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Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel, and gentlemen, a lot to talk
Speaker 1: about today. We're gonna be discussing some combine stuff. Scott
Speaker 1: Bogman has been watching the Underwear Olympics since Thursday. He
Speaker 1: is very excited to bring his winners and losers list here.
Speaker 1: Welsh is very excited for the show to be over
Speaker 1: because he has small children that have gotten him sick again.
Speaker 1: Because when you have kids, this is what they do.
Speaker 1: They bring everything home with them from school, including homework
Speaker 1: and illnesses. But we've also got a little free agent discussion.
Speaker 1: Last week we play Wheel of Quarterbacks. If you miss that,
Speaker 1: you could watch it on her YouTube channel. So today
Speaker 1: little wide receiver predictions, a little running back praditions, some
Speaker 1: free agents where they might land. Free agency looming in
Speaker 1: the weeks ahead here for the NFL. But gentlemen, before
Speaker 1: we go any further, we got to talk about Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 1: We had some live action news breaking on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I was just about to go into my daughter's high
Speaker 1: school play. She's working back stage there, working very hard,
Speaker 1: and I see on my phone boom breaking news Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel traded for a fifth round pick to the Commanders
Speaker 1: and Deebo bringing the heat. Welsh, I'm gonna start with
Speaker 1: mister forty nine or here, and then we'll get you
Speaker 1: some day quill and send you to bed. I want
Speaker 1: to know this fifth round selection, Deebo gone. Deebo's comments,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to play with a real quarterback now, oh
Speaker 1: my god, shots fired, Welsh.
Speaker 2: Good riddance, Good riddans. We went a steal.
Speaker 3: We got for a fifth round pick for such a
Speaker 3: dirt bag now, I mean they got you know what
Speaker 3: here so you see it is right here, that's Debo. Whoops,
Speaker 3: autograph him that what's up on my thing?
Speaker 1: Whoop?
Speaker 2: Now it's on the floor. Just how I think about Debo.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's like the classic just dirt bag guy,
Speaker 3: just tear everybody down the whole time.
Speaker 2: Play with a real quarterback.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's an amazing situation for Jaydon Daniels
Speaker 3: to have another playmaker. It's a great buye by them
Speaker 3: for outside of all my pissiness about all of it,
Speaker 3: but I just these guys that tear everything down on
Speaker 3: their way out. I mean, leave that to the Steelers
Speaker 3: wide receivers, not to the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: I'm so utterly sick of these guys that do that.
Speaker 3: And you know what, Brandon and Ayuk could probably be
Speaker 3: right behind it. Brandayuk's probably pissed because he wanted to
Speaker 3: be with Jaydeon Daniels.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think Debo's going to live up to He'll
Speaker 3: live up to fifth round acquisition return, but I just
Speaker 3: don't know he's going to be the savior to the
Speaker 3: Guardian or anything like that.
Speaker 1: First, I love that you uh think are while she's
Speaker 1: still in baseball mode.
Speaker 3: Let's see, what's the name I can't say changed the
Speaker 3: logos and names that I'm not allowed to say it anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's open that up. Here's a question for you.
Speaker 1: I love how also you threw shade at Bogman before
Speaker 1: the show even started there. Basically with the Steelers.
Speaker 2: A Steeler is that this is a Steeler wide receiver.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not wrong, he's you.
Speaker 1: Know, he's not wrong. But I mean, I'm not the
Speaker 1: biggest debo guy I fantasy circles. I was staying away
Speaker 1: from him last year. I was glad that I did,
Speaker 1: but now I'm kind of intrigued because he is going
Speaker 1: to be kind of a Swiss Army knife offensive weapon.
Speaker 1: This was a team that has and still has a
Speaker 1: lot of caps face left to spend. H you have
Speaker 1: your Terry McLaurin locked in there, you have Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 1: So Deebo to me looks like not only could he
Speaker 1: be looking at a lot of volume, but also in
Speaker 1: an offense that you know, it's pretty explosive with Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 1: This is kind of, I don't know, reigniting my curiosity
Speaker 1: for Deebo. Samuel Boggs. Are you where I am?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be too dangerous here, you know,
Speaker 1: because I feel like sometimes a guy gets a new spot,
Speaker 1: we all get really excited, and I oftentimes were let down.
Speaker 1: But man, this feels like a good landing spot for Debo.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna be fat again? That's my question I have.
Speaker 4: I'm not getting paid to be in shape, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? So yes, I'm a total hypocrite. But
Speaker 4: is Debo going to be fat again? That is my
Speaker 4: question because he was fat all year last year it
Speaker 4: seemed like and out of condition and also banged up,
Speaker 4: so you know, conditioning number one. So hopefully being on
Speaker 4: a new team will inspire him to do that. That
Speaker 4: would be great, and staying healthy is huge for him.
Speaker 4: And remember he's had a lot of running back snaps
Speaker 4: in his career, and this is why running backs don't
Speaker 4: last in the NFL. They take more hits than anybody else.
Speaker 4: And he's still a you know, run after contact type
Speaker 4: of a guy. You get the ball to him in space,
Speaker 4: you let him break some tackles, you let him go.
Speaker 4: So is that wearing on him? I think the Niners,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever, the fifth round pick doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 4: It was getting the twenty million off the books, and
Speaker 4: I think they saved seventeen and a half by doing that.
Speaker 4: So that's what he's traded for such a low pick
Speaker 4: because they gave him the extension that he cried about
Speaker 4: and wind about, and then he cried and wind his
Speaker 4: way out of town. So he is a huge cry baby.
Speaker 4: There's no debating that at this point, so I hope
Speaker 4: it works. But if I'm Washington, I'm not stopping adding blaymaking.
Speaker 3: Number three, by the way, should also be he should
Speaker 3: not podcast.
Speaker 2: He should shut up like that.
Speaker 3: The idea that you're podcasting when you have zero zero
Speaker 3: accountability is one of the craziest things on the planet.
Speaker 3: Like that guy's going out and being like, oh with
Speaker 3: a real quarterback, Like, dude, you dropped everything, that's all
Speaker 3: you did. You were the best ball dropper in the NFL,
Speaker 3: and you couldn't do anything, and.
Speaker 4: Then had the audacity go and stick his fat finger
Speaker 4: and the kicker and long snappers face.
Speaker 2: Do your job, Do your job, dude, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: I mean he's a villain.
Speaker 1: Stick my finger in Welsh's face all the time, and
Speaker 1: yell want him to do his job.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, hey, buddy, knock.
Speaker 1: It off, all right, So let's flip the scirpow does
Speaker 1: it from a ladder? That's right? Hey, you you need
Speaker 1: to do Why didn't you turn that email I sent
Speaker 1: you on Thursday? Oh? Question for you guys. So who's
Speaker 1: the big winner in San Francisco down Welsh? Uh? So
Speaker 1: we got vacated targets? Is it Ricky Piersol, is it
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk? Is it other?
Speaker 2: The guy that gets the biggest like boost to where
Speaker 2: they were?
Speaker 3: I think Ricky is the one, but I would say
Speaker 3: Juan Jennings is the over arching.
Speaker 2: He is the number one on this team.
Speaker 3: Like Brandon Nyuk, probably gonna miss some time even if
Speaker 3: he's not traded. I don't know what the exact role
Speaker 3: he comes back into, but we've seen Juwan Jennings play
Speaker 3: both the debo and the Brandon Ayuk role. I think
Speaker 3: he built that level of trust with that crappy quarterback
Speaker 3: that Deebo talked about. Ricky Piersoll is going to make
Speaker 3: some big play. So I think from where he was
Speaker 3: to what his value is now, is going to like
Speaker 3: perceivably be the guy. But I think Juwan Jennings, Like,
Speaker 3: if somehow Ricky Pearsall is going ahead of Juwan Jennings,
Speaker 3: I think that will be a mistake. I think Juwan
Speaker 3: Jennings is going to put up a big season next year.
Speaker 1: Boggs, you agree, Is Jennings the man? Now that Deebo
Speaker 1: is gone and Ayuk is still on the shelf.
Speaker 4: I think there's just more runway for us to see
Speaker 4: the ceiling of Ricky Piersoll. That is what I'm looking
Speaker 4: forward to the most. But Welsh is absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, Ayuk was banged up last year, Kittle got
Speaker 4: banged up a little bit and played through injury last year,
Speaker 4: and who really was shining in that spot? It was
Speaker 4: Juwan Jennings. So Juwan Jennings has really solidified himself as
Speaker 4: a big part of this offense, especially with we have
Speaker 4: no idea what's going on with CMC or really the
Speaker 4: running back situation for San Francisco right now. So yeah, man,
Speaker 4: I think that Pearsall's ceiling is you know, we're so
Speaker 4: much closer to seeing it. I was like, why are
Speaker 4: they drafting this guy? They have value, They just like Deebo.
Speaker 4: They have kid or they have CMC like he's going
Speaker 4: to be buried for a couple of years and because
Speaker 4: of injuries and trades and all of this stuff that
Speaker 4: they had, now all of a sudden, the cream rises
Speaker 4: to the top, and I think pearsall's a.
Speaker 3: Quick question before we move on to it. Do either
Speaker 3: of you believe or think Brandon Ayuk will be traded?
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's trading for a guy coming off
Speaker 4: an injury like that with that much money, So.
Speaker 1: Right out of my mouth, I agree, Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be tough. I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be tough for them.
Speaker 3: But Ayuk is as big as of a cry baby
Speaker 3: as Debo, and I think, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 3: know that they keep going with that, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: I like sick Welsh. Sick Welsh has got zero. He
Speaker 1: gives zero.
Speaker 4: F man, this would be regular well talking about the Niners,
Speaker 4: Joe Yea.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a little bit of like cough
Speaker 1: medicine in here or something like that that's made him
Speaker 1: an extra a little bit just edgy today and I
Speaker 1: like it, man, I like this, this is my favorite Welsh.
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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, let's go some big names, some wide receivers,
Speaker 1: some running backs. They're gonna impact fantasy maybe on their
Speaker 1: way to different teams. We're gonna do some predictions here
Speaker 1: and discuss where some of those names might land. Let's
Speaker 1: start with T. Higgins, who seems like the crown jewel.
Speaker 1: A commander is seemingly out of that business right now.
Speaker 1: Commanders are a team looking for a wide receiver. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's gonna putting these wide receivers
Speaker 1: on the commanders out of the debos there. My guess
Speaker 1: is not. But I'll start here with T. Higgins, And
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be boring because I think
Speaker 1: it feels like the worm is turning in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 1: it feels like the Bengals want to bring T Higgins home.
Speaker 1: The cap is expanding a little bit. It seems like
Speaker 1: everybody wants to work it out and play nice. The
Speaker 1: Bengals are very encouraged by the end of the season.
Speaker 1: They almost almost that door their way into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And T Higgins makes Joe Burrow better and makes Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase better. I think he stays in Cincinnati. Cough medicine Welsh,
Speaker 1: what say you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: Aren't we also in a space like when is the
Speaker 3: franchise deadline?
Speaker 1: M good question. I will look at that. You make
Speaker 1: your prediction. I'll tell you when the franchise deadline is well.
Speaker 3: Because I think haven't they pretty much said like they're
Speaker 3: gonna franchise him and what wasn't I yet, No.
Speaker 2: I know, but they were going but it wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Like March fourth at four pm.
Speaker 2: That's tomorrow.
Speaker 3: But wasn't also there gonna be something like Tiggan's mom
Speaker 3: was like tweeting out that am I confusing players? But
Speaker 3: like you know, like snakes like that, They're gonna do
Speaker 3: this again like this, it feels like the team is
Speaker 3: gonna do some type of a franchise lockdown of T Higgins.
Speaker 4: They want him to stay franchise him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I walk out a deal.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I mean, some of these things
Speaker 1: can fall apart at the last minute, sure, and agents
Speaker 1: can go look for more money. So Boggs, you also
Speaker 1: thinking that it's all just boring in Cincinnati, is indeed
Speaker 1: where this is trending.
Speaker 4: I mean, the whole point of the franchise tag is
Speaker 4: to be able to tag this guy while you work
Speaker 4: out a long term deal. They talked about it all
Speaker 4: weekend during the combine, and that's exactly what the Bengal's
Speaker 4: gonna end up doing here. I think they're trying to
Speaker 4: work it out first so they don't have to use
Speaker 4: this franchise tag because it's so much money for a
Speaker 4: guy like t Higgins. But you know, the offense is
Speaker 4: what makes his team run. They had literally no defense
Speaker 4: last year and they still almost made the playoffs. So
Speaker 4: if you can run that back with an improved defense,
Speaker 4: you have a shot at not only winning this division,
Speaker 4: but making a deep run. Remember, you know the years
Speaker 4: that Joe Burrow has been healthy, was this year where
Speaker 4: he had MVP numbers and they didn't make the playoffs,
Speaker 4: Super Bowl AFC Championship. Those are the you know, the
Speaker 4: healthy Joe Burrow years, so you want to keep that
Speaker 4: window alive. So I think they'll be able to figure
Speaker 4: something out. But if it's not done by tomorrow, he
Speaker 4: will get franchise in my vie.
Speaker 1: All right, So Chris Godwin next on our list here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Las Vegas. I think they could use
Speaker 1: somebody else there in that wide receiver pool. We'll see
Speaker 1: what the quarterbacks the tradition is for the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1: As we get closer, Bobin, let's start with you with
Speaker 1: this one, Chris god Where do you think he ends
Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough because he's coming off that bad injury.
Speaker 4: He's going to still be recovering up until camp and
Speaker 4: may not be ready to go when camp comes around.
Speaker 4: We'll see where that lies. But I think, you know,
Speaker 4: on a prove it deal, Tampa would make a lot
Speaker 4: of sense for him to go back there. But I
Speaker 4: think they like Jayla McMillan, so then they're both kind
Speaker 4: of slot guys and he should be cheap on kind
Speaker 4: of a prove it deal. Let's send him to the Rams.
Speaker 4: They're getting rid of Cooper Cup so they need a
Speaker 4: slot guy. I think he could come in and drop
Speaker 4: in there, and he's a veteran. I think Stafford could
Speaker 4: get the ball to him. I think it's a chance
Speaker 4: for him to win as well as prove himself. And
Speaker 4: the Rams do have a decent amount of cap space still,
Speaker 4: especially if they trade Cooper Cup. So I think that
Speaker 4: would be a good landing spot for him. Should they
Speaker 4: trade Cup.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm guessing Vegas. Bogman, says Rams Welsh. Where
Speaker 1: do you think Chris Godwin lands in twenty five?
Speaker 3: I think Bog's kind of laid it out. I think
Speaker 3: on a prove it deal, you go back. I think
Speaker 3: the allure of Baker selling them back they're still in
Speaker 3: that kind of window. McMillan also worked. When they've got
Speaker 3: you know, both guys in there. I think they want
Speaker 3: to run three wide receiver sets. I think it makes.
Speaker 2: All the sense in the world.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to go I mean, maybe
Speaker 3: he will, but I'm not sure you're going to get
Speaker 3: some huge, massive contract where if he can go back
Speaker 3: play with his team his guys one more run sign
Speaker 3: a one year go back out into free agency the
Speaker 3: next year after having that healthy season. I think that
Speaker 3: might be more the play than sign it some discounted
Speaker 3: I'm injured rate, but I think everybody would want him,
Speaker 3: so I think that's the tough part is everybody would
Speaker 3: want him in their wide receiver corps. Could be most
Speaker 3: team's number ones. But I think he's gonna return to
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: Next on our list Amari Cooper. I think Chargers cheap deal.
Speaker 1: Maybe they kind of figure things out one year, see
Speaker 1: if they can continue to help justin Herbert Quentin Johnson's
Speaker 1: not the answer there. I don't know what Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: has left in the tank, but considering some of the
Speaker 1: other landing spots that could be around, I think this
Speaker 1: one might make sense. Welsh, let's start with you, Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: where you think he lands this season.
Speaker 3: I struggle with this one because like he wasn't good,
Speaker 3: Like he wasn't used, he wasn't good. I think there
Speaker 3: are rumors of and I kind of tapered away from this.
Speaker 2: I will tell you this.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to just have every single guy returning
Speaker 3: to their original team. I think there's some theoretical interest
Speaker 3: in maybe the Bills wanting him to come back, and
Speaker 3: maybe unleashing him this season. I'm gonna just I went
Speaker 3: with the Bears. You're gonna lose Keenan Allen this. I
Speaker 3: think they want to run those three wide receiver sets
Speaker 3: and I you know, maybe they're gonna go lower in there,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna I just threw him on.
Speaker 2: The Bears.
Speaker 3: Was kind of jumped out to me as a team
Speaker 3: that might be aggressive and trying to get a new
Speaker 3: third wide receiver. But the more I do think about it,
Speaker 3: the Bills might be the better answer. But that is
Speaker 3: literally me just giving all these receivers back to their home.
Speaker 2: But I think he might be the let me look
Speaker 2: at this list, I think he's.
Speaker 3: That well now, the last guy's the toughest. But like,
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's like a definitive destination for
Speaker 3: Amari Cooper because he's not that old version. I think
Speaker 3: you're just like, who would be a really good third
Speaker 3: wide receiver or two if we need it. That's how
Speaker 3: teams are going to approach him. So I think there's
Speaker 3: like a kajillion teams that could sign him.
Speaker 1: I would say most of the free agent wide receivers
Speaker 1: that got dealt were disappointing in twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 1: we all had high expectations, right, Hopkins and Cooper's going
Speaker 1: and Deontay Jonathan's go. All these guys, Oh, look they're
Speaker 1: going to better teams. Well, it didn't really work out
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, Bogs. Amari Cooper might be a tough
Speaker 1: spot to find one for him, But do you have
Speaker 1: one in mind?
Speaker 4: I got Houston, and it's because Diggs is coming off
Speaker 4: this ACL injury and he's a freed and I don't
Speaker 4: know if they're bringing him back or not. I don't
Speaker 4: know if he like doubt it's a possibility. But after
Speaker 4: that Tank Dell is going to miss this entire season
Speaker 4: as well well. So we saw they had difficulty moving
Speaker 4: the ball a little bit without these wide receivers. So
Speaker 4: I think adding a veteran I think the next I
Speaker 4: think the next game we play should be, is he washed?
Speaker 4: Joe and Amari Cooper would fit right perfectly into that game.
Speaker 4: Is he washed? Because he had all the opportunity in Buffalo,
Speaker 4: couldn't just make it work immediately. Now if he gets
Speaker 4: into Houston, he'll have all of training camp to jel
Speaker 4: with CJ. Stroud. They have Nico on the other side,
Speaker 4: they can draft a slot guy or keep Mechi. Maybe
Speaker 4: Mechi is improving enough to be that guy. But I
Speaker 4: think an outside presence for c J. Stroud would be
Speaker 4: nice if we don't think he's washed all right.
Speaker 1: Next guy on our list is Keenan Allen, and b
Speaker 1: Baller's got a question about him, so and if you've
Speaker 1: got questions, we've got answers. Drop him here in the
Speaker 1: chat over on Twitch where we are live right now.
Speaker 1: Does Keenan Allen get interesting to keep in Dynasty? He
Speaker 1: goes to the Rams. He seemed to still have some
Speaker 1: juice left last year. This is interesting because I have
Speaker 1: Keenan Awen in the Dynasty League and I was trying
Speaker 1: to load him last year when he went to a
Speaker 1: spot with a young quarterback with the Chicago Bears, because
Speaker 1: I was really kind of hesitant about it, and it
Speaker 1: ended up working out and I still got it, and
Speaker 1: I'm kind of just holding on to see where he
Speaker 1: lands next. If he lands with the Rams, I'm okay
Speaker 1: with it. My landing spot though, was New England. I
Speaker 1: think it was a pretty solid job that he did
Speaker 1: last year with Caleb Williams. I think Drake may having
Speaker 1: a guy like Keenan Allen would be fantastic. I think
Speaker 1: if they draft a second round wide receiver who has
Speaker 1: some mobility that perhaps, you know, you could learn a
Speaker 1: lot from Keenan Allen and his years of experience in
Speaker 1: the NFL. So I'll put that to you, Bogs, because
Speaker 1: you're mister dynasty. What's his Are you waiting for his value?
Speaker 1: And is New England a good spot? The Rams a
Speaker 1: good spot? Where would you want to see him land?
Speaker 1: And what does that do for his dynasty value?
Speaker 4: I much rather see him Land with the Rams, and
Speaker 4: it's just because obviously the offense is much more potent
Speaker 4: and going to score a lot of touchdowns. We need
Speaker 4: a lot of improvements in New England. But New England
Speaker 4: can throw it ton of money at him. They have
Speaker 4: so much money in cap space. I think they're the
Speaker 4: only team over one hundred miles, so he could get,
Speaker 4: you know, a short deal for a ton of money
Speaker 4: because they have so much cap space. And I think
Speaker 4: if you're in New England and you have this young quarterback,
Speaker 4: you make your improvements on the on line first, but
Speaker 4: you have to get him some targets and they are desperate.
Speaker 4: So I just think that this might be a money
Speaker 4: thing where New England can throw him the most, get
Speaker 4: him on there and hopefully start to get some other
Speaker 4: free agents as well.
Speaker 1: I like him in New England because I feel like
Speaker 1: from a Dynasy Stanley.
Speaker 4: Will, he'd be in number one there. He'd be the
Speaker 4: number one there.
Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing. I mean he I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's a case to be made that because there
Speaker 1: was a lot of talent, you know, with DJ Moore
Speaker 1: and Romandoonze at certain times that you know that might
Speaker 1: have helped, you know, Keenan Allen in some situation.
Speaker 4: It just but it just depends on what he wants.
Speaker 4: Does he want to go and try to get a
Speaker 4: ring with Matt Stafford or does he want the money
Speaker 4: because the money is going to be in New England.
Speaker 4: The ring potential is going to be with the Rams
Speaker 4: or the Broncos or somebody like that.
Speaker 1: All Right, Welsh Is it for the love of money
Speaker 1: or for the love of glory for Keenan Allen?
Speaker 3: No, I think it's gonna be a little bit more
Speaker 3: of the love of money. I think I find it
Speaker 3: ironic and weird by the way, about Keenan going to
Speaker 3: La when it's like you're gonna get rid of Cooper
Speaker 3: Cup and bring him in, Like I guess maybe he
Speaker 3: was a little bit more fluid towards the end of
Speaker 3: the year, But the whole thing with Keenan Allen was like, oh, look,
Speaker 3: he's a super fat guy and he can't move and
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And then he kind of came to me too much
Speaker 1: fat shaming on the show today. I gotta say, I mean.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, bog and I we can
Speaker 2: We're allowed to do it.
Speaker 4: It's a hypocritical fat shaming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well no, but I'm more doing that was
Speaker 3: the narrative.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he was.
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, oh my god, he's two hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: five pounds or whatever it was, or like he can't
Speaker 3: move and he's fat. But it's like, why would they
Speaker 3: like go of Cooper Cup and bring in just like
Speaker 3: another similar type of slot receiver that I guess I
Speaker 3: get it, but I also just don't understand why they
Speaker 3: make that move. I'm gonna go with maybe an off
Speaker 3: based one, Bogman, you tell me, I'm gonna say the
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers part of your guys' problem was like Where
Speaker 3: were all your playmate Where were all the receivers and
Speaker 3: the playmakers? You would do really well beneficial to have
Speaker 3: a really great short yardage slot type of guy ten
Speaker 3: and out, because what's the what's the George Pickens play
Speaker 3: thirty long and hope he catches it with one finger
Speaker 3: and toes and then you know, doesn't do like a
Speaker 3: gun salute, so he gets a thing like that's that's
Speaker 3: the play with Kenny bit with with George Pickens the
Speaker 3: whole time. That offense would really bode well to have
Speaker 3: some some short inline guys that you can throw the
Speaker 3: ball to. And I think you know, uh, Tomlin would
Speaker 3: get the respect from Alan to want to go there.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the cap space looks like, but
Speaker 3: I think you just look at that wide receiver corps
Speaker 3: and it's just open for the taking for a guy
Speaker 3: like Keenan Allen to go.
Speaker 4: I I would love Keenan Allen to go to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 4: but I just think you look at the quarterback situation.
Speaker 4: We have no idea who it's going to be, and
Speaker 4: I think that would keep Keenan away from Pittsburgh. Might
Speaker 4: be that's the only thing. Yeah, So, but but I
Speaker 4: would love to have Keenan, so I hope that happens.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the next guy on our
Speaker 1: list here, and the final wide receiver we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about before a couple running backs, Deontay Johnson. Things
Speaker 1: did not go well for Deontay Johnson in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: It was a carousel of different teams and well, it
Speaker 1: just could not get on track there for him. So
Speaker 1: he's got a Basically, I feel like he's one of
Speaker 1: these wide receiver free agents. It has to kind of
Speaker 1: go hat in hand and look to rebuild his value
Speaker 1: out there and a short term deal and he's just
Speaker 1: gonna have to go prove it. And I think the
Speaker 1: best place to do that is the New York Giants
Speaker 1: because they desperately need help there. He would be an
Speaker 1: improvement on every other secondary wide receiver they have theoretically
Speaker 1: obviously not outside of a league neighbors, but all the
Speaker 1: secondary guys have got there. I think he would probably
Speaker 1: be an upgrade. So well, should you agree with me?
Speaker 1: Correct you're looking at the New York Giants' landing spot,
Speaker 1: same reasoning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3: I mean we didn't you didn't allow us to have
Speaker 3: Canadian football teams as options or arena football teams. So
Speaker 3: I was just trying to find the absolute worst situation
Speaker 3: that he could go to and who would act actually
Speaker 3: want him. It has to be a bad team, and
Speaker 3: it's got to be a situation he doesn't care about winning.
Speaker 3: He's going to care about who's going to give him
Speaker 3: the most money and who's going to give him any
Speaker 3: opportunity whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And it's few and far.
Speaker 3: Between of the teams that are going to give him
Speaker 3: an opportunity. So I went with the Giants by kind
Speaker 3: of like a default, like, all right, who are the
Speaker 3: three worst teams in the NFL next year? You know,
Speaker 3: were top bottom five, and where's the best opportunity. So
Speaker 3: I agree with you on the Giants with Deontay Johnson,
Speaker 3: But I can tell you I honestly wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 3: if he's a guy that doesn't sign halfway into a camp,
Speaker 3: and it's just like it's just depth body.
Speaker 2: We're talking about. Guys that are cooked might be cooked.
Speaker 1: That's the worst thing to get happened, because he's been
Speaker 1: in all these different offenses and to come in late
Speaker 1: to another one and not get the right situation and
Speaker 1: playbook and you know the right report of the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I think that would be death to Deontay Johnson. That
Speaker 1: might be the final nail on the coffin. Now Boggs,
Speaker 1: you think he ends up in New York but not
Speaker 1: on the Giants, on the Jets.
Speaker 4: Why, I just wanted to put him in the worst
Speaker 4: way shamp possibly could. I hate that. Look, he's just
Speaker 4: he's the worst locker room person in the league. Maybe
Speaker 4: like he is definitely bottom five.
Speaker 1: So you get a pull on the show. Who who
Speaker 1: has more disdain for a wide receiver? Welsh for Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel or Scott Bogman. It's for.
Speaker 3: I was about to say Deebo is like hair here
Speaker 3: hold my dropped past.
Speaker 1: There was a title. I feel at least hood for
Speaker 1: a while like Deebo for a little while. I feel
Speaker 1: like there was there was some love fest Araton.
Speaker 4: I love Deontay coming out of Toledo. You look at it,
Speaker 4: I think I think he was a very very underrated prospect, right,
Speaker 4: but it doesn't you he punched can you Pickett in
Speaker 4: or he punched Mitch Trubisky in the face in the
Speaker 4: locker room. He got he got booted out of Carolina, Carolina.
Speaker 4: You can't make it work in Carolina with all the
Speaker 4: opportunity you had there, goes to Baltimore, gets cut, goes
Speaker 4: to Houston, gets cut, goes back to Baltimore, gets cut again,
Speaker 4: Like the no one wants this guy. He's not He
Speaker 4: has to go hat in hand, but he has zero
Speaker 4: humility at all. So he's gonna have to find that.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to scrape and fight for a job
Speaker 4: and climb is himself way back there and not drop
Speaker 4: the ball. Like So, not only do you have to
Speaker 4: show that you're in you have to learn a new system.
Speaker 4: You also have to perform. I don't know if Deontay
Speaker 4: has all three of those in him to continue his
Speaker 4: NFL career much longer. So I mean, talented guy, terrible terrible,
Speaker 4: awful attitude. I don't want him in my locker room.
Speaker 1: All right, let's switch to the running backs here. We
Speaker 1: all agree that Aaron Jones and Minnesota just makes sense,
Speaker 1: correct bogs anything you want to add there seems like, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, he's just aging and he wants a ring and
Speaker 4: they don't run the ball that much. I think the
Speaker 4: fit is perfect for him, Like I.
Speaker 1: Can see them drafting a running back and maybe the
Speaker 1: third round and try should they should like to look
Speaker 1: for the future. But Welsh, it seems like, look, it
Speaker 1: was a good marriage last year of convenience and the
Speaker 1: one thing you do want to have when you were
Speaker 1: trying to bring a rookie quarterback through. And JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: is a veteran running back behind him, and Jones fits
Speaker 1: that bill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what is everybody saying too?
Speaker 3: Like I saw somebody say this is the greatest running
Speaker 3: back class, like of all time. Like everyone's losing their
Speaker 3: mind about this running back class. So why not bring
Speaker 3: a veteran that you can use, you know, part of
Speaker 3: the time, who's a good pass catcher, who knows the offense,
Speaker 3: and draft you know, some running back in the third
Speaker 3: round that's going to be amazing, And it just makes
Speaker 3: all the sense in the world.
Speaker 1: All Right. The Chargers, I think are also going to
Speaker 1: be in the market for a running back, and I
Speaker 1: think Naji Harris is that guy. For me, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the Chargers and I believe that they want to
Speaker 1: run the football. They want a back that they can
Speaker 1: depend on. Nag Harris might be lacking ceiling, but he's dependable,
Speaker 1: and I think that matters to Harbaugh. Another team that
Speaker 1: I think might be in the mix for a running
Speaker 1: back we'll see in the draft. But regardless, I could
Speaker 1: see them going with Harris anyway. And one of you
Speaker 1: agrees with me, and it's the Welsh. Welsh, Well, why
Speaker 1: do you think Los Angeles Chargers is the landing spot
Speaker 1: for Naujie Harris?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I think you laid that out really well. I
Speaker 3: think also he's going to just be looking for primary carries.
Speaker 3: This is going to be a run heavy team. I
Speaker 3: think Harbaugh is going to be able to sell it.
Speaker 3: I think it just makes a lot of sense. It
Speaker 3: was one of like the first couple teams that popped
Speaker 3: in my mind because he's not going back to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 3: so you know, where would you go? And the Chargers
Speaker 3: absolutely make a ton of sense for me. So I
Speaker 3: think they might avoid the draft, to be honest with you,
Speaker 3: and then they go and just pick up a guy
Speaker 3: like Nause. I don't know what is and what is
Speaker 3: a free agent situation? What's the situation on on Dobbins?
Speaker 4: Ugh? I mean, bogs does matter?
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters, right, Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: Dobbins will end up somewhere, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I feel like that would be the upgrade
Speaker 1: that Harball would want to make. Boggs, Where do you
Speaker 1: think nauji A lands in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4: I think the Chargers are a good spot. They have
Speaker 4: sixty six mili in cap space. Harball loves those physical
Speaker 4: running backs, so I think the Chargers are a pretty
Speaker 4: good spot. But I went with the Raiders. Grew up
Speaker 4: a Raiders fan. They need a running back real bad.
Speaker 4: He's a big, physical guy like Pete Carroll likes. Obviously,
Speaker 4: Marshaun Lynch worked out very well for him. He has
Speaker 4: a little bit of Trent Richardson syndrome, running into the
Speaker 4: back of blockers a bunch. But the Steelers line wasn't
Speaker 4: that great, so you know, I think if you get
Speaker 4: this guy in space, he's really good. But he's a
Speaker 4: guy the size of someone that doesn't need to run
Speaker 4: in space. He really needs to run to the outside
Speaker 4: because he doesn't follow blocks very well. So I think
Speaker 4: the Raiders would be a good spot for him.
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Speaker 1: a landing spot here potentially for him. Why not the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos taking a shot on Nick Chubb to see
Speaker 1: what's left in the tank. I don't know, veteran coach,
Speaker 1: maybe some respect there, maybe a little bit more time
Speaker 1: off maybe distant from the injury. Bogs, Nick Chubb, where
Speaker 1: does he land?
Speaker 4: How about Pittsburgh? I think you'd be a great counter
Speaker 4: to Jalen Warren. Right, Jalen Warren is the speed guy,
Speaker 4: but not a guy that should be handling twenty plus
Speaker 4: touches a game, So give him a breather. That way,
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb doesn't have to carry the entire workload. He
Speaker 4: has to come in for ten to fifteen touches something
Speaker 4: like that. I think it will fit perfectly, and it
Speaker 4: is a huge middle finger to Cleveland. So I would
Speaker 4: love that. That's my favorite landing.
Speaker 1: The motivation to stay in division and stick it up
Speaker 1: your old team's rear end. Well you feeling this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I'm one hundred percent with Bogs on this. This
Speaker 3: is a team that needs a power runner that they
Speaker 3: can comfortably get ten to twelve on.
Speaker 2: That is Nick Chubb.
Speaker 3: I also think the Indivision stuff can never just be
Speaker 3: a complete afterthought. I mean, Aaron Jones, we just talked
Speaker 3: about ego from Green Bay to Minnesota. I think Indivision's
Speaker 3: in play. I think Pittsburgh would want it. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure that they're going to be he got other needs,
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure running back is going to be
Speaker 3: something they're going to be invested in when you've got Warren.
Speaker 2: And I think Chubb is just looking for opportunity.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody is going to pick up Chubb
Speaker 3: for twenty plus carries. I don't think he thinks he
Speaker 3: can do that. So I think the Pittsburgh marriage is
Speaker 3: like perfect. I think it is a perfect perfect spot.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the young Marb's stink wants to know, Andrew
Speaker 1: Erickson thinks my Saints will drave Genty. Do you guys agree, Bogs,
Speaker 1: Where do you think Genty lands?
Speaker 4: I mean, he can go anywhere in the top like fifteen.
Speaker 4: If he falls past that, I'd be absolutely shack. So
Speaker 4: I think I'd be pretty surprised if he fell out
Speaker 4: us outside the top ten.
Speaker 1: I don't have boys. I think Dallas is where I mean.
Speaker 4: I think Dallas makes a lot of sense. And you know,
Speaker 4: I know Cowboys fans want O Lineman, they want d Lineman.
Speaker 4: I completely understand that. But let's not forget when they
Speaker 4: got Cedee Lamb, he was not a need for them.
Speaker 4: He was just the best player on the board. Genty
Speaker 4: will be the best player on the board. If he's
Speaker 4: still on the board where the Cowboys draft, so Saints
Speaker 4: would make a lot of sense. That way, you can
Speaker 4: trade Alvin Kamara, get a bunch of draft picks for restock.
Speaker 4: But I mean, there's a reason why New Orleans was
Speaker 4: the last team to find a coach. They have cap
Speaker 4: space issues, they have contract issues, they have quarterback issues.
Speaker 4: They have a lot of aging players on this roster.
Speaker 4: It's a disaster. So getting genty would not be nice.
Speaker 4: To be able to hit the reset button and go, okay, well,
Speaker 4: whatever quarterback we have here, we know gent's gonna get
Speaker 4: the ball twenty five times. A game breaking news, I
Speaker 4: don't hate it.
Speaker 1: Fifty six seconds ago from Adam Schefter, Bengals plays the
Speaker 1: twenty six point two million dollar franchise tag on T Higgins.
Speaker 1: There you go, breaking news right now, There you go,
Speaker 1: b baller on it. Sent me to the Twitter machine
Speaker 1: to confirm not that I don't trust b ball Er
Speaker 1: to break NFL news.
Speaker 4: A star breaker, breaking news. He's got Starbucks there you go.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, this is great for T Higgins, It's
Speaker 1: great for Jamar Chase, great for Joe Burrow, great for
Speaker 1: the Bengals. It's great for everyone except the Patriots and
Speaker 1: me because I wanted to Higgins and and I'm not.
Speaker 2: Great for Tea. He wants all that money.
Speaker 4: He wants twenty six million enough for one year. On
Speaker 4: year he's got.
Speaker 2: They want the one hundred and fifty or whatever.
Speaker 1: If they if they go to the super Bowl, or
Speaker 1: if they if they make a deep run in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and he has a great season, He'll be out
Speaker 1: there next year on the market. He'll cash in on it.
Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a bigger year to be
Speaker 1: had from t Higgins. Uh genty landing spot real quick, Welsh?
Speaker 1: Where would you go for gent I'm going Dallas, Bogman
Speaker 1: h is uh where would you say? Where are you going? Again?
Speaker 4: Because it was I mean, just Early. It doesn't matter
Speaker 4: to me. He's just on Early.
Speaker 1: That's no fun. Early isn't fun. Give me a team.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think Dallas is a great spot too.
Speaker 4: But I could see him. I could see him going
Speaker 4: to the Jets or I'm sorry, the Raiders early if
Speaker 4: they want. I could see him going to Jacksonville. Wouldn't
Speaker 4: surprise me. Chicago, you know what, Let's let's give them
Speaker 4: to Chicago.
Speaker 3: That's that's where I was gonna go think. I think
Speaker 3: the Bears are a good spot. I think Dallas and
Speaker 3: the Bears are both the spot that I would look at.
Speaker 3: There was a report coming out that wasn't it Kelton
Speaker 3: Johnson that some had him as the number one even
Speaker 3: over Genty, that there's not like a unanimous.
Speaker 4: Fake that's fake news. Yeah, no one's over Caleb or
Speaker 4: no one's over Genty.
Speaker 3: I saw it was just a couple in ownership that
Speaker 3: had them higher on the board. Again, it might just
Speaker 3: be like you're saying, such afuge of people just lying
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, but yeah, that's that's what I
Speaker 3: thought I saw. But I think the Cowboys and the
Speaker 3: Bears are the two like that. I'm not sure that
Speaker 3: that would be in the Saint's game plan.
Speaker 2: We have ca as well. I don't buy the same.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I honestly I could see gent going
Speaker 4: anywhere in that top space. And you know, it shocked
Speaker 4: us when Bijon went so high. It shocked us when
Speaker 4: Gibbs went so high after him. This is one of
Speaker 4: those guys. I wouldn't be surprised if Jacksonville said we're
Speaker 4: gonna take him He's going to be a big focal
Speaker 4: point of our offense, and we're going to give Trevor
Speaker 4: Lawrence all the helping needs at that position, so you know,
Speaker 4: they have so many other needs it doesn't really make sense,
Speaker 4: but this is a offense altering type of player. I
Speaker 4: could also see somebody trading up for him.
Speaker 2: So all I want in the world.
Speaker 3: How about the team between the Bears and the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: How about the San Francisco forty nine ers or the
Speaker 3: eleventh pick? Take Ashton Gent what do you do?
Speaker 4: Take CMC out to the barn and shoot him? Mike,
Speaker 4: what do you do with that?
Speaker 3: Take him out to Germany when he's doing their blood
Speaker 3: transfusion and shoot him.
Speaker 2: That's what you do? You shut yourself up.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the combine winners and losers from this
Speaker 1: past weekend. Scott Bogman, I know the biggest winner on
Speaker 1: your list is a wide receiver that's probably my favorite
Speaker 1: in this class personally, and I've been annoying Derrick Brown
Speaker 1: about him since January, and I said, well, when you
Speaker 1: get this even person, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: It's Matthew Golden. So let's start with there with our
Speaker 1: Texas guy here, and then give me two other guys
Speaker 1: that you were impressed with their combine this past weekend.
Speaker 4: How about the Texas speed Boys. I mean worthy last
Speaker 4: year broke the record and the best forty times this
Speaker 4: year among wide receivers. Also Matthew Golden. But Golden to
Speaker 4: transfer from Houston, you know, wasn't really sure. Okay, he transfers,
Speaker 4: he should get a starting gig. He's got a lot
Speaker 4: of experience, but Texas brought in a lot of you know,
Speaker 4: they brought in Bond from Alabama, a lot of five
Speaker 4: star recruits as well. He won the job. He started
Speaker 4: every single game and then was amazing in the playoff,
Speaker 4: and he's having a huge combine. This is bumping him
Speaker 4: from a Day three player probably in November, to a
Speaker 4: possible Day one player right now. So I think it's
Speaker 4: hard to debate that Matthew Golden has moved his stock
Speaker 4: more than probably any other wide receiver in this process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree one thousand percent with you. The playoff
Speaker 1: was amazing. That Arizona game than that that was the
Speaker 1: big one where it's was like, all right, I'm sold.
Speaker 1: Like I'd seen him have some great moments in the
Speaker 1: regular season, but that game specifically and some of the
Speaker 1: touchdowns they coordinate were just incredible moments. All right, give
Speaker 1: me two more names that you were oppressive to you
Speaker 1: this past weekend.
Speaker 4: Let's go with a running back by shell Touton from
Speaker 4: Virginia Tech, North Carolina, A and T guy. Emory Hunt
Speaker 4: loves this guy.
Speaker 2: Guy guy too. By the way, I love Tutin.
Speaker 4: Fastest forty times is twenty sixteen among running backs, so
Speaker 4: four to three. I think it was a four to three,
Speaker 4: so just incredible speed, nice burst. The guy has some
Speaker 4: good leverage as well, a little bit of fumbling issues
Speaker 4: in college, a couple injuries, stuff like that, So probably
Speaker 4: a Day two guy, but he has bumped him. This class.
Speaker 4: It's a glob of running backs. We talked about. This
Speaker 4: is one of the better running back classes we've ever seen.
Speaker 4: So to be able to move yourself up in this
Speaker 4: group is huge. Maybe propelled himself to Day two with
Speaker 4: that forty and just he's going to be you know,
Speaker 4: you give him a sliver of daylight, he is gone.
Speaker 4: He is super super fast. You know. Being a Steelers
Speaker 4: fan reminds me of Willie Parker.
Speaker 3: He ranked, by the way, confirmed four three two, which
Speaker 3: was the best forty in this combine. He had the
Speaker 3: best ten yards split at one point four to nine,
Speaker 3: and he had the best vertical jump amongst all running backs,
Speaker 3: and that's second best broad jump. So I mean, just
Speaker 3: absolute freakin athlete and that ten yard to the forty,
Speaker 3: I mean, both of those explode. He's probably I mean,
Speaker 3: you put a couple other guys in there. He's one
Speaker 3: of the reasons why guys like Nick Chubb are not
Speaker 3: going to get big deals, why these running backs are
Speaker 3: going to have to go in and have these complimentary roles,
Speaker 3: because if you're talking a Day two pick for a
Speaker 3: guy like that. By the way, he's like two fifteen,
Speaker 3: five eleven, two fifteen back running running like that the
Speaker 3: type of athlete like teams are gonna want to put
Speaker 3: a heavy investment as they can in a back like this,
Speaker 3: and it's going to push these veteran running backs.
Speaker 2: Just to the to the to the side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just to put a pin in this class here,
Speaker 4: he was like PFF does and rankings. He was RB
Speaker 4: nineteen going into the combine. So that's how.
Speaker 1: Good this grouping. I'm curious, like, what what's your your
Speaker 1: one two three Jesus gent is it k Lob and then.
Speaker 4: Gent Hampton and then uh, I have cam Scattapoo still
Speaker 4: very very high. I don't care like here, huh okay,
Speaker 4: I do not care like listen. I let the combine
Speaker 4: affect me too much. On Bucky last year, I was
Speaker 4: a huge Buckeyard guy. True, he he was. He came
Speaker 4: in too small, too slow. I let the combine affect
Speaker 4: me too much. I don't care.
Speaker 2: Then I combine. Yes, I got Bucky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well Welsh's is the Bucky guy. Yeah, but but
Speaker 4: I am not letting cam Scataboo go. I just can't.
Speaker 4: I saw him run all over Texas. He did it
Speaker 4: by himself. No, I know it's amazing. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 4: He's too good.
Speaker 1: Of the year period college and very stressful for me,
Speaker 1: very stressful for you, year off my life, not stressful
Speaker 1: for me. And the best part was it was the
Speaker 1: only day, like in the old Christmas holiday season, I
Speaker 1: was just alone in the house by myself. I was
Speaker 1: working on the playbook for the new for the new
Speaker 1: twelve U flag football team, and I'm watching this game
Speaker 1: and I'm writing up a playbook and I'm doing stuffing
Speaker 1: like this is. It doesn't get any.
Speaker 4: Better than this cam Scataboo trick plays?
Speaker 1: Do I have a stocky little kid who might be
Speaker 1: able to run and through like the vertical? How about
Speaker 1: the vertical for cam Scataboo though right almost the four.
Speaker 4: Look he he is a good athlete and he has
Speaker 4: enough burst, and the frame is huge. He's hard to
Speaker 4: pull down, so he's gonna be.
Speaker 2: My So do you have to do? You have Tuting
Speaker 2: in the top ten hard?
Speaker 4: I would probably have Tooting, I mean because I still
Speaker 4: have Caleb ahead of him. I would still have Henderson
Speaker 4: ahead of him, and Dylan Sampson and Judkins O'Neil as well,
Speaker 4: so he would be he would probably be around ten
Speaker 4: or eleven for me.
Speaker 1: Baller, says Garndo two point zero. Is that too simple
Speaker 1: of a comparison. I like your Willie Parker comparison. That's
Speaker 1: a fun one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean that Garndo is a pretty good comp
Speaker 4: so I think that's.
Speaker 3: Student's bigger than Parker. But Grenda's face, boy, so that
Speaker 3: makes a little bit more sense.
Speaker 4: It's just that speed. It's a type of playing that
Speaker 4: they have very you know, linear, There's not a lot
Speaker 4: of powers for twoton.
Speaker 1: One more winner before we get to a loser who wasn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the the last winner I had was Isaiah and
Speaker 4: A or a wide receiver from Nebraska because he has
Speaker 4: a ten on his RAS score, just crushed the combine six',
Speaker 4: four ran a four to four, flat which, is you,
Speaker 4: know we haven't seen that in his playing. Time but
Speaker 4: this is a guy that started At, wyoming he transferred To,
Speaker 4: texas got, injured didn't play a lot there. Either he
Speaker 4: was kind of, buried went To, nebraska became a big
Speaker 4: target For, dylanola and in this PROCESS i kind, of you,
Speaker 4: know he's kind of an. AFTERTHOUGHT i thought he was
Speaker 4: A day three MAYBE udfa type of. Guy but with
Speaker 4: the combine that he had and running a four to
Speaker 4: four flat at six,' four i think just really pushed
Speaker 4: him into, at least, you know early, DAY three i
Speaker 4: think at this size, and speed so he has some,
Speaker 4: injury history not the, you know most productive guy at the,
Speaker 4: college level but because he's dripping, with athleticism some of
Speaker 4: these coaches are going to look at him, and go six',
Speaker 4: four with speed. We'll fix him so he's, definitely getting, drafted.
Speaker 1: All right give me the losers real quick run through all.
Speaker 4: Three of, THEM for me I Gotta go Isaiah bond,
Speaker 4: from texas right just he said he was going to
Speaker 4: go Out And break xavier. Worthies forty times didn't. Even
Speaker 4: come close, savior worthy, even you know send him a
Speaker 4: message like respect who. Came before you all that STUFF
Speaker 4: still ran i think the fastest tracked mile per hour
Speaker 4: when He's. Doing the gauntlet so he's still a. Very
Speaker 4: fast player but he can't talk all that smack and
Speaker 4: then not live. Up TO it so i thought he lost.
Speaker 4: Little Team there Tes, johnson from moregan. Good wide receiver
Speaker 4: just he's going to be under so many thresholds because
Speaker 4: he came in, so so slender like. One fifty four
Speaker 4: didn't run a great. Forty time either if you're one
Speaker 4: fifty four and you're, running four, two's you know, for for,
Speaker 4: threes then maybe but running four fives at that small
Speaker 4: is not gonna. Get You anywhere will howard just kind
Speaker 4: of missed a bunch of THROWS. In the, qb he
Speaker 4: did you?
Speaker 1: Know he did he.
Speaker 4: Was not sharp part you.
Speaker 3: Hear about the parking lot thing that McAfee, was talking
Speaker 3: about that it was.
Speaker 4: Out, there Practicing Yeah like will howard's an. EXTREMELY hard,
Speaker 4: worker I Mean a. Kent, state guy, finally you know
Speaker 4: got his break To Go, to ohio state a big
Speaker 4: school and get a bunch of. Eyes on him he's
Speaker 4: still gonna, go DAY two but i think that he
Speaker 4: lost a little steam and he's probably moving back in
Speaker 4: the pack a little bit because of. Those bad, THROWS but,
Speaker 4: Yeah I mean will howard is still. A good player,
Speaker 4: we saw, him you know be able. To do it,
Speaker 4: but you know When You have, ohio state's weapons how?
Speaker 4: HARD is it i think that's the question that people.
Speaker 1: Have, Right Now yeah jackson dart, Look good though, AND
Speaker 1: you know I Like. The jackson dart, Dart's, PROBABLY third, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think oh i think he's definitely third on the
Speaker 1: list right. Now of quarterbacks and it would not surprise
Speaker 1: me if he ended up having a if he lands
Speaker 1: in a better spot right because he goes later to
Speaker 1: an organization that. Might be better if he ends up
Speaker 1: being more useful in fantasy sooner than later and some of,
Speaker 1: the other guys it would not be. Shocking at all
Speaker 1: and YOU know what i Loved most about dart when
Speaker 1: you're watching him play is in the combine, when you know?
Speaker 1: Did you catch like when he would line up with
Speaker 1: the receiver and he would kind of look over, and be,
Speaker 1: like what's up and he would like smile at the guy,
Speaker 1: Before the route like he just looks so confident out
Speaker 1: there and he puts everything. INTO every throw i. Just.
Speaker 1: LOVE it man i Compared Him. A jeff garcia that
Speaker 1: was my. Comp for him a guy that maybe wasn't,
Speaker 1: getting enough. Hype wasn't it but, You Know what jeff
Speaker 1: garcia was. A Tough runner jeff. Garcia Was athletic jeff
Speaker 1: garcia put everything he had. Into every throw welsh probably
Speaker 1: didn't like him because he was a. Forty nine, ER
Speaker 1: you Know. I love Jeff You love jeff garcia united
Speaker 1: that you're happy.
Speaker 4: Was A madman On Madden with.
Speaker 1: Chef CARSON around but i feel Like That's what jackson.
Speaker 1: Dark could be and there were not A lot Of Nfl.
Speaker 4: Teams baker mayfield in. Him for sure, very he's very
Speaker 4: very emotional, By, the way joey when it's good and.
Speaker 3: When it's bad all of our coverage and we couldn't
Speaker 3: get you, To the combine Like how sad like we
Speaker 3: got de bro. We got ericson they just didn't approve the.
Speaker 1: Lemon. Juice on it, it's just well Just.
Speaker 3: They were they, KEPT going live i kept tuning, into
Speaker 3: their lives and it just.
Speaker 2: We missed it it's it was A. CONSPIRACY against joe
Speaker 2: i think too.
Speaker 5: Many Bald heads.
Speaker 1: Hopefully i'll be. THERE next year i guess it was.
Speaker 1: A bald quota so uh we applied, for three passes,
Speaker 1: we got, two and uh.
Speaker 4: You know what i'll go THEN next year i have
Speaker 4: enough hair for. All three years.
Speaker 1: There you. Go problem solved. We did it so there. You,
Speaker 1: have it EVERYBODY what is i would say to the
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