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Speaker 1: best and worst through the weekend as we always do
Speaker 1: every Monday. Which you saw that you liked you didn't like.
Speaker 1: NBA All Star Game format Works Team Lebron wins controversy
Speaker 1: in the slam Dunk contest and Mason Rudolph return served
Speaker 1: to Miles Garrett on the so called racial slur. The
Speaker 1: commissioner of Major League Baseball had a bad weekend. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that as well. Sports outrage has several degrees. Now,
Speaker 1: there are times when an athlete commits an actual crime.
Speaker 1: Of course that's awful. Then there's the serious cheating scandals.
Speaker 1: The astro stealing signs Fitch into that category. Then there's
Speaker 1: the kind of controversy that is somewhat serious but actually
Speaker 1: kind of fun. That's where the twenty twenty slammed On
Speaker 1: contest fits him. They heat Derek Jones Junior beat The
Speaker 1: Magic's Aaron Gordon in one of the better competitions we've had. Now,
Speaker 1: you started to watch this and you're going, okay, we're
Speaker 1: an extra round because both players get perfect fifties, and
Speaker 1: then reportedly the judges conspired to have them tie again
Speaker 1: to force another round, but someone screwed up their math. Ironically,
Speaker 1: the second time Gordon has been jobbed in a dunk contest,
Speaker 1: it happened against Zach Levine in twenty sixteen. As well,
Speaker 1: Gordon stole the show Saturday Night. He jumped over seven
Speaker 1: foot five Celtics rookie Taco fall Jones Junior was great,
Speaker 1: but Gordon's dunk will be part of NBA history, even
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have the hardware to show for this. Now,
Speaker 1: even if they had tied, I'm under the impression that
Speaker 1: they would have had a vote off. They had five judges,
Speaker 1: so they would have voted to crown their slam Dunk Camp.
Speaker 1: We normally sort of look at the slam Dunk Contest
Speaker 1: and go, has anybody joining anything originally? Anything different? And
Speaker 1: I thought both of these guys were spectacular. I thought
Speaker 1: it was funny, and I'm not a slam Dunk contest guy.
Speaker 1: The three Point Contest was wonderful as well. I thought
Speaker 1: the NBA had a really good weekend. You know, the
Speaker 1: slam Dunk Contest. Now, Aaron Gordon says he's not going
Speaker 1: to compete anymore, and I understand that because he's probably
Speaker 1: going what do I have to do? And he did
Speaker 1: enough to win. If you're putting up five fifties, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing you should be crown champion. This is what Aaron
Speaker 1: Gordon does. He's a good player for Orlando. But I
Speaker 1: also think that he'll get more publicity by not winning
Speaker 1: the slam Dun Contest than you know, Jones Junior. Because
Speaker 1: I don't even think anybody knew about Derek Jones Junior.
Speaker 1: But Aaron Gordon, Oh, that's the guy lost slam Dunk Contest.
Speaker 1: You get a little publicity there for not winning something,
Speaker 1: because sometimes when you do win, people forget about it.
Speaker 1: But the controversy there. I like the Elham ending with
Speaker 1: the game last night, and I was looking at some numbers.
Speaker 1: I was curious about how hard these guys were playing
Speaker 1: first three quarters. It's really just let's have some fun,
Speaker 1: let's put on a show. I was fine with that.
Speaker 1: I like it when it gets a little more serious.
Speaker 1: But you know, with something at stake, and you had
Speaker 1: a lot of money at stake for charity, I broke
Speaker 1: down the quarters here. Actually I had somebody to do
Speaker 1: it for me. But in the first quarter the teams
Speaker 1: combined to shoot sixty two second quarter forty eight percent,
Speaker 1: third quarter fifty seven, fourth quarter thirty five percent. Dunks
Speaker 1: in the first quarter they combined for twenty three, twelve
Speaker 1: in the second, thirteen and the third, three and the fourth.
Speaker 1: Fouls two in the first quarter, five in the second,
Speaker 1: seven in the third, twenty one fouls in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Block shots one in the first quarter, two in the second,
Speaker 1: four in the third, seven in the fourth. Got interesting,
Speaker 1: got exciting. I thought guys were tensing up a little bit,
Speaker 1: Like you could actually see guys who were nervous because
Speaker 1: the amount of money that was at stake for these charities.
Speaker 1: So what worked. The only tweak I would have is
Speaker 1: you must win on a make shot, a maid shot.
Speaker 1: Now there was drama with Anthony Davis going to the
Speaker 1: line and look, I'm not looking for things to nitpick here.
Speaker 1: I would just like to have the game. I'm so
Speaker 1: tired of seeing all these free throws watching an NBA game.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see it on a maid shot because
Speaker 1: then you got somebody defending you. Now you can say, well,
Speaker 1: then they're going to foul them. And I understand that
Speaker 1: I am nitpicking. It was just you go to the
Speaker 1: line and then Anthony Davis said he missed the first
Speaker 1: one on purpose. I don't think so. I think you're
Speaker 1: starting to tense up a little bit, squeeze a little
Speaker 1: tighter there, and then he made the second one. But
Speaker 1: it was fun that there was a payoff there at
Speaker 1: the end. As for the slam dunk contest, not everybody
Speaker 1: has to if you want it to be serious. The
Speaker 1: reason why American Idol worked is because of one person,
Speaker 1: Simon cow I don't need common there to tell me
Speaker 1: what a dunk is or a great dunk. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a great performer. But if you want to put
Speaker 1: somebody there, Barkley would be honest. If you want to
Speaker 1: treat it like it's a serious event, then do so.
Speaker 1: Put the right people there. I just can't imagine where
Speaker 1: he got Doctor Jane Dominique Wilkins sitting next to Common going,
Speaker 1: what do we have in common here? We invented this.
Speaker 1: I would have as much validity on that committee as
Speaker 1: Common would. I mean, it seems like a nice guy,
Speaker 1: but okay, if you're gonna take it serious, then take
Speaker 1: it serious. And I can't have Dwyane Wade. He's not
Speaker 1: far removed from it. You know, the Miami Heat, and
Speaker 1: he's going to be voting on you know, Jones Junior.
Speaker 1: Remember the Miami Heat. It just doesn't look good, that's all.
Speaker 1: That's where you have to have somebody come in and go,
Speaker 1: you know what, that dunk is an eight dunks to seven?
Speaker 1: How about we do this? What's wrong with a nine
Speaker 1: point three? Why does it have to be a nine
Speaker 1: or a ten? Nine point seven? How about we get
Speaker 1: something where if you really want to go after this
Speaker 1: and you want to treat it like it's real and serious,
Speaker 1: then do it. If not, then we'll just have fun
Speaker 1: with this. Yeah, you're like getting into like Olympics. Yes, gymnastics. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where it's like there's technical points and then style. Yes,
Speaker 1: if you want to do okay, that's you. That's what
Speaker 1: it sounds like you. But I don't want anybody then
Speaker 1: to be crying that. You know, Hey you got jobbed here.
Speaker 1: If if you want it be serious, didn't have it
Speaker 1: be serious. If not, hey, it's just a great, you
Speaker 1: know exhibition there. These guys were a whole lot of
Speaker 1: fun there. Maybe DJ College can understand how to pronounce
Speaker 1: somebody's name in the slam dun What the hell? Why
Speaker 1: help me out with DJ coll like, I don't get it,
Speaker 1: get it, I just repeat the last one said. I
Speaker 1: don't hold on say anything there, anything anything, I just
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get DJ College. When Chance of
Speaker 1: Rapper was rapping and he seems like a talented guys,
Speaker 1: the rapper is, yeah, he's up there. DJ callaw with
Speaker 1: sweating like Patrick ewing. After thirty seconds and whatever Chance
Speaker 1: of Rapper finished the sentence, Let's say he said, hi,
Speaker 1: rise here, Hi, rise out of the bed. He just
Speaker 1: does the last word that the rapper says to pump
Speaker 1: like nenunciate it, punctuated, whatever word you want to use. Yes,
Speaker 1: you guys have to be nice. J College is actually
Speaker 1: performing during the second look in. Is he gonna be
Speaker 1: here in our studio? There's never been anyone on the
Speaker 1: more TV events in the history of sports. He's hit everything,
Speaker 1: every single event. Wasn't he at the Tuper Bowl? I
Speaker 1: think he was sure he was. I'm sure he was. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's kind of slipped into that palace killed him famous
Speaker 1: for being famous kind of thing. Were you not sure
Speaker 1: exactly what he does and why he keeps being invited
Speaker 1: to these Yeah, I don't know. I don't know his
Speaker 1: music music. Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm a big fan, but
Speaker 1: he can't turnout. He screwed up Patton his name. Wow,
Speaker 1: every single member of the media has done that once,
Speaker 1: especially two weeks ago, and I got killed for it.
Speaker 1: That's the hardest name DJ is introducing these guys. I
Speaker 1: think it's Connaton. I I don't think it's Connaughton. I
Speaker 1: go I've been chastised. I remember, you know, the judge
Speaker 1: from Milwaukee that we know he goes. You guys gotta
Speaker 1: get that name right. I think it's Connaton. Did he
Speaker 1: change it when he got to the pros? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like than I think it's Connaton.
Speaker 1: I remember when he was at Notre Dame. Isnt But
Speaker 1: I'm not being paid to introduce the swam dunk contest. Guys.
Speaker 1: But DJ Khalid was connaught, but it was it was fun.
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller will join us a little bit later on
Speaker 1: to discuss. But we got to play of the day.
Speaker 1: He got Stat of the Day and whole questions as well,
Speaker 1: right mclev Yeah, and it will not involve that player
Speaker 1: from the dunk contest from Milwaukee because I still can't
Speaker 1: say the name. I'm actually reading the fanetics now and
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do it. Okay, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I have a poule. If I told you on Friday,
Speaker 1: we'd be talking about one of these two things, Chris
Speaker 1: Paul getting a dunk in the All Star Game or
Speaker 1: James Harden getting called for an offensive foul in the
Speaker 1: All Star Game. I was shocked when I went, wait,
Speaker 1: they're gonna call an offensive fell and James Harden in
Speaker 1: they All Star Game. Not during the regular season. They'd
Speaker 1: never do that. But they called James Harden for an
Speaker 1: offensive found and went, WHOA, who are these officials? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How about this? This has been the debate both backstage
Speaker 1: and on Twitter. Did Aaron Gordon clear Taco fall yes
Speaker 1: or no? No, Taco leaned? It was Taco lean. He
Speaker 1: didn't didn't fall, he just leaned. But did he do
Speaker 1: enough to earn okay? So I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: what a perfect score. They shouldn't just hand out perfect scores.
Speaker 1: There are certain dunks that are you know, perfect down
Speaker 1: through history, but I don't think everyone is like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm fifty, Like that's where I go, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's probably forty nine point two something like that. But
Speaker 1: it feels like, oh, if you just you know, throw fifty,
Speaker 1: because everybody wants to celebrate that. And then the fact
Speaker 1: that they're conspiring and somebody who apparently is as good
Speaker 1: at math as I am screwed it up and they
Speaker 1: were gonna have a time, then they were gonna have
Speaker 1: a vote off. That's why I didn't get too crazy
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I feel bad for Aaron Gordon.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, you know, I've practiced this. I should
Speaker 1: have won this twice. Yeah, you're right, absolutely, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do it again. But I can't be up
Speaker 1: at arms if it feels like you had the June
Speaker 1: who's saying, hey, we want this to be a feel
Speaker 1: good dunk contest. We're gonna conspire to fix it. Yeah see,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of feeling bad for Derek Jones Junior because
Speaker 1: what he did was remarkable. The things that he was
Speaker 1: doing was just unbelievable. But everybody's kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you didn't really win it. I mean, he's did
Speaker 1: to jumping over people and still putting it through their
Speaker 1: legs and document what. Yeah, pau I thought Derrick Jones Jr.
Speaker 1: If I would have voted over the ality. I liked
Speaker 1: his little more. He's got a newer guy and put
Speaker 1: on a good show. But too he wanted to put
Speaker 1: jump over Shack Aaron Gordon, and Shack kind of waved
Speaker 1: him off, and then everyone says, there's taco, there's taco.
Speaker 1: He didn't practice this. This wasn't like a dunky practice.
Speaker 1: You don't. There's not a bunch of seven six guys
Speaker 1: hanging out in Orlando they could do this with. So
Speaker 1: you gotta give him credit for he basically jumped over
Speaker 1: a seven three guy, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: not a seven five? Maybe seven three? Right? Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling Derek Jones Juniors. But you guys, he
Speaker 1: did the same dunk like seven times, like basically last one.
Speaker 1: It was just like, okay, that was that was actually
Speaker 1: I like that boy. He went between the legs like
Speaker 1: four times. We know he can go between the legs.
Speaker 1: Give me something new. Aaron Gordon did that thing on
Speaker 1: the baseline where the ball went up and I don't
Speaker 1: even know what he did. He did like at three
Speaker 1: to sixty in the one handed three sixty. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't even describe it. But they have to slow it
Speaker 1: down because you don't know exactly what's going on. It's like, wow,
Speaker 1: wait he did all of that in one dunk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're a Tacco, you pretty much have to participate
Speaker 1: with the peer pressure of all the players that are
Speaker 1: baby here. If Shack already waved him off, can you
Speaker 1: really say that? I rather not when everyone's looking at you,
Speaker 1: and this could be the difference in your you know,
Speaker 1: this guy winning the dunk cont Well, it's not like
Speaker 1: your face is facing Aaron Gordon when he dungs. That
Speaker 1: would spice it up, like you're you know, it's not
Speaker 1: junk coming your way. It was, but you don't know it.
Speaker 1: You kind of just kind of tucked down a little.
Speaker 1: Pat Connaughton, that's from the Bucks, Yeah, Pat con Is
Speaker 1: it funny that they have Jannis at the Kombo and
Speaker 1: the name we can't pronounce as Pat Connaton, but it
Speaker 1: looks like Connaughton. I remember watching him at Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Unless they screwed it up there how to pronounce his name,
Speaker 1: or he just changed it when he got to the NBA.
Speaker 1: We're how many years into this and we're still getting Janis. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we went to the Taco Fall one. Did he clear
Speaker 1: because I think he cleared him? But whatever, Remember when
Speaker 1: we taught Taco Fall live when we were cheerleaders. By
Speaker 1: the way, that's still one of the most remarkable facts.
Speaker 1: When we were at the Houston Super Bowl and you
Speaker 1: guys dressed up as cheerleaders. And I remember when we
Speaker 1: walked out and all of a sudden, you go Central
Speaker 1: Florida that it's one of the taller guys I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It was Taco Fall. We were on that Taco Fall
Speaker 1: bandwagon well before anybody else was. But when you guys
Speaker 1: came running out in your Houston near leading outfit, I
Speaker 1: thought that was going to be a real embarrassing moment.
Speaker 1: And then I realized how much Paully loved it. It
Speaker 1: was like being in a player or something. I'm musically,
Speaker 1: haven't you got to play a role? You never gonna
Speaker 1: get it? It was on national TV, you know, we
Speaker 1: reached out to one of the directors. I don't know this.
Speaker 1: One of the people put us in touch with one
Speaker 1: of the directors about an hour for the game. He goes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you guys in the open of our
Speaker 1: show tonight, and they put a camera on us running
Speaker 1: out of the tunnel and that open ESPN two's coverage
Speaker 1: and then I because you're around, you know, beautiful women,
Speaker 1: fellow cheer leaders. It wasn't a big crowd, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't like you were going to be embarrassed by that,
Speaker 1: And there. You guys are cheering, and then I realized
Speaker 1: this is in punishment for you guys. Mclovet has eating
Speaker 1: it up, loved it. And I thought, oh, this will
Speaker 1: be great. You guys will be out there, and I realized, no,
Speaker 1: you guys were. You guys were handing it up there.
Speaker 1: It's great. All right, Okay, what are you guys for me?
Speaker 1: All right? Uh? What's your lasting memory of the All
Speaker 1: Star weekend? It's a dunk test controversy the All Star
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Um, I'm not even gonna put Kobe on
Speaker 1: it because a different thing and that was obviously the
Speaker 1: prevalent story. How about all the Chicago stuff? But I've
Speaker 1: got all the Chicago stuff because that was the big thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm confused, Yeah, because there were a lot of people
Speaker 1: common mentioned a lot of people. A lot of people
Speaker 1: have gone through Chicago, Like Kevin Garnutt is not from Chicago.
Speaker 1: I don't believe. I think he was there for a
Speaker 1: year and a half in high school. Was that Farragut Academy?
Speaker 1: He went up to police from South Carolina. He went
Speaker 1: out to play one year Ronnie Field. But all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, they're going, we're trying to shoehorn some people
Speaker 1: in here. You know, Barack Obama is not from Chicago.
Speaker 1: I mean he obviously lived there, but you know, it
Speaker 1: felt like they were, hey, we need some people here
Speaker 1: to mention with Chicago basketball. Ronnie Fields was a legend.
Speaker 1: I get that Mark Aguire, Ben Wilson tragically murdered as
Speaker 1: a high school player. But you know I started to go,
Speaker 1: I think they're running out of names here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: m the club. I got in a big argument on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I was debating Philly basketball verus Chicago basketball versus in
Speaker 1: New York basketball. Did the guy have to be from
Speaker 1: the city to be identified with that city? Beats Chicago
Speaker 1: is claiming Jordan last night obviously, like Philly kind of
Speaker 1: claimed Doctor Jay. Like what's the rule on, like how
Speaker 1: you define a city's basketball. Kevin Garnett is not Chicago. Well,
Speaker 1: he didn't there for a year. It's not the worst,
Speaker 1: he didn't play it all. There is professional career. I
Speaker 1: would say it's people who are born and raised in
Speaker 1: Chicago and became great basketball players elsewhere. Actually, like if
Speaker 1: Mark Aguire is from the West Side Westinghouse, I think
Speaker 1: and Saint Joseph's is Isaiah Thomas. They grew up there
Speaker 1: and played there and then went to Indiana and Detroit.
Speaker 1: But but I look at Isaiah Thomas as a Chicago
Speaker 1: basketball player by definition who played for Indiana. Yeah. Fun,
Speaker 1: I don't think Michael Jordans is a chargolayer. He's a
Speaker 1: Charago ball. He's not up. He has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with Chicago as far as like being raised there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm okay with having Jordan be part of that
Speaker 1: because you do think Chicago basketball, you think Jordan. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the Kevin Garnett one I went, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think so. Did Quinn Buckner get mentioned?
Speaker 1: I've been nice? It was nice. Yeah, Quinn Buckner played
Speaker 1: for a long time, played on the Indiana team. He's
Speaker 1: a Chicago guy. Yes, am I totally crazy to take
Speaker 1: like Phillies what of the great if not like the
Speaker 1: greatest hoops town. Yeah, but you're from Philly, I know,
Speaker 1: but it's like, no, isn't it known as that like
Speaker 1: will all that stuff back? You know as far as
Speaker 1: like a urban road just like that's where like New
Speaker 1: York and who is a great like legendary playground in areas? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chicago is pretty good. Yeah, but I just don't think
Speaker 1: of Chicago as playground legends. I mean, Dwayne Wade, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously from there. I mean you can go back to
Speaker 1: William Gates, who who got hurt, you know, before he
Speaker 1: went to Marquette or maybe yeah, he was at Saint Joseph's.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to be the next Isaiah Toime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know that was hoop dreams. But I don't
Speaker 1: I just don't look at Chicago the way I do
Speaker 1: Philadelphia or New York and New York obviously Choby Legends,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, La too, Yeah, New y Work. I think
Speaker 1: of Kareem and Doctor J and like all that, like
Speaker 1: Rucker stuff, and that's, oh yeah, you actually had who
Speaker 1: legends in New York. You know, they write books about
Speaker 1: those guys, and then you have the Rucker Tournament and
Speaker 1: so all right, I have a bunch of astros polls
Speaker 1: by the way that I can say, let me take
Speaker 1: a break. I gotta get geared up for my The
Speaker 1: Commissioner Baseball did not have a good week. He did
Speaker 1: not his interview with Carl Ravage and members of the
Speaker 1: media he did he did not do well. We'll take
Speaker 1: a break here. It's twenty after the hour, Best and
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend, which is all that you like
Speaker 1: didn't like? Can we get Pat Connaton on the show,
Speaker 1: Fritzie just for one question? Pat, had you pronounced your
Speaker 1: last name? Uh? Twenty one after the hour? This is
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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks, uh Star Dunker, Pauli went and found uh
Speaker 1: Patna or Pat Connaughton, and uh, he is going to
Speaker 1: tell us how maybe Pat doesn't know how to pronounce
Speaker 1: his own name Paul. Now again, I found this clip
Speaker 1: of him. He was doing a little promotional piece when
Speaker 1: he was at Notre Dame. So this is how he's
Speaker 1: been saying it for years. You're Pat Pat conson. Okay,
Speaker 1: kid doesn't know how to say yeah, Pating. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: good on. It's must be a good school. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought they had like high academic standards. Alrighty poll
Speaker 1: options there, McLevin. That's Astros related. Then we'll play some
Speaker 1: sound from the commissioner over the weekend. Okay, is the
Speaker 1: Astros scandal going to make you watch more baseball this season? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or no? Yes? Yes? So is in a perverse way?
Speaker 1: Is this a short term good thing for baseball? Once again,
Speaker 1: when you're involved. If I said to the Astros, hey,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be good for baseball, I don't think
Speaker 1: the Astros would agree with that. If I said to
Speaker 1: the commissioner, hey, this is gonna be good for baseball,
Speaker 1: I don't think the commissioner is going to agree to that. Now,
Speaker 1: the business side of this people are probably gonna go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got more eyeballs, more people come out to boo
Speaker 1: the Astros. I mean, there's so many different things that
Speaker 1: are attached to this. Imagine if you're a pitcher and
Speaker 1: you're facing the Astros and you pitch in saw you
Speaker 1: you might not get a warning. You might get run because, yeah,
Speaker 1: if a pitch gets away from you, are you trying
Speaker 1: to hit an Astro's hitter? And that's going to be
Speaker 1: really unfair to some pictures here. If you're throwing it, hey,
Speaker 1: are you throwing inside? And I think that that's going
Speaker 1: to be that'll be unfair to these pictures. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's just another element attached to this. What else do
Speaker 1: you have? Mclovian? I was going to ask, how do
Speaker 1: you feel now about vacating the twenty seventeen title we
Speaker 1: did at the beginning of the scandal. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: the results, But do you think the results will be
Speaker 1: different today after the apology last week than it was
Speaker 1: when we first asked a question? Really an apology, right,
Speaker 1: I think more people want to vacate the title now
Speaker 1: than two weeks ago. Well, if the commissioner is going
Speaker 1: to tell us that he didn't want to fight the
Speaker 1: players Association. So the reason why he didn't punish these
Speaker 1: players is he didn't want to get tied up in
Speaker 1: litigation here. There's gonna be grievances. You're the commissioner. Do
Speaker 1: what's right for the game, not hey, I didn't want
Speaker 1: to deal with the players Association, or we're gonna have
Speaker 1: this you know CBA that's going to be coming up,
Speaker 1: and I want to play nice with the players Association.
Speaker 1: I just I don't think the commissioner did well this weekend.
Speaker 1: You know, he says, oh, you can, you know, take
Speaker 1: away a piece of metal. I'll play some of this sound.
Speaker 1: Here is the commissioner on why he didn't go after
Speaker 1: the players but went after management in Hindstad. Was there
Speaker 1: any other way to go about this without blanket immunity
Speaker 1: that would allow you to punish certain players. You could
Speaker 1: have made the choice to go with the management people
Speaker 1: and sort of given them immunity and found out how
Speaker 1: the players were involved, whatever dissatisfaction is out there with
Speaker 1: the grant of community to players, I think it would
Speaker 1: have been ten times worse if you'll let the management
Speaker 1: people off and then try to go after the players
Speaker 1: all right, here's the commissioner on why those players do
Speaker 1: not get The one thing that I do take issue
Speaker 1: with the notion that anybody in the Houston organization escaped
Speaker 1: without punishment. And I think if you look at the
Speaker 1: faces of the Houston players as they've been out there
Speaker 1: publicly addressing this issue, they have been hurt by this.
Speaker 1: They will live with questions about what went on in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: And frankly, it's rare that for any offense you have
Speaker 1: a punishment that you will live with for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. So I, you know, hope the questions
Speaker 1: will at least take into account those two thoughts. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: that's horrible. So if I look at Pete Rose's face,
Speaker 1: because he's had to live with this the rest of
Speaker 1: his life, that's that's that's enough punishment. Right now. You
Speaker 1: can say, well, we have rules in place for gambling,
Speaker 1: but not you know, sign stealing. All right, we're just
Speaker 1: talking about the Hall of Fame now. So look at
Speaker 1: the look at the anguish on Pete Roseen's face, Look
Speaker 1: at the disappointment, look at this sadness. So what do
Speaker 1: I factor that in. All you have to do is
Speaker 1: show remorse. If you cry, then you know I don't
Speaker 1: suspend you. Like if I get busted for steroids, then
Speaker 1: I just go and sorry, just cry in front of
Speaker 1: the commissioner. I'll have to live with this the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. Now we're gonna sit you down for
Speaker 1: half a year. That's what happens. Now I can look
Speaker 1: at the Do those Astros look like they're really pained.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I missed something here, but it's not
Speaker 1: like those guys are torn up about this. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: that first cliss Commissioner said, well, if we would have
Speaker 1: given the management and manager's immunity and test bat against
Speaker 1: the players, nobody would have been satisfied with that. He's
Speaker 1: using extremes. You could have punished ball. Let's say every
Speaker 1: player on the Astros that was part of it got
Speaker 1: a ten game suspension right without pay. But we're finding
Speaker 1: that Jose alt Ve apparently didn't need these these signals,
Speaker 1: these drum warnings. They said that hulist Joe Jackson did
Speaker 1: not tank the World Series, but he knew about it,
Speaker 1: and that's why he was barred from the game. He
Speaker 1: was not accused of actually tanking and not he hit
Speaker 1: three seventy five, so that that doesn't wash. But he's
Speaker 1: basically saying, you know, people are probably zero punishment. You
Speaker 1: could if the punishments ten games people say this should
Speaker 1: have been more. That's fine, but zero punishment's tough to
Speaker 1: deal with. If you don't want to punish the individual players,
Speaker 1: then you just take away the trophy, like you physically
Speaker 1: take away the trophy and vacate the title. Then if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna they're gonna live with this game, they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be living with the shame while having a World Series trophy.
Speaker 1: That's all. Take the trophy away. It's symbolic, and you're
Speaker 1: punishing the players because you're taking away that trophy. I
Speaker 1: hate that the fans are being punished here, but you know,
Speaker 1: in their minds, they're still gonna say, hey, we were
Speaker 1: champions there. Granted there's an asterisk by that, but you
Speaker 1: don't want to punish individual players. How we're going to
Speaker 1: punish everybody because of you. Then it feels a little
Speaker 1: bit different there. But don't tell me to look on
Speaker 1: their faces. I'm guessing Josiel two is still cashing a
Speaker 1: pretty big paycheck now. Maybe he doesn't get into the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Who knows, you know where we're going
Speaker 1: to be in fifteen years from now? Does it follow him?
Speaker 1: Probably it should. But now now you've got Carlo's caress
Speaker 1: in Josieale Twove didn't use it, so who did? And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're gonna stop. That's why
Speaker 1: when you had Cody Bellinger saying these guys are cheaters.
Speaker 1: They've been cheating for the last three years. Okay, would
Speaker 1: you stop if you were successful? I don't think so
Speaker 1: unless somebody said to you, guys, they're onto you. And
Speaker 1: I don't rule out the buzzers. I don't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, coincidental that these things happened to
Speaker 1: jose L Twove after hitting that game winning, series winning
Speaker 1: a home run. What about the guys who were on base?
Speaker 1: Did they get benefit from the drums? Like at two?
Speaker 1: He didn't cheat? Okay, what about the guys who were
Speaker 1: on base when he hit the home run? Like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know the commissioner wants this to go away, and
Speaker 1: I think more information is going to come out about this,
Speaker 1: And now you've got the Red Sox stuff that's going
Speaker 1: to come out probably this week. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with that as well, but it feels
Speaker 1: like the commissioner's not going he's going to punish a player.
Speaker 1: Probably not. Yeah, club, Okay, if you had to rank
Speaker 1: the four commissioners right now, turns the popularity not your
Speaker 1: opinion out of Silver its one. Uh. China was not
Speaker 1: his shining moment this year, but yes, he's definitely yes
Speaker 1: boy in popularity or how good of a job they're doing,
Speaker 1: because those are two different things. Popularity okay, like who
Speaker 1: not how Dan Fields? How people feel? Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: guess Adam Silver after All Star weekend is coming off
Speaker 1: pretty well. It's not his fault. They lost a couple
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in China. That's not his fault
Speaker 1: and it doesn't bother me. I just got off this
Speaker 1: morn at Yeah, I'm okay. If they lost a couple
Speaker 1: of hundred million dollars, it did did not affect me
Speaker 1: at all. I would say, Adam Silver. Nobody cares about
Speaker 1: Gary Bettman. Um. People like to dislike Gary Betman, Oh,
Speaker 1: I know that, but they're like, he's an all time
Speaker 1: commissioner and I do kind of like that every couple
Speaker 1: of times a year. It trusts himself out takes painful,
Speaker 1: it's kind to create it no matter what happens in
Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Final and ladies and gentlemen, the commissioner,
Speaker 1: Gary Bettman, I'm proud, boom putting out, we have the
Speaker 1: greatest fans of the hate that. I'm gonna go Adam Silver,
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell, Yes, locked up my buddy, Roger Goodell. And
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go man Fred and then Gary Bettman. Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember Adam Silver came in and his first act
Speaker 1: was the Donald the Sterling. Yeah is it Donald Sterling
Speaker 1: from He took him out quick, and he removed that
Speaker 1: guy from the equation fast, and the players loved him
Speaker 1: from day one. Yeah, that wasn't a hard decision. No,
Speaker 1: but he did got a lot of credit for it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, what are you gonna do now? We're
Speaker 1: gonna keep him in there? It's like you just forced
Speaker 1: him to sell. I mean, they did this to Marge
Speaker 1: Shot in baseball like they'll come down harder on an owner,
Speaker 1: it feels like than they will the players. Yes, John,
Speaker 1: I can't you just put the Manfred A good yell ahead?
Speaker 1: Of Manfred after that, well recency bias. Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, does Manfred definitely survive all this?
Speaker 1: It's it's a bad cue ready right now. And also
Speaker 1: so he wasn't like it's not like he's built the
Speaker 1: game like Adella. That's the only the only way you're
Speaker 1: getting rid of him is if the owners want to
Speaker 1: get rid of him. Do the owners want to get
Speaker 1: rid of him? Probably not? And I just want to
Speaker 1: know how business. All these owners care about is how
Speaker 1: much money am I making? Now? They might look at
Speaker 1: Jim Crane and say, why wasn't he punished? Okay, then
Speaker 1: their commissioner is going to say, well, we did find
Speaker 1: him five million dollars, we did take away a couple
Speaker 1: of draft picks. That wouldn't satisfy me if I really
Speaker 1: cared about it as a fellow owner. You know. See,
Speaker 1: But what if Rob Manfred, he goes after the astroids, right,
Speaker 1: he punishes all the players, they're suspended a bunch of games,
Speaker 1: they find all of this money that vacate all of
Speaker 1: these wins, and then two weeks later to do the
Speaker 1: same thing for the Red Sox, and then a week
Speaker 1: later after that when they invest to get the Yankees.
Speaker 1: They have to do that for the Yankees, and then
Speaker 1: they have to go do it with the Brewers or
Speaker 1: the whoever, and it might factor in. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: rule that out, and I think that's a valid point.
Speaker 1: He's gonna I don't know how what he found out
Speaker 1: with the Red Sox and then do you vacate a
Speaker 1: World Series title with the Red Sox. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he wants to go down that path. And then
Speaker 1: you know, the Yankees had Brian mccannon, Carlos Beltron, but
Speaker 1: apparently they didn't cheat. The Yankees didn't cheat. I mean
Speaker 1: they cheated in other ways, but not that way. But
Speaker 1: if you want to punish the players, you punish the
Speaker 1: players by vacating the world series title, then I don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything. It's on a witch hunt of
Speaker 1: you get ten games, and you get nine games, and
Speaker 1: you get fourteen games, and then we find out al
Speaker 1: Tuove apparently didn't need to cheat. Yeah, ton, so then
Speaker 1: you're taken out. Obviously the batter at Me and Me
Speaker 1: Park and they have the rings are coming back to
Speaker 1: all that, right, Well, you could still give him rings.
Speaker 1: I mean that that is don't even do in Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball, you can still have that. They make it
Speaker 1: warn a lot less. You're not wearing them in public
Speaker 1: as much. Lock a jeweler somewhere. Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: maybe people don't care. I don't know. It feels like
Speaker 1: fellow players care about this, that they want them to
Speaker 1: be punished because they were affected by this. If you're
Speaker 1: a Dodger, a Yankee, you were affected by this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think what bothers and this is so obvious, but
Speaker 1: would bother you as a competitor is let's say you
Speaker 1: really care about winning World Series, not just the money.
Speaker 1: I think these most athletes really care about winning. I
Speaker 1: really do. I know there's mold match that stuff, But
Speaker 1: if you knew that you worked all year to rehab,
Speaker 1: to get in shape to hit your best and the
Speaker 1: whole thing was a setup and all your work didn't
Speaker 1: really matter that much, that would bother you a ton.
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you knew what contest was
Speaker 1: fixed that you're involved in, that that's got to hurt.
Speaker 1: I just I just don't like the way the commissioner
Speaker 1: made it seem like, oh my gosh, these guys have
Speaker 1: suffered and they're going to suffer the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: I don't know that because these guys, you know, you
Speaker 1: compartmentalize this and then you got to move on. You
Speaker 1: gotta play baseball. But last I looked, you got guys
Speaker 1: who are making a really good salary there, and you
Speaker 1: know the excuses. Now that you hear the excuse that
Speaker 1: apparently Jose Altuve had a bad tattoo and Carlos Corea
Speaker 1: was protected, he said that al Tuove didn't want his
Speaker 1: jersey ripped off because he had a bad tattoo on
Speaker 1: his collar boat. I mean, come on, here is Cody
Speaker 1: Bellinger or the Dodgers on the Astro's weak apologies. I
Speaker 1: thought the apologies were or whatever. I thought Jim Cranes
Speaker 1: was weak. I thought Manfred's punishment was weak given him immunity.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are teamed for three years, you know.
Speaker 1: I think what people don't realize is Altove still an
Speaker 1: MVP from Judge in seventeen. Everyone knows they stole the
Speaker 1: rings from us. Alrighty, he didn't even call him commissioner.
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Speaker 1: wanted the game to end on a free throw, but
Speaker 1: you know the first goal of this, the elam ending
Speaker 1: is the name of this came up a student at
Speaker 1: the University of Dayton who's now I think a middle
Speaker 1: school teacher is the one who came up with the
Speaker 1: elam ending where you put you know, you got to
Speaker 1: get first to twenty four points here, so they got
Speaker 1: to one fifty seven and that was your winner. I
Speaker 1: didn't like the shot selection by Lebron as he tried
Speaker 1: to win it when it was one fifty four one
Speaker 1: fifty three and he pulled up from forty five feet.
Speaker 1: It'salt like. I went, no, you'd probably get a better
Speaker 1: shot than that. Lebron, yes, McLean. Maybe he was tired
Speaker 1: of getting his shop block copo a little torch being
Speaker 1: passed on Sunday night. Maybe I liked it. I'd like
Speaker 1: seeing the defense Jhannas blocking Lebron on the layup and
Speaker 1: the fourth was good, and then they called the goaltending
Speaker 1: and reviewed it. Uh. I don't know the rule in
Speaker 1: that when it hits the backboard, it's automatically goaltending. I
Speaker 1: thought right after, if you touch it after it hit
Speaker 1: the back yeah, and it was sort of it was
Speaker 1: bang bang, whether it touched the backboard right and if
Speaker 1: they said it hadn't hit the backboard, oh, they said
Speaker 1: it officially didn't. Okay, it looked like a great block,
Speaker 1: but it is really close, really close. Yeah, that you
Speaker 1: have to see club. It was fun, fun to watch it.
Speaker 1: Jannis didn't get cheated though, he got He got to
Speaker 1: shoot whatever he wanted to. Yeah, there's a play. I
Speaker 1: can't remember what Lebron was upset about. There's a foul call.
Speaker 1: I got charge of something and he was screaming at
Speaker 1: the ref like like it felt like Game six, And
Speaker 1: I was like, if he gets a technical in an
Speaker 1: All Star game, that would be awesome. When's the last
Speaker 1: time somebody got a technical in the All Star Game?
Speaker 1: Are you yelling at a ref? Well, because you might
Speaker 1: get somebody to get a technical because they're just having fun.
Speaker 1: You'd have to probably go back to the seventies when
Speaker 1: when it or maybe eighties when it really mattered winning
Speaker 1: the All Star Game. Yeah, I remember watching. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's called the McDonald's All American Game at
Speaker 1: the time, but Patrick Ewing was a senior in high
Speaker 1: school and he got in a fight in an All
Speaker 1: Star game on national TV. It was one of those
Speaker 1: McDonald's Americans and that was where he kind of earned
Speaker 1: his repperence. Like this is a casual All Star game
Speaker 1: and he would like get into a people. I got
Speaker 1: this from a Bull Frague nineteen eighty three. I think
Speaker 1: the NBA should do what Baseball does with their All
Speaker 1: Star Game. Winning conference gets home court in the finals.
Speaker 1: That will make it a little more competitive, right right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it will. Well, they don't do conferences. I think you'd
Speaker 1: go back to that. I guess, well, no, you have
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference, Western Conference. Well they split him up now,
Speaker 1: right with Team Jannas and Team Lebron. They do that draft. Yeah, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, that was maybe an okayam that didn't
Speaker 1: really affectory. They should just go East West again. I
Speaker 1: like that better, But but you could do that with
Speaker 1: the draft. I'd like when you're drafting. I just think
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting how you build your team. Because Jannis
Speaker 1: build a team. He didn't want James Harden on his team.
Speaker 1: By the way James Harden he was it looked like
Speaker 1: he was lost out there because the All Star Game
Speaker 1: is not built for James Harden. James Harden is the
Speaker 1: most important person on his team during the regular season.
Speaker 1: Then he's kind of like, wait a minute, I gotta pass. Hey,
Speaker 1: I need to go one on one here, Like it
Speaker 1: was just sort of strange to see him, and that's
Speaker 1: probably why Yannis is going on, I what guys are
Speaker 1: going to pass me the ball? James Harden's not gonna
Speaker 1: pass me the ball. But it was fun. I thought
Speaker 1: that the NBA did well and the three point contest
Speaker 1: Buddy healed coming down to the lash shot. That was
Speaker 1: great as well. The fact that we're talking about the
Speaker 1: slam Dunk Contest and the controversy. Yeah, probably good for
Speaker 1: the slam Dunk Contest. Now, don't you want to see
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon saying if I'm in the NBA, I'm on
Speaker 1: the horn with Aaron Gordon now going, Hey, whatever it takes,
Speaker 1: we want you in the slam Dunk Contest next year.
Speaker 1: All right. We promised that we'll do the best judging
Speaker 1: will be better with this, but I want you in.
Speaker 1: The commissioners should call Aaron Gordon and then you say
Speaker 1: to Derek Jones Junior, we want you to be in
Speaker 1: the slam Dunk Contest as well. Let's create something out
Speaker 1: of this. Yeah, But then those guys, if all goes well,
Speaker 1: have to face his Zion next year. Assuming he's healthy,
Speaker 1: he would participate even better, even better. Aaron Gordon's not
Speaker 1: afraid of Zion. Derek Jones Junior, the third, he's not
Speaker 1: afraid of him either. What's a poll question? We're gonna
Speaker 1: go with me gloving. So I actually put up again
Speaker 1: the question that we asked two weeks ago, should m
Speaker 1: WIB vacate the Astros in two seventeen title? Two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: it's sixty three percent. Today it's eighty seven percent. Same
Speaker 1: cheating scandal. Nothing else has come out that they asked
Speaker 1: to come out except of the apologies and Manford. I
Speaker 1: just think the public sentiment is turning even further against
Speaker 1: the Astros this pruise. Yeah, but the end, you know,
Speaker 1: the looks on their faces, They're gonna have to live
Speaker 1: with this the rest of their lives. Oh yeah, you're right. Wait,
Speaker 1: and they sit on their hellos and body you're on
Speaker 1: your boat just shame you name your boat shame fa Yeah, anguish, embarrassment.
Speaker 1: He has what do you just embrace the other way
Speaker 1: and have a new mask cup called Asteriska has got
Speaker 1: a big star on his chest that is running around
Speaker 1: some new creature that AM all right with that too?
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