1 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily sp in Cleveland. 3 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zigura. It is, 4 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: it is Tuesday. It's a program. Um. I gotta tell 5 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: you as we do it live here merely both the 6 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: great z Um. It's a bluebird. I'm disappointed in you. 7 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: Why what are you wearing on your lower half? Oh? 8 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: I went to more you. I was like, we're going shorts. 9 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: The sun's out, it's gonna hit sixty five. I think 10 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: this afternoon, let's go. So here's what happened. It's it's 11 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: the reality of the circumstances. So I was out this 12 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: morning dealing with the landscape project that will never end. 13 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: And there's more hidden and so that a dense fog. 14 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: There was a dense fog this morning. So I was 15 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: out in the thick of it. Um and then it 16 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: wasn't short weather then and and then I have such 17 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: a quick turnaround from you know, noon to now that 18 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: I didn't even the things that it was on my 19 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: list of things that had we had to eat, we 20 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: had to drive over, we have those things. So it 21 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: was not to happen. So it is a bad job 22 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: out of me. I'm not going to deny it. I'm 23 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna deny it. Love's a bad job. 24 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: It's a gorgeous day. Uh and and so we have 25 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: that going forest which is nice. Feel like the allergies 26 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: are though, it's like it's on. My wife said this 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: to me this morning. She said, you know, I feel 28 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: like I'm getting a little bit of nasal drip. And 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I said, we welcome to the club. The whole world 30 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: is right now, man, we were That's how I woke up. 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: That's literally, Yeah, same conversation with seventy two. You know, 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: it's seventy it's thirty eight, it's snowing, there's pollen, it's 33 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: it's a tough it's a tough time. We gotta get 34 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: through it. We're gonna get tremendous wind tomorrow in the seventies. 35 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: It sounds like, so that should dry. No rain, I 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: don't know, probably rains every day, no big deal, which 37 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: I now know means of the people in the area, 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: we'll get rain, we'll get rain potentially potentially. I don't know. 39 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't like um, I have I have to tell 40 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: you good luck to the Calves to night. By the way, 41 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: they're in Brooklyn, so you got that one at seven um. 42 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: A loss there would then mean the winner of Charlotte 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: and like in Atlanta, who play Wednesday here? Which would 44 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: be electric? I mean that would be an There would 45 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: be Friday Night here, Friday Night, Friday Night, same night, 46 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Guardians home opener. What what's going on downtown? I do 47 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: another uh in my other job. The amount of demerits 48 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: I have for calling them Indians are stacks. It's just 49 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be really hard to get that out 50 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: of my head. Yes, absurd tragedy in Brooklyn today. Yeah, 51 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: we've been we've been watching kind of the coverage of it. 52 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: So far. They've said that they do not believe it's steriostatic. 53 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what if? That seems pretty bad in 54 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: the suspect is still a large so oh really? Yeah? 55 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: Five dead, ten in critical condition? Is that still the 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: numbers up to ten on the shooting? I don't know 57 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: anything like that, and they don't have because the Gate 58 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: guy who was wearing again, it's looks very scary, like 59 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: horror movie stuff. What are we doing? I don't know, 60 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: very sad, scary world my friend. UM certainly is that 61 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: UM so as a awkward segue to something more light 62 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: light hard. The first segment of the show, One of 63 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: my great pleasures in life is UM nine thirty ish 64 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: boys go to bed and I'm I don't have a 65 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: show right now, Like we don't have a show, like 66 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm watching Winning Time, but I'm caught up on everything 67 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: else and so I don't. I haven't started anything new yet. 68 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: I've heard, like there's a show Tokyo Vice or something 69 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: that Michael Mann did that's on HBO that might is 70 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: kind of intriguing. There's a show called Severance that is, uh, 71 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: that's an Apple TV, But I gotta how do you 72 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: get Apple TV if you have a Samsung or a 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Sony TV. It's just like I can't even find it 74 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: to download it, like you go on the Google Play. 75 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: It's now reminds on like a Roku TV. So I 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: don't have that thing anyway. So yeah, I've heard that 77 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: that one's good through the Xbox. You could get it first. 78 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: That's probably what I would do. I have to do that, 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: all right. So there there are a couple of things 80 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: out there, but I didn't start anything. So one of 81 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: the things that I enjoy doing is I'm still old 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: school with the with the cable and I like to 83 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: flip around and see what's on. Let's let's see what's 84 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: out there, So you pop around. Sometimes you look for 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: a movie on with commercials. Sometimes you find one in 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: the movie channels and you bounce around. So I had 87 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: a great experience with this last week. It was the 88 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: of going from Oceans eleven to Oceans twelve on like 89 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: an a m C. And then there was a um 90 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: a Few Good Men was on like BBC. So think 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: every the commercials worked where I was always in one 92 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: of them, and that was pure Joe beautiful. Last night 93 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: it was Bueller and Footloose. Okay, so I've ever seen it. 94 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Seems impossible of a man your age to not be 95 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: to not have seen Footloose, and it was a foot 96 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: Loos was a movement. Oh yeah, that was a big 97 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. That's shocking to me, given that 98 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: was well. Both present their challenge. I mean, foot Loose 99 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: presents a lot of challenges. I think Ferres Bueler is 100 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: probably flawless as a movie. And I wanted to run 101 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: something by you guys because I was thinking I was 102 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: talking about this morning. Is Ferress Bueller the most likable, 103 00:05:50,880 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: coolest high school character in film history? Nobody disliked him, 104 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: Nobody except ed Rooney and his sister, and he flips 105 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: the sister by the end. So immediately what springs to 106 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: mind is somebody that would perhaps be in contention, but 107 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: he ran with his own click. It wasn't the universal 108 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: love that Ferris had was Speccoli? Who was Speccoli? Spaccoli 109 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: saves Brookshields, van Halen performs at the end for him. 110 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's it's a lot. He flips the teacher, 111 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: he's he's now on his Yeah, he's for him. He's 112 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: kind of for him at the end. But I don't 113 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: know that he's as universe. I mean, it's he's he's 114 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: in the conversation. He's probably in His brother doesn't like him. 115 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that the little brother. No, it does 116 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: not not. No, that might feels that breaks of jealousy, 117 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: though probably be easy to be jealous. Of course, Marty 118 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: McFly is pretty good. Except the McFly name. I think 119 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: it's it's holding him down. So post all the time travel, 120 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: I could go Marty McFly, Okay, all right, listen, give 121 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: me come on. First of all, Scott was not universally liked. 122 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: He was a bit of a dork. Okay, so let's 123 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: start there. He had two friends, boof and the duty 124 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: drove the Van styles. That's it. No friends. Second of all, 125 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: I think we kind of glaze over the fact that 126 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: he's a wolf. I mean, it's a bit of a problem. 127 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: He's a much bigger problem than it's made to be 128 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: in the film. It's pretty pretty over. It's kind of like, yeah, 129 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: he becomes a little he's good at basketball. Wolf can play. 130 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Mick from the opposing town whose girlfriend 131 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: he stole, who randomly decided you want to date a dog? 132 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: That guy didn't like him at all, not at all. 133 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: There's not one adversary for Bueller other than other than Rudy, 134 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: that's true. Not now you want to go athletes, then 135 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: Jesus Shuttlesworth and Lance Harbor and athletes. There's a lot 136 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: of them that are in the mix. But just like 137 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: a dude, just a dude Bueller. I think the Bueller 138 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: and high school right, yeah, I mean Van Wilder would 139 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: have been Van Wilder similar from the college spect that's 140 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: a good I was thinking perfect. So I don't know 141 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: that I've seen it, but Van Wilder was like the 142 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: you have to be a pie piper type of a characters, 143 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: like everybody wants to follow you? Why and is that's 144 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: where Spaccoli doesn't have that speccoli. It was like incredibly cool, 145 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: but he ran in his click Van Wilder, that's college. 146 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: But Van Wilder is he's that guy. He's the college 147 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: probably cooler than Bueller. Well, there's a level to it 148 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: because of the college aspect that he can do that 149 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: Bueller can't. I mean, one's a family and the target 150 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: audiences are very very different. Have your kids seen Bueler? 151 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if we watched Bueller yet. I'm gonna 152 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: run it out with with my ten year old. It's 153 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: it's perfectly appropriate and I'm going to run it by 154 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: him and see if it holds up. Well, yeah, other 155 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: than the the Graham, but it gets knocked out before 156 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: I heard that you were headache, fever and a chilly 157 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: to restore his pluck, Yes, but that doesn't it doesn't 158 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: if we don't finish, it doesn't reach culmination there. That's true, 159 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: um much. I was also reminded that much of my like, 160 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: which she's pretty cool because somebody sent that to him 161 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: to that's like another feather in his cap, shaking a baby, now, 162 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: shake it up, baby, yeah, into twist and shout, activating 163 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: the city of Chicago. The city loves him. The police 164 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: department loved him. Our thoughts are with your son. He's 165 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: a righteous dude. I mean they all like him. Yeah, yeah, 166 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: I think it's him. Much of my middle school repertoire 167 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: was based on Bueller. Yeah, a lot of my acts 168 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: based on that. I tried some of his methods to 169 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: get out of going to school, to lick the hands, 170 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: clammy hand. Not nothing worked in my household. I did 171 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: get pretty good though, at somehow getting the thermometer into 172 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: my bathroom and my synk erin really hot and I 173 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: could get it to like it would go to like 174 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: one oh six, and then I was mercury. So then 175 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: I have to shake it, but you have to be carefully. 176 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: You shake it down to like a hundred, but you 177 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: can't go down, and you can't go too low, but 178 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: you can't go too high because then you have a way. Yeah, 179 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: that's what Ethan. One of his credos is. Then you're 180 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: in a hospital, you got I got pretty good at 181 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: it with my mom, but then my dad caught it, 182 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: got wise to it was like the thermometer stays in 183 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: my sight at all times. I definitely that's good. I 184 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: definitely used. Of course, Pedro would have that because he 185 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: did everything he was There's no tricks that could be 186 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: pulled on. He was such a worthy adversary for you, 187 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: and I think I outivade you who you are. I 188 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: think it allows for your cunning. But I wasn't an adversary. 189 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: I was in his mind you were. I was a 190 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: great kid. Of course I didn't get into any trouble 191 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: because of the was an athlete, but I was never 192 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: like I stuck in my house once once and he 193 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: caught me. And Pedro would say, because of his yoke 194 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: that you were under that. That that's why that discipline. 195 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: There's still a little ongoing today, so you're always there. 196 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: When I went to college, my first of us do 197 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: I go to Emory and like, when you go to college, dude, 198 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: you're on your your living brother, that's like, that's just 199 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: you only do whatever whatever you want. And I would 200 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: have to come home to it. Well, I went to college. 201 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Fall break was you know, I lived. I was in Atlanta, 202 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: not that it's just a NonStop flight back to the 203 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: Bay Area, but I was deemed too far to get 204 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: a return ticket to come home, so fall break I 205 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: stayed out there, so I didn't see my parents again 206 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: until I came home for a winter break and I 207 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: had gotten straight a's I handled my business. I was party, 208 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: in my face off, having the time of my life, 209 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: no yoke, And I remember I came home and my 210 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: dad's like, I went out with some of my friends, 211 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and my dad's like, you got to be home by minute, 212 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: like it's over. I'm like, it's over. Like I went 213 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: to college, I was completely on my own. I did 214 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: everything you guys could have wanted me to do. In fact, 215 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: at the end of my first semester, I became an 216 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Emory scholar. I got like money standing in fact, it's over, 217 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: and that was it. It was over. He should buy it, 218 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: not his house, his rules. Like at that point he's like, okay, yeah, wow, 219 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: well I took my hand to pay drow there. I 220 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: like that at least there there was an acknowledgement of 221 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: out on your own now. But there was a lot 222 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: of still minor things that were like my house and 223 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: my rules a toten of course, chores and this and 224 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: that whatever. But curfew was no more, because that used 225 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: to be the biggest point in contention with us, is 226 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: that there would always be like a curfew. But then 227 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: I'd have my buddy Vincent carry and we'd like come 228 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: home and make my curfew because Vince didn't have a curfew. 229 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: And then I'd be like, but I gotta drive Vince 230 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: hu no, yeah, and then chaos would erupt in ensue 231 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: and all the great things. It's great, so great. Yeah. 232 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: I think that I definitely used the Bueller tactics. I 233 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: think the I used the Bueler tactics a couple of 234 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: times on the on the get sick thing with the folks. 235 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: The the one thing I would say though sometimes about 236 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: skipping out, like you really had to be smart about 237 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: that because in your mind you were going to create 238 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: some sort of a Bueller situation, but that was never 239 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: in play. And then the next day like it all 240 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: stacked on you. It did stack on it. I had 241 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: to as when I was a younger kid and I 242 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: would be able to get out every now and then 243 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: I'd get to watch I would watch either Swiss Family 244 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: Robinson or Blackbird's Ghosts, and I just get on the 245 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: video games and I just have like a video game 246 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: day and great, Yeah, that's always strong if you can 247 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: even run that back. I was always worried some of 248 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: of of my because my dad could come in at 249 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: any time. My dad was at school. Yeah he's not pretty, 250 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, at any point he could have come in 251 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: from outside and at any point. So I was kind 252 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: of always on a swivel. And my mom had worked 253 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: the graveyard SIPs, so she was often sleeping, you know, 254 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: in the in the day. So then was I basically 255 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: had and then as yep, I'm not well, I'm not well, 256 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: it's great, really really good. He felt like such an 257 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: accomplishment though at the time when you could get relief, 258 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: the relief of brothers, my younger brothers leaving to school 259 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: and me and a silent household kicking the kid the 260 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: silent house do whatever I want now. And for you, 261 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: you had no snow days ever in the Bay Area, 262 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: so like school was you were going, I was going. Yeah, Well, 263 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: to be fair, you didn't have him in Montana either. 264 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: You just sorted it out one snow day. Ever, tons 265 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: of them here, oh here, you can't wait to throw 266 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: a snow day at a kid in preparations down down 267 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: My kids who just had a two week spring break 268 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: that ended what like a week ago, two weeks ago 269 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: staff meetings, so they had yesterday off. These kids have, 270 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they have no when are they done like early, 271 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: They're done in May. It's incredible. Yeah, ours go to 272 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: like into June now. But I feel like I used to. 273 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: I used to go off every two weeks for something. 274 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: I used to be like I feel like back in 275 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: my day old. I feel like I went to school. 276 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: I know, I started at the end of August and 277 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: I finished in we were The latest I'd ever started 278 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: was Labor Day, which would be the first weekend in September. 279 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: But that was once I went to high school. But 280 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: like middle school and that we're always in school, always 281 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: in school. We were always done before Memorial and started 282 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: after labor and a lot of that had to do 283 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: with the agriculture. But we didn't have spring break right 284 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: like you went straight through, so you didn't have spring break, 285 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: and so it was it was a straight through situation. 286 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: Because I think they want to do they want to 287 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,119 Speaker 1: make sure you could help with all the all the agriculture. 288 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: I just licked at my phone, Nana Goes. I didn't 289 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: realize you did that. What I do, what I do, 290 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: what I do. That's good, That's very very good. Dearnest 291 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: Johnson signs with Drew Rosenhouse. You have that going as well. 292 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: On that side. Remember he is a restricted free agent, 293 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: which means another team can sign him the Browns that 294 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: have the right to match that offer to keep it. 295 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: There we go. That's where we stand on that. We'll 296 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: go around the league. Interesting. We kind of got into 297 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: this a little bit with on the Lamar thing. When 298 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to think who could line up for quarterbacks. 299 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: John Harbob was some interesting comms on that side of thing. 300 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,239 Speaker 1: Charlie Campe will join us at Walter Football Draft Analyst. 301 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: His latest five round mock will take a look at 302 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: the edge of the receiver positions some of those guys 303 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: deeper in the draft. We will get to that as 304 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: things continue on. Nick Chuck will join us as well 305 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit of the league. Great Nick 306 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: Shock will join us um by the way Privates with 307 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: a big ask it. It seems could be very intriguing 308 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: if we could come are we gonna throwing Ad Gibby 309 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: on the air. We're gonna hit him with it. That 310 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: could happen. It's in play. Keep him on his toes 311 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: see if he's paying attention. We're often running here on 312 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: a two clean bronze fifty yes and Cleveland Cleveland Brown's 313 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Daily sp N Cleveland O Here for Char Whiskey, Barn 314 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Grill and Rocky River and joy Over Third Whiskey Scraft 315 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: cocktails paired with made from scratch menu item. Char will 316 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: also be coming out with the new spring menu in 317 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks with new items on the brunch 318 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: and main menus. Support Local was a Char Whiskey Bar 319 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: and Grill and Rocky River or at Char Rocky River 320 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: dot com. This was John Harbaugh on the Lamar Jackson 321 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: contract situation. This is on the Rich Eisens Show. He said, quote, 322 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: when he's ready to do it, it's gonna become a 323 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: priority for him. Then we're gonna know it. You know, 324 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be a priority for us right now. 325 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: It's got to be a priority for both sides. We 326 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: can do something or we can wait because we know 327 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna get done and it's supposed to get done. Hey, 328 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: when it's God's will in Lamars will. At the same time, 329 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: it's all going to fit together. When you and I 330 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: were looking at who is the t was at the 331 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: Eagles Eagles when we're talking about the Eagles, like, who's 332 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: the guy that no one's talking about who could be available? 333 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: The two guys we mentioned were Lamar and Kyler Um. 334 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: Those are the two big time quarterbacks who you feel 335 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: like could be available that you're not considering right now. 336 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: And even Kyler more than Lamar. But this Lamar stuff 337 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: and you brought even bringing this ubstance to combine, something's fishy. 338 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: Something doesn't seem right. If I was a Ravens fan 339 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: who unted Lamar Jackson to be my franchise quarterbrick, I 340 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: would not feel great right now. I would just feel like, 341 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: what are what's going on? And it feels to me, 342 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's happy to just play their franchise 343 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: franchise and do whatever, make good money, have the guaranteed 344 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: each year. That's a way to do it, but it 345 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: feels it does. Something just feels off there. And I 346 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: think that there is some school of thought that in 347 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: a conference in which you are going to have to 348 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: throw the football very effectively to be competitive in the 349 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: upper echelons of this conference. That even though Lamar has 350 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: been the m v P and I had the best 351 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: touchdown interception ratio that year, maybe even led the league 352 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: in passing touchdowns that year, to be honest that they 353 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: don't feel he can do that. There has to be 354 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: some hesitanting because there's an offer if they were fully 355 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: committed to it, whether it's a priority for him or not, 356 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: that they could make that. He says, yep, I'm here. 357 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: They're not making that offer. So the question is, well, 358 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: why not? And why is he not ready? Why is 359 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: when it's Lamar's will, when it's it's gotta be They 360 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: basically said it's not a priority for him, which is odd. Yeah, 361 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: what's he Yeah, you can make it a priority for him. 362 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: He may think I want to play somewhere else, which 363 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: would raise a lot of questions about why and where 364 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: and how and for the Ravens, then you could be 365 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: in a tough situation. There's something about this that just 366 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: feels like if it was people wanted it to get done, 367 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: I believe that it would get done. So this is 368 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: it is an odd thing, and it will be something. 369 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty big story. And now if 370 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: we go through the draft and nothing happens, my guess 371 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: is he is fully content to play this year out 372 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: and then say franchise me or I'm gonna sign somewhere else, 373 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: because that is another way to get around if the 374 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: Ravens have said to him, we're not willing to fully 375 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: guarantee your contract, it's willing to get I can get 376 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: two years fully gearing teat and then signed somewhere else 377 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: and see where the market is at that point comes 378 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: with some risk of given his style of play and 379 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: given what we saw this past season where he did 380 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: get injured. I don't know that one is That one's 381 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: a wild one to me. And you know it's crazy. 382 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: As you look at the a f C right now, 383 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: they did a thing on Good Morning Football where they drafted, 384 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: They did a snake draft of who they thought could 385 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: win the a f C. You saw that, like the 386 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: Broncos were ten, right, yeah, seven make it to the playoffs, 387 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: forget winning the a f C. The Broncos were I 388 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: believe the Ravens were eighth. I think we were seventh 389 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: if I have that right, and I think it came out, 390 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: it came back around like the Titans and somebody, but 391 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: it went four across and we were the second one 392 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: in the in the second thing of memory serves, Yeah, 393 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: I think six early in the second round. But I 394 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: mean that is just a it's a stunning amount of town. 395 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: The Ravens were behind us. I do know that we were. 396 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: The Bengals were ahead of us, but in a loaded division, 397 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: in a loaded conference. It's just having that sorted out. 398 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: It just makes it hard for your organization to feel 399 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: stable without that being sorted out. And I just think 400 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: it is a wild thing in the way that it's 401 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: being talked about. Like, like I said, if you're a 402 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: Ravens fan and you are a fully a Lamar guy 403 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: and you hear these comments kind of like huh, like 404 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: what's going Like we're doing it. We have a lot 405 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: of lip service, but somebody clearly this deal is not 406 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: even close to getting done well. And then yeah, it 407 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: look it was going to be the most complicated extension anyway, 408 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: because of all of the factors you just outlined. It 409 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: was going to be that anyway, because the longevity of 410 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: it all, uh, the the the health of Lamar and 411 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: he's largely been healthy. I mean in nineteen and twenty 412 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: he played fifteen games, he started fifteen games in both. 413 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Last year was the first year that he was really 414 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: hurt and went and went just and still played twelve 415 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: games and what's seven and five in those starts. So 416 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: last year is really the only year that he was hurt. 417 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: But it's the other part of it too. In an 418 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: era where you have got to throw the ball at 419 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: a high efficiency, and the thing that you said, and 420 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: it's it's the perfect way to say it. Can you 421 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: throw when everybody knows you have to throw? Can you 422 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: still throw? And if you can't, then you can't win 423 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: at all. And Baltimore is a is an organization. They 424 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: won two Super Bowls. They're an organization that they're they're 425 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: either that or they're not, like they're all in to 426 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: be that. And if if they feel like he can't 427 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: be that, I don't think that they would be crazy 428 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: about giving him a guaranteed bunch of money that they 429 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: don't feel like he can do it. And that's where 430 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: I think we are right, That's where I think we 431 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: are as well. And it's something that we talked about. 432 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: And I think the fact I think us with the 433 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: Deshaun deal, probably only exacerbated it from their perspective, makes 434 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: it even harder for them because how do they put 435 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: a true value on him, Like if they were saying, okay, well, well, 436 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: and I have no idea about this, but let's just 437 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: spit ball, all right, We'll do a let's do a 438 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: four year, one fifty hun or guaranteed or something like 439 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: that wherever it would be fine, you know, but but 440 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: a hundred of its guaranteed. And he's gonna wait a second, 441 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: Deshan got to thirty guaranteed guaranteed, Like I want an 442 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: m v P I've been playing. I'd like a taste 443 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: of that. So that that's where this gets more complicated. 444 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: I got news for you. There will be complications in 445 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: Cincinnati with Joe Burrow unless Joe decides to give them discounts, 446 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: which and they have ability at least have a multi 447 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: year plan for that so they can do what they 448 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: need to do, was the Brown family to identify, you know, 449 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: put finances away or secure that for the purpose of that. 450 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: The same will be true in in in Los Angeles 451 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: with the charges, the Spanos family would be in a 452 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: similar spot. So you could see this repeated throughout the league. 453 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: But those two are two guys. And it's crazy to 454 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: say but because Burrows missed an entire season already or 455 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: most of a season already. Um, but there are guys who, 456 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: theoretically the way game is officiated, will not take hits 457 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: long term. Very often, they'll take less and less. They'll 458 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: be protected in the pocket. Lamar doesn't play that way, right. 459 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: It's almost like we're lucky from from in terms of 460 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: enjoying watching him play. We're lucky, and fans of the 461 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: Ravens are lucky that he's played as much as he 462 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: has with as much as he takes off. Yeah, it's 463 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable, and I mean he's done a remarkable job. 464 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean I remember coming out of that Chargers playoff game, 465 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: we didn't think there was gonna be much to that 466 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: offense next year, and he just went on one the 467 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: m v P. SO. But last year you started to 468 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: see teams identifying and saying, we are going to force 469 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: you to throw it. That Miami game I think will 470 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: stick with everybody for a long long time. We're going 471 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 1: to force you to throw it. We're gonna blitz into 472 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: your running, your escape lanes and we're gonna make you 473 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: make throws in man situations to moving targets. And that's 474 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: something that he struggled to do, you know, And that's 475 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. Very understand. Nice quarters hip though, 476 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: nice quarters hip. There I was, I was looking. I 477 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: was trying to make it. Get a read on those 478 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: airmacks and pinties. I believe that's what it looked like. 479 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: And it looked like they were I think that's the 480 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: off NOI how do you say it? White no n 481 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: o I noir noir, off noir, like a blue ink, 482 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: like a JR Car noir. I bet you racked a 483 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: lot of that. What was your black panther? It works 484 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: none of the time. My first one polo sportlight. Of course, 485 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: it was a delight obsession, obsession sport, nice blue bottle. 486 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: The last time I wore cologne, by the way I 487 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: could say, was probably in maybe in college. Maybe, yeah. Maybe. 488 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: I don't mind it. If we go out to like 489 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: a dinner with a bunch of people, I don't mind 490 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: a light one press sprits walk through, just so that 491 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: there's a little something, a little something musk. Yeah, exactly. 492 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: You and McConaughey that's how he rolls. No deodorant, no 493 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: uh deodorant, no, no deodorant, and no uh no natural muss, 494 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: no no no artificial muss. At the record state, we 495 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: do not roll the same way I do. You do? 496 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: We the deodorant I always told my wife Gillette cool 497 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: wave of gel Anti perspinting deodorant one. He was the 498 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: only one who could get away with that in the 499 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: history of the world. Like, there's one dude who could 500 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: give I just I don't know, Like, and I find 501 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: that miss Kay where's she? And she goes through whatever 502 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: she's into from the perfume standpoint, and she always smells great. 503 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: I just feel like I want to I don't know, 504 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't because maybe I associated with high school and 505 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: like it's just yeah, I'll tell you. Yeah. There was 506 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: a burbery stretch of burbery touch stretch I had in 507 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: my twenties that I was into Doug Chaquetti, who was 508 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: as cool as his name would lead you to believe, 509 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: was a cousin of my best friend, and he put 510 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: us onto obsession and we thought, God, that guy gets 511 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: so many checks, like if he's doing it, so it 512 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: was like that makes sense that I should wear obsession 513 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: to the second one that I had, which was after 514 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: a Polo Sport because it was a polisport. And then 515 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: in the cool water cool cool water. My brother was 516 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: a cool water guy. Cool cool water. Yeah yeah, cool water. Yeah. 517 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: My brother felt confident when he went out in course 518 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: you didn't yeah, water songs, yeah, yeah, that was it. 519 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: Um all right. Coming up next, Charlie Campbell joined his 520 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: draft and by the way, so cool Water, Bolo Sport, Bueller, 521 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: Jakarto Wi all of these, I do you think those are? 522 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: Do they still exist? Cologne, those like those still exists? Jacardo, 523 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 1: Polo Sport and cool water are still Oh yeah, I'm 524 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: sure Polo Sport is. I'm sure. I'm sure Obsession is. 525 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: That feels like a lock that that would still be 526 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: all the Calvin Klein, the Eternity would all it's still 527 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: in mix. I feel like all those would be in 528 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: the mix. Cool Water was by it off like a 529 00:27:46,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: minute ago. Yeah, sorry, Charlie Campbell, Cleanlrond, Cleveland, Browns Daily 530 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: sp N Cleveland. A lot of advice out there about gambling, 531 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: from secret methods to picking lottery numbers to betting big 532 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: when you're on a roll. The Miss can lose your money, 533 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: keep you in a lot of trouble. So before you 534 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: wage or find out what's real and what isn't it, 535 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: keep it fun Ohio dot com. Let's head it on 536 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: the hotline for visit with Charlie Campbell, draft analyst at 537 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: Walter Football. Before we get into all the football, Charlie, 538 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: what was your first cologne as a kid? Was there 539 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: one that jumps out? Pardon? I broke up there just 540 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: a second. The question was worthy of breaking up. We 541 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: were just having a conversation on the show here about 542 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: our first cologns that we wore. For example, Calvin Klein 543 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: obsession cool water was thrown around Polar no Air Polo sport. 544 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: What was yours? Do you remember? I believe it was 545 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: a cool water on my own I think my I 546 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: think I think that my grandparents got me a Brooks 547 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: Brothers onan when I was in Yes, but I the 548 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: first one I bought on my own. Water Brooks brother 549 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: had to have a real wood, really had to be 550 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: an elegant. Yeah. I think they have had better taste 551 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: than I did. In hindsight, the water was great. Now, 552 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: I think you did just find for yourself. That's Charlie, 553 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: all right, before we get into the specifics of this, 554 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: and we'll focus on kind of our needs and where 555 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: you have us going in this thing. Um, from your 556 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: perspective when you're putting together a five round mock, is 557 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: your attitude, this is what I would do it this 558 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: spot or what or is your attitude towards it? This 559 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: is what I think they will do in this spot. Yeah. 560 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: My marks are based on what I think teams will do, 561 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: not what I think they should do, because my opinion 562 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: on players at the end of the day is irrelevant. 563 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: What does matter is where teams value guys. So I 564 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: work really hard to try and find out from them 565 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: and lean on people who know more than I do 566 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: outs across the league where they're valuing players, so I 567 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: can get an accurate projection of the right range. And 568 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: then you know, trying to get information to see who 569 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: might like who, and you know who's a better fit 570 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: for who, that kind of thing. My mocks are based 571 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: on what I think teams will do, and I don't 572 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: care about my opinion at all. It doesn't matter. All 573 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: I want to do is find out where they value 574 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: guys and try and make an accurate mock. For our 575 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: readers and just one caveat to prove it. Where we 576 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: are with this with Charlie, I'm seeing here in seventeen 577 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: and nineteen you had the most accurate mock draft in 578 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: the NFL media and your second place in the man 579 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, no doubt. Congrats on that, and 580 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: that's why that's why we've got him on the show here. Now. 581 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: The one thing I'm not just from sitting in my 582 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: seat that I'm not happy about, giving that your accuracy 583 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: is so well known. No receiver for the Browns here 584 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: in either the second third or fourth. We'll but where 585 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: you go. I think everybody would agree. Looking at this 586 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: roster right now, the biggest needs as they sit today 587 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: are probably edge defender would be number one with Clowney 588 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: still not resigned. Defensive tackle, wide receiver. Those are probably 589 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: the three biggest positions of need right now. You attack 590 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: the first two with the first two picks, what are 591 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: you what's your kind of sense of how the Browns 592 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: are viewing this world? I would also add there are 593 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: definitely more options to help this team at receiver and 594 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: free agency still currently out there. It doesn't just have 595 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: to be the draft. Yeah, exactly. I could see, uh, 596 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: depending on the draft how it shakes out, that there 597 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: could be some nice receivers there for them in the 598 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: second round, and I think some of the veteran receivers 599 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: out there in free agency would make sense to work 600 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Wofson. But definitely they have some good options 601 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: available because the day to value, I think there's something 602 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: going to be some excellent values for edge rusher and 603 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the second round. So the Browns are 604 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: really fortunate that that the strength of the draft plays 605 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: into the kind of needs of the roster, so they're 606 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: not reaching necessarily, They're filling a need with a quality 607 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: talent that's worthy of going at that spot. So they 608 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: have great options. Their edge rusher, you could look at 609 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Drake Jackson from USC or ARNOLDO. Mcktty from Penn State, 610 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: who I think could end up being a steel kind 611 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: of a Yannick and Dockway type edge rusher, which I 612 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: think would be a great bit across from Miles Garrett. 613 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: Uh So you have, you know a few options there. 614 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: Cameron Thomas, another edge rusher, would be a good player 615 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: to consider in the second round. And then receiver, there's 616 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: just gonna be a lot of good players there, whether 617 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: it's John Dotson from Penn State. Uh, I'm not sure 618 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: Christian Watson, the North Dakota State receiver, makes it to 619 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 1: round two anymore. But yeah, Alec Pierce from Cincinnati I 620 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: think could be a steal for someone. Wan Dale Robinson 621 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: from Kentucky just dominated the SEC last year. He's a 622 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: really good football player that's being undervalued. So I think 623 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: the Browns are are in a great spot and this 624 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: was a great draft for them to deal the first 625 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: of the first round picks for Watson because I think 626 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: they come away with an elite quarterback already, and they 627 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: could come away with a really good starter and an 628 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: edge rusher or wide receiver in the second round. Talking 629 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: with Charlie Campbell, the draft analyst at Walter Football, and 630 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: let's just focus in on these edges. You have the 631 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Browns taken Drake Jackson out of USC at number forty four. 632 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: I know that you like him, you like Arnold you 633 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: mentioned uh from Penn State. Quite The question I have 634 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: for you is David a Java where would he have 635 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: gone without the achilles injury? In your mind? And is 636 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: that somebody that the Browns would or should consider at 637 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: knowing that he's probably going to have the red shirt 638 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: at least a good portion of this season. Yeah, I 639 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: definitely agree. I think if if a job o it 640 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: didn't have the injury, he'd have gone in the top sixteen. 641 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of teams uh in that part of 642 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: the draft that need pass rush health, and he was 643 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: being viewed as worthy of going in the top half 644 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: of the first round. So I'm sorry, I think he 645 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: would have gone. And then for the Browns, I think 646 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: that would be a great pick because even though they 647 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: have the roster to win now, they have the roster 648 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: to win next year or the year after. DeShawn Watson's 649 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: very young in his career. He's opening up you know, 650 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen year super Bowl window when you have 651 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: an elite quarterback, so there's no reason to rush it. 652 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: And if a Jobo is there in the second round, 653 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: I think that would be a really nice pick for them. 654 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: They can you know, red shirt him a year. Maybe 655 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: hopefully they get Clowney back. Uh. Chase Winovich is a 656 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: nice rotational edge rusher that they acquired, so they could 657 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: hold off for a year and then bring them back. Uh. 658 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: Come three and you have a top sixteen talent added 659 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 1: to the defense and you're rewarded for being patient. Yeah, 660 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: certainly that is something that we've talked about a lot 661 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: in the mock that you have us at forty four. 662 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: You was taking Drake Jackson the defensive end at the 663 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: usc UM. What what can you tell us about his game? 664 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: The fit. I mean, everyone's gonna fit opposite Miles obviously, 665 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: but just the type of player he is and the 666 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: type of fit he would be in this defense, well, 667 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: I think that he would go higher if he had 668 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: been at some other schools, But I think usc UH 669 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: in some ways held them back because they had him 670 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: do a variety of things which I think has helped 671 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: his development in terms of versatility for the NFL, with 672 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: them having him drop into coverage and UH kind of 673 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: set the edge and play, you know, do more reading 674 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: of the offense rather than just pin his ears back 675 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: and go after the quarterback. But when they let him 676 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: do that, he was really impressive and he showed speed 677 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: and strength, some versatility to slide inside and the sub package. 678 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: So obviously, like you said, any pass rusher is going 679 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: to benefit playing across from Miles Garrett. But I think 680 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: Drake Jackson with with his upside, he could have been 681 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: a first round pick. I think if he went to 682 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: a different school UH that let him just rush and 683 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: pile up the sack numbers, I think he could have 684 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: been a first rounder. But because of that way USC 685 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: used him and kind of held him back, And I 686 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: think that turns him into a really nice value on 687 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: Day two. If the Browns were to, let's say go 688 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: wide receiver in the second round, who would be at 689 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: seventy eight? Some of the defensive ends you would be 690 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: hoping for if you were Andrew Berry, Well, you know 691 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: the the third round end, there's still some good players there. 692 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: I think Michael Clemens from Texas A and m is 693 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: just a good, well rounded football player, really finished the 694 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: season strong. UH might not be the flashiest of athlete, 695 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: but he's just a well rounded football player that plays 696 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: the run well and can contribute in the past rush 697 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: as well. So he would definitely be a player that 698 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: I would keep an eye on. I think Nick Beneto 699 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. He's smaller, more of kind of a linebacker 700 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: defensive ent tweener, so he would really be a DPR 701 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: designated pass rusher in the sub package where you bring 702 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: him in and just let him hunt the quarterback. And 703 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: he's super uh flippery and fast off the edge. Undersized guy, 704 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: but definitely has natural pass rush ability to him. So 705 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: if you brought if you had more of a solid 706 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: base end, I think that a player like Beneto would 707 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: be a really nice fit for the rotation as far 708 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: as bringing in some heat in the sub package and 709 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: adding another speed rusher across from Garrett Charlie Campbell or 710 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: guest raft analysts at Walter Football. In the third round, 711 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: you have us scoring defensive tackle Perry and Winfrey out 712 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma UM. You can talk about him specifically, but 713 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: also just that position is is there a name that 714 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: if you were to drop and Nathan I pretty strongly 715 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: receiver d end at forty four feels like the way 716 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: that it is. And then from that point on we'll 717 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: see we know that there is a needed defensive tackle. 718 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: Is there a name at d tackle that if somehow 719 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: they were to drop to forty four would be too 720 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: good to pass up? And then and then and if 721 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: it is the third round, obviously you like Winfrey? Who else? Yeah, Well, 722 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: I think Davante Wyatt is a name to keep an 723 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: eye on. You know, he had a really good combine, 724 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: showed off a great skill set UM, so he definitely 725 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: could go in the first round and had a good 726 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: UH senior year at Georgia, But some teams aren't as 727 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 1: enamored with him in terms of baggage that comes with him. 728 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: So you know when I've heard that with certain players, 729 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: and then they sometimes are kind of a surprising drop 730 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: because that wasn't well known beforehand. So why it would 731 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: be a player to keep an eye on there. And 732 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: I think he could go in the He could easily 733 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: go in the twenty to thirty five section, but it's 734 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: not out of the realm of possibility that he'd flipped 735 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: into the forties given that some teams aren't as comfortable 736 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: with him and the personality front UH. And then in 737 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: the third round, yeah, I think Winfree would be an 738 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: excellent pick as an interior pass rusher needs to get 739 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: stronger and tougher against the run. But in the third 740 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: round you expect to get some players that need development 741 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: and certain parts of their skill set and as players, 742 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: so you're not going to get a you know, perfect 743 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: specimen in the third round, a plug and start, but 744 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: Winfree would be a really nice interior pass rusher that 745 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: they could work with as a run defender, and he 746 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: has the skill set to potentially become a three down 747 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: starter and then there you know, otherwise this isn't a 748 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: great draft for interior defensive line, but Neil Farrell from 749 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: l s U could give them more of that bigger 750 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: bodied run stuffer, a guy that can eat up blockers 751 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: and kind of help free up the linebackers to run 752 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: and chase. Uh So, and they have a guy that 753 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: can play some three technique in Jordan Elliott, so in 754 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: those tackle like Farrell could be worthy of consideration as well. 755 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: When I asked you real quickly about one edge that 756 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: whose name just keeps popping up and I keep seeing 757 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: him compared to Emmanuel Agba, who was drafted at a 758 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: time when Andrew Barry was here with the Browns, so 759 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: they liked him. Josh Pascal from Kentucky. Where what's kind 760 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: of the range where you expect him to go. It's 761 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: just a name I've just I've seen a lot lately. Yeah, 762 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: he's been a riser later in the process. Uh he 763 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 1: kind of I think in the beginning was a little 764 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: bit overlooked because he has a bit of a tweener 765 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: body type in terms of end tackle uh kind of player. 766 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: But he is just such a hard nosed football player 767 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 1: and a natural football player if you watch a lot 768 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: of SEC football like I do. Of course, he's been 769 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: a real presence the past few years. No one year 770 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: wonder with him. He's tough at the line of scrimmage plays. 771 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: His tail off is tough against the ron. Even though 772 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: he's not the biggest of guys. He holds his ground 773 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: well and he shows some wiggle and quickness uh to 774 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: cause some disruption and get some pressure. Uh. Not a 775 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: huge sack guy, but he's a good rusher in terms 776 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: of working with the rush group and helping to harass 777 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback in teams have loved him. He's football i 778 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: Q and character. His really impressed team in the interviews. 779 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: So I think Pascal could end up going in the 780 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: second round. If he flips to the third, he shouldn't 781 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: last long, um, But I think the second round is 782 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: probably the most likely round that he's going to come 783 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: off the board. Charlie campbeller guest draft analysts at Walter Football. 784 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: Let's let's remove us from the equation. You know, let's 785 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: just go big picture with this draft, Um, where are 786 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: you on these quarterbacks? And I kind of we kind 787 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: of wondered at the combine, is it possible that more 788 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: of these guys end up going than maybe their talent 789 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: would justify? What do you think of the group? And 790 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: how many do you think we'll go in that first round? 791 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden done. I think two will 792 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: go in the first round. I think Kenny Pickett and 793 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: Malik Willis will go in the first round. I don't 794 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: think you've just given the temperature from talking to people 795 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 1: with teams that there just isn't a lot of love, 796 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: uh for the other quarterbacks, and even those two, uh 797 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: come with a fair amount of doubt and quarterback needy 798 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: teams deciding that you know, we're gonna go with a 799 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: different direction, or we'll stick with kind of a stop 800 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: gap veteran, for example, like Detroit picking second overall. Obviously 801 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: Jared Goff probably isn't a Super Bowl Championship caliber quarterback, um, 802 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: but they're sticking with him overtaking Picket or Willis because 803 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: they're just not in love with those guys. And I 804 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: think that's a real prevalent feeling around the league. So uh, 805 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: you never know. I mean, I know some teams had 806 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: a fourth round grade on Christian Ponder and the Vikings 807 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: took him twelfth overall, and other teams had you know, 808 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: ej Manuel buried uh In the Bills took him in 809 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: the top half of the first round. So you know, 810 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: the old adage of it only takes one is always 811 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: so true. So maybe there is a surprise quarterback like 812 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter Sam Howell that it was in the first 813 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: but I think that would that would be a real 814 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: shocker to me. I think you'll see Willis and pick 815 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: it go on the first and then you know a 816 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: few more guys on day two. But this isn't really 817 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: the year for to be taking a quarterback. If the 818 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: teams that take a quarterback, I think this year are 819 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: more in the in that department because they couldn't get 820 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: one in free agency. You know, the teams that lost 821 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: out on DeShawn Carolina for example, losing out on Stafford 822 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 1: and then Deshaun Watson, now they're kind of boxed into 823 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: a corner there. So the teams that that really went 824 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: after it, whether it was the Colts, the Browns, the Broncos, uh, 825 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, they they really were aggressive and now they're 826 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: sitting in a better position. Leave you with this one. 827 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: If you go defensive end first, who would be a 828 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: third round receiver that you would be psyched about for 829 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: the Browns to pair with Deshaun Watson. Well, Calvin Austin, 830 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: the speedster from Memphis, I think could go second, third round. 831 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: I would be really excited to see him with Deshaun Watson. 832 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: That guy is just the bulk of lightning on the 833 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: football field, just so fast, and I think across the 834 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: field from Amari Cooper he'd be a great bit. And 835 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: Deshaun throws a great deep ball. The accuracy on his 836 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: deep ball's phenomenal. So uh, you know, a guy like 837 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: Austin I think could could mimic some of the big 838 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: plays he had downfield with Will Fuller uh in Houston 839 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: and then a Cooper could do a lot more of 840 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: what they did with that DeAndre Hopkins. So Austin definitely 841 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: jumps out at me. Alec Pierce from Cincinnati. I've had 842 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: some scouts day reminds them of Jordy Nelson coming out 843 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: of Kansas State. He's big and fast. I think he's 844 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: being overlooked a little bit, but Uh. If you look 845 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: at not only what he did at Cincinnati, but then 846 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: at the combine when he's about six two pounds and 847 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: runs like a four or four flat um, the skill 848 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: set is there, and he was a really good receiver 849 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: for Desmond Ritter. So I would be so psyched for 850 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 1: the Browns if they were able to land Austin or 851 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce there. Uh and at pick Charlie, great stuff, man, 852 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for your time today, appreciate it. Thanks for 853 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: having me. Great talking with you guys. All right, that's 854 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: Charlie Campbell, draft analyst at Walter Football O b M, 855 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: Ohio Business Machine preferred copyr provider of your Cleveland Browns. 856 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: Have all the X and oes to your office. I 857 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: encourage you to give him a call at two on 858 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: sud or visit Ohio Business Machines dot com. We will 859 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: go around the league and take a look at what 860 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: could be our number four draft need coming up in 861 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: the second hour of the program. You lift into Cleveland 862 00:46:47,960 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: Browns Daily. Cleveland Brown's Day Runkey Waste Recycling, family owned 863 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: and operated. Whether you joined them as a customers an 864 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: employee will become part of the family. Visit Rumkey dot com. 865 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: To learn more. You told me in the break that 866 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: you have a quote that you want to read for me, 867 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: or something has come across your attention. Spans brought to mind. 868 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: I saw you get a kick out of it. I 869 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: guess they're doing that. The Jags have reported they have 870 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: a new coach. So there were the teams that have 871 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: reported h and Travis et En was doing a media availability. 872 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 1: Of course, missed his entire rookie season with a list 873 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 1: frank injury. Uh. He was asked about, you know, missing 874 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: that season amidst all of the Jags drama with Urban Meyer, 875 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: and he said, quote, if there was any year to miss, 876 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 1: I missed a great one. Cheez. I mean he's not wrong, 877 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: all right. So I was so that So this is 878 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,439 Speaker 1: this got me thinking. And Urban was in the news 879 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: over the weekend because of, uh, you know, reacting to 880 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: the tragedy of the loss of Dwayne Haska. So I 881 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: saw him quoted again around Columbus and stuff, and it 882 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: got me thinking about there are sports figures who are 883 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: beloved in certain places and completely disliked everywhere else. There 884 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: aren't many of them, I think, And I don't know 885 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: that Myers even beloved in Columbus. I think he's loved, liked, loved, 886 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: I think I think that not liked at all. So 887 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: it's a short list. I think what he's probably the 888 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: best example what he Hayes is beloved in Ohio and 889 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: in Columbus, and most people just remember the end of 890 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: what he has if you didn't grow up here. My 891 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: point of reference on what he Hayes was he seemed 892 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: like a crazy man who strangled a kid, like on 893 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: the field. That's what it seemed like to me as 894 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: a kid. And then I moved to Columbus, was like, 895 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: oh what he did all of these things and he 896 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 1: was incredible and it was all of this positive stuff 897 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: and he's revered. But he's revered here. I don't know 898 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: that he is elsewhere. The only the most the current 899 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: contemporary best example of this, I think his Barry Bonds, 900 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,479 Speaker 1: who probably gets along quite well in San Francisco where 901 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: they seem to kind of be cool with him, and 902 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: he's from provide a bunch of great moments, A legacy guy. 903 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: He chose to play there. He could have played anywhere 904 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: leaving Pittsburgh, chose to play in San Francisco UM and 905 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: then provided all these great memories for people who live there. 906 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: But it feels like he's he could kind of only 907 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: be home there. Yeah, like everywhere else. What's his CUE rating? Nothing? No, disgraced, disgraced, 908 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: But in San Francisco. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he played 909 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: his high school baseball at Sarah. So I think he's 910 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: from his dad would have his dad played for the Giants, 911 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: So Bobby played with from the Bay Area he was 912 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: born and he was born in Riverside, but he played 913 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: in high school. Yeah, it's Sarah. I had that right. So, yeah, 914 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 1: he's been around the Bay but I think you're right, 915 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: that's where he would That's where he's going to have 916 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, which great place to be. Yeah, you 917 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: know he's doing quite well. Where where's the where's his neighborhood? 918 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: You think that where he lives? Now, if your berry 919 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: bonds and you have his resources, which I mean in 920 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: the Bay Area, you can need a lot of resources 921 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 1: to live the type of way you want to live. 922 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: But where would you live if you lived in the 923 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: city itself? Yeah, well, Baker's Beach, which is like where 924 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: you live in some of the mansion's twin peaks. I 925 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: guess where you'd probably my guess is he lives in 926 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,840 Speaker 1: Marin County. You go and you live in Wrinte County. 927 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: Is that north? Or's over? South? Is San Jose not south? 928 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: So north? So is it across like Golden Gate, like Salsalto. Yeah, 929 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: I like a SCE is great. Had a fantastic lunch, 930 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: then Salsalito. Then you get down into Montecito. All the ETOs, 931 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 1: all the atos are winds. You never have a bad 932 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: ato in California. We were engaged in Wine Country and 933 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: on the way to wine country, we had a nice 934 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: little lunch in Salsalto that I remember quite well. No 935 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: boredom in wine country. No God, you're thriving, says this 936 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: big a thrive as ever? I mean, really is that's 937 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: the place like if I could, if I ever, Mama, 938 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: I made it, If you could have be one of 939 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: those people who makes it to the degree where you 940 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: can have a house on the hill on mountain veter 941 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: overlooking the valley and vines and grow your own wine. 942 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean that seems pretty much like you're living in 943 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: I had no real appreciation or knowledge of it when 944 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,320 Speaker 1: we went there. We got engaged in two thousand eight 945 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: UM and had no real. I wasn't a big wine 946 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: drinker or anything. Um, I know said, I never never 947 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: took the short drive two hour drive north. Um. But 948 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: when we were there, I said that to my wife. 949 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: I said, like, if something were ever to aligne to 950 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: where you could, you had do whatever the heck you want. 951 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: This is where you go. There's no doubt, like just 952 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:50,439 Speaker 1: the air, the skies, it's just flawless. The food, it's 953 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 1: it's have it on earth. It's pretty good. The only 954 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: there's California's got three of those, have got that place. Um, 955 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: they've got that Big Sir area there. The only thing 956 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: with that area, the Carmel Big sur area is a 957 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: little cooler. You know, you're like in the sixties. So 958 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: that's what you are playing and living. Are living in 959 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: Pebble Beach and it's quarters zips. By the way. How 960 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: about the Nantucket Reds on that photo I sent you 961 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 1: have nance pre masters. I mean just an absolute so 962 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 1: just an embarrassment of riches. I'm the greatest and you 963 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: know it. I know it, and I know it, and 964 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna rock them. And what are you gonna say? 965 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: And we're all good with it? You're right? Um? And 966 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: then the other Santa Barbara is pretty dang good. That's 967 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: pretty good spot that Santa Barbara Monticito area is a win. 968 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: They do. They do well for themselves in the California. Um, 969 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: do you want to do a couple of these football things? 970 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: You want to want me to hit you with one 971 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: other sports observation? You go one more observation than we'll 972 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: get into. Then we'll get into football, all right. Stephen Quan, 973 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: the the Guardians guy who hits every time, he's like 974 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: six ninety or something like Aready said on barstool he's 975 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: probably the best baseball player ever. He might be, Yeah, 976 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 1: he might be. So I was looking into him this morning, 977 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: like and this is novice baseball, and this isn't necessarily 978 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 1: meant to get into a baseball conversation at all. In fact, 979 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: it's not. I was trying to think of who are 980 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: people who burst on the scene out of nowhere and 981 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 1: in some cases no question, that's that's a great one. 982 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: But was he I don't remember was he? Was it 983 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: known that he was going to be good? It was 984 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: not Fernando Mania came out. I remember the Mania, but 985 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember, like, was he like a prospect that 986 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: people thought would be good or but not not like that, 987 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: not like how he was. And that's probably the best example. 988 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: Jeremy Lynn. Jeremy Lynn was the first one that I 989 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: thought of. Insanity came out of nowhere. It was like 990 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: a month stretch with the Knicks where he hit everything 991 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 1: game he hit everything. I felt like he hit game winners. 992 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: Carmelo was on that team. He was jealous of it, 993 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 1: like it was a weird dynamic, but he like owned 994 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: Manhattan for a month and a half. Yeah. Yeah. The 995 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: other one I thought of from a baseball standpoint, and 996 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 1: I should have gone to Fernando, but that I missed 997 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: was Quig m hm yah. Cel Puig was shot out 998 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 1: of a cannon. There was a crazy story about he 999 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: was smuggled from Cuba into Mexico and hidden and then 1000 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: brought up and then just went lights out for the Dodgers, 1001 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: like hit four eighty, hit a home run almost like 1002 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: felt like every other day he was hitting a home run. 1003 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: And he had this physical part to his game that 1004 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: was almost bo Jackson esque. Um, there aren't many examples 1005 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: of it. He fizzled, right, he did, but he ended 1006 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: up doing like he's a two eighty hitter career. He's 1007 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 1: a two eighty career hitter, like a hundred and thirty 1008 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: two home runs. Like, I think what happened with him 1009 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 1: and he had a stint here, I think what ended 1010 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 1: up happened with him was like you know, like with 1011 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys, like the pain in the 1012 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: neck became a little bit more than the talent, you know, 1013 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: the off field stuff. Eyelash, my eyes kill him. Um, 1014 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, those are the guys that anybody else I missed. 1015 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 1: Who's is there a football guy who did that? Who 1016 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: burst and then was extinguished. He was kind of a comment. 1017 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 1: You can make the case Peyton Hills. There's a great one. 1018 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: That's a great one. That's a great one that's out 1019 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: of nowhere. That was out of nowhere and won me 1020 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: if fantasy title. I remember picking him up on the wire, 1021 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: gone very quickly. Yeah, that's a great one. It's a 1022 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: good job at you priest's homes for like a little 1023 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: bit more longevity. But when you go back, like it 1024 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,760 Speaker 1: was really three years, but he was for three years. 1025 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: He was like the best player in football for three 1026 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: years and then gone, I've got a list here, okay, uh, 1027 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: let me scroll through Buster Douglas. It's a little different 1028 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: because it's a one hit. That's a one hits really 1029 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: a one hit wonder. And I love Buster and I've 1030 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: gotten to know him through the years. Great human. Um. Yeah, 1031 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean that that there's no that's one of the 1032 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: biggest upsets in the history of sports. Don mccowski, the 1033 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,439 Speaker 1: Magic Man that one season in Green Bay with Sterling Sharp, 1034 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: Dana Barrows. I don't feel like the league for a 1035 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: while now, and that was it wasn't quite as big 1036 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: as Splash. I don't no no control. Davis came out 1037 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 1: of nowhere. Yep. I don't know if this one counts 1038 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: or not. Brady Anderson, that was on him and Bret Boone, 1039 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: like they both had Anderson at the fifty home runs, yeah, 1040 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: and Brett Boone at a year when he hit like 1041 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 1: three home runs a hundred and fifty some r b 1042 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: I And I'm pretty sure Brady Anderson's best before that 1043 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: was like maybe twenty. That was Bond. That was the 1044 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: creatine and you know they called it creatine, steroids, the 1045 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 1: whole whatever it was. He went. So the year where 1046 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about when he hit fifty, the year before that, 1047 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: the three years prior he combined to hit forty one. 1048 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: The three years prior he combined to hit forty one, 1049 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: and then he hits fifty. The two years immediately after 1050 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: that he hits a combine mind thirty six. Wow, ikey Woods, 1051 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,919 Speaker 1: there's a good one. I knew that there was one 1052 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: here in the Denver offense with Shanahan Orlandis Gary yep 1053 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: yards seven score, next best season was three four yards 1054 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. Mike Anderson would be, I mean there 1055 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: was a wildward some that was just like that was 1056 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: just the Shanahan thing, Like it didn't matter. Their offensive 1057 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: line was so good that it kind of didn't matter 1058 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: who it was um NFL wise, Scott Mitchell yep. Detroit Lions, 1059 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell ever good in the NFL. It was good 1060 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: enough to get a big contract. Some of that was 1061 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 1: like that. That kind of happened in Matt Flynn too, though, 1062 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 1: like he had like one start and then that got 1063 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: him paid and then Russ beat him out in the 1064 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: rest his history. Now see in ninety five Detroit Lions 1065 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell torch the NFL, setting franchise records for passing 1066 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: yards four thousand, three d and touchdowns thirty two while 1067 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: throwing just swelled by in t s. I mean, yeah, 1068 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: he was the backup to Marino, you know, and at 1069 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: that point, like everyone was trying to find the you know, 1070 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: it was like this the Steve Young, Steve Bono thing 1071 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: that like find the backup to the great quarterback who 1072 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: had been groomed Mark. The same thing happened happened in 1073 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: Green Bay with like Mark Burnell, he's a backup. Like 1074 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: everybody just wanted somebody who was in that system who 1075 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: was groomed. Right, So there's a couple I and I don't. 1076 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 1: The quand thing was that he comes out of nowhere 1077 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: like he's there was no not to say that it's 1078 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 1: not sustainable, but like in any way shape or four 1079 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 1: articles that he surpassed three thousand hits in his eighth season. 1080 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Uh. Gabe Warner tweets out the show 1081 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: from earlier our conversation currently on a bus full of 1082 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 1: eighth graders on the way to d C. God bless 1083 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: you game gave. There's hope you brought a flask your cologne. 1084 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: Takes hit close also reminds me of my eighth grade experience. 1085 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: In eighth grade, my aunt's got me a Calvin Clin 1086 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: cologne sampler. Do you think that was all of our 1087 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 1: parents and aunts and uncles and grandparents just saying, look, 1088 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: you guys stink and you don't shower enough, and we 1089 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: got to cover it up. Man. I don't know, because 1090 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: there was a big thing. Is that still a thing? 1091 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: Like the eighth grade kids rock cologne like we did? 1092 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: It was I don't know if they do. I just 1093 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: think it was the thing. And they were always the 1094 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: gift box. It was just an easy you could go 1095 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: buy it. You would walk into the stores back then 1096 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: and they would be right there and be like, oh, 1097 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: this is a nice thing for little Tommy. Yeah he 1098 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: might enjoy this. Yeah, alright, very good. By the way. 1099 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: One other development here from rap Sheet in the last 1100 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes. Former Chiefs pass rusher Melvin Ingram visiting 1101 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: the Dolphins today. He played very well for the Chiefs 1102 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 1: down the stretch. It's crazy to me that did not 1103 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: work out at all for him with the Pittsburgh Steelers 1104 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: because they just like I think they cut him and 1105 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: he went to the chief seems like at the end 1106 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: at the mid of the season and he was very 1107 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: very good. Um, By the way, I was just looking 1108 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: this up about Fernando Valenzuela. So he began his baseball 1109 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: career UH with the Guanacado two Zos of the Mexican 1110 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Central League. He was five and six with the two 1111 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 1: point to e R. A following year, it was absorbed 1112 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: in the expanded Mexican League, elevating the eighteen year old 1113 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: to the Triple A level. He pitched for the Leonis 1114 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 1: the Yucatan that year, went ten and twelve with the 1115 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,439 Speaker 1: two point four nine R. A number of MLB teams 1116 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: scouted Venezuela during this time. The Dodgers had a guy 1117 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: there and they signed him. They bought out his contract 1118 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: on July six and twenty K so he wasn't like 1119 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: dreamed that he was discovered. Old school scouting goes to 1120 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Started off at the high A level the 1121 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: lowd eye Dodgers moves up quickly, ends up getting called 1122 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: up at the end of eighty pitches seventeen and two 1123 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 1: thirds scoreless innings um at the end of his rookie 1124 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: season and then the next year he was named the 1125 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: opening day starter as a rookie after Jerry Royce was injured. 1126 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Twenty four hours before his schedule start and Burt Hooton 1127 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: was not ready to fill in, shut them out, and 1128 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: then all of that he started Season eight, No. Five 1129 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 1: shoutouts the r A A point five and Fernandomania was born, 1130 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 1: so great thirty thirty totally out of nowhere. Yeah, yeah, great. 1131 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 1: That was probably the best. That's probably the best example 1132 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 1: of it of that type of circumstance happening. Um, all right, 1133 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: we will, we'll go around the league couple of a 1134 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 1: couple of notes here, we'll get to We'll get to 1135 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 1: that coming up next, uh Nick Shook, coming up at 1136 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. You listen to Cleland Browns 1137 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Daily Ones and Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily e S D 1138 01:01:36,800 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: and Cleveland. Your business is shopping for an enterprise operating 1139 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: systems partner, but you don't know where to begin. 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There's a CBS 1153 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 1: Sports report and certainly Baker would apply to this as 1154 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 1: well in terms of landing spots for quarterbacks. And I 1155 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: think one thing that could happen and one thing to 1156 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: watch for in the draft here, um is, once that 1157 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 1: draft just completed, if there is a run on quarterbacks 1158 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: that happens in the first round, or if you are 1159 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: let's just say in the most likely place for this 1160 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 1: would be Carolina. If you are Carolina and there's a 1161 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: guy you like, I believe they pick at six. There's 1162 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: a guy you like at six that is off the board. 1163 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: So let's say they love Malik Willis. But let's say 1164 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: somebody went and got him, which would be aggressive, which 1165 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: would be quite aggressive but let's say that that happened, 1166 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,439 Speaker 1: then I think Carolina, with year four of Matt rule, 1167 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 1: having missed on Stafford and having missed on Watson, I 1168 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: do not think that they would just say, hey, Sam Donald, 1169 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: let's give it another go. I don't I think that 1170 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 1: would be a team that would be aggressive for Garoppolo 1171 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 1: or Baker should the draft doesn't not fall the way 1172 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,920 Speaker 1: that they wanted to. I agree with that wholeheartedly. And 1173 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 1: I do think that we are getting near the point 1174 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: where we're gonna see some action, you know, on that front. 1175 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: And Jason Lackinford reported yesterday that, uh, you know, he 1176 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: doesn't think this Baker situation will go on much longer 1177 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: because he doesn't think that, you know, the Browns wanted 1178 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: to go on much longer and neither does Baker, and 1179 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to, you know, figure 1180 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 1: this out. And I think the Browns have still a 1181 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: roster in which there are clear needs and we'll talk 1182 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: about those in a second, but there are also positions 1183 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 1: of great strength, and so I think the Browns do 1184 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: have some flexibility if they want to explore, you know, 1185 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: creative moves or perhaps bigger packages to make a move 1186 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: that could net assets or players or all of the above. 1187 01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that necessarily that's got to be baker 1188 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: in one deal. It could be a bigger deal in 1189 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: that and well, I don't know what that would be, 1190 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,000 Speaker 1: but that's something I think that we'll see as the 1191 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: draft gets closer. I think the draft is look the 1192 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: draft or immediately in the wake of the draft your point, 1193 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: are the most obvious times to have a deal be made? Absolutely? Uh. 1194 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: And then this today the congressional hearings in d C 1195 01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: in regard to the Washington football team and their owner, 1196 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder, and Warren Sharp doing a pretty good job 1197 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: of chronicling everything that happened here. And we've been wondering 1198 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: if there was anything that could happen that would force 1199 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder to sell, knowing that none of the owners 1200 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 1: want any part of setting that precedent. They want no 1201 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: part of it. But it did happen in the NBA 1202 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: with Donald Sterling, and it may happen with Dan Snyder. 1203 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 1: And maybe this is the final straw here. Warren Sharp 1204 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 1: chronicling this on his Twitter um so in this report 1205 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: in the in this report into the investigation of Dan Snyder, 1206 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 1: he raised prices and categorized surplus revenue as bogus license 1207 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: fees related to concerts in college football games to prevent 1208 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 1: sharing with other owners. Yeah, that seems like it's a 1209 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: bit yeah. Um included in that he also took um 1210 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 1: affordable general admission tickets and then sold in bulk to 1211 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: third party brokers. Uh. He told fans that tickets are 1212 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: sold out, then they tell fans they had no their 1213 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 1: option to attend either join under sixty waitlist or by 1214 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: a pre ticket. Um. It's a twenty page dock from 1215 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,640 Speaker 1: the Committee of Oversight and Reform that has now made public. 1216 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 1: And did if you mentioned the hypologism here but the 1217 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: five million dollars in refundable deposits from season ticket holders 1218 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: that they withheld. Oh I did not read that part. 1219 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot to this. Yeah. Wow, that's the athletic headline. 1220 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: The Commanders and owner Daniel Snyder allegedly withheld up to 1221 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: five million and refundable deposits from season ticket holders, according 1222 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 1: to a letter to from Congress to the FTC. They 1223 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: also hid money that was supposed to be shared among 1224 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 1: NFL owners. And then, to your point, the tickets where 1225 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 1: they said it was sold out and forced people to 1226 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: join wait lists or by these premium seats. Yeah, I 1227 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,960 Speaker 1: mean this one is going I feel like this is 1228 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: going to have to be. It feels like this might 1229 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: be where it's gonna have to be dealt with. It 1230 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 1: appears that he was running two sets of books. This 1231 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,479 Speaker 1: is a quote. Um, there are a set of books 1232 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 1: that kept internally shown to Mr Cider and his inner circle. 1233 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,480 Speaker 1: Maybe that shows what we actually did, which would include 1234 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 1: the juice. Not great, not great, not great. Um. I'll 1235 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,439 Speaker 1: tell you what if if they do, if somebody does 1236 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 1: that and they force sale of that, if I were 1237 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: the person buying that team, I would rebrand them the 1238 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: Washington Red Hogs tomorrow, and I would make movement to 1239 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 1: move the stadium to back to d C. I don't 1240 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,479 Speaker 1: know that's tricky, I'm sure, but you do those two 1241 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: things and away you go. Yeah, come with you, get 1242 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,479 Speaker 1: rid of the nickname stadium. I don't care what you do. 1243 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 1: Stadium's garbage. Well, that predated him. Jack can't cook built 1244 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: that stadium. Um, but he did stuff out there, like 1245 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: where you couldn't park if you know, if you park 1246 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: somewhere other than their stadium and paid their fees you 1247 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 1: know you couldn't get that all of that stuff, So 1248 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: there's um, yeah, it's brutal. It's brutal across the board. 1249 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: I just how much can you how much can a 1250 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: league withstand from an ownership standpoint before it says enough, 1251 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,439 Speaker 1: It's enough. That's it, And it feels like we're there 1252 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: with him with this stuff going public. So um, we 1253 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 1: will see about that. 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Was there a 1272 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 1: good buddy, Nick Shuck, Nick Shuck. He joins us NFL 1273 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,599 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey buddy, before we get in all the football, 1274 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 1: what was your first cologne as a kid. Yeah, Calvin 1275 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 1: Kline one. Wow, so forward, you could wear it your 1276 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:59,759 Speaker 1: girlfriend everybody. Incredible marketing campaign, kind of a frosted glass 1277 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: can container on that. Yeah. Did you ever wear that 1278 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 1: with a significant other so that when't like they knew, 1279 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 1: Oh here it comes the shooks coming to town smell? Yeah, 1280 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 1: yeah you could it. It's always been mine and mine alone, 1281 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, I have and to this day, Oh yeah, 1282 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I occasionally used a little uh uh ysl or I 1283 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 1: like Chanelle Blue. Man. You know, I first smelled Chanelle 1284 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,800 Speaker 1: Blue and I was like nineteen. I was like, that 1285 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: smells good, just every once in a blue moon. Sure, wow, 1286 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 1: cultured man, Yeah, it really is. It's spectacular. God, bless 1287 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: you man. How you hey? You know we were talking, um, 1288 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 1: this has been as quiet a two weeks as we 1289 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 1: can remember. There's just been nothing league. I mean, little 1290 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 1: stuff here and there. There's big business stuff right shook 1291 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: like this Daniel Snyder stuff that kind of draw today 1292 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 1: this is you know, just continues to add to the 1293 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 1: list of things with him. But business in terms of 1294 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 1: free agency and that stuff has been pretty quiet for 1295 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 1: the last ten days. What do you think the reason 1296 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: for that is? I can tell you that I've never 1297 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 1: felt more thankful for things slowing down the month of 1298 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,839 Speaker 1: I think, and you know, I don't think it's just phases, 1299 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 1: you know. I think we go through cycles or the 1300 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 1: first phase of free agency was crazy, and it was 1301 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 1: even crazier because of trades. And then once the quarterback carouse, 1302 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 1: I'll start to slow down and the duff kind of settled, 1303 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, teams were left to you know, kind of 1304 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: maybe discuss a little bit with some of those veteran 1305 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: guys who are out there on the market who may 1306 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 1: or may not have much of a market um or 1307 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,760 Speaker 1: much demand kind of waiting them out, I think, and 1308 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 1: also just looking towards the draft, and and you know, 1309 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 1: like declays Campbell, thing happened and and that made a 1310 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 1: lot of sense, um, But I think that's about like 1311 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,840 Speaker 1: the level of ideally you're gonna get done at this 1312 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 1: point until you get to the draft. Now, after the draft, 1313 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: we can see some more movement because then teams really 1314 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 1: know where they where they are. But as of now, 1315 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 1: I think pretty it's every team has checked off every 1316 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,600 Speaker 1: major goal on their list, and then we'll just go 1317 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: into the draft and short things up from there. Shook, 1318 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 1: when we go through the great things at NFL dot com, 1319 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 1: obviously we gravitate immediately to Nick Shook's work because it 1320 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 1: is fine. It is just it's elite, it's electric. But 1321 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: we also came across the great article about the gray Beards, 1322 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,800 Speaker 1: and the gray Beards the thirty and over team right now, 1323 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: which I think maybe could make the playoffs in the 1324 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 1: NFC quite frankly, although Clay is Campbell off the list, 1325 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,559 Speaker 1: When you look at the kind of the amount of 1326 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: talent that is still out there right now in the 1327 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 1: National Football League available before this draft, are you expecting 1328 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: to see kind of a draft and then a flurry 1329 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 1: of action where these veterans signed with teams or or 1330 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,120 Speaker 1: how do you see this all playing out? Because it's 1331 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 1: almost unprecedented the amount of talent that's out there at 1332 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 1: important positions too. You know, I think they saw something 1333 01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 1: similar to this happened in baseball a few years ago, 1334 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 1: where there was like no offseason movement at all and 1335 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 1: the market was just completely depressed. UM and values were 1336 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: just you know, falling dramatically. UM. I think it's it 1337 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 1: was because of a standoff the team's unwilling to actually 1338 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,439 Speaker 1: go after guys and offer contracts. I think you're kind 1339 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 1: of getting a little bit of that right now. UM. 1340 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 1: And and the fact that you know, like you said, 1341 01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 1: there is a lot of talent still out there, and 1342 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 1: I do expect a lot of that to to figure 1343 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 1: itself out after the draft, like you said, because you know, 1344 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have an idea. It's not that these guys 1345 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 1: don't have ideas of it at this point, but you're 1346 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: gonna have an even better idea of where these teams 1347 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 1: are because we know, I mean, if you look at 1348 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,719 Speaker 1: the team the league right now, you know the teams 1349 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 1: that are all in that are going for it right now, 1350 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 1: but what do they still need after the draft. That's 1351 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,599 Speaker 1: when some of these guys who are looking to latch 1352 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,639 Speaker 1: onto a title contender, can find their best fit, maybe 1353 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,640 Speaker 1: get the most money. Maybe a team goes in and 1354 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,680 Speaker 1: is looking for a corner that they can get in 1355 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 1: the first round, they swing and miss on all those guys, 1356 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 1: they end up, you know, taking to me in the 1357 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,080 Speaker 1: third or fourth round. That's too much of to ask 1358 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,120 Speaker 1: of a Day two or a Day three guy. Let's 1359 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 1: go get a veteran who's still out there, who can 1360 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,640 Speaker 1: still make an impact, because we need somebody to make 1361 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: an impact right now, and I think a lot of 1362 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 1: that's gonna come after. It is interesting, though, I think 1363 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 1: everything sit in the NFL landscape is changing so rapidly 1364 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: that we just repeatedly find us ourselves sitting back for 1365 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,719 Speaker 1: just a moment to realize, Wow, this is so unique, 1366 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,760 Speaker 1: this is so different, This is so unlike how it 1367 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 1: used to be. And I think the TV money has 1368 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 1: a lot to do with that and what we expect 1369 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 1: to come in in future, you know, financial winfalls and 1370 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 1: everything else. But I also just think that you know, 1371 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 1: I mean, went back to the regular season, the way 1372 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,400 Speaker 1: the craziness of the regular season, it's going over to 1373 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 1: the off season. Quarterback movement everything else. We're in a 1374 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,360 Speaker 1: new era. I can say it confidently now. We're in 1375 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 1: a new era of the NFL. We are, and part 1376 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 1: of the era is that of player empowerment and quarterbacks 1377 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,719 Speaker 1: demanding out and moving. And the Browns obviously get Deshaun Watson. 1378 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in a second. Russell Wilson goes 1379 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 1: to Denver. But you know, we talked earlier today about 1380 01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: some of the comments coming out of Baltimore on Lamar Jackson. 1381 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 1: It just if I was a fan of the Ravens 1382 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 1: and a Lamar Jackson fan wanted him to be their 1383 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 1: court it just feels like something weird's going on there. 1384 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 1: What do you make of what's going on with the 1385 01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 1: Ravens and Lamar Jackson? Yeah, you feel a little nervous 1386 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,719 Speaker 1: when I mean it's it's I can understand from Lamar's 1387 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: perspective waging this out and trying to maximize this value. 1388 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,600 Speaker 1: But the value is pretty damn high. I mean, and 1389 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Rogers had just had over a fifty million year committed 1390 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,080 Speaker 1: to him, you know, a few seasons down the line. 1391 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 1: But in that extension, you saw the deal that Shaun 1392 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,200 Speaker 1: was guaranteed. I mean, the ceiling has never been higher, 1393 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 1: The bar has never been higher for the quarterback market, 1394 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 1: So why not strike a deal. It's not like, you know, 1395 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: the next guy to go is gonna set the market. 1396 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 1: It's it's your time now if you Lamar Jackson's sign. 1397 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 1: It is strange and and it's the strangest part about 1398 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 1: it is, as you said, Eric to Costa, the way 1399 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,479 Speaker 1: he's talked about that, you know, I can't just tell 1400 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 1: Lamar to come in here and get it done. He's 1401 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,720 Speaker 1: got to have to indicate interest, and it hasn't. It's 1402 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 1: this is a team that built itself around Lamar. And 1403 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sew any discord or you know, 1404 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, uncertainty with the team, but it is interesting 1405 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,799 Speaker 1: that they're going to go into this season it seems 1406 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: without an extension. Now there's a lot of time left. 1407 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: Of course, you've got about four months for the preseason anyway, 1408 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: so there's plenty of time time left. But if it 1409 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,600 Speaker 1: continues the way it's going right now, you know, this 1410 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 1: is a team that completely remodel itself to to fit 1411 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 1: its quarterback that may not be under contract beyond this year, 1412 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 1: and that does cause some murray and the fact that 1413 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, they've kind of just taken, you know, pretty 1414 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 1: blunt statements or stances on the matter is a little 1415 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: bit unique compared to some other situations with other players. Yeah, 1416 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 1: you kind of have to feel, don't you that it's 1417 01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 1: almost like it's gotten to him where they want to 1418 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: be and it's nowhere near where he wants to be, 1419 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 1: and this is his protest. That's kind of the only 1420 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 1: thing I can think of. And I'm sure the deal 1421 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 1: we gave to Shaun is not helping matters from his perspective, 1422 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 1: or there's and there's I think there's clear trepidation on 1423 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 1: their side that we don't want to do a quarter 1424 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 1: billion on this because who knows, and and he's going 1425 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,760 Speaker 1: we'll find then if you're not going to do that, 1426 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: then the hell with you, I'm gonna do this. I'm 1427 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 1: gonna go this route. It does feel like we're trying 1428 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 1: to real This all came up Shoo because Z and 1429 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 1: I were talking about who could be the next guy 1430 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 1: who could kind of force his way, and the only 1431 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: two we could come up with was Lamar and Kyler, 1432 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,120 Speaker 1: like they were the next two that could maybe find 1433 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 1: themselves in the position that Russell Wilson was in the 1434 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 1: position that Deshaun Watson was in where it was like, boy, 1435 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 1: really they just had they got new deals, they've been paid, 1436 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 1: now they're on the market. Those are the two names 1437 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,639 Speaker 1: that came up to us. Those are two early similar 1438 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,160 Speaker 1: situations too, because you know the trepidation on on his part, 1439 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,679 Speaker 1: but also I think from an organizational perspective, because let's 1440 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 1: not forget you know, we're going too far removed from 1441 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens going four team two and then getting bounced 1442 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and then the next year waiting the 1443 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 1: playoff game, then getting bounced in the next round. There 1444 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 1: might be a question of how far can he take us? 1445 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 1: Now he's an electrifying player. I'll never dispute that there's 1446 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 1: been a bit of a playbook that's been put out, 1447 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,519 Speaker 1: especially when they've been an adverse situation health wise, to 1448 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 1: shut him down. The Miami Dolphins did it last year 1449 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 1: and a lot of teams deployed that against them from 1450 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,479 Speaker 1: there on out. So the question is what is there 1451 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,680 Speaker 1: seeling And the reason it's similar to Kyler Murray is 1452 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,240 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is a great regular season player for the 1453 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,760 Speaker 1: most part if he's healthy, but when things get tough. 1454 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 1: He has not proven to this point that he's resilient 1455 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,080 Speaker 1: enough to leave the his team to victory through the adversity. 1456 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 1: So the question there is what is the ceiling with 1457 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 1: him as well? They're both electric, dynamic players. Um, they're 1458 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 1: part of this new class and guys who are really 1459 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 1: reshaping the position. But if you're from an organizational standpoint, 1460 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 1: you're in a position we have to commit a lot 1461 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,599 Speaker 1: of money, and the Browns just went and did that. Um, 1462 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd feel a hundre percent confident 1463 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,680 Speaker 1: to to commit that much money to those guys. Uh, 1464 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,519 Speaker 1: if you have those questions, and you know, I think 1465 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 1: it's also really I wasn't surprised at all to hear 1466 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 1: that it was Steve Aschatti, you know, the owner of 1467 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens, the one that was kind of talking publicly 1468 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 1: about the the effects of the Deshaun Watson deal and 1469 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 1: and and guaranteeing that money. Because of course he is 1470 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 1: an owner of a team that's gonna have to make 1471 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 1: a decision on the quarterback, So of course it's going 1472 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,519 Speaker 1: to immediately affect him that down the road we're gonna 1473 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,719 Speaker 1: see the salary cap continue to increase, It's not gonna 1474 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 1: look like that much money down the road. It's gonna 1475 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,679 Speaker 1: be you know, the the annual average per year UH 1476 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 1: salary is going to be pretty affordable on Watson's contract. 1477 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 1: But I think other teams don't want to be the 1478 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,559 Speaker 1: next team to follow that right now, No, you're right 1479 01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,040 Speaker 1: talking with Nick Chuck and Nick, let's talk about Watson. 1480 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Your reaction when you found out, where where are you? 1481 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 1: How did you find out? And then all the range 1482 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,080 Speaker 1: of thoughts, and I'm there's a lot to it, right. 1483 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,560 Speaker 1: There's a football component, there's the non football component. Just 1484 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 1: kind of walk us through your thoughts. I was in 1485 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,120 Speaker 1: my home office, just working away, and the news came down, 1486 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 1: and I was stunned because, you know, the day before 1487 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,760 Speaker 1: you can put out of the running. And that also 1488 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 1: happened to be saying the week of St. Patrick's Day, 1489 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 1: and the vibe in Cleveland was one of a little 1490 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 1: bit of disparates about the quarterback situation because they struck 1491 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,240 Speaker 1: out on Watson Baker. You know, they burned the bridge 1492 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 1: with Baker. They know where to go, so for them 1493 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,719 Speaker 1: to essentially do a one A D and and land 1494 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 1: him from from a football perspective, it's a it's a 1495 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 1: major win. Now. You know, we'll see what happens in 1496 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 1: terms of any potential disciplines from the league and games 1497 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,040 Speaker 1: missed and you know, via suspension, we'll see what happens. 1498 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:45,559 Speaker 1: You know that that stuff remains, And you're right, the 1499 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 1: off field stuff is a lot to unpack as well. Um, 1500 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 1: from a strictly football perspective, it's a huge addition. It's 1501 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,000 Speaker 1: it's massive, it's franchise changing. I think we all understand that. Um, 1502 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, what continues off the field and 1503 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,760 Speaker 1: and what comes of that. Um. The fact that you 1504 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 1: know he's not you know, multiple grandjeuries declined to indict 1505 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,960 Speaker 1: him on on the allegations. I thought that was a significant. 1506 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,640 Speaker 1: I also wouldn't discount you know, would those who have 1507 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 1: alleged you know, I wouldn't just count their their statements either. Um, 1508 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 1: you just kind of have to let that all play 1509 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,599 Speaker 1: out and uh and see where it goes. But yeah, 1510 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 1: from a football perspective, it's it's massive, and I'm sure 1511 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 1: Brown fans can't wait to watch him play football for 1512 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 1: them whatever that does happen. It kind of goes back 1513 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 1: to that you said in one of your earlier comments. 1514 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 1: But we're talking about the a f C and you said, 1515 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't recall so many teams going for it, Nathan, 1516 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 1: I were doing the math. It feels like there's eight 1517 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: teams in the a f C alone that can If 1518 01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 1: you were to ask them, do you consider yourself a 1519 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender? Their answer would be yes. And it 1520 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: felt like there were thirteen teams in the a f 1521 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 1: C that if you said, are you a playoff contender? 1522 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,720 Speaker 1: They would say yes. Of course. I went to state school, Nick, 1523 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 1: so I'm not great at math. But if SA playoffs 1524 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 1: you too, that's a lot out um. I don't know 1525 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,400 Speaker 1: that we've ever seen anything like this now we haven't, 1526 01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,680 Speaker 1: But I also think it's it's indicative of the new landscape. 1527 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 1: I think this is maybe not necessarily the norm, but 1528 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,880 Speaker 1: this is actually not the first fully guaranteed contract for 1529 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback. It's just the first fully guaranteed contract of 1530 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 1: this magnitude. You know, Kirk Cousins said that Mark in Minnesota, 1531 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,000 Speaker 1: which a lot of people were like, Wow, that's insane, 1532 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 1: and it worked out fine for them. Now, of course 1533 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,640 Speaker 1: it's more money. There's too. Deshaun Watson over a longer term. 1534 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:25,519 Speaker 1: But let's also look back at the fact that Kirk 1535 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Cousins got an extension of the Vikings. So um, I 1536 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,439 Speaker 1: don't think it's the worst move for the brown Saies. 1537 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 1: That's what it took to get the deal done. And 1538 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,640 Speaker 1: and and Watson ends up being the guy he was 1539 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,880 Speaker 1: in Houston. I mean, it's all gonna be worth it 1540 01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 1: for them in the end um in terms of, you know, 1541 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 1: production at a position, because if you look at the Browns, 1542 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know this very well, but if 1543 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 1: you look at the Browns of the history, they've had 1544 01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 1: what two quarterbacks that are have like maybe three, we'll 1545 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,040 Speaker 1: go to three. With that type of name recognition. You 1546 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 1: start with Auto Graham, you go to Brian Syfe, and 1547 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 1: then you go to Bernie Kozar. Bernie Kozar last played, 1548 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,800 Speaker 1: but my dad was in you know, his mid to 1549 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,479 Speaker 1: late twenties. And then what's going on to tell me 1550 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 1: the stories about the drive and fumble and all the 1551 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,160 Speaker 1: creatingest of the wild Card game and he sticks against 1552 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:07,760 Speaker 1: the Jets, how people are trying to fight their way 1553 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,880 Speaker 1: back into the stadium that was the long time ago. Okay, 1554 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 1: they have they have a franchise changing quarterback. So I 1555 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,760 Speaker 1: think it's totally worth it if you get that production. Yeah, 1556 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean I spent a couple of hours earlier. I 1557 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 1: think it was late last week watching Watson tape. I mean, 1558 01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,080 Speaker 1: he is simply phenomenal. We're working on a project that 1559 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,439 Speaker 1: I think Browns fans will will certainly be interested in 1560 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:32,320 Speaker 1: the near term. But yeah, this gives you an opportunity 1561 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,400 Speaker 1: to have a guy that when everybody knows you have 1562 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 1: to throw it, that can still execute and throw the 1563 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,720 Speaker 1: football and be effective for your team. And I think 1564 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 1: that really is when you're in a conference that's got 1565 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 1: Mahomes and that's got Josh Allen and Herbert and Russell 1566 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:50,160 Speaker 1: Wilson and Joe Burrow, That's that's what you need to 1567 01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,920 Speaker 1: be able to compete, I think at the highest levels 1568 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,080 Speaker 1: of this conference. And and Deshaun Watson certainly gives you that, Yeah, 1569 01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,519 Speaker 1: without without a doubt. Absolutely, And you know that might 1570 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,040 Speaker 1: speak to the of mar Deck I think too, because 1571 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:02,680 Speaker 1: he won m v P. But like you know, like 1572 01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,160 Speaker 1: we already discussed, um, you know he could you know, 1573 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 1: he's we've seen where he can get them to that point. 1574 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 1: I think DeShawn Watson, it's like I try to explain 1575 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 1: to you know, people who've asked me about this prior 1576 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,280 Speaker 1: to it, because I first heard the rumblings about this 1577 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 1: Sean potentially, you know, being a fit in Cleveland at 1578 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 1: the combine where you know, where everything all the news 1579 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,240 Speaker 1: has exchanged, and it was the term was dark horse. 1580 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,000 Speaker 1: He was a dark horse. Uh, you know, the Cleveland 1581 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 1: was the dark horse to potentially get him. And then 1582 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, obviously that all comes to frustion. But as 1583 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,519 Speaker 1: I you know, as that kind of came out and 1584 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 1: I was talking to people about this, they were like, well, 1585 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,280 Speaker 1: what does he gave that Baker doesn't give you? And 1586 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,240 Speaker 1: it's it's not necessarily that we need to compare one 1587 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 1: to the other. But you've seen what the Browns have 1588 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 1: gotten out of Baker Mayfield get into the playoffs, winning 1589 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 1: the playoff game, and that's what they were saying, Well, 1590 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 1: he want us the playoff game, and that's great, but 1591 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,040 Speaker 1: you eventually that wild card win is not going to 1592 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,360 Speaker 1: be enough. You know, Marty Schadheimer went fourteen in two 1593 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 1: in San Diego and got fired because he didn't get 1594 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: the charges to the super Bowl. You can win a 1595 01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,040 Speaker 1: lot of regular season games. You could win a couple 1596 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,520 Speaker 1: of playoff games. He can't get over the hump. Eventually, 1597 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a bunch of wasted years and wasted talent. 1598 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,800 Speaker 1: And I think Deshaun Watson can get you to the 1599 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 1: super Bowl. And that's why it's a great upgrade between 1600 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:12,679 Speaker 1: I'll get you out of here on this one. Between 1601 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 1: now and the draft, what what do you be keeping 1602 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 1: your eye on anything? Any you'd sense any more business 1603 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 1: between now in the draft or do you think it'll 1604 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 1: be quiet for the next couple of weeks. I mean, 1605 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 1: from the Brown's perspective, I'm curious to see what they 1606 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,000 Speaker 1: do at edge rusher and and that's a big that's 1607 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 1: the one question. Yeah, there's no doubt. That is the 1608 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,599 Speaker 1: biggest unresolved question. Yeah, without doubt. I you know, as 1609 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 1: the days passed, I think it's less and less likely 1610 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,479 Speaker 1: that Jarvis sends it back for the team, But who knows. 1611 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Um. And you know, so that's 1612 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 1: it really from the Brown's perspective. Then you enter the draft, UM, 1613 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:43,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams are kind of in 1614 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,879 Speaker 1: that situation right now, Like we would like we discussed 1615 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,320 Speaker 1: where you know, they they enter the draft, they feel 1616 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: some boys, and then they circle back to the remaining 1617 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,720 Speaker 1: free agents and fill the gaps. Accordingly, I don't see 1618 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 1: a lot of big stuff coming. But then again, you know, 1619 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 1: it does seem a little quiet in the leader to 1620 01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,960 Speaker 1: the draft, maybe because the quarterback class isn't there. But 1621 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 1: next week I'm sure the rumor mill will start up 1622 01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:06,559 Speaker 1: and we'll hear a lot about it, and we'll be 1623 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 1: within a week, you know, within nine days, and it'll 1624 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 1: all get real busy. Always good talking to you, brother, 1625 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Always fun to be on. Love you guys, 1626 01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 1: Love you too, Bunny the Great joining us on the hotline. 1627 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Still so much more to come. You listen to Cleveland 1628 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 1: Brons Daily, Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily, SPN Cleveland Should should 1629 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 1: we hit good day with our sorry that just bringing 1630 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,679 Speaker 1: it back like the old Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily, 1631 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,320 Speaker 1: Nathan's Garbo Bishop. Remember my first microphone. I learned how 1632 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,559 Speaker 1: to talk into it. I was ready for it. Should 1633 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 1: we tell him what's been offered? Is it a firm offer? 1634 01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 1: It felt pretty I'd like you to consider either way. 1635 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:22,000 Speaker 1: I feel like it's intriguing. Give a what would you say? 1636 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 1: Given that clean Browns Daily is the only radio show 1637 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 1: in the world emanating from a studio that was christened 1638 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,720 Speaker 1: by the Secretary of the Navy. What would you say 1639 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,920 Speaker 1: about doing a Cleveland Browns Daily episode live from the 1640 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,800 Speaker 1: flight deck of a naval aircraft carrier in May? Are 1641 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 1: we in the middle of the Gulf? Are we had 1642 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,760 Speaker 1: an undisclosed location we embedded? No, we will be here? No? 1643 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 1: Right here? Right here? Is there? Is it? Like the 1644 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,400 Speaker 1: ships that come through like tours, Like, what do we 1645 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,400 Speaker 1: tell you? Not the director, we could tell you. I 1646 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,160 Speaker 1: used to go to those as a kid. I used 1647 01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,760 Speaker 1: to go to those like they was sudden Like. It 1648 01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 1: feels sounds like a likely scenario. Yeah, what do you 1649 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:12,759 Speaker 1: think about? That just depends on a signal? It feels 1650 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,360 Speaker 1: like a logistically if we could that be something, I mean, 1651 01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:18,639 Speaker 1: you gotta deal with a little wind, it would be awesome. Yeah, 1652 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,200 Speaker 1: that would be all I want to do is somehow 1653 01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 1: parlay that end up hopping in the back of an 1654 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,000 Speaker 1: F fourteen and just take me for our eye. Baby launched. 1655 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,919 Speaker 1: But one time, it's not going to be a carrier 1656 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 1: that's pulling in Cleveland. I don't know that if you 1657 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 1: heard me or not but what I said was from 1658 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,320 Speaker 1: the flight deck flight deck of an aircraft carrier, so 1659 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:41,280 Speaker 1: you're probably chopper situation. No, this is an aircraft aircraft carrier. 1660 01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 1: You cannot get an aircraft carrier, and we had to. 1661 01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 1: We'll get this locked up with privates. We'll get this 1662 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:51,479 Speaker 1: locked um all right, next levels coming up next. We're 1663 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. Enjoy your Tuesday. It's a blue bird Day. 1664 01:27:54,520 --> 01:28:02,760 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Happy birthday, Happy birthday. Grown. Now, if you're 1665 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,120 Speaker 1: get in trouble accounts, she can have a first adult everage. 1666 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 1: She can go to Canada. First one, Next level, next, 1667 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:14,240 Speaker 1: please Brodight fifty Yes week, Cleve, you've been listening to 1668 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, A production of the Cleveland Browns and 1669 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:22,760 Speaker 1: ESPN eight fifty w k n R