1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland, and this is Fitness Disrupted. As 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: I stand here doing this podcast, as I do, I 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: don't sit. I stand in my studio. I am really 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: sore walking up the two flights of stairs to my studio. 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: It's painful, painful in a good way. That good sore 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: that anyone who's done a hard event, hard hard workout 8 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: knows what I'm talking about. My quads or shredded as 9 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: I like to say. And going downstairs, I'm doing it sideways. 10 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: And I've been doing that for a couple of days now, 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: because it is Tuesday. And on Saturday, I did my 12 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: second Grand Canyon Run, second run across the Grand Canyon 13 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: and back with a little change. As I will tell you, 14 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: and some of you may have listened to my first 15 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: podcast about doing my first Grand Canyon run, known as 16 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: the Rim to Rim to Rim. So you run across 17 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: up to the top, then you run back down and 18 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: back to the other side, and that was incredibly special. 19 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: The event and the podcast came back a day earlier 20 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: than I did for this one, and I recorded that 21 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: podcast right away, and I did the same for this one, 22 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: but I'm a day at an extra day that we 23 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: built in just in case the weather went a little 24 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: wonky and we needed to move the run forward today 25 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: back a day, whichever way you look at it. But 26 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: that's what today's podcast is about. I'm feeling beaten up. 27 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: It's so good. I warn you, I'm still mentally out 28 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: of it because it's it beats you up psychologically as 29 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: well as physically. But another one of the most incredible 30 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: experiences I've ever had, and that's what I'm all about, 31 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: is collecting experiences and connecting all of it to everything 32 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: that I talked about here on Fitness Disrupted, living our 33 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: best lives, being healthy, controlling what we can and there's 34 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: so many different topics that I've already talked about, but 35 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I will hit on in this podcast as well. The 36 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: biophilia hypothesis did a fit tip about that hydration. All 37 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: of that stuff goes into what I just did. And 38 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: that's the final thing too. You know, when I first 39 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: started in this industry, So these are the ways I'm 40 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: going to separate myself. The education, the experience, and walking 41 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: the walk. I'm fifty three people. The guy ran with right, 42 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: and then I say ran with, traveled with, started with 43 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: and a phenomenal ultra runner, really smart. He's the one 44 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: who does all the logistics for these runs that we've 45 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: done now twice. Because I just like to do these things. 46 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm not a big one for the specifics the details. 47 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: He is. And so that's what today's podcast is about 48 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: to tell you all about, basically my race report, even 49 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: though it's not a race, and that's a really important 50 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: part of this experience is that a race. It's not organized. 51 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: We chose to do this on our own, as others 52 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: do as well, and there was no official start line 53 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: or start time or finish line. There's nothing to compare 54 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: to it, and that's what makes it so awesome. All right. 55 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: So this podcast, hope weeks like all the others, but 56 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: in a very specific way, hopefully entertains you, educate you 57 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: as well. You can learn from my successes as well 58 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: as my lessons learned, not failures, lessons learned and I 59 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: never stopped learning. Those of you who are runners at 60 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: whatever level can learn a lot from my successes and 61 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: my lessons learned. And for those of you who don't run, 62 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: hopefully it can be inspired to challenge yourself. Podcast I 63 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: just released I think it was last week on why 64 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: you Need a Missaggi. This was one of my miss 65 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: Aggies for this year. Challenge. All right, quick break, when 66 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: we come back my Grand Canyon Run race report, Take two. 67 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we are back talking about 68 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: my very recent Grand Canyon run, so recent that it's 69 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: it's it's a little it's a little hard to stand 70 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: right here and do this, but it's going down the 71 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: stairs that's the challenge, right, Even the up not as 72 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: bad as the down, And anyone who's run run uphill 73 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: downhill realizes that, right, And there's a scientific reason for that. 74 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I've talked about that the east centric contractions of your 75 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: muscles going downhill, your quads are essentially breaking, you know, 76 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: the breaks for your legs, and that beats the heck 77 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: out of your body. And that's one of the reasons 78 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: this run is so challenging because it's like running into 79 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: a bowl. Right you started, Depending on where you start, 80 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: let's say seven thousand feet, you drop down thousands and 81 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: thousands of feet right away, so downhill then you go flat. 82 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: So let's call it to make it simple. Seven miles downhill, 83 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: seven eight nine miles across depending on what route you take, 84 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: and then seven or eight back up, and then you 85 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: do it again, you go back and so that again. 86 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: For those of you who didn't listen to the original podcast, 87 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: have no idea what I'm talking about. You go to 88 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon and there's a handful of people who 89 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: have a bucket list challenge goal of running in the 90 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: Grand Canyon, and there's many ways to do it. There's 91 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: a Rim to Rim where you just run across and 92 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: I say, just let me take the word just out 93 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: of there, So anywhere from to about twenty four miles. 94 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: There's two main trails. The Bright Angel which is the 95 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: one I did last time, and that's a little longer 96 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: twenty four miles across, but a little less crazy on 97 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: the down as a result, so longer miles and less 98 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: steep incline as a result. But the one I did 99 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: this time was the South Kaibab, which is three miles 100 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: shorter across, but a faster ascent and descent. So catch 101 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: twenty two right. So many people their goal is to 102 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: do the Rim to Rim and you can hike that. 103 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: It can take about a day for most people if 104 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: you're walking, and then they have a bus I've never 105 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: done it this way, but they have a bus supposedly 106 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: that you can time it perfectly, and then you have 107 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: to go back. I think it takes I don't know, 108 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: four or five six hours or something like that to 109 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: get back around. But that's what some people do, the 110 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: Rim to Rim and then you can do the full 111 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: Rim to Rim to Rim, and there's people who do more, 112 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: by the way, but those are generally the two. They're 113 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: now called the R three and the R five I 114 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: just found out, which is easier to say than the 115 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: R two, R two R. But if you take the 116 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: Bright Angel Trail four miles across back forty total, that's 117 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: what I did last time, and it was insanely amazing. 118 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: I've done so many races around the world in so 119 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: many different formats, from triathlons to running races, to adventure 120 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: races and now these ultra marathons. Some of the ultramarathons 121 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: are organized. This is not there's just people who show up. 122 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: You get out there, you travel out. We flew from 123 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: the East coast to Phoenix, drove three and a half 124 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: hours hotel room, did that on Friday, got up Saturday 125 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: morning and ran and there was a handful of other 126 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: people there with us, and that's just kind of crazy. 127 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: When you start doing things like this. As you meet 128 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: other people who do it, like marathoners, will experience that 129 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: whatever your sport is, triathlons, whatever you're you're specific, that's 130 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: just my world. And then you start to think that 131 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: it's normal that everyone's doing it, and you realize no, 132 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: but there's other people who are doing this as well. 133 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: Generally they do it in groups of like two to four. 134 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: The person I travel with again is faster than I, 135 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: and I didn't want to make him wait for me. 136 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: His goal is to go fast, wants to see how 137 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: fast he can do it. So we start together and 138 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. We see each other as he 139 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: passes me coming back, and then we see each other 140 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: at the finish. So many people think it's a race, 141 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: it's not. Many people think that we are running together. 142 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: We are not. And that's important because even though there's 143 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: other people scattered on the trail, you may not see 144 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: a person for hours, and I will talk about what 145 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: happens because it did if you run into trouble. And 146 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: so this is a solo run for me and for him, 147 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: and that makes it so incredibly special because it's so 148 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: challenging mentally and physically to think you're gonna be out 149 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: there in the Grand Canyon by yourself running across and back, 150 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: and it scares the heck out of you. And that's 151 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: what makes it so amazing. I'm just gonna abuse those 152 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: two words over and over. It's amazing incredible, all right. 153 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: So now you get the general idea, hopefully if you 154 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: didn't know what the rim to rim to Rim is, 155 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: and now'll give you a specifics. So, like I said, 156 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: we flew out Friday early Friday morning. He's got the 157 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, five six hour flight. But the great thing 158 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: is as you fly west, you get the time is 159 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: on your side, especially when you cut it that close, 160 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: and that's what works out really well for us. So, kid, 161 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: did we get into town. I think we got an 162 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: earlier sometime in the afternoon on Friday afternoon and checked 163 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: into the same hotel right outside the canyon. It's real 164 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: tough to get hotel rooms. Uh. The guy I run 165 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: with does all the the booking of everything, so he's 166 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: telling me, like the ones in the park like crazy, 167 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: and we saw so many tours when we did this 168 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: last it was during COVID and so there were no tourists. 169 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Foreign tourists couldn't come, and now was filled. You know, 170 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: you heard French and Spanish and Italian everywhere, which is 171 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: very cool. So stayed in the actually did two hotels 172 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: last time, but we stayed in the same one we 173 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: started in last time, which is just outside the canyon. 174 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: Went to the same restaurant, got the same plane pasta. 175 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: I had a huge, um, huge dish of spaghetti and 176 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: meatballs and bread. Keeping it simple. Loading up on the carbs. Yes, 177 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: you have to go into these events with your fuel 178 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: tank at the top. And I actually for the couple 179 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: of days prior eight a heck of a lot more carbs. 180 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: So there you go. For those of you who are 181 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: endurance athletes, runners, whatever your sport is, if you're exercising 182 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: for a long period of time, yes you still carve up. 183 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: You need to make sure that your energy stores are 184 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: topped off. Carbs are our friend, especially if you're doing 185 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: something like running all day. And so I did what 186 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: we did last time. I stuck with what worked right, 187 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: same hotel, same dinner. Uh. And then the beautiful thing 188 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: again with the time change, is we tried to get 189 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: we did get to bed super early because we were 190 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: getting up three am. Three fifteen am. All right, So 191 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: what I did the night before is always important, right 192 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: on so many levels. So eight dinner, went back to 193 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: the hotel basically said to the to Bill that, uh, 194 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: you know, CEO, what time you want to start? He's 195 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: always making the executive decisions with all that stuff, so 196 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: he said, you know, out the door at four am. 197 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, good to go. And that 198 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: meant getting up around three fifteen to make sure I 199 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: could get everything done that I needed to. It's a 200 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: little more time than I need, but something inevitably goes wrong, right, 201 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: So forty five minutes pretty perfect for me, especially to 202 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: eat something because that's important too. Even though you carve 203 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: up the night before, the breakfast is super important for 204 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: many people. This is so highly individualized, and that will 205 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: also be a theme of the show and all shows. Right, 206 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: But when it comes to nutrition, super individualized doesn't mean 207 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: a carb is not a carb and protein isn't uh, 208 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't do what it does. But we all experiment 209 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: with different things and see what works for us and 210 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: then we stick with it. But carbs, by and large people, 211 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: regardless of the new stuff you here is what you 212 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: want to fuel up your body with. Alright, So back 213 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: from dinner and then it's preparing. So I want everything 214 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: as prepared as ready to go. So I wake up 215 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: in the morning and I can't forget anything. Really, everything 216 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: I can do the night before, I do everything. So 217 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: that includes packing a ridiculous pack. Right, and if you 218 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: want to see that, I put yes on my Instagram 219 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: account Tom h Fit. You can see so much of this. 220 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: I will remind you at the end. Um, you can 221 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: see what I packed the night before. Took a picture 222 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: of that on the the bed, two beds and the 223 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: other bed. I just use as my staging area for 224 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: all of this stuff. Be there's a lot of stuff. 225 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: It's not a race. There are no aid stations. That's 226 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: frightening to someone like me who has spent decades doing 227 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: marathons and uh, you know iron Man triathlons where you're 228 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: paying a lot of money to have it totally supported 229 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: all the sports, drink and fuel you want at the 230 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: perfect spaced intervals. Iron Man, the brand generally does it phenomenally. 231 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, every hour on the bike, basically you're gonna 232 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: hit another aid station. And during the run. You know, 233 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: it's every couple of miles, not even and so for 234 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: this you gotta bring everything. You gotta bring everything. And 235 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: also there's no dropping out. In order to drop out, 236 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: what do you do? You know, if you're on the race, 237 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: and some of these races are multiple loops, many people, 238 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: if they're having issues, they drop out after a first 239 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: loop or second loop or first leg, whatever it is. 240 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: You can't do that here. So that's what makes this 241 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: so unique. And I need unique by the way I 242 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: collect experience is and it's rare for me to repeat 243 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: certain things. But that's why this was different from the 244 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: get go. We weren't going to do the Bright Angel Trail. 245 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: We were going to do the South Kaipop, which is 246 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: twenty one miles across, a little shorter, a lot steeper 247 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: at the start, and then it hooks up with what 248 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: we have done before, so you basically start differently and 249 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: then you end up on the same trail to go 250 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: up the to the North Rim and then back down. 251 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: So packing food and hydration and what I have after 252 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: getting into this couple of years ago. The Ultra Marathon 253 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: is the longer distance events is a running vest and 254 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: that's got to carry everything people, and these are phenomenal. 255 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: And I remember back in the day when I would 256 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: see people with even the belts, even the handheld I'm like, 257 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that must be so so much of 258 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: a pain, you know, heavy to carry. Let's not feel good. 259 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: These vests are amazing at holding what you need to. Yes, 260 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: there's weight to them, but they don't bounce around. And 261 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't possibly do it without it. Because I was 262 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: loading in just over five thousand calories of fuel and 263 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: that was gels that was semi solid blocks is what 264 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: they're called. So gels. I had about fifteen gels and 265 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: that's a hundred calories apiece. I had blocks I was 266 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: going to try to avoid brand names wherever I can 267 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: um and that was about two hundred calories. I think 268 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: it's six of those, so six by two hundred. And 269 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: then I had a sports drink powder, which is essential 270 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: not just for calories, but more for the sodium the electrolytes, 271 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: and I'll get back to that. Had six packets of those, 272 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: so that's another twelve hundred calories because about a hundred 273 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: per serving in each pack. And then I had some bars, 274 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: six bars at two fifty so those bars were like 275 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: the most workally dense thing I had. I prefer fluid first, 276 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: gels second, and solid third. And that's most people. Your body, 277 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: especially when you're running, but when it's exercising, doesn't want 278 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: to have to digest stuff. And that's why it's so individual, 279 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: and that's why you have to experiment, and that's why 280 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: it keeps changing. Just when you think you've figured out 281 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: your nutrition plan, it might not work, and that it's 282 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: because of a variety of factors, including the heat and 283 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: many other things. So you never quite figured out. You 284 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: come close, and you get really better at it. But 285 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: I was starting with five thousand calories. And let me 286 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: give you a last little math. I'm not a big 287 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: math person, but this is where it's crucial, and I 288 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: love that. Actually, my son had a math project where 289 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: he said he had to ask interview someone about how 290 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: they use math in their daily lives, and this was 291 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: one the example I gave. And so for me, it's 292 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: I need flee three hundred calories per hour and this 293 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: run can take gosh, I wasn't gonna do it in 294 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: twelve but let's say twelve to seventeen hours. And if 295 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: you slow down and you're you know, taking breaks and 296 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: things like that, you know, quick bathroom breaks and stuff 297 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: like that. And this is it's not a race. You 298 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: can't go too fast. I mean there are people that 299 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: do obviously, But I had extra fuel just in case, 300 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: and that's really important because you want to run out 301 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: of fuel as I did. Uh so five thousand calories 302 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: and then I have so much. I had a head lamp, 303 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: which I had to start with because we started in 304 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: the dark. I have extra batteries, super important in case, 305 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, you finished in the dark, which I did 306 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: last time. Spent three or four hours in the dark 307 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: last time, finishing poles, running poles, which I had never 308 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: used before the first Grand Canyon run. I definitely needed 309 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: for this one, and I would never do this without them. 310 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: But let me say this, all used them the first time, 311 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: didn't use them this second time, and that blew me 312 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: away because coming out of the canyon and even going 313 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: downhill sometimes they saved my life and I can't imagine 314 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: climbing out without them. But different things work for different people, 315 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: and that is such an important part of this whole show, 316 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: not just this episode Fitness Disrupted in general. I give 317 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: you things that are based on science. I give you 318 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: things that I have tried as an experiment of one. 319 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: I will tell you what's worked for clients over the years, 320 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: and then you figure out what works for you. I 321 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: carried poles. Bill didn't. At the end, I said, are 322 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: you sad that you didn't bring them? He goes no, 323 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: I said, I could not have done it without it. 324 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: So that is just one example of you do what 325 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: works for you. You'll mean people say, oh, no, you 326 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: have to do this, and fitness, you have to wear 327 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 1: these shoes, you have to do this. Oh you have 328 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: a foot pain, you have to get inserts. No, might 329 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: work many many layers to all this stuff. All right, 330 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: all right, quick break, when we come back, let's just 331 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: get into it. Let's get into the run. All right, 332 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: quick break. When we come back, am getting up four am, 333 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: hitting the trail, we'll be right back, and we are 334 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: back talking about my grand Canyon run. I'm still a 335 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: little out of it, as I said in the intro, 336 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: takes a while to recover, not just physically but mentally. 337 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: It's scruling and and the psychological part is it's more 338 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: of what I do it for than the physical. And 339 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: anyone who's done something like this, and at any level, 340 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: whatever challenges you mentally and physically knows what I'm talking about. 341 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: And when you start something like this and you finish 342 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: something like this, you're a different person. Then that's why 343 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: I challenge you to do something like this, And that's 344 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: why I really don't like the diets and the programs 345 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: that make you feel bad about yourself because you did 346 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: what they said to do and you didn't get the 347 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: long term results you were promised. We'll get back to that, 348 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: all right. So I went through most of I think 349 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting anything. Uh well, A lot of people ask 350 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: how you carry the fluid. So I have to sixteen 351 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: ounce soft bottle soft flasks that sit on my chest 352 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: and they have these great little tubes that come off them, 353 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: So you just put pop that tube in your mouth, 354 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: right chest, left chest, and you've got sixteen ounces on 355 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: either side. Behind me, I have a huge reservoir for fluid. 356 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: I didn't fill that up, and I'll tell you why 357 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: in a second. I did the last time, and that 358 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: made the pack really really heavy. But for this run, 359 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: there are two stops to um what do you want 360 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: to call them? They're not aid stations, but they're stations 361 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: along the way. First ones about seven and a half 362 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: miles where there's water Phantom Ranch, and then eight and 363 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: a half miles after that there's a place called Manzanita. 364 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: When you take the South Kaibab Trail. Actually when you 365 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: take both, it's just the starts a little different. And 366 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: so that's where you fill up, refill with your water 367 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: and with my sports powder. I would mix the powder 368 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: in with the water, and I started with the sports drink. 369 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: I choose sports drink over water until I can't, until 370 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: I can't literally stomach it anymore. Because the sports drink 371 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: is giving me fluid, It's giving me energy through the sugar. People, 372 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: the sugar is good for this. This is what it's for. 373 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: And the electrolytes the salt, which is crucial to me. 374 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: All right, And so I started with the two chest 375 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: ones filled and then I knew that I would refill 376 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: in seven and a half miles. All right, cut to 377 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: the chase now, right, So am get up good to go. 378 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: I brought oatmeal with me the night before. I put 379 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: it in a cup. I have to do nothing other 380 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: than things that I couldn't do the night before. So 381 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: the oatmeal brought it with me. Plain oatmeal, super simple, 382 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: slow releasing carbohydrates, easy on my stomach, and I throw 383 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: water in it. I throw it in the microwave for 384 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: one minute in the hotel room. Boom done. I've been 385 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: at places where there is no microwave, so what do 386 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: you do? Use the coffee maker, put water in, no coffee, 387 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: heated up, boom. And there's been times where they didn't 388 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: have that, and I just did it cold. Not a 389 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: big deal. Many people aren't fans. But it's just fuel. 390 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: It's just fuel, all right. So did that and then 391 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: I coded myself. This is important because chaffing, as I 392 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: wrote about uh in both of my you know, the 393 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Marathon Method book in the Twelve Weeks Tray Athlete, chafing 394 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: is an endurance athletes worst enemy, right. You get those 395 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: blisters and they just haunt you, especially if they come 396 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: on early enough an event like this or you know, yeah, 397 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: in an event like this, even though to not an 398 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: event per se, but you don't want that to happen. 399 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: So over time you realize where your hot points are. 400 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, last time I had major chafing right underneath 401 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: my horry monitor band, right in the middle of my chest. 402 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: And I know that women often get that from coaching 403 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: them years ago. I should have kind of thought about 404 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: that with sports bras and stuff during marathons and events 405 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: like that. So I coded myself my toes, outside of 406 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: my toes especially, and other spots on my body, even 407 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: upper body where my arms swing and things like that. 408 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Why don't I tell you this because, as I will 409 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: say shortly, I had no chafing. That's unheard of for me. 410 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: So I'm getting better at that. We learn over time. 411 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Experience teaches us so much. Okay, all right, good do 412 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: my oatmeal. Put everything on my water bottles by the way, 413 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: with the sports drink already done, I just have to 414 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: put them in the pack. So every single thing I 415 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: could do the night before I did, because I've forgotten things. 416 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: You get up, it's three o'clock in the morning, granted 417 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: at six am back home, and I'm only a day 418 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: into traveling. But to every single thing the night before 419 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: you can. It goes for just about everything, all right. 420 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: This goes for getting up early to work out. I 421 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: did that podcast. Your brain knows when the alarm goes off. 422 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: If you're just able to pop up and you've laid 423 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: out your clothes and your sneakers and whatever else you need, 424 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: and you're that much more likely to do it and 425 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: not hit snooze. All right, So I got everything ready, 426 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: got out to the car, jumped in, drove just a 427 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: couple of miles pitch dark, and part we had to 428 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: walk because Grand Canon a little tricky on parking and 429 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: things like that. So walked a couple of miles to 430 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: the start, headlamps lighting our way and by the way, 431 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: what info here? Don't want to bore you with too 432 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: much of it. Degrees at the start, which freaked me 433 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: out because I did look the night before and actually 434 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: got backtrack, sorry skipping around still a little out of 435 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: it really important the night before, how did I prepare? Also, 436 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I had my pack totally done. I got like, you know, 437 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to bed at about was my goal, 438 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I'm gonna watch a 439 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: video because everything is out there. People. This is so important, 440 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: so many levels as well, because I had never run 441 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: the South Kaibab trail before, and Bill and I start together, 442 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: but I have no sense of direction, as I talked 443 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: about in the last Grand Canyon Run podcast, and he 444 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: does so sure enough, I google South kaibab Rim to 445 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: Rim to Rim run videos and I watched a couple 446 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: and they're amazing. People brought go pros with them, edited together, 447 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: narrated it, and so now I see where I need 448 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: to make turns and things like that, what I'm gonna 449 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: experience that I didn't experience last time, and that is 450 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: really mentally helpful. The day of and when I got 451 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: to those spots that I had never been to before, 452 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: many times in the dark, I've already seen it, I 453 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: knew what to do. So we have so much available 454 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: to us thanks to technology. I mean, how many times 455 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: have I talked about that, fitness tech, all that kind 456 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: of stuff, And so I took advantage of that and 457 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: I felt better about the directions and knowing where to go. 458 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: But let me say this, it also freaked me out. 459 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: It freaked me out. A lot shows all about me 460 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: being as honest as possible, and I've done a lot 461 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: of races. I've already done a lot of events, and 462 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: I did this one time prior and this was to 463 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: be shorter instead of but it freaked me out because 464 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: running in the dark isn't my favorite thing with a 465 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: head lamp on, and if anyone has seen what it 466 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: looks like at the Grand Canyon when you're dropping in 467 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: their cliffs where you fall two ft or more or more, 468 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: and they're narrow. It's challenging, to say the least. And 469 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: so even though I watched those videos and felt good 470 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: about navigating, I actually sat there the night before, right 471 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: before I went to bed, and thought, maybe I won't 472 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: do it. I've done a lot, and I've done this before. 473 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: I did this event before. It's amazing, but it was 474 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: really hard, one of the hardest things I've ever done 475 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: in my life, so longest I had ever exercised in 476 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: my life the last time I've done it, So I knew, 477 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: as amazing as it was, how much I was gonna suffer. 478 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: So I thought, I don't have to do it. I'm 479 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: perfectly fine with flying out here and yeah, sitting around 480 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: in the sun. Well, Bill goes and runs, but of 481 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: course I didn't. But we all have doubts, no matter 482 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: how many events, no matter how many things we do, 483 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: And I just want you to know that that's normal, 484 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: especially when you're doing something that's really challenging. It's like 485 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: jumping out of a plane. You're not a little scared 486 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: you got problems. We all have problems when we're doing 487 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: things like this. I always say it's therapy in a 488 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: in a sense. But yeah, So I went to bed 489 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: and I thought, we'll see woke up. Good to go. 490 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: All right, So back to where I was, we're walking 491 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: to the start. We get there. Wow, I'm getting the 492 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: feelings of those butterflies right now that I had just 493 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: thinking about starting, because you know what's ahead. You know 494 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: how challenging it's gonna be. You've on this before. It's different, 495 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: but you've done it before, and so you're super excited 496 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: and you're just super freaked out. And four thirty pretty 497 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: much on the nose. Bill and I look at each other. 498 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: We're right at the trailhead and I said, see you 499 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: see you tonight, Well see you along the route, but 500 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, back at the where we started. Right there, 501 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: that's where we would end up meeting. We'd see each 502 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: other as we passed along the way, as he was 503 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: coming back because he's faster. But that's it. We start together. 504 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: I see his head lamp just disappear into the darkness. 505 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: I just say that out loud. Freaks me out. Ah, 506 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: And then we're off And so it's pitch dark. Now, 507 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: what was different about this one? Even starting at four 508 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: thirty The last time we ran it was May, and 509 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: so this time it wasn't gonna be as dark as long, 510 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: and we did start a little earlier. I think we 511 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: started three am last time, and so it has about 512 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: an hour of me running in the pitch dark four 513 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: ft you know, trail at most parts really steep drop off. 514 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: The great thing about running in the dark is if 515 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: you don't look to your left or you're right, depending 516 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: on where you're running, you don't know how crazy it is. 517 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: So that's a blessing. And then the most amazing part happens. 518 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: The sun starts coming up. It's incredible, and that's where 519 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: you go. I know, I am suffering. I don't know 520 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: how many of you listening have been to the Grand Canyon. 521 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: I had not been until I ran across it the 522 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: first time. It is mind boggling. It's overwhelming. It's I've 523 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: been to many places around the world that are spectacular, 524 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: and you know, this takes your breath away. And so 525 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: running far and probably about an hour, and it's slow 526 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: going down, slower than you would think, so you know, 527 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: not quite seven miles yet wasn't that phantom ranch yet. 528 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: But the sun's coming up, and it's just this is 529 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: why you do it. And so I'm feeling good. I'm hydrating, 530 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm taking in my gaels, I got a plan. Everything's working. 531 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, twenty degrees at the start. I 532 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: started with a long sleeve shirt over a short sleeved 533 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: shirt with arm warmers, so basically two layers. And I 534 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: knew that I was going to take that top shirt 535 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: off and just stuff it in my pack. Really lightweight 536 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: one from a race, so I think it was a 537 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: marathon shirt. And uh, about half hour in, I took 538 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: it off and I said, gloves on. It was cold 539 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: at the start, but not as cold as I would 540 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: have thought. I'm not a big fan of the cold anymore. 541 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: I've trained in it and raced in it for years. 542 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: But about yeah, half hour forty five, maybe an hour in, 543 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: I took the top layer off, stuffed into my pack. 544 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: Now was just t shirt arm warmers that I eventually 545 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: rolled down to my wrists. Arm warmers are amazing and 546 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: and lake gloves. And it was gonna get up to 547 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: ninety four so degrees to degrees, all right, So feeling good. 548 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: Feeling good. And this is what I have learned to 549 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: do from all these races, is just being the moment, 550 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: so you don't think ahead, as hard as that could be. 551 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: You should go how do I feel right now? And 552 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: you want to enjoy it? And I know so many 553 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: of these concepts I'll talk about in these race reports. 554 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Event reports are so simple, but I say it all 555 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: the time. The answers are simple. It's the application that's difficult, 556 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: and so being in the moment and just enjoying it, saying, 557 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm running in the Grand Canyon. How 558 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: lucky am I? They have fortunate to be healthy enough 559 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: to do this, and at fifty three, how lucky am I? 560 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: And also I've worked for it, by the way, to 561 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: feel as good as I do. And that even surprised 562 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: me because as the day progressed and the miles clicked off, 563 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: I was still feeling great, no blisters my back. You know, 564 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 1: I'm carrying a pack. I expected more. Last time. I 565 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: definitely felt more. Granted it was heavier, but suffice it 566 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: to say, the body felt amazing. And that goes for 567 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: muscular lye, that goes for energy wise. You know, there's 568 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: a couple of times. If you do this enough, you 569 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: go I need a little bit more, you know, start 570 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: to get light headed, but you feel like, yeah, the 571 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: energy stores are going down, so boom. I would take 572 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: another gel or block or some sports drink or all 573 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: the above usually and you're good to go. So I 574 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: went through that first aid uh eight station. So so 575 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: many races I've done. It's so weird. You know, it's 576 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: a Phantom ranch, which is just a ranch, a bunch 577 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: of buildings. There's some toilets. There's actually a little store 578 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: and they sell lemonade. I'll get back to that, but 579 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: that's about seven and a half miles in. That's where 580 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: you're fuel so fill up your water bottles, use the 581 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: bathroom if you need to boom. Then you're off. There 582 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: was another eight miles and so that's basically you know, 583 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: five three five miles down down hill. Then it slowly 584 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: levels off to Phantom and now you're running through the 585 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: canyon another eight and a half miles to the next stop, 586 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: and the whole way the most amazing run, feeling amazing. 587 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: I saw a couple of people, but not many. A 588 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: couple other people, some hikers who already in the in 589 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: the canyon. You know that you can camp there one 590 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: or well, maybe four other runners, but generally you know, 591 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: two together. And then it was just me, and it's 592 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: the sound of the Colorado River, and it's the sound 593 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: of your footsteps, and it's the sound of my poles, 594 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: you know, as they say, pickpock pickpock in the in 595 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: the dirt, and you run across the Colorado River and 596 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: you run through a couple of tunnels and it's magical. 597 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: And it's getting hotter. It's now eating up. So I've 598 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: got the T shirt on, I've got the arm warmer 599 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: rolled down, and I'm going this is gonna be a 600 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: hot one. It's gonna be brutal, much hotter than the 601 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: first time. I was feeling great. I was feeling great, 602 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: and then I started having an idea, a choice, because 603 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: these are all when you're in your head. You're just 604 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: in your head. There's no there's nothing like spending twelve 605 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: plus hours. Last time, it was seventeen just by yourself, 606 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: talking to next to no one other than the occasional 607 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, passer by, which is maybe every hour two hours. 608 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: At that it's just you, and it's unbelievably especially and 609 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: I feel sad because so many people come remotely close 610 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: to experiencing things like this. You know, it's to work, 611 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: it's to school, it's just there's no downtime, and it's amazing. 612 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: And so as I'm running and I'm approaching mile fifteen 613 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: and a half, basically that last stop before you climb 614 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: up and out of the canyon up to the north 615 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: rim and then back down, I thought, you know what, 616 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm doing that part and you 617 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: wait a minute, Tim, You're not gonna finish. You're not 618 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: gonna do what you set out to do. I get it, 619 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: I get it. But I thought, you know what, I 620 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: feel so good thirty two miles instead of forty one, 621 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: and that nine miles is exponentially hard. I know what 622 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: it was. I've done it before. I've already done forty 623 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: And so I was debating, do I run to this Manzanita, stop, refill, 624 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: and turn back around and go back. I went back 625 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: and forth for a while, and again, always honest social 626 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: media friends, they're like, wait, you went there to run 627 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: across and back. Well, yeah, things change. And so this 628 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: is the most important part, I would argue, at least 629 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: for me, of this podcast is what I think is 630 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: what do I need? What did I need? Did I 631 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 1: need to go to the top again? Did I need 632 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: to go Oh yeah, I did run to room to 633 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: room again, not that day. What I needed was to 634 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: enjoy it in a different way. And the forty eight 635 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: mile one I suffered, and there was a lot of 636 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: slow running and a lot of walking up steep parts, 637 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: and that last section up and out and then back 638 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: down to get across for the first time, that's just 639 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: hiking straight up and then running straight down for the 640 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: most part. So what do I need. I want to 641 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: enjoy this. I want to have a great run and 642 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: a fifty k thirty two miles. It's pretty dark good 643 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: And I also knew the heat. I also knew there 644 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: were factors that we're going to come into play. And 645 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: so as I approached this final stop where I would 646 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: have to reload with the water and actually load up 647 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: my backpack the back flask, the huge one with water 648 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 1: because there was no water at the top. Least that's 649 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: what they told us. It changed, but it was going 650 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: to be a different nine miles. And so I got 651 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 1: to that station and there was actually like twenty people, 652 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: so there was more people that started, and they went 653 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: down the other trail, the bright Angel that we had 654 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: started on last time. And when you run uphill like that, 655 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna pass people and then trade off 656 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: and slow down, and you're gonna be around people more. 657 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: And I thought, you know what, it's the final thing 658 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: to help me make my decision. I thought, I'm banging left, 659 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm going back, and all those people are gonna be 660 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: ahead of me or behind me rather and I'm gonna 661 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: go ahead and I'm just gonna enjoy this like never before. 662 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: And it was the greatest decision I had made in 663 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: a long time of racing and doing events, because it's 664 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: what I needed, it's what I wanted. I had already done. 665 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: I knew what that experience was. I'd been to the 666 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: top already, and I wanted it a different experience. I 667 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: wanted to run more, I wanted to run faster, and 668 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: I did and it was amazing. And so when everyone 669 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: else turned right, that was at that stop. I went 670 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: left and I spent the next see let me do 671 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: the math here, three or four hours all by myself, 672 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: running and enjoying the canyon and in pure bliss. And 673 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: it was different from the last time, because by that 674 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: point I had gone up and back and I couldn't 675 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: run as fast and remotely that I was doing this 676 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: time because they was so beaten up from doing that 677 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: nine mile climb up to almost it was eight thousand 678 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: feet eight thousand feet and then back down. So we 679 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: make choices, my choice, and that's what I love about 680 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: these type of events. Listen. I love the organized events too, 681 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: and I love going fast. I've accomplished a lot of 682 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: those goals most you know, sub three hour marathon, subten 683 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: hour iron Man one, a small marathon, all those things 684 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: have been there. And I would argue that's the problem 685 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: is so many of the people I know who I 686 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: raced with, who don't necessarily do what they need or 687 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: what their body needs or what's healthy for them. And 688 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: I want what's healthy for my body and healthy for 689 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: my mind. That's it. And so if you think that's 690 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: making an excuse, so be it. But I would argue, 691 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: especially with social media and times being posted and things 692 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: like that, and caring what other people think about the 693 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: choices you make, that's a huge problem. And so I 694 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: had the greatest mile run, I say, because the wheels 695 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: fell off. The wheels fell off bad, and that's a 696 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 1: really important lesson to all right, let's take on more 697 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: break when we come back and pull it all together 698 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: and finished this all up talking about my Grand Canyon 699 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: run six miles of I can't believe how good I 700 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: feel at fifty three running in the Grand Canyon. And 701 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: then boom, we'll be right back all right, talking about 702 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: running across the Grand Case. There's so much here? Is 703 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: this so complicated? And I've said I think I said 704 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: it in the last Grand Canyon Run podcast. I don't 705 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 1: write race reports, or didn't write race reports like most 706 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: people do, and you know, tryathlons and marathons, and I 707 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 1: always wondered why and and never liked as personal it's personal. 708 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: And then and then you realize, like I don't like listen. 709 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just especially when you're 710 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: starting out, there's a lot of excuses, right, this one wrong, 711 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: this one wrong, okay, But this podcast has allowed me 712 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: a different medium, in a different way to do this, 713 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: and I love now this being the second time doing 714 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: this right after when it's fresh, when I'm still literally 715 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 1: sore from the run. And so that was the theme, 716 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: like what do I need? And I want you to 717 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: think about that when you're doing things, when you set 718 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: goals for yourself too. It's never linear. And I am 719 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: not saying quit people, it's the lad don't misinterpret. I 720 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: say get what you want and do things differently. That 721 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: was huge for me. Been there, done that, and thought 722 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: I was gonna do it again. But it wasn't enough 723 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: variation for me. And there was other factors. The heat. 724 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: I knew. Listen, I could potentially run into problems. All right, 725 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: I gotta move on because this is like So I 726 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: turned back, had the most amazing four or five hours. 727 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: Then the wheel fell off. Ridiculously hot. I sweat out sodium. 728 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: I sweat out salt like you wouldn't believe. If you 729 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: want to see what it looks like, go to my 730 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: Instagram account. I could not believe my black shirt how 731 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: much salt was on not just the front but the back. 732 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: So go to tom h Fit if you want to 733 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: take a look and see exactly what it looks like 734 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: to sweat out so much sodium. All right, I think 735 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: I was experiencing some heat stroke. I was super lightheaded 736 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: as I started climbing back out. So I got through 737 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: Phantom Ranch. By the way, I'm just going to skip 738 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: ahead a little bit here. Uh stopped the Fandom Ranch 739 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: stow and they had that store. Let me just say that. 740 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: And I stopped and had lemonade because everyone said you 741 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: have to do the lemonade if you're running across, and 742 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: I didn't do it the first time, or maybe we 743 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't open. I didn't get there in time. Anyway, 744 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: these runners, when you read and talk to other runners, 745 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: they say, yes, you have to try the lemonade at 746 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: Phantom Ranch, especially if you've been running for hours and 747 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,839 Speaker 1: hours on end. It's the greatest thing you've ever had. 748 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,720 Speaker 1: It's five dollars and cents for a cup, although refills 749 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: are dollar. So I did because I don't care about 750 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: the time, and I need the fluid and I want 751 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: the experience, and so did that. So the last five 752 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: miles was brutal, just like it was the first time, 753 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: but totally different as well. So first time it was dark, 754 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: it was snowing, and I was beaten up, senseless my 755 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: legs and everything my body because I had gone the 756 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: full forty eight. This time it was the heat and 757 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: the speed in the sodium, and so cramped unlike I'd 758 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: ever cramped calf cramps, quad cramps, abductor abductor cramps. I 759 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: just stop fine shade every fifteen minutes. I didn't think 760 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: I could finish, but you have to. And there would 761 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: be hikers because now I'm getting close where people had 762 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: walked down into the canyon, you know, a couple of 763 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 1: hours and then would walk back out. And there was 764 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: one father and son who ended up next to me 765 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: as I was I can't imagine what I looked like 766 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: trying to stop my full body seizure. Basically at that point, 767 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: because I was out of sodium, and I bring salt 768 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: tablets with me, by the way people salt stick things 769 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: like that, wasn't enough and I lost one one fell. 770 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: So suffice it to say, I went from oh my gosh, 771 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: I can't believe I feel this good too, Oh my gosh, 772 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna get out of here. 773 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: And that's the opposite of what I've talked about, what 774 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: I've experienced in most events. It's that you're doing a race, 775 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: you're doing an iron Man or something, and you're you go, 776 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I can't believe how bad I feel. 777 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: And that's the lesson. As you learned you can feel, 778 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: so you just keep moving forward and gets better. Well, 779 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: yes and no, sometimes yes, sometimes you know, and this 780 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: is life. There are obstacles, and that's why I do 781 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: these things, as crazy as that sounds. Do I want 782 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: to be in suffering like that? No, but I'm not 783 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: going to go through you know, the couple of hours 784 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: that I dealt with this, with the cramping and the 785 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 1: trying to take in the little bit of salt, but 786 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: I was running low on fluids, and so suffices to say, 787 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 1: for the next couple of hours I suffered and did 788 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: not think that I was gonna make it out because 789 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 1: the body was seizing up, the legs would not work, 790 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: and then a hand started cramping. I've never had hands cramping, 791 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,720 Speaker 1: and that was obviously a factor of using the poles. 792 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: But I did it, and it took forever, and it 793 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: was a new level level of suffering that I had 794 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: not experienced in that way. And I know somebody going, 795 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: why would you possibly do this? Why is that fun? 796 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: Because when you get out, when you finally get out, 797 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: and by the way, like three times, I thought it 798 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: was at the top, and this is the steeper part. 799 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: Even Bill who's seasoned ultra guy was like, that was 800 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 1: the hardest climb out that he had done. My tone 801 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: swelled up, said like heat stroke, signs of that. So 802 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,959 Speaker 1: I was finding shade. I was stopping for a couple 803 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: of minutes to recover, watch my heart rate go down. 804 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: The goal is just to finish people. It is not 805 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: a race, and I don't want to, as crazy as 806 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: it sounds, hurt myself. And so you learned the techniques, 807 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: you know that you need to to finish to get 808 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: through that obstacle. And it seemed like an eternity every 809 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 1: time you turn their switchbacks and you look up and 810 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: you go, oh my gosh, and then you stop looking 811 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: up because you can't believe how much farther you have 812 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: to go. And when it's that's steep, it's just brutal. 813 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: It's basically if you do step ups for exercise, it's 814 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: five miles of step ups and there's sections where if 815 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:30,879 Speaker 1: you slip, you've got problems. But I finished. I finished quick, 816 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: couple of points. At one point I stopped before the 817 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: insanity started, right before the insanity started. Because I've been 818 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: at so many races around the world and events where 819 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: people just go fast and they look around like New Zealand, 820 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: South Korea, Australia, South Africa, Brazil, and I get it again. 821 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: You're there to race, You're there to race, and I've 822 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: been there, but I always want to experience where I 823 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: am and take it all in. And again, this isn't 824 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: a race. It was even easier to do those type 825 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: of things like stop. And at one point I stopped 826 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: and just sat on this cliff looking at the most 827 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: amazing view I've ever seen, and I experienced silence like 828 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 1: I had never experienced. I understand the term deafening silence. 829 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: It was actually unnerving. The wind would come and go 830 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: during the run. The wind had stopped, so there's no 831 00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: sound in your ear of the wind. There was not 832 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: a bug, be a bird. The river was way down below, 833 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: couldn't hear it. And it was spectacular. And those are 834 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 1: the moments I take away, not only collecting experiences, collecting 835 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: moments and as crazy as it sounds, that moment of 836 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: silence that was unlike anything I had ever experienced and witnessed. 837 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, as I was looking out on with the insane, 838 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: excruciating pain of the cramping, I want both. I want both. 839 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,959 Speaker 1: It's that purification, the miss Oggi that I talked about 840 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: in the fifth tip, because when you get out, you 841 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: realize how strong you are, and all of those little 842 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,399 Speaker 1: things that seemed like big things in life are no 843 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: longer remotely closed. I had a couple of incidents on 844 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: the plane, crazy people, all that kind of it doesn't matter. 845 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,800 Speaker 1: You realize what matters, and then when you experience setback, 846 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: they're not You're like, you're kidding me. I was stuck 847 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: in the canyon with degrees, ran out of water than 848 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: sports drink and was cramping up and I had, you know, 849 00:51:52,760 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: hours more to go, hours hours final twist because I 850 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: didn't go up the final climb. I was ahead of 851 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: my running partner. We usually see each other on the 852 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,440 Speaker 1: way back. He usually finishes ahead of me. I'm at 853 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: the top waiting for him for the first time. Now. 854 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: This guy is seasoned professional, as I said, like carries everything, 855 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: like has just knows what he's doing. Consummate professional. He 856 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: texts me, which is he's gotta you know that you 857 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: really have no cell service until you're just a couple 858 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: of miles from the top, and then it's sketchy at best. 859 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: It basically says he was stopping just to, you know, 860 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: gather himself, eat some stuff, and then he was gonna 861 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: be out in an hour. And then he texts me, 862 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: I just hit s OS on my garment. I'm having 863 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: an asthma attack. Crazy, and so here I am. You know, 864 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: Run thirty two suffered immeasurably. I think it took like 865 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: twelve and a half hours. So now we're coming towards sunset. 866 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 1: And I spent the next five hours dealing with park 867 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: rangers and helping him get out. And here's the thing. 868 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: They don't take a t v s or motorcycles down 869 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: in the canyon. They don't even come get you with 870 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: a mule or anything like or a horse. You either camp, 871 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: They come down to you and tent and a sleeping bag, 872 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 1: make sure you're warm, and then get you out in 873 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,919 Speaker 1: the morning, or you come out. And Bill came out, 874 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,720 Speaker 1: and so he was prepared. He had everything he needed, 875 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: and just where I thought I was done, more stuff happens. 876 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: And it wasn't anything he had done wrong. If anything, 877 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: he was so covered with everything he needed when that 878 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: emergency happened, A lot of people would have had what 879 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 1: he had, including the garment device and a handful of 880 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: other things emergency blanket, you go, I'm not gonna bring that. 881 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: I won't need it until you do. And so just 882 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 1: another point that things happen, and they continue to happen, 883 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: and you just deal with them, and that makes the 884 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: event that much more special, as crazy as it sounds, 885 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: because not only did you accomplish something, you know, another 886 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: obstacle was thrown at you and you just you just deal. 887 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 1: And that's what these events and that's what these miss 888 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: aggies teach us. Just be in the moment. What do 889 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: you need to do? What do you need to do 890 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: in that moment? You need to enjoy it, and I 891 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: think about what your friends are gonna think, family is 892 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: gonna think about your how fast you go or what 893 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: you accomplished, what you said you were going to do 894 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: and what you did. You're in control and things happen, 895 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: and so focus on the good when you're in the moment, 896 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 1: don't focus on what's ahead, and just keep moving forward 897 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: and challenge yourself. All right, I'm tired. It's like one 898 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: of the greatest lines and Forrest gumpany what he just 899 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: stops and says, I'm tired to think I'll go home now. 900 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: The problem and when you're in an uh situation. I 901 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: wanted to say ave, and I'm gonna stop saying that 902 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: because it sounds like it's a situation like the grand 903 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: can't and you go, I gotta finish. I gotta finish 904 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 1: what I started. And yeah, I changed what I started. 905 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: I would not. I'm so glad I made that decision. 906 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: It was the right decision. And I would have been 907 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,760 Speaker 1: behind Bill by the way when he had his issue 908 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: and wouldn't have been able to call, wouldn't have gotten 909 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: his text, so we could have a whole another discussion 910 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 1: about things happening for a reason. It gets a little 911 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: more complicated in my philosophy at least, but amazing. Another 912 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,479 Speaker 1: amazing experience. And I feel so good at fifty three 913 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: and now I'm switching gears by the way. Recovery spent 914 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 1: a couple of days, so it's now Tuesday again. Saturday 915 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: we ran, spent Sunday walking around. We hiked around, just 916 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 1: to move. Just did that uppisode on recovery. You gotta 917 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 1: you gotta move. It was painful, you know, sore. When 918 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: I say painful, it's not you know, it's soreness. So 919 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 1: moving is what we want to do. Low level. Didn't exercise. 920 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 1: Obviously some do crazy depending on you know. You don't 921 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: want to do too much, is my point. You gotta 922 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: recover shredded my quads, micro tears and the muscles. But today, tonight, 923 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna get on a stationary bike for an 924 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: half hour and go super easy to loosen up again, 925 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,520 Speaker 1: and I'm eating better and I'm refueling, hydrating all that 926 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So important. Again, you want to see 927 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: pictures from this, That's what I kind of love. I'm 928 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,959 Speaker 1: not a big fan of the social media. I gotta 929 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: play in that world, though, and what I do is 930 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: show your pictures like from the Grand Canyon, and again 931 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 1: you can see all the fuel, the pack that I 932 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: put together the night before. You can see pictures from 933 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: the Grand Candy. You can also see my shirt. It's 934 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: really it's just a great visual on why we need 935 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: sports drinks. People. When you do something like that, that's 936 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: an extreme thing, but that's what sports strengths were invented for. 937 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 1: You need the fuel, which is sugar, because that's where 938 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: you bonk, which I was doing the last couple of 939 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: miles because I didn't take in enough fuel. And you 940 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,439 Speaker 1: need the electrolytes in the salt, because you're sweating it out, 941 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: and we sweat it out at different rates. And when 942 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: we sweat out too much, I guess what happens. You 943 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: cramp that. I've done dozens and dozens of races and 944 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to nail it that and you never, 945 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: you never totally do as I said at the start, 946 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: all right, but that's half the fun. Enjoy life, challenge yourself, 947 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 1: do crazy things, prepare for them, but challenge yourself, and 948 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 1: then leave with this. I think, what do you need? 949 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: What do you need physically and what do you need 950 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: mentally out of it? And that's yours. Don't let social media, 951 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: don't let what others think matter, because that ruins the 952 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: entire event. If I let those thoughts creep in as 953 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing this event, what is the point. I have 954 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: to enjoy the moment. And I see far too many 955 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: people doing organized events that aren't and I know from 956 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: coaching hundreds, if not thousands of people with camps and 957 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: charity events and things like that, we care too much 958 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: what other people think. It's yours. It's yours, and that's 959 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: really important. All right? Questions comments Tom h fit Is 960 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter. You can message me Tom h fit 961 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 1: am I going back? Think I am I story for 962 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: another day. But it's different. It always has to be different. 963 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: I want you know, it has to be different, goals, different, 964 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: something different. Right. Although it's always different, you know you're 965 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: gonna have different experiences as well. Uh Tom h Instagram 966 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: and Twitter. You go to fitness this rapp the dot com. 967 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: Email me through the site. The micro Workout Plan is 968 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: my most recent book. Follow the show, subscribe if you 969 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: can comment, I'd love to hear from you. Challenge yourself. 970 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 1: We have one life. We get to control how much 971 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: we move when we put into our mouths and our attitudes. 972 00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 1: And that's awesome. I am Tom Holland. This is Fitness Disrupted. 973 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: Believe in Yourself. Fitness Disrupted is a production of I 974 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit 975 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: the i heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 976 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows.