WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 10

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst.

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<v Speaker 3>We're laughing because we just had to kick Tony Reale

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<v Speaker 3>out from right in front of the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're all tired. Long football weekend. Teammate check. How'd

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<v Speaker 2>you do, Paul?

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty good. 13 hours of college football on Saturday. Another

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<v Speaker 4>12 on Sunday. I don't know how much sleep last night,

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<v Speaker 4>but who cares? A lot of football. We're here for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so an incredible week one. They're about to set

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<v Speaker 3>the scoring record unless the Chiefs and Broncos do nothing tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>They are about 41 points away from the highest scoring

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<v Speaker 3>week one in NFL history, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Break it down.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Bears have 59. Ravens, 41. Jags, 34. Bengals, 33. Lions,

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<v Speaker 4>31-30 over the Saints.

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<v Speaker 2>Bills, 36-31.

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<v Speaker 4>The Vikings are the third-string quarterback to score 39. The

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<v Speaker 4>Giants score 28. And then here's what's funny about this, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 4>Go back to last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The Seahawks and Patriots score 13 and 10 and the

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<v Speaker 4>Rams only score seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable that the Rams are the one single digit team.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay. So we're in week one. We see all this scoring.

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<v Speaker 4>There's Josh Allen. Of course he's going to score. Is

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<v Speaker 4>this an anomaly or can you extrapolate a trend out

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<v Speaker 4>of this, this early?

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's an anomaly. Week one is a liver.

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<v Speaker 3>It never means exactly what you think it is, but

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<v Speaker 3>some of the reasons that the games were so high

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<v Speaker 3>scoring was turnovers cause a lot of points. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the one game that sort of lit it all up

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<v Speaker 3>was the Bears and the Panthers, 59-37.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the reason that went so high scoring.

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<v Speaker 3>This piece of Bears defense let the Panthers stay in

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<v Speaker 3>the game.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bears were blowing them out. So the Bears had

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<v Speaker 2>to keep their foot on the gas.

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<v Speaker 4>And Kevin Clark from Omaha Productions, he was joining the

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Patch show today, and he talked about this. And

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<v Speaker 4>he said something about, you know, the defenses are playing catch-up.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of new players, new quarterbacks, new systems, free agency.

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<v Speaker 4>So they don't know exactly what to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little shocking that the Texans defense, which we've been talking

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<v Speaker 3>about for months— Completely fell apart. It looked like Josh Allen,

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<v Speaker 3>by the end, could do whatever he wanted. That, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>was the biggest surprise. But again, week one does not

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<v Speaker 3>mean what we think it does. I mean, the Bears

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<v Speaker 3>are not going to score 59 points a week, are they?

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<v Speaker 4>No, they usually don't score 59 points in a month,

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<v Speaker 4>like in the old Bears days. But there's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of teams that are interesting. The Vikings, Packers, that's nuts

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<v Speaker 4>because you think... Once Kyler Murray's out, the scoring's going

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<v Speaker 4>to go down.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on.

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<v Speaker 5>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no way the Vikings or the Bears play

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<v Speaker 3>in Week 2. We're not going to see games in

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<v Speaker 3>the 30s or 40s.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a anomaly.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're poo-pooing the possible trend.

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<v Speaker 2>I am completely poo-pooing, and I'm starting with your Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the Bears a lot this year.

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<v Speaker 3>They do not want to score 59 points. Ben Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>wants to run left and run right because he's got

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<v Speaker 3>to protect that defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet you anything, Paul. I'm going to go out

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<v Speaker 2>on a limb here. that they go under next week.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm positive they're going to go under, whatever the total is.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're going to say they're going to undercompensate, not overcompensate.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to undercompensate, and they love to run the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>They had two runners over 100 yards on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was a fun weekend. At least it's fun

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<v Speaker 4>for all the fans. A lot of scoring, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of energy.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so, right, unless you're a Chargers fan. There

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<v Speaker 3>are a lot of, you know, listen, there's the flip side.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of teams that did not do well,

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<v Speaker 3>but to me, there are certain fan bases that are

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<v Speaker 3>completely over the moon, starting with Chicago. But Tony kept

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<v Speaker 3>on talking about it on the Dan Patrick show.

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<v Speaker 2>You were a little bit, I'm not going to say timid.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to save this for my warm take because

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<v Speaker 4>I want to talk about Sunday Night Football, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to save Bears football. break pumping for my warm take.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's a game, by the way, Sunday Night Football,

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<v Speaker 3>where there is no break pumping in New York because the.

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<v Speaker 2>Giants are back.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know what this means, but the

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<v Speaker 3>Giants look like they have it figured out and the

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys were disappointing. I'll tell you right now, the reason

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Giants are back, I think Jackson Dart is...

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<v Speaker 3>Between 5 and 10 in the quarterback rankings.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's elite.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going there, Paul. I think he looked like Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Burrow on Sunday night. He was incredible on third down.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm dead serious.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dead serious.

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<v Speaker 3>The team was 9 of 11 on third down, and

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<v Speaker 3>he looked like he could do whatever he wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>They had the running game going with Scadaboo.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dallas Cowboys only got the ball twice in the

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<v Speaker 3>second half. It was a domination. It was a ball

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<v Speaker 3>control domination. Isaiah likely turns out to be a star

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<v Speaker 3>at tight end. But I was really impressed by Jackson

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<v Speaker 3>Dart's poise.

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<v Speaker 4>OK, I got to call a 20 here. I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to need to chop up everything you just said. First

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<v Speaker 4>of all, Scataboo, no more round off things. This is

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<v Speaker 4>not the Olympics. You're not Romanian. Here we go. I

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<v Speaker 4>know what you're saying about Jackson Dart because I agree

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<v Speaker 4>with you. I thought he was great in college. I

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<v Speaker 4>loved him last year, but he just took on too

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<v Speaker 4>much hits. There was a play in the second quarter

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<v Speaker 4>where Dart rolls left. He's run for about 15 yards

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<v Speaker 4>and could have gotten another five yards, and he casually

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<v Speaker 4>walks out of bounds. And you hear Chris Collinsworth on

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<v Speaker 4>NBC go, oh, that's it. That's it. Like he finally

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<v Speaker 4>unlocked the box. I will say, though, I was not

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<v Speaker 4>that surprised by this game because Dallas has a revamped

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<v Speaker 4>defense with some new characters. Sean Gary. That takes time

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<v Speaker 4>to play out.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, we're analyzing NFL Week 1. Don't give me time

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<v Speaker 3>to play out. We have to overreact here, Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to do proper reaction Monday here. I love

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<v Speaker 4>what the Giants did. They ran the ball well. Malik Nabors,

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<v Speaker 4>there was some talk that he wouldn't be ready for

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<v Speaker 4>the game up until three hours before the game started.

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<v Speaker 4>But look at them last night. 5.8 yards per play.

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<v Speaker 4>9 for 11 on third down. That's a quarterback who

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<v Speaker 4>gets it. And Jackson Dart, if he could just cut

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<v Speaker 4>down his hits... I think he ran the ball 11 times.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a little much for me. But he's good at running.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the tough part.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, and he had some key first downs with

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<v Speaker 3>his legs. Again, I'm ready to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say the word. I'll say it. Elite.

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<v Speaker 4>But you, when we were talking about the Giants a

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<v Speaker 4>month ago, you said, don't worry about the Giants. They're inconsequential.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you falling for your own stuff here?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm totally falling for my own hype. And you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even really get to see that defensive line with Abdul

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<v Speaker 3>Carter and now Arvel Risa, linebacker, Kayvon Thibodeau, and Ryan Burns,

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<v Speaker 3>who's outstanding.

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<v Speaker 4>They had no sacks yesterday, but they were in the

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<v Speaker 4>backfield a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Abdul Carter had a big play that disrupted the Cowboys' offense.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's get to the Cowboys' side of this. I

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<v Speaker 4>would be a little more bothered about the offense was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be the sure thing this year. They ran

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<v Speaker 4>the ball okay. They passed the ball okay. But okay

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<v Speaker 4>won't work when you have an average defense.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't pass the ball or run the ball when

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<v Speaker 3>you're on defense all the time. Dak was really, really good.

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<v Speaker 3>There were a couple drops. I'm not worried about their

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<v Speaker 3>offense at all. I am so disappointed in their defense, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>Because remember the narrative that Jerry Jones had made up

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<v Speaker 3>for the bad Micah Parsons trade by getting all these

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<v Speaker 3>defensive tackles and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Were going to stop the run? What happened to that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the bigger picture with the Cowboys, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you think of their offense or their defense... They

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<v Speaker 4>don't feel like a big game team for me. The

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<v Speaker 4>bigger the game, the less they show up. And that's been,

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<v Speaker 4>we're a couple decades into that now. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not an anti-Cowboys guy. I just think that they don't

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<v Speaker 4>perform well under the biggest of lights. And you'd think

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<v Speaker 4>they're used to the lights.

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<v Speaker 3>There was so much hype, too. And I fell into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I picked them to win the NFC East. Did that

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<v Speaker 3>make the whole experience of watching them lose and lose

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<v Speaker 3>pretty badly even harder for Cowboys fans?

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<v Speaker 4>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>It does.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're going to get some college football in

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<v Speaker 4>a second, but week one NFL, we didn't talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the teams that were hurting, like the Dolphins and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the Packers, but it's time to give out helmet stickers.

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<v Speaker 4>Who had a good game, who had a great performance,

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<v Speaker 4>you go first.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, my first helmet sticker actually goes to Baltimore, and

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<v Speaker 3>you'd think I was talking about Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm talking about Zay Flowers, a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Had 150 yards receiving that went out with a hamstring injury,

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<v Speaker 3>one that he's been dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>Not too bad, though.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason I'm giving Zay Flowers the helmet sticker is

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<v Speaker 3>because I thought he was the most overpaid wide receiver

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<v Speaker 3>in football. When he got $ 35 million in the offseason,

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<v Speaker 3>then he goes out against Week 1 and Indy, and

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<v Speaker 3>the entire Baltimore offense was dominant, and he was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>I took a long one to the house. Zay Flowers

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<v Speaker 3>is a top-tier receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>I was totally wrong about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think he's ever going to get in

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<v Speaker 4>that conversation with Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. For that team,

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<v Speaker 4>he does exactly what they need. Not a big dude, but, man,

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<v Speaker 4>he can get up the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he can scoot.

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<v Speaker 4>I pulled a hamstring just watching him on that play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a little worried about this hamstring.

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<v Speaker 3>They said if it was a playoff game, he could

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<v Speaker 3>have gone back into the game against Indy. But the

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<v Speaker 3>way Lamar Jackson played on Sunday and with Flowers and

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of other weapons, Derrick Henry looks like he's 25.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this offense is going to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>the stories of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>When the Ravens are at the goal line at the

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<v Speaker 4>5-yard line, they run that read option with Derrick Henry

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<v Speaker 4>and Lamar Jackson. I don't know how you stop that.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, it's time for my helmet sticker. I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to give my helmet sticker to T.J. Watt of the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 4>His first career touchdown. This is a play. This is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like Jefferson in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

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<v Speaker 4>He just ate it alive. He picked, ran it back

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<v Speaker 4>to the house. Unbelievable play by T.J.

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<v Speaker 3>Watt.

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<v Speaker 4>And his brother. I was almost going to give J.J.

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<v Speaker 4>Watt a helmet sticker as well. But first career touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch this here. Right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Eat it up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just take that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That looks like something out of a high school game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they didn't even get him when he was

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground. I did hear, was this his first touchdown?

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<v Speaker 4>First career touchdown. That's not very wattish.

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<v Speaker 3>But he has 10 picks, I also heard, in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>They said that during the game, which is unbelievable. I

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<v Speaker 3>actually want to bring up a sensitive topic.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh-oh.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a friend of J.J. Watt's.

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<v Speaker 4>Friend of Justin, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it possible that T.J. is going to end up

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<v Speaker 2>having a better career.

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<v Speaker 4>Than J.J.? You know, I think that's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to have to maybe save that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hit you with that out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's tease that for tomorrow, who will have a

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<v Speaker 4>better career.

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<v Speaker 2>T.J.

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<v Speaker 4>Watt has a little more consistency past the age of 27.

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<v Speaker 4>After the age of 27, J.J. Watt, injuries kind of

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<v Speaker 4>slowed him down, so... More consistency. I would say better

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<v Speaker 4>at their best, JJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Because TJ, when he's not there, the Steelers can't win

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<v Speaker 3>a game.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, I'm leaning TJ. But we'll save that

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<v Speaker 2>for tomorrow. We can get the audience involved as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday night, college football, the game of the year, even

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<v Speaker 4>though it's only the first two weeks of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Ohio State versus Texas. Game day is there.

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<v Speaker 4>McConaughey is there. Woody Harrelson is there. The Manning family

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<v Speaker 4>is there. And Ohio State was running things for the

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<v Speaker 4>entire first quarter, for the entire first half. It's 23

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<v Speaker 4>at halftime and you're trying to figure out a reason

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<v Speaker 4>to stay with this game. And then it was like

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<v Speaker 4>one of those body-switching movies where everything Ohio State did

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<v Speaker 4>in the fourth quarter was wrong and everything Texas did

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<v Speaker 4>was right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Arch Manning struggled in the first half, but to

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<v Speaker 3>me it was on the drops.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a Ryan Wingo drop and a Cam Coleman

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<v Speaker 3>drop on a hard play that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ended up being an interception of total fluke play.

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<v Speaker 4>Fluke play.

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<v Speaker 2>Fluke play. I didn't think Arch was playing badly.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Arch started to push a little bit, probably made

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<v Speaker 3>some throws that were ill-advised.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Arch looked okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the rest of the team caught up with him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was not shocked that Texas came back.

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<v Speaker 4>Same here. You and I are texting during this game,

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<v Speaker 4>watching the different games. And at halftime, I said, Texas

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<v Speaker 4>is a little closer than 20-3. They can't have this

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<v Speaker 4>many dismantling things. But that fourth quarter, gutsy Sark calls

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<v Speaker 4>on fourth down. Arch getting it done.

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<v Speaker 2>They did it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like you've talked about before. Some teams step

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<v Speaker 4>off the gas when they've got to hit it. Julian

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<v Speaker 4>Sane could have hit a touchdown to close that one out.

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<v Speaker 4>about a foot high, and that cost him the game.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one of those games. Stat-wise, Arch Manning, not great. Performance-wise, great.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say good, because he definitely was not great

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<v Speaker 3>in the first half. Definitely clutch. Ohio State missed a

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<v Speaker 3>field goal. That was a total killer as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Before we break, who would you rather stand next to

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<v Speaker 4>on the sidelines during a big Texas game? Kevin Durant,

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<v Speaker 4>Matt McConaughey, Woody Harrelson, or any Manning family member?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right. It's got to be McConaughey, right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because of the after party?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, coming up on Not So Fast, are you

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<v Speaker 3>all in on the Chicago Bears after yesterday's 8TD explosion? Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not so sure about it, even though he is

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<v Speaker 3>a Bears fan. That's next, Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Midday pick-me-up, Perloff. This is like a double shot of espresso.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch this guy. This is my guy, Commander Special Teamer

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler Owens. He became a star yesterday off this plate.

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>Hand on the neck, hand on the neck. Watch this.

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<v Speaker 4>Lift and bango!

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<v Speaker 2>There is not a single thing to talk to about

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<v Speaker 2>the commanders. Except that play.

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<v Speaker 3>That was their only highlight of the game, basically.

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler Owens, that clip is getting all over the place.

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<v Speaker 4>He's becoming a star. Got banged up later. Commander's uniform's

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<v Speaker 4>a little better. A little clean up.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe. But I don't know if Star, for that one play,

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<v Speaker 2>is he in NFL lore?

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<v Speaker 4>Not NFL lore, but special teams Monday morning social media lore.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll take that. All right, it's time for Warm Takes.

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<v Speaker 4>We do it every day on Not So Fast on Pabst.

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<v Speaker 4>He's Perloff. My first warm take.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 4>Let me stretch out here, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. It's a big one. First NFL Monday.

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<v Speaker 4>Shake it off. I'm going to speak today as a

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<v Speaker 4>representative of Bears Nation. I'm trying to be objective here.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've been working all night to try to say

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<v Speaker 4>the phrase, the Bears almost scored 60 week one of

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL season. It's not really working in my mind

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<v Speaker 4>and it won't really get to my mouth. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm having a moment where I can't speak. And it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't make sense to a Bears fan. If you're a

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<v Speaker 4>Bears fan, you've conditioned to scoring 17 points and trying

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<v Speaker 4>to steal a win or winning with defense. And I

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<v Speaker 4>know it's the Carolina Panthers, but they were not the

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<v Speaker 4>worst defensive team. They're bottom of the half. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>very confusing for a Bears fan to see this happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Bears fans are happy with 30 points, happy with 25 points.

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<v Speaker 4>So should you be a break pumper? I think everybody

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<v Speaker 4>week one should be a break pumper. What you see

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<v Speaker 4>week one is an anomaly. It doesn't usually hold up.

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<v Speaker 4>What usually happens the next week, the Bears would score

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<v Speaker 4>17 in a battle and lose at the buzzer. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's what happens here. So While you have to be

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<v Speaker 4>excited and you have to see that offense, but Ben

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<v Speaker 4>Johnson said this in the preseason. He said, we want

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<v Speaker 4>to be the highest scoring offense in the league, and historically.

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<v Speaker 4>So he called his shot, and everyone was ready to jab.

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<v Speaker 4>The claws were out, the Packers media, all the different media.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you score 59, you leave everyone nowhere to go.

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<v Speaker 4>So Ben Johnson, he called his shot. Week one, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>see how it plays out.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple things. I am obviously a break pumper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I rooting against your team because I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>you to come in here gloating on Monday morning?

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps.

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<v Speaker 4>Understandable.

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<v Speaker 3>The Panthers were 14th in defense last year, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFC South.

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<v Speaker 2>So you sort of weight that.

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<v Speaker 4>You prorate that.

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<v Speaker 3>And two years ago, they let up 47 to the

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<v Speaker 3>Saints in week one. And then the Saints didn't score

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<v Speaker 3>47 points the rest of the season. So the Panthers

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<v Speaker 3>might stink on defense. That is a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But not 59 points stink.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing is, the Bears let the Panthers back

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<v Speaker 3>in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Young looked like Alabama Bryce Young. So the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>had to keep on.

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<v Speaker 3>Jacksonville could have scored 59 against Cleveland, but there was

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<v Speaker 3>no need to. They sort of took their foot off

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<v Speaker 3>the gas. So, again, I am definitely break pumping. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think week two against Minnesota, that's a much better test.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the other thing is the Bears may need to

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<v Speaker 4>score 40-plus a game because the defense, for every pick

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<v Speaker 4>they get, they give up three touches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm worried about the defense. I mean, listen, they

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be good. There's no doubt. You should

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<v Speaker 2>be excited.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm going to talk about a team that is

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<v Speaker 3>not excited at all, and that is in L.A., and

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<v Speaker 3>that is the Chargers. And I'm mad at the Chargers

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<v Speaker 3>for many reasons. I entered a huge survivor pool, and

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<v Speaker 3>I picked the Chargers to beat the Cardinals in Week 1.

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<v Speaker 2>I am officially out. They lost 26-14.

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<v Speaker 3>And all the things that Jim Harbaugh, the coach, said

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<v Speaker 3>in the preseason did not come true. He said that

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Herbert was not just going to be good, but

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest quarterback of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Harbaugh on Michael Irvin's podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Allow me to call my shot like Babe Ruth pointing

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<v Speaker 3>his bat over a center field.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Herbert, when it's all said and done.

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<v Speaker 3>When his career comes to an end, I predict he

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<v Speaker 3>will be known as the greatest, best ever to play

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<v Speaker 3>the position of quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Harbaugh not mincing words there.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike McDaniel, the new offensive coordinator, was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>the wonder kid who was going to fix everything with

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<v Speaker 3>the Chargers offense. They looked terrible. The team looked terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>They were going against one of the worst defenses in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL, the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals beat them up,

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<v Speaker 3>dominated them in every phase of the game. Here's the

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<v Speaker 3>one YOLO shot they took at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 3>and it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Not work out.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Chargers not only killed me in the survivor pool,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm down on the team. I'm completely overreacting on this

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<v Speaker 3>because Justin Herbert is not going to be the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback of all time. He's not going to challenge Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Montana and Tom Brady. He's okay, but he needs protection.

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<v Speaker 3>He has no weapons.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not even the best quarterback in Chargers' recent history.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't even have to go back to

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<v Speaker 4>Dan Fouts. I mean, Stan Humphreys had more success in

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<v Speaker 4>the playoffs. I mean, I think that's a fact. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't look as good. But, yeah, the Chargers might

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<v Speaker 4>be underrated for how frustrating of a franchise they are.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in the day, Antonio Gates and Tomlinson, and they

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<v Speaker 4>have Breeze on the roster. You have Phil Rivers. And

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<v Speaker 4>this roster is very good. A very good defense. O'Marion Hampton. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>it's week one, but that's a team you're playing that

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<v Speaker 4>probably doesn't want to win. And they made Jacoby Brissett

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<v Speaker 4>look good. And it's a very frustrating franchise. Also, they're

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<v Speaker 4>like the hot girl who never shows up. Because they

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<v Speaker 4>look so good in their uniforms. Justin Herbert looks the

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<v Speaker 4>part of the WB star quarterback with great hair. And

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<v Speaker 4>Jim Harbaugh, he always wins. Like, historically.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's even more frustrating because everything's in place.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, it's very not so fast that you

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<v Speaker 3>went to Stan Humphreys and not Phillip Rivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a little more recent. I mean, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a deep cut guy. All right. Here's my next

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<v Speaker 4>warm take.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Oregon football got by Boise week one. No big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Great second half. Dante Moore, Heisman candidate and a top

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<v Speaker 4>five draft pick supposedly for the NFL draft. That was

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<v Speaker 4>not so good. Oregon State last week lost to Tulsa

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<v Speaker 4>at home. And Tulsa is more of a basketball school.

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<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma State handled them. They beat them. It wasn't luck.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a fluke. And Dante Moore did very little

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<v Speaker 4>in the second half to help Oregon get out of

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<v Speaker 4>this mess that they were in. Look, can they right

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<v Speaker 4>the ship? They're not out of the playoffs. There's a

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<v Speaker 4>long way to go. It's an ugly victory. Ugly loss,

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<v Speaker 4>I should say. The bigger picture is Oklahoma State. With

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<v Speaker 4>Drew Mestermaker, who was, I think, in the band four

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, and now is going to be in play

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<v Speaker 4>for the first round of the NFL draft. Dante Moore,

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<v Speaker 4>get it together. You came back for a reason. You

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<v Speaker 4>could have stayed in the draft and been a top

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<v Speaker 4>20 pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy.

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<v Speaker 4>You came back for one reason, to win something, to

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<v Speaker 4>get to the playoffs. Don't let this happen. It is

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<v Speaker 4>on you. It's not on your coach. It's not on

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<v Speaker 4>everybody else. You're the guy. You want to be the guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Do the thing in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, for fun, I went back to some preseason

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<v Speaker 3>mock drafts, Paul. Not everyone had Drew Mestermaker in the

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<v Speaker 3>first round, but the Athletics' Dane Brugler had a number

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<v Speaker 3>eight overall to the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy was at North Texas last year.

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Steelers, Drew Mestermaker, could he be the next Big Ben?

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a Big Ben quality to me. He's fast,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's got an arm.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Mestermaker sounds like a Dutch name, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's big in Pennsylvania. I extrapolate, yeah. But they do

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<v Speaker 4>love Durella.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out of here. All right.

0:18:12.410 --> 0:18:15.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm willing to go back to the NFL here. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>there was some bad football on Sunday. People have been

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<v Speaker 3>talking about tanking possibly for Arch Manning. It was for

0:18:20.300 --> 0:18:22.340
<v Speaker 3>Dante Moore, but I agree with Paul. He might have

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.940
<v Speaker 3>just absolutely gone off the radar for the NFL on Saturday.

0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.020
<v Speaker 3>But it's going to be really hard to tank this

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<v Speaker 3>year because there are some awful teams. You can look

0:18:30.260 --> 0:18:34.590
<v Speaker 3>at Cleveland. You look at Tennessee, and you look at Miami. Now,

0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.850
<v Speaker 3>two of those teams definitely need a quarterback. Miami with

0:18:37.890 --> 0:18:40.310
<v Speaker 3>Malik Willis, he looked okay, but they're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>in the mix. Deshaun Watson was terrible. That was play

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<v Speaker 3>one right there.

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<v Speaker 2>He was awful.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do not know what the Tennessee Titans are doing.

0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.460
<v Speaker 3>New coach Robert Sala did not have control of this game.

0:18:51.820 --> 0:18:54.219
<v Speaker 3>Cam Ward does not look good. It wasn't really his

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<v Speaker 3>fault because there's no talent around him. But, Paul, let

0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.410
<v Speaker 3>me give you some numbers here. Tennessee just had 195

0:18:59.410 --> 0:19:01.949
<v Speaker 3>total yards in the game against the Jets. Cleveland was

0:19:01.970 --> 0:19:04.659
<v Speaker 3>down 24-0 at halftime, then down 34-3.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dolphins, 2-for-10 on third down. There's so many ugly statistics.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. If you want the number one

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<v Speaker 2>pick this year, you're going to really have to work

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<v Speaker 2>for it. I think you might have a one-win team.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's really ugly. And Cam Ward, at the end

0:19:16.830 --> 0:19:18.350
<v Speaker 4>of last season, seemed to be picking it up a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit. We felt good about the offseason. The Cleveland Browns,

0:19:21.270 --> 0:19:23.910
<v Speaker 4>we said we liked the team's direction. You trade Miles Garrett,

0:19:23.950 --> 0:19:25.710
<v Speaker 4>which you don't want to do, but you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>had to.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a move for the future.

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<v Speaker 4>It is for the future, but their presence seems so

0:19:29.260 --> 0:19:32.620
<v Speaker 4>dark and ugly. And then the Miami Dolphins, I looked

0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.719
<v Speaker 4>at their wide receiver depth chart yesterday. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>any names. I thought they were friends of mine from college.

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<v Speaker 3>No, the wide receiver depth chart is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>funniest things ever. I mean, Malik Willis, I think, has

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<v Speaker 3>some talent. I feel really bad for him. Came over

0:19:43.470 --> 0:19:46.450
<v Speaker 3>from Green Bay. But they're looking toward the future as well.

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<v Speaker 3>They're definitely going to draft a quarterback. To me, the

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<v Speaker 3>interesting thing, what about 10 What if Cam Ward struggles

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<v Speaker 3>all season and they end up with a one or

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<v Speaker 3>two pick? There's going to be some great quarterbacks. Do

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<v Speaker 3>they give up on last year's number one overall?

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<v Speaker 4>Because they gave up on Malik Willis. They gave up

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<v Speaker 4>on your boy from Kentucky.

0:20:00.890 --> 0:20:01.830
<v Speaker 2>Will Levis. Will Levis.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're going to do it again. It's like no consistency.

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<v Speaker 2>But the number one overall to give up on him

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<v Speaker 2>that fast, that's tough. All right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it. Oh, we got a little Who Said It

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<v Speaker 4>bonus coverage. Let's play a little game called Who Said It?

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<v Speaker 4>NFL or college-related pearl. We're going to do one real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go. Who said this? We are 0 for

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<v Speaker 4>last week. To have a guy like that who doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>even get tired, I don't know how he does it.

0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.060
<v Speaker 4>He's running the ball every play, catching it out of

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<v Speaker 4>the backfield. I'm looking in the huddle, and he's not

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<v Speaker 4>even breathing hard. I don't know how he does it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I will go with Jared Goff on Jameer Gibbs,

0:20:34.830 --> 0:20:37.609
<v Speaker 3>although Ashton Jenner or Jameer Gibbs is subject to this.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go Cooper Rush, surprise starter for Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 4>talking about Bisham Robinson.

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<v Speaker 2>Good one.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>To have a guy like that, I mean, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>even get tired. I don't know how he does it.

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<v Speaker 6>He's running the ball every play, whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Catching it out the backfield and he's still, I'm looking

0:20:53.410 --> 0:20:54.770
<v Speaker 4>in the huddle and he's not even breathing hard. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how he does it. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>give you half a point for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I should get three quarters of a point.

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<v Speaker 4>Three quarters of a point. I'm giving that to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to Ross St. Brown. Talk about Jameer Gibbs

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<v Speaker 4>on the Lions.

0:21:03.369 --> 0:21:05.830
<v Speaker 3>That's a problem though. Do we want Jameer Gibbs to

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<v Speaker 3>be running the ball every play? I was a little

0:21:07.550 --> 0:21:09.649
<v Speaker 3>worried about that. David Montgomery had a great game on

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday as well.

0:21:11.190 --> 0:21:13.250
<v Speaker 2>I think the Lions have to protect their star running.

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<v Speaker 4>But they didn't do so in the off season. They

0:21:15.290 --> 0:21:17.610
<v Speaker 4>didn't get depth. They don't have David Montgomery anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up next. Ooh, this is bonus coverage here. John

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<v Speaker 4>Fanta of NBC Sports will join us next to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about college football, pro football, and his new show on NBC.

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<v Speaker 4>Stick around. Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Perloff. He's Pabst.

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<v Speaker 3>And, Paul, one of the great things about debuting on

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<v Speaker 3>NBC Sports now on Peacock, we debuted the same day

0:21:38.270 --> 0:21:41.850
<v Speaker 3>as John Fanta, Fanta in 60. Really proud of that. And,

0:21:41.890 --> 0:21:45.669
<v Speaker 3>of course, we're a longtime fan. Fanta in 60, college

0:21:45.690 --> 0:21:49.350
<v Speaker 3>football countdown, just all over NBC Sports. And been doing

0:21:49.369 --> 0:21:52.149
<v Speaker 3>such an incredible job. John, it's so good to have you.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you doing, buddy?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, guys, I'm doing well. I enjoyed week one of

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:00.969
<v Speaker 5>the NFL. I thought it was dramatic. I love that

0:22:01.010 --> 0:22:05.750
<v Speaker 5>the windows were pretty balanced in drama. And look, the

0:22:05.869 --> 0:22:08.650
<v Speaker 5>team that I'm a fan of did not ruin my

0:22:08.770 --> 0:22:13.410
<v Speaker 5>entire day. It was around 108 when things sort of expired.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so we're going to get the college football. Let's

0:22:15.290 --> 0:22:17.390
<v Speaker 4>pull the Band-Aid on this. You grew up a Browns

0:22:17.470 --> 0:22:20.580
<v Speaker 4>fan and And they weren't awful last year. Their defense

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:22.940
<v Speaker 4>looked okay. The Jared Verst trade, you kind of like

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.860
<v Speaker 4>the direction of the team. But that's a body blow

0:22:25.900 --> 0:22:26.540
<v Speaker 4>on Sunday, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's probably the most disturbing thing about this, fellas,

0:22:31.609 --> 0:22:34.410
<v Speaker 5>is that I don't think that the casual would believe

0:22:34.430 --> 0:22:37.070
<v Speaker 5>that the Browns have made the playoffs two of the

0:22:37.130 --> 0:22:40.510
<v Speaker 5>last six years. People would find that hard to believe,

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<v Speaker 5>and rightly so. What they're doing isn't just bad. It's

0:22:47.670 --> 0:22:52.470
<v Speaker 5>worse than that because it's one thing to stink. It's

0:22:52.530 --> 0:22:57.050
<v Speaker 5>another to be tone deaf about it. And they should

0:22:57.090 --> 0:23:00.630
<v Speaker 5>be ashamed of what they did on Sunday afternoon. That

0:23:00.690 --> 0:23:03.949
<v Speaker 5>was not National Football League caliber. At the end of

0:23:04.050 --> 0:23:09.270
<v Speaker 5>the day, the NFL is an entertainment business. And if

0:23:09.310 --> 0:23:13.950
<v Speaker 5>you're trying to lose football games, I get it, okay?

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.889
<v Speaker 5>This quarterback draft class is stacked with people. But the

0:23:18.030 --> 0:23:21.810
<v Speaker 5>owner of this team, Jimmy Haslam, came out in early

0:23:21.930 --> 0:23:25.580
<v Speaker 5>August and said, if it were me betting on it,

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<v Speaker 5>I'd take us over five and a half wins. Just

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<v Speaker 5>stop talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Just stop talking.

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.720
<v Speaker 5>He comes out and says that. This franchise is close

0:23:34.780 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 5>to 80 games under. 500 since his ownership group took over.

0:23:39.100 --> 0:23:45.160
<v Speaker 5>Deshaun Watson couldn't play in 2023. In what world, in

0:23:45.460 --> 0:23:49.450
<v Speaker 5>what world is any National Football League player who couldn't

0:23:49.550 --> 0:23:53.810
<v Speaker 5>play their position three years ago still in the league?

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<v Speaker 5>It is the worst quarterback room in the NFL. Even, like,

0:23:57.450 --> 0:24:02.830
<v Speaker 5>I watch these other teams. Jacoby Brissett, Geno Smith, Kirk Cousins. Like,

0:24:02.890 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 5>they're functional. They're functional. The Browns put the fun in dysfunctional.

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<v Speaker 2>John, when do they go to Shador Sanders?

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.879
<v Speaker 5>Should have happened already, Andrew. I will say this until

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm blue in the face, and I feel like a

0:24:20.580 --> 0:24:24.220
<v Speaker 5>lot of outsiders maybe don't believe me. I think you two,

0:24:24.650 --> 0:24:27.050
<v Speaker 5>I'm curious to see if you do believe me. I'm

0:24:27.109 --> 0:24:33.750
<v Speaker 5>telling you guys right now. He, Watson, cannot start the

0:24:33.790 --> 0:24:36.670
<v Speaker 5>home opener for the Browns, which is less than two

0:24:36.710 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 5>weeks from now. It's against the Panthers. He cannot start

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.020
<v Speaker 5>that game. He cannot start that game. And it's not

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.100
<v Speaker 5>even about performance, guys. Like, well, I'm way past that.

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<v Speaker 2>John, you're right.

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.500
<v Speaker 4>It's like pressing a bad hand. They made a horrible decision.

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.139
<v Speaker 4>They keep doubling down on this decision. It feels like

0:24:54.180 --> 0:24:56.640
<v Speaker 4>a franchise. If you look at the Knicks 10 years ago,

0:24:56.900 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 4>they somehow went from feeble and ownership that's a mess

0:24:59.900 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 4>to somehow getting into title. It's hard to picture, but

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 4>the Browns need to clear the books with this guy,

0:25:05.180 --> 0:25:07.220
<v Speaker 4>draft a good quarterback next year, and they've got a

0:25:07.270 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 4>lot of draft capital. Absolutely.

0:25:10.300 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 5>The Browns are not– that's the other frustrating thing. They're

0:25:12.580 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 5>not devoid of talent. But you can sense it from

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:20.209
<v Speaker 5>that locker room. They don't believe in him. Nobody does.

0:25:21.050 --> 0:25:23.390
<v Speaker 5>And there's people getting paid millions of dollars that say

0:25:23.430 --> 0:25:26.230
<v Speaker 5>they still believe in this guy all because of $ 230 million.

0:25:26.550 --> 0:25:29.530
<v Speaker 5>And when I say Watson can't play the home opener–

0:25:29.930 --> 0:25:33.010
<v Speaker 5>It's not because he can no longer play. It's because

0:25:33.530 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 5>if I were the NFL, I'd be a little bit

0:25:35.619 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 5>concerned about the scene inside that stadium. You both know

0:25:39.700 --> 0:25:43.889
<v Speaker 5>passionate fan bases. Cleveland Browns fans, they have no filter.

0:25:43.910 --> 0:25:44.750
<v Speaker 5>They have no control.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried.

0:25:46.410 --> 0:25:48.870
<v Speaker 5>I'm worried about that scene if he starts that game.

0:25:48.950 --> 0:25:49.540
<v Speaker 1>I really am.

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<v Speaker 3>John, I was actually worried about the 2027 Browns quarterback

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday night when Arch Manning was trailing against Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>Take us into the control room during Saturday night. You

0:26:01.330 --> 0:26:04.530
<v Speaker 3>had Iowa, Iowa State on NBC, and Texas, Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a crazy night.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, Chris Sims and Joshua Perry are on

0:26:08.670 --> 0:26:10.869
<v Speaker 5>our panel, so Nicole Auerbeck and I were trying to

0:26:10.910 --> 0:26:12.990
<v Speaker 5>keep them separate from each other. They both had their

0:26:13.010 --> 0:26:16.300
<v Speaker 5>letterman's jackets on. And Perry, I mean, this was the

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 5>total 180, guys. Perry had his... His feet kicked back.

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:25.619
<v Speaker 5>He was loving what he was seeing. When it was 23-3, and,

0:26:25.660 --> 0:26:28.820
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's one thing to say it's okay. Like,

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 5>if a bear does you know what in the woods,

0:26:30.740 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 5>do people believe it? But I don't know about you two,

0:26:33.300 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 5>but watching the game, I thought to myself, man, if

0:26:35.180 --> 0:26:39.830
<v Speaker 5>Texas scores a touchdown. Things are going to get interesting here.

0:26:40.010 --> 0:26:42.810
<v Speaker 5>Because Ohio State, even though they were up 20, they

0:26:42.830 --> 0:26:45.709
<v Speaker 5>got gift-wrapped that lead. They got gift-wrapped that lead. They

0:26:45.730 --> 0:26:48.010
<v Speaker 5>were kind of conservative all night. The one guy that

0:26:48.050 --> 0:26:51.690
<v Speaker 5>was making plays was Jeremiah Smith. But they weren't running

0:26:51.730 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 5>the ball great. They were not. And their defense was performing,

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.300
<v Speaker 5>but the heat, I thought, could get to them. It did.

0:26:59.040 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Shocking.

0:26:59.540 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, we are Cy Hawk ended before this game.

0:27:03.500 --> 0:27:07.180
<v Speaker 5>Our entire crew went right back into the game screening room,

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.449
<v Speaker 5>you know, after working a 12 hour day and we

0:27:09.470 --> 0:27:11.290
<v Speaker 5>had to make sure, hey, we need to see how

0:27:11.330 --> 0:27:15.470
<v Speaker 5>this thing closes. It's as shocked as I've been watching

0:27:15.530 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 5>a fourth quarter of a game. The two, not one,

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 5>but two fourth down conversions, penalties, conservative play calling. It's

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.140
<v Speaker 5>a really bad loss for Ryan Day. I mean, there's no–

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 5>Ohio State lost this.

0:27:28.700 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Game to me. John, I thought you did a great

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 4>job at halftime kind of going counter, saying how do

0:27:34.700 --> 0:27:37.050
<v Speaker 4>they get back, not declaring it over. So many people,

0:27:37.410 --> 0:27:39.790
<v Speaker 4>especially on social media, declare a game over. Tonight you

0:27:39.810 --> 0:27:42.290
<v Speaker 4>have Herb Street on Fan 1060, so you can chop

0:27:42.310 --> 0:27:44.830
<v Speaker 4>that up altogether. You cover a lot of Big Ten.

0:27:44.890 --> 0:27:47.210
<v Speaker 4>You're hosting the Big Ten shows. How much of a

0:27:47.290 --> 0:27:50.210
<v Speaker 4>cleanup or a necessary cleanup was the Michigan win over Oklahoma?

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<v Speaker 7>Oof.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, when you saw the line come out for the game,

0:27:57.250 --> 0:27:59.929
<v Speaker 5>my brain went to, all right, something's up here. This

0:27:59.950 --> 0:28:01.429
<v Speaker 5>is going to be a football game. They're going to

0:28:01.470 --> 0:28:04.210
<v Speaker 5>hang around. But I didn't think that Michigan could conceivably

0:28:04.380 --> 0:28:07.129
<v Speaker 5>win the game. And the reason why was because Western

0:28:07.150 --> 0:28:09.899
<v Speaker 5>Michigan pushed them around. They pushed them around. At the

0:28:09.940 --> 0:28:12.020
<v Speaker 5>line of scrimmage, Michigan lost the game at the line

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 5>of scrimmage. I don't know if they really won. They

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 5>won it over Oklahoma. Did they win it significantly?

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 6>No.

0:28:19.500 --> 0:28:22.020
<v Speaker 5>But Bryce Underwood was a better runner than John Mateer.

0:28:22.869 --> 0:28:26.030
<v Speaker 5>And that was the difference in the football game. Oklahoma,

0:28:27.030 --> 0:28:30.540
<v Speaker 5>under Brent Venables, I feel like we're not even giving

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.020
<v Speaker 5>them much credit for the playoff appearance last year because

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.300
<v Speaker 5>they ended up unraveling, and they weren't an easy– they

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.860
<v Speaker 5>weren't a fun watch. And offensively, they're kind of a

0:28:39.900 --> 0:28:43.930
<v Speaker 5>car stuck in neutral. And that's– it was the perfect–

0:28:44.610 --> 0:28:47.490
<v Speaker 5>if you were to select any top 15 team this

0:28:47.670 --> 0:28:49.940
<v Speaker 5>past Saturday for Michigan to play– I think he would

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.090
<v Speaker 5>have drafted Oklahoma because of how offensively slow they are

0:28:53.140 --> 0:28:56.350
<v Speaker 5>at times. And it showed. The Big Ten's not off

0:28:56.370 --> 0:28:59.910
<v Speaker 5>to a good start, but that on Saturday, that's a

0:29:00.050 --> 0:29:02.490
<v Speaker 5>bad loss for the SEC to take. If you thought

0:29:02.550 --> 0:29:04.630
<v Speaker 5>Oklahoma was the third or fourth best team in your league,

0:29:04.910 --> 0:29:08.210
<v Speaker 5>that's a tough way to lose because they look terrible.

0:29:08.990 --> 0:29:11.870
<v Speaker 3>You know, another favorite in the Big Ten, Oregon. Lost

0:29:11.950 --> 0:29:15.989
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma State. I was already worried about Oregon after week one.

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:16.740
<v Speaker 5>All right.

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:19.140
<v Speaker 2>Is there any chance they turn around after what happened

0:29:19.180 --> 0:29:19.700
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday?

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.380
<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm going to twist it on you guys and

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 5>give you a not so fast here. OK, I'm going

0:29:25.940 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 5>to take the car like this and I'm going to

0:29:28.780 --> 0:29:34.310
<v Speaker 5>say when that game ended, my brain went to. If

0:29:34.700 --> 0:29:37.250
<v Speaker 5>Lincoln Wiley at USC is ever going to work, USC

0:29:37.290 --> 0:29:39.370
<v Speaker 5>beats Oregon a week from Saturday.

0:29:39.030 --> 0:29:39.650
<v Speaker 2>At the Coliseum.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.090
<v Speaker 5>That is it, plain and simple. That's where my brain went, Andrew.

0:29:44.530 --> 0:29:47.170
<v Speaker 5>My brain did not go to Oregon. It went to,

0:29:47.190 --> 0:29:50.430
<v Speaker 5>we circled this date at the end of September as

0:29:50.450 --> 0:29:53.810
<v Speaker 5>USC's potential breakthrough night. They have been waiting for a

0:29:53.870 --> 0:29:57.980
<v Speaker 5>night of validation. That game actually got more interesting with

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 5>Oregon now having a loss because Oregon has to win

0:30:00.580 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 5>the game. They can't lose the game. They're still going

0:30:03.020 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 5>to have Ohio State. They're still going to have Indiana.

0:30:05.100 --> 0:30:07.070
<v Speaker 5>Conventional wisdom says they're going to lose one of those

0:30:07.110 --> 0:30:09.610
<v Speaker 5>football games. They can't be 9-3 with one of those

0:30:09.630 --> 0:30:13.790
<v Speaker 5>three losses being to Oklahoma State. So will they recover?

0:30:15.370 --> 0:30:20.020
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they will. I don't like the way

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 5>that they're playing. I know it's two games in, but

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 5>there are so many issues across the board. And their defense,

0:30:26.540 --> 0:30:29.900
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it got shredded. Jaden Maiava and USC could

0:30:29.940 --> 0:30:32.060
<v Speaker 5>have a field day in LA.

0:30:32.260 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a great point. And the USC freshman talent,

0:30:34.500 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 4>they've had a couple games to get ready. All right,

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:41.770
<v Speaker 4>your show, Phantoms 60, 6 p.m. Eastern, NBC Sports Now, Peacock, NBCSN.

0:30:42.110 --> 0:30:44.350
<v Speaker 4>We are teammates now, JF, as I call you, JF.

0:30:44.870 --> 0:30:48.250
<v Speaker 4>Your new show, you have an answer machine. That answer

0:30:48.270 --> 0:30:51.370
<v Speaker 4>machine is hot. It's white hot, and you're getting some

0:30:51.870 --> 0:30:53.810
<v Speaker 4>questionable calls. And I mean that in a good way, right?

0:30:53.830 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. We are getting questionable calls. Even Paul Pabst happened

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.780
<v Speaker 5>to call the show and ask what the loudest atmosphere was.

0:31:01.820 --> 0:31:03.910
<v Speaker 5>And I'll keep submitting questions to you guys. I want

0:31:03.930 --> 0:31:06.690
<v Speaker 5>to come in a day and ask you, I love

0:31:06.830 --> 0:31:10.250
<v Speaker 5>your food segment now of going to different restaurants around

0:31:10.270 --> 0:31:14.100
<v Speaker 5>the country and showcasing those. But really happy to be

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 5>teammates with you guys and loving what you're doing. And

0:31:16.660 --> 0:31:20.300
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate the kindness back. And Paul, Andrew, the voicemail

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.010
<v Speaker 5>box is open anytime. Thank you both for not leaving

0:31:23.090 --> 0:31:26.910
<v Speaker 5>condolences for my football team since the services had already passed.

0:31:27.170 --> 0:31:29.090
<v Speaker 5>We didn't even take until week one for that to happen.

0:31:29.410 --> 0:31:30.650
<v Speaker 5>I very much appreciate it.

0:31:30.650 --> 0:31:31.670
<v Speaker 3>John, I was going to say, we'll have you in

0:31:31.770 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>after a Browns win, but we want you in sooner

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 3>than that.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's a shot.

0:31:36.010 --> 0:31:38.710
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that would be a little while from now. So

0:31:38.780 --> 0:31:41.340
<v Speaker 5>there's no guarantees on when that appearance would come. So

0:31:41.380 --> 0:31:43.140
<v Speaker 5>let's not put that in writing for a while.

0:31:43.820 --> 0:31:44.540
<v Speaker 3>Awesome. Thanks, buddy.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you soon.

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:45.940
<v Speaker 4>See you, Jeff.

0:31:46.310 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 5>Appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me.

0:31:48.950 --> 0:31:51.060
<v Speaker 2>I love Jon Fanta's passion for the Browns, Paul. It's

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.420
<v Speaker 2>hard to do. It is.

0:31:52.460 --> 0:31:55.340
<v Speaker 4>You've got to be consistent. He's a young man. You've

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 4>got to think once in your lifetime it's got to

0:31:57.020 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 4>work out. Like being a Cubs fan, once in your lifetime,

0:31:59.540 --> 0:32:01.570
<v Speaker 4>Browns fan, it's going to be a long life.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.750
<v Speaker 3>Fanta and 60 Tonight, Jon Gruden and Kirk Herbstreit. All right,

0:32:04.770 --> 0:32:07.650
<v Speaker 3>coming up next on Not So Fast, we go to

0:32:07.670 --> 0:32:11.330
<v Speaker 3>the clip joint. Big debate about a controversial call that

0:32:11.530 --> 0:32:13.090
<v Speaker 3>Paul and I had no idea about.

0:32:13.850 --> 0:32:15.130
<v Speaker 2>That's next on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 6>How does this happen in the NFL in 2026 that

0:32:24.750 --> 0:32:28.660
<v Speaker 6>I don't know the rules? Anybody, raise your hand now. Marvin, Dylan,

0:32:28.700 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 6>did you know the rule that was invoked nine minutes

0:32:31.980 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 6>to go in the second quarter on this Jared Goff

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.420
<v Speaker 6>play with the ball going backwards?

0:32:37.340 --> 0:32:38.260
<v Speaker 4>Marvin, no?

0:32:38.700 --> 0:32:41.110
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not. Dylan? Did not. Mm-hmm.

0:32:41.170 --> 0:32:41.530
<v Speaker 1>Paulie?

0:32:42.050 --> 0:32:43.910
<v Speaker 4>No, and when it was explained, I know you're going

0:32:43.930 --> 0:32:45.310
<v Speaker 4>to play the cut, I was sitting there going, is

0:32:45.390 --> 0:32:46.190
<v Speaker 4>this new?

0:32:46.410 --> 0:32:46.570
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:47.050 --> 0:32:47.310
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:32:47.510 --> 0:32:50.030
<v Speaker 6>Right, because you grew up, grandma told you, ball goes backwards.

0:32:50.290 --> 0:32:51.750
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, learned that when I was four.

0:32:51.890 --> 0:32:52.070
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:32:52.750 --> 0:32:53.090
<v Speaker 1>Fritzie?

0:32:53.490 --> 0:32:54.250
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had no idea.

0:32:54.270 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a fun one.

0:32:55.010 --> 0:32:57.370
<v Speaker 6>So we're 0 for 5 here, and not only 0

0:32:57.370 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 6>for 5, I'm watching the game live, and then I

0:32:59.130 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 6>flipped over, Red Zone had Pereira on TV live too,

0:33:02.700 --> 0:33:05.020
<v Speaker 6>so we all heard this in real time.

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.340
<v Speaker 4>A rule, and then on the feed.

0:33:07.940 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean, this is a moment in the game that

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.660
<v Speaker 6>is a touchdown for the New Orleans Saints.

0:33:14.890 --> 0:33:16.969
<v Speaker 4>Back on Not So Fast, Paps and Pearl off here

0:33:17.010 --> 0:33:18.969
<v Speaker 4>at NBC Sports Now. This is the clip joint. That

0:33:18.990 --> 0:33:21.380
<v Speaker 4>was Tony Reale and the crew a couple hours ago

0:33:21.410 --> 0:33:24.380
<v Speaker 4>on the Dan Pats show, chopping up that play halfway

0:33:24.460 --> 0:33:27.500
<v Speaker 4>through the Saints-Lions game. Pearl, I'm going to yield the

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 4>floor to you. What did you see on that play?

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:30.980
<v Speaker 2>I don't want the floor.

0:33:31.020 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't want the floor. This is

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 4>so obvious. You go first.

0:33:34.780 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they.

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.260
<v Speaker 3>Kind of ruled that it was his intention, Jared Goff's intention,

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.740
<v Speaker 3>to throw the ball forward. According to the rule book,

0:33:41.780 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>and this is not a new rule, Paul, this is

0:33:44.580 --> 0:33:48.210
<v Speaker 3>actually a forward pass. And Mike Pereira, of course, explained it,

0:33:48.740 --> 0:33:52.660
<v Speaker 3>Fox's officiating expert. He said, Goff had started his throwing motion,

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.270
<v Speaker 3>throwing motion starts, hand going up, then it's hit, ball comes.

0:33:56.130 --> 0:33:58.350
<v Speaker 2>Loose, his intent was to throw it forward.

0:33:58.650 --> 0:34:00.930
<v Speaker 3>And since that motion had already started, which was a

0:34:00.950 --> 0:34:03.290
<v Speaker 3>bit controversial, that's going to be a forward pass no

0:34:03.310 --> 0:34:05.630
<v Speaker 3>matter where it lands. Then if you went on social media, Paul,

0:34:05.890 --> 0:34:09.020
<v Speaker 3>there was about 100 clips of Similar cases where they

0:34:09.060 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 3>did not.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Call it a forward pass, where they called that exact

0:34:11.780 --> 0:34:12.340
<v Speaker 2>play a fumble.

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.380
<v Speaker 4>I have so many issues with this. First of all,

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 4>his intent has nothing to do with this. I assume

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.830
<v Speaker 4>every quarterback is intending to throw the ball forward. Hence,

0:34:20.130 --> 0:34:22.589
<v Speaker 4>if it was a forward pass, by definition, it would

0:34:22.610 --> 0:34:26.950
<v Speaker 4>have gone forward. Cracked, Andrew. Here's the thing. The other

0:34:26.989 --> 0:34:29.930
<v Speaker 4>thing is, I thought that if a defensive lineman or

0:34:29.950 --> 0:34:33.140
<v Speaker 4>a defender hits the quarterback and the ball goes squirrelly,

0:34:33.780 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 4>It's almost a fumble by default, even if it went

0:34:36.300 --> 0:34:38.980
<v Speaker 4>forward and rolled. I've seen that called the past few years.

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.779
<v Speaker 4>This is not a forward pass. His intent has nothing

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 4>to do with it. If it goes backwards, by definition,

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 4>it's a lateral. I mean, this is day one football stuff.

0:34:47.900 --> 0:34:48.510
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.410
<v Speaker 3>Okay, say I had the football like this, and I

0:34:50.450 --> 0:34:52.910
<v Speaker 3>was throwing forward. Someone knocked my arm, and it went

0:34:52.950 --> 0:34:55.410
<v Speaker 3>like that. You might call that a forward pass.

0:34:55.730 --> 0:34:58.310
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't because it's still at some juncture has to

0:34:58.350 --> 0:35:00.230
<v Speaker 4>go forward while leaving your hand. Let's say it goes

0:35:00.330 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 4>forward and batted backward. It's by forward. But if it

0:35:04.060 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 4>never goes forward, it can only be one other thing,

0:35:06.700 --> 0:35:10.500
<v Speaker 4>a lateral, which is unintentional lateral, or you can define

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 4>it as a fumble. If I'm the Saints, I don't

0:35:12.340 --> 0:35:15.250
<v Speaker 4>know how much they complained about this, but this is debilitating.

0:35:15.270 --> 0:35:16.870
<v Speaker 4>They went in for a touchdown this play. This wasn't

0:35:16.910 --> 0:35:18.010
<v Speaker 4>just some average scrum.

0:35:18.230 --> 0:35:20.290
<v Speaker 2>Okay, at least they didn't add a second to the

0:35:20.330 --> 0:35:22.190
<v Speaker 2>clock like college football. Can we at least give the

0:35:22.250 --> 0:35:23.049
<v Speaker 2>NFL credit for that?

0:35:23.190 --> 0:35:25.130
<v Speaker 4>It does feel like they invented a new rule in

0:35:25.170 --> 0:35:27.069
<v Speaker 4>the offseason and just happened to launch it on us

0:35:27.150 --> 0:35:31.649
<v Speaker 4>Americans in the middle of a random game. They're like, hey, Lions-Saints-

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.140
<v Speaker 4>No one's really paying attention to that one. Let's just

0:35:34.390 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 4>jack this rule into you.

0:35:35.570 --> 0:35:38.530
<v Speaker 2>It's not a new rule. That's it. Okay. It's not.

0:35:38.570 --> 0:35:40.670
<v Speaker 3>Well, you said it like they put it in March quietly,

0:35:40.710 --> 0:35:41.950
<v Speaker 3>the owners meeting. That's not what happened.

0:35:41.969 --> 0:35:43.129
<v Speaker 4>I think that's exactly what happened.

0:35:43.150 --> 0:35:44.330
<v Speaker 2>That's not what happened. Okay.

0:35:44.489 --> 0:35:47.330
<v Speaker 4>They've never called this rule. Okay. Then for the past

0:35:47.469 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 4>decade or so, they've had this rule and never used it.

0:35:50.410 --> 0:35:51.989
<v Speaker 2>You got to look into that. I don't think it's

0:35:52.030 --> 0:35:54.910
<v Speaker 2>a new rule. Actually, Mike Pereira said like, yeah, of course,

0:35:54.969 --> 0:35:57.180
<v Speaker 2>his intention. And everyone said his intention was.

0:35:57.620 --> 0:35:59.270
<v Speaker 4>Of course his intention is to throw it forward. That's

0:35:59.290 --> 0:36:01.009
<v Speaker 4>what quarterbacks do for a living. All right, next up,

0:36:01.510 --> 0:36:04.730
<v Speaker 4>Texas coach Steve Sarkeesian. Oh, he had an interesting weekend. Now,

0:36:05.190 --> 0:36:07.390
<v Speaker 4>at halftime, he probably wasn't thinking that he was going

0:36:07.410 --> 0:36:09.770
<v Speaker 4>to have a really good postgame news conference. And then

0:36:09.890 --> 0:36:12.779
<v Speaker 4>his team came back. They beat Ryan Day in a

0:36:12.980 --> 0:36:15.580
<v Speaker 4>great Saturday night game. And here's Sark after the game.

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.580
<v Speaker 8>I definitely think it was helpful because we could be

0:36:19.620 --> 0:36:21.980
<v Speaker 8>like some other teams and we could play Jones Jr.

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.089
<v Speaker 8>high tonight and win 66 to nothing. And I don't

0:36:25.110 --> 0:36:27.700
<v Speaker 8>know what that does for us. What I think it

0:36:27.739 --> 0:36:29.989
<v Speaker 8>did for us tonight is we found out that we can.

0:36:31.180 --> 0:36:33.430
<v Speaker 8>And we've been close, and we've been knocking on the door.

0:36:34.890 --> 0:36:37.130
<v Speaker 8>And so I do think that that's helpful for us,

0:36:37.410 --> 0:36:39.469
<v Speaker 8>that we got an opportunity to play in a game

0:36:39.530 --> 0:36:42.950
<v Speaker 8>like this before we got into conference play against a

0:36:43.030 --> 0:36:48.030
<v Speaker 8>lead opponent and come out on top. Surely that's helpful

0:36:48.090 --> 0:36:50.379
<v Speaker 8>for us moving forward from a mentality standpoint.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.780
<v Speaker 4>Pearl, no matter what you think of Texas football and Sark,

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.110
<v Speaker 4>you've got to love what he says there. More big games,

0:36:55.210 --> 0:36:58.170
<v Speaker 4>prime time against big opponents. They're not scared to schedule

0:36:58.190 --> 0:37:00.430
<v Speaker 4>him at Texas. They still played Texas State last week.

0:37:00.469 --> 0:37:02.989
<v Speaker 4>He kind of glazed over that one, Sark. But, yes,

0:37:03.010 --> 0:37:04.049
<v Speaker 4>you've got to agree with him there.

0:37:04.290 --> 0:37:07.450
<v Speaker 3>Well, last year, 14-7 loss to Ohio State in Columbus

0:37:07.670 --> 0:37:09.690
<v Speaker 3>probably cost them the playoff because they had three losses

0:37:09.710 --> 0:37:10.930
<v Speaker 3>with two losses they get in.

0:37:10.969 --> 0:37:11.209
<v Speaker 4>Sure.

0:37:11.550 --> 0:37:14.390
<v Speaker 2>I still think overall college football is... needs to be

0:37:14.430 --> 0:37:16.830
<v Speaker 2>more lenient on these teams who lose.

0:37:16.610 --> 0:37:19.330
<v Speaker 3>Those out-of-conference games. Because I want to see Texas-Ohio State

0:37:19.430 --> 0:37:21.730
<v Speaker 3>every weekend. Unfortunately, you don't get that. Right.

0:37:21.810 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 4>And I don't think Ohio State should be dinged that

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.939
<v Speaker 4>much for a loss. They played heavyweight on the road

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.420
<v Speaker 4>and came close to winning that game. A player two

0:37:28.580 --> 0:37:30.700
<v Speaker 4>in the fourth quarter and they win that game. But

0:37:30.780 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 4>I like what Sark is saying there. Now, Will he

0:37:33.140 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 4>keep doing so going forward? Will he schedule out of conference?

0:37:35.700 --> 0:37:37.990
<v Speaker 4>Will he schedule USC again and all those big weights?

0:37:38.010 --> 0:37:39.450
<v Speaker 2>Well, a big part of it, do they go to

0:37:39.450 --> 0:37:40.750
<v Speaker 2>24 teams in the playoff?

0:37:40.790 --> 0:37:42.990
<v Speaker 3>Then you can schedule anybody because a team like Texas

0:37:43.070 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 3>is pretty much guaranteed to make it in. The big

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.660
<v Speaker 3>story is here, they beat Ohio State. That was massive

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:49.260
<v Speaker 3>for this program.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder what he's thinking at halftime. I wonder if

0:37:51.140 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 4>you're a coach at halftime, do you ever think, God,

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.060
<v Speaker 4>I don't look forward to that news conference after the

0:37:55.100 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 4>game because you're at home, all the stars are out,

0:37:57.500 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 4>and you laid an egg in the first half.

0:37:58.940 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, listen, he was probably just as surprised

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.060
<v Speaker 3>as the rest of us. They came away with it.

0:38:03.380 --> 0:38:06.820
<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you want to feel better about yourself, I advise.

0:38:06.420 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 3>You watch this next clip joint because Cleveland Browns' Todd

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.260
<v Speaker 3>Munkin had a worse day than pretty much anybody.

0:38:12.100 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 2>He commented on the quarterback situation, which is not good.

0:38:17.140 --> 0:38:19.770
<v Speaker 7>I'm sure as hell not firing me. I'm not firing

0:38:19.810 --> 0:38:21.610
<v Speaker 7>our staff. I'm not giving it all of our players.

0:38:22.050 --> 0:38:24.510
<v Speaker 7>So he happens to be one of 53. We'll analyze

0:38:24.570 --> 0:38:26.370
<v Speaker 7>everything that we do. It's not just him.

0:38:26.670 --> 0:38:26.890
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:38:26.910 --> 0:38:29.370
<v Speaker 7>We're, we're putting this on Deshaun.

0:38:29.910 --> 0:38:30.230
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:38:30.270 --> 0:38:31.570
<v Speaker 7>Which is unfair.

0:38:31.590 --> 0:38:32.350
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:38:32.650 --> 0:38:36.589
<v Speaker 7>And whatever there is externally doesn't matter to me. That

0:38:36.630 --> 0:38:39.870
<v Speaker 7>doesn't affect me. That has nothing to do with my decision-making.

0:38:40.750 --> 0:38:43.300
<v Speaker 4>I rarely feel bad for people who make $ 5 million

0:38:43.340 --> 0:38:45.760
<v Speaker 4>a year, but this guy, he's got Tom Izzo voice

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.070
<v Speaker 4>and it's September and, He looks like a school teacher

0:38:48.090 --> 0:38:49.819
<v Speaker 4>at the end of a hard school year. He looks

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.780
<v Speaker 4>like worn out. It's September 11th, 12th, 13th.

0:38:53.020 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what? He did bring some of this

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.350
<v Speaker 2>on himself. By taking the job? Yes, that. He could

0:38:59.370 --> 0:38:59.890
<v Speaker 2>have said no.

0:39:00.030 --> 0:39:02.830
<v Speaker 3>But also, we watched the Browns in the preseason, and

0:39:02.850 --> 0:39:06.390
<v Speaker 3>Shador Sanders was playing better than Deshaun Watson. But Deshaun

0:39:06.430 --> 0:39:08.589
<v Speaker 3>Watson's making all this money, and the owner said, I'm

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 3>paying this guy $ 220 million to at least give him

0:39:11.460 --> 0:39:11.959
<v Speaker 3>some starts.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because you and

0:39:13.860 --> 0:39:15.900
<v Speaker 4>I talked about this before, before the show even started

0:39:15.940 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 4>not so fast. And we said, I don't believe Todd Munkin,

0:39:19.100 --> 0:39:22.060
<v Speaker 4>by choice, would start Deshaun Watson, because that's not a

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.860
<v Speaker 4>better football decision. Deshaun Watson has not looked good the

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.609
<v Speaker 4>past few years and hasn't really been that healthy. I

0:39:27.790 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 4>think this was a management ownership decision to start. Deshaun Watson.

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:32.899
<v Speaker 4>They paid all this money, and they're trying to right

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.740
<v Speaker 4>a four-year wrong. and hoping they would play well. He stinks.

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.800
<v Speaker 4>He's overpaid, he's unlikable, and he's got lots of baggage.

0:39:40.140 --> 0:39:42.180
<v Speaker 4>Let's start this guy. Go ahead, Todd Munkin, you figure

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<v Speaker 4>it out.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:46.069
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what about the theory that they're tanking and he

0:39:46.090 --> 0:39:48.610
<v Speaker 3>can lose more games than he can win? Even though, listen,

0:39:48.950 --> 0:39:50.290
<v Speaker 3>he was bad. He picked it up a little bit

0:39:50.310 --> 0:39:52.390
<v Speaker 3>in the second half. I'm not sure any quarterback would

0:39:52.430 --> 0:39:54.469
<v Speaker 3>win games in that situation. The team is not good.

0:39:54.489 --> 0:39:56.770
<v Speaker 4>Well, if it's organizational tanking, then Todd Munkin has to

0:39:56.790 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 4>say to management at some point, hey, okay, I'll do this,

0:39:59.500 --> 0:40:02.180
<v Speaker 4>but my contract is set for next year. If we

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:05.730
<v Speaker 4>go 0-17, which is actually in play... I'm guaranteed I

0:40:05.730 --> 0:40:07.450
<v Speaker 4>have a job next year because if I tank for you,

0:40:07.910 --> 0:40:09.150
<v Speaker 4>you know what will happen. If you get the number

0:40:09.170 --> 0:40:11.939
<v Speaker 4>one pick, all of a sudden this guy wants that job,

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.620
<v Speaker 4>that guy wants that job, and he's one and done.

0:40:13.739 --> 0:40:15.859
<v Speaker 3>Well, just to keep it within the clip joint, what

0:40:15.900 --> 0:40:17.500
<v Speaker 3>if Arch Manning is the number one pick and he says,

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 3>let's bring Sark into the NFL.

0:40:19.620 --> 0:40:20.799
<v Speaker 2>I like Steve Sharkeesian.

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.660
<v Speaker 3>Then Todd Munkin gets $ 5 million for one year and

0:40:23.780 --> 0:40:26.569
<v Speaker 3>walks away. I mean, again, this is not a good

0:40:26.590 --> 0:40:27.180
<v Speaker 3>weekend for him.

0:40:27.260 --> 0:40:28.630
<v Speaker 2>He's in a terrible spot.

0:40:28.850 --> 0:40:30.589
<v Speaker 4>It's only four months left to go, Coach. All right,

0:40:30.610 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 4>coming up next. It's time for constructive criticism, the feel-good,

0:40:34.140 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 4>and much, much more. Stick around. Not So Fast after

0:40:36.580 --> 0:40:36.879
<v Speaker 4>the break.

0:40:37.780 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Back on Not So Fast, I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst,

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<v Speaker 3>NBC Sports Now, Peacock. Paul, the big game tonight. Patrick

0:40:44.810 --> 0:40:45.650
<v Speaker 3>Mahomes is back.

0:40:45.790 --> 0:40:47.310
<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs host the Broncos.

0:40:47.330 --> 0:40:49.410
<v Speaker 4>What do you expect? This is a hammer Monday night

0:40:49.450 --> 0:40:51.710
<v Speaker 4>game right off the gate. This is fantastic. You know,

0:40:51.750 --> 0:40:53.810
<v Speaker 4>you said before when Mahomes was hurt and kind of

0:40:53.910 --> 0:40:55.730
<v Speaker 4>not sure whether he was going to play the first month,

0:40:56.250 --> 0:40:58.130
<v Speaker 4>you've got to face that pass rush, Nick Benito and

0:40:58.150 --> 0:41:01.950
<v Speaker 4>the crew. They're as good as... As good as the Dolphins,

0:41:02.230 --> 0:41:03.910
<v Speaker 4>I should say as good as the Texans. They're as

0:41:03.930 --> 0:41:05.310
<v Speaker 4>good as anybody with the pass rush.

0:41:05.330 --> 0:41:07.190
<v Speaker 2>They've led the league in sacks the last two years.

0:41:07.210 --> 0:41:08.690
<v Speaker 2>Nick Benito is fired.

0:41:08.810 --> 0:41:10.370
<v Speaker 4>So if you're a Chiefs fan, it's like an exciting

0:41:10.530 --> 0:41:11.410
<v Speaker 4>but concerning game.

0:41:11.630 --> 0:41:14.250
<v Speaker 3>So if you're the Chiefs, you want to hand the

0:41:14.290 --> 0:41:16.470
<v Speaker 3>ball off a lot. You've got Ken Walker from the Seahawks.

0:41:16.489 --> 0:41:17.750
<v Speaker 4>Ken Walker.

0:41:18.430 --> 0:41:20.190
<v Speaker 3>Ken Walker, as he is on the depth chart, the

0:41:20.230 --> 0:41:23.129
<v Speaker 3>official depth chart, formerly Kenneth Walker. And they have a rookie,

0:41:23.210 --> 0:41:25.549
<v Speaker 3>Emma Johnson, who's really good at running back. So I

0:41:25.590 --> 0:41:29.780
<v Speaker 3>think they're practicing all August with Patrick Mahomes under center,

0:41:29.820 --> 0:41:32.529
<v Speaker 3>which is not usual for him. They want to run, run, run,

0:41:33.060 --> 0:41:36.580
<v Speaker 3>and not let Nick Bonito and everybody run after Patrick Mahomes.

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.339
<v Speaker 4>And how funny would it be, after all these teams

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:40.980
<v Speaker 4>scoring 30 on Sunday, that this is another game where

0:41:41.020 --> 0:41:43.580
<v Speaker 4>the two teams who score points for a living go

0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 4>under 30, kind of like the Rams went 7th.

0:41:45.700 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to see Jalen Waddell.

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 3>To me, the Broncos adding the former Dolphins wide receiver,

0:41:51.020 --> 0:41:51.860
<v Speaker 3>it's a whole new element.

0:41:51.900 --> 0:41:53.620
<v Speaker 2>Everyone keeps talking about him. They're going to line him

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.590
<v Speaker 2>up all over. I think he could be really outstanding.

0:41:56.610 --> 0:41:58.109
<v Speaker 4>And they were pretty good last year. If they looked

0:41:58.130 --> 0:42:00.189
<v Speaker 4>at the offense with Bo Nix adding that type of weapon,

0:42:00.230 --> 0:42:03.310
<v Speaker 4>that underneath weapon, he's not prime Tyree Kelly. He doesn't

0:42:03.330 --> 0:42:05.219
<v Speaker 4>have that level of explosiveness, but he is a great player.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I picked the Broncos to win the Super Bowl

0:42:08.500 --> 0:42:09.700
<v Speaker 3>against the Rams.

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.919
<v Speaker 4>So would you poo-poo yourself by picking against them tonight,

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:13.620
<v Speaker 4>or should we save that?

0:42:14.500 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Let's save that.

0:42:15.380 --> 0:42:16.820
<v Speaker 3>I've got to be honest, I did not know the

0:42:16.860 --> 0:42:18.219
<v Speaker 3>Ravens were going to look that good, or I might

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:19.259
<v Speaker 3>have thought twice about that.

0:42:19.340 --> 0:42:21.610
<v Speaker 4>It's time for a little constructive criticism off the weekend.

0:42:21.660 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 4>Thoughts on what we're wearing, football, food. Whatever you got.

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<v Speaker 4>First one, Perloff. Let's see what we got. Constructive criticism.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, look, it's me. Let me read this one, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>Against the grain, at their peaks, Carson Wentz is the

0:42:35.820 --> 0:42:38.850
<v Speaker 3>most talented player in the Vikings QB room over Kyler

0:42:38.890 --> 0:42:39.410
<v Speaker 3>Murray and J.J.

0:42:39.530 --> 0:42:40.070
<v Speaker 2>McCarthy.

0:42:40.390 --> 0:42:44.629
<v Speaker 3>Don't think it's particularly close. This is from August 12, 2026. Now,

0:42:44.790 --> 0:42:49.730
<v Speaker 3>maybe I was overstating it, but clearly the Vikings got better, unfortunately,

0:42:49.750 --> 0:42:52.430
<v Speaker 3>when Kyler Murray got hurt and Carson Wentz came in

0:42:52.450 --> 0:42:54.410
<v Speaker 3>the game. Now, Wentz was shaky to start with. But

0:42:54.430 --> 0:42:57.750
<v Speaker 3>then he just started targeting Justin Jefferson. I've thought all

0:42:57.770 --> 0:43:01.570
<v Speaker 3>along Wentz is probably the best Kevin O'Connell coach quarterback

0:43:02.050 --> 0:43:03.310
<v Speaker 3>in that Vikings QB room.

0:43:03.770 --> 0:43:05.350
<v Speaker 2>And it played out great on Sunday.

0:43:05.630 --> 0:43:08.310
<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand why Wentz didn't even get consideration as

0:43:08.350 --> 0:43:08.770
<v Speaker 3>a starter.

0:43:09.469 --> 0:43:11.370
<v Speaker 2>I don't get the Kyler Murray thing.

0:43:11.690 --> 0:43:13.450
<v Speaker 3>I always thought Kyler Murray was going to have trouble

0:43:13.570 --> 0:43:16.430
<v Speaker 3>in this offense or trouble staying healthy, and that's what happened.

0:43:16.450 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 4>I like this total setup email. This is like a

0:43:18.300 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 4>third-person email. tweet to the Not So Fast show. You know,

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.340
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you. If you don't remember Pete Carson Wentz,

0:43:24.420 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 4>he was a fantastic runner and a big, strong passer.

0:43:28.460 --> 0:43:29.700
<v Speaker 4>No one's going to think of him as the most

0:43:29.739 --> 0:43:31.779
<v Speaker 4>physically talented guy in the room anymore, but there was

0:43:31.820 --> 0:43:33.730
<v Speaker 4>a time that he was because Kyler Murray didn't have

0:43:33.770 --> 0:43:34.989
<v Speaker 4>power as a runner. He had a lot of speed.

0:43:35.230 --> 0:43:36.589
<v Speaker 3>Is it okay, by the way, that I called out

0:43:36.630 --> 0:43:38.890
<v Speaker 3>a tweet that it's sort of right compared to one

0:43:38.910 --> 0:43:40.610
<v Speaker 3>of the many, many bad takes that I have on

0:43:40.630 --> 0:43:40.910
<v Speaker 3>social media?

0:43:40.930 --> 0:43:43.069
<v Speaker 4>It is right on brand for you, Pearl. All right,

0:43:43.170 --> 0:43:46.060
<v Speaker 4>next up, constructive criticism. Let's see what we have coming

0:43:46.100 --> 0:43:46.439
<v Speaker 4>up next.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Chip in Florida, are you doing hair treatments? You seem

0:43:51.380 --> 0:43:52.980
<v Speaker 4>to have more hair than you did a while back.

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:57.300
<v Speaker 4>That's to me. Let's check. I thought I was fading fast.

0:43:58.700 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 4>I did trim it up a little bit. I think

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 4>by keeping it tight, I look like I have more.

0:44:03.260 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 4>But should I go on record here?

0:44:05.700 --> 0:44:06.950
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. If you are getting them, you need

0:44:06.989 --> 0:44:07.490
<v Speaker 2>to pay more.

0:44:08.270 --> 0:44:10.509
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if I got hair treatments, I should ask my

0:44:10.550 --> 0:44:13.750
<v Speaker 4>money back because they missed. No, it's a slow retreat.

0:44:14.390 --> 0:44:16.549
<v Speaker 4>It's 20 years in the making, and we're holding on.

0:44:17.070 --> 0:44:18.989
<v Speaker 4>just by this much, but thank you for that.

0:44:19.150 --> 0:44:21.730
<v Speaker 2>Would you ever go Jason Statham and just say goodbye?

0:44:21.870 --> 0:44:26.140
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or go Brian Urlacher and load it up for

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:27.220
<v Speaker 4>the back half of the career.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.180
<v Speaker 2>I just compared you to Jason Statham. I would take

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:29.610
<v Speaker 2>that if I were you.

0:44:29.620 --> 0:44:31.180
<v Speaker 4>I would take that in a second. Of course, I'm

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 4>just like a wimp compared to him. All right, next up,

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.620
<v Speaker 4>constructive criticism. Let's see what we have here, Pearl. Oh,

0:44:36.660 --> 0:44:38.180
<v Speaker 4>this is from me. Look at me with the setup.

0:44:38.610 --> 0:44:41.010
<v Speaker 4>My wife just yelled down, we made a little something.

0:44:41.510 --> 0:44:43.810
<v Speaker 4>My wife was cooking upstairs with one of my children.

0:44:43.830 --> 0:44:45.210
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure which one. I can't keep track of

0:44:45.230 --> 0:44:48.260
<v Speaker 4>their names during football season. And she brings a big,

0:44:48.500 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 4>huge tub of Italian sausage, peppers, and onions, then rolls,

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.910
<v Speaker 4>and the optional marinara sauce. And I would marry her

0:44:56.969 --> 0:44:58.910
<v Speaker 4>all over again. What are your thoughts on that dish, Pearl?

0:44:59.050 --> 0:45:00.390
<v Speaker 2>That looks amazing.

0:45:00.410 --> 0:45:02.850
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is the most self-serving constructive criticism we've

0:45:02.890 --> 0:45:04.550
<v Speaker 3>ever done. I don't think we should be able to

0:45:04.590 --> 0:45:07.070
<v Speaker 3>do this anymore. Scott's in my ear, our producer, saying,

0:45:07.410 --> 0:45:09.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, you guys could get posts from other people

0:45:09.980 --> 0:45:11.100
<v Speaker 3>as well, but that looks amazing.

0:45:12.100 --> 0:45:14.460
<v Speaker 4>Well, we're working, and maybe we'll get a picture of

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.020
<v Speaker 4>Scott's new daughter so he can feel like he's part

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.460
<v Speaker 4>of the team. But, you know, where does that rank?

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.970
<v Speaker 4>Sausage and peppers as a game-day treat? Where does that rank?

0:45:22.140 --> 0:45:23.969
<v Speaker 2>That's incredible. I don't know why.

0:45:24.050 --> 0:45:26.469
<v Speaker 3>I never think to make that, though, but sausage is

0:45:26.810 --> 0:45:28.210
<v Speaker 3>a go-to in the Perloff household.

0:45:28.230 --> 0:45:30.290
<v Speaker 4>We love sausage. You're going to edit that as you will.

0:45:30.310 --> 0:45:32.870
<v Speaker 4>All right, it's time for the feel-good. If you watched

0:45:32.950 --> 0:45:36.129
<v Speaker 4>on NBC, Iowa State versus Iowa on Saturday night. Really

0:45:36.170 --> 0:45:39.410
<v Speaker 4>tight game. Surprisingly hit the under. This is.

0:45:41.060 --> 0:45:43.460
<v Speaker 4>This is what they do every week at Iowa, the

0:45:43.540 --> 0:45:47.029
<v Speaker 4>Stead Family Children's Hospital. End of the first quarter, the fans,

0:45:47.090 --> 0:45:49.590
<v Speaker 4>the players, the coaches, everybody waves up to the kids

0:45:49.610 --> 0:45:53.090
<v Speaker 4>at the Stead Family Children's Hospital. What a great tradition.

0:45:53.130 --> 0:45:54.630
<v Speaker 4>My wife and kids were sitting next to me, and

0:45:54.670 --> 0:45:57.150
<v Speaker 4>they hadn't watched an Iowa home game before. And they're like,

0:45:57.230 --> 0:45:58.489
<v Speaker 4>this is the coolest thing of all time.

0:45:59.130 --> 0:45:59.930
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's incredible.

0:46:00.390 --> 0:46:02.670
<v Speaker 3>I've always found it so interesting the way the hospital

0:46:02.690 --> 0:46:03.890
<v Speaker 3>is placed next to the stadium.

0:46:05.050 --> 0:46:06.870
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it many, many times, and it still makes

0:46:06.910 --> 0:46:07.770
<v Speaker 2>me feel good every time.

0:46:08.110 --> 0:46:10.390
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's really cool. Iowa's been doing this for a

0:46:10.430 --> 0:46:12.320
<v Speaker 4>long time now. It's on brand, and the other team

0:46:12.340 --> 0:46:13.180
<v Speaker 4>gets involved as well.

0:46:13.340 --> 0:46:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially, I mean, and also, that's a pretty good rivalry.

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 3>We have a lot of DP show fans in Iowa,

0:46:18.700 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and this has been heated for many, many years.

0:46:20.540 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 4>Well, those games are kind of the sure things to

0:46:22.180 --> 0:46:23.859
<v Speaker 4>me of the college football weekend. When you have, like,

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 4>the Apple Cup, or if you have the Iron Bowl,

0:46:25.980 --> 0:46:28.319
<v Speaker 4>or if you have Iowa State, I always lean towards

0:46:28.340 --> 0:46:30.529
<v Speaker 4>watching them because they're almost always close. I think in

0:46:30.550 --> 0:46:33.049
<v Speaker 4>the past 10 years, seven of those are three-point games

0:46:33.070 --> 0:46:33.930
<v Speaker 4>with Iowa State.

0:46:34.190 --> 0:46:34.830
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Paul, we mentioned keep it friendly for Chiefs

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<v Speaker 3>and Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to bet this one? You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>As I mentioned earlier, I'm already out on the survivor

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<v Speaker 3>pool thanks to the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't exactly have the greatest weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got to be honest, I am leaning Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if they try and protect Patrick Mahomes tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like the Broncos are going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>house on fire to get after their rival.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you look at games like this? When you

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<v Speaker 4>have a heavyweight battle, Broncos, Chiefs, or Texans versus Bills,

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<v Speaker 4>do you really care who wins that game or are

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<v Speaker 4>you looking for the nuance?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, for me, Patrick Mahomes' health. Patrick Mahomes, people in

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<v Speaker 3>KC are saying he looks amazing. Everyone picked their Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl pick and nobody had the Chiefs. If Mahomes looks

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<v Speaker 3>good tonight, that's going to change.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you look last week, Mahomes was asked about

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<v Speaker 4>his knee again. He goes, we're done. We're done with

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<v Speaker 4>this topic. I like him being angry because he's so

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<v Speaker 4>far past the knee situation.

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<v Speaker 3>And what about a Mary Travis Kelsey? He was sort

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<v Speaker 3>of downgraded last year.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't use him a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he going to be better or worse now that

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<v Speaker 3>it's official with Taylor?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, married guys usually put on 15 pounds in the

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<v Speaker 4>first year of marriage, so look for that when you're

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<v Speaker 4>watching the game. Do you have a pick?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I'm going Denver.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going Jalen Waddell is going to make a splash,

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<v Speaker 3>has a long touchdown tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Close game, but Bo Nix gets away with a win.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you got?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go Chiefs just to be countered a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit. I believe in the Broncos as a for

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<v Speaker 4>the entire season, but tonight on Monday Night Football. How

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<v Speaker 4>do you feel about week one? How do you feel

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<v Speaker 4>about your picks, your warm takes? How do you feel

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<v Speaker 4>about week one?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe all the scoring. It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, the Chargers are my big disappointment. The Cowboys defense,

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<v Speaker 3>my second big disappointment. I am really, really curious about

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<v Speaker 3>how bad the Browns are going to be this year.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you look at the other side of it,

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<v Speaker 4>the Arizona Cardinals? Are you like, nice little story for

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<v Speaker 4>one week or a nice story for the month?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to buy a Jeremiah Love jersey. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>kidding me? I'm all in, Paul. You know me.

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<v Speaker 4>A Tyler Algier jersey?

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you feel about the Bears?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel good about the Bears. I hope they keep

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<v Speaker 4>scoring a lot of points.

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<v Speaker 2>59 points a game?

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<v Speaker 4>And maybe playing a little defense. All right, that's it

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<v Speaker 4>for us. Tune in tomorrow. We'll have some more on

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<v Speaker 4>this game, the Monday Night Football wrap-up. Tune in to

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<v Speaker 4>the Dan Patrick Show tomorrow. DP will be back right

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<v Speaker 4>here on NBC Sports and NBC Sports Now. But that's

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<v Speaker 4>all for us. Week one in the books. Tune in

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<v Speaker 4>to Monday Night Football. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care.