, But in the SEC I

1199
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean, and they actually could be a

1200
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 4: little bit better than they were, and I still don't

1201
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: know what happens. I still don't know where the wins are.

1202
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: There's a chance of teams that they have to beat

1203
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 4: get better.

1204
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: They could start four and oh and finish four and eight.

1205
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: It's entirely possible.

1206
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: It's a rough way to go through life. But yeah,

1207
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean, they recruited relatively well, all things considered, that

1208
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: what you're recruiting to and what you have to replace,

1209
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: there's opportunities, certainly, and it just does not feel like

1210
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen is a okay, We're going to be frisky

1211
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: and nobody wants to play us, which is certainly the

1212
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: first step for a competitive Arkansas team.

1213
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. At what point? Now? This is?

1214
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: This is the year when when.

1215
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 4: Morris was at SMU, when we looked at it and went,

1216
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 4: I don't know where the winds are, and they wound

1217
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 4: up beating Houston. I think they ended up going four

1218
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: and eight or five and seven, and then the turnaround

1219
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 4: was completed the following year.

1220
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: So maybe maybe he just has some year two magic

1221
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: that we don't know about.

1222
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 2: It's possible. It's wait and see for me.

1223
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 4: And I don't think when Arkansas cleaned house and got

1224
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 4: rid of Jeff Long and Brett Bielima, I don't think

1225
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: the people in, you know, making the decisions and writing

1226
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: the checks were fully appreciative of how hard the job is.

1227
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. One, four or ten, ten,

1228
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: let's go ten. I love this offseason. I don't know

1229
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: if it's going to do anything. I don't know if

1230
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: it's going to be fun, but I love it so far.

1231
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: Ole Miss had a nightmare of a year on defense,

1232
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: they win one sec game, but make probably the splashiest

1233
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: duo of coordinator Hires and rich Rotten Mike McIntyre at least,

1234
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: I guess in name are they those two in a

1235
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: position at all to succeed they.

1236
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 4: Here's the thing there, there have been athletes on ole

1237
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 4: missus defense, true recently, and I realize everybody's going to go, well,

1238
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 4: you know, that's why they have NCAA violations and a lot. Yeah,

1239
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 4: they got athletes pretty much across the roster. It's been

1240
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 4: a case of putting those athletes in the proper positions defensively.

1241
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 4: So maybe McIntyre's that guy, although I would argue that

1242
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 4: that his greatest success at Colorado came when Jim Levitt

1243
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 4: was running his defense, and then once Jim Levitt was gone,

1244
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 4: then it wasn't that good anymore, Right, So you know,

1245
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 4: we'll see. I definitely think Rich rod has a little

1246
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 4: more work with. I realized they don't have the best

1247
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 4: receiving core in America anymore like they did.

1248
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 3: But Matt corral could be a good quarterback. We'll see.

1249
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 4: The few times he got put in last year, he

1250
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 4: seemed to perform, So I think I think he's got

1251
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: a better shot of early success than McIntyre does. The

1252
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 4: thing is there's there's got to be improvement or they're

1253
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 4: all gone. Yeah, you know that they're going to clean

1254
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: house if they're not. Because Matt Luke's an interim who

1255
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 4: got you know, got the full time job, he's not

1256
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 4: going to get the same amount of time someone who

1257
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 4: was hired from outside would get.

1258
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 3: So they had better get better quickly.

1259
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 4: And you know, I again, this is the same thing

1260
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 4: we were talking about with with Arkansas. Where are the wins?

1261
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 4: I I, you know, you'll beat Arkansas, you know, I

1262
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: think I think they should be competitive Mississippi State, Yeah,

1263
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 4: but I worry about them against LSU, against Auburn, against Alabama.

1264
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that's that's three right there. You know.

1265
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say win A and M and yeah,

1266
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: who do they So they have l s U, A

1267
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: and M, they have Vandy. They should be able to

1268
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: be competitive against Vandy. Again, they get Cal, which they

1269
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: should be able to. I love that they're playing Cal.

1270
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: I love that. You know, do you have a Berkeley

1271
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: Oxford series? But yeah, I think they can probably aspire

1272
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 2: to We're going to put point on everybody. You're going

1273
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: to have to outscore us, and many and most will,

1274
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: but I think they can aspire to that like two

1275
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: thousand and five six Texas tech level.

1276
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 4: And I think six and six should make you happy

1277
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 4: in terms of improvement. Yeah, it won't make anybody happy there, No,

1278
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: I think it should.

1279
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, if they beat Mississippi State, everybody will

1280
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: be happy.

1281
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 4: No, And that's that's the funny thing is they can

1282
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 4: be five and six going into that game, win that game.

1283
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: And get ball eligible.

1284
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Success, we'll see at Memphis as a season opener.

1285
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 2: No, no for them? One or four?

1286
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: Four?

1287
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: All right, Alabama, which means I made Tennessee number one,

1288
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: which felt right for some sort of twisted reason. So Alabama,

1289
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: I did trick you. Aside from let's call it the

1290
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: clear most important reason for the manner and very public

1291
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: way in which the Tide loss, which is Clemson's excellence,

1292
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: what was it? I guess if anything internally about the

1293
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen team that could have contributed to that sort

1294
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: of out of character beat down.

1295
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it was something that happened in

1296
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen. I think it was when they were recruiting

1297
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 4: corners and both of them were going after Justin Ross.

1298
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 4: Clemson and Alabama were both going after Justin Ross, and

1299
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 4: Auburn was also going after him. Justin Ross picked Clemson.

1300
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 4: If Justin Ross picks Alabama, then that result is not

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 4: the same. There's not a wins above replacement receiver for

1302
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: Clemson that you can throw in there. Maybe it's T Higgins,

1303
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: Maybe not though, because remember, if you don't have Justin Ross,

1304
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 4: you can put a better corner on T. Higgins, which

1305
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 4: they did put a better corner on T Higgins. Justin

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Speaker 4: Ross was the one they kind of left, you know,

1307
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: playing against the they're not as good corners, and you

1308
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 4: saw what he did to them. And I don't think

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01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 4: they're going to find many situations where they face another

1310
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 4: team that has recruited as well or better than they have.

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01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 4: They're just not gonna There's nobody else like that. So

1312
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be fine in the SEC except

1313
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 4: you know, when they when they ultimately play Georgia in Atlanta, right,

1314
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 4: and I think that's gonna be a really fun game,

1315
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 4: just like it has been the last two times they've

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Speaker 4: played in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: But I think they're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 4: Every everybody looks at the score of that game, and

1319
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 4: the fact that the whole staff has has turned over, well,

1320
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 4: the whole staff has turned over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 4: and they've still managed to be good. You know, as

1322
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 4: long as Nick Saban's there, they're going to be good.

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Speaker 4: Now does this Does this portend a time when Alabama

1324
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Speaker 4: is not the you know, dominant program in college football

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Speaker 4: and not the dominant program in the SEC?

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Speaker 3: Maybe? Maybe?

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Nick Saban eventually will retire and then

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: they won't be anymore. So, but I think as long

1329
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 4: as he's there, they have to be the favorite, and

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 4: you have to assume that they are going to be

1331
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 4: the best team on any given Saturday in an SEC game.

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01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: So I just I think I think the downfall and

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01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 4: everybody loves to write those the dynasties over columns. Don't

1334
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,959
Speaker 4: do it yet, No, don't do it, say save save

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 4: that for later.

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Speaker 3: It's not time.

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Speaker 4: It did feel different, though, didn't it. It did feel

1338
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: different because we've never seen them get beat like that. Right,

1339
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 4: every other team has gotten beaten like that. We have

1340
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 4: not seen a Nick Saban Alabama team get beaten like that,

1341
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 4: And so it feels different because it's it's a kind

1342
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 4: of vulnerability we've seen from them.

1343
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: That we didn't think existed.

1344
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 2: So strange.

1345
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 4: But that said, Clemson's the only team capable of exposing

1346
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 4: that vulnerability. There's nobody in the SEC capable of it,

1347
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 4: because if Georgia was capable of it, would.

1348
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 3: Have done it.

1349
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 2: Nobody has that combination of quarterback and continuity and talent

1350
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: level and culture to to go into a game like

1351
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 2: that that fearlessly.

1352
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: Georgia could could for sure, could you know, maybe maybe

1353
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 4: December twenty nineteen or December twenty twenty. George is at

1354
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 4: that point, but nobody's there yet in the SEC.

1355
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: It's incredible that we are in a time where there

1356
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: are at least right now, two teams nationally that have

1357
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: gotten this close to Alabama. There's always been like that one,

1358
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: or like the old Miss offense this year, or a

1359
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 2: freak South Carolina year, but there's never been the infrastructure.

1360
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: It seems to me that there are those two teams

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01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 2: that are basically, if not on Alabama's level.

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01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: Yes, and so that's good for college football. Yes, that

1363
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 4: there are those teams, and it will make things interesting.

1364
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: It's just it makes Anick Sapements job a little bit harder.

1365
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 4: But the thing is they still have to They still

1366
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 4: have all those receivers, they've still recruited. Well, there will

1367
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 4: be a Quinn Williams type who you don't know about,

1368
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 4: who only the recruit Nicks know about, who will be

1369
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 4: a household name come October. They're going to rense and

1370
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 4: repeat and they're still going to be really good.

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01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 2: If there is an internal downfall, because I know you

1372
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: don't see it coming right now. Is it only Nick

1373
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 2: Saban retiring or is there any Is it Scott Cochrane leaving?

1374
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: Is there anything internal that.

1375
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 3: Scott Cochrane leaving would be a huge thing?

1376
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1377
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

1378
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: I've I've strained the conditioning, make sure the coordinators. Yeah,

1379
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 4: that he's more important than either coordinator. And it's funny,

1380
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 4: he's not even the highest paced strength coach in America.

1381
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 3: Wow, who guy at Iowa is the highest Okay? Yeah,

1382
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 3: so I.

1383
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 4: Mean it's I think he is the second most important

1384
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 4: person in that organization behind Nick Saban. And when they

1385
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 4: kept him away from Georgia, they kept themselves atop the

1386
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 4: SEC a little bit longer.

1387
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: That's it's amazing that kind of impact. But it makes

1388
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 2: sense because he has so much FaceTime. He is the

1389
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: good cop, and he has so much FaceTime with the

1390
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: team all year long.

1391
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 3: He right, he interacts with the players more than any

1392
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 3: other coach. He is the guy.

1393
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 4: So you know you you don't have him, then you

1394
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 4: don't does the message Saban wants to get across? Get

1395
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 4: across because Saban's big thing is messaging. It's it's all

1396
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 4: about you know. Here's what I need them to understand

1397
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,879
Speaker 4: this this week, and it's not just game weeks, it's

1398
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 4: this random week in January. Here's what I needed to understand.

1399
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 4: Scott Cochran is the guy who makes sure that message

1400
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 4: g's through.

1401
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 2: Incredible. Yeah, Final team Tennessee our headliner for all the

1402
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 2: goodwill of beating a good Kentucky team and a pretty

1403
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: good Auburn team on the road. They finished two and seven.

1404
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: Those are the two Power Five wins of the year

1405
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 2: for Tennessee. So outside of the UH the South Carolina collapse,

1406
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: the rest of them were uncompetitive losses. The good news

1407
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 2: is recruiting transfers, returning guys. Jim Cheney, I guess what

1408
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: is the case for Tennessee colin consistently improving Bowl team.

1409
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 4: I think that's probably the right the right tack to

1410
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:03,879
Speaker 4: take is consistent improving Bowl team, not sec East Challenger

1411
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 4: not there yet, and it's going to take him a

1412
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 4: little bit. But the Cheney hire, I think is a

1413
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 4: good one. You know, you look at when he was

1414
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 4: there before, what he did with Kiffin, and he turned

1415
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 4: Jonathan Crompton into a into a guy who got drafted.

1416
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 2: I still don't I still have my doubts that that

1417
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 2: actually happened. Insane it happened. I promise there's YouTube clips

1418
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: of it. There's proof, those receipts.

1419
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I that's right.

1420
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 4: So I do think that's a really good hire because

1421
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 4: Cheney seems to have the temperament to work, you know,

1422
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 4: with those And look, Cheney just worked with Kirby Smart

1423
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 4: for a few years. You know, he can work with

1424
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 4: Jeremy Prewett. They're similar guys, you know, the similarly demanding.

1425
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 4: So I don't think that's going to be an issue.

1426
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 4: And you know, they don't have bad players. And I

1427
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 4: think Jeremy Prewett is a is the type of recruiter

1428
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 4: who understands what he needs, understands you know. The question

1429
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 4: with Jeremy Prewett is knowing he can get the same

1430
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 4: kind of guys at Alabama and Georgia can always get.

1431
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: How does he kind of reevaluate recruits, How does he

1432
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 4: how does he decide who's a take and who's not,

1433
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 4: Because you're not going to get your ideal wish list

1434
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 4: every time like you did when you're in Alabama. So

1435
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: it's really more of a test of him as a recruiter.

1436
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 4: But my guess, just given his history, is that you

1437
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 4: because he's he's so he's never stopped recruiting the same

1438
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 4: high schools. If you think about it, you know, he's

1439
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 4: gone from Alabama to Florida State, to Georgia to Alabama

1440
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 4: to Tennessee. He's still recruiting all the same high schools

1441
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 4: and in Georgia and Tennessee and Alabama and Florida that

1442
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 4: he always did. So he's got a good network and

1443
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 4: a good understanding, you know, going back to when these

1444
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 4: players were in eighth grade of what they can and

1445
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 4: can't do. So I think I think that's that bodes

1446
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 4: well for Tennessee that he's going to be able to

1447
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 4: stock the roster the way it needs to be stocked.

1448
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 4: Then it's just a matter of them putting it together

1449
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 4: on the field. I mean, I thought this team was

1450
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 4: wildly inconsistent last year. I mean, that's that's not really

1451
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 4: a news flash. But you go from that Florida game

1452
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 4: where everything that could have gone wrong went wrong, to

1453
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 4: the end of the season where for the most part

1454
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,560
Speaker 4: it seemed like they had cohesive game plans that the

1455
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 4: players didn't quit. I mean, I think, I think they're

1456
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 4: on the right track. I just don't think it's going

1457
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 4: to be easy because unfortunately for them, Kirby Smart is

1458
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 4: building a monster at Georgia and Dan Mullen is doing

1459
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 4: a good job at Florida and that is going to

1460
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 4: make it where And then you've got Will must Champa

1461
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 4: at South Carolina with the what we talked about earlier.

1462
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 4: If they if they even perform up to expectations, they're

1463
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 4: at least the level of Tennessee and probably better, right,

1464
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 4: And then there's March Stoops at Kentucky. So there's I

1465
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 4: think there's some pretty good coaches in the East, and

1466
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 4: I think that's that's the thing Tennessee is going to

1467
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 4: run up against where it will take some time to

1468
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 4: get them to where they're competitive at the top.

1469
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right. That is I'm really hoping for

1470
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: the best because I've liked the best of Jerk Warrentano.

1471
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: I know that the transfers coming in. There's some Aubrey

1472
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 2: Solomon coming in.

1473
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: His arm is off the show.

1474
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous, but it's you know, you gotta it can't

1475
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 4: just be a great arm.

1476
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: There's a lot of other facts that involved.

1477
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so I feel good about all of this. I'm

1478
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: glad we went through the fourteen teams the way that

1479
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 2: we did. And here's my final question for you before

1480
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: we let everybody go. We always seem to talk about food,

1481
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 2: because of course we do. Give me something non food

1482
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 2: that you've consumed, whether it's an album, whether it's a

1483
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: TV show, whether it's a movie, whether it's a book

1484
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: or a graphic novel or whatever that you can recommend

1485
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,959
Speaker 2: to people as an off season something.

1486
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what I saw the first episode

1487
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 4: of Black Monday on Showtime.

1488
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 3: That shows Okay, awesome, don day. It's it's it's.

1489
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 4: A period piece set in nineteen eighty seven. Oh that

1490
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 4: the stock makes Yeah, Black Monday. The stock market crash

1491
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 4: in eighty seven, and it's about how it happened. It's

1492
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 4: a fictional story of how it happened, and it is.

1493
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 4: It's a pure comedy. It is hysterical that they have

1494
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 4: this guy playing the Lehman brothers. He plays both Lehman brothers. Okay,

1495
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 4: get just hand in the Emmy now. But Cheetle's fantastic.

1496
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, the first episode I was I was in

1497
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,879
Speaker 4: there's a great montage set to Don Henley's New York Minute.

1498
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: Okay, it's tremendous. Oh looks like it's seth Rogen as

1499
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: the executive producer Don Chietel. Yeah, I'm totally Yeah, I'm

1500
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 2: gonna watch this very so. Yes, great recommendation.

1501
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 3: Everybody get on board. Cool.

1502
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: Andy Staples, thank you very much for your time. If

1503
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: people want to follow you, follow Andy on Twitter. On

1504
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 2: s I read everything he writes. He writes a column,

1505
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: a weekly column called punt Pass and Pork. What is

1506
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 2: the single best way that if people want to consume

1507
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 2: your wares you're on Sirius XM. What is the easiest way, Well,

1508
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: just go to my Twitter feed, Andy underscore Staples and

1509
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: I put most of that stuff there and of course

1510
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 2: debscribed to series XM.

1511
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 4: That just because I have a show on it, but

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Speaker 4: because there's all kinds of great music channels, Howard Stern,

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Speaker 4: great interviews. So it's the best thirteen dollars a month

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Speaker 4: you can spend.

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Speaker 2: Done, do it? Listen, you get Andy Staples and your

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01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: show is what three hours long.

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Speaker 4: One to four pm Eastern every day on Channel eighty four,

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Speaker 4: which is the channel devoted to college sports.

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Speaker 3: That's right. And we don't just have one.

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Speaker 4: We have six channels devoted to college sports because mine

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01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 4: is the main college sports channel, but we also have

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Speaker 4: one devoted to each power conference.

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Speaker 2: This is true. And if you follow, if you already

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01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 2: follow Andy on Twitter, you know that when he starts

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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: tweeting during our three of his show, it's basically just

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01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: like what was the best arranged dance from a movie

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty four? Oh, it goes to weird places.

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Speaker 4: And basically what that means is my co host, Jason

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Speaker 4: Horowitz has given me some idea about something and I

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 4: need to crowdsource it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, done, Okay, Andy, thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Follow Andy everywhere he goes and we will speak soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Okay to and there you go.

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Speaker 1: Andy Staples Sports Illustrated Serious XAM, long time, long time,

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Speaker 1: best Bud of the podcast. What did you learn from

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01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: talking to him that you didn't know going into that interview,

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: that conversation.

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01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: Didn't know where to get tex mex in the Greater

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City area. Okay, import Tara Tara Humera, Tara Tara Humara,

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 2: whatever I now know to go there, go to their

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01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 2: Thanks to Andy and George Schroeder. It's one of those

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Speaker 2: the points that Andy made. I guess particularly like it.

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Speaker 2: AM very quick to say, Oh Georgia is there you know,

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 2: is there an opening where Georgia is losing coordinators and

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: all these transfers? What is you know? Do we have

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: faith that Kirby smart essentially is Nick Saban, that he

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01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: can weather anything thanks to his system and thanks to

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: so much talent. And I thought Andy did a good

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Speaker 2: job of pumping the brakes on any concern about Georgia

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01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 2: with the way that they finished their season, you know,

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: just and fields and the Sugar Bowl everything like that.

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: I thought that was that was probably pretty smart. I

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01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 2: liked his optimism about Miszoo. I thought that that was

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01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 2: pretty smart given that they are recruiting on a somewhat

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01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 2: respectable level. It's a top thirty thirty five class quarterback

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01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 2: play has been good and they're just very quietly in

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01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 2: that sec second tier. I thought that's I think that's

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: all correct. Texas A and M as a danger if

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: not for their schedule. I don't know if you've looked

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01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,839
Speaker 2: ahead to texts A and M schedule in twenty nineteen.

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 2: It is late January, and if you have, I'm so sorry,

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Speaker 2: but I have ty. It's not great really, So Texas

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Speaker 2: A and M in twenty nineteen they go to Clemson

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Speaker 2: week two. Oh boy, they have Auburn later on in

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Speaker 2: September neutral site against Arkansas, followed by Alabama, and then

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Speaker 2: they go to Ole Miss and then they finish out

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Speaker 2: the season though their November slash late October is Mississippi

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Speaker 2: State South Carolina as there the crossover game every year,

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Speaker 2: and they finished at Georgia at.

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Speaker 1: Ls That ain't easy.

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Speaker 2: Well, boy, season at Georgia at LSU at Clemson LAM

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Speaker 2: soon is is rocky? Tie? Okay, rocky?

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Speaker 1: If they go yeah, if they go with one loss

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01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: all year, that would be like they're the number two

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Speaker 1: team in the country.

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Speaker 2: With absolutely they absolutely are. And they recruited well enough

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Speaker 2: and they will continue to recruit well enough. Year two

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Speaker 2: of Mike Elco and even without Travon Williams, I thought

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Speaker 2: defensively they got better and better throughout the year save

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Speaker 2: for the LSU seven overtime game Texas. A and M

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01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: is quite interesting to me because they're the team that

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Speaker 2: has a potential ceiling to you know, they have a

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Speaker 2: lot higher to climb that outside of Alabama, there's the

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01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 2: obvious concern about Auburn and stability, obvious concerns about LSU

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Speaker 2: and generating offensive firepower consistently. But A and M feels

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Speaker 2: like that wild card in the West, and that it

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Speaker 2: made me a little more intrigued. I would say, given

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Speaker 2: what I mean, they're recruiting super duper well once again,

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Speaker 2: I'm intrigued by that. And then I think that Joe

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 2: moorehead once he has a forward pass thing, and that

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Speaker 2: the Keyton Thompson hope is interesting to me about Mississippi State,

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Speaker 2: that they are another one of those teams that if

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Speaker 2: they have a winning record in conference, they could be

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Speaker 2: winning nine ten games. That's interesting to me. Yeah, interesting.

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Speaker 2: I like the optimism abut Mississippi State and A and M.

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Speaker 1: All Right, well, Daniel, with all that being said, please

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Speaker 1: write in let us know what you think. Solid verbal

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. We're also out there at solid

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Speaker 1: verbal dot com. You can find all of our content.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to check us out on social media as well,

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Speaker 1: Twitter or Facebook, Instagram, all the usual hotspots. As Dan

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01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: staid at the top of the show, please do leave

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Speaker 1: us a review.

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01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 2: All that stuff helps.

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: We will be around all off season, though only once

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01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: a week now that we've got less college football stuff

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: to talk about. So here's what we're gonna do next week,

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01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 1: because we haven't in a while and because there is

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Speaker 1: ever demand for it. Big Q and A Show coming

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Yes, might even be a two parter. I don't know.

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01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 2: We're gonna stretch this one.

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Speaker 1: Big Q and A Show coming. We've also got a

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Speaker 1: fun show planned some point in the next couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks where we're gonna look at like the nineteen most

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Speaker 1: important transactions or I guess, yeah, of the young off

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Speaker 1: season so far. Yes, And I guess can college football

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Speaker 1: season at large?

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Speaker 2: Can we do for that show? This is what I

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01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: want to start doing occasionally, and this is this is

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Speaker 2: how we'll know about you know, after the Marvel movies

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Speaker 2: that you know, after the credits, there's a small little

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Speaker 2: teaser scene of some kind. Yeah, I want to do.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it'll be on that transaction show. Maybe it'll be

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Speaker 2: on the Q and A show. And by me saying

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Speaker 2: it'll happen sort of ruins the easter egg quality to it.

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01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 2: But the transaction show, there is an asterisk to the

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Speaker 2: show that I want to mention and I almost want

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Speaker 2: to do. This is so ridiculous to I don't know

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Speaker 2: how to call it. I don't I don't know what

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01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: to call it. Can we do an after show for

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Speaker 2: our own show on the same show that's very metadan

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01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: but we could try to do like isn't isn't there

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Speaker 2: like like Talking Dead like on AMC after The Walking

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01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: Dead where Chris Hardwick sits down and says, like, well,

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01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 2: what did we think about episode? That was crazy? Isn't

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01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: that a thing we could do that they did like

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01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: they did that with Breaking Bad? So I think I

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Speaker 2: think we do a postgame show on our own show

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01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 2: after the show is over on the same shown.

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Speaker 1: A week to figure out how to do that, but

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Speaker 1: we can y.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think you're still trying to figure

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01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: out When I try to say, do we want the

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01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: playoff to be a postseason versus a championship finder. All right, well,

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Speaker 2: yeah that's all.

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Speaker 1: Hit us up again usual hotspots, email Solid Rouble dot com,

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Speaker 1: leave us a review for that guy over there, my

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01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: good friend Dan Rubinstein for myself, Tie Hilton and Brand.

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Speaker 1: Still freezing over here in eastern Pennsylvania. We will catch

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Speaker 1: you all in a week. In the meantime, enjoy your week,

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Speaker 1: enjoy your weekend. Well, stay solid, Peace,