1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Friday 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Would encourage you as always go 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast. You can search out my name 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, you can search out Buck Sexton. 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: It is now a podcast network. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: We have both Tutor Dixon and Carol Markowitz who are 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: doing fabulous podcast and they are distributed under the umbrella 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: of the Clay Travis buck Sexton Network. 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Gavin Newsom Buck we talked about 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: the Biden address an hour one and we talked about 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: the impact of the ongoing Israel War as it gets 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: ramped up even more against Gaza, the hostages that are involved. 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, California's governor, would be presidential candidate in the 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: event that Joe Biden somehow stepped down or there was 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: some sort of health of related condition. There's zero doubt 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: that Gavin Newsom considers himself to be presidential timber, and 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: he is now going to Israel to see things for 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: himself there. But this is a fabulous work that the 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal editorial page did, and this was up 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: and is in the newspaper today and the headline Buck, 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: and I've not seen this anywhere else, but I thought 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: it was so incredibly well done. We've talked a lot 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: about in many ways DeSantis and Newsome Florida and California 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: representing two divergent paths for the country. And in Florida, 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: I saw this yesterday. The state of Florida now has 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty thousand more Republicans. You are one 33 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: of them, Buck, who has moved to Florida than than 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: there are Democrats. And what's extraordinary about this is at 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: the time when Ron DeSantis took over as governor of Florida, 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: there were two hundred and fifty thousand more registered Democrats there. Yesterday, 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I was having drinks with one of my college friends 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: who's from Miami, and as we were sitting there, he said, 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: I would have never believed that Florida would become a 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: legit red state. But it's as if now Democrats are 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: just not even going to be able to compete there. 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: And for those of us out there who remember two 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: thousand in Bush v. Gore, and you remember all the 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: elections where people would look and stand in front of 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: the map of Florida and break it down. And as 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Florida went, so went the nation. It's now a red state. 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of that credit goes to 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis, who you will remember, only one in twenty 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: eighteen by thirty thousand votes buck in what might have 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: been the most consequential governor's election of our lives. 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 2: He switched the Democrat advantage in registration from a Democrat 52 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: advantage of plus two hundred and fifty thousand registered voters 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: in Florida to. 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Six fifty now, so he's flipped it by nearly a 55 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: million by the time we get to twenty twenty hundred 56 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand more Republicans registered in pretty great. That's 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: a that's a near miraculous Yeah, that's right. 58 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: So the data just came out on twenty twenty two. Crime. 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: This is from the FBI, and the headline is okay, 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: violent crime dipped a little bit, which is a positive thing. 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: But they said, hey, let's look at the individual state 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: data and this this stat blew my mind. And I 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: would imagine November thirtieth, when DeSantis and Gavin Newsom are 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: going to debate, this will come up. In California, violent 65 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: crime is up thirteen percent overall since twenty nineteen, it's 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: come back down a little bit of nineteen percent. In Florida, 67 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: buck violent crime since twenty nineteen is down thirty one 68 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: point five percent. And here kind of brings it home. 69 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: Rate of violent crime in California four hundred and ninety 70 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: nine point five incidents per one hundred thousand people, nearly 71 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: double the rate of violent crime in Florida at two 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty. 73 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: Eight point nine. 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: And what is amazing about all of this is it's 75 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: gotten almost no attention. And you can go look at 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: the graphics yourself and maybe we'll share this link to 77 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: this article from the from the Wall Street Journal, But 78 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm showing you this graphic right here. 79 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: You got it in front of you. 80 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: This seems like it should be a briefig story, right 81 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: because not only COVID, it's also the safety of the 82 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: people in the States. 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: Well, what's fascinating to me is they they even get 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: into how sometimes the stats absent some context, can be 85 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: a little bit misleading. And what I mean is they'll 86 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: talk about property crime, for example, and how property crime 87 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: maybe has been decreasing, like Larsen is declining in California 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen. They talked about that. So this is 89 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: something that Gavin Dows some would be like, Hey, guess what, Yeah, 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: my state's amazing. 91 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: We have lots of vineyards, plus property climb. Property crime 92 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: is declining, And you'd say, oh, wow, he's so slick. 93 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: He must know something we don't know. One of the 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: reasons it's declining, or the primary reason it's declining, is 95 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: because no one reports it and police don't do anything 96 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: about it. So it's a way that the stats are 97 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 3: actually misleading because they've effectively decriminalized any theft of less 98 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: than nine hundred and fifty dollars. Police don't arrest the thieves, 99 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: and because they don't arrest the thieves, there's no paperwork trail. 100 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: A the theft. So the way that they think about this, 101 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: California shows a decrease in property crime at a time 102 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: when major businesses, you know, major like commercial institutions, whether 103 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: it's a whole foods or whatever in places like San 104 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: Francisco are shutting down because of rampant property crime. And 105 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: the reason is there is so much property crime that 106 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: they don't even do anything about it anymore. That's how 107 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: bad it's gotten. So I think that's an interesting statistical 108 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: reality that you have to get into the stats a 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: little bit to see that. 110 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what's wild about this is, again, this is 111 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: not COVID related necessarily, because I think the data quite 112 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: clearly reflects, as we've talked about for a long time, 113 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: that DeSantis did the best job handling COVID of any 114 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: big state governor in the country. But I also think 115 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: these things are interconnected. It's staggering to me that this 116 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: isn't getting more attention. You live in Florida. We're in Washington, 117 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: d C. Right now, where the crime rate, violent crime 118 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: rate is through the roof, the amount of carjackings that 119 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: are going on. We just had a congressman get carjacked. 120 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: And all these cities, whether it's Atlanta, whether it's New 121 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: York City, whether it's Washington, d C. Philadelphia, San Francisco, 122 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: La they're all Portland, certainly Seattle, they're all Democrat run 123 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: and they're completely falling apart. But the rate of violent 124 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: crime is not rising everywhere equally. Again, to be down 125 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: over thirty percent in Florida since twenty nineteen is an 126 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: extraordinary accomplishment. I know there's tons of you in Florida 127 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: listening to us right now, whether it's Orlando or Tampa 128 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: or Miami or Jacksonville. And you feel this right because 129 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: you're more comfortable being out if you're going out to 130 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: a movie, if you're going out to a late dinner 131 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: and you're walking back to your car. There are many 132 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: cities where people feel very, very uncomfortable. All over the 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: state of Florida. Things have gotten better. And they tried 134 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: to lie and say, oh, this was all George Floyd 135 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: COVID is all COVID related. Is actually because they decided 136 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: to try to defund the police and Florida didn't play 137 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: that game, and the result is people are safer and 138 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: the state is flourishing well. 139 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: What it really also comes down to is the what 140 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: kind of prosecutors do you have? What kind of pressure 141 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: can the governor of the state put on those proceects. Remember, 142 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis has removed prosecutors who refuse to prosecute crime basics, 143 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: refuse to really be serious about it. The prosecutors who 144 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: won't put people in prison. So you look at what 145 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: are the prosecutors willing to do. You look at what 146 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: are the state laws and how are they actually are 147 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: they enforced? Have they been changed to accommodate criminals? And 148 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: then another important component this ties right into the prosecutor issue. 149 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: Do they lock up people who are clearly a danger 150 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: to public safety and or career criminals? Right? You know, 151 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: it's it's really not that hard. We all understand. I mean, 152 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: even like Sidney Powell just pleaded guilty under a first 153 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: defender law. First offender, if it's your first time on 154 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: the wrong side of the law, you know, unlets's it's 155 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: talking about murder or something. But if your first defender 156 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: or on the wrong side of all, yeah, of course 157 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: you should, you know, be given a little extra consideration. 158 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: People should be given a second chance, especially for something 159 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: it's like a property crime or whatever. But we're talking 160 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: about people that arrested fifty times a hundred of time. 161 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: We're talking to people that have assaulted people bro you know, 162 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean you think about uh, you know, the Daniel 163 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: Penny pace in New York, the guy who Daniel Penny 164 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: choked and unfortunately died as a result of that incident. 165 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: That guy had you know, shattered some uh some woman's 166 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: eye socket for no reason on the subject. His puncher 167 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: in the face had a long rap sheet. You know, 168 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: these are the kinds of things when you when a society, 169 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: when a state, we can say it more specifically tolerates violence, anarchy, 170 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: and and rampant criminality, it gets more of it when 171 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: a society says we're not going to allow that. If 172 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: you're clearly unwilling to play by the rules as and 173 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: obey the laws, you're going to be taken out of 174 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: society and incarcerated for lengthy periods of time. It has 175 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: a major effect. And you know, if this continues on, 176 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: I really do think you're going to see that the wealth, 177 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 2: i mean, the flight of wealth and people from the 178 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: from these Blue states is going to really have an 179 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: impact on the state budgets. I mean, you know, New 180 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: York has the migrant problem, it also has the high 181 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: California same thing, high earners leaving because they don't want 182 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: to deal with the criminality alongside the super high taxes. 183 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: And I know of what I speak on this one. 184 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, the whole idea you would think of 185 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: having fifty state individual governments to be run from a 186 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: federalism perspective is wouldn't you think that everybody would be 187 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: looking at Florida if we had a rational republic and saying, okay, 188 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: let's just do what they did so we can decrease 189 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: overall crime by over thirty percent. I mean, I mean, 190 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: if we had a legitimate functioning government as opposed to 191 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: people who are just angry. Whenever somebody like the Santus 192 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: is successful, every governor should be looking at it and say, okay, 193 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: what did Florida do to reduce violent crime by thirty percent? 194 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: Instead, what you have is a prosecutor like Alvin Bragg 195 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: in New York City or any Soros back prosecutor. Oh, 196 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: who's the guy at Larry Krasner and Philadelphia. They will 197 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: look at the incarcerated population. The incarcerated population of New 198 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: York City's prison, which is Riker's Island, is ninety percent minority. 199 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: And they will look at that, and you know what, 200 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: they say, It's racist. Yeah, and so they just decide 201 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: the way to handle that is to prosecute fewer people 202 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: and incarcerate fewer people's. That is basically the process as 203 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: the Soros prosecutors, that is their version of social justice. 204 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: The demographics in the prisons are evidence of racism in 205 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: depending on the city and where you're talking about. But 206 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: in New York City therefore, fewer prosecutions, less incarceration, that's 207 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: the answer. Well, what you get is more crime, and 208 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: you know who's having to deal with that crime, minorities. 209 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: It's actually racist, I think to force people to deal 210 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: with violent crimes. The people in the high crime neighborhoods 211 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: are predominantly minorities who want to lead you know, lawful, 212 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: safe and decent lives. But the Soro's prosecutors, you know, 213 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: they want a virtue signal. Just what is Florida done 214 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: on violent crime? 215 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: Everybody should be studying it and try to replicate it, 216 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: just like they did in New York City back in 217 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: the day when Rudy Giuliani drove down the overall rate 218 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: of crime and everybody copied it. 219 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: Look everything out there. 220 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: If you've got boxes and envelopes full of old pictures, 221 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: do yourself a favor. Digitize them now before they start 222 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: to fade and lose their color. 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Legacy box dot com slash 240 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: Clay helping you separate truth from fiction every single weekday, 241 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 242 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: But a big part of this is also on the 243 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: US side. The funding that is being requested right now, 244 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: it's very interesting. Joe Biden is expected to request from 245 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: Congress one hundred billion dollars in emergency funding. One hundred 246 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: billion dollars. Now, this is for Israel, for Ukraine and 247 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: other crises. Here you go, this is the New York 248 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: Times supporting He's gonna ask for one hundred billion for Israel, Ukraine, 249 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: fortifying the US Mexico border, and Taiwan. Now, Clay, you 250 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: look at this and you say, there are two things 251 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: that I think we have to dive into that are 252 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: going on here with this emergency funding a request. First 253 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: of all, one hundred billion dollars, even for the government 254 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: is a lot of money, yes, right, Like we all 255 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: still live in a world where we understand when you're 256 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: almost you know, thirty four trillion into I think it's 257 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: thirty three trillion right now. Just throwing another one hundred 258 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: billion on the pile feels like it's it's a meaningful ask. 259 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: But beyond that, why is he putting all these things? So, 260 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: first off, it's just a lot of money, yes, and 261 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: we're not losing that side of that. But second of all, 262 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: why push all these things together? What is the Israelrain Taiwan? 263 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: I mean, fortifying the US Mexico border, you could put 264 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: I mean I never need to understand this, and I 265 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: don't want to get to the Ukraine part of this guy, 266 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: because that's obviously the biggest thing. You could put a 267 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: in A electrified fences, a moat with alligators, you know, 268 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: tower like guard towers every hundred yards. You can fortify 269 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: the board as much as you want, as long as 270 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: the interpretation of US law from the administration is that 271 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: anyone can show up, wave their hand and say I 272 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: request asylum, and then they have to be processed as 273 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: an asylum seeker. Even if they enter into the country illegally. 274 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: None of that matters. It doesn't stop them because they 275 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: can walk up to the fence. I mean they have 276 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: to avoid the alligators in this ridiculous analogy, But they 277 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: can walk up to the fence, they wave down border 278 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: patrol and they say, hey, you know here, I am. 279 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: I want asylum. So it doesn't matter how much you 280 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: have in the way of resources, as long as it 281 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: is physically possible for someone to walk across the port 282 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: of entry, walk across the US border anywhere. That's going 283 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: to continue. But tying together Israel and Ukraine funding clay, 284 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: they just want more money for Ukraine. Man. You know, 285 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: that's the part of this that seems so obvious to me. 286 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: They want a big funding pack. They're using this moment 287 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: where Israel isn't you know, there's a tremendous emotional outpouring 288 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: of connection Israel. But they're using the Israel issue to 289 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: get a lot of funding into Ukraine, is what I see. 290 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's what I would say, So, yeah, I 291 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: think you hit some of this. Sixty one point four 292 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: billion for Ukraine, sixty one point four billion, fourteen point 293 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: three billion for Israel, including nine point one five billion 294 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: in funding for humanitarian aid so between. So let's just 295 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: let's pause here for Israel for a sec buck. My 296 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: takeaway on this is, if we're giving a dollar to 297 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: the Palestinians of our taxpayer money, I'm opposed to it. 298 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: I think the precedent, I think this should be the 299 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Republican position. Win a group harbors a terror group that 300 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: has just murdered in cold blood fourteen hundred Israelis. I 301 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: don't know about you, and I don't know about every 302 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: other person out there listening right now, but I don't 303 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: want one red cent of my taxpayer dollars going to 304 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: Palestine at all. So I would demand if I were 305 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: the Republicans, I I want this Israel money broken down. 306 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: If you want to give money to Israel to help 307 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: defend themselves from terror attacks, I mean, I think that 308 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: is a very valid idea. I understand some of you 309 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: are going to say, I don't want to even spend 310 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: a dollar or a red scent on any other country 311 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: right now. We got all the issues in our country, 312 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: and I understand that argument. But the idea that we 313 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: would give anything to Hamas, the idea that we would 314 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: give anything to the Palestinians in Gaza after they just 315 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: unleashed one of the biggest terror attacks of all time, 316 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: to me, is indefensible. 317 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: Not to mention one hundred billion. 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We've 336 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: been talking obviously a great deal all week long about 337 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: the Israeli response to the Hamas terror attack, and we 338 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: bring in now David Afoon of the New York Sun, 339 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: who we've had on to talk about this situation in general. 340 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: And I want to start with this question. Thanks for 341 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: coming with us, joining us here on this Friday. Why 342 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: do you think we aren't talking more in the media 343 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: both in the United States, and I would argue around 344 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: the world about the hostages here, particularly in America, because 345 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: we know some of those hostages are American. It seems 346 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: to me that should be one of the primary topics 347 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: of conversation. There's almost no discussion about that. Why do 348 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: you think it is? 349 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a great question, a very important question. 350 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: I mean, certainly in Israel that is top of mind, 351 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 4: and it is the center point of the discussion. I think, 352 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: you know, I would even go a step further. You know, 353 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 4: it does seem that, you know, in the wake of this, 354 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: you know, horrendous terror attack, massacre of Jewish people since 355 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 4: the Holocaust, there was you know, about two or three 356 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: days of sympathy and interest from the international press, and 357 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: you know, all of the attention now is on the 358 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: situation in Gaza, and you know, it's just quite something 359 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 4: to see. I mean, take for example, this morning, Greta Thumberg, 360 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: who has posted three tweets since October seventh. Nothing to 361 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: say about the Israeli children that were butchered, nothing to 362 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 4: say about the hostages, nothing to say about Israeli hostages, 363 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: including a nine month old baby, nothing to say about 364 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 4: American hostages, and there are hostages from other countries as well. 365 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: You know, she's calling for a seat fire, justice and 366 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 4: freedom from Palestinians. So you know, it's hard to escape 367 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 4: the feeling, hard to escape the view that a lot 368 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: of people just don't care, you know, when it comes 369 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 4: to the Jewish state, when it comes to Jewish people 370 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: being targeted. Another great example is the strike that we 371 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: saw this week, or the blast at a hospital in Gaza, 372 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: initially Harmasros claiming that it was conducted by the Israeli 373 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 4: Air Force. Israel immediately released intelligence information, highly classified intelligence information, 374 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: including satellite footage recordings, video imagery, showing that this hospital 375 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: was hit by a missfire Palestinian Islamic g Had Brocket, 376 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the outrage, the condemnation was gone. 377 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 4: Suddenly nobody was outraged, nobody had condemnations for Islamic g Had. 378 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 4: The second it was clear that this was something that 379 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: could not be blamed on the Jewish state. You know, 380 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: radio silence from from all of the great humanitarians around 381 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 4: the world. 382 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: There's now been many days where we described the imminence 383 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: Israeli you know, IDF invasion, incursion, military operation into Gaza. 384 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: What do you think that is the delay just a 385 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: question of trying to gather the utmost intelligence. Is there 386 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: any sense inside of Israel that there's some option that 387 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: could be pursued other than a major military response, you know, effectively? 388 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: What is the cause in your mind of the of 389 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: the waiting we're going through right now. 390 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's a really good question. It could be, 391 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: but I hope it isn't a product of pressure being 392 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 4: placed on the Israeli government by the United States and 393 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: others against moving in. Certainly, as Bola has said that 394 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 4: they would launch and all out as sail from the 395 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 4: north if israel growth goes in. But I think, you know, 396 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 4: everybody in Israel's military establishment understands that this is different, 397 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: and the only way to secure that border, to ensure 398 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 4: and stand by a promise to the Israeli people that 399 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: something like this could never happen again, is to take 400 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: that territory. You know. I think I mentioned this in 401 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 4: the last show. But interestingly, before Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin 402 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 4: Niahu started his career in politics, he had a career 403 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: as a anti terrorism expert. You know, his brother Yoni 404 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: was killed in nineteen seventy six and during the famous 405 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: in Tebbi Ray, which was a counter terrorism operation, and 406 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: that inspired the young Prime Minister to focus on the 407 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: question of fighting terrorism and how democracies can fight terrorism. 408 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: And you know, one of the first books that he 409 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 4: publishes called Fighting Terrorism, and you know, one of the 410 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 4: recurring themes in this book is this idea that you know, 411 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 4: democracies can effectively come back terrorism as long as the 412 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 4: terrorists do not control territory. You know, if there is 413 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 4: terrorism within a democracy, they're always on the run. Law enforcement, counterintelligence, 414 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: counter terrorism intelligence will keep them on the run, will 415 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: keep them hiding, and you know, their capacity to cause 416 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: damage will remain limited. But when they control territory is 417 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: when they're at the most dangerous And we know nine 418 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: to eleven happened when al Cata was free to develop resources, 419 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: plan and operate freely in Afghanistan. Obviously, some of the 420 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: worst terror attacks against European targets took place when isis 421 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: controlled territory in northern Syria. And now you have a 422 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: situation where surrounding Israel on three of its borders are 423 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 4: these sort of many terrast states that have the capacity 424 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 4: to launch these kind of you know, really really devastating 425 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: assault to the tax on the church population and Israel's population. 426 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: Both those are what we saw over the last couple 427 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 4: of weeks, but also firing rockets and hundreds of thousands 428 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 4: of them now that they that they have, that can 429 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: really brings ready economic to stand still and inflict a 430 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: great deal of damage. So the Israelis know that the 431 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 4: key to their security is holding land. The question is, 432 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: you know whether they're going to go back to that 433 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: and how far they're going to be willing to go 434 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 4: in order to achieve that security, both in Lebanon potentially 435 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 4: if that front opens up, but certainly in Kaza. 436 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: Dovid. 437 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: One of the things we've seen is, for better or worse, 438 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: American interest doesn't last forever when there are non American 439 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: related entities right directly involved. And I'm just pointing to 440 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: you Ukraine now, where if you remember, everybody cared about Ukraine. 441 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: Every left winger, it felt like, had the Ukraine flag 442 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: and their profile picture. There were Ukraine flags up all 443 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: over the United States. And then you can kind of look, 444 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: most people don't really seem to care that much about 445 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: Ukraine now, and I think Zelensky's even afraid about that, 446 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: and there's going to be a legit battle now over 447 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden trying to get over sixty billion dollars in 448 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: additional funding for Ukraine. Then the reason why I asked 449 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: that question is do you have a sense And I 450 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: know it's early, but how long do you think this 451 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: is going on? Ukraine has entered into a stalemate where 452 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: basically neither side is moving very much? What do you 453 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: think the time frame is for Israel as it pertains 454 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: to this Gaza front and obviously depends on how many 455 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: other countries might get involved, But if it's just Gaza, 456 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? In six months? Are 457 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: things back to a state of comparative normalcy? 458 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 2: Is it a year? Is it less than that? How 459 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: would you assess the timeframe? 460 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 4: Well, looks to two points that that would make on 461 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 4: this score. I mean, first of all, you know, I 462 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: understand and you know appreciate it. Concerned a lot of 463 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: Americans have, especially at the time when you know inflations 464 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 4: through the roof, a lot of people are having difficulty 465 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 4: putting food on the table and paying their basic expenses. 466 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 4: You know, over the costs of American support for you know, 467 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: any kind of foreign activity. But I do want to 468 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: stay and I think this is important that the question 469 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: of how much blood and treasure America should commit to 470 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 4: anything that's happening around the world is different from the 471 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 4: question of whose side are we on, you know, and 472 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: who is right and who is wrong? And even Americans 473 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 4: and public figures who are saying, well, we can't afford 474 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 4: this right now. You know, that can be a debate. 475 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: That's a debate that you can have. But what's been 476 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 4: shocking to see is how that sort of translates into into, 477 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 4: you know, a sympathetic line for Hamas or a sympathetic 478 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: line for Russia. You know, we need to be clear 479 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: and Americans to be clear on who the good guys 480 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: and who the bad guys are. And if it's not money, 481 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 4: we can share intelligence. It doesn't cost much, but certainly 482 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: moral support. It's it's important for the Israelis to know 483 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: that they have the American people have that back. It's 484 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: important for the Ukrainians to know that the American people 485 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: have that back, that we as a country, as a 486 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: people are on the side of democracy, We're on the 487 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: side of freedom, and we're on the side of right 488 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 4: versus wrong. And that's separate from the question of, you know, 489 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 4: how much money we're the country has available to commit 490 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 4: to this or that theater. I mean, that's that's the 491 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: first point, the second point in terms of and that 492 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: should be permanent. I mean, that should go on forever. 493 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 4: You know, there should never be a wavering in America's 494 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: commitment to who's right in these in these conflicts, who's 495 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 4: on the right side and who's on the wrong side 496 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 4: of history in terms of in terms of the patients 497 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 4: and the capacity. I mean, look, you know things are 498 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 4: definitely bogged down in Russia and Ukraine. It's a very 499 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: different scenario with Israel. I mean, obviously the military is 500 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: overwhelmingly powerful. You know, it's not likely to be a 501 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: stale nate. You know, to to retake Gaza, which you 502 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 4: know it's is what it would take to really dismantle 503 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 4: harmas permanently. You know, it's something that can be done, 504 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 4: you know, probably four to eight weeks. I mean the 505 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 4: speed in which they perceive will have a lot to 506 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 4: do with how cautious they want to be in the process. 507 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's going to be a bloody battle. 508 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 4: It's going to be door to door. But you know, America, 509 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 4: you know, the relationship between America in Israel is very 510 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 4: different between relationship with the relationship between America and Ukraine. 511 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's that there are certain aid packages, 512 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: most of them are being spent in the in the 513 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 4: United States, and they're certainly, you know, a very strong, 514 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: you know, mutually beneficial arrangement on the intelligence level and 515 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: in terms of military development, et cetera. So, you know, 516 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: the Israeli people fight their own battles. They have done 517 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: from from from the beginning, and it's not what they're 518 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: asking from from the United States. What they need is 519 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: diplomatic cover, intelligence sharing and moral support for American people. 520 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: With America on the side of Israel, there's nothing that 521 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: they kind of get done. 522 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: Dovid, my friends who still work in the national security sphere, 523 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: you know, down here in d C. Their biggest concern 524 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 2: is that a second front opens with Hesbelah in the north, 525 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: and the thousands of rockets that Hesbela has are are 526 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: unleashed on the state of Israel while it's trying to 527 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: clean out the nest of Hamas terrorists in northern Gaza. 528 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: How how likely do you think that possibility is and 529 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: how do you assess Hesbelah's calculations about whether or not 530 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: they're going to try to open that second front. 531 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know it's it's it's certainly would 532 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: would make it, you know, a tougher scenario than it 533 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: is than it is right now. You know, certainly a 534 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: lot of the strategy is being conducted from Tehran, and 535 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: we know that has Bolla is an Iranian proxy. You know, 536 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: there'll be a calculation of risk in terms of what 537 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 4: the likely Israeli response is going to be and also 538 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 4: the Americans response. I mean, you have the American military 539 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: resources that have made their way down to the region 540 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 4: as a as a sign and as a warning. But 541 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 4: in terms of Israel's capacity to fight on two fronts, 542 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: I mean, Israel's mobilized three hundred and sixty thousand soldiers. 543 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: They have half a million soldiers that are now mobilized, 544 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: which you know, for a country of nine million people, 545 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 4: it's you know, it's six seven percent of the entire country. 546 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: I mean, you speak to people in the center of 547 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: Israel and they'll tell you there's just no men around, 548 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: there's no manner, and the entire country is mobilized. And 549 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: you know, this is a country that has fought existential 550 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: battles on a number of occasion. I mean, in nineteen 551 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: seventy three, in nineteen sixty seven, it was fighting on 552 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: the Syrian Front, it was fighting on the Egyptian Front, 553 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 4: it was fighting on the Jeuganian Front. Of nineteen forty eight, 554 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: when Israel's independence was first declared, they were fighting eight 555 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: different different arabaomies. So you know this isn't something new 556 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 4: to Israel. This is a country that is mobilized to 557 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: defend its borders, to defend its people. It's a country 558 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: that knows that you know, the entire the world's Jewish community, 559 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 4: the safety of the world Jewish community depends on its strength. 560 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: And you know you have a people and an army 561 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: that are motivated, that are fired up and ready to 562 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: do whatever it takes to defend the Jewish state and 563 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: to secure its borders. 564 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: Dovid, thanks very much. 565 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: Will likely touch base with you again as this process continues. 566 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: Have the best weekend they. 567 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 4: Can man anytime. 568 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: But who's there for families left behind when a service 569 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: member or first responder dies or is catastrophically injured in 570 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: the line of duty. 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Hope all of you are having a 594 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: good time as you get ready to roll into the weekend. 595 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: Some good news. 596 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure it was accurate, given that 597 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: we got so much craziness going on over in the 598 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Gaza region. We have had a two American hostages released. 599 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: By the way, we still don't know, at least I 600 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen the official number of how many American citizen 601 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: hostages are being held. But I want to share from 602 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: Trey yinst who does incredible work at Fox News. He's 603 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: been on the ground in Israel since all this started. 604 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: He tweeted more info on the release of the two 605 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: American hostages from Gaza, and I'm reading from his tweet. 606 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: A source with knowledge of the release confirmed to Fox 607 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: News the two American hostages are a mother and a daughter. 608 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: They were released on humanitarian grounds falling following Katari mediation efforts, 609 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: So this is certainly very good news. Again, a mom 610 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 1: and a daughter they have been handed over to the 611 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: Red Cross and are on their way out. 612 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: A source familiar. 613 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: With negotiations said, this is from CNN's Caitlin Collins. The 614 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 1: two American hostages have been handed over because the mother 615 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: is in poor health. That is a message a tweet 616 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: that was just sent from CNN as well. So both 617 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: CNN and Fox News reporting that a mom and a 618 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: daughter have been released. 619 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: That is very good news. 620 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: I would hope that this would redouble you just heard 621 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: us talking about it more American media attention at a 622 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: minimum on the American hostages to get them out. We 623 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: still don't know what that exact number of American hostages is, 624 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: but I wanted to share say mom and a daughter 625 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: being released and they are being released to the Red Cross. 626 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: So hopefully that can pressage further good news that could 627 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: come out, not only for the American hostages, but also 628 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: for the Israeli hostages. We believe there are roughly two 629 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: hundred hostages still being held by Hamas we still don't 630 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: know exactly what that number is. Also a small update 631 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: for you on the House speakers race. They are having 632 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: a closed ballot as to whether or not Jim Jordan 633 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: should remain as the potential Republican Speaker candidate. It does 634 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: not seem likely, at least right now, that there's going 635 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: to be any strong resolution of the Speaker's race as. 636 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 2: We go forward. 637 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: So we are going to be joined when we come 638 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: back at the top of the next hour by Denish Desuza. 639 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: He has got a new documentary out about the status 640 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: of the I would say American police State. 641 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: I think that's the name of the movie. 642 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 1: Basically that exists as it pertains to conservatives in this country, 643 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: and we will talk about, for instance, the arrest and 644 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: imprisonment of a guy for sharing a meme that was 645 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: not well received. Seven months in prison for that. Good 646 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: conversation coming with Denesh Densuza. Thanks for hanging out with 647 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: us on Friday.