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Speaker 1: UFOs two Ghosts and government cover ups. History is whiddled

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Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, and

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Speaker 1: just how they would react to this. So either way

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Speaker 1: that either way that NATO handles this, you know, of

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Speaker 1: course Moscow would react, so the protests might dissipate and

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Speaker 1: lead to peace, which would be ideal. Moscow might warn, however,

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Speaker 1: of impending genocide and fire up the protesters more. The

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Speaker 1: clashes could start to lead to violence, and then the

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Speaker 1: US would have a react and her NATO would have

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Speaker 1: a reaction, right yeah, and then that can lead you

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Speaker 1: all the way down to then Germany getting involved, to

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Speaker 1: other NATO countries getting involved. Uh. There, it's really crazy.

436
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Speaker 1: It just hops down to then there's war between Russia

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Speaker 1: and Estonia and ultimately NATO. Um then NATO invades parts

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Speaker 1: of Russia. I mean, it's crazy. It just goes through

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Speaker 1: all of these possible things to the limited nuclear war

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Speaker 1: that might happen with small tactic nukes. Uh. And it's

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Speaker 1: so much it's there's a lot of detail. We probably

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Speaker 1: won't be able to go into all of them, know,

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Speaker 1: you'll have to check it out. But then there there

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Speaker 1: will be a constant give and take of calculations that

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Speaker 1: would lead from a limited war. Uh And and this

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Speaker 1: looks at the possibilities of of large scale nuclear deployment,

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Speaker 1: one of the more dangerous things being that Russia could

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Speaker 1: deploy the dead hand system, or it could be triggered

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Speaker 1: weather by a mass of attack against the country, or

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Speaker 1: this also frightening, that Russia could lose control over its

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons and they could end up somewhere else, which

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about a little bit further. The end result

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Speaker 1: than being the possibility of a full on nuclear exchange

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Speaker 1: where um counter attacks and attacks leave much of the

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Speaker 1: world incredibly damaged and civilization as we know it is

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Speaker 1: is uh if not destroyed, profoundly damaged. Okay, So why

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Speaker 1: why all this tension? What gives? From the Russian point

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Speaker 1: of view, the US is attempting to establish a hedgemonty,

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Speaker 1: make Russia like a client state, beholden to Western institutions,

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Speaker 1: both the government kind and the corporate kind. But from

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Speaker 1: the Western perspective, bordering countries, Eastern European countries, NATO members,

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Speaker 1: and so on need to be protected from Russian expansionism.

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Speaker 1: And both sides have some valid points there. But the

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Speaker 1: single most dangerous possibility in this conflict is is the

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Speaker 1: one that everybody thinks of when you think of World

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Speaker 1: War three. Yeah, the nuclear option. The nuclear option is

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Speaker 1: the most dangerous one that currently exists on this planet.

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Speaker 1: And it's a it's a messed up in real possibility. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not a it's not as um apparent or inevitable

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Speaker 1: a possibility as some fearmongers would have us think. But

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. Of the countries that have nuclear weapons

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Speaker 1: openly have nuclear weapons openly, right, yeah, because it's such

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Speaker 1: a secret. But of the countries that do have nuclear

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Speaker 1: weapons admit having them. The US and Russia control n

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Speaker 1: cent of the world's nuclear arsenal, so they have all

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Speaker 1: of the big guns. Luckily, there's this. This was also

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Speaker 1: an article by the same writer, Max Fisher. There's a

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Speaker 1: political scientist named j ol Felder who estimated the probability

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Speaker 1: of war to be about eleven percent overall, with an

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Speaker 1: eighteen percent chance of either side using nuclear weapons if

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Speaker 1: war occurs, and there was only a two percent chance

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Speaker 1: that this nuclear war would occur between Russia and the US.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. We've

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Speaker 1: got a grizzly comparison there too. Yeah, just for comparison,

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Speaker 1: that is about twice the odds of you dying in

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Speaker 1: a car crash, but in this car crash, everybody's in

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Speaker 1: the car and everybody dies or many people die, the

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Speaker 1: vast majority. So that's that's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: high level look at Russian Of course, there's more there

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Speaker 1: that we could spend an entire podcast on. But let's shift,

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Speaker 1: or let's let's pivot as governments like to say, towards China,

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Speaker 1: the US, Japan, and some of the other Asian alliances

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Speaker 1: in that region. So there's this comes up all the time, Matt.

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Speaker 1: We've seen this for years. We did an earlier video

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Speaker 1: on whether China was colonizing Africa, and China is definitely

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Speaker 1: doing resource extraction there on a high, a large level. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you could argue, well, it's it's true that other

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Speaker 1: like larger companies are also doing resource extraction there too,

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Speaker 1: But this issue of China's rise is an emergent superpower

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Speaker 1: it's aimed to establish regional hegemony over East Asia comes

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00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: up again and again cyclically, and it's most controversial in

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Speaker 1: China's disputes right now. It's most controversial in China's disputes

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Speaker 1: over naval territory, right Yeah, you mentioned the South China

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Speaker 1: see and like, who who owns this? Does anyone own this?

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Speaker 1: Who has the right to put their military ships in

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Speaker 1: this space? And yeah, there's been and lots of conflict

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Speaker 1: with that over the years, a lot recently. And one

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Speaker 1: of the things we found in our video is that

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Speaker 1: it seems to be a popular belief, at least among

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Speaker 1: the Chinese citizenry that the and some of the officials

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Speaker 1: even that there there will be a necessary war between

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Speaker 1: the United States and China. Right the idea that the

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Speaker 1: US is hampering China's growth, cutting it off from trade opportunities,

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Speaker 1: seeking to contain the country's influence. This coincides with Chinese

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Speaker 1: R and D and investment in it's called asymmetrical warfare,

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Speaker 1: and and then forming bilateral relationships or strengthening bilateral relationships

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Speaker 1: with other countries outside of the US. And there there's

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Speaker 1: some great uh, there's some great information you can read

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Speaker 1: about this that I think it is fascinating but also

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Speaker 1: could be scary stuff if it ever gets used. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the things you you even noted in there

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Speaker 1: is that the a lot of the citizens that have

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Speaker 1: that opinion that this war will eventually be necessary believe

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Speaker 1: that China would be victorious. Right yeah, And that's because

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Speaker 1: the nature of war has fundamentally changed due to technological innovations.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the US, which vastly outspends every other country,

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Speaker 1: uh almost yeah, yeah on military endeavors. Uh, the the

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Speaker 1: US vastly outspends everyone, has the most expensive toys and

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Speaker 1: it has the biggest guns. But this does not mean

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Speaker 1: that such a military is invulnerable. So there's a quote

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Speaker 1: by a security analyst named Laura Horta, and Horta says

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Speaker 1: China has no illusions about its military inferiority visa VI

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Speaker 1: the US, and knows that the status is likely to

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Speaker 1: endure for at least two decades. As such, that's been

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Speaker 1: developing a full range of asymmetry strategies to deter the

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Speaker 1: US until it's military reaches maturity. China is, you know,

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Speaker 1: attempting to build carriers. Um, it's reverse engineering successfully several

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Speaker 1: different pieces of hardware and vehicles. Well, we see asymmetrical warfare.

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Speaker 1: What we mean is, why spend millions and millions and

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Speaker 1: millions and maybe billions of dollars of preparing a carrier

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Speaker 1: to fight a carrier versus carrier war when you could

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Speaker 1: just design some missiles that are faster than the reaction

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Speaker 1: time of the ships, right the defense of the ships,

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Speaker 1: or attack submarines or something, you can take them out exactly, yeah, surreptitiously. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: what China is working on is something that you will

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Speaker 1: often hear called uh area denial or act denial of access.

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Speaker 1: And this is just uh, this is just having stuff

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Speaker 1: set up in the vicinity, perhaps in the South China

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Speaker 1: Sea for uh, that would prevent any other, any approaching

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Speaker 1: force from getting close enough to attack the country. So this,

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Speaker 1: this would be a woefully costly thing in terms of

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Speaker 1: blood and treasure for both countries, neither if the US

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Speaker 1: invade or if whoever tried to invade China. Right yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the US currently sees control of the seas as

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Speaker 1: one of the country's biggest insurance policies for safety. Right.

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Speaker 1: But this, fortunately, this also just like Russian NATO, has

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Speaker 1: a lower chance of happening, but not not maybe for

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Speaker 1: the best reasons. It turns out that both the US

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Speaker 1: and China, if we're being candid, have some significant internal problems,

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Speaker 1: or at least things that would deter them from fighting

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Speaker 1: a war. Yes, so is dealing with several crippling problems

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Speaker 1: internally that they really they need to handle first before

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Speaker 1: they get into any of this world war stuff. Like

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Speaker 1: let's say, the the pollution problems in the cities there.

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Speaker 1: They're crippling, it's it's horrible. The citizen rees healthcare issue

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Speaker 1: is it's a pretty dire situation there right now. And

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Speaker 1: also the one child policy has had a huge effect,

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Speaker 1: huge effect on the population numbers there. Yeah, just to uh,

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Speaker 1: just a put a little bit of the environmental stuff

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Speaker 1: in perspective, The Atlantic had an article came out in

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Speaker 1: two thousand thir teena want to say, about twenty eight

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Speaker 1: thousand rivers in China that just disappeared. Yeah, that's not good.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as somewhat of an emerging economy, they're

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Speaker 1: having to use things like coal power burning cole and

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Speaker 1: a couple other, um, let's say, less than safe ways

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Speaker 1: to make energy right, right, and they're they're good things

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Speaker 1: to China does lead the world currently in solar energy

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Speaker 1: or solar power research, but the gender ratio of sex

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Speaker 1: ratio is still pretty skewed. Uh there were I think

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Speaker 1: it was something about like one hundred and twenty something

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Speaker 1: boys born for every one hundred girls nationwide. Recently that

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Speaker 1: has been lowering, but it's gonna be a while. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like a decade before it goes down to

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Speaker 1: something a little bit more um on on target. And

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's just a long term effect of that policy.

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Speaker 1: And uh this isn't even touching on the continuing debate

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Speaker 1: about the Chinese economy how right, like how corrupt or

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00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: not corrupt it is? Right? Uh So, speaking of problems,

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Speaker 1: let's switch to the US. The US is stretched thin

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Speaker 1: given the wars in Afghanistan or Rock and the continual

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Speaker 1: operations in various places around the world. Uh. Also, both

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Speaker 1: countries depend on one another economically. China has the power

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Speaker 1: to break the world's economy, uh so, or make it

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Speaker 1: if we want to be class half full people. So

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Speaker 1: they're kind of at a standoff here because China has

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Speaker 1: a lot of its UH finances tied up in US bonds, right,

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Speaker 1: and the US is dependent on China for a lot

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Speaker 1: of exports, so hopefully trade can save it. Hopefully it

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00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: is more advantageous for both actors in this scenario to

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Speaker 1: work together and trade things. However, and this is a

601
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Speaker 1: point that was made in a in a analysis from Yale. However,

602
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: in both World Wars of the previous century, Germany was

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Speaker 1: Britain's biggest trade partner until the war started, So both

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Speaker 1: are clearly aiming to establish themselves. Neither country once in

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Speaker 1: the war and are in and both are increasingly competing

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Speaker 1: for resources. Uh. China actually has done what I think

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Speaker 1: is is a not to be flip about it, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's pretty stylish move. Yeah, they're styling.

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Speaker 1: They're styling on it. Yeah, what are they doing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're going They're definitely going about in a weird way.

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Speaker 1: They're actually building islands, kind of like we heard about

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Speaker 1: in Dubai when they were building these much on a

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Speaker 1: much smaller scale, these artificial islands out there in the

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Speaker 1: world and the palm and that stuff. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: they're building islands to support the territorial claims of these

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Speaker 1: areas in the South China Sea. The Spratley Islands, I believe, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So this this is a huge uh, this is a

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Speaker 1: huge issue with China and the US and other countries

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Speaker 1: around there, like the Philippines has recently been engaged in

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Speaker 1: some ongoing tension with China about its expansion and its

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Speaker 1: claims regarding what what constitutes its territory versus international waters.

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Speaker 1: And this is a this is a very tense thing here.

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Speaker 1: So China is actually building these islands to say, no,

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Speaker 1: this is land. So given international law, this far off

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Speaker 1: from these islands, not the mainland is where it belongs

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Speaker 1: to our government. Yeah, you could just build one x

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Speaker 1: kilometers away from each other, then you own the whole ocean.

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Speaker 1: So we we also when we looked at this, uh,

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Speaker 1: it seems like the calculation about how or when a

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Speaker 1: war would begin with China in the US, it seems

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Speaker 1: to often depend on the just the current events of

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Speaker 1: the time, right, And you can see predictions about this

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Speaker 1: stuff that often can seem contradictory. One one person that

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Speaker 1: I would like to reference here is a guy named

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Speaker 1: George Friedman. He's a geopolitical scientist, and he wrote a

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Speaker 1: book called The Next one hundred Years where he said

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Speaker 1: that there's going to be a um a fragmentation in China,

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Speaker 1: weakening of Russia, Japan will emerge as more powerful thing,

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Speaker 1: Turkey will emerge, and that eventually what's going to happen

640
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Speaker 1: is that there would be a world war or fight

641
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Speaker 1: for world uh world power, right, superpower status in twenty

642
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Speaker 1: fifty you can you can check out this analysis online.

643
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Speaker 1: Just check for the next one hundred years. But there's

644
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Speaker 1: one other place that we haven't talked about, which we're

645
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: going to probably need to save for another episode. Yeah,

646
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: I think we should. Let's let's look at we're talking

647
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Speaker 1: about the Middle East. If you couldn't already, if you

648
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: didn't know that, uh, the place where there always seems

649
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: to be some very serious conflicts going on. Yeah. One

650
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: of the only positive things you can say about affairs

651
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Speaker 1: between countries in the Middle East is that it has

652
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Speaker 1: not yet resulted in a world war, thankfully. It really hasn't.

653
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: It really hasn't. Well, yeah, knock on wood. Right. But

654
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: but when we talk about the Middle East, one thing

655
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: that people think about often, right, is going to going

656
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: to be the complex relationship between countries like Israel and

657
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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, both of whom are against Iran, uh, the

658
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: Islamic State versus everybody, because it wants to establish itself

659
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Speaker 1: as a country. We also cannot discount Turkey, but remember

660
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Speaker 1: the Islamic State. That's that's something that's gonna come up here.

661
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: Um in this podcast and in our later podcast, did

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Speaker 1: you catch the video of the President President Obama having

663
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Speaker 1: a slip of the tongue where he said we we

664
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Speaker 1: were training Aisle. It was just it seemed to be

665
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Speaker 1: just a slip of the tongue and it was taken

666
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Speaker 1: completely out of context, but it was posted all over

667
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Speaker 1: our conspiracy and above Top Secret today. Well, you know,

668
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: people did definitely train with US instruction or US funding

669
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Speaker 1: and then later go join different militias or I just

670
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't see the president saying out loud

671
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: on purpose that we were training Isisle. Well I'll check

672
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Speaker 1: it out, because you know, we had a lot of

673
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: people writing in about our Isais video that we did

674
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Speaker 1: with with similar claims. So I'm gonna I'm gonna check

675
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: that once you get up here. We we have to

676
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: take a pause here there there probably some of you

677
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: guys are listening and thinking, come on, man, this is

678
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: fearmong Green. It is true that people are continually trying

679
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: to put the fear of world war in the news

680
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: because those had line sell. Uh. So we want to

681
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the alarmism people have been

682
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: predicting the beginning of World War three since essentially September three,

683
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: the day after World War two, and probably that night,

684
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: it was probably that night, it was probably like six fifteen.

685
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: And the it's we have to be careful when we

686
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: hear people with an agenda fanning these fears of war,

687
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: especially you know who I'm about to complain about pundits, experts, Yeah,

688
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: professional experts, people in suits. Yeah. So here's here's my thing. Uh.

689
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: Not only does it sell newspapers, does it sell you know,

690
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: get clicks online and all of that. It also helps

691
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: to in sell this notion that we need more security.

692
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: No matter where you are, what country you're in, the

693
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: thought of an impending global conflict will help you, will

694
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: at least help you understand that we need to spend

695
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: more tax dollars on whatever defense we need to spend

696
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: it on, right, at least according to the people who

697
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: are in charge, right, Yeah, that and that has definitely

698
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: happened in the past. I don't know if it's a

699
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: rule like across countries across the globe, but I can

700
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: clearly see the logic. I think officially, I think it's

701
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: pretty base, like a base emotion of fear. You sell,

702
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: you sell the fear that so that people are fearful,

703
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: and then they will they're more willing to I don't know,

704
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: let's say, sacrifice the money they're taking in tax dollars,

705
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: sacrifice some liberty for some security, just trade in a

706
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: little more right, one piece of the time. Think that's

707
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: what it is. So, you know what, I think that's

708
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: a good point too. So one of the things that

709
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: we we do know that there is this alarmism, and

710
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: it seems that currently while the possibility of a world

711
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: war is higher, it still is pretty low for a

712
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: different thing. So we do know, however, that when the

713
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Speaker 1: next global conflict occurs, if it occurs, it's going to

714
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: be very very different. Because out of these three scenarios

715
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Speaker 1: that we touched upon, um, the Middle East, China, Russia

716
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: or you know, these these various conflicts. Out of these, uh,

717
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: there there are several commonalities that are kind of new. Right. Well,

718
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: the first one is that it feels as though a

719
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: vast majority of this conflict, of this war will be

720
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: fought online or at least through some type of cyber

721
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: attack measures that then lead to other further conflicts. Um. Also,

722
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: possibly it might some of it might take place in space. Bend.

723
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: Does that sound a little crazy, Ah, yeah, yeah it does.

724
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: It sounds a little crazy, but I think about it.

725
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: Satellites are one of the most important technologies that we

726
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: have currently for communicating not only to one another as civilians,

727
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: as just people on this planet, but communicating for militaries. Yes.

728
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: In two thousand seven, uh, the Chinese government shot down

729
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: a satellite that it owned, and you can read about

730
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: this as a It was called a missile test, I think,

731
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: but it was also a clear message to other countries. Yeah.

732
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, hey, we need to get rid of

733
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: that satellite, right then do it for funzies? Uh? And

734
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: and the U s did not send up it's unmanned

735
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: spacecraft just to I don't know, um, take a road

736
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: trip to you know. To be fair, we can neither

737
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: confirm or deny they might have just send it up

738
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: for fun. I don't know, that's right. The missions are

739
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: still classified. The X thirty seven B. That's what we're

740
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: talking about. So those two things will be those two

741
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: things will be different. There will be new frontiers in

742
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: the war. Resource wars are something that we've also talked

743
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: about the idea of a war over water. UH Fears

744
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: over diminishing resources, which in several cases are completely valid

745
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: and in other cases are a little exaggerated, may likely

746
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: spark regional conflicts that later, because of alliances, lead to

747
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: global conflicts. You also got trade connections, um you know,

748
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: usually see this kind of conflict as in sanctions that

749
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: are levied by one country or one group on another country.

750
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: Trade is a huge factor for the US, specifically in China,

751
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: specifically in Russia, really any if you're a country in

752
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: the world right now, trade is a huge deal because

753
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: if we're such a global environment now that pretty much

754
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: you can't exist if you are trying to be in

755
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: so insular that you have no imports exports right right,

756
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: And so this is a mitigating factor for war, but

757
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: it's probably not enough too. While it lowers the possibility

758
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: of awards, probably not enough to absolutely rule out the possibility.

759
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: There's another thing here, and this is it's this is

760
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: just my opinion. This is the most troubling of the

761
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: newer factors, and that is the significant influence of non

762
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: state actors in a very specific way. And we're talking

763
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: about winning a terrible lottery here. This is not a

764
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: very likely thing. But what do we mean by non

765
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: state actors? Well, the state actor would be the country

766
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: you live in in the international sphere, uh So the

767
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: non state actors would be institutions that are not necessarily

768
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: a state. So for instance, the i m F, the

769
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: International Monetary Fund is an institution. Uh The Vaticans a

770
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: little bit different because it is its own it does

771
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: have its own country. So let's just say, um, let's

772
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: the International Order of Generic Religion or something like that

773
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: with some just something like that. Interesting. And then there,

774
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: of course are gigantic corporations, right, which was the ultimate

775
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: force behind the overthrow of the democratically elected government of

776
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Guatemala in n insert here, and which is also the

777
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Speaker 1: same year that Stalin gave quote unquote gave Crimea to

778
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: Ukraine because it was originally Russian territory. So the the

779
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: last actor here, which is one of the most dangerous,

780
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: is the idea of terrorists. Here's what is different about

781
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: this current situation with the advent of nuclear weapons, right,

782
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: we know that it is possible for a relatively small

783
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: group of people to detonate something, and once that happens,

784
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff flies out the window. There there

785
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: are countries that have, depending upon the circumstances, there are

786
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: countries that have immediate countermeasures that go into effect, and

787
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: once that happens, it's it's likely it's very much possible

788
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: that those countermeasures would trigger other countermeasures from other countries

789
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: and then there would be a war. So this, to

790
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: me is the most frightening thing. What happens if a

791
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: if a terrorist group somehow gets ahold of a nuclear

792
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: weapon from country like Pakistan, right, or or steal something

793
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: from some other nuclear arsenal and then deploys it. Right.

794
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: What what happens then, because governments will have to react. Well, yeah,

795
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: and there would be unless unless an intelligence agency or

796
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: some other government agency from whatever country the attack occurred

797
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: was following and had already a lead and an understanding

798
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: that this X group has a nuclear weapon and is

799
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: determined to use it. You have no idea who needed

800
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: that thing, right, And and if that's the case, that

801
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: to me is the worst case scenario. Yeah, because then

802
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: it could also be a government pretending that a terrorist

803
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: did it. Uh. And that's that's sort of that's that's

804
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: part of the problem because depending on where that kind

805
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: of thing would go, Uh, it could it could very quickly,

806
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: with very little time passing, become a global conflict. So

807
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: we've talked about some of this. We've talked about a

808
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: lot about the speculation, right, and we've talked a lot

809
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: about the current situations. And those are kind of high

810
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: level looks. But now let's look at the stuff they

811
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: don't want you to know. So we know that there

812
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: are all sorts of conspiratorial theories about this stuff. For instance,

813
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: and this is not even a conspiracy, This is not speculations,

814
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: just true. Some officials in various countries want war. You

815
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: can read Western economists arguing that war is a solution

816
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: to domestic financial woes or economic woes. Uh. And that

817
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: you know, of course, reminded you and me of uh

818
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: Smedley Butler and John Perkins, the author of Confessions of

819
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: an Economic hit Man, which is which is a good

820
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: read to check out and if you don't know, but

821
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: fascinating and if you if you don't know who Smedley Butler.

822
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: Is you should by now kids learn about Smedley Butler.

823
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: He's fascinating. Just s M. E. D L E. Y. Yes,

824
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: you can find our episode on him by checking by

825
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: checking online for the business plot which was a air

826
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: alleged Yeah, which is an alleged uh plot by some

827
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: of the elites of the U S to overthrow the

828
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: US government and replace them with a fascist regime. Yeah.

829
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: Crazy story, really interesting. Okay, So another thing, just speaking

830
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: of people trying to take over banking, war and banking.

831
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: It's no secret that war can be massively profitable, just

832
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: like we stayed in the last one. But do the

833
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: banks perhaps have a hand in any of this? Right?

834
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: And this is something that we hear often, the idea

835
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 1: that high level investors and banking gurus know what will

836
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: happen geopolitically before the average person doesn't, even before some

837
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: governments do, or that banks will work to advance their

838
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: interest at the cost of the common people by perhaps

839
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: triggering a war, perhaps playing both sides of the conflict,

840
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: something like that, manipulating the manipulating the environment so as

841
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: to maximize profits. So perhaps they can go in and

842
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, start a central banking a let's say,

843
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: a country that hasn't had one before. Right, So, when uh,

844
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: the Red Bulls that overthrew Gaddafi and Libya, when they

845
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: set up when they when they had completely overthrow, one

846
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: of the very first things they did was set up

847
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 1: a central bank. And for people who believe these sorts

848
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories, that is considered proof of proof of

849
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: some higher involvement. However, also, you know, for many countries

850
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Speaker 1: a central bank is a necessary thing for international trade.

851
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: It seems as though it really is. Uh. There are

852
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: only a few countries left that do not have a

853
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: central banking system or do not have are not part

854
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: of the larger interaction. Right, So this is interesting. I'd

855
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: love to hear what people think about that. The other

856
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: big one, of course, is the petro dollar argument, the

857
00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: idea that because the US dollars that the facto currency

858
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 1: of the oil trade, that when countries don't play ball

859
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: or want to sell uh oil or petrol petroleum products

860
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: in something other than the US dollar, that they get

861
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: removed right to the top there on our short list. Yeah. Well,

862
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: and it might not be that way for long. With

863
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: the bricks countries setting up their own currency possibly, right, yeah,

864
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: and the bricks countries would be Brazil, Russia, India, China.

865
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: That brick is an acronym that commonly describes countries that

866
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: are thought to be ascendant in the world order in general. Right,

867
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: Uh so this this is another thing we could do

868
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: an entire episode on. But you know, I think we've

869
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: I think we've got to go Actually, oh man, there's

870
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: so much stuff to talk about that we didn't even

871
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: get to. We might might have to come back to

872
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: this one, I think. Yeah, in here isis again Petro Dollar.

873
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: I love. I wish we could go back and do

874
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: badly Butler again, but we are gonna have to get

875
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: out of here. We hope that you guys enjoyed this episode.

876
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: We'd love to hear what you think about the current

877
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 1: lay of the land. Do you think a world war

878
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: is likely? Do you think it's unlikely it's just a

879
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: bunch of fearmongering? Do you think that there is a

880
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: conspiracy a footo? And let's also mention one of the

881
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: more popular conspiracies in Russia is that the CIA was

882
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: behind uh instability in Ukraine. Maybe they were been I

883
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: don't know, man. Well, as you can imagine, there are

884
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: there are a lot of conspiracy theories that are not

885
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: that friendly to the US in places like Russia. Oh sure,

886
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: because we kind of have a history of doing some things, right, yeah,

887
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: and vice vice versa. Right, absolutely, so we have to go.

888
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: But there is one last thing we're gonna do. This

889
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: episode is is a little longer than norm Wait do

890
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: you hear that? Okay, it's not just me? No, no, okay,

891
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: just me alright. Well, if we're both hearing that noise,

892
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: it can only mean one thing. Leads and gentlemen, it's

893
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: time for a moment with Noel. H Yeah, how's it going?

894
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: Is it? Me? Am? I here? Yeah, you're here? Okay,

895
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: this this this episode guy kind of long for us.

896
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty big, big topic and there's a

897
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: lot of like conceptual thought that goes into it, so,

898
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of like weighing a lot of possibilities. So,

899
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand why it would be a bit,

900
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: uh a bit much to to bite off. Yeah, we

901
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: were a little ambitious. I I just hope, I hope

902
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't boring, you know, No, No, it wasn't boring.

903
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: In fact, so I'm sure you guys have heard of this.

904
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: Have you heard of the site god Like Productions? So yeah, yeah,

905
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: god Like Production. Just a friend of mine just told

906
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: me about it. So I was while you were going

907
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: through your stuff and seeing if there any topics on

908
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: there that I could, you know, talk about. But it's

909
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: a little much, it's a little dense. What did you

910
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: What did you find? Well, the first one that I

911
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: found that that had an interesting headline was A year

912
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: of the Shark. Um let's see, let me find it.

913
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: Is it talking about shark Week? Yeah, kind of. So

914
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: the headline for this post is something is coming and

915
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: it's posted by an anonymous coward says many may remember

916
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: the Summer of the Shark, and then this quote says

917
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: the Summer of the Shark refers to the coverage of

918
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: shark attacks by American news media in the summer of

919
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. The sensationalist coverage of shark attacks

920
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: began early July, following the fourth of July week weekend

921
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: shark attack on eight year old Jesse Arbogas, etcetera. It says,

922
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: now the media is once again in a frenzy with

923
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: shark sightings. Be very careful. The sharks are being used

924
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: to distract from an event. Okay, I see kind of

925
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: like a diverting the news thing, which reminds me of

926
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: our suppressed mitia. We just we just did that. Yeah. Oh,

927
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: there's another thing that's I should say in defense of

928
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: godlike productions. Anonymous coward is the generic media name. Yeah yeah, yeah,

929
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: but it's it's a great idea. Whoever, it is funny

930
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: one time I posted on there and then that's when

931
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: I learned. I said, how am I an anonymous coward?

932
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, the uh, the godlike form is also one

933
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: of the first places I found out about the smiley

934
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: face killer theory. Did you hear that one? So this

935
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: is a controversial one. It's the idea that there is

936
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: a serial killer, a group of serial killers. They're drowning

937
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: young men around the US, and the official story is

938
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: that these are alcohol related drownings. So these guys whore

939
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: like college age, are going somewhere and they're drinking, uh,

940
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: and then they're walking out and boom, they fall into

941
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: a body of water and end up unfortunately drowning. But

942
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: there is there's an investigator who is a pro investigator

943
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: who believes that this is a murderer and for a

944
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: group or a group of murderers based on what he

945
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: says is the use of like a graffiti smiley face

946
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: in the vicinity, which is very the styles of which

947
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 1: have varied widely. Right of the graffiti smiley face, but yeah,

948
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: there are way too many of them with the smiley

949
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: face or murders or death's let's say. Yeah. But also,

950
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, if you're looking for something, sure, yeah, I

951
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: know we're trying to keep this short. Um, but have

952
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: you guys been following Have you guys been following the

953
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: story about the Watcher? This house the film, No, there's

954
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: this house? Oh yes, that like this family sold and

955
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: then the family that bought it all of a sudden

956
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: started receiving these very sinister letters from someone calling themselves

957
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: the Watcher. And when I've last read there were only

958
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: two letters. I think, yeah, I've only read little bulleted

959
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: kind of cut ups of what you know, the contents

960
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: of the letters were. But uh, the this Watcher says

961
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: that it's been in his family for generations and he's like,

962
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, his grandfather watched it in the in the sixties,

963
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: and now it's his time. And he refers to the

964
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: person's children as young's and today in the basement and

965
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, the first to specific features of the house.

966
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: And a lot of the comments on sites that it

967
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: was on people are like that sounds like the plot

968
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: for like an episode of like you know, Criminal Minds

969
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: or something. Sure, it seems like a really nice house

970
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: to pures, so multiple multiple generations people just one person

971
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: writing notes. Yeah. And then my favorite line though, is

972
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: h have they found what's in the walls yet? They

973
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: will soon? It just sounds like like a teenager someone

974
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: with schizophrenia or something. Oh, I see some of this. Okay,

975
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: I am pleased to know your names now in the

976
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: name of the young Blood, you have brought to me

977
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: that I have been put in charge of watching and

978
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: waiting for its second coming. Wow, this is this is

979
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: very strange. Yeah, okay, so we gotta go because I

980
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: have to have to read up on this. I would

981
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: just say, you gotta for whoever's doing that, get a

982
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: sniper roost with a trunk gun and just sit there.

983
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: Just pay somebody. Apparently they never moved to the house,

984
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: and they're suing the people that they bought it from

985
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: because they did not disclose that it came with the

986
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: came with us stalker. Okay, alright, sorry strange, and that's

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Speaker 1: the end of this classic episode. If you have any

988
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