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Speaker 1: I'm Ian Scotto. As many of you know, Jack is

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Speaker 1: a CrossFit studio. Then we actually had ft A gym

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Speaker 1: here in Flugerville, Texas, which is north of Boston. UM

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Speaker 1: and f t A gym became like a very hot

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Speaker 1: spot here in Austin. Actually, we were kind of one

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Speaker 1: of the one of the coolest gyms to be at,

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Speaker 1: Like you have these you have the mainstream gyms in Austin,

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Speaker 1: but then you also have these little like kind of

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Speaker 1: pocket community gyms, if you will. And f t A

436
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Speaker 1: was just one of those known gems like if you

437
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Speaker 1: were an athlete or you're somebody that was in the scene,

438
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Speaker 1: you know, we were one of the places to go, which,

439
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Speaker 1: by the way, you know what I feel like when

440
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Speaker 1: you're at a gym like that, it's so much more motivating.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be the fittiest guy in the gym.

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Speaker 1: I want to see people that motivate me and be like,

443
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Speaker 1: holy shit, this guy is killing it. Yeah, And you know,

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Speaker 1: so my I had no intention of actually buying a gym,

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Speaker 1: funny enough, and I've said this story before I think

446
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: on price Blot at one time. But um, you know,

447
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: Jim's gyms are very difficult entrepreneurial like venture and unless

448
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Speaker 1: you're gonna buy multiple gems and you have some cash

449
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: that you're willing to burn, it's just hard to really

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Speaker 1: make money in this industry. So it's more of a

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Speaker 1: passion thing. And so with f TA Jim, I basically

452
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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to start this up. But I had

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Speaker 1: this idea that you either had commercial gyms or you

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Speaker 1: had these bro gyms. Uh. And the bro gym like

455
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Speaker 1: the metro flex that you know, it's the ego, the

456
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Speaker 1: clicky and and some of the stuff that comes with

457
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Speaker 1: that is not great. But I love the hardcore, I

458
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: love the athletes, I love that environment. Commercial gym's kind

459
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Speaker 1: of like that regular people are comfortable there. So which

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Speaker 1: by the way, I'm a long islander, you know, I'm

461
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Speaker 1: right by I've never actually even been there, but I'm

462
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Speaker 1: right by BEV Francis, which is like the bro Jim.

463
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Speaker 1: I've never even been there. I go to UFC Jim,

464
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: so that would be that'd be interesting to go to that. Man.

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Speaker 1: You have to you have to go and just see

466
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Speaker 1: what they like. I steel like, yeah, there's still history there.

467
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah for sure. Um, but yeah, I had this

468
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Speaker 1: idea to merge these two worlds together. So and it

469
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Speaker 1: took some time, but we we basically made a place

470
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Speaker 1: where you knew you could go to lift heavyweight, if

471
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Speaker 1: you're going to bang them on the ground, whatever, if

472
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Speaker 1: you're gonna you could pick your own music. We played

473
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Speaker 1: it stuff loud, We recorded in there. But we were

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Speaker 1: so welcoming to everybody else, and so we started bringing

475
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Speaker 1: on these very you know, I would say, quote unquote

476
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Speaker 1: average Joe folks, taking them through transformations, teaching them what

477
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Speaker 1: the dead lift platform is, and like embracing people that

478
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Speaker 1: are not necessarily about the life if you um, and

479
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: we were very hard about like if you came in,

480
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Speaker 1: let's say you were a bodybuild and maybe you look great,

481
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: maybe you're successful, if you came in with an ego,

482
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: can get the funk out. Like we had no interest

483
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Speaker 1: in like tainting or or having a cancer within that

484
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: community because it was so important to us and we

485
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Speaker 1: were education driven. That was one of the things that

486
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Speaker 1: was cool. I Mean the gym is called Fitness Trainer Academy,

487
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: so the trainers that we brought on and they were

488
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Speaker 1: all independent contracts, ran their own business, but there was

489
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Speaker 1: a standard of of understanding and an academic standard and

490
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Speaker 1: not necessarily like your piece of paper. But if you

491
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Speaker 1: were in there preaching bro science and bullshit, there's you

492
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you wouldn't last, you know what I mean, like

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Speaker 1: you would you would have been I don't want to

494
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: say shamed out of the gym, but like there's gonna

495
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Speaker 1: be a trainer next to you that's gonna be like

496
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Speaker 1: drop some knowledge on you real fast. What was cool

497
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Speaker 1: about that is like the members now there's so much

498
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Speaker 1: resource for education. I mean, you want to understand you know,

499
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Speaker 1: a dead lift. That's one thing, and any bro can

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Speaker 1: teach you that, but like the joint act ends in

501
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: the biomechanics and that and the mechanisms and why you know,

502
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: a Romanian is so substantially different than a traditional or

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Speaker 1: what a sumo does versus you know. So it was

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Speaker 1: it was just a cool environment. And to be honest

505
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: with you guys, I went through some really hard times.

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Speaker 1: There was some things that I'm not overly proud of, um,

507
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: but I basically went through some really hard divorce and

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Speaker 1: uh ended up in a huge custody battle. Um, hardest

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Speaker 1: time in my life, which, by the way, this is

510
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Speaker 1: way too common with military dudes. Like do you know

511
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: how many guys work for this company that I've or

512
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: been on the podcast have the exact same story with that.

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Speaker 1: And it's definitely a pattern with guys who are who

514
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: are former mill whether it's you know, post traumatic stress

515
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: issues or what. But I hear this story constantly. Mean,

516
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Speaker 1: it's happening with guys in this society in general all

517
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: the time, but military guys like an epidemic. Well I

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Speaker 1: think so. All right, I've said this on the Zero

519
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Speaker 1: Bunker before and this whole this is digestible for everybody listening.

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00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: But like in the military, okay, at least in the

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00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: Marine Corps, you're you're taught to harden up you you're

522
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: you know, in in a way, I was raised that way.

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Speaker 1: That's the way my mom was with me. She was

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Speaker 1: she wasn't put herself into nursing school. Was like, she's

525
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: a hardass. Um didn't wasn't gonna give me any slack,

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Speaker 1: But like that's how she knew that I was going

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Speaker 1: to survive life. Right. Marine Corps is the same way

528
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, I need you to be squared

529
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: the funk away. I need you to be sharp whenever

530
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: we need it, when when the ship is tough, Like

531
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Speaker 1: I don't have time for you to cry, I don't

532
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: have time for you to embrace anything that's great but

533
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: it's not great for civilian life. And I don't give

534
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: a ship. How alpha you think you are being, you

535
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: know some like ego driven in like dude that thinks

536
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: you're alpha, Like, you're not alpha if you can't understand

537
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: the emotions or feelings of your wife, or you can't

538
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: bring yourself down to be on a different playing field.

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00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: And and honestly, then that stuff got to me. You know,

540
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: I let a lot of that. And I was also

541
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: successful and I was making money. I mean, you know,

542
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm not pretending like I'm Will Smith with all this

543
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: cash like going everywhere, but like it was easy for

544
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: me to think that I had the world by the balls,

545
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Uh So, you know, went

546
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: through this divorce. Um I would even think, and not

547
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: to interrupt you, there was this also at the time

548
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: that you were doing like fitness modeling stuff. Yeah there was,

549
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. Uh So I did, uh, the fitness modeling. Actually,

550
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: the way that started was when I did my first show,

551
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 1: which I had no interest in doing the show. By

552
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: the way, guys, what happened there is I helped a

553
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: guy build a gym and this I was very young

554
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: at the time. Um, and a guy walks into the

555
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: gym one day, this big tall, like huge guy and

556
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: he lived in the neighborhood like right next to the gym,

557
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, I just want to check

558
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: it out or whatever. Guy's name is David lean All.

559
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Speaker 1: And what's interesting about David len All is he's a

560
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: pro w NBF bodybuilder and he now is the owner

561
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Speaker 1: of a company called naturally Fit, which is an entire

562
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Speaker 1: body building organization that didn't exist at the time. Um.

563
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Speaker 1: But just just an amazing human being. So he he

564
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: just casually walks in my gym in and he's like, dude,

565
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: you've got a great look, Like you're good looking dude

566
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like yeah, He's like, I'm hosting the show.

567
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: I want you to do my bodybuilding show, and you

568
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: know what, I'll just coach you man, like I won't

569
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: charge you anything. It was the first show he ever

570
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: put on so he took me through it. So that

571
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: was my first experience like going through a prep. I

572
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: got crazy, like, that's it's so funny how you can

573
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: know something. You can understand the textbook, you can you

574
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: can you can banter all you want to, but man,

575
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: there's something you learn in the trenches of just doing.

576
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: And I knew so much about sports nutrition, but it

577
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: wasn't until I went through this like fifteen week process

578
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: of really doing it that I realized that I could

579
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: change everything about the way I look. And if you

580
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: look at the pictures, you look fucking shredded. Man. But

581
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: that's the reason I bring this up with what you

582
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: were saying before, is I would even think, dude, you

583
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: being on like the cover of fitness magazines, there's probably

584
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: a lot of temptation there. I'm sure there was a

585
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: lot of like hot girls hitting you up. And while

586
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: you're married, dude, I'm sure that that pop lose a

587
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: factor too. I mean, I don't know you could speak

588
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: on that, but well, yeah, I mean no, I definitely was.

589
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: And uh, I think that ultimately what all that led to.

590
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: So I have I have all the attention, I have

591
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: the success, I have the knowledge. Um, you know, I

592
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: always felt like I was the smartest guy in the room.

593
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: I could I could out talk to you or be

594
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: the center of attention. Um, and you know, and and

595
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: all that you know seems cool. You know, it's so funny.

596
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: I listen to like rap songs and ship people talking

597
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: about money and ohs and like you being so alpha,

598
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: and it might it was it was me literally being

599
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: in that and understanding that that really, you know, had

600
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: life just slapped me across the face and uh and say,

601
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: You're not You're not so fucking alpha. You're not so

602
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: in control that you think you are. And um, So

603
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: through this process, you know, I was fighting for my kids.

604
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Um anybody has ever gone through that? And most excruciating

605
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: time in my life, I was restricted visitation for my

606
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: kids for extended periods of time. I mean over a year. Um.

607
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: I spent so much money that I'm still very much

608
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: in debt, paying attorneys and things fighting this. I sold

609
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: my businesses to my business partner. I could not function.

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00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: I was just literally like I'll put it to you

611
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: guys this way, like everything that I had that I

612
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: thought was important got taken away from me. And uh,

613
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: but what was awesome about that and that sounds super depressing,

614
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: but it's it's not because what's awesome about that is

615
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: I had to take a step back and like learn

616
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: how to take life by the balls, but from a

617
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: different perspective. And now the things that I appreciate, the

618
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: things that and I'm look, keep it real with you guys,

619
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, and I do social media and I put

620
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: myself out there, but guys, I'm worried about rent every

621
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: month still and I'm in the process of still building

622
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: myself back up. But it's like, I'm okay with that

623
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: because this humbling experience was so amazing and now I've

624
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: got my kids back, i have an incredible, incredible fiance

625
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: that I'm so lucky to to have my life right now.

626
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: And there's just life is really cool. Um. But it

627
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: took a lot of so my journey was kind of interesting,

628
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: you know. I mean to start in the military when

629
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: the fitness went into ego and bodybuilding and fitness modeling

630
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: and had me crushed to the ground, And like here

631
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: I am today. You know, that's cool, man. And and

632
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: I think everybody who is an interesting person and everybody

633
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: who has some some knowledge that other people could gain

634
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: has gone through like some type of crushing experience. But

635
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: the divorce thing, I just hear about way too much

636
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: in the military, and it's something that definitely should be addressed,

637
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: and I wish guys could talk about more, um getting

638
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: into like what you currently do with creating content. So

639
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: I I came across where you were working up until

640
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: extremely recently, which is price Plow. I love the fact

641
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Speaker 1: that you guys were like, no bullshit about supplements and

642
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: you know what worked, what didn't work, what good deals

643
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: were out there. Um. And then your knowledge on your

644
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: own personal channel and by the way, everybody could check

645
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Speaker 1: out all of this at c G C. J. Woodworth

646
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Speaker 1: dot m E. All of your links are on there,

647
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: from your YouTube channel, your Instagram, all that stuff. Um.

648
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: But I've just as someone who's into fitness not as

649
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: a profession but as a lifestyle thing, the same thing

650
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: that you are. I got into it as well for

651
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: like getting my mind off things, and I did realize

652
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: like it built up so much positivity in me. It's

653
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: it's about so much more than the physical asthetic aspect

654
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: for me, and I think for a lot of people, Um,

655
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: A lot of people start for that reason and then

656
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: once they get into it, they realize like all of

657
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: the mental positive effects that they get from it, all

658
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: the psychological positive effects from it. Um. Yeah, we talked

659
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: about the the two types of motivation are like extrinsic

660
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: and intrinsic, and and any good trainer out there, you know,

661
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: you can dangle the care at all you want. That's

662
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: the extrinsic motivation. You want to get the trophy, you

663
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: want to get the love, you want to get the

664
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: Instagram like, you want to get the money. That's extrinsic,

665
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: and that's great, but it's short lived. So you always

666
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: need to be going after the intrinsic And that's the

667
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: love for the game. You know, any Michael Jordan or

668
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: anybody out there, If if the love for the game

669
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: wasn't there, the extrinsic ship didn't come along, you know

670
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, absolutely right. Um So yeah, as

671
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: someone who just is into this, I'm always watching content

672
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: on YouTube about fitness, um and some of it is

673
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: useful to me, some of it is not. I've I've

674
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: mentioned this quote a million times on the podcast before,

675
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: but I don't even think I say it often enough.

676
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: That Bruce Lee quote of absorbed What is useful, discard

677
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: what is useless, add what is uniquely your own. I

678
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: think there's way too many people who watch these YouTube

679
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: channels and you're either in agreement with someone and they're

680
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: like the guru or this person's an asshole. You know.

681
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Like I watched a lot of Rich Piano while he

682
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: was alive, and he was like the ultimate fitness YouTuber,

683
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: and there was definitely a lot of negative points about

684
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: the guy in that. For one, I mean he was

685
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 1: on a ton of different steroids. Of course, then beyond that,

686
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: we're open about it, man, just a very transparent that

687
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: that's the one. You know what's funny is I hated

688
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: I hated five percent Nutrition and Rich Piano like that

689
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: whole randing because it was what I didn't stand for,

690
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: which is this like overly bro tribal tattooed fucking milk

691
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: jug thing. And but when I got to I actually,

692
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, I've had I've had an opportunity, very lucky

693
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: to meet Rich Beyond on a couple of occasions and

694
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: work with five percent Nutrition, who owns the company. Yeah,

695
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: so I you know what, and I found I found

696
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: so much respect and it was mostly not because of

697
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: his information, Like For me, it was a macro perspective

698
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: and to say, you know, this guy is just living

699
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: on his terms, just being brutally honest. He really was like, yeah,

700
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: and I gotta have a respect for that, you know.

701
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: And I would think there's some cross section just because

702
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: he's so popular, but I mean, look, the guy definitely

703
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: had some I would say extreme body dysmorphia because beyond

704
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: the steroids, the guy was injecting himself with all types

705
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: of oils. And for those who don't know about the

706
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: whole scentthhol thing, I know that this isn't this whole

707
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: um audience. But yeah, I mean there was a lot

708
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: of weird stuff going on with that. But nonetheless I

709
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: watched channel and a lot of that obviously did not

710
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: apply to me. But every now and again he would

711
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: say something that I was like, I'm going to use

712
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: this um. I actually like the fact that, you know.

713
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Speaker 1: For example, when he would do the protein shakes, he

714
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: was very open that he's like, I don't use protein powder.

715
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: This is what I do. And he would either do

716
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: if a combination of like egg whites, sweet potato, some blueberries,

717
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: or he would do something of oatmeal, peanut butter and

718
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: I started doing more of that rather than wasting so

719
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: much money on protein supplements. And I know that you're

720
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: a believer in a lot of those supplements, but I

721
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: actually think what he was doing made sense as well,

722
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: to be using real food for a lot of things,

723
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: and so I just I always I preach that that

724
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: actually led into supplements that he made that were real

725
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: foods like food. That's why I always preaching your like

726
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: people will um sometimes not like a guess that we

727
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: have on or not like something that I said on

728
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: the podcast. You don't have to agree with everything that

729
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: I say, and that's how I watch everything on YouTube.

730
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: I might not agree with everything you're saying on your

731
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: channel at some point, but if there's something you're saying

732
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: that I could take into my life and use and

733
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: is positive and I think it is good information, I'm

734
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: going to use that. So just utilize what what works

735
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: for you I think is important. You know, yeah, the

736
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: way that I would put it to everybody, and you're,

737
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: first of all, you're absolutely fucking right. And it annoys

738
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: me to no end because what we've done is we've

739
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: become lazy. We just want the headline and we want

740
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: to take it for truth. And guys, First of all,

741
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: truth in itself is subjective, Okay, it's it's your idea

742
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: of what truth looks like. Now, you know, when you

743
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: are watching something, the best piece of advice I could

744
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: give you is try to first before you absorb it,

745
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: before you take it for reality, try to disprove it, Okay,

746
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: try to try to put it through the ringer and

747
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: look at it from the opposite and of how you're

748
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: feeling first. From there you can make an objective decision.

749
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: And you know, also, don't define somebody based off of

750
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: one thing that they did or said. That's ridiculous. Um.

751
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: The fact, Yeah, the fact is like I don't like

752
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: any I don't like everything that my fiance says. Okay,

753
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: I love of her. I'm still attached to her. Most

754
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: of the things she says I really enjoy, right, Um,

755
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: And that's just the human nature. But we've gotten so

756
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's it's maybe it's so sensitive

757
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: or something, but it's like people are just so ready

758
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: to like put that nasty comment because of one comment

759
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: that they disagreed with or whatever you made. Yeah, I

760
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: I agree completely. You know what I'm wondering, um with

761
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: this audience especially. Is there anything that you learned in

762
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps regimen that you took into your fitness Uh,

763
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: you know regimen absolutely, Um, you know that. And it's

764
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: probably hard to speak to completely because it's not it's

765
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: not physical, guys, it is completely mental. As a matter

766
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: of fact, I'm a huge critic of a lot of

767
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: the military's uh physical fitness stuff, and and that's I'm

768
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of a fitness snob because you know,

769
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: I've I understand it too well, and I think knowledge

770
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: sometimes can be a poison because I'm criticizing every time

771
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: I look at somebody's workout. Um, but what I did

772
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: gain from the military that is so valuable is just

773
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: the mental fortitude. And the thing about fitness is as

774
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: complicated as you want to make it all right. I

775
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care how well you can program.

776
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: I don't care how well like you understand the information.

777
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: If you don't have the mindset to push yourself to

778
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: overload and pass the point where you think you can't

779
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: go anymore, then you're missing the entire you know, value

780
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: of what's going on in the military allowed me. I'll

781
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: never forget, Like you know, it's basic training. There's also

782
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: things in combat that I experienced, But there were these

783
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: moments in the military that I would do something that

784
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: before I did it, I thought, with everything in me,

785
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: I can't do that, like that's not possible for me.

786
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: And then I would do it. I'd be forced to

787
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: do it, but I would do it, and then I'd

788
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: walk away from that going holy fuck, like I can

789
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: do so much more than I thought. And uh, you know,

790
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: so I think the military for that, you know, just

791
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: showing me what I'm capable of, which obviously translated into

792
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: a certain confidence in the gym. That's cool, man. Yeah,

793
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: I think a lot of special ops guys on this

794
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: show exactly they'll say the same thing, that it's all

795
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: mental more so than the physical. Um. I also want

796
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: to hear about zero Bunker. Where did the idea come about?

797
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: And you also host that with another military guy? Yeah?

798
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: Super cool? Um? All right, So Zero Foxtrot is a

799
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: is a military apparel brand. Geo kicked me in the

800
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: ass if he hears me call it a T shirt company.

801
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: He fucking sells T shirts, so it's but they're incredibly successful.

802
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: They do coffee and shirts and all kinds of stuff. Now,

803
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: where I get tied into. This is interesting because we

804
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: had f t a gym. At the time, I'm going

805
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: through my mental stuff that I was talking about my

806
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: I was in my low point. Okay, at that I

807
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: had decided that I didn't want to take on any

808
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: more personal training clients because I don't know if if

809
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: you guys realize, but like if if the trainer is

810
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: mentally in a bad place, I can't be your support system. Um.

811
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: And so there was this uh, I guess uh. I

812
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: had decided, like, I'm not gonna take on any more clients.

813
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: I need to look at other things because like, I

814
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: can't be the best version of myself as a trainer.

815
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: Funny enough, I'm at the gym working out and this

816
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: guy walks in, and uh, he's interested in in signing up.

817
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: So I talked to him, you know a little bit,

818
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: and he says, you know, he's interested in a trainer,

819
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: And I told him straight up, like, you know, I'm

820
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: not really taking out clients, but there's a lot of

821
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: you know. But we just kind of start kicking it

822
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: and I realized this guy was a marine. He served

823
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: overseas the year prior to me in Iraq. And then

824
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: he did another deployment right back the same years as me.

825
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: He was in Ramadi when I was in Fallujah, and um,

826
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm so I'm like hearing this guy

827
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: and he's he it's well, I don't know if like

828
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: sometimes you just feel a connection with another human being,

829
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: because we just yeah, absolutely, when he started just opening

830
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: up about things that were a little deeper, you know,

831
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: things like some of that post traumatic stuff that he

832
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: deals with and some of the things with the BA

833
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: has gone through. And he didn't tell me anything about

834
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: what does I have no idea what this fucking guy does?

835
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: And um, so I'm like, you know what, man, Like,

836
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: I want to work with you. Man Like, there's just

837
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: something about you that like, I you know, I don't

838
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: know this is this is not coincidence. So we start

839
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: training together and I realized that he is the guy

840
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: that started zero Foxtrot and this is amazing. So in

841
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: his lowest time, when he was dealing with stuff, he

842
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: he didn't know how to express himself or how to

843
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: get it out right, and so he started an Instagram page.

844
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: And this isn't the early days of Instagram or maybe

845
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: his Facebook first and then Instagram, but he just started

846
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: posting kind of like dark thoughts. It was things that

847
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: like people didn't talk about in the military, was stuff

848
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: like some of the history of like some of the

849
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: nasty things that you we don't you know, always get into.

850
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: And uh man, he started building this following and people

851
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: connected with it. They felt like, like, I don't know,

852
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: it was like like a real million you know, some

853
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: of these military brands, um, you know, and I don't

854
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: want to knock anybody. Everybody's got their niche and it's awesome.

855
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: But the fact this is there's a lot of like

856
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: merka brands, you know what I mean, like oh, you know, red, white,

857
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: and Blue, and it's about drinking beer and girls in

858
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: bikinis and all this ship. And he did it totally different.

859
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: It was like real fucked up things that military people

860
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: think about. And uh so he built this huge following.

861
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: He's got two hundred and seventy thousand people on Instagram.

862
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: I think at Zulu Fox is his Instagram page, and

863
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: uh that turned into your foxtrot. People were like, hey,

864
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: do we want to make a make a shirt, make

865
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: a coin, make it what you know. So now it's

866
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: a you know, multimillion dollar company and he does very

867
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: well for himself. So during this process he tells me

868
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: all this background and uh, he gets to know me,

869
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: and he's like, dude, we gotta do something. And media

870
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: was kind of my thing, and I was like, let's

871
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: do a podcast, or actually I think it was his

872
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: idea originally, and so we we just wanted to fire

873
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: it up, like get on YouTube. He'd never really been

874
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: on YouTube, he really never put his face out there.

875
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: And uh, we wanted to make the Instagram like what

876
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: he was doing on Instagram with these stories and some

877
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: of this just raw realness. We wanted to put that

878
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: on into a format like what you're doing. And so

879
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: Zero Bunker kind of uh, you know, kicked off and

880
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: it's still relatively new. I mean we only got a

881
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: couple of thousand subscribers, guys. I mean, we're really trying

882
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: to build it. But if you guys are interested in

883
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: kind of a and keep in mind, it's a lot

884
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: of f moms, is a lot of unfiltered And I

885
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: remember the episode because I've I've watched some of it

886
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: where you said we're a safe, safe space for skull fuckers.

887
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: That's like kick it off, Yeah, and that's that's like

888
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: like the way Zero is is. They're very like, um,

889
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's like drink coffee stack bodies. It's it's

890
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: a it's a soul snatcher, it's it's it's very like

891
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: military would get it. I think that a lot of

892
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: civilians looking at him like these motherfucker's you know, but

893
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, it's just the way that

894
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: some of the military expressed themselves. And uh yeah, So

895
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: it's it's been a lot of fun, man. I've really

896
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: enjoyed the uh the podcast A loss and we do

897
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: it once a week right now. Very cool man. And

898
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: you had one of our own writers on there, John

899
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: Striker Meyer. Yeah, that dude is fucking crazy man. John. Yeah,

900
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, he'll probably listen, it's maybe, but John,

901
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: it was the coolest one. Like I don't want to

902
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: say the coolest, because you have some badass guys, but

903
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: he was one of the cooler guys. And it was

904
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: it was so funny. Uh that day, we were doing

905
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: a skype thing and we had technical problems and I'm

906
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: not kidding. It probably went on for like three hours

907
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: of us trying to figure it out. And it's later

908
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: the night. Yeah, it was like late into the night

909
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: and John was still about it, and like we fired

910
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: it up and they started going in and his story

911
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: was just incredible. I mean so, I mean there was

912
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: a point where he said something about like the enemy

913
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: having to stack their own bodies to stand on to

914
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: get vantage points. And I'll never forget GE's face. He's like,

915
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: holy fucky, we put stack bodies on the shirts, like

916
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: that's legitimately happened. Yeah, Well, you guys seem to be

917
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: doing a lot of stuff with the older veterans in general,

918
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: like prior to g Watt and some of the Vietnam guys.

919
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's great because some of those guys,

920
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: and we've talked about it on the show with John

921
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: and others, have never really gotten their story out there.

922
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 1: There's a ton of guys from this era putting out books,

923
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: doing podcasts, which is great, Like, I wouldn't you doing

924
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: this without those guys, So I can't knock them. But yeah,

925
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: there's Vietnam guys who it was a very different attitude

926
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: out there. People didn't see therapists. It was like, you know,

927
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: shame to go out there and say I have post

928
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: traumatic stress issues and you know, can adjust to civilian life.

929
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: What Luckily that stigma is changing. But I think it's

930
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: important for some of these guys were in their last

931
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: year's life to come out there and say, hey, this

932
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: is what I did, this is my story, and be

933
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: be fucking proud of it. Yeah. And you know, Ge

934
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: always says so he is big into the history of

935
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: it in the old school stuff. And and he says that,

936
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, his grandfather was a World War Two veteran

937
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: and he didn't get he never had he never took

938
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: the opportunity to ask him about his experience and like

939
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: to learn from him, and he passed away and he

940
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: so he missed his opportunity. And he says, you know

941
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: how many other people like this kind of thing is

942
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: happening for and he he doesn't want these legacies and

943
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: these lessons UH to go away. And so we've we've

944
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: actually went around and we've talked to some of the

945
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: most I talked to a guy, UH that was st

946
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: ending on Sara Bacci when they raised the flag, like

947
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps raising the flag. And I mean this

948
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: guy was that he watched it happen. Um, It's just

949
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: and it's so amazing to me because I'll keep it

950
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: real with you. Guys like Zero Bonker is very history driven.

951
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: I never was into history. I never like thought about

952
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: like the old school guy. And I know that sounds

953
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: like anti American or something. It's like, it's not. It

954
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: never crossed my mind, you know. And uh so. But

955
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: but getting exposed to this, I'm like, holy funk, I

956
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: feel like I've been I was missing like an important

957
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: thing this entire time. Like it's it's anyway, It's just

958
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: it's really been awesome. Sometimes you appreciate different things later

959
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: in life. Um. I mean, for one, I'm not former military,

960
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: as you know, if Jack was here, he could speak

961
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: to all that. But um, you know, I went to

962
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: all these national parks as a young kid on these

963
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: like teen tour trips, and I went to the Grand Canyon,

964
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: I went to Badlands National Park, and to be honest,

965
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: I barely remember it. And I go now and I'm like,

966
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: this is amazing. How did I not appreciate this experience

967
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: at the time. Um, And then even you seem like

968
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: you're in the same category. But Jack Murphy's talked about

969
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: this on the show. You know, not everybody joins the

970
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: military for these patriotic like I love my country on

971
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: a stand up for my country reasons, like He'll be

972
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: the first thing like I did this for my own

973
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: selfish reasons. This is just what I wanted to do

974
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, absolutely, And that's

975
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that's really important about Zero

976
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: Bunker and Zero Fox Drive the brand is that we

977
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: were when people say keeping it real, like we're we're

978
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: talking about the ultimate level of that with that, and

979
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: so like we've said things like before like look, we're

980
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: overseas in the ship. I wasn't fighting for my country.

981
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: I was fighting to save my brother next to me

982
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: and get my ass home. That was it is what

983
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: it is, right, um. And I know this sounds bad

984
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: because ultimately, yeah, the big picture was had you know,

985
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: we're United States Marines, um. But yeah, I mean there

986
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: there is natural like like different different people are there

987
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 1: for different reasons, and I think a lot of times

988
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: we're kind of sold this like urrah patriotic like you know,

989
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: and that's just not always like the truth of everybody there,

990
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: like when you're in it, you know, you know what

991
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it's a good like umbrella. I guess

992
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: to look at um. But yeah, different people sign up

993
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: for different reasons, so yeah, everybody has a different story.

994
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, James Reagan, for example, who

995
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: served with guys who have been on the podcast, like

996
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: Leo Jenkins. He came from the town that I'm from,

997
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: and that's why you see, like James Reagan stuff all

998
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: over the place where I live. And he was a

999
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: guy who you know, turned down major financial jobs in

1000
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: New York City to become an army ranger, like post

1001
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: nine eleven, he was like, I want to serve my country.

1002
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I want to be there, And there are plenty of

1003
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: guys like that, But then there's plenty of guys who

1004
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: joined for completely different reasons and that's okay. Like I

1005
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: always sent here. I've learned as the civilian, like the

1006
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: military is not a monol. If you ask, you know,

1007
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: you're in a room with military guys and you asked

1008
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: their opinion on issues, and you're even get a lot

1009
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: of different answers. Yeah, no, a fucking literally, Um yeah,

1010
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: I agree with that ad percent. You know, and and

1011
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: also like I know was zero Bunker, like we're we're

1012
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: very adamant about you know, a lot of people they

1013
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: feel the need of like, man, I wish I would

1014
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: have joined or I you know, this kind of like

1015
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: almost like a guilt that some people seem to have

1016
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: when they talk to veterans. I've heard that a lot. Yeah,

1017
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: I've heard when I've gone to like our team room parties,

1018
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: I hear like, oh, it's my biggest regret. You know,

1019
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: I'll never be able to live that down that didn't

1020
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: serve And I'll be honest, I don't really have that.

1021
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: I I had a desire at one time to join

1022
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: the military, and just because the radio thing happened, it

1023
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: didn't work out that way. But I almost feel like

1024
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: I got to fulfill part of that by hanging with

1025
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: guys like you and being a part of that community,

1026
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: just as a civilian who loves talking to you guys

1027
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: and talking about issues that you might struggle with or

1028
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: issues that you know that are important to you. Well,

1029
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, just like in the military, like

1030
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: everybody needs to understand that, Like there are different mo

1031
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: os is for different jobs. There's a big picture that

1032
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: has to go on in unison, and so people have

1033
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: different jobs. Well, if you look at that as the

1034
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: United States as a whole, or as the world as

1035
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: a whole. The fact is is that civilian or military

1036
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: like you have your place in this world and that

1037
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: should be respected just as much as somebody that joined. Look,

1038
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: I respect our veterans like I'm always gonna give you know.

1039
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: Obviously I am a veteran man and that's amazing. But

1040
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: also we can't forget to show respect for the civilians

1041
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: and the amazing things that have happened and that go

1042
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: on constantly that allow us you know all of this,

1043
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: I mean a radio show like they wouldn't software it

1044
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: might not be the thing that it is obviously without

1045
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: you being here and you know your history going into it.

1046
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: So thanks man. Yeah. I also wanted to hear about

1047
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: the new stuff with Prime Evil Labs. I saw that

1048
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: you announced that, just like last week, they're a great brand.

1049
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: I I do actually use e A max um because

1050
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: and that's the YouTube thing and that I learned all

1051
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: about the whole b C A A versus e A

1052
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: A thing. I educated myself and I was like, okay,

1053
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start using this. I do feel a difference.

1054
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: I am not getting paid to say that, like you

1055
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: guys are not as sponsor of the podcast. I hate

1056
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: you up before I even heard about this. But Anthony

1057
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: Anthony with Prime Evil. If you're listening to this man,

1058
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: you you got to send some free a max at

1059
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: this point, I mean, just save you a shout out,

1060
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. Uh yeah, but I'd love to

1061
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: hear about the story of how that happened. Well, so

1062
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: you know you had mentioned price Plow earlier. So price

1063
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: Blow was I have a lot of history of price

1064
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Plow and that's how I kind of got into YouTube

1065
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: really originally. And I was doing bodybuilding and this guy

1066
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Mike comes in the gym one day as a hardcore gyn.

1067
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: We're working out called Big Text, and uh so we're

1068
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: at Big Text. Mike comes and he was like, hey, man,

1069
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: like you like to talk and stuff, like you want

1070
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: to be on camera like review supplements with me. And

1071
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: it was super unplanned, like we had this shitty we

1072
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: had to sell home camera, the shitty little waterproof like

1073
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever seen those cameras, you know,

1074
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: like you like handheld cameras or whatever, like the water

1075
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: Um it was back in the day. I think there

1076
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: was also cameras called like flips or something like that. Anyway,

1077
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: so we had these uh, this little shitty camera hang

1078
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: on this punching bag, and we started recording videos. So

1079
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: we were kind of the O G s of supplement

1080
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: reviews on YouTube, like just nobody was really doing it,

1081
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: and or if they were, it just wasn't very popular.

1082
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: And so we started doing it and it got a

1083
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: little bit of traction, and then honestly, like a year

1084
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: into it, we just fell off. I mean, we got

1085
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: up to a couple of thousand subscribers, and we just

1086
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: we didn't take it seriously. We did not realize the

1087
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: power of YouTube at the time, right. Um, I mean

1088
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: we took it seriously in the sense that like this

1089
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: great information, but he was using it more for like

1090
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: posts on his blog and stuff like that, and you know,

1091
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: YouTube it wasn't about algorithms and all that bullshit, Like

1092
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: we didn't know anything about it. And so a couple

1093
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: of like about you know, we took like a year

1094
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: off pretty much, and then we got back into it

1095
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: and we started taking it seriously. And that's where like

1096
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: me and Robert really started like reviewing these supplements, and uh,

1097
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, we were just consistent, we were crushing it.

1098
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: So we jumped up where you know, it's a twelve

1099
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: thousand subscribers or something within a year. We just killed

1100
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: it and we're doing so great. So so that was

1101
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: my history of Price Plot. Well, obviously we review supplements,

1102
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: and what happens is we're tied to a lot of brands.

1103
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean I started it was it was amazing. I

1104
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: mean I started rubbing shoulders and like texting with Furious Pete,

1105
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know, talking to the guys

1106
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: that owned Ghosts. They're really good friends. I mean Ben

1107
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: a New Tribio will text me. I mean, so we've

1108
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: I've just got these friendships and these relationships that are amazing,

1109
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: and Anthony with Prime Evil was one of these. And

1110
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I had no intention of

1111
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: leaving Price Bat at all. I mean I was very

1112
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm very um, I'm very loyal to like whatever I'm doing.

1113
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just really important to me kind

1114
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: of have that right or dimontality. Maybe that's a Marine

1115
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: Corps thing, um, but it got to a point to

1116
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: be honest with you, guys that you know, personally financially,

1117
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: a lot of like personal stuff has been going on

1118
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to rebuild and I'm trying to really

1119
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: create structure for my life and and uh kind of

1120
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: like move forward in Price Bow is just a difficult

1121
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: vehicle for me to be able to do that. And

1122
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: uh so I reached out to Prime Evil, and uh,

1123
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: they made me a great offer. I told Mike with

1124
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: price Pot. I had a conversation with him before I left.

1125
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: It was very like, you know, I was like, I

1126
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: need your blessing, you know what I mean, and everything

1127
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: probably yeah, absolutely, and and so he he agreed and

1128
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: thought that it was good. He's been very supportive and

1129
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: h so I'm very recently now a part of team

1130
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: Prime Evil, and um, you know, I've loved Prime Evil

1131
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: ever since we've been reviewing. There's something e a Max

1132
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: blew me the funk Away reup it just I was

1133
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: gonna say, I love the I've only had the watermelon.

1134
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: I love it. But more than just the taste, I

1135
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: actually do seem to feel a genuine difference. Sometimes you

1136
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: don't know what's placevo and what's real. But I mean

1137
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: I do really feel like it's you know, maximize my workouts. Yeah,

1138
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: and you know, you know it's it's one of those

1139
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: things I think that you know sometimes, Yeah, I mean,

1140
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: whether it's placevo or not. It's like, hey, if you

1141
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: feel great, you feel great? Yeah, awesome. Actually Alex Hollands,

1142
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: who's a marine who does our Old Man Fitness column, Um,

1143
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: he had a really funny quote on the last show

1144
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: he was on. He was like, yeah, nothing will like

1145
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: motivate me, Like if I spent forty on a tub

1146
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: of bullshit. He's like, I'm gonna use the funk out

1147
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: of that forty dollar tub of bullshit and make myself

1148
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: believe that it's making a difference. But no, I I

1149
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: really look you probably more so than me. No science

1150
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: behind the a max, but I do feel a difference

1151
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: that I love it. Well. Yeah, so you had mentioned like, um,

1152
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: the bet. So what was cool about Price Blow and

1153
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: and this this fit with me naturally a number one.

1154
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm on camera, I get to talk, all right, so

1155
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: that's that's normal for me. But also there was this

1156
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: education kind of getting into the deeper understanding of things.

1157
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: And I was more in the supplement world, which wasn't

1158
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: necessarily my forte but it was attached to the fitness world,

1159
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: so it was normal. So with price Plow, we were

1160
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: doing a lot of like you know, reading the research

1161
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: and like talking to guys that are actually heading up

1162
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: some of these studies and stuff and and uh so

1163
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: one of the recent kind of changes in the industry

1164
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: has been b c A has hit the market. You know,

1165
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: which your branching amino acids they make up the lucy

1166
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: and iolucin and vealen, lucy being the primary driver of

1167
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: the three. But they're only three of nine essential amino acids.

1168
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: And um, what's interesting about the three is they're kind

1169
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: of like they're kind of the ones that are going

1170
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: to get the things started. I mean, they're they're going

1171
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: to trigger anabolism. Uh They're they're really kind of the

1172
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: anabolic if you will, like the trigger. What we didn't

1173
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: understand at the time, and this is this is the

1174
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: way it is with something in the industry is that

1175
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, um, we can take things and say like, okay,

1176
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: our genine. We know that our genine is causes vasodilation

1177
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: in the body. We know that that it's a conditionally

1178
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: essential amino acid that causes your veins to dilate. So

1179
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: people started putting in pills and it's like, hey, we

1180
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: got palm supplements. The problem is that the research hadn't

1181
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: caught up, and what it turns out is that when

1182
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: you consume ourginine, it degrades to such a point that

1183
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: it's not as effective, uh, if effective at all. And

1184
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: so that the same thing with b C as we

1185
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: knew that we're anabolic, but what we didn't realize was

1186
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: it was irrelevant if the other amino acids weren't alongside

1187
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: of it, like you can be quote unquote anabolic. Like

1188
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: it's like the gates are open, but nothing's going through.

1189
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: And um, so that's where these companies are starting to

1190
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: shift to fully dosed like Essential amino acid products and

1191
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: Primeval Labs. That's one of the things I have the

1192
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: most respect about them is I Max been around for

1193
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: a long time, so they've actually been on that bandwagon

1194
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: before it was cool and so I think that's fucking awesome.

1195
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: Another thing that they did that was fucking amazing that

1196
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: I was skeptical about and it actually ended up being

1197
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: great was the launch of Mega Pre and that's their

1198
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: pre workout and uh, it's STEM free and I was

1199
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: kind of the stem junkie on the channel, you know,

1200
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: and it was funny that was more of a persona

1201
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: than it was like I don't want to say it

1202
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: wasn't real life, Like yes, I like high stems and

1203
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I probably take more than the average

1204
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: person typically, but I wasn't you know. I feel like

1205
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: people made me out to be some like crackhead, and

1206
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: that always happens, I think when you have an outlet

1207
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: and it becomes like an inside joke on the channel.

1208
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: Like for me, my mind is like my obsession with

1209
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman. It's it's not that bad, but it's like

1210
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: every time we bring up North Korea, I bring up

1211
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: that documentary he did or it was a part of

1212
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: the Big Bang in pyong Yang, and people are either

1213
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: like a more Big Bang and pyeong yangie and or

1214
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: enough with that fucking movie. So no, I know you

1215
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: mean mentioned something. What do you say? Fucking dinners Robin Man?

1216
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: That have to watch that? By the way, what's that?

1217
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: Do you ever watch that? The Big Bang in Pyongyang? No? No,

1218
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I mean I've kind of kept

1219
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: up with some of his relationship and and I kind

1220
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: of like the way I watched politics and stuff is

1221
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: like I I watched like snippets and I like, I

1222
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: feel like it's like speed reading you know what I mean,

1223
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: but I typically would sit down, wouldn't sit down and

1224
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: like watch a whole documentary, but I will now it's

1225
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman. I'm the same way though, because I you know,

1226
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: I talked to people who watch seven mainstream news cycle,

1227
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: which I don't anymore, and I am just as informed

1228
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: as them, I feel, because what you see in the

1229
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: headlines on Twitter, as long as you're reading reliable sources,

1230
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: it's the same thing you're watching on the news, except

1231
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: they're debating it NonStop split screen debates, and it's like, yes,

1232
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: I get this issue by now, I don't need to

1233
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: watch like a two hour split screen debate on it.

1234
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: I know what you mean. Well, and I know we

1235
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: kind of went sideways, but I will say that if

1236
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: anybody's listening, one of the one of the best things

1237
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: that I did was I started actually diversifying like my

1238
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: news outlets. That was so I would you know, you've

1239
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: got the mainstream extreme US over here, you gotta extream

1240
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: us over here. You know. It's rare to have somebody

1241
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: that's really down the middle, maybe some of them, but

1242
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: I started, like, you know, it's like if I'm watching Fox,

1243
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: like a snippet on YouTube, like maybe two minutes of

1244
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 1: Fox talking about something, I'll then go see what seeing

1245
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: In said about the same thing, so on, so forth.

1246
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a good way too in my mind,

1247
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: like make up my mind on like what I think

1248
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: about it. So I hear you, all right, so my

1249
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: A d D is definitely kicking it back to STEM

1250
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: free pre workout. Yeah, so it was cool because all right,

1251
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: so what ended up happening? And I don't even know

1252
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: if I'm I don't know if I can supposed to

1253
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: be sharing the whole thing. But like anyway, Anthony and

1254
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 1: I we had some back and forth with price Plot

1255
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: about Mega pre launching. It was gonna be an awesome thing.

1256
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: We're launching this pre workout. But we had originally expectations

1257
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: that this was going to be a STEM based pre workout,

1258
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: and I was super excited about it. Um and out

1259
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: of nowhere, I just it's like I wouldn't hear in

1260
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: back from Anthony in a while, and he's a busy dude,

1261
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: run a big company. Um, but out of nowhere, it's

1262
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: like the announced no stems in in this product, and

1263
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck? You know, Like, so I'm

1264
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: sitting here going that's a bowl move. I don't know

1265
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: that that's gonna work. I mean because a lot of

1266
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: people you you mentioned like the placebo effect. What's great

1267
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: about STEM based products and supplements is that people feel

1268
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: them acutely, they feel them immediately. So guess what. Caffeine

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Speaker 1: is a big seller because you you take it and

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Speaker 1: you feel it. UM. When you don't have that, it's

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Speaker 1: harder to sell, if that makes sense, you know what

1272
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Speaker 1: I mean, Like like think of like creatin. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna feel a goddamn thing with Creatin until it builds

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Speaker 1: up in your system over a period of time. And

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Speaker 1: even then it's gonna be a gradual like whether or

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00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: not you really notice it. Um. So you know it's

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Speaker 1: it's a tougher sell. So they launch it and I'm

1278
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm skepto. I'm like, Okay, STEM basically workout. But I

1279
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: took this product and I'm telling you guys, they first

1280
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: of all, it was a huge hit. People loved it. Um.

1281
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's set the tone for this whole

1282
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: category is STEM free pre workouts. Not that it wasn't

1283
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: there already, but they like took it to the next

1284
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: level and they diversified the the pump ingredients to such

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00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: an extent that whenever I took it the first time,

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Speaker 1: it was it was kind of one of my first times,

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I think, to really get some crazy pumps out of

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Speaker 1: a supplement. I've had some scenarios with like like I

1289
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: remember GASPARI I took UM super Pump to fifty Uh,

1290
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: what's funny about that scenario? Slaps on hand here. So

1291
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: that turns out that some of the sample, the beta

1292
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Speaker 1: packs that they were actually sending out to people that

1293
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: review were spiked with like c alis, which is that's

1294
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: fucked up, right. So that's like, oh, I get a

1295
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 1: great experience, and now I'm selling it to everybody else,

1296
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: um and having like a heart on at the gym

1297
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,479
Speaker 1: probably exactly exactly. Um. Yeah. So anyway, it's but Mega

1298
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: pre was awesome, and they've they've got a slew of

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Speaker 1: other really good products. Um, and there's actually gonna be

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Speaker 1: a huge launch. I can't tell you what it is.

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Speaker 1: I can't give you any information. All I can say

1302
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: is that in the next month you're gonna see a

1303
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: huge announcement that's gonna be coming from Prime Evil. Um.

1304
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: But you know, overall, you know I'm not gonna sit

1305
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: here and ever tell somebody to tie yourself to one

1306
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: brand or like you need to take Prime Evil, Like

1307
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: we're really big on like no bullshit, give you the truth.

1308
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: And honestly, I love the company. I like the supplements.

1309
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: It's great if you decide that's for you. Cool, um,

1310
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: but we don't necessarily shove it down your throat, you know. Yeah, absolutely,

1311
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Man. This has been great talking with you,

1312
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: and I really encourage people to check out both Zero

1313
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: Bunker and your own personal blogs. If you're someone that's

1314
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Speaker 1: into fitness, Um, you know your your video blog vlogs,

1315
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: I should say going, I'm trying. I am trying to

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Speaker 1: build that up. So yeah, so if anybody hits with that, subscribe,

1317
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: but like that, I'm trying to do these daily vlogs

1318
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Speaker 1: and I really do want that to become something. And

1319
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: right now it's it's a little YouTube's a struggle, it's

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Speaker 1: a fight, uh and I'm in that fighting mode. I'm

1321
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Speaker 1: like a little over five dred subscribers, so any support

1322
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: is fucking amazing. Like you just type in my name

1323
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: in YouTube, I'm right there. Yeah, and you can tell

1324
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: them that soft rep ratio setting you. You know, it's

1325
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: definitely appreciated. It's mainly I would say, because I've watched

1326
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: most of them. I'm subscribed to you mainly fitness Base,

1327
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: but you get into some other stuff of just you know,

1328
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: people probably see you and they see like tatted up,

1329
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: badass looking dude, but you are very much if you

1330
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: watch your vlogs like a family man just doing regular

1331
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: family man ship. Yeah, you know, the future of kind

1332
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: of like the way things are going now with the

1333
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: society is like people have an interest in just like

1334
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: your life. To a certain extent, we're very viral and

1335
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: uh or a boyor you know, it's it's like we're

1336
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, we want to see like inside of people's lives.

1337
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Speaker 1: And so it's fun for me because I do have

1338
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: a passion for videography and then like making this stuff.

1339
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: Um and I also like talking to the camera. So

1340
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to open

1341
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: the doors for people to see like all the components

1342
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: of like what I do and if you have an

1343
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: interest in that. With that being said, each one of

1344
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: the vlogs I try my best to have value attached

1345
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: to it or a lesson or something, or maybe it's dramatic.

1346
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm talking about what what somebody did? Uh? So anyway, Yeah,

1347
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: that that's kind of it. And what's funny is like

1348
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: I guess once you build recognition somewhere, like like I

1349
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: did on Price Plow, it's weird to see people like requesting,

1350
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: like we want to see, like what you do with

1351
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: the kids, and we want to see what you do,

1352
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, what you're doing. It's like all right, like okay,

1353
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: like it's interesting that people want to see that, but cool. Yeah,

1354
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: I like that he did that recent one going after

1355
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: that stolen Valor guy who's who's a name in the

1356
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: fitness YouTube, you know world jameson Blaha and him suggesting

1357
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: the use of deadly force if someone tucks with you

1358
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: at the gym. Yeah, you know, and I've I had

1359
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: some flag you know, there are some people that you know, Yeah, yeah,

1360
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: if somebody pushes you in the gym, you need to

1361
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: pull out a weapon on him. I'm going to stand

1362
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 1: firm on like, I don't think that's the best course

1363
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: of action. But okay, that whole thing is crazy. So

1364
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Speaker 1: I I followed that whole saga. Yeah, this guy saying

1365
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: what did he say that there was former c I

1366
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: A or a former dude. There are some great videos

1367
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know what the channels are, but

1368
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Speaker 1: there are some people that have like got into this

1369
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: dude's life. And he was exactly I know, he said

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Speaker 1: he was at the you know, he trained at the

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Speaker 1: farm in Langley and yeah, so I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he was ever completely clear, but he basically suggested. I

1373
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: think he was pretty direct about saying he was a

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Speaker 1: mercenary of some guys. That's it. He did say that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't military, but I don't know. I don't know

1376
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: if his government tied. But he also was like writing

1377
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: for these crazy blogs and saying he was some reptile

1378
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: overlord and like like he just I don't know. The

1379
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: guy is just out there, and uh, you gotta respect

1380
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: it for the entertainment value. What concerns me is that

1381
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Speaker 1: there are a group of people that take this guy seriously.

1382
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: That's my problem, you know. But but okay, do you

1383
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: think there might be some serious like mental disability there

1384
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: or something, because I like, when I do watch some

1385
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: of these Stolen Valor videos, I people probably been at

1386
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: me for saying it, but I almost feel bad for

1387
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: these guys because some of them you can tell are

1388
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: just not right in the head. They're not There's some

1389
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: that that are trying to like pick up women saying

1390
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Speaker 1: I was a former Navy seal. Those guys are scumbags.

1391
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: But some of these guys you see at them all,

1392
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: I I genuinely think there's a there's a bigger mental

1393
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: issue there that needs to be taken care of. Absolutely,

1394
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's Jason Blaja's thing, But I

1395
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: do want to comment on something you just said because

1396
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: this is something that I know g would have no

1397
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: problem with me saying about, you know, regarding Zero Bunker

1398
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: and like kind of what we represent. And there is

1399
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Speaker 1: a level of like, yes, like you said, there's some

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01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: stolen valor of folks that I deserve to be called out.

1401
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're a veteran douche bag that

1402
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: calls out the homeless guy, that's fucking clearly crazy and

1403
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: you make it a public display, that's not cool. Like

1404
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if somebody is like messed up

1405
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: in the head, they're messed up in the head, Like

1406
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: you don't need to go shame them about how they're

1407
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: wearing fucking cammies and they don't need to be or whatever,

1408
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: like you know, And again I realized it's a hard stand.

1409
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: Some people are gonna hate that. But like I think,

1410
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: sometimes we're just so over the top about some of

1411
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: this stuff. Um, it's not taking away from your fucking

1412
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: valor for fox sake, man, we respect that. Anybody that

1413
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: has the same brain understands that. Yeah, And I think

1414
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: a lot of it just has to do with the

1415
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: clickbait thing. A lot of people love watching those videos.

1416
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: Jack has talked about it on the show before. I'll

1417
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: always remember him saying this on the show, and it

1418
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: was like years ago he said it. It was a

1419
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: very passionate rant that he went on where he said,

1420
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Speaker 1: this is what you guys want to read, This is

1421
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Speaker 1: what you guys want to see. He's like, I know,

1422
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: for a fact, I could write a highly research piece

1423
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: on what's going on with China and you know, uh,

1424
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: manipulation of the currency, and have all these sources cited,

1425
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: and if I write another piece about some idiot at

1426
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: them all he dressed as an army ranger, He's like,

1427
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: that will get more hits. So don't tell me this

1428
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: is what you want to read you guys the ones

1429
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: using on it. Yeah, it's it's really tough. Like the consumer.

1430
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: I think a consumer sometimes is very in the dark

1431
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: with the reality of his like you you know, people,

1432
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: the reason that the media is doing what the media

1433
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: is doing is because you keep clicking on it, you

1434
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: keep absorbing it. And so where we live in this

1435
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: world of extremism and and I look, I recognize this

1436
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Speaker 1: with the vlog. It's so tough to balance like that. This.

1437
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: I want this eventually to be a lifestyle in a

1438
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: business for me, but I also don't. I don't want

1439
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: to be the guy that's caught up in just the

1440
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: bullshit all the time. Like I hate that on Price Blow,

1441
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: some of the most popular videos were controversial, uh, and

1442
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: it got us some of the most recognition and attention.

1443
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: With that being said, I'm thankful that we got the subscribers,

1444
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: but I hate that we had to get it that way. Um,

1445
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 1: And so I think I struggle with that sometimes. But yeah,

1446
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: am I gonna clickbait? Fuck? Yeah, because you're gonna click

1447
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: on it, And like that's gonna help me to get

1448
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: closer to providing for my family and something that I'm

1449
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: passionate about. So it is what it is. Yeah, I

1450
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: understand that is as long as you know you're putting

1451
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: out content out there that you feel good about. Um,

1452
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: I really, I genuinely actually don't feel although we've been

1453
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: accused of it, that software does clickbait stuff. I mean,

1454
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: we've gotten a lot of flak for content we've put

1455
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: out there in the past, and if you've been a

1456
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: subscriber to us on you know the YouTube in particular,

1457
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: you know exactly what I'm talking about. But it was

1458
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: never done as a clickbait thing. And I've had I've

1459
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: had private conversations with Jack about it, and it was

1460
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: all about, like, we're going to put out the news,

1461
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: whether it's controversial or not, whether it's puts the military

1462
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Speaker 1: in a positive light or not, whether it's um, we've

1463
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: talked about it before, guys getting molested at the v A.

1464
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that. It doesn't put the

1465
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: military in a positive light, but it needs to be

1466
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: talked about. It's so it's so cool that you mentioned

1467
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: that because, um, that controversial video that you're talking about.

1468
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: So that's something that that came up in conversation talking

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01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: with Zero Foxtrot and uh, you know, I it was.

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01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: It was one of those things that it's like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know whether or not to like mention it or whatever,

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01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: but like I am, I was genuinely curious, Um, what

1473
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: what really happened with that? I mean, obviously you guys

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01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of negative flak apoard. With that being said,

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Speaker 1: it was viral and uh so, I don't know, I

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: guess but it but it was put out with good

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01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: intentions as I can't entirely speak to it because it

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01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: was I had absolutely nothing to do with that. However,

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, Jack's talked about it on a podcast. Actually,

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: if you listen to the podcast with Phil Lavanti during

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01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: the intro, he talks about it very in depth, and

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01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: I'd rather have you know, his word out there about

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01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: it than mine. Um, But I think it was just

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01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: the fact that he's very passionate about covering anything that

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01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: he feels as newsworthy. And not to mention, that's not

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01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,919
Speaker 1: the first time we've put out like Helmett cam footage

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: like that before. Uh, it just so happens that that one.

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, there was a lot of response to, but

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: there were also you know, listen back to that episode

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: because they were also like gold Star fathers who wrote

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: to Jack that were like, you know what, this isn't pretty.

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't like looking at this, but it needs to

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01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: be shown. Yeah, And that's kind of what I was

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01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 1: gonna say, is like, you know, I don't know. It's

1495
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: without getting into what what my feelings are about it

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01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Like the truth is that sometimes um,

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: maybe doing the right thing or the thing that that

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: you think you know is towards your truth is it's

1499
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna be painful and it's gonna like we've said stuff

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01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: on price Plow that was legitimate, it was objective, it

1501
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: was this is not what you like b C as

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01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: we took a strong stance. I'm like, look, it is

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01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: what it is. We're looking at the data, we're giving

1504
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: you the news. You think that's what Mark Loadliner with

1505
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: MTS wants to hear. You think that's what like these

1506
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: guys are selling the funkload of b C A S right.

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01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: And so sometimes it's it's difficult because like we have

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01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: to go through those like the conflict, you know, the

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01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: people that are going to be uh, you know, back

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01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: on us, you know, but but you've got to stand

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01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: up for what you believe in or what you think

1512
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: is is what needs to be out there. So that

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01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: was an interesting controversy by the way. So actually I'm

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: just wondering, like from your standpoint, is so many research.

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01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: It's like our r b C A is like complete

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 1: snake oil. Is its completely ineffective? No? No, no, so

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01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: so and this is this is hard waters to tread through,

1518
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: like because everybody wants When people come to me and

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01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: they ask like fitness device, submit advice, here's what they want.

1520
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: They want tell me what to do, it doesn't work

1521
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: that way, unfortunately, there's too much variables to consider. So

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01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: taking b C AS, if you say our b C

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: A S muscle building in isolation, the answer is no.

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01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: When they're paired with the other essential amino as is

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01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: the answer is yes. Now that's muscle building. But sometimes

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01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: people forget there's all kinds of of mechanisms within metabolism.

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: B C A S enter the crib cycle as a

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01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: setal co a and they actually helped to produce a

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01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: TP similar to what glucose or sugar is going to do.

1530
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: So what that means is for an endurance athlete, taking

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01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: b C A S is a way to give you

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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 1: an acute amount of energy and there might be protein

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01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: sparing effect attached to that. Now that doesn't mean that

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01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: it's building protein, but it might there might be some

1535
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: sparing to it. Um, So I think that in certain

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01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: scenarios right endurance athletes, I think, um, if you are

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01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: um fasting for long, long periods of time, there might

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01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: be some value there. With that being said, my here's

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01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: my whole issue is that at what point did we

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01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,879
Speaker 1: say that an incomplete protein is better than a complete protein?

1541
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: And what's the I'm not saying, like, I'm not saying

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: that b C A is are worthless. But if gon't

1543
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: to spend my forty on something, go ahead and give

1544
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: me the whole fucking package, Like I don't you know

1545
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like do I need half of it?

1546
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: So you know that that's my stance on it. Another

1547
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: interesting thing that you know, I can put out there.

1548
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if if price fall is actually reported

1549
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 1: on this or not, but but one of the things,

1550
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: um that we were kind of understanding in the back

1551
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: and was that b C A S and E S

1552
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: and like some of these products that are listening as

1553
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: zero calories are not. And that's something that people have

1554
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 1: to consider. Like, so if we know that like a

1555
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: sugar molecule, like a glucose, it's it's one molecule. Okay,

1556
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: then you could have like a die saccharide, which would

1557
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: be like table sugar sucrose, So it's it's a it's

1558
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: a glucose and a fruit toase attached to one another.

1559
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: Then it gets even more complex with like fiber, and

1560
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: you have ten sugar molecules. But what's interesting is across

1561
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: the board, a gram is a gram and those calories

1562
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: mean they're four calories. So one gram of carbohydrate, whether

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: it's simple or complex, it's four calories. Or that's what

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01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: we acknowledge. How protein is the same, but the FDA

1565
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 1: allows these loopholes to list it as zero for some reason.

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01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: So when you take seven grams of b C as

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: you're taking, you need to account that for seven grams

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: of calories from protein. Does that make sense? Yeah, anyway,

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: I've heard off, Yeah, I've heard it. Also, I've also

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01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: heard them say on you know, various videos on YouTube

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: that part of the reason E b C A s

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01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: worth the thing for people who work out over eas

1573
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: was that they weren't able to be flavored the way

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: they are now that's true. No, that is absolutely true.

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01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: So so some some essential amino acids like MATTHEO I

1576
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: and I, they're they're very, very difficult to flavor. So

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of consumers don't understand

1578
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: that there's a balancing act that has to go on

1579
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: within supplement companies. I mean they're constantly trying to formulate

1580
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: and struggle with some of these things, like like tia crene. Tacrene.

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01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,520
Speaker 1: I think it's an incredible ingredient, um it is incredibly

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01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: hard to flavor. And so like the consumer wants, I

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01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: want this much tia crene in my powder, but I

1584
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: also want to taste like a damn fruit roll up.

1585
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, you know, there's kind of given

1586
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: takes sometimes and so and there's adaptations now interestingly enough,

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01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: and I can't I'm not gonna speak for prime you,

1588
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: but I have no idea what the f they do

1589
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 1: necessarily with the flavor systems. But somehow A MAX tastes

1590
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,919
Speaker 1: just as good, if not better, than most bc A products.

1591
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: So I think that the industry is starting to go.

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01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: You know, there was a point where protein bars we

1593
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: drink like or like the power bars and ship like

1594
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: these just gross ass like you know, rubber things, but

1595
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: now they basically are candy bars, and there are some

1596
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: some of the guys at the top level are just

1597
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: crushing it. So that one of the things that I

1598
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: look at with supplements, and I've said this to to

1599
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: Prime Evil and others, there's no excuse now to not

1600
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: have good tasting ship like that. That's just the truth

1601
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: of it, you know what I mean. Like, like at

1602
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: this point there's been so much advancement and so much

1603
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: people that are doing stuff that the tone is set.

1604
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 1: If you have something to taste bad, you're just you're

1605
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: just in the dust. Yeah, makes sense, dude. I love

1606
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: that we've talked about so much different stuff from fitness

1607
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: to your you know, experience in the Marines. Maybe if

1608
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: we have you back, we could have some combat stories

1609
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: and stuff like that that we didn't get them too. Yeah.

1610
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: I would definitely be happy to man. Yeah, So you know,

1611
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: it's one of those things, man, Like I just want

1612
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: to flow with it. But like, if there's ever like

1613
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: something that you want specifically or anything like, I'm I'm

1614
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: happy to talk my head off about whatever you guys

1615
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: are interested in. Absolutely, man, we'll have you back if

1616
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: you and if you're ever in New York and Judio

1617
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: would be awesome. I've never been in New York. I'd

1618
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: like to. I'd like to go. Uh there's something I'm

1619
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: interested in. Uh So, who knows, maybe maybe Actually I

1620
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: was supposed to be in New York. Ut was it

1621
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: last week or maybe this week? So there's a company,

1622
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: Natural Bodies that's having a huge block party out there,

1623
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: and Steve Calbary Breezy was actually he was trying to

1624
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: get me out there and just things just didn't work

1625
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: out the way we had hoped, so I didn't get

1626
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 1: to make it. But yeah, it was gonna be my

1627
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: first trip to New York. Yeah, we'll let me know.

1628
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: I would get you in here with Jack and myself.

1629
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: Uh So the website c J Woodriff dot m e

1630
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 1: um check out zero Bunker which is on YouTube as

1631
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: well as Apple podcasts and all that, right and and SoundCloud.

1632
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, if you go to zero bunker dot com.

1633
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: Uh then they have like all the links listed you

1634
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: know there, so you can do that or you just

1635
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: type in zero Bunker or zero Foxtrot on YouTube or wherever. Yeah,

1636
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: it's iTunes, sprinker all the all the ship. I think

1637
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: the one that we had a hard time was Spotify.

1638
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you can help me with that. We're not on

1639
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: Spotify either right now, dude, I don't know. I think

1640
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: we we did the submission, but I don't think we

1641
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: have heard. But I don't know what. I think Spotify

1642
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: is like really selective about what they put up for

1643
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: some reason. But yeah, we have the same We're not

1644
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: on Spotify currently, We're on Google Play all that, um,

1645
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: anything else that you're promoting. Before we get out of

1646
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: here and wrap this up myself or now, the biggest

1647
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: thing I would say so on the CJ would have

1648
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: got me website first of all, Like I'm probably gonna

1649
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: get off here and like go like work on it

1650
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: a little bit. Honestly, I've done no maintenance on it,

1651
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: and so like I need to make sure how the

1652
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: links are legit. But the best way, honestly, if you

1653
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,600
Speaker 1: guys are interested in anything that I'm doing, just go

1654
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 1: to my personal YouTube channel. Just type in CJ wouldroff

1655
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: on there and and follow my my personal channel because

1656
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: within those logs and all that stuff, I'm talking about

1657
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: all the things that I'm doing. So it's the best

1658
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: way to kind of get connected, I think, to the

1659
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: whole picture. And also we're trying to build up the

1660
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: prime Eval YouTube channel as well, so Primeval Labs or

1661
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: primeval labs dot com if you want to look at

1662
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: their supplements. So anyway, nice man. Yeah, I hit you

1663
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: up on Instagram, so CJ is very accessible on their um.

1664
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna wrap this show up by myself,

1665
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, without Jack here, and talk about some of

1666
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: the rebranding stuff happening and all that. But I appreciate

1667
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: you coming on, man, and let's definitely do this again soon.

1668
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: All right, man, thanks for having me. Cool absolutely, man,

1669
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 1: talk to you soon, uh and stay in touch. Cool.

1670
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: All right, We'll wrapping this up with you, guys. I

1671
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. Hopefully, um, you guys are right

1672
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: with me switching it up a little while Jack's here.

1673
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't worry. We're still covering special operations news and

1674
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: all that, which I actually will get right into with you. Um.

1675
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 1: But first, of course, there's only one club out there

1676
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: with gear handpicked by special operations and military veterans from

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01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: several different branches and marines as well, not just special

1678
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: ops guys. Uh, And that of course is Great Club.

1679
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that future collaboration we're doing with

1680
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: NFW watches. We're gonna do an exclusive Great Club watch

1681
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,360
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Speaker 1: as I said, we're always going to be talking about

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Speaker 1: So that's why I didn't get to get into any

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Speaker 1: he got the name. Um, so yeah, just doing different

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Speaker 1: For a while actually have just been covering special operations

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Speaker 1: military news. We're going to continue to cover that but

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Speaker 1: we also cover you know, for example, old man fitness

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Speaker 1: that's all gonna be a part of the site. As

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Speaker 1: with Brandon, this is going to continue to be called

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Speaker 1: continue to call it soft Rep Radio. We have a

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Speaker 1: so why change that. But it's Hurricane Media is of

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Speaker 1: But as far as I know, this is going to

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Speaker 1: continue to be called soft Rep Radio once again. I

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Speaker 1: hope you guys have enjoyed these different shows that we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying the video that we've been doing. UM,

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Speaker 1: stepping up our game a little bit. This works better

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Speaker 1: for me than doing the live stream. UM. It just

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Speaker 1: makes more sense and people seem to be digging it.

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Speaker 1: And if you are, just keep shooting over the feedback

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Speaker 1: or send us I should say, any voice memos or

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Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Greatly appreciate, appreciate c J. Woodruff

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Speaker 1: coming on with me. I was a fan of his work,

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Speaker 1: so that's why I reached out to him, and it

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Speaker 1: With that, I'm out. There will be a new episode

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Speaker 1: us doing what we're doing. I love coming in here

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Speaker 1: and interviewing guys like c J. It's a real honor

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