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Speaker 1: Welcome in the first real edition of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four season Texan All Access Players Edition.

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Speaker 2: I am in d Kalu. He is Mark Vandermer.

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Speaker 1: But the reason we're here, the reason you're listening because

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Speaker 1: the og sitting to my right, Jimmy Ward, safety for

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, joining us for the first official Players

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Speaker 1: Edition show with an actual player.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Brother? Man? Doing great?

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Speaker 3: Each town stand up? There?

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Speaker 2: It is there, it is.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love the h Town. After you

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Speaker 4: stopped a drive to win a game last year, I

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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 1: Man, Gotta keep going. Yeah, there's so many things. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk football because Mark is going to

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Speaker 1: make sure I stick to the script, but we're also

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Speaker 1: gonna get to know you, Jimmy Ward. So many things

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Speaker 1: you know. I remember you first jumped on the scene

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Speaker 1: when I noticed you with the San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers playing so many years there, playing in a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Can you kind of talk about if there are similarities

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Speaker 1: with that Super Bowl team of twenty nineteen versus what

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Speaker 1: you see today here with the Texans.

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Speaker 5: Well, so far we're doing we started to know in

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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen. Other than that, the defense at the same offense.

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Speaker 5: Really is the same scheme, just a few different faces.

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Speaker 4: What about what goes into that though, Jimmy chemistry wise,

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Speaker 4: not just playing well, but I imagine chemistry contributes to

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Speaker 4: playing well. The way the guys get along function with

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Speaker 4: each other, behind the scenes, stuff that the fans don't see.

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Speaker 4: What about all of that?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you definitely got to be close. And I

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Speaker 5: feel like, you know, Houston is a city. There is

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Speaker 5: plenty of stuff to do. So I see some guys

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Speaker 5: on Thursdays or Fridays, they link up with other guys

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Speaker 5: and they take their girlfriends out and wives and they

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Speaker 5: have movie dates together. So that's that's cool to see.

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Speaker 5: And some guys go to concerts together, get a suite,

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Speaker 5: invite the younger guys to come to the concert so

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Speaker 5: or some guys have like the whole position meet and dinners.

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Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's building and on.

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Speaker 5: Top of that depth, a lot of depth, you know,

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Speaker 5: because you know, in this this lead, a lot of

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Speaker 5: guys go down week week to week, and it's very

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Speaker 5: important that the next guy up knows what he's doing

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Speaker 5: and it's not a drop off.

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Speaker 1: You talked about some of the younger guys, you're definitely

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Speaker 1: an OG in this game. Uh the average career three

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Speaker 1: and a half years. You've surpassed that, you know, multiple

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Speaker 1: times over. When I was here in that locker room,

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Speaker 1: they called me grandpa, Like what what do you have

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Speaker 1: a nickname?

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Speaker 2: OG? Or one a little more respectful man.

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Speaker 3: They definitely used og ok.

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Speaker 5: But everything I do is it is funny because if I,

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Speaker 5: you know, say a name of a song or a movie.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I ain't never heard that movie? Movie?

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Speaker 2: Oh that song? What?

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Speaker 3: I was like?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 5: But it's more, it's some more guys. It's like year nine,

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Speaker 5: year ten, and listen to some of the stuff. But

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Speaker 5: obviously I'm a big movie guy. So a lot of

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Speaker 5: people don't have time to watch movies, but that's what

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Speaker 5: I do on my spare time.

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Speaker 4: So how old do we get with these movies, Jimmy?

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Speaker 4: I mean, how far back are we going? Because listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm that guy too, but in other generations, So you

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Speaker 4: tell me.

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Speaker 3: It just depends, man, It depends on the movie.

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Speaker 5: I like horror movies, so I watched a lot of

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Speaker 5: classic horror movies, like the old school. It like, I like,

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Speaker 5: I'm a big Stephen King. Uh I guess geek and

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Speaker 5: Steven Spills spills Bird. I love him a lot. And

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Speaker 5: of course it's just some other movies like Ghost.

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Speaker 3: Class. Yeah, yeah, it's a class.

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Speaker 4: It's not a horror movie really, but it's good.

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Speaker 5: It's just like some of these, some of these remakes.

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Speaker 5: It's really just like remakes off for older movies.

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Speaker 3: Just like the song.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes i'd be a song, come on, like okay, the

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Speaker 5: this the like I want to say, the Ghetto Boys

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Speaker 5: are from Houston.

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Speaker 3: So I used to listen to that.

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Speaker 5: My dad used to play that, and then I heard

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Speaker 5: it not too long ago. Okay this okay, they playing

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Speaker 5: hear Kodak Black. I was like, oh remix, So it's.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about. That one bothers

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Speaker 1: me and look, this is how I feel old. He's

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Speaker 1: an og in the locker room and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: his dad played the Gettle Boys. That's my favorite group.

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Speaker 1: So your dad are kind of like this.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talked about horror movies and you like

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Speaker 1: the classics. What about Nightmare on Elm Street? Have you

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Speaker 1: checked that one out?

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Speaker 5: With Freddy Freddy Krueger the New Ones. Yeah, I like,

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Speaker 5: that's one of my favorite songles. Okay, so yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: true to Yeah, but the New Remaker it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. To me, that's one of those movies

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Speaker 1: you just don't remake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta leave it alone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Exercist.

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Speaker 3: See, that's see. I don't. I still don't. I don't

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Speaker 3: like the new ones that came out.

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Speaker 5: I'm still stuck on the old one when the ladies

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Speaker 5: spent their head around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the good old day around.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I like about that.

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Speaker 1: My kids, I try to get them, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: they're my son nineteen, the other one sixteen. I try

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Speaker 1: to get them to watch movies that I liked, and

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Speaker 1: they can't get past the whole if it's not four

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Speaker 1: k oh, you know, like they just can't get passive.

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Speaker 1: It's not a certain clarity. And I'm like, man, you're

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Speaker 1: missing some great movies just because of this little silly

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Speaker 1: can't get past the clarity of it. So I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the fact that you can still go watch some of

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Speaker 4: Well, that defense was seeing things clearly against the Chicago Bears. Jimmy,

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Speaker 4: what about that effort on that side of the ball

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Speaker 4: had to hold them low, and you kept them low

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Speaker 5: Oh just you know, one of the keys was eliminate explosives,

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Speaker 5: and I feel like we kind of failed to do

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Speaker 5: that the first week. And I feel like the offense

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Speaker 5: held is up. But I just you know, being around

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Speaker 5: football for so long, especially in the NFL, is any

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Speaker 5: given Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Saturday.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you never know.

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Speaker 5: You know, you want to play you know, three great

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Speaker 5: phrases football, that's offense, defenses, special scenes, but sometimes you

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Speaker 5: know the game might not swing that way.

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Speaker 3: So and we just so happened to.

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Speaker 5: You know, we played great on defense this week, and

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Speaker 5: you know we helped, we helped the other two phases.

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Speaker 3: Well, really special teams did it. Everybody did their thing.

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Speaker 5: Offense put up more points than their offense, so that

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Speaker 5: was the main thing. As long as we scored the

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Speaker 5: most points. I don't care how we win, as long

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Speaker 5: as we win exactly.

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Speaker 4: But what about getting after the quarterback the way the

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Speaker 4: guys up front did that, and then on the back

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Speaker 4: end able to capitalize a couple of picks in the secondary.

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Speaker 5: Very nice, oh man, that that defensive front and just

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Speaker 5: uh that second line too, was they was coming like

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Speaker 5: as we say, Jalen Petree like he was hitting me.

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Speaker 5: He's a linebacker. So man, it was it was crazy.

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Speaker 5: It was it was fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: You know. Well I couldn't watch because I was running

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Speaker 5: But it's like the quarterback didn't have too much time,

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Speaker 5: and I just feel like that's important, especially to do

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Speaker 5: first two games last last year. Like, you know, defensive

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Speaker 5: We just held out his skuys and like, man, he

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Speaker 5: a guy open. Okay, that's cool, but you got to

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Speaker 5: figure it out on the run. We're not gonna just

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Speaker 5: show it to you.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: We saw the tenacity and for me, I just really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed watching the defensive side of the ball and the

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Speaker 1: culture that y'all are setting. But kind of talk to

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Speaker 1: the listeners through the mindset, like when you're watching film

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Speaker 1: don't give away any tricks obviously, but when you're watching film,

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Speaker 1: like what are you looking for? Well, as a safety

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Speaker 1: who's been in this league for such a long time,

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Speaker 1: how do you prepare for these games?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Well, first, first of all, before I see the

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Speaker 5: just go back and I watched the whole game, especially

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Speaker 5: it's early. I really dislike like early in the season.

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Speaker 5: I like it, but I don't just because it's not

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Speaker 5: that much film. And you know, when you when some

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Speaker 5: of these teams, when you when you win, and coaches

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Speaker 5: they had different offensive coordinator, and if you're losing, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's really it was like the places coaches from different

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Speaker 3: It's just crazy. It's a different playbook.

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Speaker 5: So he's like, Okay, now I gotta go back and

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Speaker 5: I gotta watch this this team and it's different guys,

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Speaker 5: so it is very confusing. But I go and I

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Speaker 5: watch first and second down. After I watched the whole game,

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Speaker 5: a lot of time Second and team may be screen draw? Okay,

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Speaker 5: what is the running back manneralism? When what he's doing it?

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Speaker 5: Does he hop before he gets to draw or the screen?

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Speaker 5: Does he hop outside? You know, because these things that

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Speaker 5: see them at his mechanics and he does that, and

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Speaker 5: I could just trigger. So it's like and then there's

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Speaker 5: so much stuff that goes in the like cause I

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Speaker 5: does he have moves off the line, what does he

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Speaker 5: do with press? What does he do with catch technique?

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Speaker 5: So it's just so much stuff, and I just gotta

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Speaker 5: watch it, watch it, watch into something stick And then

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Speaker 5: I don't you know, I've learned over the years. You know,

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Speaker 5: You know, you you. I wish I can remember all

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Speaker 5: this stuff, but it's just once you get in the game,

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Speaker 4: So when did you become so obsessed with observing all

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Speaker 5: You got some tips, you got some clues to help

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Speaker 5: No, that was huge, and that's we got to keep

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Speaker 5: Like what it meant to you? It doesn't even have

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Speaker 5: I never forget cop game winning pick ran it down

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, tell me about it. The Falcons.

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Speaker 4: So you go to the combine, you didn't know you

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Speaker 5: They expect that.

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Speaker 5: I probably could have grew an inch, I have no

440
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Speaker 5: but I was like around like five ten five eleven.

441
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's surprised.

442
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Speaker 1: That's a surprise because and you know, you played early

443
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 1: in Northern Illinois, so you were ready for college ball.

444
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: So for them, but these are the stories I love

445
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: because it just goes to show there's no perfect way

446
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: to evaluate high school kids or even college kids going

447
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Speaker 1: for you to only have two offers and then play

448
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 1: early and long in college, then become a first round pick,

449
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 1: and now you're what year eleven in the NFL, and

450
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Speaker 1: I was looking at that I did something petty. I

451
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Speaker 1: want to see if you do it. Only two safeties

452
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 1: went ahead of you every year, did you in the draft?

453
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Speaker 1: In the NFL draft, or.

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Speaker 5: If you count Dion Buchan and that'll be three O

455
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 5: the linebacker. Okay, okay eventually, so it sounds like you

456
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Speaker 5: might do the petty thing I used to do every year.

457
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 5: Do you say I'm still in the league.

458
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Speaker 2: He's not. He's not in mark them off like what

459
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: I was thinking of, They're not in the league anymore.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was paying attention to him. I definitely was

461
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Speaker 3: playing attention.

462
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 5: Then after a while you start, you know, you start

463
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Speaker 5: build a relationship with those guys.

464
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Speaker 3: Because everybody coming from the lead together.

465
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Speaker 5: So you know, I start talking to him and so

466
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Speaker 5: we'll talk smack back to back like I used to

467
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 5: talk to High House Like ha, I like, it's no

468
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 5: way I could have jumped you because you went to

469
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 5: Alabama for once, I said, for two is because he

470
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Speaker 5: was a junior.

471
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Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm a senior. I'm an n I U.

472
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Speaker 5: So you was came out of his junior So it's

473
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Speaker 5: a wrap on that. You know, guy's gonna look at

474
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 5: some of these colleges. I mean, Scout's gonna look at

475
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 5: SEC Alabama because Alabama was the Heads, I want to say,

476
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 5: one of the the one of the the best schools

477
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 5: around that time.

478
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Speaker 3: What still is?

479
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Speaker 5: Uh so?

480
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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to think of my guy name.

481
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Speaker 2: I looked it up yesterday. It was two. It was

482
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Speaker 2: and I went second because he went to the Jets.

483
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Speaker 3: Went to the Jets. Yeah, he was a hard hitter

484
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 3: Haven Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

485
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Speaker 5: Kevin Frory. I I saw him not too long ago

486
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Speaker 5: in Georgia. I had went to like a camp for dinar,

487
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 5: the QUEZ dinar. He went first round to corner thinking,

488
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 5: you know, what's so even crazy? I remember Deon Sanders

489
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 5: talking smack on the TV saying like, yeah, this is

490
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Speaker 5: not going to be a very deep dB class, and

491
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Speaker 5: I was like okay. And next thing, you know, about

492
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Speaker 5: eight dbs get drafted first round. It's like, yeah, and

493
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 5: play well a lot of guys, what are you talking about?

494
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 5: So yeah, Jason Verrett, Darnall dark quiz Robie, I'm missing

495
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 5: one more from the Browns. Oh he was the first

496
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 5: corner off the board for the Browns went to Okla,

497
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Speaker 5: Homeless Gibert, Justin Gilbert, Justin Gilbert.

498
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny Manziel, he and Manziel.

499
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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember.

501
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Speaker 3: That's the first time I met Aaron Donald.

502
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Speaker 5: That's crazy, Like I never knew who Aaron Donald was

503
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Speaker 5: until we got to Senior VOW.

504
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Speaker 3: I didn't really, I didn't know.

505
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Speaker 4: So what were your impressions? Because John Harris, who we

506
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 4: worked with also and I know you know him, he

507
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 4: talks about seeing Aaron Donald at the Senior Bowl and

508
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Speaker 4: it was pretty impressive.

509
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Speaker 3: Well I can watch this one on one.

510
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're doing your own.

511
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Speaker 5: But you know, I remember when when they was giving

512
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 5: away the awards and it was like the Best dB

513
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 5: and I ended up winning the Best dB and they

514
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 5: said the best We're all the MVP of the whole thing,

515
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 5: like Aaron Donald.

516
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: And I was like, hey, I said, I need to

517
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: pay attention.

518
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 5: I went to this highlight, was like, I wonder what

519
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 5: in the in the Senior Bowl, Like what if from

520
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 5: what I've seen, I'm I don't see people like twice

521
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 5: his size doing what he's doing. But I guess his

522
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 5: size and they one't used to, you know, smaller d

523
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 5: tackles like that. But I'm like, the dude is a

524
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 5: natural football player, Like he's athletic and it's like football,

525
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 5: it's just easy for him.

526
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: And well you see what happened? Who did who did?

527
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Speaker 4: He do a foot race with recently retired in street

528
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Speaker 4: clothes and.

529
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Speaker 5: He was just running Philadelphia old Philadelphia running back.

530
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Donald was just hauling. My gosh, crazy stuff.

531
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, don't worry.

532
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Speaker 1: You're not going to raise either one of us during

533
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Speaker 1: this podcast, but we are going to take a quick

534
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Speaker 1: time out Texas All Access Players Edition, Stay tuned, Welcome in,

535
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Speaker 1: Welcome back players this year. I'm ind Kalu. He is

536
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: Mark VanderMeer, Jimmy Ward taking time during his off day

537
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: to come hang out with us, and we truly appreciate that.

538
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: So two weeks in, two victories, you're coming in on

539
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: on the off day, but it's also a recovery day,

540
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: so kind of like talk us through what you do

541
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: to recover.

542
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: I like to sleep in.

543
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 5: I sleep in a little bit and then I normally

544
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: get am I normally get a massage, start my day off.

545
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 5: Then I come up to the stadium getting a cold

546
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 5: to hot to contrash Uh. I do my grasping on Wednesdays,

547
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 5: so but some my grasp grasping grasping on Wednesday it's

548
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 5: like with the tools and stuff when they kind of

549
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 5: scrape your muscles, kind of move the faster around you

550
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 5: yourself or someone no, no, someone someone do it for

551
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 5: me and then they get their hands in me.

552
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Speaker 3: Uh try to. I don't know. I feel like everybody

553
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: got every good body. Guy. I always say the same thing. Hey,

554
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: you know, I gotta feel around. I gotta gotta get

555
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: my hands and your nose, Like, what's really going on

556
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: in your muscles?

557
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Speaker 4: Does that hurt? Sometimes?

558
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Speaker 3: Oh?

559
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: Everything?

560
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: Everything hurts, every recovering, everything does it.

561
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Speaker 4: It doesn't feel massage is not a nice massage. That's

562
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 4: a painful massage.

563
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Speaker 3: I want a painful massage.

564
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: It works for me.

565
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Speaker 3: Some guys don't like.

566
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Speaker 5: Some guys say they just want something like it's like

567
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 5: a soft massage, and it works for them. But I

568
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 5: think my muscles are too tight, Like you really got

569
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 5: to get in there, you know, in order to loosen

570
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 5: up some of some of those tensions, some of the muscles.

571
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: But yeah, I feel like everything hurts like, then I

572
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 5: get the needles. I get an acupuncture, a dry needle.

573
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Speaker 5: That's it's it feels like it's a sign of relief,

574
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 5: like when you hit the right spot. But sometimes it's

575
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 5: you know, some certain spots is hard to bear. Doesn't

576
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Speaker 5: feel good.

577
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Speaker 3: I tell you that.

578
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Speaker 4: So the drying needle basically is acupuncture, right, It's just

579
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 4: not the practice of it from the Far East or whatever.

580
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: Right.

581
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I supposedly someone told me when you got

582
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 5: got your acopunch your license, that you had to do

583
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 5: more schooling. So I got to have that you know

584
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 5: that that ticket so certificate.

585
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 4: But that stuff works, the dry needle, you stick it

586
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 4: in the painful spot and it helps.

587
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: Yes, it helps me. You know, some guy.

588
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Speaker 5: I always talk to some guys. I always talk to

589
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 5: younger guys like, man, you get some needles. Man, my

590
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 5: body good right now? So everybody scared, But you know

591
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 5: anything that can help me. I try what's a little

592
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 5: circular su Is it a suction comp Oh? Yeah, the cup?

593
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 5: And they just say yeah, cup. And I don't know

594
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: like the professional name for it, but cupping. I actually

595
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 5: get cupping too when I get massages too.

596
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Speaker 2: So usually people do that with the massage, Okay, suck

597
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: up your skin or I think so.

598
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Speaker 5: I think it's creating blood pressure, like just creating like

599
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 5: more I guess red blood cells to go to a

600
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 5: certain area to I guess succeed the healing process and

601
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 5: the more blood you're getting certain muscles. Excuse I think.

602
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 5: I think from what from what I learned over the years.

603
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 5: It's crazy. It's like been learning anatomy one on one

604
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 5: and I didn't even go to school, just learning about

605
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: the body, you know, being around doctors and nurses so much,

606
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 5: and they keep talking and something just sticks and like okay,

607
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 5: well I know exactly what's wrong. Then you kind of

608
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,239
Speaker 5: something happened to you in practicing the game. You kind

609
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 5: of diagnose yourself before the nurses something. Come over to Yeah, Manna,

610
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: you know it's something you aquad or my radius, like

611
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 5: I would have never knew was the inside of my

612
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 5: forearm if I ain't never break my farm, I would

613
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 5: never knew the name of the bone like radius. Now

614
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 5: I'm telling them the professional names and stuff.

615
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: Doctor Ward, doctor Ward, Now, Jimmy, were there people in

616
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: San Francisco players that you were with who influenced you

617
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: in this way? And would mentor you you were the

618
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: young guy. Hey, you got to do this, this and

619
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: this in order to play for a longer time.

620
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure some guy's probably mentioned it to me,

621
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 5: But I feel like mainly somebody that I talked to

622
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 5: a lot was Richard Sherman when he came in. Because

623
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: it's thing, you know, things start to get shaked when

624
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 5: you lose, and things start to get shaky in the building,

625
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 5: so you know, everybody's you know, it's everybody's on edge.

626
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 5: And I feel like when Sherman came in there because

627
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 5: he came from a winning program and he was you know,

628
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 5: he earned, he got, he earned his money. He got

629
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 5: a big contract at sant Fran paid him some good

630
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 5: money to come over there. So he was just chilling

631
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 5: and he talked a lot. Yeah, you know, he talked

632
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 5: a lot. He was the voice of the locker room.

633
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: And you know, Sherman was, you know, he'll he'll do

634
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 5: a lot. He always what he's slippers too. He bought

635
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 5: everybody's slippers, like I never seen him have shoes on.

636
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 5: Probably got a hundred pair of shoes. But just you know,

637
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 5: I guess when you running for that many years, he

638
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 5: needs some comfortable, like you don't like, don't nobody care

639
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: about some some nice Joe Jordon's or nice nikes and

640
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 5: this and that. Man, we're looking for something that's that's comfortable.

641
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: We don't care. What's the name of this shoot? Right?

642
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, he told me, just showed me a lot

643
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 5: of different stuff that he did to just take care

644
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 5: of his body because he was coming off that Achilles,

645
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 5: So you had to do. You gotta do a lot

646
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: stem cells, a lot of stuff.

647
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: What was Demico like when he shows up and starts

648
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: coaching with the team. When did you first start to

649
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: notice Tabika Ryan's with the forty nine ers?

650
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 5: Well, I noticed similarly when he first came in. I

651
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 5: don't I don't know if he gave him a head

652
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 5: coaching job right off. I mean, not a head coach job,

653
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: but a position coaching.

654
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: Because he was quality controlled.

655
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he was.

656
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I noticed when he first came he didn't

657
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 5: really say much, but I knew who he was because

658
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: you know, I was raising Alabama, so it's like, yeah, okay,

659
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: Alabama's I got somebody from Alabama.

660
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: In the building.

661
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: Then that next year he had he was splitting it

662
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 5: up with uh, I want to say, Johnny uh the

663
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 5: eye line back coaches playing Johnny Holland's Yeah, and then

664
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 5: Johnny Holland ended up starting fighting, so he ended up

665
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 5: beating it.

666
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: So a shout out to Johnny Uh.

667
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 5: So he had to take a step back, and that's

668
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: when they gave Miko like the official position. He had

669
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: to take over for Johnny Holland. And I remember Drake

670
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: green Law, yeah, because Fred was like year three, year

671
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 5: two now, but year three, I want to say, and

672
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 5: Drake Greenlaw and the z Shaer was was his young pups.

673
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: I want to say it was rookie.

674
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: Oh man.

675
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 5: He used to used to just hear stories how Miko

676
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 5: who used to be riding them? Oh man, they used

677
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: to hate to come down. But he had them playing

678
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 5: good though. That's the thing.

679
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: He had them boys playing real physical.

680
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 5: And then next thing, you know, you know, we kept winning,

681
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 5: just like I was telling you about like early in

682
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 5: the season where you trying to, you know, see what

683
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 5: plays the coach is going to play. And next thing

684
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 5: you know, we win and Salid get ahead coaching job,

685
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 5: and you know, everybody waiting like okay, who you know,

686
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 5: you know, it was talks like they gonna give it

687
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 5: to Miko. It's like le this early, give it the Mico,

688
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: And the next thing you know, they gave it to me.

689
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 5: I shout out the Mico and then got the d

690
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: c DC job and uh and then everybody got to

691
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: see Mico coaching style. Yeah, so he didn't do good. Yeah,

692
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 5: so he's Miko coming in the defensive meeting room when

693
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: we all meet together, like he'll smile, he'll talk, but

694
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 5: sometimes that smile it's not a happy smile.

695
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: Here. Yeah, we know we can do better.

696
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: Have a little laugh.

697
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he ain't happy we can't.

698
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 5: But with these the clips right here, get the he's

699
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 5: the clips right here, the laser and point that we

700
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 5: just can't. We just just can't show up like like

701
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 5: what we're doing here. So it's it's it's just cool

702
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: to see him get a head coaching job too. So

703
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 5: next thing you know, we kept winning. Then he get

704
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 5: the head coaching job in Houston, Texas. And I'm pretty

705
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 5: sure I told this story over and over again that

706
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 5: we had to talk like because I didn't I didn't

707
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 5: like keep getting moved around. I was like, man, I

708
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 5: understand they want to move me here in this spot,

709
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 5: in this spot, but I still want to play safety.

710
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 5: It's like I wanted. I guess it's hard to get comfortable.

711
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 5: But I was like, I wish I could get comfortable

712
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 5: a little bit, but in this league. But I guess

713
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 5: it's hard to not when you have a certain skill set.

714
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: You got to use your skill set to the best

715
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 5: of the ability to help the team.

716
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: So you're talking about playing nickel versus safety.

717
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 5: I wanted to play both. When I was in I

718
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: was like, man, let me just play both. Let me

719
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 5: move around. Yeah, Coach Kyle, yeah he I don't know.

720
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: He he wants your one spot ventually, not really.

721
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: I just it's a lot of stuff that could have

722
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: happened with him and John. But you it's just you know,

723
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 5: it's it was this time. Let's just say it was

724
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 5: just time for me to move around from from out

725
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 5: that organization. And I told me, I remember, I told me.

726
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I said, no, I'm not gonna

727
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 5: come back here. I was like, I'm gonna go somewhere else.

728
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 5: I was like, I want to I don't want to

729
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: play safety. I said, you can put me other positions too.

730
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 5: But I didn't tell him that, but I already knew

731
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 5: what Miko was gonna do regardless of Okay, if I

732
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: put out there, like once you put a film out

733
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 5: there and you play it for a certain position, good

734
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: like his coach is gonna use like you're not. I

735
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: might need you to move you around. I gotta trick

736
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator. So now when you see our defense,

737
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 5: you don't know what's going on.

738
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: You got e.

739
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 5: Murray used to play corner and play some nickel. You

740
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 5: got him moving around. You don't know what position is

741
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 5: gonna be. You got Jalen Petree was a formal linebacker

742
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 5: at Baylor. Then he played nickel and didn't play safety

743
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: till he got to the league, So he moved around.

744
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 5: You got the young boy ka Kaylyn bull Bullocks and

745
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 5: you got him. He played some I don't know if

746
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: he played corner, but I know he played nickel and

747
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 5: safety in college. Now you can move him around. So

748
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 5: and then of course you got the corners and the

749
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 5: obviously they stand in the corner. Uh, but you just

750
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: got a lot of a lot of DVU weapons that

751
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 5: you can move around and confuse the quarterbacks. And then

752
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: you know cost certain plays like you you never know

753
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 5: who's blitzing, who's playing back in the post. If it

754
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 5: court is is it quarters? If we hold the the guy?

755
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: So so it's similar to Baltimore. Someone would when I'll

756
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 5: be paying attention to Baltimore defense. I was like, oh, like,

757
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 5: it's like sinko, what's going on? Right? They got a

758
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: lot of safeties on, you know, on the field right now.

759
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 5: But it works and they play good defense.

760
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: Right with people around, get them in good positions. Uh,

761
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 4: what do we not know or the fans not understand

762
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: about the Miko and you hinted on this, the intensity,

763
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 4: the attention to detail. Obviously he wants a lot of passion.

764
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 4: People see the smile. He's so wonderful, positive and everything.

765
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: He's always positive. But what about that intense side that

766
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: we don't get to see all the time. It's in

767
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 4: the meeting rooms, it's on the practice field.

768
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 5: He's a linebacker in nature, like, he's a very physical person,

769
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 5: even passionate person. Even if you know he smiles at

770
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 5: you and you know and laugh, don't get it twisted.

771
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: He's still in the weight room every day.

772
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 5: But he's just he's built this team on physicality offense

773
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 5: and defense. If it's not physical right now, each year

774
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 5: as it goes on the team gonna get more physical,

775
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 5: and he built it too with the right guys. You know,

776
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 5: I think him being around football slone, being around and

777
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 5: being at Alabama and being in Sant fran now in Houston, Houston, Philly.

778
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 5: So he just learned that certain guys can make up,

779
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 5: you know, a good team. He's been around a lot

780
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 5: of good teams, so he tried to get the right

781
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 5: guys that play football the right way.

782
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: You talk about the smile and not the happy smile.

783
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: Reminds me when we played together, and I've told this

784
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: story before, but we were playing against.

785
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars and Maurice Jones drew.

786
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: He had a great run against us where he left

787
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: about three of our defenders on the floor, on the ground,

788
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: and he popped up and he said one, two, three

789
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: blanks that I left on the ground. And in the huddle,

790
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: Dimigo had that huge smile and he was all, don't worry,

791
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: I got this one. Very next play he lit him up.

792
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: But in the timing, the way he approached it, that's

793
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: I mean. I always knew Dimgo was special from day one,

794
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: but for that to happen the way it happened, and

795
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: he came into the huddle smiling, but he wasn't happy.

796
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: And then from the blow up m j D, when

797
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: you were talking about his smile even when he's not happy,

798
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: that's exactly what popped into my head.

799
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 5: He do the same thing, smile. Yeah, all right, it

800
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 5: didn't shake his head. Yes, okay, all right, but nah, yeah,

801
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 5: he still has it.

802
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: He has it.

803
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 5: He got that fire that still burns inside of him.

804
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 5: He's just doing it, doing it with coaching now.

805
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: And he's rubbing off and I'm seeing it with y'all.

806
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: When I see y'all make those plays, I can tell

807
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: that y'all are, you know, appreciative and listening. Not just listening,

808
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: but he's bringing in guys like you mentioned, because I mean,

809
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: you're you're a true vet. So it's not like he's

810
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: molding you. But he knew what he had in you.

811
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: And that's why, obviously, you know, he made the effort

812
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: to bring you here. Quick time out, We're going to

813
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: effort for another segment here, Texans All Access Players Edition.

814
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: Welcome In, Welcome back. One more segment to go, Texans

815
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: All Access Players Edition.

816
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: I am in d Kalu. He is Mark.

817
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: VanderMeer, Our main man, Jimmy Ward has been kind enough

818
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: to hang out with us during his off day, his

819
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: recovery day. And really, you know, obviously I've seen you

820
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: play appreciate what you do here. But this is why

821
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I like doing this podcast. You really get to get

822
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: in the guy's head and to hear the way you

823
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: approach the game. Like for you you're talking about like

824
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: it's just normal, But I really appreciate as a football

825
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: guy just hearing how you you know, watch film, study film.

826
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: You've been doing it since Northern Illinois. Has your preparation

827
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: changed over the years, you know, I know you've always

828
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: been big on film, but you know, do you do

829
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: things differently now that you weren't doing in year three

830
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: or four?

831
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

832
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 5: Yes, that's just taking care of my body, like I

833
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 5: didn't know how to take care of my body, like

834
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 5: when I was in college, his brain Chicken. I probably

835
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 5: touched the cold tub a couple of times if I

836
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 5: really need it, you know, getting the cold up. And

837
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: is that I get in there sitting there a couple

838
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 5: of minutes. Sh Man, I don't think I was sitting

839
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: in the cold tub for ten minutes. You probably could

840
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 5: get like three or four minutes out of it, but

841
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: not ten minutes. I don't think I barely went in

842
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 5: the training room. I had to been seriously messed up

843
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: for me to be in the training room, like as

844
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 5: in like fracture bone or something. I think I only

845
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: missed one game if that, in college. But that's that's

846
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 5: just about everybody. It's not too many people that miss

847
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 5: a lot of games in college.

848
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 4: How different do you feel on a Monday morning.

849
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 5: Now versus eight years ago? That's the difference too. Now

850
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: I actually listen to my body, Okay. I feel like

851
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 5: the older you get, you really listen to your body

852
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 5: because like, let's just say, if you go to sleep

853
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 5: and you wake up and your nose stuff and you

854
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 5: sneeze two three times, and then you just you feel

855
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 5: a little tired. It must be getting sick, right, you

856
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 5: know when you're young, you don't really pay too late. Yeah,

857
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 5: it's it's too late. And then now you know you

858
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 5: got to get the cold symptoms. You're sick, and you

859
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: got to go through that for two weeks. But as

860
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 5: you get older, you you're trying to catch it, like,

861
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 5: oh man, let me get some let me take some

862
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 5: olive leaf, astrakt pills or take drink a lot of

863
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 5: orange juice vitamin see uh and let me let me

864
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 5: go on to get in the sun and just drink

865
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 5: a gallon of water and get a light.

866
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: So meanwhile, when you're young, stress fractured your foot. You

867
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: didn't even know, you don't know, you don't care. You

868
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: still like, man, man, I gotta take time out to

869
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: do this. Like man, I'm trying to relax, I'm trying

870
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: to chill to the move's trying to talk on the

871
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: So it's like this is just a big difference, Like

872
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: you just slow down. What about eating? How has that changed?

873
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 4: And especially I don't call it recreational eating, but yeah,

874
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: it's the off season.

875
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: I'm eating.

876
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: How differently do you eat now versus.

877
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: Chain a lot? Like I actually got my uh my

878
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: blood at this clinic.

879
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 5: They end up taking my blood and went through the

880
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 5: whole food allergy, oh, vitamin allergies, you know, just to

881
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 5: see what I'm defishent and ef fishing in. So and

882
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 5: that was a big help, Like I realized that that

883
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: trout is severe for me, Like that creates a lot

884
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 5: of information for me. So and I never knew that

885
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 5: And I didn't eat trout on the regular, but every

886
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 5: now and then, you know they have trouting cafeteria and

887
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: so it's fishing.

888
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: Let me guess some man wake up. Kind of had

889
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: to blow my nose.

890
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 5: And obviously, you know potato chips, candy unprocessedful.

891
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 3: You know that's bad for you.

892
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 5: That creates information information, But that was just helpful for

893
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: me because like I'm trying to I'm not I'm trying

894
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 5: to reduce the amount of information in my body throughout

895
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: the season because you already get banged up enough and

896
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 5: you know you're trying to push all that information out,

897
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 5: you know, throughout the week. That's you know, to be

898
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 5: able to move and play like you want to each

899
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 5: each each game day. And the deficiencies just seeing like okay,

900
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 5: what do I need more of in my lacking bottomin

901
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 5: D or my lacking magnesium you know that can help

902
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 5: with like cramping in the game, Like you don't got

903
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: enough magnesium in your body, then okay, I might need

904
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: to take you know, these supplements and take these pills

905
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 5: to help, you know, boost that back up for when

906
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 5: I get in the game. I don't have to, like

907
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 5: I don't even feel like I'm cramping towards the second you.

908
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: Know, this is why the guys and a lot of

909
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: older guys don't want to hear this, But when I

910
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: watch the game, I do feel like y'all's generation. Y'all

911
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: are quicker, faster, bigger, or stronger, but y'all have this

912
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: scientific approach to taking care of your body. Where back

913
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: in the early two thousand, like a healthy day for

914
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: me was I'm not going to smoke a black a

915
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: mile today. You know, I ain't gonna hit my black

916
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: amout today. And you over here you're not eating trout

917
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: because inflammation. I'm I'm thinking trout is healthy. So I

918
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: think that's why, because you know, when I watch you

919
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: play and I get a little envious. You know, what

920
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: are your early thirties and you look like you got

921
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: another five, six, seven years left in you, where most

922
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: of us that was a tail end. But hearing how

923
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: you take care of your body, you prepare, I think

924
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: that's why we're seeing longer careers. And speaking of that,

925
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: has the game changed, like what differences have you seen

926
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: with the players early.

927
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: On to you know where you're at now? Well besides the.

928
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: Fashion, oh yeah, definite, a lot of fashion.

929
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 5: Just first of all, if you if you get a

930
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 5: hard hit, it's probably gonna be it's probably gonna be

931
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 5: a flag.

932
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: Jalen Pintree.

933
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 5: I was looking at a hit that he did, and

934
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 5: it was a smooth He made me put my hands up,

935
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: like if you can go that plans like, oh that

936
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 5: was a good tight end.

937
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm like, next thing, you know, it's a flag.

938
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 3: I'm like what I was like, But they picked it up. Yeah,

939
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: they picked it up.

940
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 5: Because I'm looking at it, I'm like, oh, he didn't

941
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 5: hit him nowhere him and to him and it was

942
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: just a hard hit. So y'all first reaction if it's

943
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 5: too hard of a hit, you throw a flash.

944
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Horrible.

945
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: The difference is the NFL definitely got softwer.

946
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: You know, I'm so glad you said that.

947
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: And as a former like, I'm a fan of football,

948
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: and even when I was young, I was always a

949
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: fan of the defensive side of the ball. And I'm

950
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: not one of those guys who don't want to see

951
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: heads get knocked off. I mean, you know, I don't

952
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: want to see guys get hurt. But at the same time,

953
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: especially your position, I don't see how y'all are supposed

954
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: to play the game like I would almost take it

955
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: personal if you are aiming at the receiver's chest the

956
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: way you're supposed to and he ducks down and you

957
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: have incidental helmet to helmet the fact that you get

958
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: fine money, you get a penalty, and in college you

959
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: might get kicked out of the game. I just I

960
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: don't even understand how defensive backs are supposed to play.

961
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 5: And another thing that's that's crazy and mind blowing to me,

962
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 5: like we can get cracked back, Like, man, I don't

963
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: got cracked back from the side, like the wide receivers

964
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: a weight when you were not looking like we're defenseless,

965
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 5: like we running down and somebody hit us on the

966
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 5: side in the ref and you don't call the flag, right,

967
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: But when these wide receivers come and they're not looking

968
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 5: at somebody hit them, you throwing the flag.

969
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, who is you? Like you protecting on offensive players?

970
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 5: But why because they dance in the end zone, you know,

971
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 5: the fans come to see them dance in the end

972
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 5: zone and do the Tessie roll and tsy pop, Like

973
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: come on, man, like what about us, Like you know,

974
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 5: we need somebody to guard these people, like but obviously

975
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 5: they just they just you know, NFL want to see,

976
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 5: you know, some people scoring points. But it's it gets

977
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 5: me like, at least help us, Like I just don't

978
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 5: like the crackbacks. And then on top of that, like

979
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 5: saying we can't cut a three hundred pounds offensive line

980
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 5: and coming full speed ready to turn us into oil stains.

981
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: On the field.

982
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: We gotta take the charge, and we gotta move around.

983
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: We can't move around, we move around and run it back.

984
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 5: Just gonna move around us too.

985
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: Touchdown.

986
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 5: So we got to take a charge from a three

987
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: hundred pounds human being. That's that's running down. I ain't

988
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 5: gonna give him four seven but now that it might

989
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: be some of them running like four sevens, but four

990
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 5: eight fast enough.

991
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: All right, We'll ended on a happy note because that

992
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: really bothers me. Kendrick Lamar halftime showed the Super Bowl?

993
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: Who would have been your choice?

994
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: Who was the other people that I don't know?

995
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't look I'm old school. I would have said

996
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: Scarface or Webby or Boosy.

997
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 5: So I was raising the South. Yeah, I'm rocking with

998
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 5: the South. So I'm just saying I'm rocking with the South.

999
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 5: But I heard Lil Wayne supposed to have been doing.

1000
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 5: I thought that would have been cool. That would have

1001
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 5: been cool, Like it's in New Orleans.

1002
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Lol.

1003
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 4: Wayne covers a lot of age groups.

1004
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he covers a lot and he's from out there,

1005
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 5: so that's been pretty cool. It's like you got Lil

1006
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 5: Wayne has When haslu Wayne ever did a halftime show

1007
00:45:59,480 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 5: the NFL?

1008
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been big.

1009
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: Maybe for the Saints, but no one knew about it

1010
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 4: outside of New Orleans.

1011
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: Look at Mark showing this hip hop now that he's

1012
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: a big plays a rock guy there. Who would you

1013
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: have picked me?

1014
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 4: Guns and Roses not I'm just kidding, Guns and Roses.

1015
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 3: He likes it. There we go.

1016
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: It was that November rain. Yeah, that was great.

1017
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: They wouldn't do that one.

1018
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 5: I had to pick a rock band, but I probably

1019
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 5: would have went with I'm a big Room five guy.

1020
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 3: I like mo Room five. Okay.

1021
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 4: When the Weekend did the COVID Super Bowl, I mean

1022
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: that was a good idea because the Weekend he covers everything,

1023
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: you know, that way everybody knows his songs, you know,

1024
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 4: everybody hears them all over the place and they're catchy.

1025
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not a big Weekend fan. Okay, I

1026
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: like the ones when they bring a lot of people out.

1027
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: But you know what, you're not gonna be worried about

1028
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: it because you're gonna be in the locker room, so

1029
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: you're not going to care who's singing and visit this

1030
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, all right, that's gonna do it

1031
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: for us today. Big shout out to Jimmy Ward for

1032
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,279
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