1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Least. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: on you home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Bill Lolly here with Matt Williamson. Matt, 4 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: It's a lovely Friday here in Pittsburgh. Lots of stuff 5 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: going on around the NFL, including, of course, and we've 6 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: talked about all week long, the Ben Roethlisberger situation. Uh, 7 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: there's some things happening, uh, you know, with with some 8 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks elsewhere. We were just talking about this, we were 9 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: talking about this one off the air. Everybody's talking about 10 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson's agent says Russell doesn't want to 11 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: be traded, but if he were to be traded, it 12 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: would be to one of them. Yeah, here are the 13 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: fear of the four teams he would want to go to. 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Russell Wilson will not be traded. I 15 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: will go on record right now guaranteeing this. Why because 16 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: he wants to go. Russell Wilson's dead cap hit for 17 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks this year if they traded him or 18 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: released him, would be fifty eight million dollars in a 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: season In which the salary cap is going down. We're 20 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: guessing it's gonna be around a hundred and eight five 21 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: million dollars they would be. They would have a guy 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: counting almost a third of their salary cap to not 23 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: play for them, and then you'd have to pay another quarterback, 24 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: and then you would have to have another note of 25 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: their backup is off top of hand, but they're not 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: going to hand it to that guy. I mean, it's 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: gonna be somebody else. In addition to so you gotay, 28 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: it's silly to even talk about it. It's not going 29 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: to happen. We were kind of talking about it off 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: the year. I didn't realize the end money was that 31 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: great because you know the headlines, Like everybody else I'm reading, think, well, 32 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: maybe he can kind of push the issue and get 33 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: out of there. They would have, assuming they add another quarterback, 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: they have like seventy million in cap space to one 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: if the more, if not more, for one player, really 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: for a starting quarter in a year in which the 37 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: salary cap is going down, which makes no sense. It 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: makes no sense. I mean, it's an impossibility. This is 39 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: what makes it the same. It's the same reason here 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: that the Texans trading. Deshaun Watson is almost an improbability. 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: Now he can say whatever he wants to say. I'm 42 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I'll never play a cross with the screen. I'm never 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: gonna play again for the text. You know what Deshaun 44 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: Watson's dead cap hit is for the Houston Texans sixty 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: seven million dollars in a year in which the salary cap. 46 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: That's more than a third. So they got for a 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: guy who's not going to play for you. Now the Texas, no, 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna stink. Well sure, sure, but you'll stink a 49 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: lot more without them, right, But if you can recoup 50 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: seven million dollars, you can't have even if the cap 51 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: had gone up this year, you can't. You can't have 52 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: sixty seven million dollars and get dead cap space. That 53 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: doesn't work. And all you folks that are complaining about 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: the ben situation and the dead cap six seven the 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: same league, what was Wilsons are like twenty million more 56 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: than what Roethlisberger counts and the Steelers are want to 57 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: renegotiate that to get it down. I mean, I've heard 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: people in the last twenty four hours who do a 59 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: good job on TV and in podcast and do what 60 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: we do for a living Sam, who says no Watson 61 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: for Wilson. Do you know how much money that would cost? 62 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean that would be like, Okay, we're gonna give 63 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: if we're the Texans, that's gonna cost us sixty seven 64 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: and then we're to play with and then you gotta 65 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: pay Russell his nineteen million dollar salary, right right, So 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: we got eighty five in cap space at the for 67 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: one player, really, and Seattle is not much better, well 68 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: maybe just a bad ship. I mean, Watson's base salaries 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: ten point five, So they'd be right, you know, Dad, 70 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: ten point five to the dead space and you get 71 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: a start a quarterback for this year? Nuts? Right, Yeah, 72 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: you can't do it? Can they negotiate? Though? I mean, like, 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: could Wilson tear up his contract or because the cap 74 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: hits the capit for like, because the guys just signed deal. 75 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: The signing bonus for both of those guys is what 76 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: the problem here? And the guaranteed money that's when there, 77 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: that's in their bank account, right yeah, they're they're living there. 78 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: That's their money unless they want to pay it back. Hey, 79 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's possible. I don't know 80 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: if it's possible either, right, I'll write you a check 81 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: for thirty million dollars if you trade me. Now we 82 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: can think about that. But I don't have that effect 83 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: my cat. I don't know that you can do that, right, right, right, 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean not to mention the owner. That's his money. 85 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: Like let's talking about like it's monopoly money. Like he 86 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: wrote a check and signed it, you know, the owner 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: of the Shawn Watson. And this happened in what twenty 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: last season before last season? Yeah, right, these are new deals. 89 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: They gave him a twenty seven million dollar signing bonus 90 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: with that deal that makes you untradeable basis, and ten 91 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: million dollars of his contract is fully guaranteed of a 92 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: four year, hundred and fifty six million dollar contracts. So, 93 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: and both these young men were very happy to sign them, 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: because Watson's was like this even more recent. Yeah, they 95 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: were thrilled, you know, absolutely, and was the organization that 96 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: much different then? So we could talk about this stuff 97 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: all we want dollars, they're very unlikely to happen. The 98 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: Texans could do it and just stink the joint at 99 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, but Seattle is a playoff team last year. 100 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's a hundred years old. I mean they're gonna 101 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: win now, then win now mode forever. Right. You know, 102 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: they don't have their on first round pick this year 103 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: or next year, right Adams because they traded away guy there. 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: They they've done this like the Penguins do it. They 105 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: will trade you first round picks. They don't value first 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: round picks. And they've traded for Jimmy Graham and Jacy 107 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Harvin and guys like that over the years too. Why 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: it's funny, like even before I knew these cap situations, 109 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: I was talking about Wilson and we we you know, 110 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: the names of teams that he was interested in, Like, 111 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: for example, the Bears were one. I'm like, one, are 112 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: the Bears even going to give him? I mean money aside? 113 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: Five first round picks? And Seattle doesn't even like first 114 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: round picks, you know, like so they can trade them, 115 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: Like I don't even know how you make a deal 116 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: just football wise, let alone cap wise. So he's going 117 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: to Seattle. Yeah, but he's staying and maybe they fire 118 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: the whole coaching staff is a better chance and than 119 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: getting rid of the quarterback at this point. Yeah, So 120 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: that's to me, I wanted to make this first segment 121 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: today about myth busting, and that's one of the like 122 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: we're all guilty of it. You read a headline or 123 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: something that goes across the screen, or you get a 124 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: blurb on your phone and then you start thinking. But 125 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: there's more to it than that. It's not just it's 126 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: not like and that's what makes football is different than 127 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: all the other sports. If a guys in baseball, for example, 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: signs a four year, eighty million dollar contract, he's probably 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: getting he's probably getting twenty million dollars a year, and 130 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: and it's fully guaranteed. There's no signing bonus, there's no 131 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: salary cap. Do you don't have to worry about that 132 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: that part of it. You're you know what the cap, 133 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: you know what the money is, He's gonna get it. 134 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: It's guaranteed, you know, if you live with it. But yeah, 135 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean football is a lot different. There's more involved 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: than just saying, hey, would anybody would any team like 137 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: to add to Shawn Watson? Absolutely with any team like 138 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: you add Russell Wilson. Absolutely sure, But it's not not 139 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: bad for the buyer, but the settler can't do it. Yeah, 140 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: it becomes you know you just can't do it. And 141 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: that's why the draft picks that the compensation has to be. 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean again, if you're Houston and you're gonna trade 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: to Shawn Watson and take on what I say, sixty 144 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: eight million dollar cap pits, yeah, I'd better get three 145 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: or four first round draft picks for him. I mean hypothetical, 146 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: if this is a year from now and the same 147 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: situations popped up with name any two quarterbacks, the Steelers 148 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: could trade for those guys, but the the team doesn't 149 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: can't get rid of him. The difficult thing here, like Patrick, 150 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: you couldn't trade. You couldn't trade for Patrick Mahomes. If 151 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes went to the Chiefs tomorrow and said I 152 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: want out. I will never play for you again. I'll 153 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: never play for you again, they couldn't trade him. No, 154 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: because the cap hit that Davis, right, I'm gonna look 155 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: it up here. It's gonna be worse than Wilson's or Watson's, 156 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: who are high because he got a huge signing, like 157 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: because it got a ridiculous deal, right, I mean, that's 158 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: that's basically saying we're getting married when we signed his 159 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: contract and it's for life. I mean if you change it. 160 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: This is work worse, you know, worse than worse than marriage. 161 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: But but it's it's it's more, it's almost more binding 162 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: than marriage, right, I mean, there's no divorce. Like Patrick 163 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes dead cap hit would be fifty nine. It's not 164 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: it's not awful. His dead cap hit if he had 165 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: gone to them, Well, he just signed a deal this year, 166 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: but his dead cap hit would have been sixty almost 167 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: sixty million. This year it goes down to fifty nine 168 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: point six. So you're getting a bargain there. I mean, 169 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: these awesome quarterback deals means that there, that team's quarterback. Again. 170 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: I guess Houston is a little different. I mean, if 171 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: he truly refuses to, I don't think Wilson's to the 172 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: point where I'm never going to play another staff for 173 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: you guys. Again, I'm offended. I hate the organization. He's 174 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: gonna go back to Seattle, Watson. They could really stink 175 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: out to joint and pay nobody this year and make 176 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: it work. But it's such bad business. I mean it's again, 177 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's you're you're not using your money at 178 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: all wisely, No, no, not at all, not at all. Um, 179 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: another myth. I mean, and this is warm a NFL thing. 180 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: You need to take a running back in the first 181 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: round or you're you know, you're wasting your time. These 182 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: guys can't. This is what I'm hearing from a lot 183 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: of Steeler fences. Stee have to take Naj Harris in 184 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: the first round if he's available. That's the move to make, 185 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: because you need upgrade that running game. Here's the list 186 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: of the top ten rushers in the NFL season. Derrick 187 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: Henry second round, second round pick, Dalvin Cook round second 188 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: round pick, Jonathan Taylor, second round pick, Aaron Jones third 189 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: round pick. Maybe a four, but he was, he was 190 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: a four. They took Jamal Williams uh, David Montgomery, third 191 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: round pick, James Robinson undrafted, Nick Chubb second round pick, yes, 192 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: early but second round pick. Uh. Josh Jacobs first round 193 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: pick but a late first round yeah, Lamar Jackson, he 194 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: doesn't count. Melvin Gordon was the first round pick. Yeah, 195 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: I guess so. But he's on a second team. But 196 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: he's on a second team and he's not making big money. 197 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was a tenth leading rusher this year. 198 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: So of the of the top ten leading rushers, in 199 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: the NFL this season. And that's not even only only 200 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: nine of those guys were thousand yard rushers. And it 201 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't a great year for Russia for running 202 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: back production. Overall. All those guys are second, third, fourth 203 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: round picks were undrafted, and you didn't even mentioned Kamara, 204 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: who's the third. You know, he's had a super productive guy. 205 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: There's a little caveat there that Barkley and McCaffrey pretty 206 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: much missed the whole year. Like in every fantasy draft, 207 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: they were the first two or three picks, you know 208 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: what I mean, And so that's a bit of an anomaly. 209 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: They were super high picked. Ezekiel Elliott played all year 210 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: long and didn't play. He's starting to decline. You know, 211 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: are the other high picks, Girly is shot Um trying 212 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: to think of some of the other first are four 213 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: nets never lived up to it in terms of yards 214 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: per game. That changes things was bad. That changes things 215 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. But you got Henry Cook, Chubb, Aaron Jones, 216 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, James Robinson, Miles Sanders because he missed a 217 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: couple of games. The second round pick Joe Mixing, second 218 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: round pick Um Montgomery Josh Jacobs as your top ten. 219 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm not arguing with you, but a couple of those guys, 220 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Mixing Cook our first round talents. But they went where 221 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: they went because they went right and part of it, 222 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: and if they were quarterbacks they would have been first 223 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: round or if they were left half Mixings. Mixing was 224 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: lucky he was drafted. I'm sure there's if he was 225 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: less talented. Yeah, I'm sure he wasn't on the boards 226 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams weren't taking him in the 227 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: seventh round. He's a different one. Cooke was knees Um. No, 228 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: it's a great point, but this draft, I hope my 229 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: tune changes in a month. I think there's still three backs. 230 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: I think so, but I think they're the more I 231 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: look at this. The other thing, the other thing, Yeah, well, 232 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: the other thing about this is when you look at 233 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: the list of guys, what's a what's a good number 234 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: of carries for a back over two hundred and over 235 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: one fifty or judge them? So for one, there were 236 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: only ten backs who had more than two d carries 237 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: last year. Because I was about to say it after 238 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: you asked me that how many bell cow every down 239 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: backs are in the league. There are many many everybody's 240 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: was a great player, but he's not that guy. All right, 241 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: are you looking for a Bell cow back, because that's 242 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: kind of pass a now, it's a bit of a 243 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: Tomlin thing, it is, But that doesn't mean that's the 244 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: only way to go, the only way to you know, 245 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: to fly the skies. Um, here were the here were 246 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: the backs? A bell call back? Here was you? No, 247 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it is. I think he's 248 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: more of one of these guys. You give it to 249 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: him two hundred times and six. I mean, Aaron Jones 250 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: isn't a Bell go back. And he barely. He was 251 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: the last guy with with more than two. He had 252 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: two one carries less. And they used the second round 253 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: pick on a running backs, and they used the second 254 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: round pick. So is Henry Cook, Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery, Ezekiel, 255 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Elliott Robinson, Kenyan Drake, Drake's a strange one. Jonathan Taylor, 256 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, and Aaron Jones. Those are the backs this 257 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: year who got just too many carries two hundred carries, 258 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: which means you gotta stay healthy. It's like, but that's 259 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: not a high bar. That's fourteen carries a game, fourteen 260 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: carries game and play every game or missed two games. 261 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: In average, these guys all played at least four teen games. Okay, 262 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Now, there would have been like Chubb 263 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: would have gotten over that number. He was he games, 264 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: and I'm sure McCaffrey and say Kuan would have too. 265 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's a speculation, but there there, But that's 266 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: all part of it. That's why you don't get the 267 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, go go with backs who get that many 268 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: carries because they are they have a tendency to break 269 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: down at some point. I mean, anyone plays fantasy realizes 270 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: running backs go super high because there's not many that 271 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: get the touches, so many teams have a combination. My problem, though, 272 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: and this is very Steeler centric and recency bias, is 273 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: their backs have been too different, you know what I mean, 274 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: snell Ver Samuels. That doesn't get it done. I mean, 275 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: neither one of those to be is over the line. 276 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: They don't have to be I think centric in the 277 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: way that they play. I think it goes back to 278 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: what we were talking about on Wednesday, where okay, you 279 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: draft one, preferably in the first two rounds because now 280 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: you're getting a premium talent because you don't have to 281 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: take a print. You don't have to take a running 282 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: back in the first round to get a premium talent. There. 283 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: That's kind of the point of this. And I agree 284 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: with that nine nine years out of ten. I'm not 285 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: sure I agree with it this year though, but it 286 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: may happen. It could still happen this year. There's still 287 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: guarantee that nausea Harris Travis at n we said this 288 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: last year, Oh, you know, one of those backs or 289 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: two of those backs will go in the first round. 290 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: I bet they're all there at twenty four and one 291 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: of them went in the first round last year, and 292 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: they were all in in ten years ago, four of 293 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: them going the first Yeah, right, right, Dobbins is you 294 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: know you go in the first round, right, But it didn't. 295 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen now because the teams wait, because teams wait. Yeah. 296 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: I mean. The whole tackle verse back conversation is a 297 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: really good one. I'm just not sure where I stand 298 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: on it, because in a vacuum, I don't care what 299 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: team or the players, or the season, or the year 300 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: or the draft class, I'll always, always, always take a 301 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: tackle the tackle is gonna be with you longer, presuming 302 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: sign them after the first deal. Anyone that drafts a 303 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: running back should look at it like we're getting one 304 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: contract out of him, and then I better draft another 305 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: one in year four. And that's to me, And we've 306 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: talked about this, that fifth year option being now fully guaranteed. 307 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: Do you want to fully guarantee your running back in 308 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: year five? Do you want that running back in your 309 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: five it's yeah, the most injury pro position you plan 310 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: on running into the ground. If you get to that point, 311 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: you can just choose the franchise tag on him, which 312 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: isn't and you get that fifth year. It's the same 313 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: thing if the guy is any good and to make 314 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: because if you make the Pro Bowl, that fifth year 315 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: option is the average. It's it's essentially the franchise tag. 316 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: If you're the first one pick on the running back, 317 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: you better make a Pro Bowl, yea, because you're paying 318 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: that guy the average of the top five players at 319 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: his position, which is the franchise tag. If you pick 320 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: up the fiftieer option on him and he hasn't made 321 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, then you have to it's the average 322 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: of the top ten guy. So it's essentially the transition tag, 323 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: which isn't that good a deal? Uh? Who hasn't He 324 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: hasn't made the Pro Bowl. So here's my question to you. 325 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: Would you rather pick na J Harris at thirty two 326 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: or thirty three? Yeah? Right, so you may look at that. 327 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Teams may may look at that. And that's what nobody's 328 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: thinking about right now. The only we're the only people 329 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: talking about this that I know of. I haven't heard 330 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: this from any that fifth year option since since it 331 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: is now fully guaranteed, not your friend anymore? Great, Yeah, 332 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: you're not like give t J the option or make 333 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: of the option or because for example, when the Steelers 334 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: and the Steelers will pick up the fifth year option 335 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: on make a Fitzpatrick issue, what they're essentially doing then 336 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: is fully guaranteeing the final two years of his contract. 337 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: Because it's the same as attack. As soon as you 338 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: offer that guy that that deal or that that make 339 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: it pick up that option, his next year's salary becomes 340 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. So even if you cut him going into 341 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: into training camp after he's yeah, you can't he get 342 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: hit by a bus, he could quit, you owe him 343 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: that Money's yeah, he's get guaranteed like other sports. That's 344 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: one of the only instances that actually gets that way. Yeah, 345 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: it's boy, I mean, how many There aren't many players 346 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: that I'm taking no matter what and not highly entertaining 347 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: trade downs, you know what I mean. And that includes Harris. 348 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: Maybe it would change my tune if Harris has already 349 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: gone and I feel like I have to get it back. 350 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: But that's bad business. And you just rattled off, you know. 351 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: I don't think the second round backs this here will 352 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: be as good as most years. Is one of my problems. Right, 353 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: that's the that's the flying six of them like we 354 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: talked about last year. But to all three of the 355 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: like or do two of those backs go in the 356 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: first round. I'm not so sure. I don't think they 357 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: will because I think a lot of teams are gonna 358 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: look at this the same way that like that we are, Well, 359 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I'll take the tackle, or I'll take the defensive tackle, 360 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: or I'll take even though the defensive tackles aren't they 361 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: good this year. When you when you're looking at it 362 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: long term, here, you're going, Okay, I can take Christian 363 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: Barmore at five, or I can take a running back 364 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: at twenty I'll take Christian Barmore. He's gonna be with 365 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: my team for the next ten years or eight years. 366 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you still have to pay him after contract one, 367 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: right and including, but you know you're gonna be getting 368 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman and he's going to probably be there. 369 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna have value there. And that's what I was 370 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: saying about tackle versus running back too. Is The big 371 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: thing to me is I don't have, at least under 372 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: the old rules. I'm I don't think Carolina and even 373 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Dallas are upset about using an early pick on Barkley, McCaffrey, Elliott. 374 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: They've gotten a lot of good usage out of them. 375 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: I think the teams are upset about extending Girly, extending Zeke. 376 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: You know, it hasn't hit Therrick Henry yet. But I 377 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: think paying a running back after contract one is bad business. 378 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure of that. Drafted one in the 379 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: first round, run him in the around and send him 380 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: on his way is bad business. But what I do 381 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: know is if I get in a situation, and this 382 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: certainly applies to Steelers, where I have to add a 383 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: back or a tackle from outside the organization, it's expensive, 384 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: it's awful to do a tackle, you know what I mean. 385 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: Villain Wave was gonna make big money if he wants 386 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: to play somewhere, and he didn't block people very well 387 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: this year, you know what I mean? The Pro Football 388 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: focus at him as the Steelers number one offensive linemen. 389 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: That's nice. I wish him the best. I'm rooting for him. Yeah, 390 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's you can get backs and 391 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: better than the Carlos Hides and James Connors the world too. 392 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: This is an odd year for backs, That's why. And 393 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: the more I think about it, and just a couple 394 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: of days ago, I said, I think the first pick 395 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: is going to be a back. Because there's only three, 396 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: you've got to get one of them. But the Steelers 397 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: are big picture thinkers, and I'm sure that if we 398 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: all believe that I was saying that nine out of 399 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: ten times you should take the tackle over the back, 400 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: all things being equal, because you should. I don't think 401 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna get out of their lane just for that reason. 402 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they won't take it back in the 403 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: first round, but they understand the big picture. He better 404 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: be a really special would be a really special back. 405 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: Are any of these three really special. I mean they're 406 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: not Sa Kwan No, I mean that's special. Yeah, you know, 407 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean they're good, really good players. Massive upgrades. And 408 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: what's interesting too is how much of the tackles a 409 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: starter though. That's the other point that that's the other 410 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: side of the equation. You have to think about who's 411 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: going to help you most this year? What would be 412 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: the back? It would be the back more than probably 413 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: because you don't have a starter there right, Which keeps 414 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: bringing me back to the trade down is, let's not 415 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: for something here, Let's let the draft tell us what 416 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: to take because guys are falling off the board and 417 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: we don't have as much invested. But it takes two 418 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: to trade down to absolutely Anyways, let's in fun segment. 419 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: I think there, you know, we could do this a 420 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: lot in terms of, you know, the myth busting and 421 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: those kind of things. It's just, you know, I think 422 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: there are a lot of assumptions that go on that 423 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: happened out there, like just real quickly, or I think 424 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: the assumption was well, Ben and Rooney sat down this 425 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: week and the only thing they talked about was his contract. No, no, no, no, no, no, 426 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, this was this was about getting Ben to 427 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: buy into you know, I have some quick number, real 428 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: quickly here numbers here. In twenty twenty last season, the 429 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: Steelers ranked thirty first or I'm sorry, thirties and running 430 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: the football. They were thirty feet running the football. You're 431 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: not talking about success number of running places. Um. In 432 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: nineteen when Roethlisberger missed the entire season, they were twenty one. 433 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: So this tells me that roethlisbergers we've talked about a lot, 434 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: is checking out of a lot of past place, checking 435 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: into past place, out of run place. Well, I think 436 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: that's because of his lack of confidence in the running backs. 437 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: Because when they had Levy on Bell and they were 438 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: in the ball the fifteenth most times and they handed 439 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: they gave it to him and if it's up the band, 440 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: he had no problem doing it. So I think part 441 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: of that conversation with with with Art Rooney and roethlisbergers, hey, 442 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna get you back this year, that you got 443 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: to give him the ball. You need to play, you 444 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: need to you need to live up it. Like we 445 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: don't want you throwing the ball six times. That doesn't work. 446 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: If we can cut that down the five fifty. That's 447 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: better for you and it's better for us, and we 448 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: want to if we're going to draft the back in 449 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: the first two rounds, we want you to use them. 450 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: One last note that you mentioned off the air when 451 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: we kind of went through those numbers, that want people 452 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: to know when your quarterback doesn't run, you're gonna be 453 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: You're not. You're not going to be in the top ten. 454 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: You're just not. Atlanta's at the bottom, you know, like 455 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: Tampa Tampa Bay ran the ball less than the Steelers 456 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: this year because their quarterback doesn't run the ball. I mean, 457 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 1: we're not talking about lamars, but if you have a 458 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: guy that runs four or five six times a game 459 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 1: time sixteen, you can't keep up with that, right you know, 460 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: So that part is important. The Steelers probably won't be 461 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: in the top fifteen next year. Ben's runs are mostly 462 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: kneel downs at the end of the game if you're 463 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: way scrambled on. So you're not going to get the 464 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: numbers there, you know. Just in terms of rushing attempts, 465 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Buffalo never handball with their running backs, and 466 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: I bet they have a lot of rushing. They still 467 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: have more rushing attempts in the Steelers, and they don't 468 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: ever hand the ball off. He is Matt Williamson. I'm 469 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: Dale Lali. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers 470 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We want to thank Jacob Brecht for keeping 471 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: us on the air during this segment, and we want 472 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: to thank you for listening to this edition of The 473 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.