1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,520 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson 3 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: with you, and these are the stories that you may 4 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: have missed that we talked about this week. First up, 5 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: an ongoing battle to designate the Muslim Brotherhood of terrorist 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: organization and it's time for you to step up and 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: call your Congressman and your Senator will explain how important 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: this is. 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: And just a moment. Also, AI executive order. 10 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: Signed by the President is going to excel AI business 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: in America. Why is it so important that we beat 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: China on this? And it deals with national security. We'll 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: explain that as well. And also, in a very odd move, 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Tucker Carlson decides to 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: go to Katar, stuck up to the country and buy 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: a house. It's the Weekend Review and it starts right now. 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: All right, Finally, Senator, I love doing the show because 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: we get to bring attention and actually get our listeners involved. 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: The next subject we're going to be talking about is 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: one where I would say to everyone listening, this is 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: when you say, I'm going to take a moment, I'm 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: going to send the I'm going to call my center. 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to call my congressman, this is something you've 24 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: been working on. We've been talking about a lot, and 25 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: it deals with the Muslim Brotherhood bill, and I want 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: you to give this update, Becau. It's important and a 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: lot of people that listen Berg they say, hey, what 28 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: can I do? 29 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: How can my voice be heard? 30 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: This is a perfect example of where your phone call 31 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: can make a big difference. 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 33 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 4: So, Look, the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. It 34 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 4: is one of the most dangerous terrorist organizations on the planet. 35 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: I have been fighting for literally ten years for the 36 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: United States to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: In the first Trump administration, I came incredibly close. I 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: almost got the Trump administration to do it. Here's what 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: defeated me. So there's a global umbrella group, the Muslim Brotherhood, 40 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: and there are a bunch of affiliates that are in 41 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: different countries, and there were Deep States State Department operatives 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: who argued against what I was trying to do in 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 4: Trump want And the argument they use that prevailed is 44 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 4: they said, well, look, not every single affiliate of the 45 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood can we prove as a terrorist organization? Some 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: of them clearly are, but others of them, there's not 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: clear and irrefutable evidence that they're engaged in terrorism. That's 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: what defeated my effort. 49 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: Trump won. 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: So here's what I've done Trump too, I said, the 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: previous efforts were top down. They were designate the Global 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood and then designate all their affiliates. They argued, 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: some of the affiliates may not be terrorists. I don't 54 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: buy that, but it was an argument, and it was 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: an argument that was successful in Trump won. So in 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 4: Trump too, I inverted the entire approach. I said, all right, 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: let's rather than being top down, let's start bottom up. 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: And so I filed legislation that directed the administration designate 59 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 4: every Muslim Brotherhood affiliate that there is clear and unequivocal 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: evidence their terrorist organization. So, for example, Hamas Hamas is 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine, so there is no dispute 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: Hamas is a terrorist organization. 63 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: So that is an easy. 64 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: Example of a Muslim Brotherhood affiliate that is indisputably terrorist. 65 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: My legislation says designate the affiliates, and then it says 66 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 4: designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood for providing money, for providing 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: material assistance to the affiliates that are indisputably terrorist organizations. 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: So I filed that legislation. I've been pressing the Trump administration. 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: President Trump stepped in and he announced that he was 70 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: in designating the Muslim Brotherhood's terrorist organization, not the global 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: but the individual affiliates. And basically, the Trumpet administration is 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: followed following the approach in my legislation. Now, I want 73 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: you to listen. This week, a State Department official from 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: the Trump administration was testifying before the Senate. I questioned 75 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: him on this, give a listen. Do you believe the 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood poses a threat to the national security. 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 3: Of the United States. Yes. 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 4: Now let's pivot away from the President's executive order to 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: what's happening here in Congress. As I said earlier, and 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: as you observed, I've been pushing to designate the Muslim 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: Brotherhood for more than a decade. 82 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: Now. 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: I've introduced legislation to do so in all but one 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 4: Congress since I was elected. This Congress, I introduced a 85 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 4: version of my bill, the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act, 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: that uses the same bottoms up approach that is in 87 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: President Trump's executive order. It has bipartisan support in both chambers. 88 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: Last week, frustratingly, the House version of my bill was 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 4: advanced but terminally weakened by the House Foreign Affairs Committee. 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: We took out the designation part of the Muslim Brotherhood 91 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 4: Terrorist Designation Act. The Senate should do better, and we 92 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: should move the full bill on our side. Some public 93 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: reports and statements have claimed that House members, including House Republicans, 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: did not believe that Congress should have a role in 95 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: crafting sanctions which are to be implemented by the executive 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: I find that argument to be specious, and I know 97 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 4: the vast majority of this committee does as well, Mister Lerherfel, 98 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: I and my colleagues have implicit and explicit expectations that 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: executive officials will work with and, when appropriate, even defer 100 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 4: to this Committee on issues of foreign policy, including sanctions 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: and including the designation of terrorist groups. What is your 102 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: view of the role that Congress plays on these issues, 103 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: including on initiatives like mine to designate the Muslim Brotherhood 104 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 4: as a terrorist group. 105 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: Senator Cruz, thank you for your question. I fully respect 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 5: Congress's Article one authority and making laws, including with respect 107 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 5: to foreign terror organization designations or other types of designations. 108 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: Whatever legislation has passed, I will faithfully execute if I 109 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 5: am confirmed. 110 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: Thank you all right. 111 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: Final question, one element of this debate that continues to 112 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: surprise me, and I don't think the American people, even 113 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: many people here in Congress, I don't think they appreciate 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: the degree to which are allies support acknowledging and designating 115 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. As you know, Jordan, Egypt, 116 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Kenya, they have all already 117 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. These are 118 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: our allies and partners in the Middle East and Africa, 119 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: and there's a pernicious narrative that doing the same thing 120 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: they've done designating the Muslim Brotherhood will somehow alienate these partners. 121 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 4: Describe how you would work with our allies to counter 122 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: the Brotherhood's malign activities. 123 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 5: Senator Cruz, thank you for that question. I can say 124 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: that in a previous capacity in the Bureau of counter Terrorism, 125 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 5: I led our efforts to designate the IRGC, get designations 126 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 5: of other countries to diet designate the IRGC, as well 127 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: as Hbela and Hamas particularly in the Western Hemisphere. That approach, 128 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 5: it's pretty pretty intense diplomacy. It requires a lot of legwork. 129 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 5: I've talked with our chief submission the Western Hemisphere across 130 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 5: to Australia with respect to that, and you saw the 131 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: news there about four or five months ago what Australia 132 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 5: did with respect to the IRGC. I would template that 133 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 5: really and get at the Muslim Brotherhood using that diplomatic approach. 134 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 5: That word that is working, and there's more work to 135 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 5: be done. Let me be clear with the IRGC and 136 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: his bullah and hamas, but I would template that in 137 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 5: our efforts with the Muslim Brotherhood. 138 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: Terrific, very help, thank thank you, Thank. 139 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: You, sir. 140 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: You're here, your question there, and I want you to 141 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: to explain why this is so important. 142 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 6: Center. 143 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: We need to be clear eyed. We need to be 144 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: clear eyed about the threats to America. The Muslim Brotherhood 145 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: is a radical jihadist global terror network. They are funding 146 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: jahatas in countries across the globe and we are seeing 147 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: we started this podcast by talking about eighteen thousand terrorists 148 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: coming to this country. Enter Joe Biden. These are the 149 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood is deliberately promoting people who are seeking to 150 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 4: engage in acts of terror, they're seeking to wage jihad, 151 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 4: and we need to be serious and clear eyed. And 152 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: I got to say, there's some Republicans that are nervous 153 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 4: about this, but Donald Trump is not, and his designation 154 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: was historic, and I'm continuing to work hand in hand 155 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: with him to protect American to protect the American people 156 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: against the threat of the Muslim brotherhood, against the threat 157 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 4: of jahadis. 158 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 159 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 160 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. You 161 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: may have heard about AI. It's pretty impressive what it 162 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: can do, but there also has to be framework around 163 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: it and making sure that it is a way for 164 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: us to use the tools and also keep people safe. 165 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: There's a lot of concern with AI also when it 166 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: comes to who's going to be leading in the industry. 167 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Is it going to be the United States or China? 168 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: And what does AI look like if they're the leader, 169 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: and how can they manipulate everything through AI centater. This 170 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: is something that we've talked about on this show a lot. 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: I think we've led on this topic. It's an important 172 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: one because it is a race I describe the other 173 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: day on TV as this is no different than the 174 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: race of the Moon with Russia, the race to the 175 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: moon with AI and China. 176 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: Whoever gets there first is probably going to win and 177 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: own it. 178 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: And this is a really really important subject right now. 179 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: And it's also when I think that deals with national security. 180 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: So the single most important an economic battle we have 181 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 4: in this country right now is the race Fraei. This 182 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 4: is going to transform the world. We may not like it, 183 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: but it's going to happen. And the binary choice is 184 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: does America win or does China win. Look, whoever wins 185 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 4: the race fraei, the values of that country will define 186 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: the characteristics of AI. If you want AI to be 187 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 4: defined by the values of China, if you want it 188 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 4: to be surveillance and control and propaganda and the communist 189 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: government controlling every thing you think, then you want China 190 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: to win. If you want it to be free speech 191 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: and free enterprise and individual rights, then you want America 192 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 4: to win. And this is you think back to the 193 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: nineteen nineties. The battle for the Internet was a massive battle. 194 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 4: America won the battle for the Internet. We prevailed this 195 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 4: battle of AI is more consequential than the battle for 196 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: the Internet. Today, President Trump signed an executive order seeking 197 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: to ensure a consistent national standard of rules for AI 198 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: to stop Gavin Newsom and Hockel and JB. Presker and 199 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: on all these left wing democrats in the States from 200 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: putting contradictory, burdensome, inconsistent rules on AI that ends up 201 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 4: crippling American AI and letting China win. I want you 202 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: to listen to Presidents he talked about this today. 203 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much. 204 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 6: We have a big signing right now, and we have 205 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 6: a tremendous industry. 206 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: Where we're leading by a lot. 207 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 6: It's the AI artificial intelligence. I always thought it should 208 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 6: be SI Supreme Intelligence, but I guess somewhere along the 209 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 6: line they decided under word artificial and that's okay with me. 210 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 6: That's up to them. 211 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: It's a massive industry. 212 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 6: We're leading China, We're leading everybody by a tremendous amount. 213 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 6: Where the electricity is being built by them in every 214 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 6: plant they're building the electricity. We're getting them rapid approvals, 215 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 6: but they're spending trillions of dollars and they can't. Basically, 216 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 6: this is a couple of other things that are less important. 217 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 6: But one of the things it has is you have 218 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 6: to have a central source of approval. When they need 219 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 6: approvals of things, they have to come to one source. 220 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 6: They can't go to California, New York and various other 221 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 6: places like Illinois with Pritzker, who's you know, a totally 222 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 6: unreasonable person, and they have to have you know, they're 223 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 6: putting all this money in. It's a big part of 224 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 6: the economy and there's only going to be I think 225 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 6: one winner here. I don't know if anybody agrees with that. 226 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 6: I think most people agree, but there's only going to 227 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 6: be one winner here, and that's probably going to be 228 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,239 Speaker 6: the US or China, and right now we're winning. 229 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: By a lot. 230 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 6: China has a central source of approval. I don't think 231 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 6: they have any approval. They's go and built, but people 232 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 6: want to be in the United States and they want 233 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 6: to do it here we have the big investment coming. 234 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 6: But if they had to get fifty different approvals from 235 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 6: fifty different states, you could forget it because it's not 236 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 6: possible to do especially if you have some hostile All 237 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 6: you need is one hostile actor and you wouldn't be 238 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 6: able to do it. So it doesn't make sense. I 239 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 6: didn't have to be briefed in this. By the way, 240 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 6: this is real easy business. I mean, this is simple. 241 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 6: So we're very happy with that. But this is about 242 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 6: something a little bit different. We want to have one 243 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 6: central source of approval, and we have I think great 244 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 6: Republican support. I think we probably have Democrats support too, 245 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 6: because it's common sense. I mean, you can't go to 246 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 6: every time you make a change, and it could be 247 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 6: a very reasonable change, you still won't get it approved 248 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 6: if you have to go to fifty states. So this 249 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 6: centralizes it, and it's something which the people behind me, 250 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 6: the very distinguished people all but Tim Cook just left 251 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 6: of Apple and spoke to all of the big companies, 252 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 6: great companies, and they won't be able to do this. 253 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 6: This will not be successful unless they have one source 254 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 6: of approval or disapproval. Frightenly, you could have disapproval too, 255 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 6: but it's got to be one source. They can't go 256 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 6: to fifty different sources. 257 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: This seems to be a core point of what the 258 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: President and what you were trying to accomplish, which is 259 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: that one source, because otherwise it would be impossible to 260 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: grow AI and to deal with it the way that 261 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: we need to deal with it. If you didn't have 262 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: this kind of one standard across the board. 263 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: Look, AI is transformational. Think back to the nineteen nineties. 264 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: The nineteen nineties, Bill Clinton was president and the Internet. 265 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: It was the dawn of the Internet, and we made 266 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: a choice. America made a choice to do a light 267 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 4: touch regulatory approach to the Internet, and we ended up 268 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: winning that race. America dominates tech, We dominate the Internet. 269 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: It produced hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of jobs 270 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: in the United States. That was incredibly consequential. AI is 271 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: the same point. And Ben, I'll say, Look, I understand 272 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: people across the country. They're nervous about AI. They're afraid. 273 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: They don't want AI to come take their jobs. They 274 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: don't want AI to render them irrelevant. They don't like 275 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 4: the technology. And I get that that's not a crazy 276 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: thing to think. But look my view, I'm not a 277 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: lut eyed. I don't think the fact that you're nervous 278 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 4: about technology can make it go away. As much as 279 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: you might be worried. Listen, I'll readily admit if there 280 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 4: were a button in front of me right now to 281 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 4: destroy every cell phone in the world, I'd push that 282 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: button because I think cell phones are a portal. You know, 283 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: I'm a dad. I've got two teenage girls. Cell phones 284 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: are a portal to every evil. 285 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: Force in the world at our kids. 286 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: But we don't live in that world. AI is here, 287 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: it is coming. We have a binary choice. Does America 288 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: win it? Or does China win it. I want you 289 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: to listen to what I had to say with President 290 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: Trump in the Oval today. 291 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: Give a listen. 292 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 6: Ted Cruz has been a very strong advocate of this 293 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 6: is common sense. I mean, I think it's nothing one 294 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 6: of the common sense. 295 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: Please diad listen. 296 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: This is the single most important economic question in the 297 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 4: country and in the world. 298 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: Who wins the race for AI. 299 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 4: You look back to the nineteen nineties, there was a 300 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: similar inflection point with the beginning of the Internet, the 301 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: dawn of the Internet, and Bill Clinton was president at 302 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: the time. He signed an executive order just like you're 303 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: doing that put into law a light touch regulatory approach 304 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: to the Internet, and the result was incredible economic growth 305 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: in jobs in the United States. Is the same time, 306 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: the European Union took a very heavy handed regulatory approach. 307 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: Here's an amazing statistic, mister president. 308 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety three, the US economies in Europe's economy 309 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: were virtually identical in size. Today, America's economy is more 310 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: than fifty percent larger than Europe's, and the two drivers 311 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 4: of that are tech and the shale revolution. It transformed 312 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: this country, and AI is the same thing. It's a race, 313 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 4: and if China wins the race, whoever wins, the values 314 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 4: of that country will affect all of AI. We don't 315 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: want China's values of surveillance and centralized control by the communist. 316 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: Government governing AI. 317 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 4: We want American values of free speech, of individual liberty, 318 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 4: of respecting the individual. So this executive order, I believe 319 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: is a tremendously important Thank you for your leadership, you. 320 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 2: Know, Senator, Just to underscore how important this is and 321 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: what you just described there, even Donald Trump on true 322 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 2: Social said The Wall Street Journal has another ridiculous story 323 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: today that China's dominating us in the world on the 324 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: production of electricity having to do with AI. 325 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: They're wrong. 326 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: As usual, every AI plant being built in the United 327 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: States is building its own electric generating facilities. The approvals 328 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: are being given carefully but very quickly a matter of weeks. 329 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 2: Any excess electricity being produced is going to go to 330 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: our electric grid, which is being strengthened and expanded for 331 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: the purpose for other purposes than AI. Like this is 332 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: not just moving forward and protecting us and going to 333 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: this race with China. Who's going to be in charge 334 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: of it, who's going to be the best at it? 335 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: But this is also building American infrastructure and a lot 336 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: of American jobs are actually going to be created out 337 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: of this as well. 338 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 7: Well. 339 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: This is a common sense principle. We should be the 340 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: party of jobs. 341 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: AI. 342 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 4: It's going to produce disruption, it's part of the reason 343 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 4: people are scared of it, but it's also going to 344 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: create millions of jobs. And the simple question we want 345 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: to ask is who do we want to win? Do 346 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: we want a world where China wins ai AI is coming. 347 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 4: You may not like it, you may be scared about it, 348 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: you may not know, And I get it's easy to say. Listen, 349 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: I wish nuclear weapons didn't exist. If there were a 350 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: button to make every nuclear weapon disappear, I'd push that button. 351 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 4: But they do exist, and if they exist, I want 352 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 4: to make sure America has the best and is able 353 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: to deter someone attacking us. AI is similar. And I 354 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 4: got to say President Trump is being bold, he's being visionary. 355 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: He understands that if we win or lose this, this 356 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 4: is the economic battle of the twenty first century. And 357 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: I was really proud I stood side by side with 358 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: Donald Trump saying America is going to win the race 359 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: for AI. We're going to beat China. That is massively 360 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 4: important for jobs in America. 361 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: As before, if you want to hear the rest of 362 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 363 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 364 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 365 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: story number three of the week you may have missed, Senator. 366 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about influence, foreign influence, and there 367 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: is a lot of people that are like, I don't 368 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: understand why it's a big deal that a bunch of 369 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: Americans that are conservative in influencers are running to countries 370 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: like Qatar, taking trips over there that are being paid 371 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: for by them, and putting up what I would describe 372 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: as propaganda on social media on behalf of Katar. But 373 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: people that see they're like, what's the big deal. Tucker 374 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: Carlson shows up, speaks to this Doha forum. Why is 375 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: that a big deal? Why should I care? I want 376 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: you to explain before we get to Tucker, what Qatar 377 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: has been doing to influence America, so people understand who 378 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: we're dealing with and why you might want to ask 379 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: the question why would you be going there? 380 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: I forget Tucker's name. 381 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 2: There are a lot of concerns I know that have 382 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: been taking these types of trips recently. They're trying to 383 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: buy influence in the conservative movement, and it's frustrating because 384 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: I don't think people understand the threat that Qatar is 385 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: to this country at all. 386 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: Look, Qatar is not our friend. 387 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 4: Qatar is spending hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying the 388 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 4: United States government, spending millions of dollars funding bots. You 389 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: look at the anti Semitic content, you look at the 390 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: anti American content that is online, Qatar is funding it. 391 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 4: By the way, you look at the anti Semitic protests 392 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 4: on college campuses, Qatar is funding that that. They are 393 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 4: profoundly hostile to American I will tell you there was 394 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 4: a conference this past week in Doha, which is in Qatar. 395 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: You had a number of Americans go there. The most 396 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: prominent of which was Tucker Carlson. And I want to 397 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 4: tell you. Look, I sent a tweet so Tucker Carlson 398 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 4: was going to interview the Prime Minister of Qatar, and listen. 399 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 4: I have been very vocal that I think Tucker Carlson 400 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 4: has become the most dangerous demagogue in America. I think 401 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 4: he's doing enormous damage. But I try to give him 402 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,479 Speaker 4: an opportunity. So here's what I tweeted before his interview. 403 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: I said the following. 404 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: For years, Tucker Carlson has been accused of being on 405 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 4: the payroll of Qatar. 406 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: For years, he has denied it. 407 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: This is now a beautiful opportunity for him to try 408 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: to clear his name. Tomorrow, Tucker is interviewing the Prime 409 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: Minister of Qatar in Doha. Tucker knows how to ask 410 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 4: tough questions. Here are a few he should ask. Number One, 411 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: Al Jazeera is a mouthpiece for anti Americanism, anti Semitism, 412 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 4: and Jahadis terrorism. Why does Cutter pour countless tens of 413 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: millions into supporting it? Number two, why does Cutter back 414 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood, a group designated as the terrorist organization 415 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 4: by several of Cutter's neighbors, and which President Trump is 416 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: also moving to designate Number three. Hamas planned the October 417 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: seventh atrocities while Cutter hosted hamas leadership. This included the 418 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 4: kidnapping and murder of dozens of Americans. Even the Biden 419 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: administration wanted Cutter to expel Hamas after hostage talks collapsed. 420 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: Why did Cutter keep hosting hamas leadership. 421 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 2: Let's just pause it for one second as you were 422 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 2: tweeting this out, because I don't think we'll understand. And 423 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: they were actively hosting these terrorists. 424 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: The leaders of a mosque live in Cutter. 425 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 4: They live in opulent mansions, They live like billionaires while 426 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 4: they are murdering not just Israelis, but Americans, while they 427 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: are raping not just Israelis but Americans, and Cutter is 428 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: embracing them. And they're like like movie stars living and Cutter, 429 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: by the way, Number four, speaking of which, on October seventh, 430 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, Cutter issued a statement saying Israel alone 431 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 4: was responsible for the violence. Then in September of twenty 432 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 4: twenty four, Cutters of Meir said Israel was responsible for 433 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 4: the war expanding to Lebanon. 434 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: Is that still Cutter's position. 435 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 4: Number five, Cutter is the only Gulf country that still 436 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: maintains male guardianship and travel restrictions for women. When do 437 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 4: you intend to join the civilized world? So if you 438 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: actually believe women have rights, that ain't the case? 439 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 3: And Cutters numbers. 440 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: Do you mean by that real fast? 441 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: So that people understand the context of it, of what 442 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: you because it made just sound like okay, what does 443 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: that even mean for women? What is life like there? 444 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: Explain how that's so far back in the Stone Ages? 445 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 4: Look, the rights of women are severely livered limited and Cutter. 446 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: Males are treated as the decision makers. They have control 447 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: over their wives, they have control over their daughters, and 448 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 4: the rights of women are are severely diminished and Cutter, 449 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 4: So that's an obvious question to ask of like why 450 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: don't you believe women have any rights? 451 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: Number six? 452 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 4: How much is Cutter paying to fund anti Semitic protests 453 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 4: on US college campuses? Understand, we saw protests all over America. 454 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 4: Cutter was spending millions of dollars to fund that, and 455 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: simple question why Number seven, how much is Cutter paying 456 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: to spy on US government officials? 457 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: And why? And to be clear, there were multiple news stories. 458 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: Cutter hired spies to spy on me because they viewed 459 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 4: me as the US government official most skeptical and antagonistic 460 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: of Cutters. 461 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: So they're actively spying on me. 462 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: And number eight, finally, how much exactly are you paying 463 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 4: conservative influencers to come to this conference and participate? Now, 464 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: if Tucker had asked those questions, it would have been 465 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: a big deal, like he could actually he had the 466 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: Prime minister every one of those questions they don't have 467 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: a good answer to. But he didn't ask those questions. 468 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 4: He didn't ask any difficult questions. He did the same 469 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 4: thing he did when he interviewed Putin, which is he 470 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: embraced him and kissed his rear end. He did the 471 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: same thing when he interviewed the president of Iran, which 472 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: is he embraced him and kissed his rear end. Tucker 473 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 4: has a pattern. If you're an enemy of America who 474 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 4: wants to murder Americans, he will not ask you a 475 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: single hostile question. I want you to listen to this exchange. 476 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 4: This is a snippet of the back and forth between 477 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 4: Tucker and the Prime Minister of Cutter. 478 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 8: So that last question, I've been personally not to make 479 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 8: it about me, but I have been criticized as being 480 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 8: a tool of Katar, and I just want to say 481 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 8: what you already know, which is I've never taken anything 482 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 8: from your country and don't plan to. I am, however, tomorrow, 483 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 8: buying a place in Qatar, both because I am paying 484 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 8: a HI check in oh Ya, and I'm doing that 485 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 8: because I like the city. I think it's beautiful, but 486 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 8: also to make a statement that I'm an American and 487 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 8: a freeman and I'll be wherever I want to be, which. 488 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: I think is important. 489 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 8: But that does kind of leave us in a place 490 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 8: where I have not taken any money from Qatar. I 491 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 8: have instead given money to Qatar, and I wonder if 492 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 8: you feel that that means I've bought you and you 493 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 8: will now spew my propaganda. 494 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 7: Thank you just asking me what if you want me 495 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 7: to do for you, I will do it. But look, Tucker, Unfortunately, 496 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 7: as I told you, that, there are a lot of 497 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 7: players putting a lot of efforts to sabotage the relationship 498 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 7: between Cutter and the United States and to try to 499 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 7: dominize anyone who will come to this country. Our efforts 500 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 7: when we are lobbying or. 501 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: Doing. 502 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 7: You know, our outreach in the United States is to 503 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 7: make sure that this relationship is safeguarded and the relationship 504 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 7: for US is mutually beneficial. We are not getting it 505 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 7: from the United States, it's we are. Instead, we are 506 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 7: buying from the United States. We are partnering with them. 507 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 7: We are investing in the United States, United States investing 508 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 7: and cutter. And this relationship has been always a two 509 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 7: ways relationship. And we pay all these amounts for lobbying 510 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 7: only to protect and to safeguard this relationship. If we 511 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 7: are we are not like being attacked and under a 512 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 7: lot of like this information campaign that's been unfortunately funded 513 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 7: by other players who doesn't want to see a US 514 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 7: ratter relationship flourish. We wouldn't, We would spend this money 515 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 7: for better things, you know, to do with with the relationship. 516 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you look at that question center and it's 517 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: one of those that just you scratch your head because 518 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: there's just part of this You're like, wait, what did 519 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: what did I just witness? 520 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: What did I just watch? There? Like how is this real? 521 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: And the idea of like I'm buying a place have 522 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: never taken anything. I just like it here it shows 523 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm a free man. Didn't ask any questions, not a 524 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: single tough question of a man that is allowing terrorists 525 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: to sit in his country and to orchestrate more tears 526 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: texts that have killed Americans. 527 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: So understand this government that is hosting Hamas, that is 528 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 4: celebrating Hamas, that is funding anti American propaganda and anti 529 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 4: Israel propaganda and anti Semitic propaganda. He's the ourrime minister, 530 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: says to Tucker, Ask me whatever you want, We will 531 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: do anything you want. He also says to Tucker, we 532 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 4: are spending vast amounts and lobbying. 533 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: Understand. 534 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: Cutter spends hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying the United 535 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: States government, the United States Congress. By the way, Tucker 536 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: is obsessed with APAC because he's decided that Jews are 537 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: the source. 538 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: Of all evil in the world. 539 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: And Cutter pays two to three times as much as 540 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: APAC does in lobbying. 541 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: Do you know who APAC is. 542 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: APACK are Americans that it is not the government of Israel. 543 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 4: APAK are Americans who want American Israel to have a 544 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 4: close relationship. And so American citizens, many of whom happen 545 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 4: to be Jewish. Although not all of them, who support 546 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: a lot of actually Christian evangelicals also who support a 547 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: strong relationship between the United States and Israel. They do 548 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 4: write checks, but they write checks that that are on 549 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: order of magnitude anywhere from a third to a half 550 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: what Cutter, the foreign government writes they spend hundreds of 551 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 4: millions of dollars lobbying our government. And I got to say, Tucker, 552 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: Tucker claims to be America first, he is. 553 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: Literally buying a home in Cutter. 554 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: Cutter who is actively funding anti American propaganda, anti Semitic propaganda. 555 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 4: And by the way, Tucker says, oh, I've never taken 556 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 4: a penny from you. By the way, you know, I 557 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 4: don't know what kind of sweetheart real estate deal he's getting. 558 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 4: But who the heck what American? Let me ask you, Ben, 559 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: you know a lot of people. Do you know any 560 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: other American who wants to buy a home and Cutter. 561 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: No, I've In fact, I've known a lot of international people. 562 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: I've never heard of anybody going, yeah, I'm head, never 563 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: to cut her to go buy a home. Never, not like, 564 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: not one time, no one. And I know people outside 565 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: the US, they've never said that. 566 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: Look, I and I think there's a reason for it, 567 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: which is that I don't know why. I've had conversations 568 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 4: about why Tucker has decided by the way, Tucker is 569 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: actively attacking President Trump's foreign policy. He is furious that 570 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 4: President Trump decided to bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities, and 571 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 4: even more mad that that bombing was incredibly successful. It 572 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: was the single most important foreign policy and national security 573 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: decision that President Trump has made in the second term. 574 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: And Tucker thinking start War three, which I'm pretty sure 575 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: that's what they said was going to happen. 576 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: Isn't that right? It was going to start World War three? 577 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: So let's be clear, it's not they Tucker predicted if 578 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: Trump bombed Uran. Yes, he said it would cause World 579 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 4: War three, number one. He said thousands of Americans would die, 580 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 4: number two. And he said America would lose, Iran would 581 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 4: beat us in. 582 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: World War three. 583 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 4: Now, every one of those predictions was laughably absurdly wrong. 584 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 4: And yet Tucker is now buying a home and cut 585 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: her and saying, hey, you crazy theocratic Islamist America, hating radicals, 586 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: you're my people. That is really, really, really dangerous. 587 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the questions that we just asked there, I really 588 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: hope that all of you will share those on social media, 589 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: Share the episode on social media, share the video we 590 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: put up on Facebook. 591 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: We put it up on. 592 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: And Ben, let me ask you a question, Let me 593 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: ask a questions. Why do you think Tucker didn't ask 594 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 4: a single one. 595 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: Of the questions I suggested? 596 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 4: I sent eight, and they were not ridiculous questions. 597 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: They were actually questioned. 598 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 4: If you were in fact America first, and you're interviewing 599 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: the leader of this country that that that that is 600 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: funding things that are profoundly anti American, anybody would ask 601 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: if you and I were interviewing them, we would. 602 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: Ask those questions. Why do you think Tucker didn't. 603 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: I think it's the same reason why he gave a 604 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: powderpuff interview with Vladimir Putin. I think it's the same 605 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: reason why he was sitting down with the head of Iran. 606 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: It is because when he goes there, he knows the 607 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: role he's playing, which is a propagandist for those countries. 608 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 4: I wish that were not the case, but I can't 609 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 4: argue against that. He does not ask ask a single 610 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 4: question defending America. Instead, he just embraces leaders that that 611 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 4: that that are doing enormous damage to Americans, and and 612 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: and and and that, by the way, is I think 613 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: significantly undermining President Trump as. 614 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: Well as always thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 615 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 616 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: with my podcast, and you can listen to my podcast 617 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 618 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 619 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, 620 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.