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Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson and we are in our ninety

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Speaker 1: six of the Yeah, do we find out what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen with the Steelers quarterback situation? Although reportedly they

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Speaker 1: have made a move today, hasn't been officially announced by

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed to terms to bring Mason Rudolph back. We'll

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Speaker 1: see when that gets announced here, but they don't announce

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Speaker 1: anything until Pennis signed to paper.

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Speaker 3: Right, which a lot of that seems to be happening

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Speaker 3: today with things we already knew.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've already they brought in all the guys today

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Speaker 1: that we already knew about. Had them do that as

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Speaker 1: we speak here, it's become official. Yeah that well, dk

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Speaker 1: metcalf is a Steeler and as they also have signed

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Speaker 3: Okay, those are official in the books, done concrete. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: back to Rudolph. I love it. I mean I just

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Speaker 3: think it gives you a guy you can line up

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Speaker 3: the next two years. It's reportedly a two year deal

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Speaker 3: eight million over two from what they say. Fine, he's

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Speaker 3: that good a player. I'm fine with him there. He's

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Speaker 3: shown he can win games in this league. If Rogers

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Speaker 3: is gonna screw around for who knows how long, all right,

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Speaker 3: I'm done with that, you know, move on. Wilson's taking

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Speaker 3: a tour of Brown's and Giant Land and get the

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Speaker 3: impression he probably won't be back, but who knows. I

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Speaker 3: could write a story where you go with Rudolph in

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Speaker 3: a rookie or and try to win thirteen nine time

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Speaker 3: time again. I mean it's not he's not the next

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Speaker 3: and it's a start. You know.

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Speaker 1: I've heard, though, is that the Steelers can't they can't

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Speaker 1: develop quarterbacks. Mike Tomlin has never developed a quarterback. He

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Speaker 1: had been for fifteen years. Yeah, he didn't. You don't

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Speaker 3: The first round picks to try to replace Ben in

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Speaker 1: Right, right, right, So yeah, you're not going to develop

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in that time period. But that overlooks the

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Speaker 1: fact that they did develop Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 3: Right, he's gotten better and better, and you know, his

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Speaker 3: end of Stintier was pretty darn good. Nobody succeeded in Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: and I think he played bad for the Titans, you know,

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Speaker 3: So No, I think this is a real good pick up.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a chance he's your opening day starter.

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Speaker 3: I mean that sounds far fetched. I think there's I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I assume that think he's number two. I

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's just a lot of different avenues.

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Speaker 1: Ideally, they wanted him back last year and he chose

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Speaker 1: and he was a start and he was right and

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Speaker 1: he was right. Yeah, but they wanted him back last year.

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Speaker 3: That he doesn't block anyone.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if if they even if that

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Speaker 1: would have made the trade for Justin Fields. Yeah, it's possible, right, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know how the dominoes fall.

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Speaker 3: Only three you know that are legit dudes, you know,

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Speaker 3: not this hanger on or type guys. Yeah, maybe not.

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Speaker 1: But once Pickett said he wanted out, now they had

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Speaker 1: Rudolf was already gone at that and Rudolph was gone. Okay,

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Speaker 1: because that happened post free agency the picket trade. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: and that's the Fields trade. I'm trying to put the

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you're still under the depression. Not that this

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Speaker 1: I know it hasn't happened yet, right right right. People

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Speaker 3: I'm done negotiating with Party. Let's move him to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he loved mac Jones coming out of school. That's

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, if for the mac Jones, mac Jones

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Speaker 3: mean he has his warts, but he played pretty well

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Speaker 3: this year's Mac or Sam Darnold you know where it's possible,

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Speaker 1: Anyways, uh so the Steelers making it official with Millie

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Speaker 1: And Darius Slay. Who am I missing here? I said, Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: Metcalf and running Kenneth Gamewell, no game, weell too, okay,

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Speaker 3: smooth jazz Okay, good. I think those are all quality pickups.

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Speaker 3: We've broken them all down. I looked in more into

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Speaker 3: I mean, in this league, if you're only an outside

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Speaker 3: do you know what McVeigh and Shanahan do. They motioned

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, really do Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They haven't had that you know, potential there with you know,

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Speaker 1: that's why they went to Camp Sutton right last year.

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Speaker 3: And I think Eccles should or looks like he could

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Speaker 1: So you know, they're not the earth shattering moves I

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Speaker 3: So the track record of over thirty corners isn't great

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Speaker 1: And you just got Echols who can also do that.

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Speaker 1: We don't know how much you're paying your quarterback yet.

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Speaker 1: You might have an idea, but the difference between what

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Speaker 3: And they're definitely gonna draft the back, and I think

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Speaker 3: thing I kind of wish they had was a Hargrave

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Speaker 3: but the rookie class is good, Yeah, I mean it

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's crazy that Nolan or Grant is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you trade it down, you're probably a

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Speaker 1: but I like seven of them. Yeah, but we need

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Speaker 1: I like seven of them, but we need a cornerback yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if they'll draft a quarterback at all.

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Speaker 3: But if it were Dart or Shock wherever you have

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Speaker 3: Their owners basically said, you have to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But you know what's the Winston or asking for now?

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Speaker 3: But they restructured cars contract just so they could get Captainplying,

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Speaker 3: of course. But he's like an eighty five million dollar

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Speaker 1: And after June first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he costs a new team like nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He could be the guy who ends up in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Because it looks like Atlanta is willing at this point

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Speaker 3: He's not going to be a Falcon, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: But they could take him up to camp.

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Speaker 3: We're if they cut him, it's a Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're gonna if we're gonna get if we're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's kind of how it goes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just give me anything, swap future picks. They would

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Speaker 3: think that's good business. Yeah. Yeah, but if you could

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Speaker 3: say take half of it, maybe you know, it's not great.

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Speaker 1: No, no, it's not ideal. But again, this is this

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way. Yeah, and yeah, you're going

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there were good quarterbacks then, but there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because they didn't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you gotta have the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you gotta over you gotta turn every rock

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Speaker 1: Even than those games, those those I covered all those

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Speaker 1: They're the best guys. Yeah, obviously, you know right like

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Speaker 1: The people that say that that Mike Tomlin who's taking

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Speaker 1: They've been okay, they've been media been okay, they've been

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Speaker 1: We went over that last week, like if they.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know Mike Tomlin knows how to win

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Speaker 3: win team.

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Speaker 1: This is my points. Yeah, it's just not a fun

437
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Speaker 1: way to live.

438
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 3: It's brutal, true, and it's a hard way to be

439
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 3: a fan too.

440
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it.

441
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 3: I mean I think the fans are a little spoiled.

442
00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 3: They're a little testy right around now. But I feel

443
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 3: for him in those kind of games. I mean, when

444
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: when every game's down to getting this bounce or this

445
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: kick or whatever, it's tough. I mean, there's no question

446
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Speaker 3: in my.

447
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 1: Shoe I got to write a game story off of

448
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: these things that immediately as soon as the clock hits zero,

449
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: I gotta have a game story up on Steelers dot com.

450
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: Do you write a paragraph? Delete it? Write a paragraph,

451
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: delete it?

452
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: You know these games are going down, Oh did they

453
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: get this defensive stop. No, you know, the Cincinnati playoff game.

454
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 1: And in twenty sixteen, I had five different stories written.

455
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean I had two columns going yeah because again

456
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: at that you know, Marvin I was still at the

457
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Speaker 1: Observer reporter. Marvin Lewis is a Washington County guy. If

458
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Speaker 1: he won that playoff game, is his first playoff win.

459
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: I gotta right, well, look at it. It's so good

460
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: for Marvin the Steelers. Steelers win column, Steelers lose column

461
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: for Bengals win column.

462
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Speaker 3: But it happened to be a Bengel game with Marvin.

463
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Speaker 1: And those things all had to be in at eleven o'clock. Okay,

464
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: all hell broke loose at about ten forty five in

465
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: that game when Ben goes trotting off and then so.

466
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's getting fouled at eleven, no matter.

467
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: What, no matter, like I this is, this is deadline.

468
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: The deadline. Can't push deadline. Yeah, all right, what do

469
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: we got here? And Ben left the field. He's hurt.

470
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: Oh boy, they can't get a first down? Uh, Landry Jones,

471
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: So is the interception?

472
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: All right?

473
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: Steelers lost the yeah version the fumble, scratch that scratch

474
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: that Roethlisbern comes trotting back out of the you know,

475
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: out of the tunnel. Well Ben's going back in, doesn't

476
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: go back in. Then all of a sudden, he does.

477
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: They get the the Antonio Brown play, yeah, you know,

478
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: and they move the ball down. They kicked the field

479
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Speaker 1: going win.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's almost olock.

481
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Speaker 1: I almost had a heart attack. I can imagine it

482
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Speaker 1: was beating a thousand like and it that ended at

483
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Speaker 1: like ten fifty nine boom. I don't even know what

484
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Speaker 1: I wrote.

485
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: I wrote it.

486
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty thousand words on that game, of which we

487
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Speaker 1: use two thousand.

488
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Speaker 3: Pretty great.

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it goes like, oh, what is your stressful job. Yeah,

490
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: it's a stressful job.

491
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: It can be.

492
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Speaker 1: Deadlines are deadlines. It's costing the company money. If my

493
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Speaker 1: story isn't in at that minute.

494
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Speaker 3: People pick up paper they wouldn't read about They want

495
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Speaker 3: to read about the Yeah, they don't want to see

496
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: read tomorrow's paper about the game that happened three minutes ago.

497
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Speaker 1: Tuesday's paper about Sunday's playoffs, and worked that way.

498
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Speaker 3: I'm not suscribing anymore. Yeah.

499
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's the life of a sports writer. But yeah,

500
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Speaker 1: I mean he kind of have the quarterback.

501
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know what that path is. I mean,

502
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Speaker 3: I am intrigued with Rogers on the field. You know

503
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Speaker 3: what he could be.

504
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Speaker 1: I would agree with that.

505
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's definitely intriguing. And I think the

506
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Speaker 3: ceilings the highest of all those names we mentioned. If

507
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Speaker 3: if someone were to have lead you to playoff victories,

508
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: I think it would be Rogers of that group. But

509
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: you can't wait around forever for the guy either, can't

510
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 3: wait forever. Yeah, you have to.

511
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to fly to Malibu.

512
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 3: Where he's at.

513
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: That's where he's at. That's where the pictures rat fly

514
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: of Malibu. Well, he's walking on the beach, walk out

515
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: and draw a line in the sand to Aaron, there's

516
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,239
Speaker 1: your line in the sand. We got in there?

517
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Speaker 3: Walk over or not right? Yeah, here's a contract on

518
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: one side of it, and there's yeah, a flight back

519
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh on the other or what.

520
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 1: Right, here's a ticket if you want it, it's yours.

521
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: If not, Get right.

522
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Speaker 3: The tide's coming into a racist line and saying I'm

523
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Speaker 3: the big guys.

524
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Speaker 1: Son's getting low.

525
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta go, we gotta go.

526
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Speaker 1: Anyways, we gotta go, we gotta go. We're gonna take

527
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Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

528
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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt,

529
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Speaker 1: and now I'll be back with more right after this.

530
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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

531
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Speaker 2: your twenty four I'm home of the Black and Gold

532
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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

534
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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and uh, well, Justin Miller brought up

535
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: a good point here, our producer, but Aaron Rodgers was

536
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Speaker 1: seen with the air buds walking on the beach yesterday.

537
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Speaker 1: That is you're listening something. He was listening to the drive.

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Speaker 3: Ah, there you go, probably.

539
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Speaker 1: As he walked on the beach and decided whether he

540
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Speaker 1: Uh anyways, So man, I'm looking looking here at a

541
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Speaker 1: list of the still available defensive tackles that are available

542
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Speaker 1: right now. Now this could change given this draft to

543
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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 3: You mean in terms of people getting released and going

545
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Speaker 3: to the draft right right, I don't know who those

546
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: names would be.

547
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Speaker 1: I don't know who those ones are yet at this

548
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Speaker 1: point where somebody could become available via trade because we

549
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: didn't think this guy was going to be there.

550
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Speaker 3: But in the second round we didn't play on a day.

551
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, But right now you've got Raykwon Davis

552
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: of the Colts, Austin Johnson of the Bills, John Jenkins

553
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: are the Raiders, Jerry Tillery of the Vikings, Lynn Vaal,

554
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: Joseph from who was with Dallas last year, Laky Foe

555
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: two with who was with the Jets, Jonathan Hankins, Derek

556
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: nandi Uh he was with the Chiefs, Tavian Brian another Colt,

557
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Ledbetter was with Jacksonville, Maurice Hurst who was with Cleveland,

558
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Speaker 1: Benito Jones who was with the Dolphins. I mean, there's

559
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of names on here.

560
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: None of them are blowing my scartup, though there are

561
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Speaker 3: a lot of these guys are the old style nose

562
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: tackle that I'll play forty five years old, because all

563
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: you got to do is be big.

564
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: And eat up blocks.

565
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Speaker 3: Klais Campbell, he's listed as what they list the map,

566
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Speaker 3: but he would also be a big guy.

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wouldn't be opposed to that.

568
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: No, he can still play. Those other names you mentioned

569
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: to me don't really move the needle unless you want

570
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 3: to just take Lynnvell Joseph and play fifteen to eighteen

571
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: snaps a game as an anchor in the middle of

572
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 3: your defense. And you know he'll do that for as

573
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: long as he wants. Yeah, you know, there's a couple

574
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: of names like that on the list. It wouldn't be expensive.

575
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: Campbell changes games though. I mean, Campbell's interesting to me.

576
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: I would not play him a ton. That wouldn't prohibit

577
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 3: me from drafting Nolan or Harmon or whoever you like.

578
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: But just get him in the mix and you know,

579
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Speaker 3: be better on game day.

580
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, there's some defensive ends out there. Most

581
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: of them are too light to play skin in the

582
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Steeler scheme, I should say, but Campbell was one that definitely,

583
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, he.

584
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Speaker 3: Could be the Cam Hayward ish yeah guy, Yeah, you know,

585
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 3: outside of that, it's not great Charles and Menihu. He's

586
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: more of an edge, He's more of an edge, bigger edge.

587
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: But he's more of an ed, bigger edge. But yeah,

588
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm just looking here.

589
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm curious who could be had via trade or his

590
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 3: cut candidates, because I'm sure that list is better. Yeah, right,

591
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: you have to do some homework and really dig around.

592
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Again, Somebody, somebody drafts somebody they didn't expect to get

593
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: or they find you know, uh, we're not gonna need

594
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 1: this guy. Steelers have extra picks in next year's draft.

595
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: You could get the camp.

596
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: That could happen well off the draft. Yeah, yeah, and

597
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 3: it just.

598
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: It just happens organically. But I don't necessarily love the

599
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: what you know, what's out there right now on the

600
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: open market.

601
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 3: No, and I said it last segment. That's one thing

602
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: I wish they would have had one guy, you know,

603
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: something that in the burdened the hand in there that

604
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 3: that position as it stands.

605
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: But I do think that the with the release of

606
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Speaker 1: Larry Ogan Jobie, they're moving Keanu Benton the defensive.

607
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I think so too. And I think that makes

608
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 3: them better. And I think it's good for Bent and

609
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: it's good for everybody. I assume he'll be right next

610
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: to cam Is the Nickel package interior in the front

611
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: four was last year. Yeah, I know, but I mean

612
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: I think it'll be his job full time. And yeah,

613
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: you can still bump into nose and all those things.

614
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: But draft is great, but count on rookies. They don't

615
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: always you know, shine snap after snap either. I mean

616
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Speaker 3: a veteran that you can count on would have some appeal.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, they still do have some veteran depth

618
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, and you know it's not necessarily ideal,

619
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Speaker 1: but they're and they're going to add to it. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you look at that depth chart,

621
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Speaker 1: you got Logan Lee, you got Dean Lowry, Montrevius Adams. Yeah, yea, yeah,

622
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: so they you know, they and they typically have six

623
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Speaker 1: and Benton and Hayward.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna call Leal part of that group. He's

625
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: kind of like his own position be though. Yeah, yeah,

626
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: Like I wonder what he ways nowadays and what the

627
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: plan is.

628
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: But they told him to start eating some damn sandwiches

629
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Speaker 1: or something.

630
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Speaker 3: Like that, right, I don't love him as an edge

631
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: and he.

632
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Was two hundred and eighty two hundred and eighty five pounds.

633
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: It's not like he can't, right, right, do that job.

634
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not your three to four defensive end, right,

635
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: but he could be your rotational guy by Nikolin Dime.

636
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I assume his role is. But you

637
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: have Lowry who can be Yes, I do think they're

638
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: high on Logan Lee. Yeah. I didn't love how Adams

639
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: played post injury. Yeah, but I've been quite impressed with

640
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: him for the rest of his Steeler stint and maybe

641
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: came back too early. Maybe there's more to that story

642
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: than I know, but I thought he's a quality, depth

643
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: piece that you can live with. You know.

644
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Speaker 1: Well, let's so that one. He's a perfect example of

645
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Speaker 1: a guy who's highly drafted.

646
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: Third draft pick, superstar recruit.

647
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Speaker 1: Superstar recruit, and it took him a few years to

648
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: figure it out. They signed him off of New Orleans

649
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and got a lot of hour and cove

651
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: that right.

652
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you can find some guys like that

653
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: who can be valuable pieces for you. They don't have

654
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: to all be ten million dollars a year players. No, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's but I'd like to have the next

656
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Speaker 1: Cam in place.

657
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: Without question, you know, without question. And I know by

658
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: the way, I mean, the massive elephant in the room

659
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: is what if Cam gets hurt, right, I mean, then

660
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: you're in trouble, trouble, you know, and your stands today.

661
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: Then you are signing the next Montrevius Adams.

662
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: And hoping for the best and hoping for the prey.

663
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: And I mean then they play a lot of snaps

664
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Speaker 3: and you don't have Hayward out there doing what he does.

665
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: I don't love where they're at there right now. I

666
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: mean I really don't.

667
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: They can to add to it. That's what the draft

668
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: is for, right right.

669
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I wish there were more veteran type options, you know,

670
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: the hard grave type guys. But there might be a

671
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: name that pops up. This guy.

672
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Speaker 1: There will be, I will guarantee there'll be names that

673
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: pop up. Got this guy's we just can't afford to

674
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: carry that contract.

675
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Or if someone wants a new deal or

676
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 3: trade or you know, a salary dump or things like that.

677
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: You know, we drafted this guy in the sixth round

678
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: and he's been better than what we thought.

679
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 3: We want to keep him. You're talking about post draft? Yeah, oh,

680
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: that stuff will definitely. Yeah, we think in the next

681
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: couple of weeks.

682
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: We're looking at this or you take it. You take

683
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: these guys through OTAs and you go, Okay, we drafted

684
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: this guy in the sixth round. We've got five defensive

685
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: tackles or six defensive tackles. We're only keeping five and

686
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: we can turn one into a pick, or we can

687
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: turn this guy into a pick. He's expensive. We like

688
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: the young guy, we want to keep him to develop,

689
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: trade to you trade that guy away.

690
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: I mean the beauty of whether the Steelers sit is

691
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: they have a lot of picks a year from now

692
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: and they have a ton of cap space. Yeah, I mean,

693
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: so they can be the team that Yeah, maybe he

694
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: isn't worth ten million a year, maybe he's an eight

695
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: million dollar player, but from where we're at, we'll give

696
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: him the ten for the year.

697
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: Frankly, that could be. That could be an end to

698
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: training camp cut.

699
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 3: True, true, true. I mean, assuming you've drafted one or two.

700
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you're both assuming that. But it's

701
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: also I'm not living with the names you just had.

702
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: It's the defensive line, Like you're not asking these guys

703
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: to go out there. I mean, as Casey Hampton won

704
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: and said, I go left, I go right.

705
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: In plays adjusting the scheme and all that.

706
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: Oh I got two plays, I go left, I go right, yeah,

707
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: right right right right.

708
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: No, that's not a hard position to add and get

709
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: them ready, right, absolutely.

710
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: And so you know they're going to add something to that.

711
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: You know it's not going to be the big ticket item,

712
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: at least not in free agency.

713
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean, yeah, I wonder who's I'm I have to

714
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: start thinking about teams that might have added a free

715
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: agent who was there before that you could snag off them,

716
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: or is making a little more than they should or yeah,

717
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: I mean you can even get down to trade deadline

718
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: when the bad teams are just dumping the Christian Wilkins

719
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Speaker 3: of the world.

720
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Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean, you know that type

721
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: of thing, you know, I mean I'm looking at like

722
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: there's some teams right now, like say the forty nine ers,

723
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: who just seem to be letting everybody walk out the door.

724
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Speaker 3: Right. It's funny I do a show with a forty

725
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: nine Ers host and we're talking about man, our two

726
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: teams are just racking up uh comp picks left and

727
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: right and that he kind of says the same thing.

728
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: It's like everybody's leaving, but they're guys we kind of

729
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: knew we're leave, you know, Like none of them is like,

730
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: oh no, we went to keep that guy. Yeah, so

731
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: you get a lot of compics, but you know, Nausey

732
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: leaving or Orogan Jobi being cut, we're kind of things

733
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: you saw coming.

734
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: Rights, right, None of that surprises.

735
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 3: But so Mike Williams signed today apparently agreed to terms,

736
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: you know.

737
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Back with the with the Chargers. It's six million dollars.

738
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was more than I thought too.

739
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking here at the depth chart on

740
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: our lads. Okay, So here's what it looks like as

741
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: we sit here right now again two days into.

742
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: The agency, right, draft is forty days away or whatever.

743
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: Your defense will go with the offense first, So you

744
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: got George Pickens, DK Metcalf they just signed reportedly signed

745
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: Scottie Miller back. That doesn't move the needle.

746
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: I didn't even hear that yet, but you gout he's

747
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: a camp you.

748
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Know, right, You got Roman Wilson, you got Calvin Austin.

749
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna add something else to that. You get

750
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: five receivers under contract that still.

751
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: Calls goronic, Yeah, and you add something to them. Yeah,

752
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: that room's not that's.

753
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: Not done being built yet. Your offensive line Broderick Jones,

754
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: Isaac Say, Marlowzac Frasier, Mason McCormick, Troy Faltano. We knew

755
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: that that's all basically returning starters or in the case

756
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: of Filatano at first round pick from last year. Uh,

757
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: you still have Spencer Anderson, you brought back Ryan McCollum,

758
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: you got, you got. They're wrong on some of this.

759
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what where Cook fits in. They and

760
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: they still have Spencer Anderson. I would call her big still,

761
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: that would be a massive deal. No, right, right, right,

762
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: And I'd like to get a tackle.

763
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: A quarterback. Well, tight end, you've got Pat Fryarmouth, Darnell Washington,

764
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: and Connor Hayward, along with uh the guy they signed

765
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: from the Chargers who's not on here for some reason,

766
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: un Parham quarterback. Right now, you've got Mason Rudolph when

767
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: he actually signs his car.

768
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: He's not official yet.

769
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: Running Back is Jaylen Warren, Kenneth Gamewell, Cordero Patterson. Now

770
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't expect necessarily Cordole Patterson to be here a

771
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: month from now.

772
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Speaker 3: I think he's probably the only name on there that

773
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: I think is probably still.

774
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: But you don't do that until you get a replacement

775
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: in the draft. Probably Defensively, you've got Dean Lowry, Keanu Benton,

776
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: cam Hayward, Logan Lee Montrevious Adams on your defensive line.

777
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

778
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: At outside linebacker, you've got t J. Watt. You've got

779
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: Alex high Smith. You got Nick Krbig they listed out

780
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: there should be listed with the defensive lineman and Malie

781
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: Harrison can play inside or outside. Yeah, and then there's

782
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: like you're pretty set there.

783
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would say, do you think you even add

784
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: an edge guy? I mean, I'm sure Moon will be

785
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: in the mix again. Yeah, they could, but they don't

786
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: have to. It could be like your last round pick

787
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: if he has special teams capabilities or you know it.

788
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: Insidebacker, you got Queen and Wilson, Cole Holcom, Mark Robinson

789
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: and again Harry Carrison.

790
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're done there.

791
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: You're pretty set at linebacker. Yeah, I think you're done there. Cornerback, well,

792
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: now you have Darius Slay. It could be done here,

793
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: Joey Porter, Junior, Brandon eccles. You still have Beanie Bishop,

794
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: you still have Corey Trice. You got five NFL cornerbacks

795
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: likely to make the team. You could add another veteran, dude.

796
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: It wouldn't break my heart.

797
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: Right at a veteran minimum. It's not going to be

798
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: break the bank, and it's safety. You've got to Sean Elliott,

799
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: makea Fitzpatrick Miles, Killer Brew and Ryan Watts.

800
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still have high hopes for Watts. Yeah, I

801
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: mean there's probably going to be three or four plus

802
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: draft guys added, don't you think between now and opening camp,

803
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: three or four, three or four vets of some sort. Oh,

804
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: they're gonna maybe more in that plus draft picks, Yeah,

805
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: added to that mix. Yeah, between now and then maybe more. Yeah.

806
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

807
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 3: So there's definitely a quarterback, right, some of those positions

808
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: just need more people too.

809
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they're gonna they're gonna continue to add to this.

810
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: And and you know, it could be some of the guys,

811
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: some of their own free agents, could be somebody from outside.

812
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows. Yeah, I mean I didn't see

813
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: Brandon Echles coming. I didn't see Gainwell coming, you know,

814
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: two days ago. It was like, man, I would have

815
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: never saw those type of moves on the horizon, you know.

816
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: And so there'll be a couple of those. I bet

817
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: they're in the next twenty four to forty eight hours too. Yeah.

818
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So they're they're not done yet, They're not. It's

819
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: not over, No, it's not. Again, there's probably still five

820
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty NFL for these guys who played in

821
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: the league last year, who were gonna play again this year.

822
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: Who are still out there, who were gonna, you know,

823
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: be the next Scottie Miller and the next guy who

824
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, people, would you resign Scotty Miller? Well he's

825
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: an NFL player, Yeah, and people get hurt and you

826
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: might need him around. Yeah, if he's your backup slot. Okay, ye, yeah,

827
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: you know it is what it is. I don't want

828
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: him being No.

829
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: He could still he could make the team or eighteen. Yeah,

830
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: there's no question.

831
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: So let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

832
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

833
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back

834
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: with more right after this least.

835
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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

836
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

837
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

838
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

839
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt to are the point that

840
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: we were just talking about about guys getting cut loose

841
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: at this point, for example, David Andrews getting released by

842
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: the Patricy longtime center team captain, all that kind of stuff.

843
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: Is that a good career?

844
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: He can decide he's thirty two years old. He can

845
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: decide if he wants to continue playing or not. The

846
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: Vikings cutting center Garrett Bradberry, Yeah.

847
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: Former first round pick. Yeah, they signed Kelly And that's

848
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 3: a perfect example. Like Bradbury is a certain type of center.

849
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: I mean, he is an extreme mover, you know, like

850
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 3: he tested great at the combine. He went in the

851
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: first round, but he doesn't handle Casey Hampton as well,

852
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But you see him out

853
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: on a screen.

854
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: It's like, I want that he can start for somebody

855
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: in this league.

856
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: And I bet there's some team teams and schemes that say, oh,

857
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: I'll take that mobile center that can pull and get

858
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: out and do things like that, you know, so he'll

859
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: get employed quick, I bet.

860
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: And the Houston Texans are just traded for a guard.

861
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: Ed Ingram with the vote, he was like another starter

862
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: for the Vikings that hey, we're going to get a

863
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: draft like.

864
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: Just they rework their entire intire twenty twenty.

865
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Six sixth round draft pick. Like these are the kind

866
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: of deals that are available to be made now if.

867
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: You and Ingram will probably I mean, just thinking off

868
00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: the top of my head, they got rid of Mace

869
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: and they got rid of Green the first round pick.

870
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Speaker 3: Ingram's probably a starter for the Texans. Now, so you

871
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Speaker 3: picked up a starting guard for a six round pick,

872
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Vikings went out and signed two defensive tackles,

874
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Juwan Hargrave and Jonathan Allen. Well, they've got other guys

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Speaker 1: who were.

876
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Speaker 3: The dudes that were there too.

877
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Speaker 1: Dudes that were there, like right there made a lot

878
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: of roster moves. Yeah, so you know, you start lit,

879
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: stuff keeps happening, ateah, point right right, there's there's going

880
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: to be a continued turn of the rosters. And just

881
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: because a guy didn't work in this system or that

882
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: system doesn't mean that he can't work in your system.

883
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: Right right. And I know this isn't steel irrelevant, but

884
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: Trey Henderson could get traded any minute. I mean, like,

885
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 3: I mean, there's still a couple of big name dudes

886
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: that could be floating around too.

887
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you just don't know what's going to happen

888
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: until it happens sometimes. I mean, we had talked about

889
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers potentially trading for DK Metcalf. Yeah, yeah, I

890
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: don't know that it was you know on anybody's Wow,

891
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers. You know, yeah, kind of you know when

892
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: it when it did happen. It is like the Steelers

893
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: traded for DK Metcalf, you.

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00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: Know, along the receiver lines. Would you have any interest

895
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: in Amari Cooper, cup Digs former pro bowler type guys.

896
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: Not unless I'm training George Pickens.

897
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cup is the one, just because I think Cup

898
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 3: slot only at this stage. The other guys would be

899
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: you know, more in Pickens, you know, Wheelhouse and maybe

900
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: Disruptive too, I don't. I mean, they're some of the

901
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: biggest names out there.

902
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: You know, they're going to play for somebody.

903
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: They're to play for somebody. Yeah, but they have their warts,

904
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 3: and they have age, and I'm sure they want, you know,

905
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: more money than you know. Hopkins got five million.

906
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: Williams got six.

907
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 3: That shocked me too. I thought he'd get less than that. Yeah,

908
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 3: I thought he was a three or four type guy.

909
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: But but they needed a reason.

910
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: Teams pay for wide receivers more than they're willing to

911
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: pay for sale running back. You know, I get it.

912
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: The running back has more wear and tear on them,

913
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 1: but they're equally valuable.

914
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 3: It's a one year deal. What's the difference, right You know,

915
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 3: I think Williams is on a one year, six million

916
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: dollars deal. Yeah, I don't know if other teams would

917
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 3: have done that. Herbert probably likes them. You know, they're

918
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: familiar to the organization. They've been shut out a little bit.

919
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: On receivers.

920
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: They really did get Like they've done some other stuff

921
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: that's been good, but they got shut they shut out.

922
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: They got the Steelers treatment this year with their wide

923
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: receiver group.

924
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: Big time, and like didn't at a tight end. I mean, yeah,

925
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: pass catchers, they didn't have anything.

926
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean you start to look at what

927
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: teams are possibly going to do in the draft. You go, well,

928
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: they got to add they got to add a wide receiver.

929
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: They have to. They have to. There's a couple of

930
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: teams that really haven't either done much or didn't get

931
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: things they should need, you know, like Miami come Patriots, right,

932
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 3: like they got shut out. Dallas has done nothing for

933
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: two free agency terms in a row. They've traded for

934
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: three former first round picks, none of whom are good,

935
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 3: you know, like Kenneth Murray and dudes like that. Javonte Williams,

936
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: he looks pretty shot. You know. That's kind of moves

937
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: they're making. You know, I was asked today about the Dolphins,

938
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: Like I looked at every all the additions. I'm like,

939
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: they picked up Westbrook a Keene. That's probably my favorite

940
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: move besides James Daniels, who's coming off a big injury.

941
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: Like that's all they've done. And they lose Holland and

942
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 3: you know, they lose a lot of stuff. Yeah, so

943
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 3: these teams are pretty stagnant.

944
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: Right, we get to the end of next week, we'll

945
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: take a look at kind of the smoke clearing before

946
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: the reset, because you'll see things will slow down towards

947
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Speaker 1: the end of next week. We'll go down to the

948
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: owners meetings. We'll see some signings happened down there.

949
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: Things will start popping again a little bit down there too.

950
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 3: You know, teams will start talking rumors and right right

951
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: and that kind of stuff soon. Huh yeah, nice, we'll

952
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: be there. That's always a good time.

953
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, West Palm Beach is shure.

954
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Speaker 3: It's not this upcoming week, but the week after the

955
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Speaker 3: week after doing shows from.

956
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Speaker 1: A Sunday show that week and nice Sunday, Monday, Tuesday

957
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: down there, then we're back here Wednesday, gotcha. We don't

958
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: miss this six shows, six shows.

959
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: So that'll be fun on a pretty nice spot.

960
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I don't know where we'll be broadcasting at there,

961
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: bet some my department. I think the last time we

962
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: were down at West Palm Beach, if I remember correctly,

963
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: their radio row was outside. Really they have so the

964
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Speaker 1: Breakers is a fantastic hotel.

965
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like a legendary one.

966
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Speaker 1: But yeah, they don't necessarily allow the media into the hotel.

967
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Speaker 1: You guys could you could go into the hotel I missed,

968
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Speaker 1: but you can go into the hotel. We're not setting

969
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: up shop there, but yeah, the media room and everything

970
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: aren't in the actual hotel. It was on the front lawn. Yeah,

971
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Speaker 1: you're in the pond and they had big tents set

972
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Speaker 1: up with sides on them and stuff and air conditioning.

973
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Speaker 1: But you're on the front lawn and outside of the

974
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Speaker 1: tents what they were like five or six radio shows

975
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: set up. Yeah. I assume that's where we'll be at it.

976
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Speaker 1: Hopefully it doesn't.

977
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Speaker 3: Rain because Jerry Jones and mister Kraft and all those

978
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Speaker 3: guys are on the inside. Yeah yeah, yeah, got it.

979
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Speaker 1: But it's a beautiful site.

980
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Speaker 3: But it's a nice pond.

981
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly.

982
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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

983
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Speaker 1: Matt and I'll be back with our number two of

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Speaker 1: the Drive right after this