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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's Giants on

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants.

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmelk. Big show for you today.

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Speaker 2: We'll lead off with Dorry Jackson talking about how this

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Speaker 2: Giants defense is played this year, the corners and of

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Speaker 2: course the big matchup this week against the Bengals. Then

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Speaker 2: we have Dan Hord played by play man for the Bengals,

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Speaker 2: and then Bob popp Is conversation with the head coach

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Speaker 2: of the New York Giants, Brian Dable.

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Speaker 1: Let's lead off with my conversation with the Dory Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Now we're joined by Giants quarterback of Dory Jackson of

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Speaker 2: Dory How are you man?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing? What are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Dude.

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Speaker 2: Let's start here. How do you think the defense is

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Speaker 2: playing right now? If you put your veteran hat on,

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Speaker 2: you watch his defense on tape every week. Where do

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Speaker 2: you think you guys are as a group.

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Speaker 3: We're playing solid, good, complimentary football.

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Speaker 4: We're out there trying to get the offense the ball

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Speaker 4: as much as possible, and special teams out there flipping

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Speaker 4: the field and doing what they need to do, trying

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Speaker 4: to capitalize. So I think right now we're just knowing

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Speaker 4: our role, knowing our job, and just trying to execute it.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know what a peak Shane Bowen's style of

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Speaker 2: defense is supposed to look like. You're with him back

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Speaker 2: in Tennessee before you came here. How close do you

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Speaker 2: think your group is to executing exactly what he wants

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Speaker 2: on a play by play basis.

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Speaker 4: For us, we always talk about what we always one

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Speaker 4: play away from being where you want to be, And

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Speaker 4: you know that starts with just doing your job and

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Speaker 4: trusting that your brother is going to do his. So

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Speaker 4: going out there every snap, every down, knowing your brother's

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Speaker 4: relying on you, knowing you're relying on your brother, understanding

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Speaker 4: the defense to a t, and just playing fast. And

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Speaker 4: like I said, I think you're just one player away.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you still have

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Speaker 4: to be consistent. Do it snap after snap, quarter after quarter,

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Speaker 2: What does that look like when this defense is hitting

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Speaker 2: on all cylinders. Obviously, you want the pass rush but

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Speaker 2: for you guys, the secondary specific way, I know he

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Speaker 2: likes to switch up coverages. He likes to, you know,

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Speaker 2: have freestat movement to try to confuse the quarterback. You

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Speaker 2: guys got to pass guys off the zone. So if

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Speaker 2: the fans watch it at home, when are they going

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Speaker 2: to know that? All right, this secondary has exactly what

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Speaker 2: Shane Bowen's trying to do down pad, and they're playing

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Speaker 2: exactly what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: When everyone's making plays, I think you can see that,

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Speaker 4: like the Sea out a game, a lot of people

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Speaker 4: have some PBUs, get a bunch of sacks, and it's

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Speaker 4: just all it all. It's symbiosis, you know. Everybody has

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Speaker 4: to work well together, everybody has to play for one another,

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Speaker 4: and then at the end of the day have fun.

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Speaker 3: As you've seen that. The game may have looked stressful.

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Speaker 4: You know on the outside os, but for us it's

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Speaker 4: just going out there having fun, playing ball and doing

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Speaker 2: Well, you got a lot of young guys too, so

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Speaker 2: it's probably easy to have fun.

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Speaker 1: With the young guys.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm going to go through some of these guys.

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Speaker 2: I want you to tell me how how they're playing

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Speaker 2: and kind of what your impressions are. Let's start with Tabanks.

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Speaker 2: He's been going through a gauntlet of really good wide

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Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. So how do you think he's

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Speaker 2: kind of progress trying to figure out exactly what he's trying.

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Speaker 3: To do in this new system. I think he's doing well.

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Speaker 4: You know, he obviously plays the toughest position that I'm

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Speaker 3: You know, it's offensive league.

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Speaker 4: But to go out there snap and clear game after game,

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Speaker 4: make his play. So to see his his composure, to

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Speaker 4: there and still be him, that's a great feat to

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: How about Cordell Flatt.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, especially in that Dallas gave me a

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, man, I like Cordell Flott a lot, been

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Speaker 4: We joke about it, Corey Raymond did a great job

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Speaker 4: a hell of a player and a great person as well.

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Speaker 3: So, man, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Always rooting for for Cordell to go out there. It

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Speaker 2: How about the two rookies. Obviously it's not going to

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Speaker 2: be perfect. These guys are still learning, but both guys

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Speaker 2: physicality around the one scrimmage has been pretty impressive.

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Speaker 3: The thing with them, they play fast, and that's what

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Speaker 4: Actually, like you said, it won't be perfect, but you know,

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Speaker 4: you know it's not gonna be perfect, but you demand it.

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Speaker 3: But they go out there and.

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Speaker 4: Play fast and do a lot of youthful I would say,

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Speaker 4: a lot of youthful things.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? What does that be?

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Speaker 3: Youthful?

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Speaker 4: They can go out there and crash out that they

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Speaker 4: You know, they're still naive and wide eyed to the game,

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Speaker 4: and that's a good thing to have. But at the

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Speaker 2: That's real good. You have a pass rushing fun of

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Speaker 2: you right now that leads the NFL in sacks with

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Speaker 2: pass rushes over the years in the league. Does this

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Speaker 2: it feel like a pass rush that is leading the

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Speaker 4: Man, I didn't know we were leading league til I've

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Speaker 4: seen that stat twenty two, But it made sense after

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Speaker 1: So Phillips has one too, you know what I'm saying, Drew.

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Speaker 3: So we.

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Speaker 4: Man, you can feel it, but you don't feel it

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Speaker 4: until you you can sense it. So it's like, man,

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Speaker 4: we know that the guys are out there playing fast,

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Speaker 4: really I don't say, care about stats, really don't. You

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Speaker 4: just care about the outcome. You senior brother, win and celebrate.

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Speaker 4: So after they said we're leading the league, and I

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Speaker 4: have to look back, Decks had three. I think TIBs

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Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there like, well, shoot, you do the math.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of sacks, but you don't really understanding it.

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Speaker 4: During the game, He's like, all right, you're just happy cheering.

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Speaker 4: You don't know what's going on. And then I think like, oh,

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Speaker 4: we had that many sacks. It's crazy, all right.

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Speaker 2: I want to do two followups so that The first

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Speaker 2: one is that when you have a passers like that

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Speaker 4: I think I think for us it is about just

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Speaker 4: doing your job. I understand that we want those those

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Speaker 4: You know, they're not always on third and medium, third

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Speaker 3: So I think it helps out.

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Speaker 4: And you know, even if they can or cannot get

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Speaker 4: some overthrow, some bad balls, some bad plays, and if

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Speaker 4: you're doing your job as a defensive back, good things

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, last year, you guys did not play with a

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Speaker 2: lot of leads over the course of the year. You

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Speaker 2: were kind of playing catchup all the time. This year,

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Speaker 2: you know, you not haven't been up to scores in

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Speaker 2: a lot of these games, but if they've been close,

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Speaker 2: small leads or small deficits, how much does that game

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Speaker 4: Kind Of back to that twenty two season when we

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Speaker 4: a lot of things can happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the games are close exactly.

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Speaker 3: Go to Tennessee. The first game, I think we're down fourteen.

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Speaker 3: Because the you know, the mishap on the goal line.

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Speaker 4: And then having that that mental toughness, that mentality that man,

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Speaker 3: Lot of ball left to be played.

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Speaker 4: So I think having that mentality and understanding that things

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Speaker 4: another opportunity to showcase yourself and who you are as

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Speaker 4: a defense. And I think when we use that mentality

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the opponent a little bit this week.

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Speaker 2: When you go out there, how important is it for

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Speaker 2: you to I D first and foremost who you're lining

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Speaker 4: That's that's what film study is all about. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's what we're here for. I tell people know and

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Speaker 4: I ask me what I'm doing. I'm at work, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. Aren't you playing football? No, it's

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Speaker 4: you got to know your ins and out.

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Speaker 3: Just like if your boss or anybody asks you to

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Speaker 4: Report or actually to be ready to prepare to do

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Speaker 3: He does that.

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Speaker 2: I might be choosing the wrong word. I'll use the

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Speaker 2: All right, let me bring these two parts of it together.

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Speaker 3: They say it best.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's always about winning.

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Speaker 3: Everybody does, no matter what it is.

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals, the one and only Dan Wor Dan.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us again. Man, How are you John?

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Speaker 3: I'm great.

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Speaker 6: It's my pleasure to be on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks all right, First, of all, let's look at the

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Speaker 2: Obviously, a lot left to be desired, I think on

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Speaker 6: They were pretty good the first two weeks. John they

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Speaker 6: publicly and said, we are not upholding our end of

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Speaker 6: the bargain. We should be winning the way that the

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Speaker 6: defense is performing. So that's what's got to change here

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Speaker 6: in Cincinnati is.

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Speaker 2: This a pass rush issue? Is it a coverage issue?

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the injuries on the defensive line, right, is

447
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Speaker 2: it run stopping?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Where do you if you were to put your finger

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Speaker 2: on where you think the biggest change needs to happen

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Speaker 2: for it to turn around, where would you point?

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Speaker 6: I would say run stopping number one, pass rush number two.

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Speaker 6: Stopping the run has been an issue since the beginning

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Speaker 6: of last year. Week against Derrek Henry and Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 6: they did a great job of stopping the run until

456
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Speaker 6: the final running play of the day. Henry in overtime

457
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Speaker 6: went fifty one yards to set up the game winning

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Speaker 6: field goal. But if you subtract that play, and I

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Speaker 6: know you can't really do that, and for the sake

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Speaker 6: of this interview, we will. They held Baltimore to about

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Speaker 6: seventy rushing yards on thirty carries, So the run defense

462
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Speaker 6: was really good until that final run last week. Nas

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Speaker 6: Ress hasn't been there so far this year. Part of

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Speaker 6: that is what I talked about earlier, all the guys

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Speaker 6: that have been out on the defensive line. But as

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Speaker 6: a team, they have as many sacks as Dexter Lawrence

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Speaker 6: does so through five games when another team's three hundred

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Speaker 6: and forty pound nose tackle as the same number of

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Speaker 6: sacks as your entire team does. That tells you it

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Speaker 6: has not been a very effective pass rush so far.

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Speaker 2: Last one on the defense, Trey Hendrisingh obviously is your

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Speaker 2: best defensive player, really good pass rusher. He's mostly going

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Speaker 2: to be one to me as Andrew Thomas. That's going

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Speaker 2: to be a really fun matchup to watch. Dan Who's

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Speaker 2: the second guy, right if the Giants decide to like

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Speaker 2: double you know, Chip, do whatever they want to Hendrickson,

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Speaker 2: who's the other guy that you think has the best

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Speaker 2: chance of winning one on one and getting home against

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Speaker 2: the opposing quarterback.

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Speaker 6: If Sheldon Rankins plays, and again I think there's a

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Speaker 6: reasonable chance that he will. He is a very good

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Speaker 6: interior pass rusher. That's why the Bengals signed him as

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Speaker 6: a free agents passed offseason. I mean, he doesn't have

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Speaker 6: crazy sack totals in his NFL career, but if you

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Speaker 6: look beyond that specific stat he's always up there in

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Speaker 6: pressures among defensive tackles. He's very good at interior pressure.

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Speaker 6: So if healthy, I would say he would be the guy.

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Speaker 6: Then part of it is situational. If they can get

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Speaker 6: the Giants into obvious passing downs. Miles Murphy was their

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Speaker 6: number one draft pick last year out of Clemson. He's

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Speaker 6: a tremendous athlete and he actually beat his man quite

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Speaker 6: a bit last week in the Baltimore game. It was

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Speaker 6: his first game of the year. He's been out with

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Speaker 6: an injury. He's getting healthier and healthier, and he's a

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Speaker 6: really talented guy. So again, it's a situational thing. Sam

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Speaker 6: Hubbard is usually on the field in that other defensive

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Speaker 6: end spot, and if they can get the Giants into

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Speaker 6: second and long, third and long, then Miles Murphy comes

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Speaker 6: in and he can be a problem.

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Speaker 2: Last week, the Giants really focusing on one matchup on

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Speaker 2: the defensive backfield. They went after Drey Brown I get

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Speaker 2: it again, and they Darius Lene had his way with him.

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Speaker 1: For the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to match up one on one with

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Speaker 2: if Neighbors is back and they go to put one

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Speaker 2: guy on him and travel, are they going to stick

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Speaker 2: on their sides? Is there someone that they trust to

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Speaker 2: cover more than anyone else? And then has there been

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Speaker 2: someone that other teams have kind of targeted over the

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Speaker 2: course of this year back.

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Speaker 6: There they generally don't have their quote unquote top corner

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Speaker 6: follow a guy. They've done it from time to time

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Speaker 6: in the past. Their number one corner is Cam Taylor

514
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Speaker 6: britt and on a week two week basis, he can

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Speaker 6: be one of the best quarters in the league or

516
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Speaker 6: he can really struggle. And a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 6: he struggled so badly he actually got benched during the

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Speaker 6: course of that game, which hadn't happened before. He came back,

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Speaker 6: and I thought he was solid last week. Now they've

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Speaker 6: lost one of their best corners, Dax Hill. He tour

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Speaker 6: his ACL last week. AJ Turner, who was the second

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Speaker 6: round draft fed last year, moves up into that starting spot.

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Speaker 6: It's an inconsistent group. They're capable of being really good,

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Speaker 6: but they have some clunkers as well. So assuming that

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Speaker 6: Neighbors is back, that's going to be a huge challenge

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Speaker 6: for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the offensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 2: and Dan, I understand this is you know, it seems

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Speaker 2: like a ridiculous question given how good this Bengals offense

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Speaker 2: has been over the years, But is this as much

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Speaker 2: as you've seen this side of the ball humming for Cincinnati?

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Speaker 1: In the last few years.

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Speaker 2: With Joe Burrow, Higgins Chase healthy, the run game's done

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Speaker 2: a pretty nice job. It looks like the lines protecting

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Speaker 2: I mean this right now could be the best offensive football.

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Speaker 6: It's performing as well as it did since the tail

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Speaker 6: end of the Super Bowl year in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 6: They really got it rolling late that year and obviously

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Speaker 6: it carried all the way to Super Bowl fifty six.

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Speaker 6: So it's playing like that right now. If you look

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Speaker 6: back over the last three weeks, three points, thirty four points,

542
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Speaker 6: thirty eight points, the thirty eight game against the Ravens,

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Speaker 6: that's one of the better defenses in the NFL. So yes,

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Speaker 6: it's really cooking right now. Burrow looks fantastic. Struggled a

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Speaker 6: little bit in Week one. The national debate shows were

546
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Speaker 6: asking whether his wrisk was healthy. Will he ever throw

547
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Speaker 6: the ball that? Well again, well, nobody's talking about that anymore.

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Speaker 6: He's number one in the NFL and passed a rating

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Speaker 6: and touchdown pass because it looks great, and you noted

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Speaker 6: the offensive line. I think it's the best offensive line

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Speaker 6: he's had in his time in Cincinnati. He signed Orlando

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Speaker 6: Brown Junior last year to be their left tackle. He

553
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Speaker 6: was the highest priced offensive line free agent available. They

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Speaker 6: drafted the right tackle of Marius Mims this year. I

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Speaker 6: think he's going to be a superstar. I mean this guy,

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Speaker 6: I love that ethically. Yeah, he looks like he was

557
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Speaker 6: built in a lab. So they have shored up their tackles.

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Speaker 6: The offensive line play has been good, and domination of

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Speaker 6: a good offensive line burrow and that weep andry equals

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Speaker 6: a lot of points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got to imagine that a lot of

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Speaker 2: the I think do you guys are number one in

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Speaker 2: the PFF pressure percentage allowed metric? You know you talk

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Speaker 2: about the line, but a lot of that's got to

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Speaker 2: be borrowed too, right, just with the speed at which

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Speaker 2: he can identify what's coming on how fast he gets

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Speaker 2: rid of the ball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Joe has two superpowers. Number one is his accuracy statistically,

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Speaker 6: the most accurate quarterback in NFL history if you go

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Speaker 6: by completion percentage, and you know that can be a

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Speaker 6: flawed depending on how far down the field you're throwing

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Speaker 6: the ball, but in any dates for his career, he's

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Speaker 6: better than sixty eight percent, better than seventy two percent

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Speaker 6: so far this year. And then the other superpower is

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Speaker 6: his ability to recognize and diagnose. There's nothing a defense

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Speaker 6: can do that seems to pool him.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 6: He makes mistakes, they all do, But I would say

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Speaker 6: from the very beginning of his NFL career, even as

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Speaker 6: a rookie, his ability to recognize and process has been

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Speaker 6: off the charts and as good as any quarterback I've

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Speaker 6: ever seen.

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Speaker 1: What's going to go? Do you think?

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I think Chase Brown's phenomenal. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know how big of a deal will be

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Speaker 2: if he doesn't. But do you think Zach Wiss is

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Speaker 2: going to go in this game?

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Speaker 6: Hard to say since he didn't practice at all On Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: He told my analyst Dave Lapham that he expects to play,

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Speaker 6: So based on what he said, yes, I'll say yes,

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Speaker 6: But I really don't know. Chase Brown is excellent. I

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Speaker 6: don't think if he gets the bulk of the carries

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Speaker 6: that's something that the Bengals would be worried about. But

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Speaker 6: I do think there's a drop off from the top

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Speaker 6: two to the number three. Cradyon Williams is their third

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Speaker 6: running back. Never really taken advantage of his opportunities in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 6: So if for some reason Zach camp play and Trayveon

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Speaker 6: becomes the other guy that gets snaps. There probably is

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Speaker 6: a bit of a drop off there.

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Speaker 2: Final question, is there any answer Dave for what the

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Speaker 2: Bengals through out there and wide receiver? I mean, you

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Speaker 2: have more Chase on one side, t Higgins on the other.

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Speaker 2: Yoshavas has been very good as your number three as well.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's just a matter of picking your poison.

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Speaker 2: You want to double one, the other one's going to

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Speaker 2: get you right. Have you have any teams figured out

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Speaker 2: any way to just put the clamps on on those

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Speaker 2: two guys out there?

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Speaker 6: No, No, there really isn't quite Honestly, I'm sorry to say,

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Speaker 6: but that's true. But I do think you got to

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Speaker 6: pick your poison, and the most poisonous of the guys

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Speaker 6: is Jamar Chase, So you have to double him. If

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Speaker 6: you don't, he is going to have one hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty plus yards. He is, along with Justin Jefferson, one

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Speaker 6: of the two best wide receivers in the NFL. Maybe

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Speaker 6: Molak Neighbors is going to get there in time, but

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Speaker 6: Jamar is He's got everything you want, breakaway speed, unbelievable

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Speaker 6: yards after catch talent, catches everything strong as an Ox

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Speaker 6: four three speed. He is a tremendous football player who

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Speaker 6: helps Joe Burrow put up the type of numbers that

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Speaker 6: he put up every year. I mean, he turned a

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Speaker 6: screen pass that seemed to be well defended last week

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Speaker 6: into seventy touchdown. So the guy is an unbelievable player,

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Speaker 6: and the Giants, I'm sure will be double teaming him

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Speaker 6: on a lost every stab.

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Speaker 2: And then you had the crossover where he kind of

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Speaker 2: bounced off six different guys a few weeks before that,

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Speaker 2: right where he managed to run for a touch and

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Speaker 2: unbelievable player, Dan, good stuff, my friend, have a safe

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Speaker 2: trip out here, and we'll see on Sunday night.

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Speaker 6: Looking for going to a John. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 7: so go to that retreat. New you move to the country.

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Speaker 7: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 7: you ready for all that life breaks?

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Speaker 2: over the head coach of the NYG being interviewed by

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Speaker 2: the Voice of the NYG Bob Papa with Brian Dable.

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Speaker 5: As always were running by the head coach of the

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Speaker 5: New York Football Giants, Brian dable is. Tonight, the Giants

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Speaker 5: take on the Cincinnati Bengals and coach after last week's win,

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Speaker 5: obviously a good feeling around the football team, but a

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Speaker 5: very stiff challenge tonight with Cincinnati coming to town. What

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Speaker 5: are some of the things as you look at this

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Speaker 5: football team that say, hey, don't fall asleep on this

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Speaker 5: one and four record.

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Speaker 8: Well, they've the four losses have all been one score games.

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Speaker 8: They've played against Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 3: They have an explosive offense.

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Speaker 8: You know, they're a very good football team. You know

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Speaker 8: they're getting better each week. But they're explosive. They can

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Speaker 8: score or put up a lot of points and certainly

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Speaker 8: would be a challenge.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's start with Joe Burrow, right, you know, he's

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Speaker 5: twelve touchdown passes, which is best in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: He's hitting his completion percentage high. He's averaging a passer

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Speaker 5: rating of one thirteen point six, which is best in

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Speaker 5: the NFL. You know, coach, what makes him such a

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Speaker 5: difficult out as far as going against him?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, he's extremely talented. He can put the ball

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Speaker 8: anywhere he needs to, even when you're covered. You're not

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Speaker 8: covered with a quarterback like that. He can extend plays.

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Speaker 8: He's tough, he's a competitor. He makes good decisions.

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Speaker 5: Coach. Last week, you had to deal with, you know,

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Speaker 5: three really good receivers. It doesn't get any easier this week.

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Speaker 5: The combination of Chase and Higgins. It's almost like they're

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Speaker 5: throwing two number ones at you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about it.

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Speaker 8: And you know, those guys do a great job of

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Speaker 8: getting open, making plays, run after catch, explosive plays down

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Speaker 8: the field, intermediate passes that can take the distance. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's it's certainly a challenge when you have those type

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Speaker 8: of skill players around, you know, an elite quarterback, and

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Speaker 8: you know it shows with the amount of points they

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Speaker 8: put up.

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Speaker 5: Coach, for years, they lean on Joe Mixon. He's not

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Speaker 5: there anymore. He's in Houston. How important is it to

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Speaker 5: make sure that they don't get any kind of momentum

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Speaker 5: going with their running game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's we got to play good team defense.

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Speaker 8: So again, it all starts with with Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 8: the two skilled players. I'd actually say, you know more

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Speaker 8: than that with with Andre, with Joseki and you know

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Speaker 8: Zach and Chase that you just alluded.

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Speaker 3: To in the run game.

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Speaker 8: They're a forminal formudal team with with really good football players.

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Speaker 5: When you go on the other side of the ball, coach,

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Speaker 5: and you look at what they are defensively, what are

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Speaker 5: some of the ears. Obviously Hendrickson leads the team with

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Speaker 5: three sacks, He's been a multiple Pro Bowl player. They

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Speaker 5: got Rankins on the inside, former Giant BJ Hill. What

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Speaker 5: are some of the things that they do just defensively

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Speaker 5: that can disrupt an offense?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, coach, and Romo has done a fantastic job. You know,

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Speaker 8: since he's been in this football league. He's got a

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Speaker 8: wide variety of things that happen on you know, i'd

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Speaker 8: say second and long and in into third down that

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Speaker 8: cause issues with identification, fronts, pressures, and you know, like

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Speaker 8: you said, you know whether it's Trey, you know, Hendrickson

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Speaker 8: or Rankins and Hilton's coming back. A lot of good

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Speaker 8: football players on that side of football.

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Speaker 5: Coach, last week, you had some players step up with

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Speaker 5: other players hurt. And you know your two running backs,

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Speaker 5: Tyrone Tracy and Eric Gray. Gray was effective in the

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Speaker 5: passing game. Tracy obviously ran the ball well. Both guys

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Speaker 5: did good jobs in pass protection. As you look at

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Speaker 5: those players and you get contributions from across the board,

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Speaker 5: what does that say about these young men as they

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Speaker 5: stayed ready when their number was called.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the expectation for him is you know, whether

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Speaker 8: your starter or not is to come in, work hard,

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Speaker 8: be prepared so when your numbers called, you're able to

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Speaker 8: go out there and show at your best. You know,

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Speaker 8: we've had a number of guys do that, and you

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Speaker 8: know throughout the season. This is a long season. There's

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Speaker 8: a lot of things that can happen. You know, every

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Speaker 8: player on this team is here for a reason, and

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Speaker 8: that's our expectation of him.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about the quarterback, Daniel Jones. You know we've

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Speaker 5: seen it with Kirk Cousins coming off as Achille. You know,

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Speaker 5: Rome wasn't built in a day and there was some

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Speaker 5: ring rust and getting into the flow of the game

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Speaker 5: when coming off with severe injury. Daniel's done the same thing.

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Speaker 5: But you know, over these last four games, everything is

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Speaker 5: just getting better and better. Do you get a sense

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Speaker 5: that he's just a little bit more comfortable in everything

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Speaker 5: that's happening around him.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Daniel, We've talked about this plenty of times.

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Speaker 3: He's very consistent.

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Speaker 8: His preparation, whether it's in the class or run the

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Speaker 8: practice field, is is really at a high level. He's

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Speaker 8: very very consistent. His mind is very clear and what

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Speaker 8: he needs to do and how he needs to do it.

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Speaker 8: And he knows, you know, he's been in this league

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Speaker 8: long enough as all of us have that you know,

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Speaker 8: it's a week to week base job and we've got

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Speaker 8: to make sure that, you know, we're doing everything we

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Speaker 8: can do leading up to you know, Sunday or day

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Speaker 8: whenever that is, to be ready to go. But he

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Speaker 8: certainly he does everything he can do throughout the week

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Speaker 8: to make sure he puts himself in best position to

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Speaker 8: be the best he can for our football team.

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Speaker 5: Finally, coach, defensively, you guys have gotten better each and

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Speaker 5: every week. You guys did a good job against the

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Speaker 5: run last week. You lead the NFL with twenty two

751
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Speaker 5: sacks and only one rushing touchdown aloud. Minnesota and Pittsburgh

752
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Speaker 5: are the other teams to do that, and Dexter second

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Speaker 5: in the league in sacks. With a new scheme that's

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Speaker 5: in there, Can you just talk about the growth and

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Speaker 5: maturation of the unit with coach Bowen as each game

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Speaker 5: goes by, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: It really starts with Shane. You know, he's the leader

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Speaker 8: of our defense. He's done a fantastic job. He's a

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Speaker 8: great teammate. He you know, he does a great job

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Speaker 8: with the other coaches of developing a game plan for

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Speaker 8: the things we need to do each week. And then

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Speaker 8: he you know, he does a great job in the

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Speaker 8: meeting rooms of making it come to life for the players.

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Speaker 8: He holds him and in high demand, but he's very

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Speaker 8: respectful to him, and you know he does he does

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Speaker 8: a great job, you know, whether it's in coaching meetings,

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Speaker 8: on the field, and then you know, ultimately it's up

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Speaker 8: to the players to go out there and to to execute,

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Speaker 8: you know, on game day. And it starts, you know

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Speaker 8: with Dexter. I would say, uh, you know, he's a

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Speaker 8: fantastic player for us. You know about all his traits

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Speaker 8: physical length, quickness, size, get off speed, power, But he's

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Speaker 8: very intelligent and he's you know, he's one of the

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Speaker 8: leaders on our football team and then the leader of

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Speaker 8: our defense and you know, bringing guys like Burns and

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Speaker 8: but it's all tied together. You know, you have to

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Speaker 8: play good team defense.

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Speaker 6: We have.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's areas we still need to continue to

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Speaker 8: work on, and you know, our defensive coaches have been

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Speaker 8: really stressing those fundamentals of you know, in particular, i'd

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Speaker 8: say tackling, you know, is very important to us and

783
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Speaker 8: improving in that area. But you know the coaches are

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Speaker 8: you know, aligned with the players, and again they'll have

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Speaker 8: we'll have a stiff challenge against this team. You know,

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Speaker 8: they put up a lot of points. They're a tough cover,

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00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 8: They're hard to defend. Where you have all eleven of

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Speaker 8: us being on the same page on every play.

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Speaker 5: Coach, we appreciate a couple of minutes. Best of luck

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Speaker 5: tonight against the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Bob.

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Speaker 5: That's a head coach of the New York Giants, Brian Dable.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff from all of our guests today.

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