Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily. We're a thousand yards of offense
Speaker 1: is light work. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris
Speaker 1: Wesleyan podcast studio after an important Week fifteen slate with
Speaker 1: my friend Patrick Clayban. Nick Shook is in Cleveland and
Speaker 1: so much felt like it was decided on this Sunday
Speaker 1: that I'm not wasting any time. We are going right
Speaker 1: to Detroit where it was a massive effort by those Bills.
Speaker 2: One receiver to the left, three to the right, Cook
Speaker 2: to the right of Allen on the shotgun, play clock
Speaker 2: down to seven, the other hand off to Cook through
Speaker 2: a Holt darts to the middle of the field thirty
Speaker 2: twenty five twenty still.
Speaker 3: On his feet, ten five, and Cook is in for
Speaker 3: the touchdown.
Speaker 4: His second rushing touchdown of the game goes forty one yards.
Speaker 1: That was James Cook on the ground, one of his
Speaker 1: two rushing touchdowns. Josh Allen added another couple on the ground,
Speaker 1: another couple through the air, and the Bills won forty
Speaker 1: eight to forty two in a game that could have
Speaker 1: major repercussions with both home field advantage races. Nick Shook,
Speaker 1: you watched this game closely, and I just thought from
Speaker 1: the very first drive. Josh Allen said, that game that
Speaker 1: I had against the Rams, I was just getting warmed up.
Speaker 5: He did it.
Speaker 1: Again, And as much as the Lions tried to like
Speaker 1: make this a game, it was.
Speaker 5: Never really a game.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that the Bills just ran through the
Speaker 1: Lions like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, consider that game in La last week to be
Speaker 6: the prelude to what we saw from the Bills today,
Speaker 6: which was an offensive explosion.
Speaker 7: I characterize it like this in the What we Learned
Speaker 7: what you can find in NFL dot com.
Speaker 6: The Bills rolled into Detroit and open palm smacked the
Speaker 6: Lions in the mouth twice.
Speaker 5: They said, we don't care.
Speaker 7: This is Ford Field.
Speaker 6: We don't catch you wearing your snazzy black uniforms that
Speaker 6: your fans are raucous and it's hostile here. We're coming
Speaker 6: in here and making a statement, which is that the
Speaker 6: points that we put up last week just a precursor
Speaker 6: to what we're about to do to you today. I
Speaker 6: felt like they commanded this game from their first two drives.
Speaker 6: They went two straight touchdown drives. They made a statement
Speaker 6: from the beginning and then rolled all the way to
Speaker 6: the end. And it was also an unfortunate sign that
Speaker 6: the Detroit defense that has taken so many hits on
Speaker 6: the injury front may be a serious concern for the Lions,
Speaker 6: who are among the NFC favorites. But hoole, buddy, that
Speaker 6: looks like a weakness after what happened today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 1: But I thought the first drive of the game was
Speaker 1: so telling, Like the Lions went three and out, And
Speaker 1: it's hard to fault the Lions offense too much on
Speaker 1: a day where they wind up with four hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty one yards or rather five hundred and twenty one
Speaker 1: yards and forty two points. But they punted their first
Speaker 1: two possessions, and on the bills first possession, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: had that absolutely ridiculous throw up the sideline to Tyd
Speaker 1: Johnson and then the even more ridiculous throw over the
Speaker 1: middle of the field where he's just evading defenders and improvising,
Speaker 1: And it was that kind of day for him that
Speaker 1: I just think he's playing quarterback at a level that
Speaker 1: I've practically never seen out of a quarterback, except maybe
Speaker 1: from Josh Allen in the twenty twenty two playoffs. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe this time he gets to finish it off because
Speaker 1: it was just like, what can you do about those plays?
Speaker 5: You can't do anything?
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, there's no spot on the field. It's safe.
Speaker 8: Josh Allen, We've seen it so many times. Roll into
Speaker 8: his right, stops on the right sideline and fires a
Speaker 8: ball to Ty Johnson. We've seen them get extra yards
Speaker 8: I think three or four times this season on late
Speaker 8: hits on Josh Allen. He got an and one on
Speaker 8: a ball down the sideline to Keon Coleman today as well.
Speaker 8: And then you factor in his ability to run, and
Speaker 8: it's almost, especially for a very hurt defense, indefensible. Where
Speaker 8: we look the long plays on this game, in some
Speaker 8: of the air yards, he had a fifty air yard
Speaker 8: pass to Keon Coleman, twenty five to Ty Johnson who
Speaker 8: went over one hundred and fifteen yards receiving. Like with
Speaker 8: the second half had barely begun, the former third string
Speaker 8: Jets running back comes over and all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: he's all world with the Bills. They're at a twenty
Speaker 8: four air yard pass the Dalton Kinkaid for twenty nine yards.
Speaker 8: Just like Jared Golf was very good in this game,
Speaker 8: exceedingly good. Didn't even come close to how good.
Speaker 1: Knocked a lot of teams out of the Fantasy playoffs,
Speaker 1: like yours, truly, Jared Goff, you know, just trying to
Speaker 1: catch up in this game. But Alec got X rays
Speaker 1: after the game. He felt a little awkwardly on a
Speaker 1: late hit. I didn't notice that live. He said it
Speaker 1: was just precautionary and that he's going to be fine.
Speaker 1: He did finish the game out. But what strikes me
Speaker 1: shook is the Lions had extra rest coming into this game,
Speaker 1: and yet the Bills were the one responding after a loss.
Speaker 1: They're the first team since the merger, basically in modern
Speaker 1: NFL history to go five touchdowns at least, no turnovers,
Speaker 1: no sacks. Then in three straight games they mashed them.
Speaker 1: And that's what stands out to me. The injuries, you
Speaker 1: can get into him shook because they're really important. But
Speaker 1: the Bills rushed for one hundred and ninety seven yards
Speaker 1: and the Lions rushed for forty eight, and that is
Speaker 1: just a team kind of taking the Lions identity away
Speaker 1: from them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was what Stott's the most was just that
Speaker 6: how easy it was for the Bills to do whatever
Speaker 6: they wanted and we've talked about this at length in
Speaker 6: previous weeks about how the Bills can beat you in
Speaker 6: so many different ways. Every way they tried to beat
Speaker 6: the Lions on Sunday they did it was passing. Guys
Speaker 6: were wide open. They did not contain Josh Allen in
Speaker 6: the pocket. He was free to roam. And we know
Speaker 6: when he's roaming. He's the most dangerous player in the
Speaker 6: NFL not named Lamar Jackson. It might even be just
Speaker 6: as if not more dangerous. He's finding guys downfield, he's
Speaker 6: extending plays, he's running for first downs, he's converting a
Speaker 6: fourth and two because of a well schemed play that
Speaker 6: gets Tidy Johnson on a natural rub down the sideline
Speaker 6: to keep that drive going. They basically took Dan Campbell's
Speaker 6: identity of going forward on fourth and two and said,
Speaker 6: now we're gonna do that too.
Speaker 7: We're gonna do it better than you.
Speaker 5: That's the new McDermott.
Speaker 1: By way, Hey, let's go like that is kind of
Speaker 1: a new version of Sean McDermott. People are always saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: McDermott's going to get them in the end, but they
Speaker 1: have been more aggressive.
Speaker 5: Don't you think shook.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 6: I think that this is their new identity, and Joe
Speaker 6: Brady's doing a masterful job leading this offense. It kind
Speaker 6: of blows my mind that they let this offense linger
Speaker 6: in like the in between area in purgatory under Ken
Speaker 6: Dorsey for as long as they did before going to Joe,
Speaker 6: because now you're seeing the true potential of it. I mean,
Speaker 6: James Cooko's for one hundred and five yards on fourteen carries,
Speaker 6: two touchdowns, So the Lions couldn't stop the run, they
Speaker 6: couldn't contain Josh Allen. Anything that Bills wanted to do,
Speaker 6: they did. I got more numbers for you too, because
Speaker 6: you know me, big numbers guy.
Speaker 9: All Right.
Speaker 6: So I'm looking down the Bills schedule and I'm like,
Speaker 6: they've put up a lot of points recently. They haven't
Speaker 6: finished a game below thirty points since Week six. They've
Speaker 6: scored thirty plus points in eight consecutive games, which ties
Speaker 6: for the longest streak in a single season in NFL
Speaker 6: history with the twenty thirteen Broncos, twenty ten Patriots, two
Speaker 6: and seven Patriots, and two thousand Rams. Each of those
Speaker 6: teams featured a winner of NFL MVP, which really bolsters
Speaker 6: Josh Allen's case for MVP. And like you said that,
Speaker 6: the first team since the merger to have five touchdowns,
Speaker 6: zero giveaway, zero sacks in three consecutive games, all of
Speaker 6: this to beat a Lions team that everybody feared that
Speaker 6: suddenly can't get a stop on defense and wasted. Jared
Speaker 6: Goff's performance, which is four hundred plus passing yards, five
Speaker 6: plus passing touchdowns, zero interceptions, first player to do all
Speaker 6: of that and lose since nineteen fifty. That's where the
Speaker 6: concern is for the Lions. And that's how good these
Speaker 6: Bills are.
Speaker 1: Remember the first part of the season when we were like,
Speaker 1: what happened to scoring? Yeah, come, there's no three hundred
Speaker 1: yard quarterback.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's just dying right cover two and everything we had.
Speaker 8: Tom Brady sounded like an old man, like as if
Speaker 8: he played seven hundred and forty four years ago.
Speaker 9: He's like, oh, yeah, the game. You know, these quarterbacks
Speaker 9: are coming in.
Speaker 8: Greg Olsen talking about guys under center, you know, calculator game.
Speaker 1: Also kickers who were infallible back then and are very
Speaker 1: much not now now. You mentioned the defensive injuries. After
Speaker 1: the game, Dan Campbell announced that Carlton Davis an Alie
Speaker 1: McNeil's two injuries could potentially be season ending. Those injuries
Speaker 1: are on top of what they already came into the
Speaker 1: game with. Now, they did get some defensive linemen back,
Speaker 1: and yet their defensive line versus the Bill's offensive line
Speaker 1: seemed like the mismatch of the game that really decided.
Speaker 1: Khalil Dorsey, a backup cornerback who's one of their replacement players,
Speaker 1: also looks like he will be out for the season.
Speaker 1: Someone asked about McNeil whether it was an acl Campbell
Speaker 1: wouldn't answer that. He wouldn't make any excuses, though, when
Speaker 1: asked about all the injuries, how much was this just a.
Speaker 10: Case of the injuries catching up to the defense and
Speaker 10: playing really good quarterble.
Speaker 9: No, I'm not buying it. I'm not. I don't buy it.
Speaker 9: You know, we we can be better, We should have
Speaker 9: been better. We know how good they are. But that
Speaker 9: was that team was more urgent than us today.
Speaker 1: Overall, maybe the weight of the season is catching up
Speaker 1: a little bit to the Lions. But they are twelve
Speaker 1: and two, and I think there's gonna be so much
Speaker 1: concern about them this year and worrying about the point
Speaker 1: and zero return.
Speaker 5: With these injuries.
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis has a jaw injury and for it to
Speaker 1: possibly the end season ending is very worrisome. I do
Speaker 1: think you saw with this offense today, like if they
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not counting them out, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be much harder if they don't win the division. And
Speaker 1: now that game coming up against the Vikings is just
Speaker 1: absolutely so massive.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they didn't have room to really slip up because
Speaker 6: of how tight the NFC North is. That kind of
Speaker 6: actually makes me question what everybody's going to talk about
Speaker 6: for the next three days on sports talk radio and TV,
Speaker 6: which is why Dan Campbell went for an on si
Speaker 6: kick with twelve thus left in the fourth quarter. I mean,
Speaker 6: that's admitting we know we can't get a stop, we
Speaker 6: are desperate, and we're going to on site kick it here.
Speaker 7: It was not a good decision.
Speaker 8: Yeah, literally the only takeaway and I'm thinking, well, heck,
Speaker 8: maybe it works out for Dan Campbell because they scored
Speaker 8: the very next play after Mac Collins has that kickoff
Speaker 8: return as well, at least they didn't burn a whole
Speaker 8: lot of clock. I really think, like, ultimately, because we're
Speaker 8: talking about all the injuries for Detroit and I'm buying it.
Speaker 9: Coach Campbell, I think having your.
Speaker 8: Best players on the field definitely has an impact on
Speaker 8: how you perform defensively.
Speaker 9: But the Buffalo Bills that they're getting guys back.
Speaker 8: This is forty four points a week ago forty two points.
Speaker 8: I understand they got to win, but this is a
Speaker 8: legitimate concern for Buffalo as well.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 1: Although they were sure at safety, two backups at safety
Speaker 1: today for the Bills, that is concerning.
Speaker 5: It's an offensive league.
Speaker 1: I just think they can maybe plug some holes and
Speaker 1: depending on the matchups in Detroit, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a death sentence.
Speaker 5: And people are going.
Speaker 1: To talk a lot about the on side kick they
Speaker 1: needed to steal a possession. They almost did get the
Speaker 1: on side kick with about twelve seconds to go, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it didn't work out for them, But just as poorly
Speaker 1: in terms of the results was when they kicked it
Speaker 1: off the next possession and then gave up a six
Speaker 1: minute field goal drive because time was more important than
Speaker 1: points at that point and there was no reason to
Speaker 1: believe that they were going to stop the Bills and
Speaker 1: they didn't. So I think it's just getting a little,
Speaker 1: you know, a little beside the point to focus on
Speaker 1: the on side kick. Let's listen to one more incredible
Speaker 1: play by Josh Allen. If I hadn't read the numbers yet,
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty two yards and two touchdowns through
Speaker 1: the air, and yeah, put sixty eight on the ground
Speaker 1: as well. This was one of his improvised plays on
Speaker 1: a day where he held the ball in terms of
Speaker 1: time to throw longer than he has in almost five years.
Speaker 2: Receiver to each side, put the loan set back with
Speaker 2: Alan unders center motion from Gilliam, Allan gonna roll to
Speaker 2: his right, pressure coming, gets away from it, looking downfield.
Speaker 5: Throws, He's hit as he throws, and.
Speaker 2: It's taught by Kean Coleman at the seventeen yard line.
Speaker 5: What a frozen rope.
Speaker 7: From Allen who took a shot and.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be an extra fifteen yards tacked on for
Speaker 2: roughing the passer.
Speaker 1: Who that was late in the first half. Tyler Bass
Speaker 1: actually missed a gimme in that situation, or or the
Speaker 1: Bills would have put up a fifty burger on the
Speaker 1: NFC's number one overall seed, at least heading into to today.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Philadelphia who saw a door being cracked.
Speaker 11: A J.
Speaker 5: Brown out to the far side.
Speaker 12: Players loansome hers this time backs up, looks fires complete.
Speaker 7: Hey J Brown and the back of the zone.
Speaker 5: Man, fantastic.
Speaker 9: This is a little play action to Saquon. He puts
Speaker 9: it in there and holds it for a little bit.
Speaker 13: Then he seems that linebacker displays on the back end,
Speaker 13: pulls it, and he throws the strike to a jam.
Speaker 1: That was Jalen Hurts to AJ Brown one of the
Speaker 1: more predictable squeaky Wheel games of all time. They were
Speaker 1: the story all week long, their relationship. Suddenly they're doing
Speaker 1: kidding play celebrations in the middle of the field. Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts started this game twelve of thirteen for one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty six yard and two passing touchdowns. The Eagles
Speaker 1: end up cruising to a twenty seven to thirteen victory
Speaker 1: over the Steelers in Philadelphia. And I really did think
Speaker 1: the difference was not just the Philadelphia defense, which I'll
Speaker 1: get to, but AJ Brown getting trusted to make difficult
Speaker 1: catches early in this game. He ends up eight for
Speaker 1: one to ten and a touchdown, and especially in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, it was like all the conversation was in
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts his head and that he was gonna give
Speaker 1: his guy a chance to make plays. And aj Brown
Speaker 1: made of DeVonta Smith goes over one hundred yards too.
Speaker 1: And even though there was a little period in the
Speaker 1: second half where Jalen Hurts was holding on to the
Speaker 1: ball too much, this game reminded me a little bit
Speaker 1: of the Bills Lions game in that Philadelphia pushed him
Speaker 1: around a little bit upfront. Their defensive line, to me,
Speaker 1: made a bigger impact in the game than the Steelers
Speaker 1: vanted defensive line, and for the most part, Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: had a lot of time back there to go find
Speaker 1: his guys.
Speaker 8: And Jeff Stotlin's group the Eagles offensive line was able
Speaker 8: to do that with Landed Dickerson out for a lot
Speaker 8: of this game. There was Lane Johnson went missing for
Speaker 8: a spot in this game, and they were able to
Speaker 8: hold Saquon Barkley to under four yards of carry, where
Speaker 8: we're waiting for this Saquon pull away opportunity that never came.
Speaker 8: And so in this absolute bowl Constrictor Leviath in ten
Speaker 8: minute and twenty nine second drive to ice the game.
Speaker 8: There are a couple of long conversions from Jalen Hurts
Speaker 8: Won to Devonte Smith Won to aj Brown. They had
Speaker 8: a fourth down conversion, a few third and short and
Speaker 8: they just kind of squeezed the life out of the Steelers,
Speaker 8: not just in that drive, but it felt like in
Speaker 8: this game on offense, Hady.
Speaker 5: It was amazing.
Speaker 1: The Steelers only had two drives in the second half.
Speaker 1: That's the first time that's happened in fifteen years in
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love checking the drive chart and just like, okay,
Speaker 1: was it a heavy drive game? Was it a low
Speaker 1: drive game? You just don't see that. In fact, in
Speaker 1: the first half of the game, the Steelers had five
Speaker 1: drives in the first sixteen minutes of the game and
Speaker 1: they did absolutely nothing with it. They had negative yardage
Speaker 1: through the first four drives of the game and they
Speaker 1: weren't moving the ball at all. So it was the
Speaker 1: Philly defense early in the Philly offense late a seven
Speaker 1: minute drive for thirteen plays that started the second half,
Speaker 1: then a six play drive after a Nase Harris fumble,
Speaker 1: which really was the most important play of the game.
Speaker 1: I think it was an unforced era at a time
Speaker 1: when the Steelers were right in it. It was a one
Speaker 1: score game. The Eagles go catch that in with some
Speaker 1: of those plays that you mentioned, Patrick, and then they
Speaker 1: finished the game after Mike Tomlin punts the ball in
Speaker 1: plus territory on fourth and seven down two touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Mike Tomlin's one of the greatest coaches
Speaker 1: of all time, but he always makes those decisions. That's
Speaker 1: to me. It seems like his bugaboo. They didn't get
Speaker 1: the ball back. The Eagles just ran it out the
Speaker 1: last ten and a half minutes of the game. And yes,
Speaker 1: it led to a happy locker room for the Eagles
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts even making a little joke when he
Speaker 1: gets to the podium.
Speaker 9: So that's what all want to see, huh.
Speaker 5: Dude, it really was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was like, yes, that is what we
Speaker 1: would like to see, Nick, It was fun.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that was so much of a
Speaker 6: joke as more of like a statement like, oh, you
Speaker 6: spent the whole week worrying about my relationship with my
Speaker 6: receivers and then we just go do that.
Speaker 7: There was no smile on his face.
Speaker 6: That was very coldly delivered, but earned, very much earned
Speaker 6: for the Eagles who spent the whole week, you know,
Speaker 6: having to deflect and everything else and explain themselves and
Speaker 6: then come out and may fire on all cylinders. I mean,
Speaker 6: a complete team performance. You have a team that dominates
Speaker 6: in time possession essentially two to one, and you rack
Speaker 6: up four hundred and one yards of total offense, You
Speaker 6: convert ten to seventeen third downs, and you hold.
Speaker 7: The opposing offense to one hundred and sixty three yards.
Speaker 6: Mister limited, Russell Wilson goes fourteen to twenty two for
Speaker 6: one twenty eight in a touchdown.
Speaker 7: They had no shot other than the score.
Speaker 6: I mean, the score was relatively close until the fourth
Speaker 6: quarter when they put them away with that touchdown. But man,
Speaker 6: this is the an Eagles defense that has basically been
Speaker 6: like this since like Week seven, since that game in
Speaker 6: New York against the Giants. This is who they've been,
Speaker 6: and the offense has gotten it done, primarily with Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 6: Now they're able to open up the passing game a
Speaker 6: little bit. The vibes around this team are still weird
Speaker 6: because of what happens on the sidelines and all the
Speaker 6: narratives that we deal with.
Speaker 5: We got we got more of that. We still got
Speaker 5: a little more of that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Tom a little bit of a tease.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's hard to argue with
Speaker 6: them at twelve and two and they're they're playing pretty
Speaker 6: dominant football. I mean, in Mike Tomlins case when he
Speaker 6: punts there, it makes sense my defense is better than
Speaker 6: my offense.
Speaker 7: It did right, Maybe they're going to turn over it,
Speaker 7: but it doesn't.
Speaker 6: It doesn't make sense. But that's what happens when you
Speaker 6: play a team that's playing this well.
Speaker 5: It's today.
Speaker 8: They got to third, they got to third and seven,
Speaker 8: third and six from the seven yard line and Jalen
Speaker 8: Hurts hits AJ Brown for twenty one yards.
Speaker 9: It changes things. But they did get to a third. Doubt.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you got to know, you got to
Speaker 1: know the game situation. I just don't think they were
Speaker 1: going to get enough possessions and their offense wasn't playing well.
Speaker 1: They had one hundred and sixty three yards, as Shook mentioned,
Speaker 1: and you're in plus territory.
Speaker 5: You're just going to run out of time.
Speaker 1: Just got to give your chance, You got to give
Speaker 1: your guys a chance to go win the game.
Speaker 8: Sure, you could say you're faunted offense. We were just
Speaker 8: discussing that the Steelers have today.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, you got to give him a chance. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: on that drive, TJ. Watt, who had two sacks on
Speaker 1: the day, one of the big plays of the game
Speaker 1: I thought was Jalen hurts unbelievable ability to hold onto
Speaker 1: the ball with his right hand as TJ. Watt swatted it.
Speaker 1: He must have the strongest hands in the entire league.
Speaker 1: Like you could even see the ball get loose there
Speaker 1: for like a half a second. I have no idea
Speaker 1: how how he could have gripped onto the ball there.
Speaker 5: TJ.
Speaker 1: Watt leaves with an ankle injury. Mike Tomlin said there
Speaker 1: will be more tests done on that, so that is concerning.
Speaker 1: They also lost Dante Jackson during this game. We'll see
Speaker 1: how serious Watt's injury is. The Steelers offense has gone
Speaker 1: through stretches like they went through early in this game,
Speaker 1: where like I mentioned, six possessions and I believe they
Speaker 1: had negative yardage through six.
Speaker 5: Possessions in three points.
Speaker 1: And the only reason why they had three points is
Speaker 1: because they started a drive in the Eagles territory, went
Speaker 1: backwards and then had to punt, but then Cooper Desine
Speaker 1: fumbled the punt and they got the ball at at
Speaker 1: the Eagles eleven yard line, went three and out again
Speaker 1: before a field goal. I mean the Eagles defense was
Speaker 1: really on one. The only mistakes they had were like penalties.
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter had a penalty on a punt that helped
Speaker 1: give the Steelers a ball around a field goal rather
Speaker 1: and other than that, Josh Sweat is really playing a
Speaker 1: lot better like Nolan Smith. It is a really complete group.
Speaker 1: And now you look ahead, they're tied with the Lions
Speaker 1: at twelve and two and they're scheduled down the stretch
Speaker 1: is very forgiving. You do have the Commanders next week
Speaker 1: in Washington. They can officially clinch the division there. That's
Speaker 1: not an easy game. But then another couple division games
Speaker 1: and they're going to be heavy favorites. They do not
Speaker 1: win any ties at twelve and two at fifteen and
Speaker 1: two with the Vikings and or the Lions, so they
Speaker 1: need the Lions and the Vikings to lose one more
Speaker 1: game each.
Speaker 5: But if that happens, they're they're in pretty good shape.
Speaker 8: Yeah, with them playing each other. Yeah, there's one get
Speaker 8: they get one of those maybe unless there's a gentleman's agreement.
Speaker 1: Charges now that will not help the Viking until though,
Speaker 1: I guess we have to find out. Yeah, the Eagles
Speaker 1: close with Dallas and the Giants at home after that
Speaker 1: game against Washington next week. So I just am so
Speaker 1: impressed with this team. And as good as the Steelers
Speaker 1: are in general, is their defense special enough? I have
Speaker 1: my doubts against the very best offenses. Now, who is
Speaker 1: that in the AFC? It's the Bills certainly, Like maybe
Speaker 1: it's the Ravens as well, that they'll get a matchup
Speaker 1: with them coming up, Like is their their defense is good?
Speaker 1: But it's not good enough? And their their offense has
Speaker 1: been opportunistic? Maybe not enough? And yees shook. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the sideline.
Speaker 5: Do you want to describe?
Speaker 1: Who wants to describe the sideline fracas between Nick Sirianni
Speaker 1: and his own defensive line coach.
Speaker 8: I was only able to look up and see it
Speaker 8: during our show, but I saw, as you know, Sirianni
Speaker 8: talking to the Delon coach big Dom there for some reason.
Speaker 5: Clinton hurt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think was stopping Sirianni, if I can interpret
Speaker 1: it right, from going up to Jalen Carter and saying
Speaker 1: anything after this boneheaded, unnecessary roughness on Jalen Carter that
Speaker 1: it was almost a defensive line coach saying not now, buddy,
Speaker 1: like now is not the time like, and then Siriani
Speaker 1: kind of squaring up to Clinton hertwich I don't think
Speaker 1: would work out well for them. But they're both pretty
Speaker 1: large menton, but you know, Clint's bigger. There's always something
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, even in a win. But man, they
Speaker 1: are really impressive. So we talked about the one seed
Speaker 1: in the NFC, could the one seed in the AFC
Speaker 1: wind up being up for grabs though?
Speaker 11: First and ten play they swing it on the near
Speaker 11: flat with a screen Worthy fifteen ten down to the block, touchdown,
Speaker 11: Cansa City on a swing screen to the near side
Speaker 11: to ke Xavier Worthy, and now the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 11: have their first three possession lead of the season and
Speaker 11: maybe their first three touchdown lead of the season.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Mitch Holtis on WDAF that's pretty crazy stat which really
Speaker 1: speaks to the chief season and also speaks to how
Speaker 1: excited he was about it. It's like, Wow, I'm finally
Speaker 1: gonna get to kick back and just enjoy an easy victory.
Speaker 5: It didn't.
Speaker 9: They didn't score after that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it didn't work out that way.
Speaker 1: The Browns had a million possessions, they only cut it
Speaker 1: to twenty one seven. That winds up being the final
Speaker 1: score because there were six takeaways from the Chiefs defense.
Speaker 1: So if you stream them in fantasy in your playoffs,
Speaker 1: great job by you.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, Nick, the.
Speaker 1: Reason why this is getting talked about so early in
Speaker 1: the show is that Patrick Mahomes left with an ankle injury.
Speaker 1: There's fear that it could be a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 1: According to multiple reports. The team is not saying that,
Speaker 1: but really just calls into question how the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks are going to go for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially if you watched this team this season, because
Speaker 6: you know how valuable Mahomes is. Now Statistically doesn't shine through,
Speaker 6: but when you watch him every week, you see him
Speaker 6: convert the third downs. He's one of the most frustrating
Speaker 6: players to defend in the NFL, and taking that element
Speaker 6: out of that offense really takes away a big part
Speaker 6: of what makes these Chiefs thirteen and one, which is
Speaker 6: that they win on the margins. They won this game,
Speaker 6: and the margins on both sides of the ball. They
Speaker 6: forced a lot of turnovers. Anytime the Browns put the
Speaker 6: ball on the turf free to be picked up, they
Speaker 6: were there to pick it up. Anytime they needed a
Speaker 6: third down. Mahomes still converted a majority of them, or
Speaker 6: at least a good amount of them. But if you
Speaker 6: take that out of the offense and you leave it
Speaker 6: to Carson Wentz, suddenly makes you question this entire team's viability.
Speaker 6: So hopefully they could get news on him. Also, Mahomes
Speaker 6: and the ankle injury history not encouraging considering what he's
Speaker 6: dealt with over the last few years. But this game,
Speaker 6: specifically classic case of a champion and a winning team
Speaker 6: playing better than a losing team. I mean, they won
Speaker 6: in every small area. Every fifty to fifty ball went
Speaker 6: their way. Every time there was a play to be made,
Speaker 6: they made it. Scheme wise, they outschemed the Browns, and
Speaker 6: the Browns defense played well enough to keep them in
Speaker 6: this game. But defensively, the Chiefs were all over Jamis Winston.
Speaker 6: They took advantage of his wrists, they picked him off,
Speaker 6: They forced a number of turnovers. They capitalized in every
Speaker 6: single situation, which is the mark of a championship level team.
Speaker 6: So to see them go winning Cleveland not surprising at all.
Speaker 6: To see them winning this fashion not surprising at all.
Speaker 6: In fact, it was more dominant than in the twenty
Speaker 6: one to seven final would even suggest, but that was
Speaker 6: because they didn't quite you know, maintain possession as long
Speaker 6: as you would want them to. But yeah, we'll see,
Speaker 6: we'll see what mahomes because it would take away obviously
Speaker 6: a huge part of their team one of the superstars
Speaker 6: of the NFL fingers crossed. But luckily they've done enough
Speaker 6: so far at thirteen to one to buy themselves a
Speaker 6: little bit of breathing room if they need it.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're getting Carson Wentz on Saturday against
Speaker 1: the Texans. I know it's early in the week, but
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport called it week to week right.
Speaker 5: Off the bat.
Speaker 1: We've seen Patrick Mahomes play, but they have two games
Speaker 1: in a five day window because they're also playing on Christmas.
Speaker 1: Maybe they just really hope that he can get back
Speaker 1: for that game against the raven So I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna have Carson Wentz in a standalone window on on
Speaker 1: Saturday or else you know, you just normally don't hear
Speaker 1: a guy like Ian Rappaport was careful about these things,
Speaker 1: say week to week right off the bat, because week
Speaker 1: to week means you're out this week. I think it's
Speaker 1: a crisis. What's happening with the Chiefs offense. They had
Speaker 1: to play Joe Tunia left tackle, which I think makes sense.
Speaker 1: You know, they lost DJ Humphries to injury and Joe
Speaker 1: Toney is the best left tackle on their roster. That
Speaker 1: part makes sense. But Patrick Mahomes has taken thirty seven
Speaker 1: quarterback hits over the last three weeks. I have to
Speaker 1: imagine that's one of the highest three game quarterback hits totals,
Speaker 1: if not the highest in the NFL this entire season.
Speaker 7: Him and Will Levis, I think right.
Speaker 1: And he didn't get sacked today, so part of it
Speaker 1: is he's just trying to make a play and he's
Speaker 1: holding onto the ball because his guys aren't open. It's
Speaker 1: just this cyclical thing. But he's taken an absolute beating and.
Speaker 8: That might be the best reason to not have him
Speaker 8: play right and come back, because they can't protect him
Speaker 8: when his ankles are good. All right, and the memories
Speaker 8: of Patrick Mahomes hobbling his way to a super Bowl
Speaker 8: on that ankle. It becomes like you think about the
Speaker 8: cumulative effect of all of these hits, where like the
Speaker 8: improvement was him getting hit on thirty eight percent of
Speaker 8: his drop backs a week ago. When they make the
Speaker 8: shift and now they've they've got Tony out there at
Speaker 8: left tackle where you're I guess the benefit that the
Speaker 8: Chiefs got today was Miles Garrett got poked in the
Speaker 8: eye and so he missed the significant portion of the game.
Speaker 8: And because otherwise Mahomes takes even more shots.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Tuney did well against him. This is
Speaker 7: the thing.
Speaker 6: He did a really good job as a guy who
Speaker 6: doesn't play tackle suddenly playing tackle. But it speaks to
Speaker 6: where the Chiefs have had to cut corners to stay
Speaker 6: competitive while paying some of these other guys as they've
Speaker 6: had to cut corners that tackle and it's been a
Speaker 6: problem of both sides the line for them this year.
Speaker 7: It is their greatest weakness.
Speaker 6: It's not their defense, it's not even their offense, their
Speaker 6: offensive line whether they can protect him, and now they
Speaker 6: may have to pay some of that bill. So I
Speaker 6: guess it's better that it's happening now as opposed to
Speaker 6: three or four weeks from now. But it is a
Speaker 6: huge red flag as you approach the postseason.
Speaker 1: Right, and they would have to lose two times to
Speaker 1: let the Bills in on the one seed. I guess
Speaker 1: the Steelers could be in that mix too, but realistically,
Speaker 1: because of the head to head, Bills are the ones
Speaker 1: they're hoping for. And if you lose to the Texans,
Speaker 1: for instance, with Carson went, then suddenly you got the
Speaker 1: Ravens five days later. If you're a fan of the Bills,
Speaker 1: like Eric back there, you at least have a little
Speaker 1: bit of hope. And the quarterback hits thing is is
Speaker 1: fascinating to me because Mahomes didn't take a sack, which
Speaker 1: is crazy like of them. The Chiefs, for instance, had
Speaker 1: eleven quarterback hits, which is a huge number in one game.
Speaker 1: They got five sacks out of it, and so whereas
Speaker 1: Mahomes didn't take any sacks at all, and that it
Speaker 1: was very similar to what happened a week ago in
Speaker 1: the Chiefs scheme. But it just feels like it's breaking
Speaker 1: down a little bit and yet they still win. And
Speaker 1: I hear you chok that probably watching the game it
Speaker 1: didn't feel as close, and Winston gets benched at the
Speaker 1: end for DTR, who also throws an interception. But in
Speaker 1: the end, like the Chiefs average four point one yards
Speaker 1: for play. I mean, that's terrible. That's if they did
Speaker 1: that all season, they'd be the worst offense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And they got drive after drive after drive that their
Speaker 1: defense kept giving them and they couldn't really move the ball,
Speaker 1: so that that is concerning to me.
Speaker 8: And two of those Jamus picks were caught in the
Speaker 8: end zone. It felt like an early white flag, Like
Speaker 8: if you're in a situation where you need to throw
Speaker 8: late in the time, it like why not just keep Jamison.
Speaker 8: I understand you're frustrated with Jamis Winston, but it was
Speaker 8: like an early white flag situation to throw DTR in
Speaker 8: that game where I don't think DTR is thicking, that's
Speaker 8: he has to come in.
Speaker 9: It's just a bad situation for everybody.
Speaker 5: DTR through nine passes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it speaks to what Greg's pointing to you for
Speaker 6: weeks really this whole season, which is that the Browns
Speaker 6: have this strange curiosity about DTR and anytime there's a
Speaker 6: little bit of a sliver of an opening.
Speaker 7: They're gonna find a way to force him onto the field.
Speaker 8: Well, let let DTR know before you range. You rage
Speaker 8: in the game against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Chiefs go plus six and turnovers. It's
Speaker 1: tough to lose a game when you go plus six
Speaker 1: in turnovers. But man, the Brown's actually somehow average more
Speaker 1: yards played despite DTR throwing nine passes for eighteen yards.
Speaker 1: We'll see if he gets like, what was the value
Speaker 1: in there? Yeah, there was no value all around. It's
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a bummer right now this
Speaker 1: season to watch the Chiefs. And it's a really big
Speaker 1: bummer that Nick Chubb left this game with a broken foot.
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski announced after the game. Unfortunately that could be
Speaker 1: the end of his Browns tenure. I hope it's not,
Speaker 1: but all the best to Nick Chubb as he goes
Speaker 1: to tackle another difficult recovery. So I mentioned that the Ravens,
Speaker 1: because of that Steelers loss, had a door open, And
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend like you guys don't know
Speaker 1: the results of the Ravens Giants game. They started Tommy
Speaker 1: freaking de Vito with the Ravens coming off of bye
Speaker 1: for God's sake.
Speaker 5: Lamar stands with the shotgun. On second down, likely comes
Speaker 5: in motion to the left. Lamar takes the snap looking
Speaker 5: to left, firing man zone.
Speaker 14: He's got a man touchdown were shot Bateman hits shucking
Speaker 14: of the.
Speaker 8: Day and Baitman runs at deep seven cut into the
Speaker 8: end zone and a beautiful throw and catch.
Speaker 1: It has been too long since we had former NFL
Speaker 1: Network employee Rod Woodson on the recap show. That was
Speaker 1: also Jerry sin Dusky wb A l on a day
Speaker 1: where Josh Allen was just about perfect and seemed to
Speaker 1: advance his cause as the National Football League's Most Valuable
Speaker 1: Player for the twenty twenty four season. My God, Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson had one of the best days of his career
Speaker 1: in the Giants. Foreign completions, five passing touchdowns and oh
Speaker 1: sixty five yards on the ground on six rushes. This
Speaker 1: must have been enjoyable of Ravens gave. You didn't have
Speaker 1: to sweat Patrick.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was fun to not sweat it.
Speaker 8: It did start off with a Lamar fumble, and despite
Speaker 8: how great that he was today, Lamar will tell you
Speaker 8: that that's the thing that he's going to remember was
Speaker 8: getting that ball.
Speaker 9: Punched out on the opening drive. After that, they did nothing.
Speaker 8: But score touchdowns as long as he was in the game,
Speaker 8: including so glad to have Rashad Bateman back after the
Speaker 8: buy two of those where he's back in the end zone.
Speaker 8: Davontees Walker tes Walker gets his first NFL cap, which
Speaker 8: is also a touchdown from Lamar, and then we got
Speaker 8: to see one of the biggest anomalies in the entire NFL.
Speaker 8: Tim Boyle comes into this game continuing to play NFL
Speaker 8: football despite throwing one touchdown and thirteen interceptions in his
Speaker 8: college career and four touchdowns and twelve interceptions in his
Speaker 8: pro career. He added to those well to the interception
Speaker 8: and the touchdown today, tim Boyle cooking up the ring.
Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta say, I don't think the Giants would
Speaker 1: have covered a mystical twenty one point spread if that
Speaker 1: was espread. I think it was sixteen and a half.
Speaker 1: So they still didn't cover. If Tim Boyle didn't come in.
Speaker 5: He was an up grade. He was better than Tom.
Speaker 1: He made to be fair about four passes that I
Speaker 1: was like, that's a pretty nice pass. I was like,
Speaker 1: cause there were two, and I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe Tommy DeVito's making these passes. And then I looked
Speaker 1: and it was actually Tim Boyle. I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: was perfect.
Speaker 8: You got to when you're Tim Boyle, you got to
Speaker 8: set the expectations so low that the people watching are like, hey,
Speaker 8: this is about three or four of those passes.
Speaker 5: It pretty nice, I think Tim Boyle, they were. They
Speaker 5: actually were nice.
Speaker 1: Look if you're a Malik Neighbors Fantasy owner or whatever,
Speaker 1: he hooked you up.
Speaker 9: Another ten catch game by the league Neighbors, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, eighty two yards in a touchdown. You know he's
Speaker 1: trying to get on those offensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year ballots. Shook that we didn't put
Speaker 1: him on before the game. I noticed the little flyover,
Speaker 1: which is now a weekly event in MetLife Stadium. It says,
Speaker 1: mister Mara, enough, we won't stop until you fire everyone.
Speaker 1: I do remember a quote from Mara at one point
Speaker 1: that that said, like the one thing that he would
Speaker 1: be most concerned about would be apathy. He doesn't mind booze,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't want apathy. And there were a ton
Speaker 1: of empty seats. It was hard not to notice that
Speaker 1: MetLife so just Brian Dable watched that.
Speaker 5: That stuck out to me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and in the same vein off the top of
Speaker 6: my head. Since Black Friday of last season, Tim Boyle
Speaker 6: has now thrown passes for three NFL teams and somehow
Speaker 6: is still in the league. This was the easiest game
Speaker 6: of the season to pick if you're in the picking
Speaker 6: group like me. Okay, we knew what was going to
Speaker 6: happen here. It's dark days for the Giants and like
Speaker 6: you said, nothing worse than empty seats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Tim Boyle it should be pointed out
Speaker 1: in college did you did you have his numbers from college?
Speaker 5: Did you throw that out there?
Speaker 9: It was his career at Connecticut.
Speaker 5: I don't know why I was spending so in statement.
Speaker 9: No, because it's fun to look back.
Speaker 8: I'm currently pulling up between twelve hundred and thirty eight
Speaker 8: hundred per flight to fly a banner around MetLife. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I know it's a very expensive operation in multiple weeks
Speaker 8: with different banners. So somebody besides John Marray has a
Speaker 8: lot of money. One touchdown, thirteen interceptions in his career
Speaker 8: at Yukon that Tim Boyle, that is absolutely forty eight
Speaker 8: completion percentage.
Speaker 1: The thing with Lamar, people will just say, well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't count because it's it's the Giants, and they end
Speaker 1: up with four hundred and forty five yards despite not
Speaker 1: having that many possessions because they just scored touchdowns on
Speaker 1: all of them and took a little longer. Like those
Speaker 1: weren't easy throws that he was making, they were really
Speaker 1: great timing throws. He now leads the NFL in yards
Speaker 1: per attempt passing, in yards per carry rushing. His yards
Speaker 1: per attempt is adjusted yards per attempt is far and
Speaker 1: away the best in the league and the best of
Speaker 1: his career. He's having such a better season that he
Speaker 1: did a year ago that it's just something to watch
Speaker 1: down the stretch because they have some big, big time
Speaker 1: games with the Steelers and the Chiefs coming up.
Speaker 5: That if he.
Speaker 1: Played absolutely outstanding and Allen or the Bills, you know,
Speaker 1: stumbled a little bit down the stretch, you never know,
Speaker 1: this thing might not be over. Because Lamar just has
Speaker 1: been that good this year. The only thing that wasn't
Speaker 1: good about him on Sunday were his pants.
Speaker 15: All right, So look, it was asking me that, So
Speaker 15: I'm like, I felt like Winn was touching my butt,
Speaker 15: you know. So I was trying to keep my tights
Speaker 15: up for real, like the tights just like gotta lot loose.
Speaker 9: Who nose.
Speaker 15: It's all like, just kind of keep my pants up.
Speaker 15: That's all it was. It was too cold.
Speaker 8: He made it defense or miss while pulling his pants up.
Speaker 8: By the way, we saw new Compkins completely lose his
Speaker 8: pants today. There's a pants issue league wide right now.
Speaker 1: There have been a lot of pulling the pants down situations.
Speaker 1: That one was crazy because he said, and that's a
Speaker 1: classic quote. Can we cut that to just the I
Speaker 1: felt the wind touching my butt. It's fantastic because it
Speaker 1: certainly didn't look like that to the outside. I think
Speaker 1: he just he just felt it and it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't what was happening. It was just cold. But uh,
Speaker 1: that was about it. If you can get first downs
Speaker 1: while pulling up your pants, that's when you know football
Speaker 1: is back. All right, Let's take a quick break here
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go to the AFC South where, yes,
Speaker 1: the division was on the line on Sunday, even though
Speaker 1: the Texans were struggling.
Speaker 9: What wind was touching the.
Speaker 5: Tua takes the snap. Tua with pressure throwing calf field
Speaker 5: two was White and Stanley a good. That's gonna do it.
Speaker 5: The Texans are gonna beat Miami. Stanley's second pick seals
Speaker 5: the deal. Bad Houston will get its ninth win.
Speaker 1: If you didn't count Derek Stingley as one of the
Speaker 1: best cornerbacks in the NFL, I think today did it
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 5: That was Mark VanderMeer, by the way on k I
Speaker 5: l t Yes.
Speaker 1: The Texans in the early window, knowing they had a
Speaker 1: chance to possibly win the division today with a win
Speaker 1: and a Colts loss, took care of business and it
Speaker 1: was all about the defense, especially Stingley. They forced to
Speaker 1: a tongue of Iloa into four turnovers in this game.
Speaker 1: That was just an absolutely electric like play by by
Speaker 1: Stingley that not many cornerbacks could possibly make. And the
Speaker 1: interception that he had earlier in the second half, I
Speaker 1: think not only showed what a good player he is
Speaker 1: in terms of his athleticism, his ability to read what
Speaker 1: the play is going to be, but also what Miami's
Speaker 1: limitations are. I think Trent Green did a good job
Speaker 1: pointing out during the game Singly with City on that
Speaker 1: route all day and the double move to go deep
Speaker 1: for Tyreek Hill would have been there all day and
Speaker 1: they just never did it. Like this is an offense
Speaker 1: that played inside of a box and they made it
Speaker 1: work for most of the time that Tuatungo Iiloa has
Speaker 1: returned since his injury. But they just can't hit anything
Speaker 1: down the field. Everything is short. Jalen Waddle goes out
Speaker 1: of this game with an injury, and Tyreek Hill did
Speaker 1: not have a catch until midway through the third quarter.
Speaker 1: So Stingley's is sitting on that route over and over again,
Speaker 1: and he makes a great play while the Dolphins are
Speaker 1: driving in a game that I thought they were gonna
Speaker 1: steal because the Texans offense couldn't do anything. But ultimately
Speaker 1: this was a true defensive battle shook between a defense
Speaker 1: that's been borderline great all year and a defense that's
Speaker 1: been good and just had its moments. And the one
Speaker 1: that's been borderlined great, they just stepped up today and
Speaker 1: they got the Texans a win.
Speaker 6: And that's what it comes down to in a matchup
Speaker 6: like this. And you're right, the Dolphins offense has been
Speaker 6: playing in a box and for a while it worked.
Speaker 6: I mean, we knew that the explosive play wasn't there,
Speaker 6: but they were making it work with Tua and timing
Speaker 6: and accuracy until today when he throws three interceptions. Because
Speaker 6: they have to be one of the easier studies for
Speaker 6: an opposing defense since two has been back, and I
Speaker 6: think the Houston Texans definitely proved that today.
Speaker 7: But this is that type of out.
Speaker 6: Can we get from these two teams, because Houston still
Speaker 6: can't find its way offensively, and yet they were able
Speaker 6: to convert.
Speaker 7: CJ.
Speaker 6: Stroud throws a fantastic touchdown pass to Nico Collins, one
Speaker 6: of those classic like nothing's there, nothing's there, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: keep buying time. Oh I'm going to flick a wrist
Speaker 6: and touch down the back of the end zone a Nico,
Speaker 6: and that's all you ended up needing in a twenty
Speaker 6: to twelve win. Now, Houston leaves a lot to be desired.
Speaker 6: There's a lot to be concerned about with them. There
Speaker 6: has been this entire season, especially offensively. But if their
Speaker 6: defense can play this well against a number of different
Speaker 6: opponents that maybe harder studies than the Dolphins in their
Speaker 6: limited offense, then they're going to have a shot. And
Speaker 6: especially because they're in a division like you said that
Speaker 6: was up for grabs, but they're clearly in front of
Speaker 6: So you come away feeling good about this win, you
Speaker 6: still have your concerns about the Texans and the Dolphins meanwhile,
Speaker 6: are looking at this like, oh no, there's the death blow.
Speaker 6: We were going to try to mount this great comeback
Speaker 6: and we might just be toast now.
Speaker 8: And when you look over across the AFC, right and
Speaker 8: these teams and what they have and where they're unique
Speaker 8: and where they're different, this Derek Stingley performance and also
Speaker 8: the Will Anderson performance as well, these Texans are going
Speaker 8: to give somebody a problem, right because they are so
Speaker 8: good in the ability right to cover and provide pressure.
Speaker 13: Well.
Speaker 9: Will Anderson was getting rid of the ball fast. He's
Speaker 9: always gotten rid of the ball fast.
Speaker 8: Will Anderson wins so early and strip Sacks's former teammate,
Speaker 8: leading to a scoring opportunity where Houston can afford right
Speaker 8: to be kind of regressed on offense and score on
Speaker 8: these scrappy plays where you end up having Robert Woods
Speaker 8: peel off to block Kalais Campbell and then he throws
Speaker 8: and c J. Strout throws a touchdown pass and Nico
Speaker 8: Collins the second of the day where they can afford
Speaker 8: to have those types of problems, whereas Miami it felt
Speaker 8: like they had to execute. They had to be just
Speaker 8: so good and so precise to get these short completions
Speaker 8: time after time after time where the clock just eventually
Speaker 8: runs out on them.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: The difference was the Texans took advantage when they got
Speaker 1: down to the red zone. Their offense was basically do
Speaker 1: something magical CJ. It was back to the offense from
Speaker 1: the first six or seven weeks that was reasonably effective.
Speaker 5: He just did it enough today.
Speaker 1: They also set up a score on a drive where
Speaker 1: he has a I think it was Zach Seeler is
Speaker 1: draped all over him and he completes it to keep
Speaker 1: the drive going. There was nothing to feel good about.
Speaker 1: Otherwise they couldn't run the ball at all. Their stuff rate,
Speaker 1: which it means you're getting stopped at the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage or behind, was way higher than their success rate
Speaker 1: in terms of their running game. So Joe Mixon was
Speaker 1: a ghost in this game. He had under two yards
Speaker 1: per carry. C. J. Stroud was under heat quite a bit,
Speaker 1: but to Patrick's point, so was Tua. Even though he
Speaker 1: got rid of the ball pretty quickly. Daniel Hunter, I thought,
Speaker 1: hadn't even better game than Anderson, who had a big
Speaker 1: time splash play and also had a lot of pressures.
Speaker 1: There was eleven quick pressures for the Texans, and it's
Speaker 1: really hard to run an offense that way. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: were missing both their starting tackles, which is important context,
Speaker 1: and yet I didn't think that was that huge a.
Speaker 5: Deal in the game, at least early on.
Speaker 1: Like he was, he had some time to throw and
Speaker 1: most of the pressure was coming through the middle, and
Speaker 1: like I said, neither of these teams could do anything.
Speaker 1: It was three point six yards per play. I think
Speaker 1: the difference was as good as Tua has been in
Speaker 1: creat a to a mode this season, like CJ. Stroud
Speaker 1: was better at that today. Neither one of them had
Speaker 1: a run game. Neither one of them were putting very
Speaker 1: good position to succeed. It was not a pretty game whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But the Texans had the home field advantage and they
Speaker 1: seem like they've got a little something to them where
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are just done.
Speaker 8: And they did that, and they didn't have Joe Mixon
Speaker 8: for a stretch in this game, because for the second
Speaker 8: time this season, Joe Mixon has gotten clear clear as day.
Speaker 8: HP tackled with no flag and so he's he was
Speaker 8: able to get back in the game. But he just
Speaker 8: finished with twenty three yards on the ground, a guy
Speaker 8: who's had one hundred yards and a touchdown at seven
Speaker 8: games this season and he's only played in ten.
Speaker 5: Of Right, it was because of another hip drop tackle.
Speaker 5: By the way, right, it was brutal.
Speaker 1: There actually hasn't been I went to check this a
Speaker 1: call on a hip drop tackle all season. So I
Speaker 1: think it's just become something where they're going to find
Speaker 1: players for it.
Speaker 5: And it might be too.
Speaker 1: Difficult for officials to call that in real time because
Speaker 1: we saw a couple of big examples of it today.
Speaker 1: Because what's the point of a rule where you can't
Speaker 1: call it. I'm not really sure.
Speaker 7: Add in replay assists, maybe you'll get that change.
Speaker 5: YEP, I think I think that could be where we go.
Speaker 9: But it seems like the obvious move right a lot
Speaker 9: of things.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 1: CJ ends up with one hundred and thirty one yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns through the air. Unfortunately, a big part
Speaker 1: of the story of this game was the wide receiver
Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins, Grant to Bo's who an injury
Speaker 1: replacement after they released Odell Beckham since we last spoke
Speaker 1: to you on Friday, so Odell Beckham is on waivers
Speaker 1: by the way as we speak. But granted Bo's was
Speaker 1: out there and took a really nasty hit over the
Speaker 1: middle on a pass from Tua that put you know,
Speaker 1: put to Bo's in a tough position, and Kaylen Bullock
Speaker 1: came over the middle and hit him, you know, right
Speaker 1: in the head, and his head kind of snapped back
Speaker 1: and also hit the ground very hard. Was put on
Speaker 1: a stretcher. They had to cut off his helmet, take
Speaker 1: off his shirt, taken to the hospital. He's going to
Speaker 1: stay over Sunday night. The Dolphins would just say that
Speaker 1: they've had positive results and that he's stable and no
Speaker 1: more information than that. So just sending our best, obviously
Speaker 1: and hoping for the best for that young man and
Speaker 1: his family. It was a really scary scene for the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Grandy Bo's today. All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: our next segment. It's the time for the Sunday Drive
Speaker 1: presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camry. We're going
Speaker 1: to Denver. When this game started, the Colts knew they
Speaker 1: had to win the game to stay alive in the AFC.
Speaker 5: South plods to.
Speaker 7: The right, four receivers right, this is going to be
Speaker 7: a double pass.
Speaker 9: They throw it, completed it.
Speaker 14: Throw back to Richardson, mister cantercepting, intercepting's in perto Peno
Speaker 14: to there and so touchdown Tisser sixty years on the
Speaker 14: pick six. This place is a madhouse.
Speaker 1: The Broncos fans. I think we're going that crazy because
Speaker 1: they're getting used to Nick. But you know, with these
Speaker 1: pick sixes, they're throwing out defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: candidate and it's not that crazy. Broncos win thirty one
Speaker 1: to thirteen, and I think the intensity of that celebration,
Speaker 1: and of course the call you heard by Dave Logan
Speaker 1: on Ka was.
Speaker 5: Because they didn't expect it.
Speaker 1: They were down thirteen to seven in a game where
Speaker 1: bo Knicks keeps throwing interceptions and it just doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like the Broncos day. And then suddenly an avalanche of
Speaker 1: points and it all happened, really got kickstarted Patrick after
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor dropped that ball on what would have been
Speaker 1: a long.
Speaker 8: Touchdown, twenty four unanswered points and those two huge mistakes
Speaker 8: by the Colts ends it dooms them as they kind
Speaker 8: of severely wound their opportunity for a late season pushing
Speaker 8: the AFC. The interceptions by Anthony Richardson of course held
Speaker 8: him back as well. They wasted one of the worst
Speaker 8: games that bow Nicks has played in two months for Denver.
Speaker 9: When things look awkward in the backfield.
Speaker 8: He had three interceptions, miscommunications, sideline arguments, the whole thing there.
Speaker 8: He was pressured on less than eleven percent of his dropbacks,
Speaker 8: and on those dropbacks without pressure, he was nineteen of thirty.
Speaker 9: But the Colts led thirteen to seven in the third quarter.
Speaker 8: Jonathan Taylor on a play where he looks like twenty
Speaker 8: twenty two, Jonathan Taylor cuts it back, hits the sideline
Speaker 8: forty one yard touchdown. We've already left that game, and
Speaker 8: we're doing another highlight and I'm looking at the scoreboard
Speaker 8: and I'm like, why are their points not going on
Speaker 8: the scoreboard because he comes back.
Speaker 9: We come back to the game.
Speaker 8: Jonathan Taylor's arm swings back and he drops the ball
Speaker 8: a fraction of a second before crossing the goal line.
Speaker 8: And then after the Broncos score, they're leading by four
Speaker 8: when Nick Benito intercepts. What we think because we went
Speaker 8: back and looked at it was a screen to Anthony
Speaker 8: Richardson that the Colts set up, and that's why the
Speaker 8: offensive line didn't block Nick Benito. But it would have
Speaker 8: been great if they did, because then they would have
Speaker 8: a chance to win the ball game. But they just
Speaker 8: kind of let him go and disaster strikes and just
Speaker 8: we think about, like historically Colts trick plays that could
Speaker 8: go horribly wrong.
Speaker 9: This one was worse than that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because this one.
Speaker 9: Helps the season, like essentially end of the season today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are six and eight, they are out, the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans are the AFC South champions. The Colts can
Speaker 1: still potentially get a wild card if the Chargers collapse
Speaker 1: down the stretch. That's really their hope. That's the Bengals
Speaker 1: hope who will get to later. But the division race
Speaker 1: is over. And you feel for Jonathan Taylor, yeah, because
Speaker 1: they did not score another point after that. And it's
Speaker 1: not like they didn't get opportunities. They got eight more
Speaker 1: drives after that, and that was a third quarter fumble,
Speaker 1: and yet they actually had negative yardage for their next
Speaker 1: five drives, which included a couple fumbles, Richardson throws an
Speaker 1: interception at one point. It was kind of a full
Speaker 1: team collapse, And to Denver's credit, they are kind of
Speaker 1: the team, to me shook this season that lets other
Speaker 1: teams collapse in front of them. And even though Nicks
Speaker 1: had a terrible game, like the defense, which has been
Speaker 1: so good all year, stood up strong after that Taylor play. Man,
Speaker 1: it's hard not to go back to that player Taylor
Speaker 1: play and wonder what would have been because it was
Speaker 1: twenty would have been twenty to seven at that point.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that's not the best compliment to give
Speaker 6: a team that's in the playoff fin I know Broncos
Speaker 6: fans will bristle at that, but it's accurate. I mean,
Speaker 6: if you look at their last two wins, it was
Speaker 6: against the Raiders and the Browns. We know how that
Speaker 6: Browns game ended with a pick six. Look, this is
Speaker 6: an example of a team like the Colts that have
Speaker 6: been grasping in straws all year. We had the carousel
Speaker 6: at quarterback, going to Joe Flacco thinking that was gonna work.
Speaker 6: It didn't go back to Richardson, and what you've gotten
Speaker 6: from him is spectacular play in small bits and a
Speaker 6: lot of uneven play in other areas, at which point
Speaker 6: you then say, let's run a trick play to maybe
Speaker 6: set up a screen for our quarterback who may be
Speaker 6: a better runner than he is a thrower right now,
Speaker 6: because we don't know what else to do. And I
Speaker 6: think it starts with a mistake like Taylor fumbing the
Speaker 6: balt Of goal on which, by the way, not the
Speaker 6: only instance which that happened today. We'll get to that later,
Speaker 6: and then you just kind of it compounds from there,
Speaker 6: and it's a team that is six and eight. Essentially
Speaker 6: they defined their record with the way they conducted themselves today.
Speaker 6: It's unfortunate because I think they're more talented than that
Speaker 6: when Shane Stycken is a good coach, But what a
Speaker 6: bad decision in that situation to give that team that
Speaker 6: much juice on a day in which they weren't playing
Speaker 6: well to begin with. But credit to the Broncos, you know,
Speaker 6: they finished the game strong. They just needed somebody to
Speaker 6: help them break the day.
Speaker 1: Credit to Benito, especially because he ran He just said,
Speaker 1: like if that was a screen, he said, he read
Speaker 1: it like that, like why are they throwing that backwards?
Speaker 9: Literally?
Speaker 8: Even the Colts even read it better than the Colts
Speaker 8: who were running the play. He was more aware than
Speaker 8: literally anybody on the field, including perhaps maybe the Colts coaching.
Speaker 1: Still right, And the crazy thing is after the tailor
Speaker 1: you know, drop fumble, you figure, okay, that then that's
Speaker 1: gonna swing the game. Denver must have taken advantage. No,
Speaker 1: they go four and out, they give their ball right back.
Speaker 1: The Colts then go three and out, give it right back. Well, okay, surely,
Speaker 1: now it's when the Broncos get going. No, that's actually
Speaker 1: when Bo Knicks threw his third interception. The very next play,
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman fumbles the ball to give the Broncos the
Speaker 1: ball back. And okay, now finally Bo Knicks in this offense,
Speaker 1: they're going to take advantage. Nope, they go three and
Speaker 1: out and kick a field goal. So it was just
Speaker 1: in a punt their next position. It was like chance
Speaker 1: after chance after chance. So it's hard to know, like
Speaker 1: who to blame here, I don't even know, but I
Speaker 1: do know that you give the Broncos defense credit for
Speaker 1: how they closed out this.
Speaker 9: Yeah they did, and Locke was the player who got that.
Speaker 8: It was almost like not necessarily helmet on the football
Speaker 8: on MPJ, but it was more of a shoulder pad
Speaker 8: where pushed his arm back and the ball flies out
Speaker 8: that the Broncos recover. It's a it's off to make
Speaker 8: plays against this Broncos defense. I mean, we saw Jamis
Speaker 8: do it, but we also saw James turn the ball
Speaker 8: over right doing it on some very dangerous passes, which
Speaker 8: is what Vance Joseph puts you in position to do.
Speaker 8: And the way that this Colts team has operated all
Speaker 8: season long, where it's you know, they're either running the
Speaker 8: ball or they're taking deep shots like low completion probability
Speaker 8: shots where it all turns out kind of in the
Speaker 8: way you expected, where they have this high variance of
Speaker 8: outcomes and when it works, it looks great, but when
Speaker 8: it doesn't, it looks absolutely horrible.
Speaker 9: And it just didn't work for long stretches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bo Nicks ends up two for eight on passes
Speaker 1: over ten yards for thirty three yards, two for eight
Speaker 1: for thirty three yards, does get two touchdowns, but throws
Speaker 1: all three interceptions. The intermedia area especially rough, it was
Speaker 1: very similar. Actually, I was looking at the next gen
Speaker 1: sets Tatua's numbers over ten yards. He was three for
Speaker 1: ten with an interception. Just couldn't get anything going except
Speaker 1: for the short stuff. And yet they are basically locked
Speaker 1: in the playoffs now at nine and five, so they
Speaker 1: move up to the sixth seed. I wanted to circle
Speaker 1: back on what was happening with the Ravens too. They
Speaker 1: are at the five seed. They are one back of
Speaker 1: the Steelers. They have a much better chance the Ravens
Speaker 1: do of now catching the Steelers.
Speaker 5: For the division.
Speaker 1: The Broncos are at nine and five at six the Chargers,
Speaker 1: who they play on Thursday Night that's a big game,
Speaker 1: are at eight and six. According to Next Gen Stats,
Speaker 1: the Broncos have a ninety one percent chance to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Chargers have an eighty seven percent chance
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. The Colts, Dolphins, and Bengals are
Speaker 1: all ten percent and under, down to six percent for
Speaker 1: the Bengals. So if one of those three teams could
Speaker 1: catch fire and get to nine wins, it's possible they
Speaker 1: could win a tiebreaker over the Chargers of the Chargers
Speaker 1: stumble down the stretch and only get one win, which
Speaker 1: is it's certainly on the table. That was the Sunday
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Speaker 7: Shotgun looked the past.
Speaker 12: Mayfield looking, goes the ball downfield toward Evans.
Speaker 5: He makes the catch, touchdown.
Speaker 16: Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Mike Evans two catches and the
Speaker 16: promised man today.
Speaker 7: Want to throw by Mayfield on third down a dozen.
Speaker 1: Geene Decker haff with a thirty five yard touchdown throw
Speaker 1: to Mike Evans. Part of a magical day for Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: Forget about the injury report. He went nine for one
Speaker 1: f nine and two touchdowns. Thousand yard paces back on, Patrick.
Speaker 8: Oh, back on in full effect as the drive summaries
Speaker 8: in the second half. How about this from Tampa Bay,
Speaker 8: say finished forty to seventeen. You think this will sustain
Speaker 8: the whole way? No, there was an interception in a
Speaker 8: field goal consecutively in the first half, second half, touchdown
Speaker 8: field goal, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, end of game.
Speaker 9: Baker Mayfield got hot.
Speaker 8: He got picked off by your guy t tar heap
Speaker 8: still and decided never again. Firing these balls to Mike Evans,
Speaker 8: and on the other side, the Chargers offense just kind
Speaker 8: of wilted and went away and did essentially nothing as
Speaker 8: the game ended, justin Herbert took a shot to his ankles.
Speaker 9: Oh in this game, slow to get up after that.
Speaker 8: Just a very uninspiring game from the Chargers offense at
Speaker 8: home in a week that had so much opportunity with
Speaker 8: the Broncos playing in that game against the Colts, They've
Speaker 8: got a game in the same window, and it was
Speaker 8: really just very, very disappointing versus a Bucks team that
Speaker 8: now can watch the Monday night football game for the
Speaker 8: Falcons essentially without worry.
Speaker 9: Only good can come out of that for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could take a commanding two game lead in
Speaker 1: the division if the Falcons wind up losing that It's.
Speaker 5: Not like this was a blot throughout.
Speaker 1: The Bucks needed a field goal late in the second
Speaker 1: quarter to make the halftime score Chargers seventeen, Bucks thirteen.
Speaker 1: And to Liam Cohen's credit and Baker Mayfield's credit, this
Speaker 1: team has been so hot starting games all year, and
Speaker 1: they were fine starting games, but Baker had that interception
Speaker 1: starting this game. But they figured some things out This
Speaker 1: is only the third time in Jim Harbaugh's coaching history
Speaker 1: that his team's giving up over five hundred yards. It
Speaker 1: was only eight yards away from the worst game that
Speaker 1: an NFL team that he coached had. And this Bucks offense,
Speaker 1: despite not having Evans for much of the season, despite
Speaker 1: not having Godwin for most of the season, is a
Speaker 1: legit top five offense. And if they can get defensive
Speaker 1: play like this, I know they were going against a
Speaker 1: wounded animal a little bit here.
Speaker 5: They are kind of that team you don't want to face.
Speaker 1: And there are some numbers that show since about Week nine,
Speaker 1: their run defense has bounced back quite a bit. It's
Speaker 1: partly because of their schedule, but it's bounced back quite
Speaker 1: a bit. And their pressure rate and they're sending lots
Speaker 1: of pressure shook. They're not getting winning a lot of
Speaker 1: one ones, but their pressure rate has you know, gone
Speaker 1: through the roof over the last four or five weeks,
Speaker 1: and lately the underlying metrics show that this team is
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in football.
Speaker 7: Yeah, although it didn't today.
Speaker 6: They only recorded ten pressures for a percentage of twenty seven,
Speaker 6: but that didn't matter because they capitalized against an offense
Speaker 6: This has been my fear. You talk about wounded animal.
Speaker 6: This has been my fear at the Chargers for a while.
Speaker 6: You don't have JK. Dobbins, you have no running game
Speaker 6: to speak of. You get Lad McCaughey back, he catches
Speaker 6: five passes for fifty eight yards in a touchdown, but
Speaker 6: your offense just enters a massive run. You want to
Speaker 6: talk about being a drive chart guy. While those drives
Speaker 6: that Patrick just listed all the touchdown and field goal
Speaker 6: and touchdown good stuff on the On the Chargers side,
Speaker 6: we got punt, punt, interception, down downs, fumble. This is
Speaker 6: the dark side of what the Chargers offense could be
Speaker 6: if they're not able to establish a rhythm early, and
Speaker 6: that's in a game that was still only a four
Speaker 6: point game just before halftime. That's where I get concerned
Speaker 6: about them. I feel like they're ceiling remains low, especially
Speaker 6: when they don't have the ground game to speak of,
Speaker 6: which is why I wouldn't quite settle the AFC playoff
Speaker 6: race just yet. And against the Buccaneers team that I
Speaker 6: think we've known this all year. This is their potential.
Speaker 6: You said it weeks ago. They're at offensive team first,
Speaker 6: and they need to embrace that well, they certainly.
Speaker 7: Embraced it today.
Speaker 6: And Baker Mayfield finally gets past his streak of throwing
Speaker 6: picks and you know, trying to make something out of
Speaker 6: nothing too often. Instead he lights it up and the
Speaker 6: Buccaneers are looking.
Speaker 1: Enjoy it, kind of crush like jump up on the table, Patrick,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 8: Touf on the table. I'm just wondering because you're looking
Speaker 8: at me. Yeah, I don't have an apology to offer
Speaker 8: to MV Baker. They got a great ah, they got
Speaker 8: MVB y MVB. But there was a great rep where
Speaker 8: on the first Mike Evans touchdown where you just see
Speaker 8: how this offense can operate when they protect Baker, because
Speaker 8: when Baker is protected, he doesn't necessarily file if they
Speaker 8: handle it and do all these try hard and do
Speaker 8: too much plays where when you see it in rhythm,
Speaker 8: it's it's beautiful. It's a beautiful machine. And that's how
Speaker 8: you get twenty two of twenty seven for four touchdowns
Speaker 8: with that one mistake.
Speaker 1: He is so good when getting rid of the ball
Speaker 1: at the back of his drive and it's similar, but
Speaker 1: I think more fun to watch than Tua. The way
Speaker 1: this offense has been running. I think Liam Cohen, for instance,
Speaker 1: like I think he's done a better as good a
Speaker 1: job as as any offensive coordinator out there. Like even
Speaker 1: the Jalen McMillan touchdown. I mean, this guy's just a
Speaker 1: touchdown machine at this point. That speaks a little bit
Speaker 1: to the scheme is creating open receivers sometimes. I mean
Speaker 1: McMillan had no one anywhere near him because they executed
Speaker 1: a perfect rub. But also Mayfield, you know, he doesn't
Speaker 1: put too much air under that ball, and he hits
Speaker 1: McMillan in stride with some good velocity and he just
Speaker 1: makes it look easy. Over ten yards per throw for
Speaker 1: Baker today, Bucky Irving returned in this game, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they ended up with two twenty three on the ground,
Speaker 1: twenty five from Baker, including a twenty yard scamper, Like
Speaker 1: he'll throw that in there. Rashad White, you know, one
Speaker 1: of the better receiving backs in the league. This This
Speaker 1: Bucks team is eight and six, and yes, the Chargers
Speaker 1: only three games left. We'll talk about them a lot
Speaker 1: this week because they're on Thursday night and that's a
Speaker 1: big game. We got men A Cimes on the show.
Speaker 1: That's going to be a really fun one they do
Speaker 1: finish after that game with Patriots and Raiders.
Speaker 6: And oh they need that, Oh they need opened the
Speaker 6: door because I have something to offer to you. Greg, Okay,
Speaker 6: the number one Baker hater. We got to commission a
Speaker 6: group of third or fourth graders to compose some sort
Speaker 6: of construction paper hat that you have to wear on
Speaker 6: the show. If Baker Mayfield throws for forty touchdown passes,
Speaker 6: he just got passed his season high his twenty eight
Speaker 6: touchdown passes last year.
Speaker 9: He just broke that.
Speaker 6: Today he hits forty. We got to get them to
Speaker 6: make you a hat you gotta wear on the show.
Speaker 5: What is that even? What is that a hat? Okay,
Speaker 5: send me a paper.
Speaker 7: Hack and wear your crowd that was Brown is the
Speaker 7: biggest Baker hater.
Speaker 5: I am not the biggest Baker hater. I'm not a
Speaker 5: Baker hater at all.
Speaker 1: All I was was pushing back on the MVP talk
Speaker 1: and he was he was just driving me a little
Speaker 1: crazy lately. No, their schedule, that was the Chargers schedule,
Speaker 1: I was. I was reading, So they're gonna like the
Speaker 1: Bengals or the Dolphins, any team that wants to try
Speaker 1: to run the table and hope for a Chargers loss
Speaker 1: is gonna need a Patriots or Raiders home win most
Speaker 1: likely or certainly on Thursday Night, they're gonna need a
Speaker 1: Broncos win. The Bucks, on the other hand, are gonna
Speaker 1: be heavy favorites their final three games. The Falcons are
Speaker 1: in a world of for now. They are at Dallas
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football, assuming that stays there in Week
Speaker 1: sixteen and then Panthers and Bucks to end the season.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they get through all those games, but they
Speaker 1: will be favored in all of them.
Speaker 7: The performance are making those hats.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the performance by the Chargers today, I understand it's
Speaker 8: it's the Raiders at a late season game against Jack
Speaker 8: May and the Patriots.
Speaker 9: I wouldn't chalk those up at the No.
Speaker 5: No, they can loseen to anyone.
Speaker 9: Chargers today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for their defense to get exposed like that, Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa has not given them anything. They had another injury,
Speaker 1: Cam Heart left at cornerback, and then their offense it
Speaker 1: felt to me like Lad McConkie is great, but he's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many drives ended with an incompletion
Speaker 1: to mcconkeye because there's no one else to throw to
Speaker 1: and Herbert's just trying to give his one guy a shot.
Speaker 1: So the Chargers lose, and that was good news for
Speaker 1: Bengals fans who have not last lost hope. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Tennessee.
Speaker 12: Levis under center again, turns around, fakes a handoff to Pollard,
Speaker 12: wants to.
Speaker 9: Throw fires holder Stone bating it back.
Speaker 7: Gino's at the twenty five twenty battle in front to block.
Speaker 5: He's to the ten the five to the doll line, touchdown.
Speaker 13: Bendals Ginos Stone with a peck six and the Bengals
Speaker 13: have their fourth takeaway.
Speaker 9: Of the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know Joe Burrow, he's great in all
Speaker 1: but let's give the Bengals defense some love.
Speaker 5: Dan Horde, Dave Lapham, w c k Y.
Speaker 1: Will Levis I think had about thirteen fourteen dropbacks in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 5: He had four turnovers, so that's that's not a good thing.
Speaker 1: The Bengals get the victory thirty seven to twenty seven.
Speaker 5: They hold off a.
Speaker 1: Late rally by Mason Rudolph and they get to six
Speaker 1: and eight and they remain alive because of an opportunistic
Speaker 1: defense shook.
Speaker 6: How many turnovers qualifies for you to declare the game
Speaker 6: drunk because I have a number in my head and
Speaker 6: this game exceeded that number.
Speaker 7: Okay, ten total turnovers, no two teams.
Speaker 6: Every time you looked at the game, somebody was turning
Speaker 6: the ball over, and most of the time the criminal
Speaker 6: was Will Levis.
Speaker 7: He was the guy who was guilty of turning the
Speaker 7: ball over. He threw three picks.
Speaker 6: He had a great start, okay, and then he instantly
Speaker 6: just fell apart and he regressed dramatically to the Will
Speaker 6: Levis we knew prior to his recent stretch of relative success.
Speaker 6: Whereas and it gave the Bengals an opportunity defensively to
Speaker 6: actually build some steam because we know this Bengals defense
Speaker 6: has been maligned all year, right fully, so they haven't
Speaker 6: been able to stop nosably Will. They stopped the Titans
Speaker 6: on multiple possessions today. They were opportunistic. It allowed Joe
Speaker 6: Burrow to even shake off some of his interceptions because
Speaker 6: he threw a couple of those as well. And the
Speaker 6: Bengals outlast the Titans team that they're just better than
Speaker 6: on paper, and when it comes to the details in
Speaker 6: execution in a game, that it's worth the rewatch because
Speaker 6: it was just chaotic doesn't really say much about either team.
Speaker 1: Though, Okay, it's worth the rewatch, if only because of
Speaker 1: the Tovandre sweat fumble.
Speaker 5: Yeah, recovery. Let's listen to that second and.
Speaker 12: Gold at the nine, the firm looking stepping up in trouble.
Speaker 16: Shack, Oh, take it away. It's sweat coming the under
Speaker 16: one Skip Moore fifteen twenty twenty five, Sweat thirty thirty five.
Speaker 16: It is finally pushed out of mounts by Bolt sit
Speaker 16: at the forty. Titans get the quarterback sack. It's steal
Speaker 16: the ball.
Speaker 1: Great call there by Mike Keith and a yelp midplay
Speaker 1: by Dave McGinnis on WGFX. That is a three hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy pounds man at minimum, because that's what he's
Speaker 1: listed at, with a nasty stiff.
Speaker 5: Arm like he changed the ball like his hands. He
Speaker 5: he knew the assignment. That was amazing.
Speaker 1: They were up fourteen the seven, by the way at
Speaker 1: that point of the game and had just taken the
Speaker 1: ball away and.
Speaker 8: Mike Keith, you know, he's looking forward to saying touchdown
Speaker 8: Titans on the play, so he just said stiff arm.
Speaker 8: But this is Alex Kappa, the offensive lineman coming. This
Speaker 8: is a full grown man coming to make a tackle
Speaker 8: and Mike Keith maybe he's seen Derrick Henry do a
Speaker 8: lot of stiff arms and so he's seen the best
Speaker 8: ever to do it. But this was from Defandre Sweat,
Speaker 8: and I just love the reaction from the sideline. Yes,
Speaker 8: because Sweat, you know, clearly awful, awful mistake, you know,
Speaker 8: driving while intoxicated, didn't know if he was going to
Speaker 8: get drafted.
Speaker 9: The Titans believed in him.
Speaker 8: He's been embraced by the team, and you could just
Speaker 8: see the reaction from all of his teammates after that
Speaker 8: incredible play where they love that the man that he's
Speaker 8: become this season and making a play on that where
Speaker 8: it's just another one of these moments from this drunk
Speaker 8: football game that shook out the pleasure of watching, where
Speaker 8: it's like that that almost becomes a footnote to every
Speaker 8: thing that we saw in this game, with these teams
Speaker 8: going up and down the field offense and defense.
Speaker 1: Right Burrow, you mentioned like had had three turnovers in
Speaker 1: this game, so you know his his MVP candidacy to
Speaker 1: get on the ballot. It takes a little bit of
Speaker 1: a hit. A couple of turnovers last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: He did throw a touchdown though to Sam Hubbard, so
Speaker 1: he just like we didn't even mention that as part
Speaker 1: of the way.
Speaker 5: This game was drawn. Hubbard got hurt late in the game,
Speaker 5: but he said it was worth it.
Speaker 1: It felt good to be out there contribute to a
Speaker 1: win as an offensive weapon, Sam Hubbard.
Speaker 7: Yeah, true weapon.
Speaker 6: Like we haven't seen a weapon playing out of position
Speaker 6: since the days of Mike Vrabel with the Patriota. And
Speaker 6: this catch was tight end like top tier tight end worthy,
Speaker 6: a fantastic grab. And that's when I knew this game
Speaker 6: needed to be cut off. And that was long before
Speaker 6: it was over. A heck of a kind of a back,
Speaker 6: weird back and forth. But I will say this another
Speaker 6: example of how I knew this game was drunk Jordan
Speaker 6: Battle recovers a fubble, goes all the way back to
Speaker 6: the end zone and then loses the ball as he's
Speaker 6: crossing the goal line and fumbles it out of the
Speaker 6: back of the end zone. So there was another example
Speaker 6: actually in another game that we've yet to talk about too.
Speaker 6: I just thought about that off the stap my head.
Speaker 6: It's just been a crazy day guys.
Speaker 5: It really has.
Speaker 1: And if if you're a Bengals fan, I said, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get to that week seventeen, you're gonna be mathematically alive.
Speaker 5: You got the Browns next week. Just get to seven
Speaker 5: and eight.
Speaker 1: Just these games are a little more fun if you're
Speaker 1: not mathematically eliminated. The Titans long eliminated. They stayed in
Speaker 1: the top six. I'm looking at Tankathon. It's amazing that
Speaker 1: three and eleven only give gets you the six pick.
Speaker 1: Right now, the Browns are three and eleven and they
Speaker 1: have the seven pick. So you know they didn't they
Speaker 1: didn't change that today. But the Bengals got a victory.
Speaker 1: Let's go to a team which is is much more
Speaker 1: in the wild card race. Yes, the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 12: Pistol snap Murray has a handoff Connor, straight ahead touchdown,
Speaker 12: James Connor two touchdowns here on the fourth Cardinals extend
Speaker 12: their lead to twenty nine to ten with three twenty
Speaker 12: seven ago.
Speaker 9: Wind them up.
Speaker 13: If the pistol handed off, let James Connor just jump
Speaker 13: over the a gap touchdown.
Speaker 1: That is Dave Pash and our friend Ron wolf Lee.
Speaker 1: Some games don't really have like a great play or
Speaker 1: a highlight that.
Speaker 5: Makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: This was one of those games I watched it pretty closely.
Speaker 1: Thirty to seventeen Cardinals beat the Patriots in a game
Speaker 1: that wasn't that close. The Patriots get a couple touchdowns
Speaker 1: in garbage time to make it look better, but kind
Speaker 1: of a whole hum game for the Cardinals to get
Speaker 1: them to seven and seven. They ran the ball well,
Speaker 1: James Connor with one hundred and ten yards in two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray played mistake free football, wouldn't stay it. It
Speaker 1: made me feel like that much better about where their
Speaker 1: offense is at. They couldn't quite finish drive, settled for
Speaker 1: some field goals, but ultimately you win easily. A result
Speaker 1: like this almost just makes me think about Man, if
Speaker 1: they hadn't lost one of those close games against the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: things would have felt a little different.
Speaker 5: But they still are having an uphill battle in the division.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's so close that there were that third and
Speaker 8: seven against Sam Darnold and then Minnesota Vikings could have
Speaker 8: changed their postseason. And honestly, we may look back and
Speaker 8: that may have been one of the most consequential third
Speaker 8: downs that we've seen all season. Long, but Kyler comes
Speaker 8: back in this game twenty three to thirty. Did take
Speaker 8: a massive shot in this game. Clayton Tune came in
Speaker 8: and played a couple of possessions. But James Connor averaged
Speaker 8: almost seven yards of carry against this Patriots team, and
Speaker 8: there were some late I would say garbage down points
Speaker 8: from New England where this was. This was pretty much
Speaker 8: out of question for the Patriots with a lot of
Speaker 8: time remaining in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a great sign when your quarterback get
Speaker 1: goes into halftime without an incompletion. That's Drake may and
Speaker 1: you're losing thirteen to three. Like Drake, Drake may Can
Speaker 1: continues to somehow like set new boundaries of how totally solid,
Speaker 1: if not great, he looks.
Speaker 5: And he had his team's not even competitive.
Speaker 1: His one interception on the day, second time in three
Speaker 1: weeks this has happened, came off a drop of kish
Speaker 1: On booty. So it was like even the one box
Speaker 1: score problem that he had, he only had four incompletions
Speaker 1: two hundred yards came off a drop.
Speaker 8: A drop gives Kaishan Boody maybe too much credit there
Speaker 8: that the ball's like low and outside and Booty goes
Speaker 8: down to ranch it and instead of like the ball
Speaker 8: being dropped, he lifts it up.
Speaker 1: Yes, it kind of tosses it, but that was exactly
Speaker 1: what happened a couple of weeks ago too. Very strangely,
Speaker 1: it was like a play where his own receiver kind
Speaker 1: of threw it into the air. But look, Trey McBride
Speaker 1: goes nine for eighty seven.
Speaker 5: Shook.
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison could not get anything done on one on
Speaker 1: one matchups against Christian Gonzales, like Gonzales just shut him
Speaker 1: down like that. That was a little frustrating, I think
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals who kept going to that matchup in
Speaker 1: the red zone and Gonzalez just kept winning it over
Speaker 1: and over.
Speaker 5: But it keeps them alive.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't compare them totally to the Bengals that they're
Speaker 1: in a division where yes, the Rams got to eight
Speaker 1: and six here, but and they got swept by the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: so that's problematic. But there's still three weeks ago, potentially
Speaker 1: only one loss behind they are in the mix.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad you actually brought up the Marvin Harrison
Speaker 6: junior targets because I honestly think that as the Cardinals
Speaker 6: offense which struggles mightily on third down. I only went
Speaker 6: ten for fifteen today, but when it comes to third
Speaker 6: and long, it's a Kyler dropped back on a prayer
Speaker 6: most times, and it has been for most of the season.
Speaker 5: I think that the.
Speaker 6: Element that is missing they could really elevate this offense
Speaker 6: is the inclusion of Marvin Harrison Junior at an efficient rate.
Speaker 6: And the reason I bring that up is because, yes,
Speaker 6: Christian Gonzalez played great coverage on him, but Marvin Harrison
Speaker 6: Junior is a guy who is known for winning fifty
Speaker 6: to fifties winning jump balls in college. He's an artist
Speaker 6: when it comes to catching passes in the end zone,
Speaker 6: especially in the corner of the end zone, and he
Speaker 6: had two great looks at it, and Kyler doesn't put
Speaker 6: it in the right spot. So if I have a
Speaker 6: project for these Cardinals if they missed the playoffs, because
Speaker 6: they still you know, it's going to be a little
Speaker 6: bit rough here trying to get in there with the
Speaker 6: way the division is set. As you just described the
Speaker 6: project for them in the offseason, how do you get
Speaker 6: better Kyler and Marves and Harrison Junior figure out how
Speaker 6: to throw those balls to him?
Speaker 7: Because If they.
Speaker 6: Could do that, and they've done it in small spots
Speaker 6: this season, I think they would be so much better offensively.
Speaker 6: They're efectively like eliminating one of their best weapons on
Speaker 6: offense right now, and when the running game doesn't work,
Speaker 6: they're not going They're not playing well.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 7: The running game work. Today they played the Patriots and
Speaker 7: it all worked out for them and they win the game.
Speaker 7: But that's just where they need to be better. That's
Speaker 7: where they can take their next step.
Speaker 6: And it was frustrating to see that today against the
Speaker 6: Patriots team that you know you put thirty points on,
Speaker 6: but you probably could have won this by more.
Speaker 8: The best play for Marvin Harrison Junior today it was
Speaker 8: a twenty one yarder where they had him lined up
Speaker 8: in the slot, which is something they do. He was
Speaker 8: lined up in the slot ten times, but they were
Speaker 8: able to drag Marvin across the formation kind of get
Speaker 8: some new separation because Gonzales was on them there, but
Speaker 8: there was a lot of traffic to run through. Kyler
Speaker 8: hits him on the catch and run where That's what
Speaker 8: I've wanted, just more layup short opportunities for Marvin Harrison Junior,
Speaker 8: just to get him involved in the offense. So it's
Speaker 8: not all you know, deep balls to the corner and
Speaker 8: back shoulder throws where it's like this high degree of
Speaker 8: difficulty where yeah, you can do that when you have
Speaker 8: a top ten draft pick who has all the talent
Speaker 8: in the world, but also let's just get them the ball.
Speaker 8: Like all these balls to Jamar Chase aren't necessarily like
Speaker 8: high difficulty throws. Some of them are very simple, close
Speaker 8: to the lawne of scrimmage where I would like to
Speaker 8: see Marvin involved in more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they feel better. They were, they were on along
Speaker 1: losing streak. They won easy, They beat up on a
Speaker 1: bad team. I think this is a very worrisome result
Speaker 1: for Drod Mayo coming out of a bye week and
Speaker 1: you looked worse.
Speaker 5: You had no answers.
Speaker 1: Defensively, the offensive line was crazy bad early in this
Speaker 1: game in terms of the penalties and a bad snap
Speaker 1: and just giving up free rushers. It looked like they
Speaker 1: had made no progress at all. There were some reports
Speaker 1: over the weekend from the athletic that they are that
Speaker 1: they are committed to Drod Mayo, and I believe it,
Speaker 1: but a performance like this makes you wonder certainly about
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and Alex van Pelt not not progressing
Speaker 1: or improving as the season's gone along, and we really
Speaker 1: haven't seen that. After the game, they asked Drod Mayo
Speaker 1: about a sequentz where they got down inside the five
Speaker 1: yard line and they got it to third and one
Speaker 1: and they ran at two straight times and they couldn't
Speaker 1: pick up a yard, which is the story of this
Speaker 1: Patriots season. But someone asked them about not using Drake
Speaker 1: may at all, which they really haven't as a runner
Speaker 1: in the red zone all season, and they said, you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen may is such so effective as a runner,
Speaker 1: how come you know not using him there? And Gid
Speaker 1: Mayo said, you said it, not me, which doesn't bode
Speaker 1: well for Alex van Pelt either, speaking of his coaching
Speaker 1: staffs that have been in a little trouble this year.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Jacksonville, which was a fun game. Either one,
Speaker 1: I mean one's gone and the other one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go in.
Speaker 12: Motion from left to right, those Isaiah Davis Rogers back
Speaker 12: to throw well protected fires one up the sea from Adams.
Speaker 3: At not the twenty ten five spins, heads up touchdown,
Speaker 3: It's a jet touchdown. A fun day Adams streaks down
Speaker 3: the middle and Aaron Rodgers puts it right in his
Speaker 3: hands and the Jets happily three twenty four to go.
Speaker 1: The Jets go on to win thirty two to twenty five.
Speaker 1: Fun to hear a little Bob was shus in on
Speaker 1: WAXQ having a little fun.
Speaker 5: Why not.
Speaker 1: It's been a tough season and when you can watch
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams go nine for one, ninety eight and two
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a throwback performance, I mean he and Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers put this team on their backs. In the second half.
Speaker 1: Adams was physical, he was awesome, and they stop a
Speaker 1: late bid from Mac Jones. A lot happened actually after
Speaker 1: that play, because that made it twenty five to twenty two.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars did respond tie the game of the field goal.
Speaker 1: The Jets have another quick touchdown drive which DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: really set up Priests Hall and then finally Mac Jones
Speaker 1: throws the interception to Sass Gardner. Jets get the victory,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if we have many big takeaways
Speaker 1: from this game other than Aaron Rodgers is playing his
Speaker 1: best football at the very end of the season, which
Speaker 1: is going to help his chances of getting a good
Speaker 1: job next year or getting a starting job.
Speaker 5: That's what I believe. Does anyone care to disagree with me?
Speaker 7: No, he where's the job going to be?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Somewhere.
Speaker 7: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: He moved.
Speaker 1: I thought he's moved much better over the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. You know, the matchups helped DeVante wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been as open maybe against some other teams. But Rogers
Speaker 1: has looked good. There's no point in like pushing back
Speaker 1: from the tape. He's looked pretty good. He's definitely looked
Speaker 1: the best that he's looked the last three weeks in
Speaker 1: terms of movement, in terms of ball placement, and he
Speaker 1: actually could have had a bigger day if Davante started
Speaker 1: off the game kind of slow. He had a couple drops.
Speaker 1: One would have been a tough catch, but it would
Speaker 1: have been a big play. Another one was a flat
Speaker 1: out drop. And I'm thinking, man, is the years catching
Speaker 1: up to DeVante because he had a quiet first half
Speaker 1: and then the second half he's.
Speaker 9: Just Yeah, he was one hundred ninety eight yards in
Speaker 9: the second half. Oh my god for DeVante Adams.
Speaker 8: That's and essentially you get to one thirty and he
Speaker 8: has the fifty plus yarder where if he gets in
Speaker 8: the end zone, he's even two hundred yards there and
Speaker 8: three touchdowns in this game for the Jets, where you're
Speaker 8: you're getting essentially outdueled by mac Jones during large portions
Speaker 8: of the game before Davante kind of wakes up and
Speaker 8: you know, mac Jones eventually regresses and throws an easy
Speaker 8: interception to Sauce Gardner to close the game out where
Speaker 8: he's back pedaling backwards. But yeah, Aaron Rodgers is good.
Speaker 8: He's incredibly annoying to hear him talk about literally anything. Yes,
Speaker 8: but he deserves a starting job somewhere and he's going
Speaker 8: to get a lot of attention. He's going to be
Speaker 8: on TV every week. But all that being said, he's
Speaker 8: not the worst part of this team.
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 1: They are terrible in these one score games, and they
Speaker 1: finally found a team that was even worse. The Jaguars
Speaker 1: have lost eight games by one score this year. They're
Speaker 1: two and eight in those games, so most of their
Speaker 1: games are close. If you get twenty five points and
Speaker 1: you get mac Jones to lead you to more than
Speaker 1: four hundred yards like usually you would, that's gotta.
Speaker 5: Be good enough.
Speaker 1: It's a bad sign for the Jets defense that they
Speaker 1: were letting Mac Jones clown them on the ground for
Speaker 1: much of the game. He had twenty nine yards on
Speaker 1: the ground. He who is the guy Sherwood for the Jets.
Speaker 1: That Mac Jones actually pulled like a Madden spin move
Speaker 1: on him in the open field and sent the linebacker
Speaker 1: just flying by him. And I was like, wow, that
Speaker 1: is That's gonna be a tough moment in the film room,
Speaker 1: especially after win.
Speaker 5: Now you can have a little fun with it. The
Speaker 5: Jets can.
Speaker 1: But they outlasted him in a shootout thirty two to
Speaker 1: twenty five to go to four and ten, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I was talking about Tankathon. With that win, the Jets
Speaker 1: fall all the way to number eight. Jaguars right now
Speaker 1: at number four Patriots, who we just talked about at
Speaker 1: number three, but is very tightly bunched that it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if the Jets win another game here down
Speaker 1: the stretch. All right, we're going to say goodbye to
Speaker 1: our friend Patrick Claybond. How are you feeling today just
Speaker 1: about life, about football, about NFL daily and your contribution
Speaker 1: to it overall.
Speaker 8: Fortunate to exist in this universe, where existing is decidedly
Speaker 8: not an option in any number of capacities. I'm here
Speaker 8: and I'm amongst friends, and we got to watch football today,
Speaker 8: including Tim Boyle. The more hair raising, conspiracy laden ideas
Speaker 8: Tim Boyle is still starting football games.
Speaker 9: Yeah, coming up next week.
Speaker 1: Starting existence also not guaranteed, like we as Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: is you is want to point out it's true, we
Speaker 1: hope you're back next week.
Speaker 5: It's not guaranteed. I shouldn't put that out.
Speaker 9: It's short.
Speaker 1: I just made Eric very uncomfortable. Fact there, don't worry.
Speaker 9: If you're listening to this knock on wood, you know
Speaker 9: somebody you know, things could go wrong.
Speaker 1: That's I bet more you just maybe maybe there's a
Speaker 1: power outage or something like that, and we can't here.
Speaker 1: Nick Schuck's gonna rejoin me for Sunday night football. But
Speaker 1: when we come back from the break, we're actually going
Speaker 1: to talk to our friend Kevin Patra for.
Speaker 5: A couple of games.
Speaker 8: See that. This is it.
Speaker 5: Two point diversion.
Speaker 9: Rattler's in the gun. Jamal Williams is the best in motion.
Speaker 9: LaRue just scored the touchdown.
Speaker 8: Rattler, rolla, you was right, look a fiery throws black Blain.
Speaker 5: Washington went twenty to nineteen.
Speaker 9: Whoa drink?
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Speaker 1: The Saints somehow got the game down to a situation
Speaker 1: where they went for two with no time remaining on
Speaker 1: the clock to win the game.
Speaker 5: It just didn't happen for him. Washington wins twenty to nineteen.
Speaker 1: And yes, our friend Kevin Patra is back on the
Speaker 1: show from Detroit and on a day Patra we were
Speaker 1: just talking about it where there weren't many close games.
Speaker 1: You got the best end number, So congratulations for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happened there?
Speaker 17: The agenda is back on Baby Okay, Well, the I
Speaker 17: mean the first half was really dull.
Speaker 5: It was pretty dull.
Speaker 17: Jake Hayner was It felt like it was like in
Speaker 17: high school and the varsity team's quarterback got suspended for
Speaker 17: a half, so they called up the jv quarterback to
Speaker 17: play the first half, and then they got the real
Speaker 17: quarterback in for the second half and they started making place.
Speaker 17: As soon as Rattler came in at halftime, the offense
Speaker 17: got jumped started and he made plays. He credited him
Speaker 17: the last time I mean, it was stats weren't great.
Speaker 17: He had forty seven percent completion percentage. He missed some throws,
Speaker 17: but considering you know, Alvin Kamara went out with the
Speaker 17: groin injury and who throwing two? But he he made mvs,
Speaker 17: made a couple of new big plays and he marched
Speaker 17: him right down the field with the game on the line.
Speaker 17: And I thought it was the right call for Rizzy
Speaker 17: to go for two because in overtime, if you're you know,
Speaker 17: you don't have less talent, you know, I would rather
Speaker 17: go down to one play. And he had been on
Speaker 17: such a hot streak on that drive that I thought
Speaker 17: it was a smart smart move didn't work out for him,
Speaker 17: but smart move, especially given their season.
Speaker 1: Yes, Cedric Wilson ends up with a passing touchdown on
Speaker 1: a great trap.
Speaker 9: It was a beautiful pass.
Speaker 1: Here's a really good throw on a twenty ward yard throw.
Speaker 1: But Ratler gets a touchdown to one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: five yards. And yes, you mentioned the agenda, which was
Speaker 1: a bubbling subplot in Saints Twitter and on NFL Daily
Speaker 1: to get Rattler into the lineup. And you do wonder
Speaker 1: if he's going to be the quarterback the rest of
Speaker 1: the way, or do they try to bring Derek Carr back.
Speaker 1: Just let's put a pin in that for a second,
Speaker 1: because that decision at the end of the game by Rizzy,
Speaker 1: I think it's the right move. It's disappointing for Rizzy,
Speaker 1: who's trying to pull off a Hail Mary to you know,
Speaker 1: remain their head coach going into next year. And it
Speaker 1: reminds me of the first time this ever happened, which
Speaker 1: is do you remember it the first time an NFL
Speaker 1: head coach ever went for two at the end of
Speaker 1: the game to win the game. No, it was John
Speaker 1: Gruden and the Bucks. Because you know, I'm old enough
Speaker 1: I remember when there weren't two point conversions, like it
Speaker 1: wasn't a thing, and it was such a big deal.
Speaker 1: The first time ever that a team went for two
Speaker 1: at the end to win it. John Gruden did it
Speaker 1: as a coach of the Bucks and they did win
Speaker 1: the game. I think it was like two thousand and five.
Speaker 1: It was late period Gruden with the Bucks, but they
Speaker 1: got it done. Unfortunately that wasn't the case. And it's
Speaker 1: a good thing for the Commanders because this would have
Speaker 1: been a nasty loss. I gotta admit I stopped paying
Speaker 1: attention to this game when it was twenty to seven
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Just felt pretty over, like what
Speaker 1: happened here? And are you concerned at all about the commanders?
Speaker 17: No, because Jaden Daniels once again proved he's the offensive
Speaker 17: rood the year. There's no doubt in my mind about that.
Speaker 17: If there was any before for anyone, he's He commanded
Speaker 17: the offense with a plumb early. They jumped out to
Speaker 17: a big lead, but they had issues on the offensive line.
Speaker 17: Not having Tyler Biattish out there was huge. He got
Speaker 17: sacked eight times. You could just see the offensive line
Speaker 17: was just a mess without the center, like you know,
Speaker 17: having you know, control over who, what the protections were
Speaker 17: and such. I'm not sure how much Daniels is involved
Speaker 17: in that sort of thing with Cliff Kingsbury, but that
Speaker 17: the pressure was an issue and they kind of just
Speaker 17: took their foot off the gas. It really felt like
Speaker 17: the offense got a little laccadaisical there until the end,
Speaker 17: and then they pulled off a field goal drive to
Speaker 17: just give themselves enough wiggle room till they didn't burn it.
Speaker 17: But Jayden Daniels, I mean, he made so many like
Speaker 17: ridiculous darts over in the middle, that anticipatory throws. But
Speaker 17: that's who you want to see. And he used his legs.
Speaker 17: He was their leading rusher. They couldn't get anything going
Speaker 17: on the ground, which I mean the Saints defense is
Speaker 17: no slouch. There might be dismissed by a lot, but
Speaker 17: there's still a good defense up front. Run They're fine.
Speaker 17: And they ended with eight sacks today. Now they only
Speaker 17: had six quarterback hits, which is crazy.
Speaker 5: So compare that.
Speaker 1: Let's say to the Chiefs game, sacks are a quarterback
Speaker 1: stat in a little bit. You know, Mahomes guy hit
Speaker 1: twelve times trying to make plays happen. Daniel's only guy
Speaker 1: hit six times and ends up taking eight sacks.
Speaker 5: A couple of those. The reasons the difference is he
Speaker 5: goes out of bounds, right.
Speaker 17: Half of them were on the quarterback and half of
Speaker 17: them were on I'm messy offensive line issue.
Speaker 5: Okay, So let's talk about the controversy. At the end
Speaker 5: of the game.
Speaker 1: And I'm watching this game the ending sequence in the newsroom.
Speaker 1: Generally I'm at the desk patra, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the game, I walk over to the Jeremy Bergman
Speaker 1: David Ealy, you know, section of the newsroom to watch
Speaker 1: the end, so we're all like a line. You don't
Speaker 1: hear someone spoiling the player or anything. And I'm watching
Speaker 1: the end of this game, and both Bergman and I
Speaker 1: are like, did the clock stop there for a second?
Speaker 1: Because you're watching the watching them race up to it.
Speaker 1: They got a first down the Saints did with on
Speaker 1: a play with just a handful of seconds to go.
Speaker 1: They snapped it with seventeen seconds left. It was fourth
Speaker 1: and three. They throw the ball to Foster Morrow down
Speaker 1: to the one yard line, and it seemed for a
Speaker 1: second that like the clock stop, and I thought it
Speaker 1: did absolutely do Yeah, I thought it was only for
Speaker 1: a second. After the game, they they were asked about it,
Speaker 1: they had to have a pool report. Hockey Lely said
Speaker 1: the covering official mistakenly stopped the clock. In that situation,
Speaker 1: the clock should not have been stopped. We have Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn also asked about it after the game.
Speaker 5: Did you get stop?
Speaker 10: I don't, And I am absolutely taking the high road
Speaker 10: right now, Dave about that. I saw a quick video
Speaker 10: of that, and so I will wait from the response
Speaker 10: from New York. But those three seconds are critical man,
Speaker 10: let's just say that, yeah, we're on to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't say I'm gonna take the high
Speaker 1: road and then just then you got to go out
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: It's fine. I don't know if the game would have ended.
Speaker 5: It was giffy. It was close.
Speaker 1: So Patrick Claybonn, who who's left the studio, did do
Speaker 1: an unofficial stopwatch of it. He believes there probably would
Speaker 1: have been one second, last second that that it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been the difference. So it is one of those
Speaker 1: bald don't lie situations, perhaps, or at least for us.
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that that's not the story of the
Speaker 1: game because the Commanders are in the middle of a
Speaker 1: playoff race here and if that had cost.
Speaker 5: Them a win, it would have been brutal. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, there's something about this Commanders team.
Speaker 1: They don't have many quality wins really any No, this.
Speaker 17: What this one was important because I think they go
Speaker 17: to Philly next week and they need there's a couple
Speaker 17: teams snipping at their heels. They absolutely, one hundred percent
Speaker 17: needed to come out with us a win. If that
Speaker 17: two point conversion had hit, I think they spiral out.
Speaker 17: I don't think they make the playof at all.
Speaker 5: That's brutal.
Speaker 1: They do have the Falcons after the Eagles, so they
Speaker 1: have two home games Eagles then Falcons, than at Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And yeah, if they can't pull off the upset against
Speaker 1: the Eagles, they're officially eliminated, of course from the division.
Speaker 1: But then that Falcons game looms really large, and then
Speaker 1: those NFC West teams can think, maybe we could sneak
Speaker 1: a second team into the playoffs. But a big one
Speaker 1: win that they got it done. Even if there's some
Speaker 1: concern here with the offensive line and the running game
Speaker 1: and even the defense giving up a drive late to
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler, they come away with it.
Speaker 5: Let's go to.
Speaker 1: Carolina now, Patra Cooper Rush, he's part of the new
Speaker 1: Triplets in Dallas.
Speaker 4: First and ten at the Carolina seventeen turpin in motion
Speaker 4: from right to left, Schnapter Rush looking left, looking looking
Speaker 4: standing now rolling outside the right scramble. Drill throws it
Speaker 4: in the end on the ball is caught by Jalen
Speaker 4: Rocks for a touchdown.
Speaker 5: Oh about that.
Speaker 1: Break up the Cowboys offense, Yeah, that's Brad Sham on
Speaker 1: k RLD. Cowboys get it done as road underdogs thirty
Speaker 1: to fourteen. Rush throws for three touchdowns two hundred and
Speaker 1: fourteen yards. Rico Daddle goes for one forty nine. He's
Speaker 1: at he's at like three hundred and eighty yards. He's
Speaker 1: winen fantasy leagues over the last three weeks. And Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb goes nine for one to sixteen despite playing with
Speaker 1: his backup quarterbacks, they cruise. I can't believe the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I know they were playing the Panthers, but they went
Speaker 1: over four hundred yards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they did.
Speaker 17: I thought it Rico'donnnell since he's since Mike McCarthy's just
Speaker 17: given him the ball and let him be the lead
Speaker 17: back as opposed to all this messing with Zeke and
Speaker 17: Cook and all that noise. They've they've really become an
Speaker 17: offense that at least they can move the chains. And rico'
Speaker 17: dondal he doesn't have many explosive runs a long as
Speaker 17: like twelve, but he can keep you in down in distances.
Speaker 17: And then Cooper Rush he had a really bad fumble
Speaker 17: and the half and that was like the only half
Speaker 17: part of the game where you thought the Panthers might
Speaker 17: have a chance. They bombed an eighty three yard touchdown.
Speaker 17: But after that, the Cowboys just took care of business.
Speaker 17: It was lamb and Dawdle Lamban Dawdle, Lambon Daddle basically
Speaker 17: all down the field and Cooper Rush didn't throw any
Speaker 17: picks and he managed the game like he does. And
Speaker 17: I thought the defense finally played like their front can play.
Speaker 17: Parsons and o'diggy Zoo dominated. They had six sacks all
Speaker 17: in the second half, not the two of them, but
Speaker 17: the Cowboys. I mean, they were going against a not
Speaker 17: good Carolina offensive line, but they controlled the ballgame up front,
Speaker 17: and they messed with Bryce Young.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How concerning a performance was this for Bryce Young? He
Speaker 1: lost two fumbles, had two interceptions, so four turnovers overall.
Speaker 1: I saw some impressive plays by him, but they've been
Speaker 1: stacking it positive. I think losing by sixteen to this
Speaker 1: Cowboys team is disappointing and it is a reminder the
Speaker 1: final story of this Bryce aissance will be written after
Speaker 1: week eighteen, and so the next three weeks are going
Speaker 1: to be important for him.
Speaker 5: You don't want to stack performances like this.
Speaker 9: Right right?
Speaker 17: I thought in my assessment was it obviously was a
Speaker 17: downslope in the roller coaster that's been his thing after
Speaker 17: you know, three weeks of going up the track. So
Speaker 17: I think you kind of expect that this team is
Speaker 17: still lacking talent. They still have questions on the old line.
Speaker 17: They didn't get anything from the running game today, which
Speaker 17: has been their bread and butter and helped open up
Speaker 17: the play action passing. And you know, still they still
Speaker 17: have some deficits that pass catcher and Bryce made his
Speaker 17: first interception. I mean Greg Olsen did a perfect job
Speaker 17: explaining why he went to the wrong target. He tried
Speaker 17: to force it to feel in and he had a
Speaker 17: wide open tight end on the outside and he should
Speaker 17: have just hit that slant. But he had some poor
Speaker 17: decisions that were reminiscent of release season Bryce. But he splashes.
Speaker 17: He's splashed in some big plays and some key plays
Speaker 17: that make you think that he can still do it, don't.
Speaker 17: I wasn't completely dejected as as we thought early in
Speaker 17: a season like Week one and two when he was
Speaker 17: really bad. It was an up and down game, and
Speaker 17: I think we should expect those from a second year
Speaker 17: quarterback with so few starts. Every once in a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hit that eighty three yard or to Cocer
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. So good to get the other rookie
Speaker 1: going there, Jalen Cocher. But a disappointing game. It it's
Speaker 1: crazy to me that the Cowboys are six and eight.
Speaker 1: They just don't feel like they have the same record
Speaker 1: as let's say, the Bengals or the Dolphins or the Colts.
Speaker 1: But neither of these teams are eliminated. Somehow, no teams
Speaker 1: that played on Sunday were eliminated. The Panthers are actually
Speaker 1: still technically alive. I don't know how that works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how does that work in the NFC?
Speaker 17: So everybody ties and they keep winning some hig I don't.
Speaker 9: Know, something like that.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys are still alive technically for the wild card.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned some bad decisions out of Bryce young man.
Speaker 1: We made some bad decisions on Wednesday.
Speaker 5: Play the music, Eric. It was quite a run this.
Speaker 1: Podcast, Kevin was on in terms of our survivor picks.
Speaker 1: In some controversy early in the season, once we all
Speaker 1: joined forces. We had been going for twelve straight weeks
Speaker 1: here thirteen straight weeks, and we got a little over
Speaker 1: our skis going Panthers. We hadn't picked the Panthers to
Speaker 1: win even a single game between Patrick buy all season,
Speaker 1: and we picked them to win. To apologies to everyone
Speaker 1: who was following along and especially to Steve Wis. She
Speaker 1: wasn't there to stop us from doing this. I apologize
Speaker 1: forgetting on board. Yes, the Cowboys season is still alive. Patra,
Speaker 1: fun to have you back on the show. The Beard
Speaker 1: to go Tea. It's looking great, the voice sounding great.
Speaker 1: Have a great holiday. If we don't talk to you before.
Speaker 9: Appreciate it. Yep.
Speaker 17: Have a merry Christmas to everyone, and happy Honika.
Speaker 1: Look at that Kevin Patrack come in at you back
Speaker 1: on NFL Daily. Let's go to Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 5: In the shotgun is love.
Speaker 12: Chris Brooks to his left, third down and five snapped
Speaker 12: to love, has time.
Speaker 13: Ms on for dub dubbing grab touchdown? What a play,
Speaker 13: what a flo What a catch Romeo dubbs.
Speaker 1: Wayne Laravie on WR and W Yes that great grab
Speaker 1: by Romeo dops.
Speaker 5: It seems like his his only grabs are great.
Speaker 1: What a pair of hands on that guy go three
Speaker 1: for forty but gets two touchdowns on the game thirty
Speaker 1: to thirteen.
Speaker 5: The Packers win.
Speaker 1: It really completes a theme of the day shook a
Speaker 1: lot of important games, a lot of great performances, not
Speaker 1: a lot of close games, and a lot of key injuries.
Speaker 1: We will get to Gino Smith leaving this one and
Speaker 1: what that's gonna mean for the NFC West race, but
Speaker 1: let's give the Packers their flowers. Their offense came out
Speaker 1: like gangbusters in the first half and ultimately did enough
Speaker 1: defensively so that they didn't have to sweat it late.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a couple of long scoring drives earlyer. This is
Speaker 6: a game that had a lot of like pretty long
Speaker 6: possessions on both sides. Like you look at the first
Speaker 6: four possessions for the Packers in the first half, they
Speaker 6: go touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field goal, and every possession
Speaker 6: was except for the last one, more than three and
Speaker 6: a half minutes. And then the Seahawks were kind of
Speaker 6: similar too, only difference was the score. And then, you know,
Speaker 6: just as things started to get interesting in the second half,
Speaker 6: that's when Gino exits with what has been reported to
Speaker 6: be a knee injury.
Speaker 7: He was questionable to return.
Speaker 6: You could tell by the images on the sideline that
Speaker 6: he was not going to come back, and that kind
Speaker 6: of sucked the juice out of it for the Seahawks
Speaker 6: like it. From then on, you could pretty much tell
Speaker 6: the Packers were the better team tonight, probably the better
Speaker 6: team overall, and they were gonna finish off a victory
Speaker 6: that they had very much earned while you know, still taling,
Speaker 6: you know, under four hundred yards, but a solid offensive
Speaker 6: night with booed by a strong start and a strong finish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ultimately, I'm not going to ding them too much
Speaker 1: for playing with their food in the second half, especially
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. They they had a little four drive
Speaker 1: run there in the fourth quarter where it was two
Speaker 1: three and outs, a fumble and then a turnover on
Speaker 1: downs on a really short drive for the Packers because
Speaker 1: they started so well, like they came out with intent
Speaker 1: that first drive that was all Josh Jacob's huge holes.
Speaker 1: This Seattle run defense had been better in recent weeks.
Speaker 1: The Packers, who are known for their offensive line and
Speaker 1: their running game, their best was better than what had
Speaker 1: been Seattle's best over the last few weeks on their defense.
Speaker 1: And the second drive, you know, that throw that Jordan
Speaker 1: Love had to Christian Watson down the sidelines was fantastic.
Speaker 1: Did they get a couple touchdown drives, a couple of
Speaker 1: field goal drives. They score on all four possessions, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, going into halftime, mat Gino must
Speaker 1: be playing terribly and not really. The game was fourteen
Speaker 1: to three or fourteen to zero rather, and they'd only
Speaker 1: run four plays on offense Seattle. And then he makes
Speaker 1: a number of nice throws. He's under a lot of
Speaker 1: quick pressure, and he makes the big mistake of the
Speaker 1: night after a long drive, that interception where the two
Speaker 1: routes were two condensed in the red zone, he gets
Speaker 1: picked off. That's that's the only third possession that they
Speaker 1: have and they end up going to halftime. It felt
Speaker 1: like the game was over. Then add injury to insult.
Speaker 1: He gets hurt on a play where he gets hit low.
Speaker 1: They don't throw the flag because of a rule that
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you had to have your feet
Speaker 1: on the ground for it to count as a penalty.
Speaker 1: And that injury could end the Seahawks season if Gino
Speaker 1: can't get back on the field, because we saw tonight
Speaker 1: Sam Howell is unplayable. He had seventeen dropbacks. They had
Speaker 1: under one yard per play. On those dropbacks, he had
Speaker 1: twenty four yards passing and interception, took three sacks and
Speaker 1: it was just over once he entered the game. With
Speaker 1: all the extra possessions they got because their defense played
Speaker 1: better in the second half, maybe they could have come
Speaker 1: back in this game if Gino was out there, but
Speaker 1: they were done otherwise. And I don't want to take
Speaker 1: anything away from the Packers because their defense got after
Speaker 1: Gino pretty well when he was out there. The quick
Speaker 1: pressure rate they noted was over twenty percent when Gino
Speaker 1: was in the game, which is extremely high for pressure
Speaker 1: under two and a half second. So the Packers with
Speaker 1: Eddrian Cooper with Kenny Clark, like their defense has had
Speaker 1: better moments lately. As long as they're not playing the Lions,
Speaker 1: they look pretty good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And first off, Edge Cooper, that was one of
Speaker 6: my favorite guys at the Combine made the All Combine team,
Speaker 6: and I'm glad to see him succeeding in the back
Speaker 6: half of the season. He is a stud, He's a
Speaker 6: missile as a linebacker, and he saw a lot of
Speaker 6: it tonight. And the ball skills, you know, picking off
Speaker 6: how in this game to essentially salted away. But yeah,
Speaker 6: as soon as you saw saw Sam Howel the field
Speaker 6: what you saw was a guy who clearly hadn't played
Speaker 6: since last season, and the rust was there, the lack
Speaker 6: of internal clock was there. Like he was just slow
Speaker 6: to decide, hesitant to throw, which is not who he
Speaker 6: was in Washington. He let it rip plenty when he
Speaker 6: was in Washington. Was afraid to throw essentially back there.
Speaker 7: And that allowed the Packers defense to pin their ears back.
Speaker 6: Kingsley and bar I got in there, Cooper got in
Speaker 6: there like no matter who it was, a number of
Speaker 6: different guys got after him, and like I said, it
Speaker 6: took the life out of the Seahawks. They had no
Speaker 6: shot coming back because this game was very much, you know,
Speaker 6: it was for the taking because the Packers offense hit
Speaker 6: a lot. Like Jacobs gets to halftime, for example, they
Speaker 6: had that strong first half. He gets to halftime with
Speaker 6: fourteen for seventy three and a touchdown. His next twelve
Speaker 6: carries he gets twenty one yards total. And that's not
Speaker 6: a knock on him, it's just kind of the description
Speaker 6: of the game script and the flow of the game
Speaker 6: and what happened. And yet the Packers still pull away
Speaker 6: because they are a team filled with pros coached by
Speaker 6: a pro who was highlighted in the second half, and
Speaker 6: it's a nice win for them on the road and
Speaker 6: we'll see where it takes them here, Whereas Seahawks fan's
Speaker 6: gonna be keeping their fingers crossed because if they get bad.
Speaker 7: News on Gino, this season's gonna go up and smoke
Speaker 7: real quick.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 5: They are now eight and six.
Speaker 1: The Rams are in first place in the division, although
Speaker 1: it's tied technically, but the Rams have the tiebreaker because
Speaker 1: they beat Seattle head to head. Those two teams face
Speaker 1: each other in week eighteen. Now I've been assuming that
Speaker 1: game's gonna be for the division title. You lose Geno here,
Speaker 1: you're not that competitive against the Packers.
Speaker 5: If you're a Seahawks fan, you have to be worried.
Speaker 1: Will they be down two games going into that Will
Speaker 1: they have a chance to compete in the division. You
Speaker 1: have Minnesota coming in next week, and then you're at
Speaker 1: Chicago on Thursday Night football the day after Christmas. I
Speaker 1: can't believe they're doing Thursday Night football the day after
Speaker 1: having two Christmas games. That sort of I miss that
Speaker 1: somewhere along the way. And so that Bears game might
Speaker 1: be a must win for Seattle, but worrisome because they
Speaker 1: also lost their center Oloatami, who had helped out their
Speaker 1: offensive line, and the offensive line did not play as
Speaker 1: well today, Like I said, giving up a lot of
Speaker 1: quick pressures. Given a lot of love to your boy Cooper,
Speaker 1: who their defense is just different when he's out there.
Speaker 1: He has not been out there for them. He is
Speaker 1: their best linebacker and he is a rookie. I really
Speaker 1: have noticed that Kenny Clark has played better lately. Their
Speaker 1: four man rush is getting there, and the Packers occupy
Speaker 1: this really strange space where they're awesome. They're ten and
Speaker 1: four right and they're almost playing for nothing the rest
Speaker 1: of the way, like they can't win their division. I
Speaker 1: mean they could, but they're almost certainly not going to
Speaker 1: down two games and they're probably just stuck in that
Speaker 1: sixth spot. But the NBC telecast showed a great graphic
Speaker 1: that their opponent's winning percentage in terms of their losses
Speaker 1: is the highest in NFL history because they've only lost
Speaker 1: the teams that are either eleven and two or twelve
Speaker 1: and two. I mean, it's incredible. So they're just kind
Speaker 1: of gearing up for the playoffs. They know they're almost
Speaker 1: certainly going to be on the road for three games,
Speaker 1: and Seattle's loss just opens the door just a little bit.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are there at seven and seven and think, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe we do have more of a path. According to
Speaker 1: next Gen stats, Cardinals are up to thirteen percent to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. The Packers, by the way, if you're curious,
Speaker 1: are at ninety nine over ninety nine percent, but not
Speaker 1: technically in this game actually clinched the playoffs for the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, So that was the only clinching in the
Speaker 1: NFC today other than the Chicago Bears were officially eliminated.
Speaker 5: But we're not eliminated. Shook, We've got no, We've got
Speaker 5: a long way to go.
Speaker 1: We got a Monday night double header to talk about
Speaker 1: tomorrow night.
Speaker 6: Excited about that, just yeah, I mean, just when I
Speaker 6: thought that there were no more of those left in
Speaker 6: the calendar, here that come. So we're ready for geared up,
Speaker 6: ready to go. Two games one night, Me and Greg
Speaker 6: doing it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and two teams that are in the playoff race,
Speaker 1: fighting for seeding in terms of the Vikings and fighting
Speaker 1: just to stay alive in terms of the Falcons.
Speaker 5: So we will have you covered there on Monday night.
Speaker 1: And yeah, like I said, weird game, like we'd day important, right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, weird. Almost no close games. Texans was kind
Speaker 1: of close. The Washington game was close Jets, and that's it.
Speaker 1: The rest like we're getting separation. Look when the late
Speaker 1: season games, when they're running out of them, you know
Speaker 1: football is back.
Speaker 5: They didn't have it, didn't have it.