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Speaker 1: we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. This

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Speaker 1: to comment on this story today. Adrian, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: California instituted another crazy law. It didn't work, it's too expensive,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there's so many issues going on in California. You know,

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Speaker 4: Jo Bob, It's political. Gavin Newsom has always been about

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Speaker 1: But joy in Florida. How do the illegal immigrants get

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely. I mean, we know police officers, military, ICE agents,

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're a citizen and you messed up,

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Speaker 2: This is absolutely crazy again, time and time again. It's

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Speaker 4: Of course not because it's it's like Adrian said, rules

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Speaker 2: If clean energy is the future, great, but it shouldn't

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Speaker 3: And if the energy source works, then it should be

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Speaker 1: Joey. So for the New York Times article, if you're

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Speaker 4: whole one eighty on that we love immigrants, we love refugees,

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Speaker 4: except for if they're white. So will she lay her

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Speaker 4: bravery on the line for the white South Africans? Will

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Speaker 4: she do that too?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: I wish I do think she probably has a proclivity

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Speaker 1: for brown immigrants, and being the son of an immigrant,

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Speaker 1: I wish I would have known. I would have committed

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Speaker 1: several crimes in her district and been able to get

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Speaker 1: off scott free, because I guess that's how the justice

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Speaker 1: system works in her eyes again allegedly, because she's just

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Speaker 1: been indicted, not necessarily found guilty yet. Thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for Jordan that really appreciate you taking

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Speaker 1: the time. Thank you, thank you, thank you coming up here.

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Speaker 1: On Turning Point tonight, we got a great clip from

447
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Speaker 1: Alex Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast and also woke Wednesday. Oh coohea,

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 6: You're the fifth generation owner of Frownies. Is face taping

450
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 6: the best all natural alternative two botox?

451
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 7: Well, I wouldn't say that face taping is, but I

452
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Speaker 7: would definitely.

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Speaker 8: Say that frownies are, because there's a difference between just

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Speaker 8: traditional face taping and frownies.

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Speaker 7: Wait, I didn't know that. What is the difference.

456
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Speaker 8: Well, most face tapes, you're gonna have silicone scar tape

457
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Speaker 8: or like a kinesiology tape, and they're soft and flexible,

458
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Speaker 8: and frownies is different if you've used them and I

459
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 8: know you have. Frownie is different because they actually dry

460
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 8: hard and stiff, more like a cast or a splint

461
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 8: for your facial muscles, and frownies are actually targeting your

462
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Speaker 8: facial muscles versus taping, And people who advocate for taping

463
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Speaker 8: talk a lot more about the skin and just the

464
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Speaker 8: surface of your skin. So okay, it's kind of a

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Speaker 8: whole different mechanism. Can I ask how old you are? Yes,

466
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Speaker 8: I am forty two.

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Speaker 7: You're forty two. Years old. Anything in your face at all? No, nothing, nothing.

468
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 7: All you do is use frownies at night. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: Do you ever get people that don't believe you online

472
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Speaker 6: all the time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean honestly, when I started being a part of

475
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 8: Frownies and really kind of the face of the brand

476
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty, I always felt good about my skin,

477
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 8: but I didn't really think much of it. And immediately

478
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Speaker 8: when we started going viral, people were coming out of

479
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Speaker 8: the woodworks like you're a liar, like.

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Speaker 7: You have botox.

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Speaker 8: And still to this day, so many people always, you know,

482
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Speaker 8: accuse me of having had botox or fillers or something,

483
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Speaker 8: and I was like, you think you think it looks

484
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Speaker 8: that good?

485
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Speaker 7: Well, and I think it's.

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Speaker 6: Funny too, because see, I have gotten those things before,

487
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Speaker 6: but it's been years since I've gotten it. There's nothing

488
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Speaker 6: in my face now, and so I like literally will

489
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Speaker 6: tell people like I don't have anything, and then they

490
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Speaker 6: accuse me of lying or whatever, and I'm like, well,

491
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Speaker 6: I'm doing okay. I think, yeah, okay, So how did

492
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Speaker 6: your family discover them? That face taping or frownies as

493
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Speaker 6: we know it now really works when it comes to

494
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Speaker 6: anti aging and preventing wrinkles.

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Speaker 8: Well, the business was started in eighteen eighty nine, right,

496
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Speaker 8: So this is all like family lore, like historical thing

497
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Speaker 8: stories passed down.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: So the story goes, my great great grandmother, Margaret Croson

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Speaker 8: and her daughter Alice kind of invented frownies. And Alice

501
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 8: was a concert pianist in a model and she played

502
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Speaker 8: the piano in a lot of like big Hollywood circles.

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Speaker 8: She played at the White House, So quite good, I guess, yeah.

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Speaker 8: But you know, when you're playing the piano or doing

505
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Speaker 8: anything now we're staring at our screens, you're constantly furrowing

506
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Speaker 8: your brow and in concentration.

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Speaker 7: That's kind of a concentration face.

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Speaker 8: But because she was doing the modeling and the things

509
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Speaker 8: like that, you know, she didn't want these lines in

510
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Speaker 8: between her brows. So somehow they came up with frownies.

511
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Speaker 8: And we're just doing it for themselves, and people started asking,

512
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Speaker 8: what are you doing? You know, it looks so good,

513
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 8: and so they started making it for friends and giving

514
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Speaker 8: it as gifts. And then as she started traveling more

515
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 8: and playing the piano, and this became a thing. Around

516
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Speaker 8: about that time, my great great grandfather died and he

517
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Speaker 8: was a part of like a barber supply company, and

518
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Speaker 8: somehow she like purchased out the rights to the rest

519
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Speaker 8: of the company from the other men that were involved

520
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Speaker 8: in it, and then she started manufacturing frownies under that

521
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Speaker 8: business name, and so she kind of kicked it off.

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Speaker 6: In the eighteen hundreds, there was a product called frownies

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Speaker 6: out there. Well, they originally were called wrinkle eradicators, okay,

524
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Speaker 6: and then very very early nineteen hundreds, like I think

525
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Speaker 6: we have a letter from like nineteen oh four or something,

526
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Speaker 6: the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission said you can't call

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Speaker 6: it wrinkle eradicators. This has to be evaluated by a doctor.

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Speaker 6: This is a medical claim, which we also have the letter.

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Speaker 8: From the doctor who evaluated and said, yes, indeed, you

530
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Speaker 8: can say that you can get rid of wrinkles using

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Speaker 8: this product. It's working. But with all of that going on,

532
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Speaker 8: they changed the name to frownies. So very early on

533
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Speaker 8: early nineteen hundreds, this fish switched the name for wrinkle

534
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Speaker 8: eradicators to frownies and started selling it, and it was

535
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Speaker 8: mostly word of mouth and primarily in a lot of

536
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Speaker 8: Hollywood circles, a lot and the Kennedy women used frownies, like,

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00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 8: there's just a lot of you know, high society people,

538
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Speaker 8: and it was always known as Hollywood's beady secret. So,

539
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 8: in fact, we have an old magazine, a Life magazine

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00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 8: from like nineteen twenty something, and it has frownies on

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Speaker 8: an actress who was popular at the time named Dixie

542
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Speaker 8: Dunbar and she was at Fox Drama School and it

543
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 8: showed the actresses and the things they do at drama

544
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Speaker 8: school to you know, learn to be what they are,

545
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 8: and they had the frownies on in there and they

546
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Speaker 8: kind of were noting, like this is Dixie Dunbar learning

547
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 8: not to frown with her brownies, you know. And so

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00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 8: it's just basically spread word of mouth all throughout Hollywood,

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00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 8: and that was kind of where it was known for

550
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 8: a really long time.

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Speaker 7: So are you totally anti botox or not? Necessarily?

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Speaker 8: I am anti botox for myself one hundred percent. You know,

553
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 8: I know that it's kind of a controversial hot topic,

554
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 8: and I understand why people do it. I get it,

555
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 8: and I think skincare and I think your face and beauty.

556
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 8: It's a very personal subject. It's like we live in

557
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 8: this skin. It's what we show the world, and so

558
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 8: people can feel a lot of pressure, especially women. So

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00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 8: I understand, but I will never do botox or filler.

560
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 8: I think that for me, the research that I have done,

561
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 8: and you know, my health and wellness is really important

562
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Speaker 8: to me, and I just can't justify putting something like

563
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Speaker 8: that in my body. There's too many side effects and

564
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 8: too many things that you'd have to be willing to

565
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 8: take that risk. And I know a lot of people do,

566
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Speaker 8: and I know most people are fine, but also in

567
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Speaker 8: my position, and I interact very closely with all our

568
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 8: customers and in hearing stories from them, and people who've

569
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 8: come to frownies from botox, who've become botox resistant, or

570
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 8: who've had really horrible reactions, or even were using botox

571
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 8: but they just weren't getting the results they wanted. And

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00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 8: then they start with frownies and they'll tell you. And

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Speaker 8: I don't say this, we don't make these claims, but

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00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 8: our customers, many of them are like, I used botox

575
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 8: and I didn't never get the result that I get

576
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 8: with brownies. You're joking, no, And I mean that sounds crazy, right, yes,

577
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 8: but yeah, I'm looking at you.

578
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 7: And then it doesn't seem so crazy.

579
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 8: Well, some people's bodies metabolize botox quickly, or you know,

580
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 8: it maybe takes more than they're willing to get to

581
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 8: get the result that they want. I will never do

582
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 8: botox or filler, but quite frankly, I also feel like.

583
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Speaker 6: Why would I write well, And I just want to

584
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Speaker 6: full disclosure Prownies is not a sponsor of the show.

585
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 6: I'm not getting paid to do this interview, like you know,

586
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 6: to interview you. I have just been fascinated by your brand.

587
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 6: I feel like there's been an explosion around the area

588
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 6: of face taping or frownies like, so I just thought

589
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 6: this was interesting in my audience. You know, we're all

590
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 6: very into like holistic things, and so a lot of us,

591
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 6: including myself, have kind of ditched botox recently and are

592
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 6: looking for alternatives. So for months we've been like back

593
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 6: and forth trying to get you on the show because

594
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Speaker 6: I just thought like, well, I want to hear more

595
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 6: about this from like the people that do it, because

596
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 6: also I feel like I'm doing it wrong. So I

597
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 6: just want all the tips. And I also am just

598
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Speaker 6: fascinated by the business perspective. So there's so many avenues

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Speaker 6: I want to go down with you today. First of all,

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Speaker 6: your fifth generation. So does that mean there has been

601
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Speaker 6: five women your family that have been like acting CEO

602
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Speaker 6: before you or four others.

603
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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 7: So, my great great grandmother invented the product.

605
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Speaker 8: Her daughter Alice, worked in the business with her, my grandmother,

606
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Speaker 8: who I was very close with. I didn't know the others,

607
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Speaker 8: but my grandmother was the first generation I knew well.

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Speaker 8: Her mother, Alice, actually passed away in her fifties from

609
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 8: a cancer, and so she mostly was raised by her grandmother,

610
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Speaker 8: who invented Frownie's. Okay, so they she talks about, you know,

611
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 8: doing business with Grammy when she was a little girl

612
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Speaker 8: and all these things, and she has all these great stories. Well,

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Speaker 8: she has passed away since she passed like ninety six

614
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Speaker 8: years old, a couple of years ago. But then my

615
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 8: mother came in twenty two thousand and one, two thousand

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Speaker 8: and two, when my grandmother started getting older, and at

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Speaker 8: that time, so botox was made legal or approved for

618
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 8: cosmetic use that same year, and there was this big

619
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Speaker 8: article in Good Housekeeping magazine. Rene Russo, who was an actress.

620
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Speaker 8: It was like her fortieth birthday and she was on

621
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Speaker 8: the cover and it was fabulous over forty all of

622
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 8: Rene's beauty secrets and we didn't know this at the time,

623
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Speaker 8: but she used frownies and they put like a three

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Speaker 8: page spread in Good Housekeeping magazine. This was like the

625
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Speaker 8: cover article. Had no idea and we were just a little,

626
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 8: small family, small Hollywood circle thing. And the phone started

627
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Speaker 8: ringing off the hook and my grandmother called and was like,

628
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Speaker 8: I don't know what's going on. We're getting all these

629
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Speaker 8: phone calls, and so we told her, well, the next

630
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Speaker 8: time somebody calls, ask them where they're seeing it, and

631
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Speaker 8: it was Good Housing magazine.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 8: So that was like this initial explosion into more Okay

634
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 8: at that time still it was small, but it was

635
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 8: a big thing, and with my grandmother getting older, it

636
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 8: was a little much. So my mom kind of came

637
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 8: in at that time and then banded the product line

638
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 8: and started getting involved.

639
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 7: So what was your turn to step up?

640
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Speaker 6: What did you want to do differently with the marketing

641
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 6: and the direction of the company that your previous family

642
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 6: members hadn't done that You're like, I want to freshen

643
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Speaker 6: things up.

644
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 7: What was your big idea?

645
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Speaker 8: I came in in twenty twenty and like, I had said,

646
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Speaker 8: I never envisioned myself to be a part, but the

647
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Speaker 8: world was very different when I was a kid, as

648
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Speaker 8: compared to now what I do now didn't exist. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and so my family, my siblings, and I are actually

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Speaker 8: the owners. I'm one of five. Was passed to us

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Speaker 8: from my grandmother. And I started looking at the company's

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Speaker 8: social media and I did social media on the side

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Speaker 8: form my own.

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Speaker 7: Little like mom's side hustle.

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Speaker 8: And you know, I had learned all the ins and

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Speaker 8: outs of social which is always changing all the time too.

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Speaker 7: But I just took a look and I was like.

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Speaker 8: Oh gosh, this is like a real business, and this

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Speaker 8: is we need to do more with our social This

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Speaker 8: is not going to work. And so I thought when

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Speaker 8: I was coming, I was like, oh, sure, like I'll

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Speaker 8: do some Instagram stories and just kind.

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Speaker 7: Of get us up to speed a little bit.

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Speaker 8: That was right when Instagram Reels was being released, and

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Speaker 8: obviously TikTok was a big deal in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 7: That was kind of like the big explosion of TikTok.

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Speaker 8: And I had someone send me a video personally right

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Speaker 8: about when I started at Frownies that it was a

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Speaker 8: video on TikTok that I called like the first Brownies TikTok,

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Speaker 8: and it had over two million views, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 8: I don't want.

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Speaker 7: To be on TikTok, Like I don't want to do this.

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Speaker 8: Opened the account, started the TikTok, and the very first

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Speaker 8: video from zero followers the very first day got over

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Speaker 8: sixty thousand views in twenty four hours.

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Speaker 7: And that's amazing.

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Speaker 5: No, immediately nobodys thought about you, who was just twenty

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Speaker 1: job Bob. Thanks so much for sticking with us again.

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Speaker 1: We're getting fantastic pictures. I think we should a pictured

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Speaker 1: yesterday from the email that was of Oakland. How disgusting

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Speaker 1: and awful that was. But yeah, you can email the

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Speaker 1: show anytime you want TPT at t dot com. We

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Speaker 1: look forward to reading every last word in every single

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Speaker 1: one of your emails. Saw his bright spot in the

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Speaker 1: day without further ado. You know what day it is.

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Speaker 1: It's woke Wednesday. Thank you, screaming best lady. So this

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Speaker 1: is not really woke necessarily. We've got some other funny

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Speaker 1: woke videos. I just thought it was hilarious and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring it to you. This is Congresswoman Debbie Dingle,

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Speaker 1: who that I think that's her name, Democrat congresswoman who

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Speaker 1: is very much asleep in a committee hearing. Watch this video.

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Speaker 1: It's like four seconds. Luck. Look, the only thing that

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Speaker 1: could have made that worse is if her mouth was open.

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Speaker 1: Because look, if you're gonna fall asleep at your job,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not condoning this by any stretch of the imagination,

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Speaker 1: especially for people in freaking US Congress, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: fall asleep at your job, do one of these do

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Speaker 1: the head thing. You can even put your head in

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Speaker 1: your hand, don't for the ugh that's not again, Thank

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Speaker 1: goodness for her her mouth wasn't open, because then we

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Speaker 1: just be having an even bigger field day. If you're

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Speaker 1: gonna fall asleep at work, do it the right way.

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Speaker 1: Or how about if you're in freaking Congress, you don't

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Speaker 1: fall asleep on the job. But I guess they're taking

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Speaker 1: after their presidential predecessor, Joe Biden fell asleep pretty much everything.

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Speaker 1: Let me see this, Okay, set up this next clip.

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Speaker 1: This is a woke Now. I really want to ask

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Speaker 1: one of our friend of the show. Actually I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's ever been on this show, but a guy

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Speaker 1: named James Lindsay, who is a fantastic guy, fantastic thinker, who,

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Speaker 1: interestingly enough, was the first person that really really reiterated

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Speaker 1: it over and over again. Marxists lie, That's just what

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Speaker 1: they do. And what I'd like to ask him is

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Speaker 1: whether or not the type of person who becomes a

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Speaker 1: Marxist is the type of person that lies inherently, so

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Speaker 1: that's kind of one and the same. Or is it

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Speaker 1: that when you become a Marxist you're okay with lying

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Speaker 1: because rules aren't even a thing that you think about anymore.

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Speaker 1: I would wonder which of those two things are so

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Speaker 1: all that to be said, Here is a clip of me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to push my own stuff, but it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This is just a funny clip and

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Speaker 1: I thought you should see it. This was last Friday

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Speaker 1: at UCR University of California, Riverside, at the Charlie Kirk event.

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Speaker 1: I was asking some students about their experiences and then

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Speaker 1: I was told this story in with with serious tones,

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Speaker 1: with a serious face by a guy who was clearly lieing.

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Speaker 1: Watch this.

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Speaker 10: They were arrested and detained by police and currently, as.

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Speaker 1: We know, well, did they do anything illegal? No, they haven't.

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Speaker 1: They were just standing around and then got arrested.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that's pretty much. Whether they told they weren't

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Speaker 10: like read their miranda rights, they weren't.

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Speaker 1: They were, well, how do you know that? Have you

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Speaker 1: talked to them since they're arrested?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you do that? Were they released?

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Speaker 10: Now that they they texted me? They text to me

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Speaker 10: what their phone up?

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Speaker 1: They got their phone from the police. How did they

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Speaker 1: do that? I don't know.

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Speaker 10: But they were just saying, yo, I got detained, and

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Speaker 10: they were like what the hell? And then they just

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Speaker 10: send like a picture of them inside the police car.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe you on that somebody

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Speaker 1: got arrested and then texted you after they were arrested,

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Speaker 1: but they weren't released yet. I just have a hard

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Speaker 1: time believing that. You know, we we together need to

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Speaker 1: find the cops that just arrested this poor person from

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Speaker 1: standing on the sidewalk and then gave him his phone

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Speaker 1: back and explicably allowed them to text his friends, but

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Speaker 1: didn't release him and then forgot to read him his

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Speaker 1: miranda rights. Obviously, we need to find those cops and

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Speaker 1: hold them accountable because that is uh well, it's a

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Speaker 1: completely made up story, So all of that is a joke.

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Speaker 1: I just Smolett must be so proud of this kid.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure we get full time for this.

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Speaker 1: Play this next woke Wednesday clip. I know this is

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Speaker 1: the thrown in Thursday kind of clip, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's obviously perpetrated by a woke so it fits in

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Speaker 1: here today. Play that clip.

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Speaker 9: One, let's bring the purple hair GEHATI up, come on up,

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Speaker 9: let's go, come on, come on, let's go. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 9: what did you say? Wait?

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Speaker 7: I just have one question for you?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Why does your face look like that?

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry?

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Speaker 7: Why does your face look like that?

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Speaker 9: Are you You're the one saying that to me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And what about it?

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Speaker 9: What is a woman?

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Speaker 1: Dude?

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Speaker 7: You're ugliest, you get no, no, and you.

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Speaker 2: Look like that, like, why does your face look like that?

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Speaker 4: And the woman that was up here before, she was

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Speaker 4: right when she said you your mom.

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Speaker 3: Missed her abortion day?

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Speaker 1: Because and you you look trans to I just had

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Speaker 1: to say that. That's enough of that. You. That's that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much what there the purple haired GEHATI. I love that. Also,

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Speaker 1: great argument if you're arguing a substance and truth over

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Speaker 1: topics and policies that matter. Call the other person ugly,

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Speaker 1: and generally people will agree with you more. And lastly,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious. She looked at Riley and said,

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Speaker 1: you look trans, as if that's an insult. I thought

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Speaker 1: we were supposed to celebrate the trans people by that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that's also an insult. Okay, interesting? What

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Speaker 1: color is this guy in your world? The young lady

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Speaker 1: or young they I'm not. I don't want to assume

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Speaker 1: her gender. That's gonna do with us here at turning

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Speaker 1: point tonight, but Charlie's gonna take us out. We will

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Speaker 1: see it tomorrow, same time, same place.

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Speaker 11: God bless America.

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Speaker 9: And lots to cover today.

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 9: We are so blessed to be here in Phoenix, Arizona,

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Speaker 9: while President Trump is barnstorm in the Middle East because

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Speaker 9: I can analyze and watch everything that's happening here. I

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Speaker 9: can look at it and think about it. Because President

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump is on quite a pace right now.

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Speaker 1: Understand.

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Speaker 9: President Donald Trump flew all the way through the night.

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Speaker 9: He flew from Washington, d C. To Saudi Arabia. He

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Speaker 9: rested for ninety minutes at the local Ritz hotel, got

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Speaker 9: back into the motorcade, went to the Saudi Palace, met

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Speaker 9: with officials, world leaders, every CEO on the planet is

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Speaker 9: there in Saudi Arabia. And then President Trump had to

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Speaker 9: go give a long speech in front of all these

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Speaker 9: people and then go do a royal dinner, all in

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Speaker 9: one day. It's basically a forty hour day. And honestly,

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Speaker 9: President Trump, for him, that's nothing considering what he did

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Speaker 9: during this last election, what he did during that. He

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Speaker 9: did not sleep the last three days during the last election,

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Speaker 9: and there were many days where he did not sleep

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Speaker 9: at all. And again the easy contrast, but it's worthy

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Speaker 9: to keep on mentioning and noticing the last president could

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Speaker 9: not do this. When Joe Biden went to Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 9: he went and fist bumped Muhammed bin Salman and took

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Speaker 9: a day and a half off before the first meeting.

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Speaker 9: President Donald Trump is recalibrating the world geopolitical order for

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Speaker 9: the better. He's recalibrating the Middle East to look to

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Speaker 9: the west. As we mentioned yesterday, those three countries, uae,

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Speaker 9: Qatar and Saudi Arabia, like them or not like them,

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Speaker 9: understand Saudi Arabia was involved many of them nine to

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Speaker 9: eleven hijackers Qatar. A lot of people are upset what

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Speaker 9: they may or may not be doing with Hamas and

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Speaker 9: the palsy and authority. That's not what this trip is about.

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Speaker 9: This trip is about the macro picture. Which way do

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Speaker 9: we want these increasingly wealthy and powerful kingdoms to point.

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Speaker 9: Do we want them to point towards America and our

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Speaker 9: value system, or do you want them to point towards

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Speaker 9: the Chinese Communist Party? And understand Mohammed bin Salman, the

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Speaker 9: Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, he is being very smart

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Speaker 9: and how he's sophisticating the finances of Saudi Arabia. It's

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Speaker 9: more than just oil. It's more than just petroleum. They

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Speaker 9: have a remarkably ambitious sovereign wealth fund. They've invested in

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Speaker 9: artificial intelligence tremendously, The Saudi Investment Fund very successful, and

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Speaker 9: they are now investing in America, which we want. Donald

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Speaker 9: Trump is going to come home with trillions of dollars

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Speaker 9: of investment two the United States of America, trillions of

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Speaker 9: dollars of investment in factories and plants to our home country.

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Speaker 9: But let's go a level deeper. President Trump By the way,

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Speaker 9: just finished an amazing day in Katar, in Doha where

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Speaker 9: they announced they're going to go buy nearly two hundred

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Speaker 9: Boeing planes. Big deal for American jobs. They're going to

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Speaker 9: invest hundreds of billions of dollars into America.

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Speaker 5: But I want to.

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Speaker 9: Analyze President Trump's speech in Saudi Arabia. The typical speech

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Speaker 9: that would be given if George W. Bush would have

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Speaker 9: went there, or if Barack Obama would have been a

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Speaker 9: lot different. It would have been finger wagging. It would

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Speaker 9: have been we are here to go reorganize the Middle

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Speaker 9: East to our liking. Now, look, we've been very clear

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Speaker 9: on this program. We're not a fan of Mohammedism at all.

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Speaker 9: We stand, for example, with Israel against the barbarians that

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Speaker 9: oppose civilization. But we also know as a country we

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Speaker 9: have limitations. We must have the prudence to know that

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Speaker 9: our own country has immediate concerns and that going to

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Speaker 9: the Middle East and shaming Saudi Arabia would do us

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Speaker 9: no good. Now, ironically, this is what's so delicious about

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Speaker 9: all this, is that we are going to Europe and

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Speaker 9: shaming them, but we're not going to Middle East and

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Speaker 9: shaming their customs. And I actually think it's very smart

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Speaker 9: because Europe is not living up to their own standard.

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Speaker 9: They're not Europe is not living up to the standard

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Speaker 9: of free speech and democracy and the rule of law.

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Speaker 9: They're raiding people's homes for bad social media posts. A

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Speaker 9: gentler touch, a more friendly touch in the Middle East

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Speaker 9: with these actors, will make the next Abraham Accords more likely,

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Speaker 9: will allow us to ice out the malicious actors of

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Speaker 9: Iran and Hamas in the Middle East, and will then

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Speaker 9: turn that capital towards markets that we favor. And President Trump,

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Speaker 9: he was in rare Form yesterday giving a morally clear

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Speaker 9: speech about how we want the Middle East to be

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Speaker 9: about technology, not terrorism. We want the Middle East to

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Speaker 9: be about investment and purpose. For years, our leaders put

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Speaker 9: America last, and in the process they caused untold destruction

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Speaker 9: the Middle East. Just ask the people of Iraq, or

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Speaker 9: Syria or Libya what America Last meant for their countries.

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Speaker 9: President Donald Trump to seventy nine play it.

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Speaker 12: So many decades of conflict. Finally, it is within our

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Speaker 12: grasp to reach the future that generations before us could

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Speaker 12: only dream about, a land of peace, safety, harmony, opportunity, innovation,

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Speaker 12: and achievement right here in the Middle East.

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Speaker 9: And let me also tell you the brilliance what President

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Speaker 9: Trump is doing. This is a long term American partnership. Look,

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Speaker 9: you might say, the lefties, they're so short sighted. Oh,

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Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia is going to be irrelevant because we're transitioning

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Speaker 9: away from petroleum to green energy. First of all, how

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Speaker 9: are you going to power all your AI data centers?

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Speaker 1: How are you going to.

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Speaker 9: Have chat, GPT and quantum computing with solar panels? Do

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Speaker 9: you understand the remarkable amount of energy it takes to

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Speaker 9: run just a singular AI data center. One conversation with

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Speaker 9: chat GPT requires ten times more energy than a simple

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Speaker 9: Google search one. And more people are using AI than

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Speaker 9: ever before. So in fact, the Middle East is going

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Speaker 9: to be more important as to LNG petroleum based quick,

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Speaker 9: high combustion stable energy for the AI renaissance that we're

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Speaker 9: going to be entering, but a level deeper than that.

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Speaker 9: One of the most important things, and President Trump knows

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Speaker 9: this is he's investing in the future, is that with

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Speaker 9: the Saudis and the Kataris and the Amoradis. So you

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Speaker 9: have the Amir of Katar, you got Mohammed bin Salman

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Speaker 9: and Saudi Arabia, and you've got Mohammed bin Zayed in

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Speaker 9: the United Arab Emirates. Those are the three major actors.

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Speaker 9: These are monarchies. These are not democracies. These are monarchies.

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Speaker 9: They'll be led by the same men twenty thirty, maybe

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Speaker 9: fifty years from now. If we forge strong relationships with them,

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Speaker 9: they could last a very long time. And some people say, oh, Charlie,

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Speaker 9: we shouldn't be cozying up to all these people. Time out.

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Speaker 9: What we want them to do is to grow closer

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Speaker 9: to deals like the Abraham Accords Western values, because are

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Speaker 9: if we do not engage with this part of the world,

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Speaker 9: they will go to Beijing, and that will be bad

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Speaker 9: for the planet and bad for humanity.

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Speaker 1: It