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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Combine in Indianapolis for

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Speaker 3: our second show of today. Heard Mike Persuda and Wes

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Speaker 3: Euler carrying the torch for a little while. Now they

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Speaker 3: passed that torch. What's take the Olympic torches we passed

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Speaker 3: from Italy to France.

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Speaker 4: So thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: We are at Indianapolis in the Convention Center and we

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Speaker 3: are here for day two of our collage at the Combine.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm pretty psyched. If day one was good. We

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Speaker 5: get a bunch of guests, a lot of energy. It

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Speaker 5: seems to be the same thing here and today, I

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Speaker 5: mean people were buzzing.

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Speaker 2: Before.

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Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna have like players in front of

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Speaker 5: us and drills and all that good stuff and free

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Speaker 5: agency right on the corner, so lots of going on.

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Speaker 6: There was a definite vibe out here. Oh yeah, this

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Speaker 6: is your first time. Yeah, I forgot that first time.

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Speaker 6: There's an energy, there's a buzz. It's a good word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun to be Mike and you know, Matt

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Speaker 3: is like the Emperor walking around here grabbing guests and

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Speaker 3: everybody's saying hi to him and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 3: So but to be sort of at the center of

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Speaker 3: it where it's going on in the NFL, it's fun

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Speaker 3: because this is the center of it for the next

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Speaker 3: you know week here in Indianapolis. All the attention, all

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Speaker 3: the media coverage, all the mock drafts, all that stuff

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Speaker 3: that's going on. It all, you know, it's emanating from

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Speaker 3: right here in Indianapolis. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 6: Place to be and uh significant nothing uh is going

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Speaker 6: to be decided here, but uh a lot of information

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Speaker 4: Gleaned right by the way. This this complex is massive.

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a reason that this convention center holds

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Speaker 3: so many different conventions. And we leave our hotel and

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Speaker 2: It's a fifteen twenty minute walk or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, and it's one of several hotels in which

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Speaker 3: you do not have to walk outside to get here,

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Speaker 3: like this hub here, which is then connected to Lucas

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Speaker 3: those people counting your ten thousand steps, you got a

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Speaker 3: Radio Row for your from your hotel room.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god. Between here and then I go up,

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Speaker 6: I spend some time with you guys. Then I go

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Speaker 6: that's a little bit of a trip. Yeah, yeah, back

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Speaker 6: to the hotel and then you know, occasionally we went

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Speaker 6: we went out last night for just a brief period.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh uh.

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Speaker 2: You do some walking there, walk in that direction.

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Speaker 3: Working making sure that that arm extension stays in good

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Speaker 3: shape for you have to hold the microphone. Mike doing

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Speaker 3: an excellent job with that. So yeah, no it it's

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Speaker 3: she went with twenty two outs curls lesson did you

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Speaker 3: really will? You're beefing up for the combine. You want

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Speaker 3: you know, you want your combine record to be of note.

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Speaker 7: I want that. I want that box checked.

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Speaker 2: Teams weren't sure, but now they're they're they're they're certain.

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Speaker 7: Idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, track record.

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Speaker 3: It is the size of this joint though, is it's startling.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's really amazing. Uh, and it's uh, it's cool.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, you see guys from watching our

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Speaker 3: buddy Andrew Siciliano from the Browns and Olympic coverage scrolling by,

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Speaker 3: and Matt, you know all the guys who were you know,

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Speaker 3: the the Dane Bruglers and all the other guys who

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Speaker 3: know all about and and uh, Matt Williamson is every

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Speaker 2: Right, how about makes you feel older?

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Speaker 7: You know and once? Not only is that a wealth

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Speaker 6: I got my laptop open here, I got my bag,

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Speaker 6: old down starts talking nothing in front of them.

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Speaker 7: I've done shows with this guy forever.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen him bring one sheet of reference paper

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Speaker 6: and he remembers guys forty times, their backgrounds, games from

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Speaker 7: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually not good at remembering games.

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Speaker 5: Like when I sit down with like Tim Bens and

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Speaker 5: those guys, He's like, you remember this playback in eighty eight.

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Speaker 5: I'm like no, but I think ahead, well, you know,

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Speaker 5: like all the guys that we have to deal with

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Speaker 6: Well at all. I have a blind spot. You're you're

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Speaker 6: just you just sit down, sit down. How idea we're

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Speaker 3: I have to say that. I want to say so. Like, so,

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Speaker 3: I worked with Stan Savergn for you know, over two decades.

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Speaker 3: We had desks right next to each other, and I

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Speaker 3: loved I loved everything about Stan, but I loved intellect.

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Speaker 3: But his mind worked in a very very different way

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Matt, I'll do the games and my recollection

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Speaker 3: is not great. Stan would be like, yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: it was February eighteenth, nineteen seventy one, and the third

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Speaker 4: For the PEngs. You're like, oh, I don't even know

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Speaker 6: Morning, short shorts, But of that guy over, I'm like, no,

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Speaker 6: I'm reading that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the difference between being in the moment

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Speaker 3: no uh no uh besmirching anybody's intelligence level, and it's

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Speaker 5: I want to rewind just a minute, because I want

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Speaker 4: And they go to hospitals for that. I didn't even

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean they'll do bod pods and

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Speaker 2: That's a grueling, grueling day.

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Speaker 5: So these guys actually have two days of combined stuff

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Speaker 7: Specialists okay, I think kickers and then defensive tackles.

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Speaker 6: And defensive tackles. Okay, Group two is edge. Look, you

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Speaker 3: That's a good thing you brought that with you, Like

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Speaker 2: She sh But I'm so happy that it didn't leave Indianapolis.

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Speaker 5: I mean it'd be such a logistical nightmare for us,

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Speaker 5: And what you guys will notice, you probably to you, Rob,

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Speaker 5: Combine is just one of many things going on in

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Speaker 7: In the end, a health and safety convention that.

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Speaker 2: Was here when we started.

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Speaker 6: one year we broadcasted until Saturday, and honestly, no joke.

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Speaker 2: We were the only table in this room.

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Speaker 6: They were sweeping up around us, and Wes's loud voice

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Speaker 2: We have a convention coming in. What are you Steelers

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 4: And I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think you know, when you get tradition and you know,

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Speaker 3: Seen minor league long you know, townsen have had a

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Speaker 3: Those towns leaving because there's a chance to make more

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Speaker 3: money out right. I understand it's commerce, but I feel

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Speaker 4: Oh absolute combine.

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Speaker 6: They welcome you with open arms, and it's pretty darn cool.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're just good at events here. They're good

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Speaker 6: at events. There's a reason the college basketball championship comes

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Speaker 6: back here. Uh, it's it's flasting well, yeah, other than

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Speaker 6: boys are cold.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it's even colder. It's always windy. Sometimes we get

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Speaker 5: like sixty degrees. I mean you never know when you come.

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Speaker 7: We have been outside a couple of times it's the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt. But I hope it's here forever. I mean,

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Speaker 7: That would have been to cover that draft.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if I was an NFL team, I would be

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Speaker 7: Why is he perceived to be a failure? What went wrong?

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Speaker 2: What can be fixed?

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Speaker 6: Like they played these quarterbacks way too soon in this league.

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Speaker 6: Everybody knows that. And the Darnold thing is fascinating to me.

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Speaker 7: Yep. So it does take more than the guy.

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Speaker 4: Oh you mean, they didn't much as bon Nicks.

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Speaker 6: They didn't have to win two games and stink and

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Speaker 7: Oh Lamar went at the end of the first round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah about?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah? All right?

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Speaker 6: So, well you're trying to tell me, is you can

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Speaker 7: Wow, I'm learning stuff.

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Speaker 7: I gotta hang out with you guys more often. This

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Speaker 3: I want to talk about that nest and where the

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Speaker 1: This is live Cobley chub That twenty twenty six NFL

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Speaker 4: We're live.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're chatting with our next guest, Greg Cosell.

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Speaker 3: We're straightening out who went to Amherst, and Greg Cosell

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Speaker 3: Okay, so, and then he hired a couple of Amherst

441
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Speaker 3: gms and always held it over. And then when you

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Speaker 3: look at those college rankings, so they have the college

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Speaker 3: and university rankings that the number one college in America

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Speaker 3: is always always Williams and number two is always Amherst.

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Speaker 4: Always.

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Speaker 6: I thought I saw, I thought I saw always Okay,

447
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Speaker 6: so I saw, I thought, I thought I saw a ranking.

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Speaker 3: Once I told Neil Huntington, I was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: I think I saw a ranking where Amherst is ahead

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Speaker 3: of Williams. Oh you got to find that for me

451
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Speaker 3: so I can show it to Bob Nutting, you know,

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Speaker 3: And I couldn't. I never found once in a while. Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, all right? So Greg coach football at some point,

454
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Speaker 3: and I told Greg, I want to go to I

455
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Speaker 3: want to go to Amherst and Williams, the oldest rivalry

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Speaker 3: in college football.

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Speaker 4: People might not know.

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Speaker 9: He bade him the ship there fifteen fourteen. Nice. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: it's probably a barn burner.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 2: After it was any prospects of that.

462
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Speaker 4: Only guys.

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Speaker 3: Probably a lot of law school prospects, and guys will

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Speaker 3: be running football and baseball team in the future. Greg,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much for joining us. So what is

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Speaker 3: your process like leading up to the draft as as

467
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Speaker 3: such a well respected guy?

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Speaker 9: Now, I mean basically all I do is grind, watching

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Speaker 9: tape and I never take shortcuts. So for instance, when

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Speaker 9: it comes to let's say, defensive players, to me, you

471
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Speaker 9: have to watch full games. So I will watch five

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Speaker 9: or six full games and sometimes more depending on who

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Speaker 9: the player is, because sometimes I just get a little crazy.

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Speaker 9: You know, most people who know me know I'm a

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Speaker 9: little bit of a lunatic about this stuff, you know,

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Speaker 9: but I watch full games of defensive players because you

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Speaker 9: have to, in my opinion, to do it right. Because

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Speaker 9: you know, for people that know me, I don't do

479
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Speaker 9: this for clicks. I don't do it to make bold

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Speaker 9: controversial statements. And you know, I do it because I

481
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Speaker 9: want to do it the right way. I mean, for me,

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Speaker 9: it's about the respect and integrity from you know, coaches, personnel,

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Speaker 9: people in the league. I mean, I had a three

484
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Speaker 9: and a half half hour lunch with a decoordinator yesterday.

485
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Speaker 9: He gave me three and a half hours. I don't

486
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Speaker 9: think you'd give me that unless you know there was

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Speaker 9: a respect because we were just talking ball for three

488
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Speaker 9: and a half hours. You know, because I'm not the

489
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Speaker 9: kind of guy. I don't care what their board looks like.

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Speaker 9: I don't care who they're going to draft, you know,

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Speaker 9: I don't care about that stuff. When they draft, I'll

492
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Speaker 9: see who they draft.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 9: I just love talking ball, and I'm always trying to

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Speaker 9: learn more and more and more.

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Speaker 4: I just wasn't trying to think I was equated.

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Speaker 9: I'm a big novel reader and I go to Barnes

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Speaker 9: and Noble every Saturday. It's like my happy place on

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Speaker 9: a Saturday. And I equated to going into Barnes and Noble,

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Speaker 9: and there's a thousand books that I know I want

501
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Speaker 9: to read. I'll never get to because exactly because life's

502
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Speaker 9: too short. That's the way I feel about learning more

503
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Speaker 9: about football all the time.

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Speaker 4: I want to keep learning and learning and learning.

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Speaker 9: But I know there's some things I'll never know because

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Speaker 9: I'm not going to be sitting in their meetings. You know,

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Speaker 9: I'm not going to be in there when they're doing

508
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Speaker 9: their game plans, you know, which is why I never

509
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Speaker 9: talked about game plans and play calls, because you don't

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Speaker 9: know about that.

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Speaker 4: You just don't know. Right. So, by the way, Greg

512
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Speaker 4: and I have to have a long conversation over done.

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Speaker 4: We were having a conversation published author over here, so real,

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Speaker 4: real quick, me too.

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Speaker 3: Actually, before we get into novel or we'll talk, we'll

516
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Speaker 3: talk after here. So before we the football book, before

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Speaker 3: we get into uh into this.

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Speaker 4: You've seen you said forty six years. I finished my

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Speaker 4: forty six season.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so, I mean I remember growing up as a

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Speaker 3: huge NFL fan and the draft wasn't that big of

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Speaker 3: a deal. With Radio City Music Hall, Phil Simms gets drafted,

523
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Speaker 3: the fans.

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Speaker 4: There's on it. It was like on a Tuesday morning. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 4: how have.

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Speaker 2: You see the only day of the year my mom

527
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Speaker 2: would let me stay home.

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Speaker 4: It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I could have one hundred and five fever.

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Speaker 9: I was always sick on the opening day of baseball, Seace.

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Speaker 2: Funny how that work?

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Speaker 4: It's funny how that work? You know you've seen it?

533
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Speaker 4: How have you seen it grow?

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Speaker 3: And is it? Look it's it's grown to the to

535
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Speaker 3: the betterment of the game. Of football and its popularity.

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Speaker 3: There's so many different I mean, this is obviously a nuanced.

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Speaker 4: Question about the combine.

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Speaker 9: Who would have thought that guy's running around in shorts

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Speaker 9: and a T shirt would get great ratings?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 9: I actually produced the first combine years ago, and because

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Speaker 9: it was so secretive still, because I remember having conference

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Speaker 9: calls with the exec you know, the competition committee, the

544
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Speaker 9: home grouns, the Jeff Fisher's and like they were like, well,

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Speaker 9: we're not telling anybody what the forty times are. We're

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Speaker 9: We're not, you know, it was so secretive and therefore,

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Speaker 9: just being honest, I did such a crappy job producing it,

548
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Speaker 9: you know, because I didn't know how to do it,

549
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Speaker 9: because there was they weren't giving any information, and they

550
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Speaker 9: wouldn't even let us, you know, have cameras or anything

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Speaker 9: while the event was going on. So we literally had

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Speaker 9: to wait till it was over, you know, and then

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Speaker 9: go in the dome and try to do a show.

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Speaker 9: And like I said, quite frankly, I did a crappy job,

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Speaker 9: and I was told about it, and that's fine, you know,

556
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Speaker 9: but you know, now obviously it's it's you know, it's

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Speaker 9: big money, it's big TV.

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Speaker 4: People, yep, yep.

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Speaker 5: So Greg, there's so many prospects I want to talk

560
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Speaker 5: to you about, but you're so good schematically too. I

561
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Speaker 5: think we have to start from a Steelers perspective of

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with offense. You know what happens when

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Speaker 5: we go from Arthur Smith to McCarthy's offense. I mean,

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Speaker 5: what are the obvious changes that our listeners should be

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Speaker 5: looking for here? That's a great question. I mean, on

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Speaker 5: a certain and this is a thirty thousand foot statement,

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Speaker 5: you know, both want to run the ball. I mean

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Speaker 5: McCarthy wants to start with the run game. I mean

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Speaker 5: you go back to his great years.

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Speaker 9: Obviously, everybody you know remembers Aaron Rodgers, and you know

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Speaker 9: he's a Hall of Famer. That's not even the question.

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Speaker 9: But I mean when he was there, I mean, they

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Speaker 9: ran the ball. You know, Dorsey Levins had big years

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Speaker 9: there and he carried two hundred and seventy two hundred

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Speaker 9: eighty times.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 9: So McCarthy's not just a throwball guy by any stretch

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Speaker 9: of the imagination. So the question is do they have

579
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Speaker 9: that back? You know, Game was a free agent and

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Speaker 9: he's not that back anyway to carry two hundred and

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Speaker 9: seventy times. But I think he's a really good football player.

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Speaker 9: You know, I really like Jalen Warren. But is he

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Speaker 9: a two hundred and seventy carry a guy season? You know,

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Speaker 9: I think that would be a question. Yeah, when you

585
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Speaker 9: guys agree that that's a question, I'd like to see it.

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Speaker 9: But yes, it's a question. Yeah, But he's a good player.

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Speaker 2: I mean I like him a lot, and Caleb Johnson

588
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Speaker 2: showed nothing. Well, right now, I'll.

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Speaker 9: Be honest with you. I did not love Caleb Johnson

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Speaker 9: coming out of Iowa. I thought he was a big

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Speaker 9: back who didn't run big so and he wasn't. He wasn't,

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Speaker 9: you know, explosive enough to be, you know, a that

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Speaker 9: kind of back. Yeah, so we'll see. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 9: he'll turn out to be a good player. I mean

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Speaker 9: he's it's probably I don't want to say it's his

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Speaker 9: last shot, but he's got to show something this year,

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Speaker 9: you know, through the through the the workouts and the

598
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Speaker 9: whole deal. So McCarthy definitely wants to run the football.

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Speaker 9: I guess you know you were telling me before we

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Speaker 9: started this that it looks like Rogers is going to

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Speaker 9: come back.

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Speaker 5: I would bet on it just reading the tea leaves.

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Speaker 5: You know, yeah, it's a hunch. There's not a lot

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Speaker 5: of other options, to be honest.

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Speaker 9: And again, you're dealing with a guy. Look is he

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Speaker 9: Aaron Rodgers from you know, ten years ago? Of course not.

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Speaker 9: Does he know McCarthy's offense. Obviously, he's certainly not the

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Speaker 9: same quarterback. I mean, you know, the one thing about

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Speaker 9: the Steelers, and you know it really showed up is

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Speaker 9: and Rodgers has always been like this to a certain degree.

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Speaker 9: You know, he likes to throw the ball outside the numbers.

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Speaker 9: They don't really work the middle of the field very well.

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Speaker 9: Now I don't know if that. You know, again, when

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Speaker 9: you're dealing with Aaron Rodgers, and I was told this

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Speaker 9: years ago that when you're dealing with a veteran quarterback

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Speaker 9: who's great on many levels, you deal it's kind of

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Speaker 9: their offense, and you kind of work, you know, in

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Speaker 9: other words, you don't come in and say, here's.

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Speaker 4: What we're going to do.

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Speaker 9: When you're going to do it regardless, You kind of

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Speaker 9: work with what they want to do.

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Speaker 2: It really went that way, stronger and stronger as the

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Speaker 2: year went on.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, look, I'm not a coach.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not going to sit here and say that

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Speaker 9: you know what's right or wrong, because I don't know

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Speaker 9: the answer to that. But I think there has to

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Speaker 9: be a balance there. It can't just be what Aaron

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Speaker 9: Rodgers wants to do. It has McCarthy has to have

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Speaker 9: his offense in place and run it. Is he I mean,

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Speaker 9: is he going to be the play call?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay. Who they bring in is OC.

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Speaker 7: Brian Angelikio the Vikings.

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Speaker 4: Because they're a tight end coach. Ok McCarthy's gonna call

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Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah, So you know.

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Speaker 3: I my son actually asked me this question about the

639
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Speaker 3: West Coast offense because it's the first time I think

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Speaker 3: to see there's sort of running a West Coast Mike

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Speaker 3: McCarthy influenced West Coast offense. And he said, you know, Dad,

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Speaker 3: what is a West Coast offense? And I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: it's a hard question answer right now. And I think

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Speaker 3: about quarterbacks rolling out short past to Roger Craig in

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Speaker 3: the flat, pick up five yards, run the ball a

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Speaker 3: little bit take, but that's what I'm saying. Like, so

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, well, it's obviously adapted since then,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know. How how would you do? How

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Speaker 3: would you answer that question?

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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I think there's elements of many

651
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Speaker 9: offenses now in whatever team you know, they run mostly

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Speaker 9: It's funny. I had a three hour lunch with a

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Speaker 9: d C in the league yesterday and he basically said, look,

654
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Speaker 9: everybody runs the same place. It's basically how they get

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Speaker 9: to him. The precision with which they run them, which

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Speaker 9: you know, because he was saying that a team like

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Speaker 9: the Rams, you know, runs them with unbelievable precision, and

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Speaker 9: the way they get to them makes it hard to defend.

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Speaker 9: You know, I think that the Kyle Shanahan offense would

660
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Speaker 9: theoretically be a descendant of his dad. The Mike Shanahan

661
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Speaker 9: offense would probably be a descendant of the Bill Walsh

662
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Speaker 9: offense to some degree. But there's there's changes. It's mutatd

663
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Speaker 9: it's mutated. Yeah, there's I know, look back in the day,

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Speaker 9: I think it was more defined. There were sort of two,

665
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Speaker 9: probably more than two, but two that we always spoke about.

666
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Speaker 9: We spoke about the West Coast offense, you know, the

667
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Speaker 9: Bill Walsh version, and then we spoke about the.

668
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Speaker 4: Don Coriel offense.

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Speaker 9: Well you know, and they had different components to them,

670
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Speaker 9: different philosophies. Okay, I think now that most offenses incorporate

671
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Speaker 9: parts of everything.

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Speaker 2: They've this cross brand.

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Speaker 6: So much funny to bring that up because McCarthy's introductory

674
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 6: press conference he said I have West Coast principles, right,

675
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Speaker 6: I would never say I run the West Coast offense, right,

676
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Speaker 6: And everybody else says he runs the West Coast.

677
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Speaker 4: Off He probably doesn't. Again, I didn't sturbage.

678
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Speaker 2: Probably I didn't.

679
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Speaker 9: Right, it's the methodology and the verbian that's where what

680
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Speaker 9: it really comes down to. You know, it's more than

681
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Speaker 9: anything else. But as far as plays, everybody runs the

682
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Speaker 9: same plays. I mean, there's not a thousand route concepts.

683
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Speaker 9: Everybody runs the same place.

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Speaker 6: Well, these coaches make it sound like there are sometimes that. No,

685
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Speaker 6: they kind of makes me feel like I don't really

686
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Speaker 6: know that.

687
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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 9: No, it's it's it's it's personnel, it's formation, it's pre

689
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Speaker 9: pre snaped motions, it's how you get to these plays.

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Speaker 5: But you would expect personnel to be different, right, I

691
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Speaker 5: mean I assume there'll be a lot more three wides,

692
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Speaker 5: a lot fewer two and three tight end sets.

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Speaker 2: That was a big Arthur Smith thing, big Arthur Smith thing.

694
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean they were among the league leaders

695
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Speaker 9: in you know, twelve personnel and thirteen personnel and.

696
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Speaker 4: Extra align yeah, extra alignment. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's be a lot more wide receivers on

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Speaker 2: the field, I you.

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Speaker 9: Would think, Yeah, I mean about who are they going

700
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Speaker 9: to be?

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't have them at the moment, right, I

702
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Speaker 2: want to ask you about a bunch of it.

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Speaker 7: Right, that's the point about what the offense is going

704
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Speaker 7: to look like?

705
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Speaker 4: Right?

706
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Speaker 7: How about the defense?

707
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Speaker 6: When when McCarthy talked to us for the first time,

708
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Speaker 6: he said, I've only had one top five defense in

709
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Speaker 6: my career and we won the Super Bowl that year.

710
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Speaker 7: So how come he hasn't had more than one?

711
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Speaker 4: Well, who's the decoordinator now? Came from the Raiders, Patrick Graham,

712
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Speaker 4: he's been around.

713
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll be drastically different.

714
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, well, historically he's not been a big

715
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Speaker 9: blitz guy. Historically, you know, he's been a guy about Graham,

716
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Speaker 9: not McCarthy, right, yeah, but Graham Graham.

717
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

718
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Speaker 9: Well, again, we don't know how much McCarthy. You know, look,

719
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Speaker 9: this is McCarthy's third shot. You know, who knows how

720
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Speaker 9: he's going to feel about the overall team now, whether

721
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Speaker 9: he wants it to be what he wants or whether

722
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Speaker 9: it's Patrick Graham's going to do his thing and McCarthy's not.

723
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Speaker 9: Really you know that he's gonna leave him alone. We

724
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Speaker 9: don't know the answer to that. But you know, Graham

725
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 9: historically has not been a big blitz guy. He's been

726
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 9: more of his own guy than a man guy. But

727
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Speaker 9: you know, he it depends on your personnel. I mean,

728
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Speaker 9: I think Joey Porter is a good man coverage corner.

729
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 9: You might you might want to play more. You know,

730
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Speaker 9: these are things we don't know right now.

731
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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 9: But but yeah, Graham, I'm just telling you what he's

733
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Speaker 9: done in the past. That's all we have right now

734
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Speaker 9: until they start, you know, getting on the field.

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Speaker 3: And I like the fact that both guys said that

736
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Speaker 3: they would tailor their systems somewhat to the personnel. Well,

737
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Speaker 3: you have to, especially coming off an AFC North championship team,

738
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Speaker 3: this isn't a rip it down to the studs. We're

739
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Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna populate it with people we want take

740
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Speaker 3: our lumps. So Greg kus Soft from NFL Films, that

741
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: great analyst is our guest as you assessed this draft.

742
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: Is it strong or weak? Are there strengths or weaknesses

743
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: in certain areas? Is there more depth and top end town.

744
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Speaker 9: And I'm just to be honest, I'm just really getting

745
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 9: started because I felt like the super Bowl just happened yesterday,

746
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 9: you know. So, uh, you know, I have a baseline

747
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 9: on a lot of guys, and then there are some

748
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 9: guys I've done a lot of work on already, Like

749
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Speaker 9: I've done twelve wide receivers, I've done you know, hit,

750
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Speaker 9: I've done random defensive players. You know, it's not a

751
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 9: eight quarterback draft obviously, So you know, my sense is,

752
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 9: here's the way I see this draft right now. I

753
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 9: think in a given year, most gms would tell you

754
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Speaker 9: there's probably fifteen to eighteen players that truly have first

755
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 9: round grades but obviously got a draft. I would bet

756
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Speaker 9: this year there might only be ten.

757
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: I don't think this is it now.

758
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Speaker 6: It seems like if you are blue Chippers, yes, I

759
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 6: would agree with you don't want to pick two and

760
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: three in this line for.

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Speaker 9: Instance wide receivers, and we can good segue into that. Yeah,

762
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Speaker 9: I think there's gonna be a lot of wide receivers

763
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Speaker 9: who when I say a lot. There'll be wide receivers

764
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Speaker 9: taken in the first round, probably relatively high, who from

765
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Speaker 9: my evaluation in film study, should not be taken there.

766
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Speaker 9: But you got to draft someone, you know. You don't say, well,

767
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Speaker 9: we're not drafting in the first round, so you gotta

768
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Speaker 9: draft someone. So guys are going to be drafted in

769
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Speaker 9: my view at wide receiver who I don't think they

770
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Speaker 9: would be graded that way, but.

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Speaker 4: You got to draft.

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Speaker 5: I assume you don't think Tate or Lemon or any

773
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Speaker 5: of those guys is comparable to Jamar Chase or Oh god.

774
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Speaker 9: No, I remember doing Jamar Chase and thinking this guy

775
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 9: was truly special. No, there's no Jamar Chase in this draft.

776
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Speaker 9: I like Carnell Tate. I think he'll be a good pro.

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Speaker 9: Will he be like a big time number one? You know,

778
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 9: that's always hard to say. You know, I normally don't

779
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 9: make lists, that's not my thing. I just felt the

780
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 9: process of evaluation. But I guess if I had to

781
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Speaker 9: pick the number one wide receiver prospect, I would probably

782
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 9: say it's Tate. But I don't think Tate is worthy

783
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 9: of a top five pick. But he could very well

784
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Speaker 9: be a top five pick.

785
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Speaker 2: Because there's probably not five guys worthy of a top

786
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Speaker 2: five pick.

787
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 3: Right right right, And a lot of people drawing lines

788
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: to Jordan Tyson because of his time with with Heines

789
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Speaker 3: word coaching coach him.

790
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think, you know, to me, Tyson is

791
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Speaker 9: a solid prospect, but not a big time like to

792
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Speaker 9: me in an ideal world, I think Jordan Tyson is

793
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 9: like a second round player and I like him. You know,

794
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Speaker 9: It's funny people. We live in a world where everything

795
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Speaker 9: is an extreme, so people probably based on what I

796
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Speaker 9: just said, Oh ho, sheel hates Tyson, right, Yeah, I

797
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Speaker 9: just don't think he's a top five or top ten

798
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Speaker 9: pick in a draft.

799
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Speaker 4: And I think he could be a very good pro.

800
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Speaker 4: He does a lot of things well.

801
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Speaker 9: Believe me, I wish I had my notes in front

802
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 9: of him because I take really detailed notes. But I

803
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,479
Speaker 9: like Tyson. I just don't think he's you know, quote

804
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 9: unquote special.

805
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Speaker 7: This third guy he said, you've done ten to twelve.

806
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 9: I've done twelve wide outs in detail.

807
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Speaker 6: There's probably four that everybody talks about more than the others.

808
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 6: Is there somebody that's not I'll tell you the guys

809
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 6: who's not named Boston Lemon the way.

810
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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, I'll tell you I tend to

811
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 9: talk about guys intriguing me because I try to think

812
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 9: about how they'll be deployed in the league, you know,

813
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 9: because that, to me is why we do this. You're

814
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 9: thinking about how is a guy going to be deployed

815
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 9: in the NFL. You know, it's not just oh, let's

816
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 9: look at this guy and you know, how's he gonna fit.

817
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 9: So I would say, Lemon to me, and maybe I'm

818
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Speaker 9: in the minority. Lemon is gonna probably be five to eleven,

819
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Speaker 9: one ninety five, and I've done him by the way

820
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 9: his tape. He's not a great athlete. Now he's competitive.

821
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Speaker 9: I came away watching Lemon thinking the guy he reminded

822
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 9: me of was Khalil Shakira, you know, and and.

823
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Speaker 6: People will be like, that's not overwhelming, that's not super excited.

824
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 6: But he moves the chains and.

825
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's player. Yeah.

826
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Speaker 9: The guys who really intrigued me are Malachi Fields from

827
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Speaker 9: Notre Dame, who's six four to two eighteen. Those were

828
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 9: his numbers of the combine catches, everything really smooth and fluid.

829
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Speaker 4: The question, because.

830
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Speaker 9: There's always a question, don't forget these guys are college players,

831
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Speaker 9: so they are prospects. Yeah, they're not like you know,

832
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 9: oh my god, you know, because I never talked like that.

833
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 9: The question with him would be ken he you know,

834
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Speaker 9: get in and the breaks the way you want. In

835
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Speaker 9: other words, Kenny line up with what we call boundary X,

836
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Speaker 9: the single receiver, the guy that has to win one

837
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Speaker 9: all one. Now, he's big, he can go up and

838
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Speaker 9: get it. He's got great hands, he's smooth, he's fluid.

839
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Speaker 9: Can he win one all one on you know, normal routes?

840
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Speaker 2: The best game?

841
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

842
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was really good Bowl too, That's what I heard.

843
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 9: I can't go to the Senior Bawl because that's when

844
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 9: we produce our Super Bowl matchup show. I'm really intrigued

845
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 9: by Casey Concepcion, who kind of reminded me coming He

846
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 9: reminded me of his eight flowers coming out of BC.

847
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 9: You know, he's got juice. Yeah, you know, he'll be

848
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 9: five to eleven, one eighty seven, you know, but he's

849
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 9: got juice and he can run after catch. I mean,

850
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 9: he he's he's a guy that gives you something. You know,

851
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 9: he can he can take the short pass and take

852
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Speaker 9: it to.

853
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 4: The house and the concerns they are supposed to be dropped.

854
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, he has too many drops right now, whether they're

855
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 9: you know again, the drop thing is really interesting to me.

856
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 9: A good friend of mine for years and years is

857
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 9: Al Saunders, who coached in the league forever, and he

858
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 9: always told me said, look, you can teach a guy

859
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 9: how to catch a football. He says, I don't buy

860
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 9: that a guy can't catch the football. He said, you

861
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 9: can teach a guy how to place his hands, how

862
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 9: to catch the football. And Al was considered one of

863
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 9: the best wide receiver coaches ever. So, you know again,

864
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 9: then it comes down to coaching to some degree. You know,

865
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 9: there's big receivers, there's field. There's Dndell Boston, who I like,

866
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 9: Chris Brazel I think will be an interesting guy because

867
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Speaker 9: he's probably gonna run really well here.

868
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Speaker 4: At the combine.

869
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Speaker 9: And when you're six four six' five and you run

870
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Speaker 9: well like it wouldn't surprise me if he get if

871
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 9: he's under four to, four people will get. Excited the

872
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 9: concern with him will be he's From tennessee's, offense which

873
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 9: doesn't really showcase the opportunity to run routes the way

874
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Speaker 9: you need to in THE. Nfl it's not the verse

875
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 9: route tree at. All, no, no, No so you know

876
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 9: he'll be if he let's say he runs a four three.

877
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 9: Eight you, know you know how that. Works when you're

878
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 9: six four sixty five and you run a four to three,

879
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 9: eight people get, excited, right you, Know i'm trying to

880
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,439
Speaker 9: think of other Guys i've watched.

881
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 5: That quick receiver question for you is along these, lines

882
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: it really seems like the league is getting away from

883
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: The welkers And edelman's and the real undersized.

884
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: Slots, yeah they want bigger people near the.

885
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 9: Ball, yeah it's an interesting, point you. Know don't forget

886
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 9: too there's a lot more presnat movement. Now, yeah so

887
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 9: the delineation between slot slot and outside is a little,

888
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 9: different you, know because a lot of, here LIKE i

889
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 9: Think lemon's a great. Sample, Yeah lemon twelve fifteen years

890
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 9: ago would be considered a slot.

891
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 4: Receiver.

892
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 9: Now you, know if he goes to a team And

893
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 9: i'm NOT i have no idea where guys, Go So

894
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 9: i'm not saying but if he went to a team

895
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 9: like The, rams who moved people all, around he could

896
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 9: line up, outside but he'd be so reduced he'd essentially

897
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 9: be it's like from the, slot he'd be so close

898
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 9: to the, ball you, know because that's what those teams,

899
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 9: do you. Know so you, KNOW i think that delineation

900
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 9: unless you're really, small like the kid FROM Lsu, anderson

901
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 9: WHO i really, like by the, way but now he's really. Small,

902
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 9: yeah so you, know he's probably not going to be

903
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 9: an outside. Guy but that doesn't Look, HEY i remember

904
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 9: watching the rams they line you, know and he didn't

905
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 9: play a lot of, snaps but there were times to

906
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 9: to ad well lined up quote unquote as an outside.

907
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: Receiver you. Know that's so that delineation has sort of gone.

908
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: Away, yeah, yeah you're.

909
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 5: Right it's kind of like you know what a slot corner,

910
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 5: is right, right The hilton's anymore right right?

911
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 9: There M, WARRES i Mean Emon warry was basically a sam,

912
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 9: linebacker yeah, right, yeah.

913
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah AND i and it always fascinates me to the

914
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: trends in the, league which you've, seen right and you're

915
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: covering for forty. Six the minute you think well we

916
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: got to get big, receivers somebody gets big. Corners then

917
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: somebody comes up with the idea, of well maybe if

918
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: we get quicker, guys it could be right, right and

919
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: then and then then the trend starts all over, again

920
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: you know.

921
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 9: It, ever you, know everything becomes. CYCLICAL i, mean the

922
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 9: last couple of, years we've really seen in some ways

923
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 9: the run game become you, know more in. Vogue teams

924
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 9: are playing more with multiple tight, ends with six o, linemen,

925
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 9: right you, Know so does that mean?

926
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: Me it was three years ago you shot if you

927
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: picked the running back in the first, round AS i, Mean.

928
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 9: Jeremiah love is a great. PROSPECT i, mean, like to,

929
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 9: me he's a far better prospect Than Ashton. GENTY i

930
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 9: don't even think there's a. COMPARISON i didn't Think genty.

931
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 9: Anyway when people, said, alwa he's the best running back

932
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 9: in the last ten, YEARS i didn't buy that for a.

933
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 9: Second he's no B Jhon. Robinson B John robinson is

934
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 9: truly a special.

935
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 4: Player love is closer to that to me than you,

936
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: know Than genti ever.

937
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 9: Was but uh, YEAH i, mean you know you're seeing

938
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 9: teams now, Now does does that mean that colleges you're

939
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 9: gonna have to start getting you, know linebackers who can

940
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 9: stack and. Ship there's not a you, know in college

941
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 9: you don't see a lot of stacking shed. Linebacker there's

942
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 9: very few of those guys because that's not the way

943
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 9: the college games, played, right you, Know so that's what

944
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 9: college is giving THE, nfl you, know to the point

945
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 9: where some, linebackers like the kid you're probably very familiar with,

946
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 9: It Pitt Kyle lewis is probably.

947
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: Going to be a.

948
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 9: Safety and when you put on the, tape he looks

949
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 9: he doesn't look like a linebacker with his body type

950
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 9: in his move and he looks like a.

951
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: Safety.

952
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: YEAH i think he's two hundred twelve pounds at the.

953
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 4: Season, yeah, YES i mean he's he's not going to

954
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 4: play stacked backer in THE.

955
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: Nfl people are gonna try to make him Into Himan.

956
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 9: Ware WELL i was gonna, say, yeah then you got you,

957
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 9: know another guy like that is the kid FROM, Lsu Harold,

958
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 9: perkins who's probably two twenty at, most and you know

959
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 9: the WAY lsu used him rarely was he a stacked.

960
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 9: Linebacker even though he's listed as a, linebacker he more

961
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 9: often than not was like an overhang player or out

962
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 9: in the. SLOT i, mean if teams want to keep

963
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 9: playing big, nickel which has become a trend in the

964
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 9: league as, well you, know then you get these guys

965
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 9: that are two, eighteen two twenty that probably are not

966
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 9: truly stacked, backers but can play like, that you, know

967
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 9: like an Em And warri Or Drwin james Or Kyle, hamilton.

968
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: Like what you. Mentioned the college.

969
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: Game mike tom and had a common a couple of

970
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: years ago at the owners meetings about how more corners

971
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: ARE nfl ready than they used to.

972
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: Be used to draft the corner and develop them a

973
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: couple of.

974
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: Years you didn't want to throw them out there right

975
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: away unless he was absolutely, special but he, said, hey,

976
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: listen there's kids are.

977
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: Doing seven on seven camps all year.

978
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: Long, yeah and then they go to college and there's

979
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 3: a lot of spread and throwing it. Around so these

980
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: corners come in and they're more. Ready you're more ready,

981
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: there but you're less. Ready it's right off the. Ball

982
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: that's What corners just get more and more. REPS i,

983
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: mean a lot of college teams number, one they go no,

984
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: huddle and then a lot of these quarterbacks in college

985
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: they throw forty five to fifty balls a. Game corners

986
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: are playing, corner you, know they're getting a lot of

987
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: reps at the corner.

988
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 4: Position.

989
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, great last THING i have.

990
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: Four i'm sure you gotta get, going but he's gonna

991
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 5: be here for the next five. Hours would you expect

992
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 5: more big nickel from The?

993
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: Steelers?

994
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 9: Now who would be their big nickel guy at this?

995
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 5: Point, now that's the thing, IS i don't know that

996
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 5: they have The ramsey could. BE i think that's why

997
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 5: they originally traded for. Him there's a bigger presence at

998
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 5: nickel and as a. BLITZER i don't know if they

999
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 5: look at him as a free safety or A. NICKEL i, mean,

1000
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 5: obviously as the year, progressed he became a pure. Safety, yeah,

1001
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 5: yeah you, Know and SO i don't know how he

1002
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 5: feels about, That BUT i just wonder If graham would

1003
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 5: lean that way or. Not it's hard to tell with

1004
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 5: The raiders because they're such a carrow.

1005
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 4: Influence, yeah, yeah don't.

1006
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 9: KNOW i, mean And, ramsey you, know at this, point

1007
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 9: because he's a, SAFETY i guess you'd call it big.

1008
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 9: Nickel but obviously with the rams you, know the position

1009
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 9: they called it with a star as you, are you, Know,

1010
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 9: YEAH i mean that's a great question right. Now if

1011
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 9: they were to line up, today who play corner Opposite, porter.

1012
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 5: They probably have to Sign pierre, again right, now they

1013
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 5: don't have a number two Or Sante samuel or somebody

1014
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: not on the. Team they don't have a second, corner,

1015
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 5: Right But, PIERRE i think is in the mix in

1016
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: a good.

1017
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 4: Year.

1018
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 9: Yeah you, know it's, funny he's he keeps sticking, Around

1019
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 9: yeah he. Does he can't a good special. Teamer and he's,

1020
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 9: long he's you, know he's. Athletic you, know guys like.

1021
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 9: That BECAUSE i don't study him, individually, obviously BUT i always, wonder,

1022
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 9: like what is he missing? That given his, length his

1023
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 9: movements pretty, good why can't he be a quality starting?

1024
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 9: Corner well last year and the.

1025
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 3: First time he showed it good and it was towards

1026
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: the end of this, year which puts you an interesting, Dilemma,

1027
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: right did he figure something?

1028
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 4: Out did he just have to stretch of good? Game?

1029
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 3: Right that's WHY i think evaluation talent evaluation is an extraordinary.

1030
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: Skill it's so hard and it's so.

1031
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 9: Difficult and by the, way you, know there's some things

1032
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 9: you just don't. Know you, know people LIKE i get

1033
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 9: asked a lot with about. Players you, know, well you,

1034
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 9: know how do you think this is unrelated maybe to The,

1035
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 9: Steelers but LIKE i got to ask this About Malik, Willis,

1036
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 9: well how do you think he'll do if he had

1037
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 9: to start seventeen? Games, well there's no way to know

1038
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 9: how answer that's?

1039
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: Right?

1040
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 9: RIGHT i mean all you can do is kind of

1041
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 9: have what he's done and try to extrapolate that over.

1042
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 9: Seventy but you don't, know, right and coaches don't. Know

1043
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 9: and if you give him thirty five million dollars a

1044
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 9: year and you're, right you're a. Genius and if you're,

1045
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 9: wrong you're. Fired, right you, know, right and you simply don't.

1046
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 4: Know that's? Right? Right are brought him up.

1047
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 6: AND i have to at least need a little bit

1048
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 6: of A willis nugget to, me that's the DIRECTION i

1049
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 6: would go for The.

1050
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: STEELER i Know i'm killing our dark.

1051
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 9: Time yeah, yeah, right right?

1052
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: RIGHT i think is a billion.

1053
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: Short break coming? Up justin, right, right sure? Break what

1054
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 4: do you think?

1055
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 9: About but we got to get you to answer? It you, know,

1056
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 9: Well i'm being, HONEST i don't. Know the most falls

1057
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 9: he's ever thrown in a game was his rookie year twenty,

1058
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 9: three when he wasn't ready at all to. Play so

1059
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 9: if he's your, starter you know there are going to

1060
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 9: be games where he's gonna have to drop back thirty,

1061
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 9: five forty. Times and the more you drop back if

1062
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 9: if there are, concerns that's when the warts come. Out

1063
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 9: SO i don't it's such A i'm just being. HONEST

1064
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 9: i don't know the answer to. That that's a great.

1065
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 9: Answer Greg, Gosell, LEGEND Nfl film's. Analyst thanks very much

1066
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 9: for joining. Us, greg really that was. Fine appreciate.

1067
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: It, Guys thank. You stick.

1068
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: Around more to come from the combines and we continue

1069
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: here this year there's audio.

1070
00:45:53,840 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Network this is live cover each of that twenty twenty

1071
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: SIX Nfl combine On Steelers Nation, radio a part of

1072
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: The Steelers Audio.

1073
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: Network and welcome back to the combine as we're continuing

1074
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: here off camera With Greg kosel getting some reading.

1075
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 5: Tips these guys always give me a hard time for

1076
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: being too infatuated With greg and picking his.

1077
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: Mind the you two are pigs and pigs in a black.

1078
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 7: Cat oh that was.

1079
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 6: FASCINATING i could do that for the three hours he

1080
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 6: spent with the decoordinator yesterday and maybe.

1081
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 5: Longer oh, YEAH i say this every, year And i'm

1082
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 5: not saying he sits will sit in front of, us

1083
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 5: but it's my favorite segment of the year without.

1084
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: Question, yeah he's joined really probably twelve years in a.

1085
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 6: Row.

1086
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah so we're going to continue on with one of

1087
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: the where we left off with our discussion was where

1088
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Speaker 3: does you know the nest for this to?

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Speaker 4: Is where do they sit right?

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Speaker 3: Now are they in a good position to be bringing

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Speaker 3: in a, young hopefully talented quarterback this year or next?

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Speaker 3: Year this, year you would think be hard to do

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Speaker 3: that in the. Draft Will howard free agency next year

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Speaker 3: more likely perhaps to do in the draft if you

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Speaker 3: have the opportunity to trade up and get a. Player

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Speaker 3: so in what it's supposed to be what this year

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Speaker 3: was supposed to be a loaded quarterback, draft and it

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Speaker 3: doesn't appear that issue is a loaded quarterback draft at.

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Speaker 5: All, no BUT i do think you need to prepare

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Speaker 5: for next, year especially if you're going to go To

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Speaker 5: rogers route. Immediately AND i think the majority of the

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Speaker 5: offensive line is very much in. Place BUT i would

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Speaker 5: still draft two of them BECAUSE i won an extra, guy.

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Speaker 5: RIGHT i Thought greg had a really good point too

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Speaker 5: that as much as McCarthy wants to run the, ball

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Speaker 5: WHICH i don't think people locally have talked about, enough

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Speaker 5: who's going to be the real bell cow of that,

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Speaker 5: backfield because it really isn't gain well if you were

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Speaker 5: to bring him, back do.

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Speaker 6: You need the bellcal though or do YOU i don't.

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Speaker 6: Know is it yeah one guy or is it totality of.

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Speaker 5: Carries i've said this a few Times, mike that as

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Speaker 5: much AS i Like, WARREN i wish he was the

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Speaker 5: smaller of the top, two not the bigger of the top.

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Speaker 5: Two you, know Like, nause he wasn't, great but that

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Speaker 5: version a better version Of.

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Speaker 6: NOAGE i Thought warren and this was the deal third down. Guy,

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Speaker 6: yeah AND i think he's more than. That, NOW i

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Speaker 6: think he's more than, That But i'm not sure he's

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Speaker 6: so much more than that that he's the bell cout

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Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty touch guy or, whatever, Right like

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Speaker 6: i'd love him to be even if he's your top

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Speaker 6: best player in the, Backfield i'd prefer his compliment was

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Speaker 6: bigger than. Him BUT i do hope the McCarthy wants

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Speaker 6: to run the ball thing is, real because, Yeah i've

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Speaker 6: wondered about. It i've wondered about it, too And greg

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Speaker 6: laid that out really, well AND i do think that's

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Speaker 6: going to be part of.

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Speaker 2: It but wide. Receivers the nest for wide receivers a

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Speaker 2: disaster at the.

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Speaker 7: MOMENT yea back back to the next.

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Speaker 6: Thing would it be fair to say if you were

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Speaker 6: a young, quarterback it's a better nest than if you're

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Speaker 6: not a. Quarterback because of McCarthy's reputation as the quarterback,

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Speaker 6: developer quarterback, whisper.

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Speaker 5: Well my hunch is that's why he was, hired you, know,

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Speaker 5: LIKE i, YEAH i, mean there's two Things i've said

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Speaker 5: since McCarthy's hired is we know this team's never gonna

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Speaker 5: want to bought him. Out which of the coach candidates

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Speaker 5: can keep us as competitive as possible now while identifying

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Speaker 5: and developing the next, quarterback whether that's trading For Dak

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Speaker 5: prescott in the, year or drafting a guy at two

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Speaker 5: overall or, whatever identifying the right guy and getting.

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Speaker 2: The most out of that.

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Speaker 5: PLAYER i know people were infatuated with Like shula and

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Speaker 5: Siel house and all these, dudes but McCarthy knows how

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Speaker 5: to be a head.

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Speaker 2: Coach those guys don't even know how to be a

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Speaker 2: head coach, yet.

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Speaker 6: Let, alone nor are they head. Coach and then still

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Speaker 6: my head coaches right?

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Speaker 2: Right all?

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Speaker 3: Right we have lots to get to and we're going

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Speaker 3: to get to that as we again sort of break

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Speaker 3: down The steelers roster where they are leading into these

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Speaker 3: combine in THE Nfl draft as well when we continue

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Speaker 3: here From indianapolis On Steelers Audio network