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Speaker 1: But what about innocent wives that are shot dead on

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Speaker 1: Serious x one eleven. You know you think of dentists

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Speaker 1: Why is it when couples go away suddenly the woman

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Speaker 1: ends up dead and the husband makes it home easier

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Speaker 1: to get away with in countries like and I hate

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Speaker 1: to say, but in certain countries it's much easier to

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Speaker 1: get away with that type of crime. Why do you

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Speaker 1: hate to say? It is true because their police forces

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Speaker 1: are not used to investigating homicides. It's just that simple.

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Speaker 1: Like where I grew up in bib County, out in

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Speaker 1: the middle of Middle Georgia, there were many less homicides

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Speaker 1: were than are in New York City or in inner

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Speaker 1: city Atlanta. The reality is detectives are trained in the field,

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Speaker 1: and when they don't see a lot of complicated homicides,

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Speaker 1: then they don't know how to investigate them. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's not a slight in any way. It's reality. Lisa,

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Speaker 1: Daddy O your rainancy, And so that's why we're seeing

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Speaker 1: it happen outside of the United States. Audible laws are different,

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Speaker 1: penalties are different, investigative techniques are different. And in this case,

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Speaker 1: it was believed he got away with murder. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about the way this whole thing went down.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut d The consular chief

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Speaker 1: estimated that Bianca Rudolph had been shot from between six

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Speaker 1: and a half and eight feet away. A separate inquiry

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Speaker 1: by a Colorado medical examiner concluded that it would be

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Speaker 1: physically impossible to accidentally fire the shotgun in its carrying

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Speaker 1: case and produce an entrance defect noted on the body

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Speaker 1: of Bianca Rudolph. The medical examiner determined the tip of

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Speaker 1: the carrying case was at least two feet away from

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Speaker 1: Bianca Rudolph when it discharged. What's more, at just five

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Speaker 1: feet four inches tall, it would be extremely difficult, if

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Speaker 1: not impossible, for Bianca Rudolph to reach the trigger of

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Speaker 1: the weapon, even if it was placed in the case

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Speaker 1: with the muzzle pressed against her chest. Crime Stories with

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace So Alexais Teresia crime online dot Com. Between

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Speaker 1: the longtime sex affair with the office manager and the

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Speaker 1: money motive millions of do dollars and the forensics, I'm

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Speaker 1: just surprised that it was initially rule to be accidental.

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? Well, there were the investigation was

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Speaker 1: very quickly ended. He's you know, he's a very very

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Speaker 1: wealthy man who's obviously been going on these trips for

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Speaker 1: years and years. Do you know how rich papal are.

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Speaker 1: The more money they have, the more they don't want

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Speaker 1: to share it. And he well, he did kind of

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Speaker 1: share his money a little bit because a witness has

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Speaker 1: come forward and said that he was actually paying bride

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Speaker 1: to people in Zambia to expedite the cremation of his wife.

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Speaker 1: Did it work well? Did yes? She got she got

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Speaker 1: cremated very quickly, and so she and it would have

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Speaker 1: just nothing would have happened. But the the US Embassy,

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Speaker 1: the person that was contacted in the US Embassy, was

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Speaker 1: very concerned that this was happening so quickly. So the

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Speaker 1: embassy sent someone to the funeral home to take pictures

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Speaker 1: of her body, and in fact, they got these photos

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Speaker 1: and these are what are being used now as proved

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Speaker 1: because and he was curious when this happened. The officer

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Speaker 1: in fact that he was quote livid that the embassy

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Speaker 1: staff had taken photos and the investiator of his wife's

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Speaker 1: dead body. How did it go again, alexas terre shook,

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Speaker 1: the funeral home, gets the body and then what happens, Well,

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Speaker 1: so the doctor called the embassy and said, my wife

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Speaker 1: has died. And then he's like, I need to get

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Speaker 1: her out of the country really quickly. So I'm very concerned.

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Speaker 1: You know. The consular chief at the embassy said Lawrence

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Speaker 1: identified himself. He said she died of a gunchat wood

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Speaker 1: and then he said, you know, we got to get

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Speaker 1: her cremated and out of here very quickly. Which seemed

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Speaker 1: a little suspicious. So the consular chiefs called the funeral

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Speaker 1: home and then he the funeral home said, we are

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Speaker 1: scheduling the cremation for the next day. But this raised

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Speaker 1: the flag for the embassy employee. He said this. He

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00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: had a bad feeling about this. He just thought it

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Speaker 1: was going quickly. After having a conversation with Larry, who said,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's go, let's go, let's get it, get

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Speaker 1: her cremated, let's get her out of here. And so

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Speaker 1: he decided to take it upon himself and he took

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Speaker 1: two other employees from the embassy and they went to

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Speaker 1: the funeral home and they took the photos. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm understanding that the husband, the dentist, was furious. You

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Speaker 1: said that also. Yes, he was, quote the livid that

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Speaker 1: they had taken the pictures of her and the consular

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Speaker 1: chief he said, come to the embassy. I will meet

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Speaker 1: with you, but he declined. And so the interesting thing

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Speaker 1: was the dentist was complaining. He was thinking, it's so good,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be so hard to take the body

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Speaker 1: back to the United States. You must you need a

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Speaker 1: lead lined coffin to do so. And it was very

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Speaker 1: difficult very expensive and that's why he just wanted to

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Speaker 1: get her cremated. But they investigated. He has taken many

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Speaker 1: of these large game animals back to the United States

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Speaker 1: and they have to be transported in a similar fashion.

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Speaker 1: You can't just stick them in your overnight bag and

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Speaker 1: stick them in the cabinet of the the airplane. So

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Speaker 1: he is very familiar with feeling with this and it's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not easy. But certainly if you wanted

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Speaker 1: to take your wife's body home them so that your

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Speaker 1: children could see them before you cremate mommy, that that

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Speaker 1: was something that could happen. But he was complaining, saying

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Speaker 1: it was much too complicated and difficult, even though he'd

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Speaker 1: been doing it for decades with the animals. Alexis Terres

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Speaker 1: shut crime online dot com. Isn't it true that he

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Speaker 1: allegedly also paid at least one tour guide to state

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Speaker 1: as a witness how the tour guide saw the body

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Speaker 1: in their bungalow. Yes, that that is what Its claimed

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Speaker 1: that he paid this tour guide to say that she

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Speaker 1: was on the ground that the gun was facing and

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Speaker 1: a few feet away from her. Throwing him around money

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be helping him. Speaking of money, you know,

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Speaker 1: the smarter people are, you'd think the better they could

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Speaker 1: cover their trucks. Not necessarily true. Take a listen to

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Speaker 1: Royster Jones CBS our Cut. Four federal investigators alleged Rudolph

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Speaker 1: killed his wife and had her cremated in Africa in

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Speaker 1: a scheme to collect millions in life insurance claims tied

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Speaker 1: to her death. According to the criminal complaint, Rudolph allegedly

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Speaker 1: made claims through seven different insurance companies, totaling more than

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Speaker 1: four point eight million dollars in payouts. Investigators go on

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Speaker 1: to say that Rudolph had his attorneys used FedEx to

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Speaker 1: mail claim related documents to one of the insurance companies.

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Speaker 1: The complaint also states the earliest life insurance policy to

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Speaker 1: cover Bianca was purchased around nineteen eighty seven, and that

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Speaker 1: the policies in which Lawrence Rudolph was the primary beneficiary

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Speaker 1: were updated and adjusted in twenty sixteen, the same year

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Speaker 1: Bianca died. You know to you, Donna Jory Krassen, Psychologists

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Speaker 1: faculty Saint Leo University to adjust your wife's life insurance

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Speaker 1: policy just before a rifle accident in Zambia isn't that

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Speaker 1: a little bit too much for Jerry Swallen. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: to think also he put it in a trust that

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Speaker 1: he controlled, I mean again thinking like you know, I

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Speaker 1: would consider him thinking that he's considering he's covering his

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00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: tracks by putting it in a trust. Yet you know

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Speaker 1: the trust is under his total control. Antiklosen our cut

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Speaker 1: one ay our friend Sheldon Ingram at Pittsburgh Action Needs.

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Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, it says Rudolph killed his wife, Bianca

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Speaker 1: Rudolph during an African safari in Zambia. He told authorities

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Speaker 1: it was an accidental shooting, as Bianca packed away a

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Speaker 1: shotgun and it went off, But forensic analysis, they say,

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00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: do not match that story. And investigators also say Rudolph

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00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: collected four point eight million dollars in life insurance after

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Speaker 1: his wife's death. Those policies were updated the same year

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Speaker 1: before her death in October of twenty sixteen. Investigators also

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Speaker 1: say they were told by a friend of Rudolph's wife

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Speaker 1: that he had an active affair with another woman at

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Speaker 1: the time of Bianca's dead you know, to Nicoldemort Hodgeglove

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Speaker 1: joining us from Houston. The reality is, while this seems

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Speaker 1: very nefarious. How hard is it going to be to

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Speaker 1: prove all of this ballistics without a body and without

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Speaker 1: the appropriate investigative photos and measurements. That's a great point,

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Speaker 1: And the reality is, I think this is where the

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Speaker 1: defense team has its strongest argument. They don't have the

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Speaker 1: ability to go back and analyze the forensics because there

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Speaker 1: were no forensics. There were a few photographs, and photographs

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Speaker 1: can really look different based on perspective, and that's why

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Speaker 1: you'll see in the complaint the FBI has spent such

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Speaker 1: a huge amount of time going back and trying to

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Speaker 1: reconstruct these photographs. Still, though the data just can never

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Speaker 1: be there, will he get away with it? Take a

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Speaker 1: listen to our cut five from Pittsburgh Actions Tom Garris.

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Speaker 1: A federal grand jury is charging the owner of Three

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Speaker 1: Rivers Dental with a foreign murder and mail fraud. The

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Speaker 1: FBI claiming that Lawrence Rudolph killed his wife in twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen on that hunting trip in Zambia in order to

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Speaker 1: collect nearly five million dollars in life insurance money. Now,

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Speaker 1: the FBI also says the owner of the dental practice

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Speaker 1: had a longtime relationship with a manager at the practice.

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Speaker 1: That woman is said to have given Rudolph an ultimatum

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Speaker 1: to sell the dental offices and to leave his wife,

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Speaker 1: Bianca within a year. The ultimatum, the money, the mistress,

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Speaker 1: the forensics. What does it boil down to a federal

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Speaker 1: grand jury or investigation? Does not a conviction make well?

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Speaker 1: He was taken into custody. Ultimately take a less an

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Speaker 1: hour cut one. Doctor Laurence Rudolph owns three Rivers Dental

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Speaker 1: and he greeked all callers with every courted automated message.

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Speaker 1: But tonight he is in federal custody in Colorado, accused

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Speaker 1: of murdering his wife. No one in his five offices

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Speaker 1: are talking, which includes locations in Greensburg and green Tree.

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Speaker 1: His arrest is detailed at a twenty one page affidavit

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Speaker 1: from the FBI. It details how he allegedly killed his

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Speaker 1: wife to collect more than four million dollars with a

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Speaker 1: life insurance policy. And that's at all. Take a listen

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Speaker 1: of what the defense says. Our cut six from KDKA.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Larry Rudolph's attorneys call this case manufacture, saying it's

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Speaker 1: so weak they're keeping a nearly seventy year old man

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Speaker 1: with a severe heart condition in jail, all as part

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Speaker 1: of what they're calling an FBI witch hunt. In court

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00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: documents just released, attorneys claimed the couple signed a prenup

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Speaker 1: saying he wouldn't lose much during a divorce, and also

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Speaker 1: claiming his dental franchise, Three Rivers Dental, is valued at

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Speaker 1: close to eight million dollars. Claiming he had no financial

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Speaker 1: reason kill his wife, local law enforcement in Africa rolled

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Speaker 1: it an accident and allowed for cremation days after her death. Now,

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Speaker 1: FBI agents believed Bianca could not have physically pulled the trigger.

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Speaker 1: Investigators believe his wife's life insurance policies, some adjusted in

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Speaker 1: the months leading up to her death, tell a different story,

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Speaker 1: a nearly five million dollars story. The dates show doctor

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00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: Rudolph received the money in under one month's time. He

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00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 1: got the money in under one month's time after her death.

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Speaker 1: And don't be feeling sorry for this guy because he's

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Speaker 1: seventy years old. He's still young enough to take his

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Speaker 1: mistress Ticabo for a sex soaked weekend. We wait as

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Speaker 1: justice unfolds Nancy Gray's crime story. Signing off Goodbye friend,