1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We have a new edition. YEP. On my vacation, 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: my wife somehow convinced me that we needed a new 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: dog needed. So on Saturday, she said, I've got this arranged. 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: It's from East Coast Canine, the rescue place that we 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: brought in Penny from, And all I had to do 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: is drive two hours to go pick up the package. 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: I pick up the package. We don't know what kind 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: of breed Winnie is, but we know that Winnie is 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: here to stay, and we brought her into the man 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Cave this morning. Accidents everywhere, but that's okay. She's a puppy. 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: But if you get an opportunity and you're looking to 13 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: get a rescue, East Coast Canine did a wonderful job. 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: We also have Pennies Bang Biscuits, great dog foods for 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if Winnie is ready for that yet, 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: but he certainly is. We have our own dog biscuits 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: here and we have some hand picked partners in the 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: pet industry that we're donating some of the proceeds to 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Bang Biscuits Gourmet dog biscuits there. But got a new 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: puppy and I forgot you gotta wake up. You know. 21 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: It was one fifty in the morning, and I went, 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I gotta take the dog out. So you take the 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: dog out. The dog doesn't know the dog is supposed 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: to go out. The dogs like, what are we doing? 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's in the it's late late at night, 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: early in the morning. You know, it's wet out here 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: on the ground, and you're just standing there holding the 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: dog on a leash. And she didn't do anything. And 29 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: I took her back in, put her in her little kennel, 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: little little kennel there and so happy to see me 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: in the morning. Yeah. Point, did you agree to this 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: or was it already green upon without your input? Going 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: down a bad road? Uh no, No, we had a 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: good conversation, but my wife was well down the road. 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: You're kind of like a guy who has friends with boats, 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Like you love playing, going on the boat, bringing the 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: beer to the boat. You're a great friend to go 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: on boats with. But like now you got to take 39 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: care of the boat. Yeah, I don't want the boat. Yeah, 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: you want a friend of a boat. Yes, like the 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: big German has penny. Yes, you pat it and play 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: with it. I love Penny and but the big german 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: takes Penny home. Yes me, Clevin, But I could see 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: you fall in love so hard, so fast. I saw 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: you outside with that thing. There's no separated YouTube for life. 46 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Oh I know that. I mean, I'm aware of it. 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: My wife knows that, and my kids know that. But 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: I'm the one that's going to be with this puppy. 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: I'm the one that's up at two in the morning. 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm the one that's going to be there with her, 51 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, this afternoon and when she's teething, and then 52 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: she tears up one of the chairs that my wife 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: loves so much. Yees seton. Yeah. Man, that's the classic 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: dad role of a dog. I know. Well, there's videos 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: that my kids keep sending me of the dad saying 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: to the kids, this is your dog. You take care 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: of this dog. Next thing, you know, you know, the 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: dad is holding the dog and loving the dog. Paully 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: didn't want a dog, No, didn't want a dog. For years, 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: I kept saying, Paulli, you love the outdoors, you know, 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: get some flannel for your puppy. Taken to Vermond, you know. 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the kids wore me down. 63 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Paully's all in getting his puppy. Mclovin's next. I already 64 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: said a video of your dog to the girls. It's 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: a hard, full core press every day, seven days a week. 66 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: Oh so, if you're watching on Peacock, we call her Winnie. 67 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: Actually we got her. There was a picture on the 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: website and her name was Penny, and I said, there's 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: only one Penny in my life. And I told the 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: big german, her name is Penny, but I'm going to 71 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: change it. So I let my youngest daughter change it 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: to winning. How's the puppy deal with the name change? 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: So far? Oh good? A little traumatic, you know. She 74 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: had all this jewelry with a penny on bling bling. 75 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: So that's what I did on my vacation. I got 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: a puppy. How about fifteen seconds each recamp? What you 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: did on your vacation? Let me start with the most 78 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: interesting man here, mclovin. What did you do? So? I 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: spent the first half vacation at home bothering my wife, 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: who's working at home. She said, get out of here. 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: And my friend was visiting Atlanta, and I have some 82 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: friends down there, so I took a quick trip to Atlanta, 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: that turned into something unexpected because there was an event 84 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: down in Atlanta. I don't know if you guys were 85 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: aware of this that brought every bizarre celebrity you've ever 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: seen in your life down there. That's a tease. I 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: could tell it was a fight. Oh is that the 88 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: Oh God, that weird fight with the YouTube guy took 89 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: over the entire town and all these people are running 90 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: around with video cameras screaming. Rick Flair's walking around the 91 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: corner yelling. It was the most I was only there 92 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: for two days, visiting a couple of friends, and I 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: must have or her like every weird, like b list 94 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: celebrity you've ever heard, is this Jake Paul. Yes, okay, 95 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: he fought a UFC guy. I guess on Saturday night 96 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: on pay per view, did you go to the event? No? No, no, 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I was already got I didn't even know what the 98 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: event was till Sunday morning. I read they were all 99 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: wearing these fight club T shirts, so it's a big thing. 100 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: Apparently there was so much hype leading up to this, 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: and I kept thinking, Okay, this guy, Jake Paul is 102 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: a internet I don't know what is he? An influencer? 103 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: Used like an early vlogger. You know, he was as yeah, 104 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: YouTube guy, very famous. Okay, but he's had a couple 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: of fights. First of all, he's fighting a thirty six 106 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: year old UFC guy who's retired. I think, yes, Now 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: he wasn't like a great UFC guy either. No, And 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: then they made a big deal about him knocking this 109 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: guy out, and I said, well, how about he just 110 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: fights a fighter. Maybe that would be the way to go. 111 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: Then I would be impressed. Oh, he knocked him out. 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I went, okay, how about if they wrestle. It's like 113 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: if Connor McGregor, Connor McGregor, if he fought Floyd Mayweather 114 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: and they did MMA, he would kill Floyd Mayweather. He 115 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: would have him on the ground and Floyd would be crying. 116 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: But you know the UFC part of this, and you're 117 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, Jake Paul knocks him out. And I went 118 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: to wake me up when he fights somebody, because I'm 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: hearing people who are just you know, they're breaking down. 120 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: You know, Hey, he's got the skill. He's got really, 121 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: he's got some boxing skills. Okay, he looks slow, he 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: does look like he's in shape, and he has a 123 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: punch all right, that's great. Who am I Teddy Atlas? 124 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm breaking this down? No? Then I got mad. I'm like, 125 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: why aren't we spending so much damn time on this guy? 126 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: This guy, I want to see him go in there 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: with somebody who's legitimately a fighter and then see how 128 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: he does. Who else did you run into? Well, Chuck 129 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: Liddell was there randomly. Remember remember my moment with Chuck 130 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: Lidell where I called him out when he did that 131 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: battery commercial. Yeah, yeah, And I said he didn't look 132 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: like he was in shape. And next thing I know, 133 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: Chuck Lidell's on the phone. He wants to talk to me. 134 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: Who is the guy who came in a studio and 135 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: almost killed all of us? It wasn't oh, very nice guy, 136 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: but he shaking my hand, he broke like three bones. 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: That guy looked like the character Jason Statham tries to 138 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: play in every movie, Like that guy's real Jason Statham 139 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: wants to be Randy Coutour. But my big run in 140 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: was who, I'll let you guess, who do you run 141 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: into in Atlanta? Who does everybody run into? Who's everyone's 142 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: best friend who happens to be doing a job it 143 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: has nothing else to do in town, Chuck, Nope, close 144 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: other side of the desk Charles Barkley, and he had 145 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: a message for you that I will show you in 146 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: a look in later. You're gonna show me. Yes, we 147 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: recorded a little video. Did okay? Yeah? Yeah, you just 148 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: had a nice little Charles note for you, all right, 149 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Fritzie fifteen seconds on what you did on vacation. I 150 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: visited family in Brooklyn. I went to home depot looking 151 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: at refrigerators, and I got my second vaccine this past weekend, 152 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: and went for some walks around the neighborhood Seaton O'Connor. 153 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: I brought my son to soccer every day, which was awesome. 154 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: It's like my favorite thing to do. And then I've 155 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: been working on this apartment. Then I'm renovating that's so 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: far hasn't been going sly as unlike it to go. 157 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: If you could go back in time and pay somebody 158 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: to do it. No, because I'm hiring out the hard things. 159 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: Oh you know, so like there's some things that if 160 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: there's like some electrical things that I'm not comfortable doing. 161 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: Then anytime that somebody says up to code that somebody 162 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: else is doing that if I need to get something 163 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: up to code, somebody else is doing it. Are you 164 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: making it better or worse? I'm making it better. But 165 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: sometimes you take a few steps backwards. Okay, all right 166 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: in order to go forward. Oh what did you do 167 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: on your family? Went down to Georgia Coastal Georgia and 168 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: South Carolina, like Saint Simon's Island and Savannah and Charleston 169 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: and Kiwa basically is a seafood barbecue tour driving around there. 170 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: And I did try kayaking for the first time. It's tricky. 171 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: It's real tricky if you have no athletic ability and 172 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: no balance. I have no balance. Yeah, and I don't 173 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: mind doing the rowing part. But you would have thought that, uh, 174 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: you would have thought I'd never been out just getting in. 175 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's tricky. The guy who was helping, he 176 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: really enjoyed seeing me getting in and out. That That's 177 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: what I'd say. Uh, all right, So we're yes, kayaking, 178 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: so got tricky. Like I year olds get it a kayak, 179 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: they don't tip. I saw a lot of eighty five 180 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: year olds comfortably getting in and out. I'm talking about 181 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: me and I had a hard time getting in a 182 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: count getting in it's hard, I admit, But once you're 183 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: on the water. Oh no, I couldn't get out either. Yeah, 184 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: but what you're on the water, it couldn't possibly be easier. No, 185 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: that one's fine. You're getting it about the kayak, then 186 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: I'm an Olympian. It's getting it and getting out where 187 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm in trouble. I'm in distress. Yes, Poe. I saw 188 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: some dolphins in the water and that was very majestic. 189 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: My kids went crazy. But then on a bank about 190 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: fifty yards when I left, I saw a sleeping alligator 191 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: and that's not fun. Now, he didn't bother me. I 192 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: didn't bother him, But the fact that I made contact 193 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: with him, he doesn't care. I puckered up at him. 194 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't care. 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He's the one that profiled Trevor Lawrence. 204 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick of the Mothership will join us. Coming up. 205 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: Trey Lance with another pro day. Justin Fields had his 206 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: second pro day. San Francisco has been going to these 207 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: pro days, even though they reportedly have decided that they're 208 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: taking mac Jones number three overall. I checked with my 209 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: source yesterday and said any update on mac Jones. And 210 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: this was a month ago when my source said he's 211 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: told by three different people that mac Jones is going 212 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: to the Niners, But there is at least one personnel 213 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: person with the Niners who's holding out hope that they'll 214 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: take Trey Lance. It still comes back to and this 215 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: is what my source said. You traded an awful lot 216 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: to go up and get mac Jones or Trey Lance, 217 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: and it feels like you didn't have to go all 218 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: the way to three to get them. But we got 219 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of time here. Also, I have a 220 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: couple of sleeper players to keep an eye on from 221 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: a source. You know, we hear about the big names 222 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: but a couple other names to just kind of file away. 223 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Have that for you coming up as well. It hasn't 224 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: been a great era for rivalries and professional sports because 225 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: you've got players who are the brands now, they're bigger 226 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: than the teams they play for. But in baseball we 227 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: got an old school rivalry brewing. And there was the 228 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: Dodgers and the Padres over the weekend, and I like 229 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: the fact that they don't like each other. You know, 230 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: they have the elements of a great rivalry. You know, 231 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: you start with the proximity. Fans can drive back and 232 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: forth to each other's stadiums, you know, and potentially the 233 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: Padres can be a great team. We know the Dodgers are. 234 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: They're already there, defending champs. Started out the season. Remember 235 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: when they lost their first game and all of a sudden, 236 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm reading Twitter and they're nervous about the Dodgers. All 237 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: the hangover World Series hangover. That was a long long 238 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: time ago, long time ago. Remember when Justin Turner passed 239 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger on the field, you know, on the bases 240 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: and cost him a home run. But the Padres or 241 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: a team on the rise. You got Fernando Tatis and 242 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: Machado good pitching staff. Saturday night, it got a little heated, 243 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: and you know, the low keyed, normally low keyed Clayton 244 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: Kershawn got into a yelling match with a ketcher's interference call. 245 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: It was good fun to see. I like it. Another 246 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: baseball story. The Yankees are not playing well, and there's 247 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: a portion of the New York media, New York population 248 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: that loves this because they would love to see the 249 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: Mets get back up to where they were I don't know, 250 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: ten years, fifteen years ago. But you also, if you 251 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: start to think of the secondary teams, you know, the 252 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: Nets are a secondary team to the Knicks as far 253 00:13:54,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: as publicity, you know fan, you know true fandom. You 254 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: have the Jets, who are far more interesting than the 255 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Giants are, and the Mets could be more interesting than 256 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: the Yankees, although the Yankees losing is still interesting. But 257 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: you're starting to see a little bit of a shift 258 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: there with these secondary teams. He asked. Mclevin's la the 259 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: same way where there's the first year the Lakers, the Dodgers, 260 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: I guess, the Rams sort of it's kind of newer, 261 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: and then there's the Chargers, Clippers, and yeah, it'sn't funny 262 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: how the city's evolved and isn't in New York. If 263 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: you're from Long Island, you like the Mets, the Islanders, 264 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,239 Speaker 1: and like if it depends where you're from, the Jets. Yeah, 265 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: the Yankees five and fifteen, Dodgers thirteen and three. But 266 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, some good baseball. I love watching the Padres 267 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers. That was fun to see, and I 268 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: hope that it's going to be a big rivalry. The 269 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Yankees are five and ten, not five and fifteen. We're starting, 270 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, three decades or so. Julian Edelman retires, 271 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: and of course that brought up the obligatory question of 272 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: is he a Hall of Famer, and I went, We've 273 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time, a long time. 274 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into it right now, but 275 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: I'll get into it in a little bit here. But 276 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: Julian Edelman has retired. Although not everybody on my staff 277 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: thinks that Julian Edelman is truly retired. I guess maybe 278 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: you'll hold out hope that he could end up a 279 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay buccaneer. I don't see it. I don't think 280 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: the knee responded to surgery, and I think Julian Edelman 281 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: knows that he's done. Cleman, you got a pull question, 282 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: well you sort of hit on it, but Paul came 283 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: up with what story from last week do you want 284 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: us to talk about today? And I think the Edelman 285 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: is going to be number one, but you missed a couple. 286 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: Let's see, so there's Edelman justin Fields pro day. Aaron 287 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Donald beats up somebody, then doesn't beat up somebody. And 288 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: I saw the video and this was a rush to 289 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: judgment because somebody accused Aaron Donald of beating him up, 290 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: and then I saw the video and then the guy 291 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: came out and apologize and said, no, Aaron Donald did not. 292 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah a point. I think the punishment for the guy 293 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: who falsely accused Aaron Donald beat him up. Aaron Donald 294 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: should be allowed to beat him up because you accused him. 295 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: You hurt his reputation. Some people didn't see then other 296 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: part of story, Aaron you got to do like a 297 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: couple of Oklahoma drills with Aaron Donald. Well, somebody did 298 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: beat him up, So I don't know if you need 299 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald to come in again. The other story that 300 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: the front Row forced me to put on here that 301 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: everyone's talking about super League. When are we going to 302 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: get into it? I don't know what it means. Sounds cool, though. 303 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: I come in with a puppy and nobody wants to 304 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: talk about the puppy. They want to talk about this 305 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: European soccer super League, and I go, I got a puppy. 306 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: And Seaton was like, you know, could this be college football? 307 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Could this super league? Could it turn out to be 308 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: college football? Could they do that in college football? And 309 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: I go, hold on, let me put the puppy down. Yeah, 310 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: but I got a puppy. Yeah, your name's winning this 311 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: puppy though. I got a puppy. Yeah, I m club. 312 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: There's your poll, which would you rather talk about? Puppies 313 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: or super League? If another show steals at then you 314 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: know they stole it. Now. I will talk about the 315 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: Super League because I do think it is an interesting story. 316 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: And yes, I do think it translates into what we 317 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: could have in college football. I've been saying it for 318 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: a long long time with the Power five conferences. This 319 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: just takes the best teams in the Power five conferences 320 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: and they have their own super League Champions League. And 321 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: I do think that that is a distinct possibility here. Absolutely, 322 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: what else do you have in club? Well? With Lewis 323 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: Rady coming up? I know it's a cliche draft question, 324 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: but who's the can't miss guy of the top eight guys? 325 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: Take out Trevor Lords, if I give you Zach Wilson, 326 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: Trey Lads, Justin Fields, Kyle Pitts, Penny Suwell, Jamar Chase. 327 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Is there like a can't miss guy of that group? Oh, 328 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: it feels like it's Kyle Pitts. But if you look 329 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: at wide receiver tight ends taken in the top ten, 330 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: top fifteen, it's not a great track record. I would 331 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: probably say Penney Sewell, the offensive lineman with Oregon. If 332 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: I'm Cincinnati and I got Joe. This is what I 333 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: was told yesterday because I asked the same thing. You know, 334 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: what do you do if you're the Bengals? Now? I 335 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: don't know what Atlanta is going to do? And I said, 336 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: after Miami traded three, keep an eye on what the 337 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: Falcons do. Are they going to take a quarterback? I 338 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: was told Falcons think they can get three or four 339 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: more good years out of Matt Ryan. And if that's 340 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: the case, do you take his replacement or do you 341 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: take Kyle Pitts or Jamar Chase, whoever it might be, 342 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: whatever you do, but you start to figure out, all right, 343 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: who is going to be great for ten years? Not good, 344 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: not a starter great? And is it going to be 345 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: Pennay Seul And so my sources said, Okay, this is 346 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: what I'll put out there for you. You saw the 347 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. What happened when Patrick Mahomes didn't have any 348 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: time to throw. He was average. If you don't have 349 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: an offensive line, I don't care who your quarterback is, 350 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: he will be average. Tom Brady when he gets pressured 351 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: is average. When he has protection, he can still be great. 352 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the best quarterback or one of the best quarterbacks. 353 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: The same with Aaron Rodgers, but you have to protect him. 354 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: If I'm the Bengals, I take an offensive tackle if 355 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: I think that he is going to be great for 356 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: the next ten years. Be sure to catch the live 357 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am 358 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the 359 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app Lewis Riddick will be on the main 360 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: set for the NFL Draft on ESPN once again, Mike 361 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: Greenberg and Booger McFarlane. They'll be from Cleveland, ESPN. On ABC, 362 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: we'll both televise the draft three days April twenty ninth 363 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: through May. First, as we bring in the former defense 364 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: ship back and former NFL Pro Scount Director of Pro 365 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Personnel Lewis, let me hit you with the poll question. 366 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Let's take out Trevor Lawrence. The guy that you say 367 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: can't miss in the first ten picks is whom I'm 368 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna say. It's a Jamar Chase. Look, I just think 369 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: look yet to remember back in twenty nineteen, when this 370 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: young man was nineteen years old, he put together one 371 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: of the greatest seasons Joey ever see a wide receiver 372 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: put together. And it wasn't simply because LSU was better 373 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: than every one else. Wasn't simply because Joe Burrow wound 374 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: up being the number one overall pickause it was because 375 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: this guy torched every single SEC defensive back he went 376 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: up against. And many of them were very good, very 377 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: good players who wind up getting drafted high in the NFL. 378 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: And when you just think, when you look at how 379 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: just how he's constructed as far as his body type, 380 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the guys rock saw him. He's a monster, 381 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: and he's asked and he doesn't drop passes. He runs 382 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: great routes. He can run inside, he can run outside, 383 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: he can run deep, he can run short, he can 384 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: run after the catch. He can beat you in fifty 385 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: fifty balls. I don't know what else really you want 386 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: him to do. And he's just hyper competitive. So I mean, 387 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: I think whoever takes him is instantly getting the twelve 388 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yard receiver. Where do you stand on the 389 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: best tight end in the league going into the draft 390 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: or the best offensive lineman. If I said you could 391 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: have Kyle Pitts or Penny's sewell, and both both are 392 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: going to work out, but the priority of getting a 393 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: great tight end or a great offensive lineman, well, I 394 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: think in the context of team building, then I'm always 395 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: going to go inside out. I'm always going to build 396 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: the team front the back. So I'm going to make 397 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: sure I take care of the people who are throwing 398 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: the football to those guys who are pretty catching the 399 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: ball on the outside. And that's why wouldn't when the 400 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: conversation comes up about Cincinnati or well, I'm really not 401 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: about Atlanta because the land is not in the market 402 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: for a tackle. But when the conversation comes up for Cincinnati. 403 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: That's why I'm always going to defer to either a 404 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: Pena Soul or Vershawn Slater in order to protect Joe Burrow. 405 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: You just can't. You can't get by without it. And look, 406 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: and I think in a small way, although it was 407 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: a big game on a great stage, we learned that 408 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowls past year. Yeah, I just brought 409 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: that up. I agree for you to ignore that. You're 410 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: just kind of like defying what the football gods have 411 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: always told you is you better take care of your lines. 412 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: I know it doesn't sound it's not fun, because you know, 413 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is probably gonna do some damage on somebody's 414 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: fantasy team next year. But that's not the point. These 415 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: two young tackles, Soul and Slater and or guards whatever 416 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: wherever you want to play them, are going to be 417 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers and probably going to be All pros very quickly. 418 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: You have at Lantage four and there's sort of the 419 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: mystery team here. If somebody going to trade out, are 420 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: they going to take a quarterback? You're gonna take Kyle Pitts. 421 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Let's say you're running the Falcons. Yeah, knowing what you 422 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: know right now, draft just tonight, and you know who's 423 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: going one? Two? May you sort of know who's going one, 424 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: two and three? Do you think mac Jones is going three? 425 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: I do until until you know the data, or rather 426 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: the information that's coming in, says otherwise. And look, the 427 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: information that we're getting, we're primarily getting from people who 428 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: are dialed in and tapped into the people who are 429 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: making those decisions in a way that we know history 430 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: has proven that these guys are rarely wrong, all right, 431 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: So it makes sense to me as to why they 432 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: would go mac Jones. And I've talked about this a 433 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: lot about quarterback play is just not about physical traits. 434 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: When we get on shows like this, Dan, we've and 435 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: we've talked and you've talked to many people about this. 436 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: What happens usually? What is the reason why people usually 437 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: bust out of the league, especially at quarterback. It's not 438 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: because well, that guy just didn't have enough arm strength, 439 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: that guy just couldn't create enough plays off. That's not why. 440 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: It's because something happened upstairs in his mind, whether it 441 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: be the way he played the game on the field 442 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: from an intelligent perspective or the way he will care 443 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: himself off the field. That's usually what happens. It's something 444 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: as far as the way they're wired, no one has 445 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: any issues. As a matter of fact, everyone is louding 446 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: mac Jo's for the way he's wired. Some great quarterback 447 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: coaches and offensive coordinators are are praising them for that. 448 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: And Kyle and whoever else is advising him, whether it 449 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: be his father, Mike or whoever. They know this too, 450 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: so it wouldn't shock me if they take him now. 451 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: At the same time, you know you hear I heard 452 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: people over the weekend talking about the fact that Trey 453 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: Lance could sway them today with his pro day. Tray 454 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Lance swayed me from the very first time I talked 455 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: to him, and then I watched him on his first 456 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: pro day. Don't discount him. I understand these resumes and 457 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 1: as long look, I think everything is up is on 458 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: the table for them. I really do. But when people 459 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: as connected as Adam Schefter say what they say, and 460 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: then he continues to say until proven, until I hear 461 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: information otherwise this is where I'm going with it, then 462 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm going with it. Okay. So if you're Atlanta, you're 463 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: running Atlanta. You're on the clock. Let's say Mac Jones 464 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: has just been selected and the Atlanta Falcons select. You know, actually, 465 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to trade down. 466 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to do. You can't trade down, 467 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: I know. So now you're saying, do I pick a player? Right? 468 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: All right? Look, I'm one of those people who likes 469 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: to think about the long term. Really, okay, let me 470 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: just tell you what my thought process is. First of all, 471 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: the very first thing I need on in Atlanta's defense. 472 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: But I'm going I can't get great. I can't get 473 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: value at four. I can't. That's why I said I 474 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: want to trade down. Second, okay, now what do I want. 475 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: Do I want to think about the long term as 476 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: far as making sure I have an air apparent to 477 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, or do I need something right now in 478 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: the short term to appease my head coach who says 479 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan can play for three or four more years 480 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: and maybe address my quarterback position somewhere down the line. 481 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: You're running out of time with your draft. Probably you 482 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: know what, I'm probably going to turn in the card 483 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: for Kyle Pitts. That's what I'm gonna do. I agree 484 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: with you. Atlanta's problems are defensively in mind. Yeah, so, 485 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: but you can't. I don't know who's going to trade 486 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: up and then what do you get when you trade 487 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: back down there. Yeah, you don't want to go too 488 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: far if you're Atlanta. You don't want to get out 489 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: of the mix. You don't want to get out of 490 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: the you know, maybe somebody wants to come up there, 491 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: and somebody wants to grab either trade Lance or Justin 492 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: Fields or whoever it is at that point in time. 493 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: That's what you're that's what you're banking on. You know. 494 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: We've heard that, We've heard that Denver could possibly be 495 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: a mover, although there are people who said they have 496 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: not called Atlanta to move up before yet. That's what 497 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping, though, I'll tell you this, I'm gonna wait 498 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: until the very last second they turned in that car phone. 499 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing. He's Lewis Riddick from the Mothership. 500 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Anything in the Profile and Sports Illustrated on Trevor Lawrence 501 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: concern you. You know, there was a lot of brew. However, 502 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: what I said late last week about this, it caught 503 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: my attention there, all right, It caught my attention because 504 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: when we're talking about quarterbacks, When we're talking about quarterbacks, 505 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,239 Speaker 1: we're going to be drafted number one overall. I know 506 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: Trevor said he loves the game and he wants to 507 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: be the best ever to play it. I know, okay. 508 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: And I know he says he doesn't have a chip 509 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: on his shoulder. That's great. I never said anything about that, 510 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: but I will say this, quarterbacks in the NFL. Coaches 511 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL will tell you the game is much 512 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: harder at the NFL level and requires a different level 513 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: of preparation and a different mindset that whatever you had 514 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: when you thought when you were in college. And we 515 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: know this and I know this as a player, it's 516 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: totally different. So it made me think, Okay, well, I 517 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: know he's gotten by with everything that he's done, the 518 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: way he's done it so far, he's been the best 519 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: on the field every time he stepped on the field, 520 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: except for maybe when they played Ohio State and Justin 521 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: Field's the best on the field. But you know, I'm 522 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: just interested to see what his approaches and how he 523 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: talks about the game once he gets to Jacksonville and 524 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: things aren't as easy for him as they were at Clemson. 525 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: That's kind of I'm interested to hear how he talks 526 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: about the game then and as far as his preparation 527 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: and what his mindset is, or doesn't it change or 528 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: does he remain the same person and just say he 529 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: did say hey, look I'm still not driven by super bowls. 530 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm not driven by accolades. That's just not who does 531 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: he does he remain that guy? And if he does, great, 532 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: But the expectations are much different are going to be 533 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: much different for him in Jacksonville than they ever were 534 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: it even Clemson because he's the number one pick in 535 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: the draft. And the last thing I said about that 536 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: was this, if other players in the NFL, whether it 537 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: be quarterback or otherwise, had even intimated in any way 538 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: that football wasn't the number one thing that they that 539 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: on their priority list, and they weren't driven maniacally to 540 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: be the best they could possibly be, we would have 541 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: discussions about it. But for Trevor, all of a sudden, 542 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: it's like it's not allowed. You can't you can't say 543 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: anything about him. Look at what he's done. And it 544 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: wasn't me. I wasn't trying to disparage the guy and 545 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to criticize it. I was just raising 546 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: the question of, Okay, well, how would we react to 547 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: other people had they said this kind of thing, or 548 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: people around them who know them very well, I'd said 549 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: this kind of thing, But the game is different. This 550 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: is the first time he's been critiqued next only on 551 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: the field or off the field. But it's not a coincidence, though, 552 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: Lewis that you look at some of the great quarterbacks 553 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: of all time and they have a chip on their shoulder. 554 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: Montana taken in the third round, Marino went all the 555 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: way at the end of the first round, Aaron Rodgers 556 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: all the way at the first round. Mahomes got passed up, 557 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Drew Brees got passed go down the list. I mean, Peyton, 558 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: Peyton was not like you know, he was taking number 559 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 1: one overall, unless he says, well, I should have won 560 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: the Heisman, like you created chip if you don't have 561 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: a chip, Lord knows. Brady certainly is still working on 562 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: that chip. Sure, but I don't think it's a coincidence 563 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: that these guys who have been successful, you know, had 564 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder. Sure, look, I think again, 565 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting it's interesting that you know, we 566 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: you know a lot of the conversations surrounding the draft 567 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: is about Colle Shanahan and San Francisco. The guy who 568 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: articulated it in the most real way from a coaching 569 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: perspective to me about what they thought really built the 570 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: kind of culture that's a winning, sustainable culture in the 571 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: NFL was Kyle Shanahan. And he said this, you know, 572 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: when we were talking to him on Monday and night 573 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: football production meetings. He said, once you get enough guys 574 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: who realize how hard this game is and really kind 575 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: of intrinsically the number one thing that they need is 576 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: this game. This game is everything to them and they're 577 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: willing to give everything they possibly can to it. And 578 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: you have enough of those guys who kind of buy 579 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: into that kind of culture, that's when you're able to 580 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: do real, real special things. And he loved the culture 581 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: of his football team because of that, because it was 582 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: that way. And he said he himself was that way 583 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: and he figured that out, you know, during the during 584 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: the pandemic last year, where for the first couple of 585 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: weeks he said it was cool that you know, he 586 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: could play some golf and he would be around his 587 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: family and all that he said, But you know, over 588 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: time it was like, I need this game, I need 589 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: to be around the guys. I need to be coaching, 590 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: I need to be game planning, because that's who I him, 591 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: and that's what I want to do. And all those 592 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 1: guys who you talk about, and you're right, all the 593 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: greats who we all love and we all revere, they 594 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: had that maniacal passion and love for the game to 595 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: where nothing stood in their way when it came to 596 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: trying to be one of the greats of all time. 597 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: And that all I was saying was that's what's gonna 598 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: be expected at Trevor, both because he's going number one 599 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: overall and because every step of the way, that's what's 600 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: happened to him. He's been the best guy on the field. 601 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: Well now he's not gonna necessarily be the best guy 602 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: on the field anymore. There's gonna be a plenty of guys, 603 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be plenty of teams that go up 604 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: against that. They're gonna feel like Wake Forrest, They're gonna 605 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: feel like Boston College against Clempton, and they're gonna feel like, Okay, 606 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: we still have a little bit of a ways to 607 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: go to build out our program. Now, how are you 608 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: gonna respond to that? And how you're gonna motivate everyone 609 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: else around that? And you know what, I'm gonna bet 610 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: on the fact that he's going to anyway simply because 611 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: the guy is special. I believe the guy is special. 612 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Just it was this surprising to hear someone be so 613 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: honest about something like that in a day and age 614 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: where you know, this game is hard. Man, it's just hard. 615 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: At the NFL level, it's very different. And I know 616 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: that firsthand. It's different. See, I was more concerned that 617 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: he said it, not that he thought it. That he 618 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: said it. Yeah, you know what it takes. You know, well, 619 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: there there's there's plenty of people who also at the 620 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: same time Dan were like praising him for saying it, 621 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: saying it that it was it reflected awareness and maturity 622 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: and comforted his own standard. Maybe it does. Wait a minute, 623 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: if if if Zach Wilson said, let's say Sam Darnold 624 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: came out and said that, oh well that's what that was, 625 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: why would crush Sam Darnold difference? That was exactly my point. 626 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: We would apply a different standard to those individuals and 627 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: say Hey, wait a second, Oh, red flag here, red 628 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: flag red. 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Listen to All Ball with Doug Gotlieb on 642 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, orherever you get your podcast. 643 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: While we were on vacation, Michael Rosenberger's Sports Illustrated Senior 644 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: writer profile Trevor Lawrence The Unrivaled Arrival of Trevor Lawrence 645 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: and All of a Sudden. There were some quotes pulled 646 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: from that questioning how much he loved football and awards 647 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: and all of that. While Trevor Lawrence was getting married 648 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: this weekend, so Michael Rosenberg kind enough to join us. 649 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: Michael preconceived feelings, ideas notions about Trevor Lawrence were what 650 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: going into that profile, basically just that he was really 651 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: good at football. You know, I was looking and there 652 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: were bits and pieces, but yeah, he's still so young. 653 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I really knew him. And at 654 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: some point in the course of reporting, and I don't 655 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: even remember where it started, I started to get this 656 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: sense that he was just kind of wired a little different. 657 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: And it was one of the first questions I asked 658 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: him and he's like, oh, yeah, I don't have that 659 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: chip on my shoulder. And having been around the NFL 660 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: for a long time, I walked out of there going, 661 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: is this guy really going to be the first pick? 662 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's just who he is. And I brought 663 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: this up to Lewis Reddick last hour. I said, you know, 664 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence their quarterbacks who love having that 665 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: chip on their shoulder that they'll carry it with them 666 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: their entire careers. The quarterback I remember who didn't have 667 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder. It felt like it was 668 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. And Andrew Luck checked out at age twenty nine, 669 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: decided he was not going to play anymore. So I 670 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: don't know if there's a there there, but I do 671 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: think that it caught my attention that he said it. 672 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: You might think it, but it's another thing to say it, Michael, 673 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: it is. And I kind of went through it with Trevor. 674 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: I was like, because I said, people can take this 675 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: the wrong way. He said, yeah, I know, oh okay, 676 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: but that says he knew he knew that that would 677 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew the level of it. 678 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: So you warned him in the moment I did, and 679 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: after I just said this is what it is, and yeah, 680 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: and it's in the story, like he knows this is 681 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: going to be twisted. Because I think that says something 682 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: about him too that kind of reinforces how he is 683 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: that he knew that there would be some blowback and 684 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: he wasn't worried about that either. You know, he's not 685 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: trying to shape the image. He's pretty comfortable with who 686 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: he is. So I found that very endearing. What that 687 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: means for him in the long term. I guess we'll 688 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: see how much time did you spend with him. I 689 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: had about an hour plus the photoshooting, video shoot, and 690 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: then a few questions afterwards. Anything stand out aside from 691 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: those quotes, you know, I think what I took away 692 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: from it as much as anything, was he's very smart. 693 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: He's he's very comfortable with himself, and he's very comfortable 694 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: questioning things. You know. He has such sort of a 695 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: simple image of this guy who was just number one recruit, 696 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: number one pick, marrying his high school girlfriend, very religious, 697 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: and he's a lot deeper and more thoughtful and more inquisitive. 698 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: I think then maybe it has been out there and 699 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: between he and Marissa, the dynamic there, you really got 700 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: the sense these are kind of two equal partners. It's 701 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: not just it's not just the quarterback and his pretty 702 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: high school girlfriend. I mean, these are life partners. So 703 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of depth there. It's kind of funny 704 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: to me that this is all blown up, because I 705 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: feel like anybody questioning him right now, if they spend 706 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: ten minutes with him would walk away and be like, 707 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: what a great guy. I'd love to have that guy 708 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: in my team. So I don't think that Jaguars should 709 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: be all that concerned. But That was just my take. 710 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: But you know how it works though, Michael. This you 711 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: know time of the year leading up to the draft, 712 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: he's been spotless. I mean, nobody's critiqued him. We just 713 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: sort of said, well, that's Trevor Lawrence. He's in a 714 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: different category. Now you can bring Trevor Lawrence back into mainstream, 715 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, sports world. And I think it was the 716 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: timing of it more than anything else. But also that 717 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: what stood out to me was when you talked about 718 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: him getting married at such a young age and that 719 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: there are probably people who were critical of that going 720 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: into this profession. Yeah, and he said that too. He's like, 721 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: people say, and people say, what are you doing getting married? 722 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, they just come up and say that to you. 723 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, he kind of can't believe it himself. 724 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: It's pretty rude, but he was like, what am I 725 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: going to do? I'm not going to wait. I know 726 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: who I want to marry, and I'm going to get married. 727 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: So there is a confidence there that that's not it's 728 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: not brash, you know, it's not that Johnny Manzille thing. 729 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: It's not the Baker Mayfield. You know. I woke up 730 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: feeling dangerous. It's just and he knows how good he 731 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: is too. You know, did you interview manziel I have 732 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: not never interviewed Johnny manziel I was waiting for him 733 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: to reach his second year as a start earlier. It's 734 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: weird now if you said, hey, your daughter is bringing 735 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: home this person, not this is what he does for 736 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: a living, this person, he would probably check all the 737 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: boxes here. But it feels like in today's world, you know, 738 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: we're like, I don't know, I'm a little skeptical here. Yeah, 739 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: well it's true and and and if you think of 740 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: all the reasons guys fail, you know, marrying young and 741 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: wanting to be with that person is not usually behind 742 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: in the list. So it is different. But um, I 743 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: guess my takeaway from it like this, is there a 744 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: danger that that that he gets beaten up and retires 745 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: like Andrew Luck died early with the Colts? You know, 746 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: do they regret taking a phenomenal quarterback? No? I mean 747 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: I think there's a risk with every single guy in 748 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: the draft. I think Trevor Lawrens's risk is different from most, 749 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: but still smaller than just about everybody else. Have you 750 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: followed up with him since the quote unquote controversy, I 751 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: have not. I mean, he didn't get married. I will 752 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: do that with the family this week. And nobody has 753 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: said anything negative about the story. Even when he tweeted 754 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: this weekend it was some people are misreading my comments. 755 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: You know. He had initially, for whatever it's worth, shared 756 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: the story on social media before it blew up. So 757 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: I don't know what they think. I can't speak for them. 758 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: Are we taking anything out of context? I'm sure you're not, damn, 759 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: But I think I mean a little bit. I've seen. 760 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: I've seen. I've seen the poll quotes of you know, 761 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't need the Super Bowl to be happy, and 762 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: of course people jump on that. If you read the story, 763 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,479 Speaker 1: it's different. I mean, there's never been a question about 764 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: this guy's work ethic, you know, And this is I 765 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: guess the best way I could sum it up. Doesn't 766 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: go when you lose a game, it doesn't keep him 767 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: up at night, But wanting to win does get him 768 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: up in the morning. So that's different. I mean, that's 769 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: different from Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Drew Brees 770 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: and all these guys. But as long as he gets 771 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: up in the morning wanting to win those games, and 772 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: wanting to go to the facility and wanting to watch film, 773 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: and wanting to play through injuries and everything is required 774 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: of an NFL quarterback. As long as he does that, 775 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: who really cares if he goes home and starts smashing things, 776 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 1: we lose the game. You're forever intertwined with Trevor Lawrence 777 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: because these quotes, good or bad, are going to stand 778 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: out ten years from now when I have you on 779 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: and go, Michael, can you believe we made a big 780 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: deal over this? Or Hey Michael, we were onto something. 781 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: I might be forever intertwined with him, but I don't 782 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: think he's ever intertwined with me. Great job, Michael. Great 783 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: to talk to you again, and thanks for joining us. 784 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Thanks so much.