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Speaker 6: I'm well, I'm in New York City this week in
Speaker 6: a in a midtown Manhattan hotel where the air conditioning
Speaker 6: doesn't work.
Speaker 5: So that's yeah, I take New York in the summer.
Speaker 6: I feel like the best revenge may be the best
Speaker 6: revenge may be calling out the hotel by name on
Speaker 6: this podcast.
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about taking it relatively recent innovations.
Speaker 1: I feel like air conditions around for thirty years. But
Speaker 1: if somebody said you, what are the things you cannot
Speaker 1: live about an iPhone, a DVR, air conditioning like air
Speaker 1: conditions number one. Like if you said no phone for
Speaker 1: I'm like I it'd be hard, There's no question about it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll think, no, honey, AC.
Speaker 4: Seen all the stuff from the have you seen all
Speaker 4: the stuff in the World Cup. We're like the European
Speaker 4: people are the European fans are coming over like wait,
Speaker 4: you guys have AC in every building.
Speaker 5: They don't want to leave.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: Much of England, it's a great point by Gid. Much
Speaker 1: of England does not have air conditionings. It was never
Speaker 1: that hot, and now the last ten years, like holy shit,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. People are dying in the streets thing
Speaker 1: and they hate it.
Speaker 2: They love it over here. Air conditionings massive.
Speaker 5: You miss it when it's when it's gone, that's for damn.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 6: Do you have a fan going there's like a little
Speaker 6: air coming in. But we each have our little individual
Speaker 6: fans that we've been holding to our heads when we're out.
Speaker 5: It's muggy man, it is uh. It is uh.
Speaker 6: Sloppy nuts underwear weather and sloppy nuts.
Speaker 3: The whole city hot.
Speaker 5: They was just there. He knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: That's a great point. I told me.
Speaker 1: I New York is an all time great city in
Speaker 1: the spring and in the fall, and the winter is okay,
Speaker 1: spring and falls, you guys know, is six weeks apiece.
Speaker 1: But I think New York summer highly overrated. Like it
Speaker 1: is just disgusting hot.
Speaker 3: It smells, the smells.
Speaker 7: I left there this morning and just just like it's
Speaker 7: just it's just hot everything hot smell everything hot hot smells,
Speaker 7: you know. And like I said, it smells like weed
Speaker 7: throughout the whole city because it's so hot, so correct.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing I noticed is theyt a weed. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this isn't I mean? In answerdam all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's nuts.
Speaker 2: All right, to the hockey we go.
Speaker 1: Stevie Baye our favorite ongoing soap opera, The Summer Bains
Speaker 1: a Dylan arkinsag and detroits all tell it just took
Speaker 1: a new turn of the announcement Wednesday franchise lessons Steve
Speaker 1: Eiseman out as general manager, but stay with the team
Speaker 1: as senior advisor, which means the Red Wings need a
Speaker 1: new GM just two months before training camp, and their
Speaker 1: Captain's Dell wants out, Dylan Larker reportedly expanded the list
Speaker 1: of teams he would go to by adding Dallas. Well,
Speaker 1: the team's most up against the salary capital, a list
Speaker 1: that already included Vegas, Minnesota, and Florida. So what happens
Speaker 1: now and could a Larka moved to Dallas include Jason Robertson,
Speaker 1: who has opted for arbitration with Dallas. Let's do see why.
Speaker 1: First JD I thought he's out of my like, wow,
Speaker 1: he's out. They find me doing senior advisor. Eh, we've
Speaker 1: still got his tentacles in there.
Speaker 2: Is this just him being neutered a little bit? Or
Speaker 2: is he just taking a different advisory position? What does
Speaker 2: this mean to you?
Speaker 4: The timing couldn't be worse. I don't know what the
Speaker 4: hell Detroit's doing right now. Why at this moment, after
Speaker 4: free agency, after the end of the season, now you're
Speaker 4: demoting him and it's it's clearly there has to be
Speaker 4: some form and some enormous disconnect with Dylan Larkin, his camp,
Speaker 4: the ownership management, how it's been handled. Listen, I think
Speaker 4: everybody is at fault within that organization. I don't think
Speaker 4: it's just Stevie. Why at this point, because listen, I
Speaker 4: was talking. You know, is del Larkin a top twenty
Speaker 4: player in the NHL, in the top twenty center. But
Speaker 4: the way he's handled this as the captain and has
Speaker 4: kind of layered a cloud over this team a little bit,
Speaker 4: and Stevie Whye could not have handled it worse. But
Speaker 4: again we have to remember that like Detroit, the last
Speaker 4: three years were firmly in a playoff position, and it's
Speaker 4: on the players. It's just as the players are put
Speaker 4: on the ice, you got to find a way to
Speaker 4: get in. So I don't think it's all him. But again,
Speaker 4: why wait to this moment for Illich and that ownership
Speaker 4: group to move him down a wrung and you know
Speaker 4: where they go from here? I don't know. I'd assume
Speaker 4: it's going to be external, because they would have announced
Speaker 4: something if it was internal, like a Shan Horkoff has
Speaker 4: been there for a long time.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't like.
Speaker 4: Anything that's going on in Detroit, and I feel bad
Speaker 4: for that fan base there and New Rink City has
Speaker 4: been revamped by the Illich family and the downtown's fantastic
Speaker 4: tits and ass everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the team sucks, So Nate, why do this
Speaker 1: to Eiserman, Like, what is the point If you're gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of him, get rid of him, and if
Speaker 1: you want himbolden him forever, then do that as well.
Speaker 1: I know the elextrim is very close to Isisman, So
Speaker 1: I get it. Maybe it's too hard to fire guy,
Speaker 1: but then why make the move Anyways?
Speaker 7: Well, I look and what it's what Jad said, it's
Speaker 7: the Larkin situation. I think that's what's catapulted this whole
Speaker 7: situation really with Stevie. Why And I wonder and at
Speaker 7: the first, at first, I had the utmost respect for Stevy.
Speaker 7: I played under him in Tampa. He built that organization
Speaker 7: in a way and all that roster, and he's done
Speaker 7: a great job and he's tried to do a good
Speaker 7: job here just hasn't worked.
Speaker 3: And he's talked about it.
Speaker 7: You know, it's been on him, it's been on the players,
Speaker 7: and you know, now they're in a situation where I
Speaker 7: wonder if you know it was you know, him stepping
Speaker 7: down or it was more of like, Okay, this is
Speaker 7: a situation where Larkin, we need to go a different
Speaker 7: way cause moving forward, whoever GM comes in, I wonder
Speaker 7: if it's maybe we're not gonna trade you. Maybe we're
Speaker 7: gonna make this work with you. Maybe I'm gonna sit
Speaker 7: down with Dylan and be like, hey, we need you here.
Speaker 7: You're the apt to this team. We need you part
Speaker 7: of this moving forward. And it's crazy to see where
Speaker 7: they're at now because you look at you look back
Speaker 7: at the beginning of March and where they were at,
Speaker 7: and now you look at it and where they're at
Speaker 7: in the summertime and maybe possibly without doing Larkin and
Speaker 7: know Stevie why, it's it's a shit show there.
Speaker 2: Tell how do you see it being resolved?
Speaker 5: Well, that's the issue.
Speaker 6: I think the longer it went, the less likely it
Speaker 6: was to be resolved. Like how many teams have pretty
Speaker 6: much set up their roster at this point, Like Florida
Speaker 6: was one of the teams that Dylan Larkin put on
Speaker 6: his first on his list.
Speaker 5: Like they're done, Florida's done making deals right.
Speaker 6: I don't see how they could even have the cap
Speaker 6: flexibility to do anything. And as far as you know,
Speaker 6: kicking Stevie why upstairs? You know, people have to remember
Speaker 6: when the Illich family bought the Red Wings in the
Speaker 6: eighties and turned the organization in town completely around and
Speaker 6: turned the whole city around. One of the first moves
Speaker 6: they made when they bought that team was drafting Steve
Speaker 6: Eiserman like eighty four, Stevie Why and the Illaches and
Speaker 6: Chris Ilich is still in the show.
Speaker 5: They're like family there.
Speaker 6: They are handcuffed for better or worse, you know, in perpetuity,
Speaker 6: so they can't really fire him. They'll give him a
Speaker 6: cushy advisory role. But you know, I think they feel
Speaker 6: he probably missed you know, this is my own take.
Speaker 6: They feel he misplayed this and now it's probably too
Speaker 6: late to do anything before the season starts and there's
Speaker 6: no big blockbuster coming between now and mid September.
Speaker 2: Could Dallas happen? JD? Could Dallas Robertson happen? Is there anyway?
Speaker 5: I think so?
Speaker 4: But I what I've heard is that, you know, Stevie
Speaker 4: Why is waiting and he's not going to trade Lark
Speaker 4: and unless it's like the best possible deal ever.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of funny.
Speaker 4: That he's you know, we talked about it and I've
Speaker 4: kind of been kicking around. I'm like, at what point
Speaker 4: are the gm IS going to push back on these
Speaker 4: star players? Saying that, hey, you know you sign a
Speaker 4: no movement clause because one you earn it, but two
Speaker 4: you protect yourself because you're telling an ownership group and
Speaker 4: you're telling a team and a franchise. I want to
Speaker 4: be here for the foreseeable future. Now things can happen,
Speaker 4: and you know, relationships can sour, but you signed that
Speaker 4: no move clause knowing that you're gonna be there and
Speaker 4: you want to be there. So now that these players
Speaker 4: have started using this and weaponizing it, I think gms
Speaker 4: are now going to be like, no, no, no, fuck that shit,
Speaker 4: like you're not you're not allowed to get a no
Speaker 4: move clause and then tell me when you want out.
Speaker 4: It's used as protection for the player, not as a weapon.
Speaker 4: So you know, I think Stevie why telling them like
Speaker 4: we're gon, we're gonna strip you, and you're just playing
Speaker 4: until we get a deal. And if we don't find
Speaker 4: a deal, you better play your ass off because otherwise
Speaker 4: the worse you play, the lesser is going to be
Speaker 4: a chance for us to get a great deal.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of like, all right, let's see what
Speaker 5: you can do. So I like that Stevie White called
Speaker 5: his bluff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm laughing.
Speaker 1: I'm laughing because I'm like, I'm generally pro player, but
Speaker 1: I kind of like Stevie, why stick it to a
Speaker 1: little bit Nate, Like, I'm kind of.
Speaker 2: Like, you know what.
Speaker 1: But always I'm like, guys should get paid. You guys
Speaker 1: earned it, you work your ass, And I totally get
Speaker 1: you want to go, I tellgat, but I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I got, like like the lark and like
Speaker 1: you can just settle down, dude.
Speaker 3: I totally agree that this is this is the part.
Speaker 7: This is the part that really is a stink part
Speaker 7: of it for me, where he only gives the three
Speaker 7: teams and then Dallas and that's it, where like you,
Speaker 7: like JD says, he weaponizes his no move where it's like,
Speaker 7: come on, man, you gotta give more teams. That it's unrealistic.
Speaker 7: All those teams are set. You know what their cap
Speaker 7: situation is. All these players know that. They know that.
Speaker 7: For so for him to be that narrow minded with
Speaker 7: the just three or four teams and not open it
Speaker 7: up and give Stevie Why a better chance to make
Speaker 7: the deal and make their team better when he's the captain,
Speaker 7: I mean, JD said he's handled it just as bad
Speaker 7: as Stevie. Why has no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of handling things, somemoimes, you're gonna just roll
Speaker 1: the dice man, go out there and just give it
Speaker 1: a shot. Danny Breer had Flowers fans in the edge
Speaker 1: of just full excitement. Oh my god, Leo Carlson five years,
Speaker 1: ninety million, twenty one years of age.
Speaker 2: This guy's gonna get eighteen million a year.
Speaker 1: And Nate, you know the Flyers need a one sea
Speaker 1: and the worst way this guy's gonna come in thirty
Speaker 1: goals a season. Oh my god, the Flowers got their superstar.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make Jason Deamaer's looks stupid. JD said the
Speaker 1: Flyers are gonna have a bad off season. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna make the Flats. Are gona get Leo Carlson. Eh,
Speaker 1: nothing happened. Man Ducks matched it. Patper BIKSI, No, we
Speaker 1: got you like we don't need your four first round
Speaker 1: picks and we're gonna stick with this. Utah also match
Speaker 1: in New Jersey's one year offer sheet for center Bart
Speaker 1: Hayton and so Billy tried to sabotage the Anaheim's cap.
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe there's some issues there. The Ducks
Speaker 1: lost four defenseman. They still designed Cutter goach 's an
Speaker 1: RFA coming up a forty one goal season. But the
Speaker 1: bottom line, and I hate to give JD credit night,
Speaker 1: but the Flyers trying to make a big move and didn't.
Speaker 1: And now the off season is you re signed Bladar,
Speaker 1: you resigned Forrester.
Speaker 2: You still don't have a one C. You didn't make
Speaker 2: any big moves like like, nice job. Danny didn't prove
Speaker 2: the roster though. That's a whiff to me.
Speaker 3: Oh w yeah it is, and I think it was.
Speaker 7: It was expected to be a whiff. I think if
Speaker 7: you're looking at Leo Carlson and he's better than the
Speaker 7: four first rounders or maybe five in the next four
Speaker 7: or five years. But that's how good this guy is.
Speaker 7: That's the reason why Danny Danny B made that made
Speaker 7: that offer sheet. And kudos to uh my old agent,
Speaker 7: my old agent for a long time, Matt Cater and
Speaker 7: Ryan Cater, his son, who did a damn pretty damn
Speaker 7: pretty good job. I'm sure you guys listen to thirty
Speaker 7: two thoughts with Elliott and in the UH in the
Speaker 7: interview and and and how it transpired and everything that happened.
Speaker 7: So you know, for Philly, they are they're they're they're
Speaker 7: back against the wall, I guess. But at the same time,
Speaker 7: you know, they're growing their building. You know, they're in
Speaker 7: a situation where they were playing with house money last year.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: So it's it is, it's it is a big whiff.
Speaker 7: Like you said, but but but but Anaheim, I think
Speaker 7: this is you know, I think it was inevitable. If
Speaker 7: it wasn't Leo, it was gonna be somebody else.
Speaker 3: But I think no matter.
Speaker 2: What, fifteen insteads eighteen just too much and JD.
Speaker 1: Now for the flyers, hey better make sure there's no
Speaker 1: RF faced people want out there. Hey when Porter Martne
Speaker 1: wats twelve millionaire, better pay up, buddy, because something's gonna
Speaker 1: get you back.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 4: I've been calling for this for like two years now,
Speaker 4: or I think GM it needs to be the wild
Speaker 4: West here, like no hard feelings.
Speaker 5: Business is business.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: When I first saw that that deal, I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, I thought that if Anaheim accepted it, they
Speaker 4: were screwed. I still think they're screwed. I think they're
Speaker 4: fucking up shit Creek because again, we just heard on
Speaker 4: I just listened to Spitting Chicklets and keith Yandle said
Speaker 4: he heard Cutter Gotz will not take a cent under
Speaker 4: eighteen million, So they're done.
Speaker 5: Cutter's Cutter's gone.
Speaker 4: So Cutter's gone, or they're signing him, and they're going
Speaker 4: to have two players and a bunch of fourth liners.
Speaker 4: I might be able to go back and play there
Speaker 4: for minimum, but which.
Speaker 2: As you guys don't.
Speaker 1: And I know, just to get context again, Cutter GoChi
Speaker 1: did not want to play for the Flyers. They trade
Speaker 1: him the Ducks or Jamie Drysdale, Who's fine, he's the
Speaker 1: top four defense.
Speaker 2: He's not here. Yeah, they stick it to the Ducks
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Philly now, and listen, tidy piece of work
Speaker 4: by Pat Verbeek because he had to sign it. I
Speaker 4: think he was stuck. To Nate's point, but him waiting
Speaker 4: till the final hour, Philly couldn't do anything else. They
Speaker 4: couldn't go and sign somebody because they're like, well, we
Speaker 4: need to know if our caps it's not.
Speaker 3: Philly's fucked.
Speaker 4: So now it's kind of like this, this like back
Speaker 4: and forth, and I think, listen, do I think it's yeah,
Speaker 4: take a swing. That's great by Philly, but like, come on, like,
Speaker 4: come on, like like at least sign him. And then after,
Speaker 4: like once we're like a week away, maybe start looking
Speaker 4: at other options and trying to you know, pay somebody.
Speaker 4: Maybe go after Dylan Larkin if that's what you're trying
Speaker 4: to do. But I think Philly's in trouble. I think
Speaker 4: Anaheim's in trouble. I was surprised even at the Utah signing,
Speaker 4: but I think Utah is really I think Utah matching
Speaker 4: Barret Hayden is understanding that they're going for it this year,
Speaker 4: and I think now they have really good center depth
Speaker 4: and they're like, hey, listen, no matter how good or
Speaker 4: bad Barret Hayton is. And I know Hates has kind
Speaker 4: of dealt with some injury stuff. They're like, we're gonna
Speaker 4: need center depth to go in along run, and you
Speaker 4: know it's hard to find those guys. So I like
Speaker 4: the resigning of Hates. They can't trade him for a
Speaker 4: year or anything. But yeah, going back to Philly, I
Speaker 4: think they're absolutely hooped and so is Anaheim.
Speaker 5: Two hoops teams.
Speaker 3: I want to go to Anaheim. I'm I'm gonna play
Speaker 3: Devil's advocate.
Speaker 7: If if, like say Cutter signs for eighteen as well,
Speaker 7: no signs for eighteen or seventeen eighteen, it's gonna be
Speaker 7: it's gonna be the same situation in Minnesota. They're going
Speaker 7: to be in the same situation. Yeah, with Faber, you
Speaker 7: mean and Hughes, with Hughes and CAPRICEO. So, I like,
Speaker 7: is Anaheim still gonna be okay? Where you know, the
Speaker 7: CAP's going up. All these guys are going to be
Speaker 7: making over fifteen in the next couple of years.
Speaker 3: It's gonna that's gonna be the norm.
Speaker 7: And I think Leo Carlson, I mean, he's this guy
Speaker 7: is he's a legit, bona fide superstar.
Speaker 3: He's going to be and I think in five or
Speaker 3: six years, I know right now it.
Speaker 5: Is he saying. He's saying, X, this deal is gonna
Speaker 5: look good.
Speaker 3: It's gonna look good.
Speaker 1: Tell how about like in the NFL first round picks,
Speaker 1: You're like, well, that's like a fifty percent chance the
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be like a star tight end, like that's
Speaker 1: the first one pick is very valuable in hockey.
Speaker 6: You go maybe definitely, yeah, definitely more of a crap
Speaker 6: shoot I think. I mean, Pat Verbeek's had a pretty
Speaker 6: good record drafting in Anaheim. And the only other thing
Speaker 6: I was gonna add to this is they got Beckett
Speaker 6: Seneca was going to be an RFA in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 6: And if Pat Verbeek does the same thing with him
Speaker 6: and waits till the last minute to get that deal done,
Speaker 6: Ducks fans are gonna lose their mind. Like, Beckett Seneca
Speaker 6: better get his extension figured out next summer or the fall,
Speaker 6: next fall at the absolute latest.
Speaker 5: They can't let they can't let him.
Speaker 6: They can't go through the exact same stuff with Beckett
Speaker 6: Seneca that they're now going through with Carlson and coach.
Speaker 5: I love that they came out and they're like, we
Speaker 5: love our decoor.
Speaker 3: Yeah that was you.
Speaker 2: Lost four defense. Love what we got right.
Speaker 3: Now right side.
Speaker 4: I love at seven point two million a year is listen,
Speaker 4: we at it before. I'm a player spot. I love
Speaker 4: when guys get paid. But oh my god, did he
Speaker 4: absolutely rob Pat Verbeek. Seven point two million for five
Speaker 4: years is crazy for a guy that hasn't played over
Speaker 4: sixteen minutes a night.
Speaker 7: Well, you heard what I think in that deal that
Speaker 7: I believe. This is what I've heard is that they
Speaker 7: were around the three million range when they were negotiating,
Speaker 7: and then the Leo Carlson thing and it went to seven.
Speaker 5: Great job by the agent, like.
Speaker 3: That job by all the agents.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't like, they're gonna have to trade.
Speaker 4: They're gonna have to trade Crider or Kilarn or both
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: They might have to.
Speaker 4: Trade Troy Terry. You might have to move Troy Terry,
Speaker 4: which I think, you know, four years at seven million. Honestly,
Speaker 4: that could free up the cap space. I'd moved Troy Terry,
Speaker 4: try to bring in somebody else, or you move Crider
Speaker 4: and kill I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one of them, one of them has
Speaker 3: to go. But no matter what, one of them has
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 1: Will say, I'm always taking a really good luck what
Speaker 1: tal puts for the headline for each episode. So, for example,
Speaker 1: the put Keaton Verahoff is ready breaking down a wild
Speaker 1: weekerd phraseency He'll put Jackson Blake as a champ, Brady
Speaker 1: joins his bro Catherine Tappan does it all at least
Speaker 1: higher Hiller Hurricane season Baby. The reason I mentioned this
Speaker 1: is my recommendation for this week's episode should.
Speaker 2: Be two hooped teams. I just think I think that
Speaker 2: should be the headline.
Speaker 1: And quite honestly, if I saw that, I would click
Speaker 1: on just my suggestion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, two my former teams too. Yeah, we call that
Speaker 4: for Loube, we call that a shit sandwich. Troy Terry out.
Speaker 6: For another five or six months, by the way, speaking
Speaker 6: of trading toy term, So that's gonna be tough.
Speaker 5: It's a great start for them next season.
Speaker 1: This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life. Meet the Dundon's Danny Breer, Pat ver Beek.
Speaker 1: Not only people ashall Taken heat. The engraved names are
Speaker 1: killing Hurricane staff and players. Recently unveiled grave for Hurricanes
Speaker 1: are Tom Dundon, who JD is as polarizing as against
Speaker 1: people go. He's really smart guy Blazers fans not crazy
Speaker 1: about him. A little tight fisted, but they did win.
Speaker 1: Now he puts his name in the cup, of course,
Speaker 1: did you the owner of the team, you pay the bills?
Speaker 2: Please your wife Rushka. I guess behind every great man,
Speaker 2: there's a great woman. Fair five children.
Speaker 1: Hanging a second Cayden, Dax, Drew, Blake and Taken all
Speaker 1: had their names and graved in the cup.
Speaker 2: Now, to their credit, they did make sure to include
Speaker 2: the great Nick de.
Speaker 1: Laurier love them Let's Go Flyers, even though he played
Speaker 1: barely three minutes in their entire playoff run. But Jadie,
Speaker 1: this is about as week as it gets if you
Speaker 1: if you want know the headline for you week saw
Speaker 1: us five kids engraved on the cup.
Speaker 2: That is shameful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kind of a can you call this?
Speaker 4: Can you call the nepotism or I mean this is
Speaker 4: kind of those you know, it's an owner that without
Speaker 4: the owner, you know, there is no team and there
Speaker 4: is no franchise. But again that's the owner, not his
Speaker 4: kids that are what's the youngest.
Speaker 7: Like four?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like four?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Was he the inspiration in the muse for for building
Speaker 4: this franchise. There's just so many other people that and
Speaker 4: it does take a village to win a Stanley Cup.
Speaker 4: And you know, I haven't won one, but you know,
Speaker 4: talking to guys around the league and stuff like that, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, there's been other teams that have done
Speaker 4: it in franchises, but I don't know. I just I
Speaker 4: think you got to put it that there's the little
Speaker 4: people behind the scenes that do so much, Like come on,
Speaker 4: like you can figure you can find four names that
Speaker 4: aren't those kids that contributed probably as much as is
Speaker 4: or more than some of the players on the roster.
Speaker 2: They love Wilder more than anything the world. Your lovely daughter.
Speaker 1: You would never in a million years, if you.
Speaker 2: No, you will, I'll do it. You got the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 3: There's not a chance, not a chance, no chance.
Speaker 5: That put my daughter on there. In a fucking second.
Speaker 7: That is the biggest zero fox given move I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: To put it was two rows of Dundon's. That's all
Speaker 3: I saw was Dunded, Dundonne Dunded, Like.
Speaker 7: Maybe just do Dunded family, Just put this, leave it
Speaker 7: at that that, you know, Dundon family.
Speaker 3: Family.
Speaker 1: Do you guys sacrifice life and limb for decades of
Speaker 1: your line for one chance with your name of the
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup?
Speaker 2: And you're telling me some rich owner is gonna put
Speaker 2: his kids names. You're like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4: You go, yeah, but if you go and ask him,
Speaker 4: he'd probably say, hey, how about you buy the team?
Speaker 5: Then yeah, exactly, he's got to get the fuck I want.
Speaker 4: All right, listen, we're we're also paid handsomely to do
Speaker 4: that job. And it's a it's a kid's game, and
Speaker 4: it's you know, the fans are why. You know, I
Speaker 4: truly believe that the fans that are coming out are
Speaker 4: the reason why we get paid what we get because
Speaker 4: it's a takes a whole village for we're the end
Speaker 4: product of, you know, of so much planning and prodding.
Speaker 4: But again, ownership, there's somebody that doesn't want to shell
Speaker 4: out one point five Billy. Yeah, I mean he wants
Speaker 4: to put his kid on the on the thing. I
Speaker 4: mean said, do I condone it?
Speaker 3: No, but he has every rate.
Speaker 5: You're right, I kind of love it's something you don't.
Speaker 3: Agree with it, you gotta love it.
Speaker 2: I get it. Very contrarion Yeah, me to. The Capitals
Speaker 2: had a great offseason.
Speaker 1: Addition to Jordan cayru Boone Jenner, Alex Tuck really started
Speaker 1: their summer last week. Though captain Alex Ovechkan announced can
Speaker 1: be returning to the Caps at least one more season,
Speaker 1: solidifying might be the best top.
Speaker 2: Nine forward unit in the league.
Speaker 1: He marked the occasion by surprising a drinking club in Russia.
Speaker 5: What a surprise.
Speaker 2: Enjoying some bruise at the fans. What can we expect
Speaker 2: Nate from OVI in his twenty second season. He'll enter
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 1: With nine hundred and twenty nine career goals. I don't
Speaker 1: think he gets to one thousand. I think I thought
Speaker 1: that like a year ago, and Jedd he was like,
Speaker 1: no chance. And I'm with team JD on that. But
Speaker 1: what Bruce Pado said to me date was you put
Speaker 1: Alaso Vechlin's name in the lineup.
Speaker 2: That's thirty five goals. Like period.
Speaker 1: You can say what you want as far as a
Speaker 1: liability to our foot player defensively, he has to hog
Speaker 1: time in the power play like it's a big deal.
Speaker 2: But that's thirty five goals. Good to go.
Speaker 7: That's what I was gonna say. I was gonna say
Speaker 7: it was automatic thirty. Probably around thirty goals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd go thirty or thirty five, Bruce.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say right around twenty five thirty.
Speaker 7: But I would say he's he's going to be on
Speaker 7: the power play, he's going to be in his spot,
Speaker 7: he's going to play in that top six. He might
Speaker 7: have even play in the third line because their third line
Speaker 7: is that good too. So I think it's going to
Speaker 7: be the same Alexander Rovechkin were used to me, I'm
Speaker 7: sure he's gonna be used differently like he was last
Speaker 7: season with what the no defensive zone face offs and
Speaker 7: uh situational play with whatever that whatever the game is
Speaker 7: that and they need certain players on the ice.
Speaker 3: But I think Ovi's gonna be OVI.
Speaker 4: Ah, yeah, listen, I we got to we got to
Speaker 4: interview Spencer Carby on HL tonight, and like two three
Speaker 4: weeks ago, I think before OVI came back, and he
Speaker 4: was he was talking to us and he's like, I
Speaker 4: was like, if you talked to Ovi? And I think
Speaker 4: Tony Lefton asked him if you talk to Ovie at all?
Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, I just he checks in like
Speaker 4: once a week, be like, hey, what's up, coach, hows
Speaker 4: everything going? And every time, you know, he'd he kept
Speaker 4: telling Carby like yeah, I'm training, working out this and that,
Speaker 4: and so you know, I'm shocked. I was fully convinced
Speaker 4: he was done. I gotta eat Crow. I've been wrong
Speaker 4: about him every single turn. I think for three years
Speaker 4: they said he won't go over thirty goals. I've been
Speaker 4: wrong every single year. And then I said he's going
Speaker 4: to retire. I've been wrong. I don't know what to
Speaker 4: make ov. This team's gonna be fun to watch. I
Speaker 4: think it's gonna be one A, one B. Carolina in
Speaker 4: them and even talking to carvery like he seemed so
Speaker 4: excited to have so much, you know, I want to say,
Speaker 4: so many different kinds of player in his top nine
Speaker 4: to kind of maneuver and he's like, I can't wait
Speaker 4: to put lines together. Like he's got the speed of
Speaker 4: Cairou now that he hasn't had. He has the kind
Speaker 4: of Alex Tuck side of power, another power forward. You
Speaker 4: obviously you have Wilson and the Protus brothers. You know
Speaker 4: they're going to be extremely extremely fun to watch. And yeah,
Speaker 4: this is a team that I expect big things from
Speaker 4: this year.
Speaker 6: Full season of Cole Hudson too. I just want to
Speaker 6: add that, a full season of Cole Hudson on the back.
Speaker 3: And PLD PLD as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hit grip, mean time is Russia back?
Speaker 1: Speaking of OWI big news last week at the International
Speaker 1: Olympic Committee lifted the suspension. The Russian Olympic Committee opened
Speaker 1: the door for Russian athletes to compete for their country
Speaker 1: at the twenty thirty Winter Olympics in their French Alps.
Speaker 1: Canadian Olympic Committee objected the move. No word from the
Speaker 1: NHL yet and if Russia could be included in the
Speaker 1: World Cup schedule for twenty twenty eight, Obi will be
Speaker 1: forty two at the time of that tournament. Hasn't committed
Speaker 1: internacity for Russia since twenty nineteen. I'm gonna say I
Speaker 1: doubt he captains the Russian team, although never seen. Every
Speaker 1: of these guys do certainly love Mother Russia. And I
Speaker 1: know it's complicated in terms of geopolitics, invasion of Ukraine,
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be allowed to compete, et cetera. But I'll
Speaker 1: say this, I like hockey when the best teams are involved,
Speaker 1: and I just again, I'm not gonna involved in the politics.
Speaker 1: I just like seeing when the best players are there.
Speaker 1: To me, it always fe a little empty when Russia
Speaker 1: was not there. JD played in Russia. He knows their
Speaker 1: passion for hockey, et cetera. I just liked the move
Speaker 1: as a hockey fan. Is that okay to say.
Speaker 7: Nate one hundred percent and conceivably, I mean, you look
Speaker 7: at the three best goaltenders that arguably in the league
Speaker 7: are all Russian and you know Sorokian, Vasilevsky, Shakin, and
Speaker 7: then you have their forward lineup and all their guys,
Speaker 7: and you think about, you know, four nations. You think
Speaker 7: about the Olympics, and you think about what if you
Speaker 7: add Russia into this, like it's a different tournament, completely
Speaker 7: different tournament. And now that they're back in and you
Speaker 7: mentioned Ov, I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 7: doubt Ov.
Speaker 3: I'm playing until he's forty two.
Speaker 7: And who knows, I could see Ovi being done after
Speaker 7: next year, going back, playing a year in Russia and
Speaker 7: then joining the Olympic team. I could see that happening too. So, uh,
Speaker 7: this is this is good. This is good for the league,
Speaker 7: good for the players. And you know that you know
Speaker 7: other you know, the other nations, they want to play
Speaker 7: against Russia, they want to play against the other best players.
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 1: You're the only one of us who spent meaningful time
Speaker 1: in Russia. What does this mean to you?
Speaker 5: So that's a matsa ball, right.
Speaker 4: This is a ninety percent of the guys on that
Speaker 4: roster live and play in the United States of America.
Speaker 4: So you know, I feel like it's I've always felt
Speaker 4: that punishing, you know, punishing players in people, and you know,
Speaker 4: I call it regular people that are just trying to
Speaker 4: live their life day to day. You know, ninety nine
Speaker 4: percent of us on planet Earth don't want war. It's
Speaker 4: government stuff. It's government, like you said, it's true political stuff.
Speaker 4: Hockey should rise above that. Soul should all sport. It
Speaker 4: should be a place to unite everybody. And you know,
Speaker 4: it's a little callous and it's a little arrogant to
Speaker 4: kind of block one country when you know, then we
Speaker 4: start going g politically. Every country has its faults, every
Speaker 4: country does bad things. You know, this is bad as well.
Speaker 4: But again it's not the players. These guys you talk
Speaker 4: to any single Russian citizen, Russian player.
Speaker 5: None of them want war. Nobody does.
Speaker 4: We just want to live our life, make some paper,
Speaker 4: make love to a beautiful woman or man if that's
Speaker 4: what you're into, and go home and go to sleep
Speaker 4: and take care of our families.
Speaker 5: And that's it.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's kind of you know, to me,
Speaker 4: I'm like they should have and the fact that, like
Speaker 4: I said, they're all they all live here, they all
Speaker 4: live in Miami, So go to Golden Aisles in Florida.
Speaker 4: Every single NHL Russian players there. I skated with twelve
Speaker 4: of them that are probably going to be on Team Russia.
Speaker 4: These guys are just living you mean, they're they're living
Speaker 4: on the beach in Florida. They love living in the States.
Speaker 4: And it's not the States and it's not America that
Speaker 4: makes a decision. It's the i HF for you know,
Speaker 4: the governing body of that. But again, to me, I
Speaker 4: don't know, it's a little bit of the pot calling
Speaker 4: the kettle black.
Speaker 5: So but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this twel those as we're both Piganora fans.
Speaker 1: A lot of Russians are in Brooklyn. Those guys are
Speaker 1: getting after the headquarters right now as we speak, so
Speaker 1: they'll be excited and write a party when we come back.
Speaker 1: It's the mid section of the podcast. No guests, we
Speaker 1: don't need it. There's still lots of free agents out.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of plug in where some of these
Speaker 1: guys are going to go. Let's coming up next here
Speaker 1: on NHL unscripted. Most of the big names off the board.
Speaker 1: Anthony Mantha did just son a two year deal in
Speaker 1: New Jersey for a nine point five million Mantha coming
Speaker 1: off a thirty three goal season in Pittsburgh playing primarily
Speaker 1: with him, getting Malcolm now could get a chance to
Speaker 1: ride shot him with Jack Hughes thoughts in the move
Speaker 1: for the Devil's JAD He talked earlier about Barret Hayton nap,
Speaker 1: But what do you think about Mantha to New Jersey?
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 7: I like that Sunny Mana went out and got Anthonymantha,
Speaker 7: big body. I think they need some size up front.
Speaker 7: They you know, they're not a huge group up front,
Speaker 7: and right now they got him slought on the second
Speaker 7: line with Jack Hughes and yesper Brad on a daily face. Yes,
Speaker 7: So I think it's gonna be a good fit. And
Speaker 7: you know, Anthony Mantha had a really good season last
Speaker 7: year obviously, and he's been a guy. He's always been
Speaker 7: a guy that's underachieved for me, Like he even when
Speaker 7: he was in Detroit and those other things, he had
Speaker 7: all this ability and just never really it never really
Speaker 7: came out to the forefront. And then last year in
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh he was so good and you saw it and
Speaker 7: you saw his size, and you know he's.
Speaker 3: Actually sneaky tough too.
Speaker 7: So like this guy has a lot of different intangibles
Speaker 7: that I think are gonna help New Jersey. I think
Speaker 7: I think it's a really good, really good pickup.
Speaker 4: He's uh, he's the greatest player on last year of
Speaker 4: his deal in the NHL history. He's fantastic. You get
Speaker 4: him on last year of his deal, He's unbelievable. So
Speaker 4: this year, I don't know how great it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: But next year, New Jersey Devil fans.
Speaker 1: Stult to a guy you're seeing his only motivated when
Speaker 1: he's molney on the table.
Speaker 7: I mean I did that a couple of times too.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'll do that, aren't.
Speaker 4: We look at his deals? Go tell go through his deals?
Speaker 4: Hit the last year of his contract. He is a
Speaker 4: fucking dog. So this year probably not. Sometimes maybe we'll
Speaker 4: see if I tell.
Speaker 5: You what next year.
Speaker 4: Come next year, twenty five thirty goals and Jersey's in
Speaker 4: the playoffs. But sorry, New Jersey Devil's fans might be
Speaker 4: tough sledding this year.
Speaker 2: But I love it both called big body love it.
Speaker 2: I like that stud. He went two years, then didn't
Speaker 2: want to go three years. He would have mail hit
Speaker 2: him for two years, should.
Speaker 4: Have went one year deal, he would have been. Anthony
Speaker 4: Manthon a one year deal is a dangerous man.
Speaker 2: So truly it's a one year, nine point five million
Speaker 2: dollar tail.
Speaker 1: You're telling me if he lights it up that second year,
Speaker 1: he'll be worth that nine million.
Speaker 2: All right, best remaining free agents.
Speaker 1: Take a quick look at some of these names on
Speaker 1: the board. Thoughts on this duet here JD. Patrick, Kane,
Speaker 1: Vladimir Tarasenko. You're gonna play a spot where those guys
Speaker 1: could end up.
Speaker 4: Oh, man, you know, Tarasenko is interesting one. You know,
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna wait to see I They're probably
Speaker 4: both way. I bet you Caane and Tarasenko both waiting
Speaker 4: for each other to see where that one goes, you know,
Speaker 4: to maybe set the market for them. But you know,
Speaker 4: Kaner is an interesting one. You know, it's gonna be
Speaker 4: in one of those top five teams. I don't see
Speaker 4: him going to Colorado. You know, Utah doesn't really need him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know, not that I put Utah on the
Speaker 4: top five, but Minnesota. Maybe Zukuerello's gone. Maybe Kaner goes
Speaker 4: to Mini, maybe goes to Buffalo, maybe he goes home.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: So you know there's a couple of places that I
Speaker 4: had thought of, even you know, you look at it
Speaker 4: off the kind of something that's maybe a little bit outside,
Speaker 4: but you know, Montreal Canadians potentially could be a spot.
Speaker 4: I don't, you know, really know enough with where Kaner
Speaker 4: wants to go and what he's thinking of doing. But
Speaker 4: you know, I expected to be to a contender, just
Speaker 4: like Laddie's gonna go to a contender. And I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be surprised. Also if Tampa Bay sniffing up both these guys.
Speaker 4: I named every team, I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I like, I like this one can say hard, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just give you a listed you too much.
Speaker 1: One you're most excited about Marcus Johansson, Michael Bunting.
Speaker 2: You like Tolvin and James Van Riemsdyke.
Speaker 3: M Marcus Johansson the one. I like that one. He's
Speaker 3: always been a guy for me.
Speaker 7: He's you know, been kind of a Swiss army knife
Speaker 7: on every team he's been on and plays in a
Speaker 7: lot of different situations. I could see him in a
Speaker 7: in Boston. Maybe I looked at him in a Boston role.
Speaker 7: You know, he can play in a you know, third
Speaker 7: line or second line, first line role. You know, Tara
Speaker 7: Sinko one, I was interesting. I thought of Utah, and
Speaker 7: then I also thought, like, if Kane doesn't go to Buffalo,
Speaker 7: I could see Terry Sinkle going to Buffalo as well.
Speaker 3: If that doesn't, like like you said, it doesn't work out.
Speaker 7: But the one for the other one that jumps out
Speaker 7: is Clinkberg going to Anaheim. Like we talked about Anaheim
Speaker 7: kneeing a right handed defenseman. So I look at it too.
Speaker 7: As you know, you have Jackson leccolem. You don't have
Speaker 7: olwen Zelweger anymore. You know, if Jackson leccolem gets hurt
Speaker 7: or whatever happens, I mean, knock on wood, but you
Speaker 7: don't have your number one power play guy. I mean
Speaker 7: maybe you'll, you know, maybe Clinkberg steps in and he can.
Speaker 3: Do that role.
Speaker 7: So they need right hand and shot defenseman. And that's
Speaker 7: another one that just screams to me, to Anaheim right now.
Speaker 4: I got one guy that And it happens every year
Speaker 4: there's a player usually defenseman, which sucks out us. But
Speaker 4: Logan Stanley, yeah, Logan Stanley. I don't know what his
Speaker 4: agent did or what you know. I think the end
Speaker 4: when he got traded to Buffalo. I think that hurt
Speaker 4: a stock. You know, he barely played and then you know,
Speaker 4: was like scratched at times in the in the finals,
Speaker 4: he was playing like eighteen minutes of twenty minutes and
Speaker 4: Winnipeg at nine goals. You know, I think he I
Speaker 4: think he could benefit a team big time. So I
Speaker 4: think he's gonna end up probably having to take a
Speaker 4: one year deal. I'd be surprised if he, you know,
Speaker 4: gets more than that. At this point, it's unfortunate. I
Speaker 4: think he still might get something. But yeah, I thought
Speaker 4: he was going to make a bag this offseason and
Speaker 4: to tals point before, like a lot of teams have
Speaker 4: filled up their needs. So I don't know if he
Speaker 4: was asking for too much and priced himself out or
Speaker 4: he's got five six offers, but it doesn't look it
Speaker 4: looks like a lot of teams have picked up the
Speaker 4: d men they wanted. You know, I could see maybe
Speaker 4: even a shark's going after him. I'd still like him
Speaker 4: if he becomes cheap enough, you know, for that five
Speaker 4: to six roll bringing another tree. But it's tough for him, man.
Speaker 4: I expected him to be off the board by now.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 1: And as far as goalies are concerned tal It's not
Speaker 1: exactly Jerry Cheevers, Bernie Brunt, Ken Dryden, but Cam Talbot,
Speaker 1: Connor Ingram, Peter Murrazik, who tickles your fancy.
Speaker 6: I've always liked Kem Talbot. That's a guy who's been
Speaker 6: around a long time now.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: I covered him when he stole our Marty b Rom's
Speaker 6: backup spot with the Rangers and came out of nowhere
Speaker 6: to win that backup spot behind Henrik and he's just
Speaker 6: been going and going and going ever since. I mean,
Speaker 6: if there's a team out there that needs a solid
Speaker 6: veteran backup, you can do a lot worse than Cam Talbot,
Speaker 6: in my opinion. Another guy I was going to quickly mention,
Speaker 6: I don't know if we did, you know, mention him
Speaker 6: at all in the so far, but James Van Riemsdek
Speaker 6: is a guy who you know what he brings year
Speaker 6: after year after year. Seven power play goals for Detroit
Speaker 6: last season. That's not bad for a guy who you
Speaker 6: could probably get on a one year veterans veteran minimum
Speaker 6: probably for that guy, and you want to keep playing.
Speaker 5: He can help a team out on their power play.
Speaker 3: Av You know whose power Play struggled last year.
Speaker 1: JVR let's ahi, guys, that's where the Flyers were gonna get.
Speaker 1: Jero Nate I said, we just see me on face
Speaker 1: offs of the power play. She would have been the
Speaker 1: guy go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, g's there. Right, he went back to Ottawa. I mean,
Speaker 4: you got David Paran, you got Adam Henriq, you got
Speaker 4: uh Carson Sussi. You know, I'm wondering what Toronto's gonna
Speaker 4: do with Cali yarncrock as well. Are they going to
Speaker 4: resign him there? Over the cap They're gonna move somebody.
Speaker 4: I think they're still trying to move Morgan Riley. Maybe
Speaker 4: that's holding up a lot of stuff. I still, I
Speaker 4: still think Morgan Riley has the potential to not be
Speaker 4: Toronto Mapleve at the start of the season. But I
Speaker 4: still I still think there's a lot of exciting, Like
Speaker 4: there's still some moves that are going to be made.
Speaker 4: I think in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Nice last topic, Bedard bedridden.
Speaker 1: Chicago already taken plenty of heat for trading the fourth
Speaker 1: overall picking the draft for the right to make Bowen
Speaker 1: bayhim the highest peed defenseman in NHL history. Now comes
Speaker 1: where it starts in or Conrad. We'll miss the start
Speaker 1: of the season after shoulder surgery. Do an injury sustained
Speaker 1: during a summer skate in Vancouver? What but Dark's still
Speaker 1: restricted free agent needs to be signed, so this could
Speaker 1: put a wrench into that.
Speaker 2: More importantly, JD a summer skate in Vancouver.
Speaker 5: Come on, but Dard?
Speaker 3: Fuck Cotters?
Speaker 2: Why got her? Why but he go rollerblading? Go to
Speaker 2: the beach?
Speaker 4: Take these Oh that was unfortunate. That was unfortunate. It happens.
Speaker 4: You have to listen. You have to we play a
Speaker 4: full contact sport. You can't you know, played tittley winks
Speaker 4: all summer. You have to get a grinding and he
Speaker 4: toepicked pretty much. Yeah, he toe picked going backwards. It's
Speaker 4: like the most unfortunate, unlucky thing, and he caught his shoulder.
Speaker 5: It's stinks, man.
Speaker 4: It's honestly, like, there's nothing worse than getting hurt in
Speaker 4: the summer. It's happened to me, where like I sprained
Speaker 4: an ankle or you're like two three weeks and you're like,
Speaker 4: this just threw off my whole summer, not to mention
Speaker 4: four to six months, Like may your surgery.
Speaker 5: Chicago's in trouble. They're in trouble, man, tell you what.
Speaker 4: Chicago's right there with Anaheim and Vancouver there, they're they're
Speaker 4: in trouble. Anim I think is still better than both
Speaker 4: those teams because they're forward group. But uh, there's gonna
Speaker 4: be some teams out west that are struggling early. But yeah,
Speaker 4: this is Chicago's in one, I think big time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel bad for I feel bad for the
Speaker 7: kid because you know, he got all he had all
Speaker 7: that steam going and right before was a Christmas he
Speaker 7: gets hurt, right, he was playing so well, comes back
Speaker 7: then this happens, and I you know, you saw the
Speaker 7: way he fell, and I've had two left shoulder surgeries
Speaker 7: for a c separations, and I can just tell by
Speaker 7: the way he was like he fell that it was,
Speaker 7: you know, and he was grabbing his shoulder. You're just like,
Speaker 7: oh fuck, that's not good. So it's tough for him
Speaker 7: because I look at it too.
Speaker 3: For him.
Speaker 7: You know, he he can't start the season on time.
Speaker 7: He's still a young guy. You know, it takes time.
Speaker 7: When you come back from that and you're right in
Speaker 7: the middle of the season, it takes like you know,
Speaker 7: you're not going to be lighting the world on fire
Speaker 7: right away. I mean, yeah, he is Connor Burdard, but
Speaker 7: it's gonna take some time to get back into it.
Speaker 7: Your shoulders just not the same. So I'm sure he's
Speaker 7: gonna be okay, but it's just tough for him for
Speaker 7: this to happen. This young, no doubt about. It's still
Speaker 7: to come here.
Speaker 1: In NHL unscripted, a two brute Daniel Albertson is sticking
Speaker 1: the knife in the Autawa Centers and going to the
Speaker 1: Trammo police. We'll discuss Alfie's move behind the bench right
Speaker 1: after this.
Speaker 2: Time, not for CENTI five and sixty.
Speaker 1: You know you're a nerd win you go to the
Speaker 1: theater a week in advance just to buy your tickets
Speaker 1: to the Odyssey and then realize it might be a
Speaker 1: little late. I went for the six o'clock PM show
Speaker 1: Garden State JD twelve minutes from my house. I sa,
Speaker 1: I'll do it a week in advance. Third row imax.
Speaker 1: It's not front row, it's.
Speaker 5: Not second, it's off on the neck.
Speaker 1: Third row, and it's a three hour movie. Two fifty
Speaker 1: two plus trailers. Firks and to walk on the stiff neck,
Speaker 1: Like what happened? White put a strap on him? Like, no,
Speaker 1: I just I was watching the Odyssey.
Speaker 4: Sorry took us see Alis. I got stuck half boy.
Speaker 1: Two hooped guys over here, just stuck watching the Odyssey
Speaker 1: for three.
Speaker 2: Hours one in two. I just have to hope there's
Speaker 2: a couple of later rivals. I take one of the scenes.
Speaker 5: I'm using that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely White pulled up the strap on Sorry my
Speaker 1: next little.
Speaker 5: That is so good.
Speaker 4: Next time I said of his stiff neck, was White
Speaker 4: wearing a strap bomblas, That's good?
Speaker 5: How was it?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: It's coming up this Friday, so I'm trying to avoid
Speaker 1: the early reviews. What critics can do now with the
Speaker 1: students have done it is they allowed critics to do
Speaker 1: quick reviews on Twitter and Instagram.
Speaker 2: So Richard Roper, the Great Richard Roper years ago, you're
Speaker 2: to Cisco, Hebert. I just watched it.
Speaker 1: By the way, looks at William Shott and I love
Speaker 1: the guy who's put on some weight. And he did
Speaker 1: like a thirty second review. He was like, I had
Speaker 1: the same feeling watching the Odyssey that have when I
Speaker 1: watched one of me and Tal's favorites, Spike Lee's do
Speaker 1: the Right Thing. I had the same thing when I
Speaker 1: was watching Quentin Tarantino's pulp Fiction. I had the same
Speaker 1: thing when I was watching two thousand Space Saucy. This
Speaker 1: is one of the great films I've experienced in that
Speaker 1: Who knows that this will add up to those all time,
Speaker 1: but it's one of Chris Nolan's best films. It's one
Speaker 1: of the best films of the year. Like Okay sold
Speaker 1: no spoilers. I was already in let's find.
Speaker 4: Out question for you, both of you in the top talent,
Speaker 4: I mean even you Nate. As as movie goes, you know,
Speaker 4: there's there's a lot of talk, you know, the casting
Speaker 4: and what are your thoughts when a movie that is
Speaker 4: Greek mythology is cast in a certain way, as you know,
Speaker 4: you're a man of a different race and ethnicity. But
Speaker 4: like you know, Elliott Page, Elliott Page being a warrior,
Speaker 4: I guess in it, and then Lupite and Young being
Speaker 4: a Hellen of Troy. You know, I'm just wondering what's
Speaker 4: your thoughts on that, because again, it's been both sides
Speaker 4: of the fence have been going crazy.
Speaker 5: I like a good movie. I don't give a shit
Speaker 5: but you know, I just.
Speaker 2: I would have reserved judgments. I see the movies.
Speaker 1: I see the movie, I go, I thought Elliot Page
Speaker 1: kind of sucked, and I think they cast him because
Speaker 1: he's trained gender, then I'll be annoyed. But if I
Speaker 1: see the film and go, I know it's with it
Speaker 1: or Lapio Young and fine. In fairness, I don't know
Speaker 1: the source material. I know about as much about Homer's
Speaker 1: Odyssey as I do about Homer Simpson, so like, I
Speaker 1: won't understand Oh great, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know the text.
Speaker 1: So it's not like I'm watching Death of the Salesman
Speaker 1: I play, which I love, Like, no, that's not accurate
Speaker 1: if I was watching Grapes of Wrath, so tell to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know the honesty, and everyone's like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, should I brush up on it? I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be speed reading it in the next
Speaker 1: two days, so we're just got to figure it out.
Speaker 1: I trust Christopher Nolan is going to make a film
Speaker 1: as accessible to somebody who knows Homer's Yossy as somebody
Speaker 1: who does not. I'm expecting a lot of action. I'm
Speaker 1: expecting it to look great in the big screen, and
Speaker 1: that's what.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't care. I'm gonna go see it.
Speaker 6: It's Christopher Nolan, Like I still don't understand Interstellar, but
Speaker 6: I'm still gonna go see the honysty What I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't get interested. I I heard that Tennant was
Speaker 6: more complicated than Interstellar.
Speaker 2: I why we are team Nolan all the way we
Speaker 2: would love for somebody want to be a team Nolan.
Speaker 5: But I was very confused.
Speaker 1: Tell me he's never made a bad way. I go,
Speaker 1: I guess you didn't sit through Tennant because.
Speaker 2: I have no idea that I'm still confused by.
Speaker 6: I heard Tenant was more complicated than Interstellar, and I
Speaker 6: finished Interstellar and I didn't know what.
Speaker 2: Was going on, So I was like, I just want
Speaker 2: to be confused.
Speaker 5: But my point is I'm going to see it anyways.
Speaker 6: I trust him implicitly, Like I'm sure more than half
Speaker 6: the people complaining about the casting have never read the
Speaker 6: source material, So I'm not I'm not waiting until all
Speaker 6: this bullshit about casting and what color this person is
Speaker 6: and who this person is. If it's good, it's good,
Speaker 6: and it sounds like it's pretty good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean three hours casting. Speaking speaking of casting,
Speaker 7: Sean Avery's in it?
Speaker 5: How did he that film?
Speaker 3: Again?
Speaker 5: He's an Oppenheimer's all he does? He like is he Christopher?
Speaker 5: Is he?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 1: Nolan just loves his thespian roots. He said, you know what,
Speaker 1: this guy brings it?
Speaker 4: Like really he does. He's in all three of those.
Speaker 4: That's a nice like good for him.
Speaker 2: You know what it is?
Speaker 1: I think didn't like Dion Phough And I think the
Speaker 1: fact that Sean Avery said Dempo took my sloppy seconds.
Speaker 2: That's Christopher Nolan's wampy. And you know what, team Sean Avery.
Speaker 1: It's for some reason Chris Nolan does not like Dianphanough.
Speaker 1: But Alicia Cuthbert that that's what this going on here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Adam Sandler has Rob Schneider and Christopher Nolan has
Speaker 6: Sean Avery. They gotta give you, gotta give him credit
Speaker 6: for this is like a big deal, like budget. I'm
Speaker 6: not I'm not talking about Sean Avery being in any
Speaker 6: of these movies are big time movies.
Speaker 5: He's in them, That's all that matters.
Speaker 1: I did want one drive by from Nate because I
Speaker 1: don't watch a ton of shows.
Speaker 2: The Emmy nominations came out, I know enough just to
Speaker 2: see them.
Speaker 1: Anominations go okay, yep, the Pit I've heard of it,
Speaker 1: but I don't's watch it, Noel Wiley whatever, DTF, Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: I was thrilled to see you recognize for a lot
Speaker 1: of nominations, but I am curious nate your thoughts and shrinking,
Speaker 1: which I've never seen. Despite the fact Tess, Harrison Ford
Speaker 1: and Jason Siegel. I just want to watch Michael J.
Speaker 2: Fox. I have one question, how much is Michael J.
Speaker 2: Fox in the show? Because he was I mean nominated,
Speaker 2: but maybe just because he is Michael J.
Speaker 3: Fox.
Speaker 7: No, he's in I would say at least three or
Speaker 7: four episodes at least, and him and him and Harrison
Speaker 7: Ford together, like the scenes there together, It's uh, they're
Speaker 7: so good. He's so good. I mean, the show is incredible.
Speaker 7: It gets better every season. It's it's the same writer
Speaker 7: Bill Lawrence obviously is Ted Lasso and and just creative writing.
Speaker 7: Obviously you get a little bit of everything. And actually
Speaker 7: one of my friends is on the show too, is
Speaker 7: named Marcus Silviatro. I do I do jiu Jitsu with him,
Speaker 7: he's one of the sons of the neighbors. But the show,
Speaker 7: Jude gee you can gee. So yeah, it's a great show.
Speaker 7: I highly recommend shrinking, absolutely shrinking a shot.
Speaker 2: And JD has a recommendation for the great Sterling K.
Speaker 2: Brown in Paradise.
Speaker 5: Oh sterling K. Brown. God damn it. What a beautiful
Speaker 5: man and a beautiful actor, good looking duet, intense.
Speaker 4: There's this scene in it he was him and James
Speaker 4: Marsden go on toe to toe and I love James Marsen.
Speaker 4: He walks circles around him, circles. Really, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 4: you can't even match that intensity.
Speaker 5: Come out.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: It's one reason why I love The Wibly Blood so
Speaker 1: muchcause Danielly Lewis is just punking Paul Dano like it's.
Speaker 2: Not even an argument.
Speaker 4: I like Paul Dano too. I like, is it Dano
Speaker 4: or Dano Paul dwne.
Speaker 1: You know, I always thought it was pronounced Dano, but
Speaker 1: it is actually pronounced Dano.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 4: I like Paul Dano a lot. I actually like him
Speaker 4: a lot. I think he's fantastic. Just think Daniel da Lewis.
Speaker 4: There's just mean hours from them there's Danieldy Lewis and
Speaker 4: everybody else inacting, and especially like intensity You're You're.
Speaker 5: Can't last of the Mohicans.
Speaker 1: Tarantino said, The Only Bloods one of his favorite movies.
Speaker 1: He said, but I just I think it's such an
Speaker 1: unfair fight. Watching D d L against Paul Dano. He goes,
Speaker 1: it's like uh Ali Quarry, which is a very dated
Speaker 1: boxing reference.
Speaker 2: But I love that.
Speaker 1: Tarantino said, it was very funny to be Anyways, what's
Speaker 1: it all about, Alphie jd? How about this Brady could
Speaker 1: truck trade didn't already put enough of a damper in
Speaker 1: the Outawa Senators offseason? Now, Daniel Offferson did an interview
Speaker 1: for the head coaching job of the Leafs to Go.
Speaker 2: How would make you assistant?
Speaker 5: But no problem?
Speaker 1: Associate coach under Jim Hiller, The Hall of Famer spent
Speaker 1: the past three seasons as an assistant in Ottawa. Franchise
Speaker 1: is all don leader and goals, assists and points. How
Speaker 1: much of kicking the balls is this to the city
Speaker 1: of Ottawa?
Speaker 4: I mean the Ottawa Centers are just in a room
Speaker 4: sitting on a chair watching the Toronto Maple's Make Sweet
Speaker 4: Sweet Love to their wife, girlfriend, mom, the whole kit
Speaker 4: and kaboodle. They are just oh, Mike, they they need
Speaker 4: that rink downtown so bad.
Speaker 5: They need that ring.
Speaker 4: Yes, they need they need it built tomorrow, yesterday, three
Speaker 4: weeks ago. Because nobody wants to go to the Brook
Speaker 4: Street Hotel. Nobody wants to go to Canada. Move it
Speaker 4: down to I. I I'm a little shocked at Alfredson,
Speaker 4: And I'd probably say that Matt Sundeed had more pull
Speaker 4: than we know behind the scenes of bringing off over there.
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I feel like it's a little
Speaker 4: you know, that's such a rivalry. You're not supposed to
Speaker 4: touch and you're not supposed to jump the line, So
Speaker 4: you know, I think it's fair to call alfreds In
Speaker 4: a scab and a defector on this one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, more than you can get promotion.
Speaker 2: He's a head coach. I get it, Bro, You're an
Speaker 2: assistant and now you're just lateral. Yeah, what are we doing?
Speaker 5: Lateral?
Speaker 3: Move swede swede love like you said.
Speaker 5: Just then over taking it up the tailpipe.
Speaker 6: He's an associate coach in Toronto technically, so it's not
Speaker 6: exactly lateral, but basically it is just want to clarify.
Speaker 2: No, but his associate that to me, it kind of
Speaker 2: sounds like the same thing.
Speaker 5: You guys, associated assistant develop.
Speaker 3: And he was coming.
Speaker 7: I would assume Alfie's coming to to help the power
Speaker 7: play in Toronto, right, He's coming in Hope, so he's
Speaker 7: a power play guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 2: Right, a couple of thoughts. He let the fans do it.
Speaker 1: Islanders have had their moments when it comes to trying
Speaker 1: new jerseys. They decided to let fans take charge of
Speaker 1: what they do. Next, Islanders will be introducing a new
Speaker 1: third jersey. A lot of fan designed the jersey through
Speaker 1: a contest, allowing Islanders faithful to submit the right nice.
Speaker 1: The team announcer received twelve thousand entries in five hours,
Speaker 1: and a team committee mae up of executives, players and
Speaker 1: other staff was like five finalists.
Speaker 2: Bad idea, JD or genius.
Speaker 5: No, I think it's good.
Speaker 4: My one of my favorite websites is ninety nine designs Nice.
Speaker 5: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: You submit a design, and you submit an idea for
Speaker 4: a design, and people bet on it, and then you
Speaker 4: just pick a group of people. You give them each
Speaker 4: their own separate notes for what they built you and
Speaker 4: then you know, it keeps and you end up with
Speaker 4: something pretty.
Speaker 5: Cool that you, you.
Speaker 4: Know, kind of create with somebody. So yeah, I think
Speaker 4: it's gonna be cool. I think listen to fan base.
Speaker 4: They understand what it means to be an Islander fan.
Speaker 4: They understand what it is to be an Islander, and
Speaker 4: part of the New York Islanders organization is supporting them
Speaker 4: for so long. So and I think there's gonna be
Speaker 4: some pretty creative people that come up with some pretty
Speaker 4: awesome stuff. And you know what better third jersey the
Speaker 4: sixth man jersey you want to call it as being
Speaker 4: the or seventh man if you acount a goalie, the
Speaker 4: seventh man jersey like made by the fans for the players,
Speaker 4: like you know, wearing the fans on their back.
Speaker 3: Pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Nay, what do you think of it?
Speaker 3: No, I think it's great.
Speaker 7: I think you're gonna see a lot more teams doing this.
Speaker 7: I thought that the design was awesome.
Speaker 3: I really liked it.
Speaker 7: I mean I think that you can think of other
Speaker 7: teams and like JD said, I think there's there's a
Speaker 7: lot of there's a lot of creative people out there
Speaker 7: that can that can do more than a lot of
Speaker 7: these organizations I'm sure with when it comes to artistry.
Speaker 7: So I think we're gonna see some sick their jerseys hopefully, well, I.
Speaker 2: Can only hope.
Speaker 1: And last lot hanging out flowers the newly weds. Plenty
Speaker 1: of players getting married this summer. Want to acknowledge the
Speaker 1: couple in San Jose had their wedding crash, but the
Speaker 1: one and only San Jose Shark's mascot, Sharky.
Speaker 2: Congrats the young couple.
Speaker 1: Sharky hitting the dance for as well JD as our
Speaker 1: former Sharks still doing work with the Sharks. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on just Sharky. I mean, he's one of the great
Speaker 1: mascots in the game of hockey.
Speaker 3: What did I miss?
Speaker 5: We're talking Sharkey?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 3: It's?
Speaker 2: Sharkis What are the great mascots in hockey?
Speaker 5: The best? Yeah, he's the best.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know Gritty's I mean, there's some
Speaker 4: really good mascots in the NHL, now Gritty And now
Speaker 4: who knows what the new team's coming in. If it's
Speaker 4: gonna be Houston, what are they gonna call Houston?
Speaker 5: What are they gonna call?
Speaker 4: You know, if Atlanta gets a team, So to me,
Speaker 4: some new mascots may be coming in. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: like Sharky's I mean he, I mean the iconic him
Speaker 4: coming off the ceiling. Yeah, on the on the zip
Speaker 4: line and he got caught. The best was that him
Speaker 4: or the Ducks guy?
Speaker 5: It was him?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: It was Sharks. Yeah, the Sharks.
Speaker 2: Our mascot grew is teuth.
Speaker 1: Never there's a mascot question, tal can handle those as well.
Speaker 1: You're asking me then, well, because you're a Sharks guy,
Speaker 1: And I said.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2: The kids.
Speaker 5: The kids love the mascots.
Speaker 1: Nate, nobody's anti mascot. You meet a guy who's I
Speaker 1: hate mascots, You got what's wrong with you? Like, just
Speaker 1: have some time, come on.
Speaker 3: No, I like mascots.
Speaker 7: I mean I think about the different teams that played
Speaker 7: for I mean Gritty Up you up in Montreal.
Speaker 3: Up is a good one in Mantreal. That's a great one.
Speaker 3: Some good mascots out there.
Speaker 5: My favorites.
Speaker 4: When they're absolute pissed tanks and they're just and you
Speaker 4: meet them out and they're just absolutely just.
Speaker 1: That's the better points. The mascot when they're unmasked comes
Speaker 1: like death to Smoochy, like Robin Williams like they're just crass, an.
Speaker 4: Angry, great deep cup movie like that Smoochy Edward.
Speaker 2: Work just an angry sour comedy.
Speaker 6: Very misanthropic was Edward Norton had a great recent interview
Speaker 6: where he talked extensively about Death to Smoochy By the way, Basically,
Speaker 6: he loved making it and was devastated when when it
Speaker 6: was when it bombed.
Speaker 2: Massive flop, but I underrated greatness.
Speaker 5: It was good. It a weird, dark, ye creepy movie.
Speaker 3: But it's like.
Speaker 2: Last thought, the favorite summer teammate wedding?
Speaker 1: Is there a particular team interviewers, You're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: that wedding was a blast.
Speaker 7: Oh, there's a couple of them. Steven Stamp Ghost his
Speaker 7: h it was a good one. Teddy Purcels was a
Speaker 7: good one too. His was out in Lake comb It, Italy.
Speaker 7: So that was that that didn't suck. So those are
Speaker 7: some fun ones he used. All all of them all
Speaker 7: had a common denominator. The shirts were off on the
Speaker 7: dance floor though, that's for sure. I'm sure JD can
Speaker 7: attest the same thing at his weddings.
Speaker 4: He went to JD always Yeah, I mean there's some
Speaker 4: good ones like I did a couple in like Winnipeg
Speaker 4: were just fucking grimy, deep, just the bathroom full of drugs,
Speaker 4: just at the groom. The groom didn't even sleep with
Speaker 4: the bride. They were the groom ended up like forty
Speaker 4: minutes outside downtown Winnipeg at like an after party, and
Speaker 4: then like it was just like a two day, absolute
Speaker 4: debaucherous weekend and like just middle of the summer, sweaty Winnipeg,
Speaker 4: and I just I always look back fondly on that
Speaker 4: because I'm like, you know, you think of like, oh
Speaker 4: the opulent you're in Italy and it's beautiful right now.
Speaker 4: Just give me middle of the I'm or Winnipeg just
Speaker 4: a crash. And then with the best part about those ones,
Speaker 4: My favorite part is like you know, back in my
Speaker 4: heyday when I was younger, and you know, just when
Speaker 4: full balls to the wall and then I'd run into
Speaker 4: like we'd be at like some random game like against
Speaker 4: Saint Louis and I'd be walking out and like one
Speaker 4: of like we're walking by like the family and they're like, JD,
Speaker 4: what's up, And I'm like, what's up?
Speaker 3: Like, whoa dude?
Speaker 2: What a party? We had?
Speaker 4: And I was like, who the fuck is this guy?
Speaker 4: When I partied with this guy the whole night at
Speaker 4: a wedding.
Speaker 5: And I'm sitting there and being like, yeah, great to
Speaker 5: meet Jill. You you made up with my aunt and.
Speaker 2: Going on right now? Oh my god, finger bang my aunt?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 3: Whoa another level? Another level?
Speaker 4: Easy, I just strap on VERI tell it a little crazy,
Speaker 4: exactly right?
Speaker 5: All right, Well you get fired next week.
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