WEBVTT - Midsummer Madness: Stevie Y is Out, Ducks Match Flyers Offer Sheet and Summer Wedding Memories. 0:00:04.552 --> 0:00:20.992 NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts. 0:00:21.712 --> 0:00:25.031 That's right, your favorite podcast is back, NHL Unscripted, What's 0:00:25.072 --> 0:00:28.032 it All About? Alphie Daniel alpertson Trade and the Ottawa 0:00:28.112 --> 0:00:30.592 Senators for the Tronoo Police, plus Fortalk of the best 0:00:30.592 --> 0:00:33.992 remaining freezings out there, including Big Daddy Kane, Patrick Kane 0:00:33.992 --> 0:00:35.711 still on the Market and Vladimir Turasinka. 0:00:35.752 --> 0:00:39.632 Plus is Russia back? 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Can chase you around figuring out what's 0:01:07.272 --> 0:01:09.312 the right schedule with you on the East coast, me 0:01:09.351 --> 0:01:10.432 on the west coast. 0:01:10.112 --> 0:01:13.592 And Nace, I mean if people only knew. You know, 0:01:13.911 --> 0:01:15.992 it's not it's list. It's not the end of the world. 0:01:16.032 --> 0:01:18.152 But when you're trying to four people are trying to 0:01:18.152 --> 0:01:22.991 connect to schedule, is like, it's the hardest thing. I'd 0:01:23.072 --> 0:01:25.512 rather try to disarm a nuclear bomb than I have 0:01:25.592 --> 0:01:28.472 four people try to figure out their schedule and figure 0:01:28.472 --> 0:01:29.911 out an hour that works with a guest. 0:01:29.991 --> 0:01:31.032 Once you throw a guest on. 0:01:30.952 --> 0:01:31.831 What's you tell the guests in? 0:01:31.911 --> 0:01:34.911 Yeah, because people to be in the maestro tell us 0:01:35.711 --> 0:01:38.151 it's so easy just recording your basement. It's not the recording. 0:01:38.232 --> 0:01:44.072 The recording is fine, it's the logistics that causes the chality. Regardless, 0:01:44.152 --> 0:01:45.352 we continue, tell how you been. 0:01:48.232 --> 0:01:50.431 I'm well, I'm in New York City this week in 0:01:50.472 --> 0:01:53.392 a in a midtown Manhattan hotel where the air conditioning 0:01:53.392 --> 0:01:53.912 doesn't work. 0:01:53.952 --> 0:01:58.672 So that's yeah, I take New York in the summer. 0:01:58.712 --> 0:02:00.792 I feel like the best revenge may be the best 0:02:00.832 --> 0:02:03.232 revenge may be calling out the hotel by name on 0:02:03.272 --> 0:02:03.912 this podcast. 0:02:03.952 --> 0:02:04.511 I'm not trying to. 0:02:04.712 --> 0:02:07.632 I mean, if you think about taking it relatively recent innovations. 0:02:07.672 --> 0:02:09.432 I feel like air conditions around for thirty years. But 0:02:09.592 --> 0:02:11.352 if somebody said you, what are the things you cannot 0:02:11.392 --> 0:02:15.712 live about an iPhone, a DVR, air conditioning like air 0:02:15.752 --> 0:02:17.632 conditions number one. Like if you said no phone for 0:02:17.712 --> 0:02:19.591 I'm like I it'd be hard, There's no question about it. 0:02:19.591 --> 0:02:21.871 I'm like, I'll think, no, honey, AC. 0:02:24.752 --> 0:02:26.752 Seen all the stuff from the have you seen all 0:02:26.752 --> 0:02:29.432 the stuff in the World Cup. We're like the European 0:02:29.431 --> 0:02:31.912 people are the European fans are coming over like wait, 0:02:32.352 --> 0:02:34.151 you guys have AC in every building. 0:02:36.272 --> 0:02:37.031 They don't want to leave. 0:02:37.591 --> 0:02:38.112 It's true. 0:02:38.311 --> 0:02:40.392 Much of England, it's a great point by Gid. Much 0:02:40.392 --> 0:02:42.311 of England does not have air conditionings. It was never 0:02:42.311 --> 0:02:44.191 that hot, and now the last ten years, like holy shit, 0:02:44.311 --> 0:02:46.952 this is crazy. People are dying in the streets thing 0:02:46.992 --> 0:02:47.431 and they hate it. 0:02:47.472 --> 0:02:49.352 They love it over here. Air conditionings massive. 0:02:49.712 --> 0:02:51.992 You miss it when it's when it's gone, that's for damn. 0:02:52.031 --> 0:02:52.272 Sure. 0:02:52.352 --> 0:02:55.512 Do you have a fan going there's like a little 0:02:55.552 --> 0:02:58.471 air coming in. But we each have our little individual 0:02:58.591 --> 0:03:01.072 fans that we've been holding to our heads when we're out. 0:03:01.272 --> 0:03:04.591 It's muggy man, it is uh. It is uh. 0:03:04.871 --> 0:03:09.512 Sloppy nuts underwear weather and sloppy nuts. 0:03:10.072 --> 0:03:10.832 The whole city hot. 0:03:11.672 --> 0:03:13.832 They was just there. He knows exactly what I'm talking about. 0:03:13.992 --> 0:03:14.911 That's a great point. I told me. 0:03:14.992 --> 0:03:17.112 I New York is an all time great city in 0:03:17.192 --> 0:03:20.192 the spring and in the fall, and the winter is okay, 0:03:20.192 --> 0:03:22.072 spring and falls, you guys know, is six weeks apiece. 0:03:22.192 --> 0:03:24.912 But I think New York summer highly overrated. Like it 0:03:24.992 --> 0:03:26.591 is just disgusting hot. 0:03:27.512 --> 0:03:29.032 It smells, the smells. 0:03:29.871 --> 0:03:32.071 I left there this morning and just just like it's 0:03:32.112 --> 0:03:35.792 just it's just hot everything hot smell everything hot hot smells, 0:03:35.872 --> 0:03:38.712 you know. And like I said, it smells like weed 0:03:38.752 --> 0:03:41.832 throughout the whole city because it's so hot, so correct. 0:03:42.112 --> 0:03:43.712 The biggest thing I noticed is theyt a weed. I'm like, 0:03:44.032 --> 0:03:45.552 this isn't I mean? In answerdam all of a sudden, 0:03:45.552 --> 0:03:46.032 it's nuts. 0:03:46.552 --> 0:03:47.792 All right, to the hockey we go. 0:03:47.952 --> 0:03:51.232 Stevie Baye our favorite ongoing soap opera, The Summer Bains 0:03:51.232 --> 0:03:53.672 a Dylan arkinsag and detroits all tell it just took 0:03:53.672 --> 0:03:56.312 a new turn of the announcement Wednesday franchise lessons Steve 0:03:56.352 --> 0:03:59.192 Eiseman out as general manager, but stay with the team 0:03:59.192 --> 0:04:01.312 as senior advisor, which means the Red Wings need a 0:04:01.352 --> 0:04:03.952 new GM just two months before training camp, and their 0:04:03.992 --> 0:04:06.912 Captain's Dell wants out, Dylan Larker reportedly expanded the list 0:04:06.912 --> 0:04:09.072 of teams he would go to by adding Dallas. Well, 0:04:09.112 --> 0:04:10.952 the team's most up against the salary capital, a list 0:04:10.992 --> 0:04:14.752 that already included Vegas, Minnesota, and Florida. So what happens 0:04:14.792 --> 0:04:17.592 now and could a Larka moved to Dallas include Jason Robertson, 0:04:17.752 --> 0:04:20.472 who has opted for arbitration with Dallas. Let's do see why. 0:04:20.512 --> 0:04:22.272 First JD I thought he's out of my like, wow, 0:04:22.312 --> 0:04:25.552 he's out. They find me doing senior advisor. Eh, we've 0:04:25.552 --> 0:04:26.672 still got his tentacles in there. 0:04:26.712 --> 0:04:29.152 Is this just him being neutered a little bit? Or 0:04:29.192 --> 0:04:31.232 is he just taking a different advisory position? What does 0:04:31.272 --> 0:04:31.791 this mean to you? 0:04:33.351 --> 0:04:35.751 The timing couldn't be worse. I don't know what the 0:04:35.791 --> 0:04:39.912 hell Detroit's doing right now. Why at this moment, after 0:04:39.992 --> 0:04:43.472 free agency, after the end of the season, now you're 0:04:43.512 --> 0:04:47.752 demoting him and it's it's clearly there has to be 0:04:47.832 --> 0:04:53.352 some form and some enormous disconnect with Dylan Larkin, his camp, 0:04:53.952 --> 0:04:57.552 the ownership management, how it's been handled. Listen, I think 0:04:57.592 --> 0:05:00.632 everybody is at fault within that organization. I don't think 0:05:00.671 --> 0:05:02.832 it's just Stevie. Why at this point, because listen, I 0:05:02.872 --> 0:05:05.632 was talking. You know, is del Larkin a top twenty 0:05:05.791 --> 0:05:08.472 player in the NHL, in the top twenty center. But 0:05:09.032 --> 0:05:13.912 the way he's handled this as the captain and has 0:05:14.032 --> 0:05:16.592 kind of layered a cloud over this team a little bit, 0:05:16.592 --> 0:05:20.072 and Stevie Whye could not have handled it worse. But 0:05:20.152 --> 0:05:22.472 again we have to remember that like Detroit, the last 0:05:22.512 --> 0:05:25.672 three years were firmly in a playoff position, and it's 0:05:25.712 --> 0:05:28.512 on the players. It's just as the players are put 0:05:28.552 --> 0:05:29.791 on the ice, you got to find a way to 0:05:29.791 --> 0:05:32.712 get in. So I don't think it's all him. But again, 0:05:32.912 --> 0:05:36.952 why wait to this moment for Illich and that ownership 0:05:36.992 --> 0:05:40.392 group to move him down a wrung and you know 0:05:40.791 --> 0:05:43.272 where they go from here? I don't know. I'd assume 0:05:43.312 --> 0:05:45.912 it's going to be external, because they would have announced 0:05:45.952 --> 0:05:47.952 something if it was internal, like a Shan Horkoff has 0:05:47.952 --> 0:05:48.872 been there for a long time. 0:05:48.912 --> 0:05:50.952 But yeah, I don't like. 0:05:50.912 --> 0:05:53.192 Anything that's going on in Detroit, and I feel bad 0:05:53.231 --> 0:05:56.791 for that fan base there and New Rink City has 0:05:56.872 --> 0:06:00.512 been revamped by the Illich family and the downtown's fantastic 0:06:00.592 --> 0:06:01.791 tits and ass everywhere. 0:06:02.032 --> 0:06:05.351 Yeah, and the team sucks, So Nate, why do this 0:06:05.392 --> 0:06:07.192 to Eiserman, Like, what is the point If you're gonna 0:06:07.192 --> 0:06:08.312 get rid of him, get rid of him, and if 0:06:08.312 --> 0:06:10.072 you want himbolden him forever, then do that as well. 0:06:10.112 --> 0:06:11.912 I know the elextrim is very close to Isisman, So 0:06:11.952 --> 0:06:13.431 I get it. Maybe it's too hard to fire guy, 0:06:13.552 --> 0:06:15.072 but then why make the move Anyways? 0:06:15.552 --> 0:06:18.351 Well, I look and what it's what Jad said, it's 0:06:18.351 --> 0:06:21.551 the Larkin situation. I think that's what's catapulted this whole 0:06:22.351 --> 0:06:26.392 situation really with Stevie. Why And I wonder and at 0:06:26.392 --> 0:06:28.712 the first, at first, I had the utmost respect for Stevy. 0:06:28.912 --> 0:06:31.472 I played under him in Tampa. He built that organization 0:06:31.552 --> 0:06:33.232 in a way and all that roster, and he's done 0:06:33.272 --> 0:06:36.552 a great job and he's tried to do a good 0:06:36.632 --> 0:06:38.072 job here just hasn't worked. 0:06:38.152 --> 0:06:39.152 And he's talked about it. 0:06:39.192 --> 0:06:41.432 You know, it's been on him, it's been on the players, 0:06:42.152 --> 0:06:45.111 and you know, now they're in a situation where I 0:06:45.231 --> 0:06:48.272 wonder if you know it was you know, him stepping 0:06:48.312 --> 0:06:50.432 down or it was more of like, Okay, this is 0:06:50.472 --> 0:06:52.392 a situation where Larkin, we need to go a different 0:06:52.392 --> 0:06:56.871 way cause moving forward, whoever GM comes in, I wonder 0:06:56.912 --> 0:06:59.832 if it's maybe we're not gonna trade you. Maybe we're 0:06:59.832 --> 0:07:01.712 gonna make this work with you. Maybe I'm gonna sit 0:07:01.752 --> 0:07:03.992 down with Dylan and be like, hey, we need you here. 0:07:04.032 --> 0:07:05.872 You're the apt to this team. We need you part 0:07:05.912 --> 0:07:08.431 of this moving forward. And it's crazy to see where 0:07:08.432 --> 0:07:10.432 they're at now because you look at you look back 0:07:10.472 --> 0:07:13.312 at the beginning of March and where they were at, 0:07:13.432 --> 0:07:15.072 and now you look at it and where they're at 0:07:15.112 --> 0:07:17.712 in the summertime and maybe possibly without doing Larkin and 0:07:17.752 --> 0:07:20.592 know Stevie why, it's it's a shit show there. 0:07:21.712 --> 0:07:23.552 Tell how do you see it being resolved? 0:07:24.672 --> 0:07:25.752 Well, that's the issue. 0:07:25.752 --> 0:07:27.712 I think the longer it went, the less likely it 0:07:27.792 --> 0:07:29.912 was to be resolved. Like how many teams have pretty 0:07:29.952 --> 0:07:33.272 much set up their roster at this point, Like Florida 0:07:33.432 --> 0:07:35.432 was one of the teams that Dylan Larkin put on 0:07:35.472 --> 0:07:36.712 his first on his list. 0:07:36.592 --> 0:07:39.552 Like they're done, Florida's done making deals right. 0:07:39.592 --> 0:07:42.632 I don't see how they could even have the cap 0:07:42.672 --> 0:07:45.832 flexibility to do anything. And as far as you know, 0:07:45.952 --> 0:07:49.712 kicking Stevie why upstairs? You know, people have to remember 0:07:49.752 --> 0:07:52.592 when the Illich family bought the Red Wings in the 0:07:52.632 --> 0:07:55.912 eighties and turned the organization in town completely around and 0:07:55.912 --> 0:07:58.152 turned the whole city around. One of the first moves 0:07:58.192 --> 0:08:00.792 they made when they bought that team was drafting Steve 0:08:00.832 --> 0:08:03.312 Eiserman like eighty four, Stevie Why and the Illaches and 0:08:03.392 --> 0:08:04.912 Chris Ilich is still in the show. 0:08:04.952 --> 0:08:05.952 They're like family there. 0:08:06.432 --> 0:08:10.392 They are handcuffed for better or worse, you know, in perpetuity, 0:08:10.432 --> 0:08:12.392 so they can't really fire him. They'll give him a 0:08:12.472 --> 0:08:15.472 cushy advisory role. But you know, I think they feel 0:08:15.472 --> 0:08:17.512 he probably missed you know, this is my own take. 0:08:17.552 --> 0:08:20.192 They feel he misplayed this and now it's probably too 0:08:20.232 --> 0:08:22.992 late to do anything before the season starts and there's 0:08:23.072 --> 0:08:26.672 no big blockbuster coming between now and mid September. 0:08:27.632 --> 0:08:30.752 Could Dallas happen? JD? Could Dallas Robertson happen? Is there anyway? 0:08:31.512 --> 0:08:32.112 I think so? 0:08:32.312 --> 0:08:36.192 But I what I've heard is that, you know, Stevie 0:08:36.272 --> 0:08:38.832 Why is waiting and he's not going to trade Lark 0:08:38.872 --> 0:08:41.592 and unless it's like the best possible deal ever. 0:08:42.552 --> 0:08:44.072 So it's kind of funny. 0:08:43.792 --> 0:08:46.352 That he's you know, we talked about it and I've 0:08:46.432 --> 0:08:48.352 kind of been kicking around. I'm like, at what point 0:08:48.392 --> 0:08:51.352 are the gm IS going to push back on these 0:08:51.552 --> 0:08:54.272 star players? Saying that, hey, you know you sign a 0:08:54.272 --> 0:08:58.632 no movement clause because one you earn it, but two 0:08:58.792 --> 0:09:01.592 you protect yourself because you're telling an ownership group and 0:09:01.632 --> 0:09:03.832 you're telling a team and a franchise. I want to 0:09:03.832 --> 0:09:07.112 be here for the foreseeable future. Now things can happen, 0:09:07.112 --> 0:09:10.752 and you know, relationships can sour, but you signed that 0:09:10.832 --> 0:09:14.752 no move clause knowing that you're gonna be there and 0:09:14.792 --> 0:09:16.792 you want to be there. So now that these players 0:09:16.832 --> 0:09:20.152 have started using this and weaponizing it, I think gms 0:09:20.192 --> 0:09:22.312 are now going to be like, no, no, no, fuck that shit, 0:09:22.592 --> 0:09:24.592 like you're not you're not allowed to get a no 0:09:24.712 --> 0:09:26.552 move clause and then tell me when you want out. 0:09:26.632 --> 0:09:30.112 It's used as protection for the player, not as a weapon. 0:09:30.232 --> 0:09:32.992 So you know, I think Stevie why telling them like 0:09:33.032 --> 0:09:35.472 we're gon, we're gonna strip you, and you're just playing 0:09:35.552 --> 0:09:37.072 until we get a deal. And if we don't find 0:09:37.072 --> 0:09:39.912 a deal, you better play your ass off because otherwise 0:09:39.992 --> 0:09:42.912 the worse you play, the lesser is going to be 0:09:42.952 --> 0:09:44.352 a chance for us to get a great deal. 0:09:44.432 --> 0:09:46.632 So it's kind of like, all right, let's see what 0:09:46.672 --> 0:09:49.232 you can do. So I like that Stevie White called 0:09:49.272 --> 0:09:49.912 his bluff. 0:09:50.232 --> 0:09:50.912 Yeah, I'm laughing. 0:09:51.232 --> 0:09:54.152 I'm laughing because I'm like, I'm generally pro player, but 0:09:54.232 --> 0:09:55.872 I kind of like Stevie, why stick it to a 0:09:55.912 --> 0:09:56.952 little bit Nate, Like, I'm kind of. 0:09:56.912 --> 0:09:57.432 Like, you know what. 0:09:57.712 --> 0:10:00.192 But always I'm like, guys should get paid. You guys 0:10:00.232 --> 0:10:01.792 earned it, you work your ass, And I totally get 0:10:01.832 --> 0:10:03.192 you want to go, I tellgat, but I'm like, you 0:10:03.232 --> 0:10:05.712 know what, I got, like like the lark and like 0:10:05.792 --> 0:10:06.832 you can just settle down, dude. 0:10:06.872 --> 0:10:08.912 I totally agree that this is this is the part. 0:10:09.032 --> 0:10:11.232 This is the part that really is a stink part 0:10:11.272 --> 0:10:13.632 of it for me, where he only gives the three 0:10:13.672 --> 0:10:16.592 teams and then Dallas and that's it, where like you, 0:10:16.672 --> 0:10:19.232 like JD says, he weaponizes his no move where it's like, 0:10:19.232 --> 0:10:22.032 come on, man, you gotta give more teams. That it's unrealistic. 0:10:22.072 --> 0:10:23.952 All those teams are set. You know what their cap 0:10:23.992 --> 0:10:26.752 situation is. All these players know that. They know that. 0:10:27.072 --> 0:10:30.272 For so for him to be that narrow minded with 0:10:30.312 --> 0:10:32.432 the just three or four teams and not open it 0:10:32.512 --> 0:10:34.712 up and give Stevie Why a better chance to make 0:10:34.752 --> 0:10:37.352 the deal and make their team better when he's the captain, 0:10:37.992 --> 0:10:40.752 I mean, JD said he's handled it just as bad 0:10:40.792 --> 0:10:43.552 as Stevie. Why has no doubt about it. 0:10:43.592 --> 0:10:45.952 So, speaking of handling things, somemoimes, you're gonna just roll 0:10:45.992 --> 0:10:47.552 the dice man, go out there and just give it 0:10:47.592 --> 0:10:50.032 a shot. Danny Breer had Flowers fans in the edge 0:10:50.032 --> 0:10:53.792 of just full excitement. Oh my god, Leo Carlson five years, 0:10:53.992 --> 0:10:56.032 ninety million, twenty one years of age. 0:10:56.272 --> 0:10:57.712 This guy's gonna get eighteen million a year. 0:10:57.712 --> 0:10:59.192 And Nate, you know the Flyers need a one sea 0:10:59.232 --> 0:11:00.792 and the worst way this guy's gonna come in thirty 0:11:00.792 --> 0:11:03.152 goals a season. Oh my god, the Flowers got their superstar. 0:11:03.192 --> 0:11:05.632 They're gonna make Jason Deamaer's looks stupid. JD said the 0:11:05.632 --> 0:11:07.352 Flyers are gonna have a bad off season. They're not 0:11:07.352 --> 0:11:09.472 gonna make the Flats. Are gona get Leo Carlson. Eh, 0:11:09.672 --> 0:11:12.792 nothing happened. Man Ducks matched it. Patper BIKSI, No, we 0:11:12.832 --> 0:11:14.712 got you like we don't need your four first round 0:11:14.712 --> 0:11:17.072 picks and we're gonna stick with this. Utah also match 0:11:17.112 --> 0:11:19.112 in New Jersey's one year offer sheet for center Bart 0:11:19.112 --> 0:11:22.152 Hayton and so Billy tried to sabotage the Anaheim's cap. 0:11:22.272 --> 0:11:23.992 And you know, maybe there's some issues there. The Ducks 0:11:23.992 --> 0:11:26.432 lost four defenseman. They still designed Cutter goach 's an 0:11:26.512 --> 0:11:28.752 RFA coming up a forty one goal season. But the 0:11:28.752 --> 0:11:30.952 bottom line, and I hate to give JD credit night, 0:11:31.112 --> 0:11:33.712 but the Flyers trying to make a big move and didn't. 0:11:33.832 --> 0:11:36.792 And now the off season is you re signed Bladar, 0:11:37.192 --> 0:11:38.072 you resigned Forrester. 0:11:38.432 --> 0:11:40.312 You still don't have a one C. You didn't make 0:11:40.312 --> 0:11:43.512 any big moves like like, nice job. Danny didn't prove 0:11:43.552 --> 0:11:45.352 the roster though. That's a whiff to me. 0:11:45.832 --> 0:11:49.352 Oh w yeah it is, and I think it was. 0:11:50.472 --> 0:11:52.512 It was expected to be a whiff. I think if 0:11:52.512 --> 0:11:56.912 you're looking at Leo Carlson and he's better than the 0:11:56.952 --> 0:11:59.432 four first rounders or maybe five in the next four 0:11:59.512 --> 0:12:01.112 or five years. But that's how good this guy is. 0:12:01.152 --> 0:12:03.392 That's the reason why Danny Danny B made that made 0:12:03.392 --> 0:12:07.232 that offer sheet. And kudos to uh my old agent, 0:12:07.312 --> 0:12:09.672 my old agent for a long time, Matt Cater and 0:12:09.752 --> 0:12:12.792 Ryan Cater, his son, who did a damn pretty damn 0:12:12.792 --> 0:12:14.512 pretty good job. I'm sure you guys listen to thirty 0:12:14.512 --> 0:12:16.712 two thoughts with Elliott and in the UH in the 0:12:16.752 --> 0:12:20.432 interview and and and how it transpired and everything that happened. 0:12:20.472 --> 0:12:24.872 So you know, for Philly, they are they're they're they're 0:12:24.912 --> 0:12:27.352 back against the wall, I guess. But at the same time, 0:12:27.792 --> 0:12:30.272 you know, they're growing their building. You know, they're in 0:12:30.312 --> 0:12:32.912 a situation where they were playing with house money last year. 0:12:34.592 --> 0:12:34.752 You know. 0:12:34.872 --> 0:12:37.392 So it's it is, it's it is a big whiff. 0:12:37.472 --> 0:12:40.472 Like you said, but but but but Anaheim, I think 0:12:40.512 --> 0:12:43.752 this is you know, I think it was inevitable. If 0:12:43.752 --> 0:12:45.672 it wasn't Leo, it was gonna be somebody else. 0:12:46.112 --> 0:12:47.992 But I think no matter. 0:12:47.832 --> 0:12:49.992 What, fifteen insteads eighteen just too much and JD. 0:12:50.152 --> 0:12:52.432 Now for the flyers, hey better make sure there's no 0:12:52.552 --> 0:12:54.912 RF faced people want out there. Hey when Porter Martne 0:12:54.912 --> 0:12:57.312 wats twelve millionaire, better pay up, buddy, because something's gonna 0:12:57.312 --> 0:12:57.792 get you back. 0:12:57.832 --> 0:12:58.992 Now. 0:12:59.032 --> 0:13:00.832 I love it. 0:13:01.072 --> 0:13:03.432 I've been calling for this for like two years now, 0:13:03.552 --> 0:13:05.472 or I think GM it needs to be the wild 0:13:05.512 --> 0:13:06.992 West here, like no hard feelings. 0:13:07.272 --> 0:13:08.392 Business is business. 0:13:08.752 --> 0:13:08.952 Now. 0:13:09.032 --> 0:13:12.552 When I first saw that that deal, I was like, 0:13:14.072 --> 0:13:19.432 you know, I thought that if Anaheim accepted it, they 0:13:19.472 --> 0:13:21.552 were screwed. I still think they're screwed. I think they're 0:13:21.592 --> 0:13:25.072 fucking up shit Creek because again, we just heard on 0:13:25.112 --> 0:13:28.032 I just listened to Spitting Chicklets and keith Yandle said 0:13:28.072 --> 0:13:30.552 he heard Cutter Gotz will not take a cent under 0:13:30.552 --> 0:13:32.312 eighteen million, So they're done. 0:13:32.632 --> 0:13:34.592 Cutter's Cutter's gone. 0:13:34.952 --> 0:13:37.552 So Cutter's gone, or they're signing him, and they're going 0:13:37.632 --> 0:13:40.152 to have two players and a bunch of fourth liners. 0:13:40.352 --> 0:13:41.792 I might be able to go back and play there 0:13:41.832 --> 0:13:43.832 for minimum, but which. 0:13:43.672 --> 0:13:44.352 As you guys don't. 0:13:44.352 --> 0:13:46.312 And I know, just to get context again, Cutter GoChi 0:13:46.352 --> 0:13:47.712 did not want to play for the Flyers. They trade 0:13:47.752 --> 0:13:49.832 him the Ducks or Jamie Drysdale, Who's fine, he's the 0:13:49.872 --> 0:13:50.472 top four defense. 0:13:50.512 --> 0:13:52.952 He's not here. Yeah, they stick it to the Ducks 0:13:52.952 --> 0:13:53.312 a little bit. 0:13:53.432 --> 0:13:58.312 Yeah, but Philly now, and listen, tidy piece of work 0:13:58.352 --> 0:14:02.192 by Pat Verbeek because he had to sign it. I 0:14:02.192 --> 0:14:06.432 think he was stuck. To Nate's point, but him waiting 0:14:06.512 --> 0:14:09.752 till the final hour, Philly couldn't do anything else. They 0:14:09.792 --> 0:14:12.632 couldn't go and sign somebody because they're like, well, we 0:14:12.712 --> 0:14:13.992 need to know if our caps it's not. 0:14:14.112 --> 0:14:14.912 Philly's fucked. 0:14:15.312 --> 0:14:17.992 So now it's kind of like this, this like back 0:14:18.032 --> 0:14:21.512 and forth, and I think, listen, do I think it's yeah, 0:14:21.632 --> 0:14:24.952 take a swing. That's great by Philly, but like, come on, like, 0:14:25.032 --> 0:14:29.192 come on, like like at least sign him. And then after, 0:14:29.272 --> 0:14:32.472 like once we're like a week away, maybe start looking 0:14:32.472 --> 0:14:34.992 at other options and trying to you know, pay somebody. 0:14:34.992 --> 0:14:37.792 Maybe go after Dylan Larkin if that's what you're trying 0:14:37.832 --> 0:14:40.072 to do. But I think Philly's in trouble. I think 0:14:40.152 --> 0:14:44.832 Anaheim's in trouble. I was surprised even at the Utah signing, 0:14:44.872 --> 0:14:48.072 but I think Utah is really I think Utah matching 0:14:48.992 --> 0:14:52.832 Barret Hayden is understanding that they're going for it this year, 0:14:53.512 --> 0:14:55.672 and I think now they have really good center depth 0:14:55.672 --> 0:14:57.752 and they're like, hey, listen, no matter how good or 0:14:57.792 --> 0:15:00.432 bad Barret Hayton is. And I know Hates has kind 0:15:00.432 --> 0:15:02.832 of dealt with some injury stuff. They're like, we're gonna 0:15:02.872 --> 0:15:05.032 need center depth to go in along run, and you 0:15:05.032 --> 0:15:08.112 know it's hard to find those guys. So I like 0:15:08.232 --> 0:15:10.512 the resigning of Hates. They can't trade him for a 0:15:10.552 --> 0:15:13.032 year or anything. But yeah, going back to Philly, I 0:15:13.032 --> 0:15:16.272 think they're absolutely hooped and so is Anaheim. 0:15:16.352 --> 0:15:17.512 Two hoops teams. 0:15:18.672 --> 0:15:20.472 I want to go to Anaheim. I'm I'm gonna play 0:15:20.472 --> 0:15:21.152 Devil's advocate. 0:15:21.192 --> 0:15:26.072 If if, like say Cutter signs for eighteen as well, 0:15:26.872 --> 0:15:30.872 no signs for eighteen or seventeen eighteen, it's gonna be 0:15:31.232 --> 0:15:34.152 it's gonna be the same situation in Minnesota. They're going 0:15:34.232 --> 0:15:36.952 to be in the same situation. Yeah, with Faber, you 0:15:36.952 --> 0:15:40.512 mean and Hughes, with Hughes and CAPRICEO. So, I like, 0:15:41.392 --> 0:15:44.952 is Anaheim still gonna be okay? Where you know, the 0:15:44.992 --> 0:15:46.872 CAP's going up. All these guys are going to be 0:15:46.872 --> 0:15:49.392 making over fifteen in the next couple of years. 0:15:49.432 --> 0:15:50.672 It's gonna that's gonna be the norm. 0:15:51.272 --> 0:15:54.512 And I think Leo Carlson, I mean, he's this guy 0:15:54.632 --> 0:15:57.792 is he's a legit, bona fide superstar. 0:15:57.992 --> 0:16:00.072 He's going to be and I think in five or 0:16:00.112 --> 0:16:02.432 six years, I know right now it. 0:16:02.432 --> 0:16:05.312 Is he saying. He's saying, X, this deal is gonna 0:16:05.312 --> 0:16:05.712 look good. 0:16:05.832 --> 0:16:07.032 It's gonna look good. 0:16:07.992 --> 0:16:10.432 Tell how about like in the NFL first round picks, 0:16:10.432 --> 0:16:11.872 You're like, well, that's like a fifty percent chance the 0:16:11.912 --> 0:16:13.592 guy's gonna be like a star tight end, like that's 0:16:13.672 --> 0:16:15.792 the first one pick is very valuable in hockey. 0:16:15.792 --> 0:16:18.952 You go maybe definitely, yeah, definitely more of a crap 0:16:18.992 --> 0:16:20.992 shoot I think. I mean, Pat Verbeek's had a pretty 0:16:20.992 --> 0:16:23.232 good record drafting in Anaheim. And the only other thing 0:16:23.712 --> 0:16:25.632 I was gonna add to this is they got Beckett 0:16:25.632 --> 0:16:28.192 Seneca was going to be an RFA in twenty twenty eight. 0:16:28.472 --> 0:16:30.672 And if Pat Verbeek does the same thing with him 0:16:30.672 --> 0:16:33.512 and waits till the last minute to get that deal done, 0:16:33.712 --> 0:16:36.152 Ducks fans are gonna lose their mind. Like, Beckett Seneca 0:16:36.192 --> 0:16:39.472 better get his extension figured out next summer or the fall, 0:16:39.592 --> 0:16:41.512 next fall at the absolute latest. 0:16:41.792 --> 0:16:43.472 They can't let they can't let him. 0:16:43.752 --> 0:16:45.792 They can't go through the exact same stuff with Beckett 0:16:45.792 --> 0:16:47.952 Seneca that they're now going through with Carlson and coach. 0:16:48.632 --> 0:16:51.032 I love that they came out and they're like, we 0:16:51.112 --> 0:16:51.912 love our decoor. 0:16:53.312 --> 0:16:55.272 Yeah that was you. 0:16:55.272 --> 0:16:57.232 Lost four defense. Love what we got right. 0:16:57.232 --> 0:16:57.912 Now right side. 0:16:57.952 --> 0:17:03.512 I love at seven point two million a year is listen, 0:17:04.071 --> 0:17:06.712 we at it before. I'm a player spot. I love 0:17:06.752 --> 0:17:09.792 when guys get paid. But oh my god, did he 0:17:09.912 --> 0:17:13.832 absolutely rob Pat Verbeek. Seven point two million for five 0:17:13.912 --> 0:17:16.872 years is crazy for a guy that hasn't played over 0:17:16.912 --> 0:17:17.912 sixteen minutes a night. 0:17:18.352 --> 0:17:20.232