1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily. We're a thousand yards of offense 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: is light work. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Wesleyan podcast studio after an important Week fifteen slate with 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: my friend Patrick Clayban. Nick Shook is in Cleveland and 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: so much felt like it was decided on this Sunday 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: that I'm not wasting any time. We are going right 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: to Detroit where it was a massive effort by those Bills. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: One receiver to the left, three to the right, Cook 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: to the right of Allen on the shotgun, play clock 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: down to seven, the other hand off to Cook through 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: a Holt darts to the middle of the field thirty 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: twenty five twenty still. 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: On his feet, ten five, and Cook is in for 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: the touchdown. 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: His second rushing touchdown of the game goes forty one yards. 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: That was James Cook on the ground, one of his 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: two rushing touchdowns. Josh Allen added another couple on the ground, 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: another couple through the air, and the Bills won forty 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: eight to forty two in a game that could have 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: major repercussions with both home field advantage races. Nick Shook, 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: you watched this game closely, and I just thought from 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: the very first drive. Josh Allen said, that game that 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I had against the Rams, I was just getting warmed up. 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: He did it. 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Again, And as much as the Lions tried to like 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: make this a game, it was. 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 5: Never really a game. 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe that the Bills just ran through the 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Lions like that. 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, consider that game in La last week to be 31 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 6: the prelude to what we saw from the Bills today, 32 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 6: which was an offensive explosion. 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 7: I characterize it like this in the What we Learned 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 7: what you can find in NFL dot com. 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 6: The Bills rolled into Detroit and open palm smacked the 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 6: Lions in the mouth twice. 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: They said, we don't care. 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 7: This is Ford Field. 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 6: We don't catch you wearing your snazzy black uniforms that 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 6: your fans are raucous and it's hostile here. We're coming 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 6: in here and making a statement, which is that the 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 6: points that we put up last week just a precursor 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 6: to what we're about to do to you today. I 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 6: felt like they commanded this game from their first two drives. 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 6: They went two straight touchdown drives. They made a statement 46 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 6: from the beginning and then rolled all the way to 47 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 6: the end. And it was also an unfortunate sign that 48 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 6: the Detroit defense that has taken so many hits on 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 6: the injury front may be a serious concern for the Lions, 50 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 6: who are among the NFC favorites. But hoole, buddy, that 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 6: looks like a weakness after what happened today. 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get to that in a second. 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: But I thought the first drive of the game was 54 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: so telling, Like the Lions went three and out, And 55 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to fault the Lions offense too much on 56 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: a day where they wind up with four hundred and 57 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: twenty one yards or rather five hundred and twenty one 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: yards and forty two points. But they punted their first 59 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: two possessions, and on the bills first possession, Josh Allen 60 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: had that absolutely ridiculous throw up the sideline to Tyd 61 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Johnson and then the even more ridiculous throw over the 62 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: middle of the field where he's just evading defenders and improvising, 63 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: And it was that kind of day for him that 64 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I just think he's playing quarterback at a level that 65 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: I've practically never seen out of a quarterback, except maybe 66 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: from Josh Allen in the twenty twenty two playoffs. Maybe 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: maybe this time he gets to finish it off because 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: it was just like, what can you do about those plays? 69 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 5: You can't do anything? 70 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, there's no spot on the field. It's safe. 71 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 8: Josh Allen, We've seen it so many times. Roll into 72 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 8: his right, stops on the right sideline and fires a 73 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 8: ball to Ty Johnson. We've seen them get extra yards 74 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 8: I think three or four times this season on late 75 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 8: hits on Josh Allen. He got an and one on 76 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 8: a ball down the sideline to Keon Coleman today as well. 77 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 8: And then you factor in his ability to run, and 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 8: it's almost, especially for a very hurt defense, indefensible. Where 79 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 8: we look the long plays on this game, in some 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 8: of the air yards, he had a fifty air yard 81 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 8: pass to Keon Coleman, twenty five to Ty Johnson who 82 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 8: went over one hundred and fifteen yards receiving. Like with 83 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 8: the second half had barely begun, the former third string 84 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 8: Jets running back comes over and all of a sudden, 85 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 8: he's all world with the Bills. They're at a twenty 86 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 8: four air yard pass the Dalton Kinkaid for twenty nine yards. 87 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 8: Just like Jared Golf was very good in this game, 88 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 8: exceedingly good. Didn't even come close to how good. 89 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Knocked a lot of teams out of the Fantasy playoffs, 90 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: like yours, truly, Jared Goff, you know, just trying to 91 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: catch up in this game. But Alec got X rays 92 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: after the game. He felt a little awkwardly on a 93 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: late hit. I didn't notice that live. He said it 94 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: was just precautionary and that he's going to be fine. 95 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: He did finish the game out. But what strikes me 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: shook is the Lions had extra rest coming into this game, 97 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: and yet the Bills were the one responding after a loss. 98 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: They're the first team since the merger, basically in modern 99 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: NFL history to go five touchdowns at least, no turnovers, 100 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: no sacks. Then in three straight games they mashed them. 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: And that's what stands out to me. The injuries, you 102 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: can get into him shook because they're really important. But 103 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: the Bills rushed for one hundred and ninety seven yards 104 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: and the Lions rushed for forty eight, and that is 105 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: just a team kind of taking the Lions identity away 106 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: from them. 107 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was what Stott's the most was just that 108 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 6: how easy it was for the Bills to do whatever 109 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 6: they wanted and we've talked about this at length in 110 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 6: previous weeks about how the Bills can beat you in 111 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 6: so many different ways. Every way they tried to beat 112 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 6: the Lions on Sunday they did it was passing. Guys 113 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 6: were wide open. They did not contain Josh Allen in 114 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 6: the pocket. He was free to roam. And we know 115 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 6: when he's roaming. He's the most dangerous player in the 116 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 6: NFL not named Lamar Jackson. It might even be just 117 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 6: as if not more dangerous. He's finding guys downfield, he's 118 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 6: extending plays, he's running for first downs, he's converting a 119 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 6: fourth and two because of a well schemed play that 120 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 6: gets Tidy Johnson on a natural rub down the sideline 121 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 6: to keep that drive going. They basically took Dan Campbell's 122 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 6: identity of going forward on fourth and two and said, 123 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 6: now we're gonna do that too. 124 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 7: We're gonna do it better than you. 125 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 5: That's the new McDermott. 126 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: By way, Hey, let's go like that is kind of 127 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: a new version of Sean McDermott. People are always saying like, oh, 128 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: McDermott's going to get them in the end, but they 129 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: have been more aggressive. 130 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 5: Don't you think shook. 131 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely. 132 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 6: I think that this is their new identity, and Joe 133 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 6: Brady's doing a masterful job leading this offense. It kind 134 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 6: of blows my mind that they let this offense linger 135 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 6: in like the in between area in purgatory under Ken 136 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 6: Dorsey for as long as they did before going to Joe, 137 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: because now you're seeing the true potential of it. I mean, 138 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 6: James Cooko's for one hundred and five yards on fourteen carries, 139 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 6: two touchdowns, So the Lions couldn't stop the run, they 140 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 6: couldn't contain Josh Allen. Anything that Bills wanted to do, 141 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 6: they did. I got more numbers for you too, because 142 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 6: you know me, big numbers guy. 143 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 9: All Right. 144 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 6: So I'm looking down the Bills schedule and I'm like, 145 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 6: they've put up a lot of points recently. They haven't 146 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 6: finished a game below thirty points since Week six. They've 147 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 6: scored thirty plus points in eight consecutive games, which ties 148 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 6: for the longest streak in a single season in NFL 149 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 6: history with the twenty thirteen Broncos, twenty ten Patriots, two 150 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 6: and seven Patriots, and two thousand Rams. Each of those 151 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 6: teams featured a winner of NFL MVP, which really bolsters 152 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 6: Josh Allen's case for MVP. And like you said that, 153 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 6: the first team since the merger to have five touchdowns, 154 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 6: zero giveaway, zero sacks in three consecutive games, all of 155 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: this to beat a Lions team that everybody feared that 156 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 6: suddenly can't get a stop on defense and wasted. Jared 157 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 6: Goff's performance, which is four hundred plus passing yards, five 158 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 6: plus passing touchdowns, zero interceptions, first player to do all 159 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 6: of that and lose since nineteen fifty. That's where the 160 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 6: concern is for the Lions. And that's how good these 161 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 6: Bills are. 162 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: Remember the first part of the season when we were like, 163 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: what happened to scoring? Yeah, come, there's no three hundred 164 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: yard quarterback. 165 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's just dying right cover two and everything we had. 166 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 8: Tom Brady sounded like an old man, like as if 167 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 8: he played seven hundred and forty four years ago. 168 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 9: He's like, oh, yeah, the game. You know, these quarterbacks 169 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 9: are coming in. 170 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 8: Greg Olsen talking about guys under center, you know, calculator game. 171 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Also kickers who were infallible back then and are very 172 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: much not now now. You mentioned the defensive injuries. After 173 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: the game, Dan Campbell announced that Carlton Davis an Alie 174 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: McNeil's two injuries could potentially be season ending. Those injuries 175 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: are on top of what they already came into the 176 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: game with. Now, they did get some defensive linemen back, 177 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: and yet their defensive line versus the Bill's offensive line 178 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: seemed like the mismatch of the game that really decided. 179 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: Khalil Dorsey, a backup cornerback who's one of their replacement players, 180 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: also looks like he will be out for the season. 181 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: Someone asked about McNeil whether it was an acl Campbell 182 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't answer that. He wouldn't make any excuses, though, when 183 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: asked about all the injuries, how much was this just a. 184 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 10: Case of the injuries catching up to the defense and 185 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 10: playing really good quarterble. 186 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 9: No, I'm not buying it. I'm not. I don't buy it. 187 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 9: You know, we we can be better, We should have 188 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 9: been better. We know how good they are. But that 189 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 9: was that team was more urgent than us today. 190 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Overall, maybe the weight of the season is catching up 191 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: a little bit to the Lions. But they are twelve 192 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: and two, and I think there's gonna be so much 193 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: concern about them this year and worrying about the point 194 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: and zero return. 195 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 5: With these injuries. 196 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: Carlton Davis has a jaw injury and for it to 197 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: possibly the end season ending is very worrisome. I do 198 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: think you saw with this offense today, like if they 199 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not counting them out, but it's gonna 200 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: be much harder if they don't win the division. And 201 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: now that game coming up against the Vikings is just 202 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: absolutely so massive. 203 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, they didn't have room to really slip up because 204 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 6: of how tight the NFC North is. That kind of 205 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 6: actually makes me question what everybody's going to talk about 206 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 6: for the next three days on sports talk radio and TV, 207 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 6: which is why Dan Campbell went for an on si 208 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 6: kick with twelve thus left in the fourth quarter. I mean, 209 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 6: that's admitting we know we can't get a stop, we 210 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 6: are desperate, and we're going to on site kick it here. 211 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 7: It was not a good decision. 212 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, literally the only takeaway and I'm thinking, well, heck, 213 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 8: maybe it works out for Dan Campbell because they scored 214 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 8: the very next play after Mac Collins has that kickoff 215 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 8: return as well, at least they didn't burn a whole 216 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 8: lot of clock. I really think, like, ultimately, because we're 217 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 8: talking about all the injuries for Detroit and I'm buying it. 218 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 9: Coach Campbell, I think having your. 219 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 8: Best players on the field definitely has an impact on 220 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 8: how you perform defensively. 221 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 9: But the Buffalo Bills that they're getting guys back. 222 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 8: This is forty four points a week ago forty two points. 223 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 8: I understand they got to win, but this is a 224 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 8: legitimate concern for Buffalo as well. 225 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 5: That's true. 226 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: Although they were sure at safety, two backups at safety 227 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: today for the Bills, that is concerning. 228 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 5: It's an offensive league. 229 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: I just think they can maybe plug some holes and 230 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: depending on the matchups in Detroit, I don't think it's 231 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: a death sentence. 232 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 5: And people are going. 233 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: To talk a lot about the on side kick they 234 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: needed to steal a possession. They almost did get the 235 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: on side kick with about twelve seconds to go, Like, yeah, 236 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: it didn't work out for them, But just as poorly 237 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: in terms of the results was when they kicked it 238 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: off the next possession and then gave up a six 239 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: minute field goal drive because time was more important than 240 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: points at that point and there was no reason to 241 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: believe that they were going to stop the Bills and 242 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: they didn't. So I think it's just getting a little, 243 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, a little beside the point to focus on 244 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: the on side kick. Let's listen to one more incredible 245 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: play by Josh Allen. If I hadn't read the numbers yet, 246 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty two yards and two touchdowns through 247 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: the air, and yeah, put sixty eight on the ground 248 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: as well. This was one of his improvised plays on 249 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: a day where he held the ball in terms of 250 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: time to throw longer than he has in almost five years. 251 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: Receiver to each side, put the loan set back with 252 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: Alan unders center motion from Gilliam, Allan gonna roll to 253 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: his right, pressure coming, gets away from it, looking downfield. 254 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 5: Throws, He's hit as he throws, and. 255 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: It's taught by Kean Coleman at the seventeen yard line. 256 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,239 Speaker 5: What a frozen rope. 257 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 7: From Allen who took a shot and. 258 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 2: It's gonna be an extra fifteen yards tacked on for 259 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: roughing the passer. 260 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Who that was late in the first half. Tyler Bass 261 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: actually missed a gimme in that situation, or or the 262 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Bills would have put up a fifty burger on the 263 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: NFC's number one overall seed, at least heading into to today. 264 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to Philadelphia who saw a door being cracked. 265 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 11: A J. 266 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 5: Brown out to the far side. 267 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 12: Players loansome hers this time backs up, looks fires complete. 268 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 7: Hey J Brown and the back of the zone. 269 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: Man, fantastic. 270 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 9: This is a little play action to Saquon. He puts 271 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 9: it in there and holds it for a little bit. 272 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 13: Then he seems that linebacker displays on the back end, 273 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 13: pulls it, and he throws the strike to a jam. 274 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: That was Jalen Hurts to AJ Brown one of the 275 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: more predictable squeaky Wheel games of all time. They were 276 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: the story all week long, their relationship. Suddenly they're doing 277 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: kidding play celebrations in the middle of the field. Jalen 278 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: Hurts started this game twelve of thirteen for one hundred 279 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: and forty six yard and two passing touchdowns. The Eagles 280 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: end up cruising to a twenty seven to thirteen victory 281 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: over the Steelers in Philadelphia. And I really did think 282 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: the difference was not just the Philadelphia defense, which I'll 283 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: get to, but AJ Brown getting trusted to make difficult 284 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: catches early in this game. He ends up eight for 285 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: one to ten and a touchdown, and especially in the 286 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: first quarter, it was like all the conversation was in 287 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts his head and that he was gonna give 288 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: his guy a chance to make plays. And aj Brown 289 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: made of DeVonta Smith goes over one hundred yards too. 290 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: And even though there was a little period in the 291 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: second half where Jalen Hurts was holding on to the 292 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: ball too much, this game reminded me a little bit 293 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: of the Bills Lions game in that Philadelphia pushed him 294 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: around a little bit upfront. Their defensive line, to me, 295 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: made a bigger impact in the game than the Steelers 296 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: vanted defensive line, and for the most part, Jalen Hurts 297 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of time back there to go find 298 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: his guys. 299 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 8: And Jeff Stotlin's group the Eagles offensive line was able 300 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 8: to do that with Landed Dickerson out for a lot 301 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 8: of this game. There was Lane Johnson went missing for 302 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 8: a spot in this game, and they were able to 303 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 8: hold Saquon Barkley to under four yards of carry, where 304 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 8: we're waiting for this Saquon pull away opportunity that never came. 305 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 8: And so in this absolute bowl Constrictor Leviath in ten 306 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 8: minute and twenty nine second drive to ice the game. 307 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 8: There are a couple of long conversions from Jalen Hurts 308 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 8: Won to Devonte Smith Won to aj Brown. They had 309 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 8: a fourth down conversion, a few third and short and 310 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 8: they just kind of squeezed the life out of the Steelers, 311 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 8: not just in that drive, but it felt like in 312 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 8: this game on offense, Hady. 313 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 5: It was amazing. 314 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: The Steelers only had two drives in the second half. 315 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: That's the first time that's happened in fifteen years in 316 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: the NFL. 317 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 9: Wow. 318 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I love checking the drive chart and just like, okay, 319 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: was it a heavy drive game? Was it a low 320 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: drive game? You just don't see that. In fact, in 321 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: the first half of the game, the Steelers had five 322 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: drives in the first sixteen minutes of the game and 323 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: they did absolutely nothing with it. They had negative yardage 324 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: through the first four drives of the game and they 325 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: weren't moving the ball at all. So it was the 326 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Philly defense early in the Philly offense late a seven 327 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: minute drive for thirteen plays that started the second half, 328 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: then a six play drive after a Nase Harris fumble, 329 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: which really was the most important play of the game. 330 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: I think it was an unforced era at a time 331 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: when the Steelers were right in it. It was a one 332 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: score game. The Eagles go catch that in with some 333 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: of those plays that you mentioned, Patrick, and then they 334 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: finished the game after Mike Tomlin punts the ball in 335 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: plus territory on fourth and seven down two touchdowns in 336 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Mike Tomlin's one of the greatest coaches 337 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: of all time, but he always makes those decisions. That's 338 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: to me. It seems like his bugaboo. They didn't get 339 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: the ball back. The Eagles just ran it out the 340 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: last ten and a half minutes of the game. And yes, 341 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: it led to a happy locker room for the Eagles 342 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts even making a little joke when he 343 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: gets to the podium. 344 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 9: So that's what all want to see, huh. 345 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 5: Dude, it really was. 346 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: It was. It was like, yes, that is what we 347 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: would like to see, Nick, It was fun. 348 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 6: I don't know if that was so much of a 349 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 6: joke as more of like a statement like, oh, you 350 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 6: spent the whole week worrying about my relationship with my 351 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 6: receivers and then we just go do that. 352 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 7: There was no smile on his face. 353 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 6: That was very coldly delivered, but earned, very much earned 354 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 6: for the Eagles who spent the whole week, you know, 355 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 6: having to deflect and everything else and explain themselves and 356 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 6: then come out and may fire on all cylinders. I mean, 357 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 6: a complete team performance. You have a team that dominates 358 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 6: in time possession essentially two to one, and you rack 359 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 6: up four hundred and one yards of total offense, You 360 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 6: convert ten to seventeen third downs, and you hold. 361 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 7: The opposing offense to one hundred and sixty three yards. 362 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 6: Mister limited, Russell Wilson goes fourteen to twenty two for 363 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 6: one twenty eight in a touchdown. 364 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 7: They had no shot other than the score. 365 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 6: I mean, the score was relatively close until the fourth 366 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 6: quarter when they put them away with that touchdown. But man, 367 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: this is the an Eagles defense that has basically been 368 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 6: like this since like Week seven, since that game in 369 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 6: New York against the Giants. This is who they've been, 370 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 6: and the offense has gotten it done, primarily with Saquon Barkley. 371 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 6: Now they're able to open up the passing game a 372 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 6: little bit. The vibes around this team are still weird 373 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 6: because of what happens on the sidelines and all the 374 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 6: narratives that we deal with. 375 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 5: We got we got more of that. We still got 376 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 5: a little more of that. 377 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, Tom a little bit of a tease. 378 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's hard to argue with 379 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 6: them at twelve and two and they're they're playing pretty 380 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 6: dominant football. I mean, in Mike Tomlins case when he 381 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 6: punts there, it makes sense my defense is better than 382 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 6: my offense. 383 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 7: It did right, Maybe they're going to turn over it, 384 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 7: but it doesn't. 385 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 6: It doesn't make sense. But that's what happens when you 386 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 6: play a team that's playing this well. 387 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 5: It's today. 388 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 8: They got to third, they got to third and seven, 389 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 8: third and six from the seven yard line and Jalen 390 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 8: Hurts hits AJ Brown for twenty one yards. 391 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 9: It changes things. But they did get to a third. Doubt. 392 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: It wasn't like you got to know, you got to 393 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: know the game situation. I just don't think they were 394 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: going to get enough possessions and their offense wasn't playing well. 395 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: They had one hundred and sixty three yards, as Shook mentioned, 396 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: and you're in plus territory. 397 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 5: You're just going to run out of time. 398 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: Just got to give your chance, You got to give 399 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: your guys a chance to go win the game. 400 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 8: Sure, you could say you're faunted offense. We were just 401 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 8: discussing that the Steelers have today. 402 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, you got to give him a chance. Unfortunately, 403 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: on that drive, TJ. Watt, who had two sacks on 404 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: the day, one of the big plays of the game 405 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: I thought was Jalen hurts unbelievable ability to hold onto 406 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: the ball with his right hand as TJ. Watt swatted it. 407 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: He must have the strongest hands in the entire league. 408 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Like you could even see the ball get loose there 409 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: for like a half a second. I have no idea 410 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: how how he could have gripped onto the ball there. 411 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 5: TJ. 412 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Watt leaves with an ankle injury. Mike Tomlin said there 413 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: will be more tests done on that, so that is concerning. 414 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: They also lost Dante Jackson during this game. We'll see 415 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: how serious Watt's injury is. The Steelers offense has gone 416 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: through stretches like they went through early in this game, 417 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: where like I mentioned, six possessions and I believe they 418 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: had negative yardage through six. 419 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 5: Possessions in three points. 420 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: And the only reason why they had three points is 421 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: because they started a drive in the Eagles territory, went 422 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: backwards and then had to punt, but then Cooper Desine 423 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: fumbled the punt and they got the ball at at 424 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles eleven yard line, went three and out again 425 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: before a field goal. I mean the Eagles defense was 426 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: really on one. The only mistakes they had were like penalties. 427 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter had a penalty on a punt that helped 428 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: give the Steelers a ball around a field goal rather 429 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: and other than that, Josh Sweat is really playing a 430 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: lot better like Nolan Smith. It is a really complete group. 431 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: And now you look ahead, they're tied with the Lions 432 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: at twelve and two and they're scheduled down the stretch 433 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: is very forgiving. You do have the Commanders next week 434 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: in Washington. They can officially clinch the division there. That's 435 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: not an easy game. But then another couple division games 436 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: and they're going to be heavy favorites. They do not 437 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: win any ties at twelve and two at fifteen and 438 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: two with the Vikings and or the Lions, so they 439 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: need the Lions and the Vikings to lose one more 440 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: game each. 441 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: But if that happens, they're they're in pretty good shape. 442 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, with them playing each other. Yeah, there's one get 443 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 8: they get one of those maybe unless there's a gentleman's agreement. 444 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: Charges now that will not help the Viking until though, 445 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: I guess we have to find out. Yeah, the Eagles 446 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: close with Dallas and the Giants at home after that 447 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: game against Washington next week. So I just am so 448 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: impressed with this team. And as good as the Steelers 449 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: are in general, is their defense special enough? I have 450 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: my doubts against the very best offenses. Now, who is 451 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: that in the AFC? It's the Bills certainly, Like maybe 452 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: it's the Ravens as well, that they'll get a matchup 453 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: with them coming up, Like is their their defense is good? 454 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: But it's not good enough? And their their offense has 455 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: been opportunistic? Maybe not enough? And yees shook. You mentioned 456 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: the sideline. 457 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: Do you want to describe? 458 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: Who wants to describe the sideline fracas between Nick Sirianni 459 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: and his own defensive line coach. 460 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 8: I was only able to look up and see it 461 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 8: during our show, but I saw, as you know, Sirianni 462 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 8: talking to the Delon coach big Dom there for some reason. 463 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 5: Clinton hurt. 464 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think was stopping Sirianni, if I can interpret 465 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: it right, from going up to Jalen Carter and saying 466 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: anything after this boneheaded, unnecessary roughness on Jalen Carter that 467 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: it was almost a defensive line coach saying not now, buddy, 468 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: like now is not the time like, and then Siriani 469 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: kind of squaring up to Clinton hertwich I don't think 470 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: would work out well for them. But they're both pretty 471 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: large menton, but you know, Clint's bigger. There's always something 472 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: with the Eagles, even in a win. But man, they 473 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: are really impressive. So we talked about the one seed 474 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: in the NFC, could the one seed in the AFC 475 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: wind up being up for grabs though? 476 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 11: First and ten play they swing it on the near 477 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 11: flat with a screen Worthy fifteen ten down to the block, touchdown, 478 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 11: Cansa City on a swing screen to the near side 479 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 11: to ke Xavier Worthy, and now the Kansas City Chiefs 480 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 11: have their first three possession lead of the season and 481 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 11: maybe their first three touchdown lead of the season. 482 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 5: Wow. 483 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: Mitch Holtis on WDAF that's pretty crazy stat which really 484 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: speaks to the chief season and also speaks to how 485 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: excited he was about it. It's like, Wow, I'm finally 486 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna get to kick back and just enjoy an easy victory. 487 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: It didn't. 488 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 9: They didn't score after that. 489 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it didn't work out that way. 490 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: The Browns had a million possessions, they only cut it 491 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: to twenty one seven. That winds up being the final 492 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: score because there were six takeaways from the Chiefs defense. 493 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: So if you stream them in fantasy in your playoffs, 494 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: great job by you. 495 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, Nick, the. 496 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: Reason why this is getting talked about so early in 497 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: the show is that Patrick Mahomes left with an ankle injury. 498 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: There's fear that it could be a high ankle sprain. 499 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: According to multiple reports. The team is not saying that, 500 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: but really just calls into question how the next couple 501 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: of weeks are going to go for the Kansas City Chiefs. 502 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, especially if you watched this team this season, because 503 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 6: you know how valuable Mahomes is. Now Statistically doesn't shine through, 504 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 6: but when you watch him every week, you see him 505 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 6: convert the third downs. He's one of the most frustrating 506 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 6: players to defend in the NFL, and taking that element 507 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 6: out of that offense really takes away a big part 508 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 6: of what makes these Chiefs thirteen and one, which is 509 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 6: that they win on the margins. They won this game, 510 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 6: and the margins on both sides of the ball. They 511 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 6: forced a lot of turnovers. Anytime the Browns put the 512 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 6: ball on the turf free to be picked up, they 513 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 6: were there to pick it up. Anytime they needed a 514 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 6: third down. Mahomes still converted a majority of them, or 515 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 6: at least a good amount of them. But if you 516 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 6: take that out of the offense and you leave it 517 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: to Carson Wentz, suddenly makes you question this entire team's viability. 518 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 6: So hopefully they could get news on him. Also, Mahomes 519 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 6: and the ankle injury history not encouraging considering what he's 520 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 6: dealt with over the last few years. But this game, 521 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 6: specifically classic case of a champion and a winning team 522 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 6: playing better than a losing team. I mean, they won 523 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 6: in every small area. Every fifty to fifty ball went 524 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 6: their way. Every time there was a play to be made, 525 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 6: they made it. Scheme wise, they outschemed the Browns, and 526 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 6: the Browns defense played well enough to keep them in 527 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 6: this game. But defensively, the Chiefs were all over Jamis Winston. 528 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 6: They took advantage of his wrists, they picked him off, 529 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 6: They forced a number of turnovers. They capitalized in every 530 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: single situation, which is the mark of a championship level team. 531 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 6: So to see them go winning Cleveland not surprising at all. 532 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 6: To see them winning this fashion not surprising at all. 533 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 6: In fact, it was more dominant than in the twenty 534 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 6: one to seven final would even suggest, but that was 535 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 6: because they didn't quite you know, maintain possession as long 536 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 6: as you would want them to. But yeah, we'll see, 537 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 6: we'll see what mahomes because it would take away obviously 538 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 6: a huge part of their team one of the superstars 539 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 6: of the NFL fingers crossed. But luckily they've done enough 540 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 6: so far at thirteen to one to buy themselves a 541 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 6: little bit of breathing room if they need it. 542 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think we're getting Carson Wentz on Saturday against 543 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: the Texans. I know it's early in the week, but 544 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport called it week to week right. 545 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 5: Off the bat. 546 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: We've seen Patrick Mahomes play, but they have two games 547 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: in a five day window because they're also playing on Christmas. 548 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Maybe they just really hope that he can get back 549 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: for that game against the raven So I think we're 550 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: gonna have Carson Wentz in a standalone window on on 551 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: Saturday or else you know, you just normally don't hear 552 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: a guy like Ian Rappaport was careful about these things, 553 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: say week to week right off the bat, because week 554 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: to week means you're out this week. I think it's 555 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: a crisis. What's happening with the Chiefs offense. They had 556 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: to play Joe Tunia left tackle, which I think makes sense. 557 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, they lost DJ Humphries to injury and Joe 558 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: Toney is the best left tackle on their roster. That 559 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: part makes sense. But Patrick Mahomes has taken thirty seven 560 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: quarterback hits over the last three weeks. I have to 561 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: imagine that's one of the highest three game quarterback hits totals, 562 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: if not the highest in the NFL this entire season. 563 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 7: Him and Will Levis, I think right. 564 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: And he didn't get sacked today, so part of it 565 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: is he's just trying to make a play and he's 566 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: holding onto the ball because his guys aren't open. It's 567 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: just this cyclical thing. But he's taken an absolute beating and. 568 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 8: That might be the best reason to not have him 569 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 8: play right and come back, because they can't protect him 570 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 8: when his ankles are good. All right, and the memories 571 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 8: of Patrick Mahomes hobbling his way to a super Bowl 572 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 8: on that ankle. It becomes like you think about the 573 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 8: cumulative effect of all of these hits, where like the 574 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 8: improvement was him getting hit on thirty eight percent of 575 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 8: his drop backs a week ago. When they make the 576 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 8: shift and now they've they've got Tony out there at 577 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 8: left tackle where you're I guess the benefit that the 578 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 8: Chiefs got today was Miles Garrett got poked in the 579 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 8: eye and so he missed the significant portion of the game. 580 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 8: And because otherwise Mahomes takes even more shots. 581 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Tuney did well against him. This is 582 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 7: the thing. 583 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 6: He did a really good job as a guy who 584 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 6: doesn't play tackle suddenly playing tackle. But it speaks to 585 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 6: where the Chiefs have had to cut corners to stay 586 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 6: competitive while paying some of these other guys as they've 587 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 6: had to cut corners that tackle and it's been a 588 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 6: problem of both sides the line for them this year. 589 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 7: It is their greatest weakness. 590 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 6: It's not their defense, it's not even their offense, their 591 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 6: offensive line whether they can protect him, and now they 592 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 6: may have to pay some of that bill. So I 593 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 6: guess it's better that it's happening now as opposed to 594 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 6: three or four weeks from now. But it is a 595 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 6: huge red flag as you approach the postseason. 596 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: Right, and they would have to lose two times to 597 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: let the Bills in on the one seed. I guess 598 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers could be in that mix too, but realistically, 599 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: because of the head to head, Bills are the ones 600 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: they're hoping for. And if you lose to the Texans, 601 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: for instance, with Carson went, then suddenly you got the 602 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: Ravens five days later. If you're a fan of the Bills, 603 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: like Eric back there, you at least have a little 604 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: bit of hope. And the quarterback hits thing is is 605 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: fascinating to me because Mahomes didn't take a sack, which 606 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: is crazy like of them. The Chiefs, for instance, had 607 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: eleven quarterback hits, which is a huge number in one game. 608 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: They got five sacks out of it, and so whereas 609 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes didn't take any sacks at all, and that it 610 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: was very similar to what happened a week ago in 611 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: the Chiefs scheme. But it just feels like it's breaking 612 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: down a little bit and yet they still win. And 613 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: I hear you chok that probably watching the game it 614 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: didn't feel as close, and Winston gets benched at the 615 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: end for DTR, who also throws an interception. But in 616 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: the end, like the Chiefs average four point one yards 617 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: for play. I mean, that's terrible. That's if they did 618 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: that all season, they'd be the worst offense in the NFL. 619 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: And they got drive after drive after drive that their 620 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: defense kept giving them and they couldn't really move the ball, 621 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 1: so that that is concerning to me. 622 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 8: And two of those Jamus picks were caught in the 623 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 8: end zone. It felt like an early white flag, Like 624 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 8: if you're in a situation where you need to throw 625 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 8: late in the time, it like why not just keep Jamison. 626 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 8: I understand you're frustrated with Jamis Winston, but it was 627 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 8: like an early white flag situation to throw DTR in 628 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 8: that game where I don't think DTR is thicking, that's 629 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 8: he has to come in. 630 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 9: It's just a bad situation for everybody. 631 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 5: DTR through nine passes. 632 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, it speaks to what Greg's pointing to you for 633 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 6: weeks really this whole season, which is that the Browns 634 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 6: have this strange curiosity about DTR and anytime there's a 635 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 6: little bit of a sliver of an opening. 636 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 7: They're gonna find a way to force him onto the field. 637 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 8: Well, let let DTR know before you range. You rage 638 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 8: in the game against the Chiefs. 639 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Chiefs go plus six and turnovers. It's 640 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: tough to lose a game when you go plus six 641 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: in turnovers. But man, the Brown's actually somehow average more 642 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: yards played despite DTR throwing nine passes for eighteen yards. 643 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: We'll see if he gets like, what was the value 644 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: in there? Yeah, there was no value all around. It's 645 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a bummer right now this 646 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: season to watch the Chiefs. And it's a really big 647 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: bummer that Nick Chubb left this game with a broken foot. 648 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski announced after the game. Unfortunately that could be 649 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: the end of his Browns tenure. I hope it's not, 650 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: but all the best to Nick Chubb as he goes 651 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: to tackle another difficult recovery. So I mentioned that the Ravens, 652 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: because of that Steelers loss, had a door open, And 653 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend like you guys don't know 654 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: the results of the Ravens Giants game. They started Tommy 655 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: freaking de Vito with the Ravens coming off of bye 656 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: for God's sake. 657 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 5: Lamar stands with the shotgun. On second down, likely comes 658 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: in motion to the left. Lamar takes the snap looking 659 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 5: to left, firing man zone. 660 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 14: He's got a man touchdown were shot Bateman hits shucking 661 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 14: of the. 662 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 8: Day and Baitman runs at deep seven cut into the 663 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 8: end zone and a beautiful throw and catch. 664 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: It has been too long since we had former NFL 665 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: Network employee Rod Woodson on the recap show. That was 666 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: also Jerry sin Dusky wb A l on a day 667 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: where Josh Allen was just about perfect and seemed to 668 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: advance his cause as the National Football League's Most Valuable 669 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: Player for the twenty twenty four season. My God, Lamar 670 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Jackson had one of the best days of his career 671 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: in the Giants. Foreign completions, five passing touchdowns and oh 672 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: sixty five yards on the ground on six rushes. This 673 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: must have been enjoyable of Ravens gave. You didn't have 674 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: to sweat Patrick. 675 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, it was fun to not sweat it. 676 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 8: It did start off with a Lamar fumble, and despite 677 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 8: how great that he was today, Lamar will tell you 678 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 8: that that's the thing that he's going to remember was 679 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 8: getting that ball. 680 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 9: Punched out on the opening drive. After that, they did nothing. 681 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 8: But score touchdowns as long as he was in the game, 682 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 8: including so glad to have Rashad Bateman back after the 683 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 8: buy two of those where he's back in the end zone. 684 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 8: Davontees Walker tes Walker gets his first NFL cap, which 685 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 8: is also a touchdown from Lamar, and then we got 686 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 8: to see one of the biggest anomalies in the entire NFL. 687 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 8: Tim Boyle comes into this game continuing to play NFL 688 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 8: football despite throwing one touchdown and thirteen interceptions in his 689 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 8: college career and four touchdowns and twelve interceptions in his 690 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 8: pro career. He added to those well to the interception 691 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 8: and the touchdown today, tim Boyle cooking up the ring. 692 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta say, I don't think the Giants would 693 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: have covered a mystical twenty one point spread if that 694 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: was espread. I think it was sixteen and a half. 695 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 1: So they still didn't cover. If Tim Boyle didn't come in. 696 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: He was an up grade. He was better than Tom. 697 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: He made to be fair about four passes that I 698 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: was like, that's a pretty nice pass. I was like, 699 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: cause there were two, and I was like, I can't 700 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: believe Tommy DeVito's making these passes. And then I looked 701 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: and it was actually Tim Boyle. I'm not saying he 702 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: was perfect. 703 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 8: You got to when you're Tim Boyle, you got to 704 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 8: set the expectations so low that the people watching are like, hey, 705 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 8: this is about three or four of those passes. 706 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 5: It pretty nice, I think Tim Boyle, they were. They 707 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 5: actually were nice. 708 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: Look if you're a Malik Neighbors Fantasy owner or whatever, 709 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: he hooked you up. 710 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 9: Another ten catch game by the league Neighbors, by the. 711 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: Way, eighty two yards in a touchdown. You know he's 712 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: trying to get on those offensive Player of the Year, 713 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year ballots. Shook that we didn't put 714 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: him on before the game. I noticed the little flyover, 715 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: which is now a weekly event in MetLife Stadium. It says, 716 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: mister Mara, enough, we won't stop until you fire everyone. 717 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: I do remember a quote from Mara at one point 718 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: that that said, like the one thing that he would 719 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: be most concerned about would be apathy. He doesn't mind booze, 720 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: but he doesn't want apathy. And there were a ton 721 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: of empty seats. It was hard not to notice that 722 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: MetLife so just Brian Dable watched that. 723 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 5: That stuck out to me. 724 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, and in the same vein off the top of 725 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 6: my head. Since Black Friday of last season, Tim Boyle 726 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 6: has now thrown passes for three NFL teams and somehow 727 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 6: is still in the league. This was the easiest game 728 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 6: of the season to pick if you're in the picking 729 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 6: group like me. Okay, we knew what was going to 730 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 6: happen here. It's dark days for the Giants and like 731 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 6: you said, nothing worse than empty seats. 732 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Tim Boyle it should be pointed out 733 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: in college did you did you have his numbers from college? 734 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 5: Did you throw that out there? 735 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 9: It was his career at Connecticut. 736 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 5: I don't know why I was spending so in statement. 737 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 9: No, because it's fun to look back. 738 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 8: I'm currently pulling up between twelve hundred and thirty eight 739 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 8: hundred per flight to fly a banner around MetLife. But yeah, yeah, yeah, 740 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 8: I know it's a very expensive operation in multiple weeks 741 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 8: with different banners. So somebody besides John Marray has a 742 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 8: lot of money. One touchdown, thirteen interceptions in his career 743 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 8: at Yukon that Tim Boyle, that is absolutely forty eight 744 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 8: completion percentage. 745 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: The thing with Lamar, people will just say, well, it 746 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: doesn't count because it's it's the Giants, and they end 747 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: up with four hundred and forty five yards despite not 748 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: having that many possessions because they just scored touchdowns on 749 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: all of them and took a little longer. Like those 750 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: weren't easy throws that he was making, they were really 751 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: great timing throws. He now leads the NFL in yards 752 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: per attempt passing, in yards per carry rushing. His yards 753 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: per attempt is adjusted yards per attempt is far and 754 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: away the best in the league and the best of 755 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: his career. He's having such a better season that he 756 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: did a year ago that it's just something to watch 757 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: down the stretch because they have some big, big time 758 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: games with the Steelers and the Chiefs coming up. 759 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 5: That if he. 760 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: Played absolutely outstanding and Allen or the Bills, you know, 761 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: stumbled a little bit down the stretch, you never know, 762 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: this thing might not be over. Because Lamar just has 763 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: been that good this year. The only thing that wasn't 764 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: good about him on Sunday were his pants. 765 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 15: All right, So look, it was asking me that, So 766 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 15: I'm like, I felt like Winn was touching my butt, 767 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 15: you know. So I was trying to keep my tights 768 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 15: up for real, like the tights just like gotta lot loose. 769 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 9: Who nose. 770 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 15: It's all like, just kind of keep my pants up. 771 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 15: That's all it was. It was too cold. 772 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 8: He made it defense or miss while pulling his pants up. 773 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 8: By the way, we saw new Compkins completely lose his 774 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 8: pants today. There's a pants issue league wide right now. 775 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: There have been a lot of pulling the pants down situations. 776 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: That one was crazy because he said, and that's a 777 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: classic quote. Can we cut that to just the I 778 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: felt the wind touching my butt. It's fantastic because it 779 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: certainly didn't look like that to the outside. I think 780 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: he just he just felt it and it wasn't. It 781 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: wasn't what was happening. It was just cold. But uh, 782 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: that was about it. If you can get first downs 783 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: while pulling up your pants, that's when you know football 784 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: is back. All right, Let's take a quick break here 785 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go to the AFC South where, yes, 786 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: the division was on the line on Sunday, even though 787 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: the Texans were struggling. 788 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 9: What wind was touching the. 789 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 5: Tua takes the snap. Tua with pressure throwing calf field 790 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 5: two was White and Stanley a good. That's gonna do it. 791 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 5: The Texans are gonna beat Miami. Stanley's second pick seals 792 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 5: the deal. Bad Houston will get its ninth win. 793 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: If you didn't count Derek Stingley as one of the 794 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: best cornerbacks in the NFL, I think today did it 795 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: for you. 796 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 5: That was Mark VanderMeer, by the way on k I 797 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 5: l t Yes. 798 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: The Texans in the early window, knowing they had a 799 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: chance to possibly win the division today with a win 800 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: and a Colts loss, took care of business and it 801 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: was all about the defense, especially Stingley. They forced to 802 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: a tongue of Iloa into four turnovers in this game. 803 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: That was just an absolutely electric like play by by 804 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: Stingley that not many cornerbacks could possibly make. And the 805 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: interception that he had earlier in the second half, I 806 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: think not only showed what a good player he is 807 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: in terms of his athleticism, his ability to read what 808 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: the play is going to be, but also what Miami's 809 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: limitations are. I think Trent Green did a good job 810 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: pointing out during the game Singly with City on that 811 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: route all day and the double move to go deep 812 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: for Tyreek Hill would have been there all day and 813 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: they just never did it. Like this is an offense 814 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: that played inside of a box and they made it 815 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: work for most of the time that Tuatungo Iiloa has 816 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 1: returned since his injury. But they just can't hit anything 817 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: down the field. Everything is short. Jalen Waddle goes out 818 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: of this game with an injury, and Tyreek Hill did 819 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: not have a catch until midway through the third quarter. 820 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: So Stingley's is sitting on that route over and over again, 821 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: and he makes a great play while the Dolphins are 822 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: driving in a game that I thought they were gonna 823 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: steal because the Texans offense couldn't do anything. But ultimately 824 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: this was a true defensive battle shook between a defense 825 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: that's been borderline great all year and a defense that's 826 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: been good and just had its moments. And the one 827 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: that's been borderlined great, they just stepped up today and 828 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: they got the Texans a win. 829 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 6: And that's what it comes down to in a matchup 830 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 6: like this. And you're right, the Dolphins offense has been 831 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 6: playing in a box and for a while it worked. 832 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 6: I mean, we knew that the explosive play wasn't there, 833 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 6: but they were making it work with Tua and timing 834 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 6: and accuracy until today when he throws three interceptions. Because 835 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 6: they have to be one of the easier studies for 836 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 6: an opposing defense since two has been back, and I 837 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 6: think the Houston Texans definitely proved that today. 838 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 7: But this is that type of out. 839 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 6: Can we get from these two teams, because Houston still 840 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 6: can't find its way offensively, and yet they were able 841 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 6: to convert. 842 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 7: CJ. 843 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 6: Stroud throws a fantastic touchdown pass to Nico Collins, one 844 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 6: of those classic like nothing's there, nothing's there, I'm gonna 845 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 6: keep buying time. Oh I'm going to flick a wrist 846 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 6: and touch down the back of the end zone a Nico, 847 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 6: and that's all you ended up needing in a twenty 848 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 6: to twelve win. Now, Houston leaves a lot to be desired. 849 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 6: There's a lot to be concerned about with them. There 850 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 6: has been this entire season, especially offensively. But if their 851 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 6: defense can play this well against a number of different 852 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 6: opponents that maybe harder studies than the Dolphins in their 853 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 6: limited offense, then they're going to have a shot. And 854 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 6: especially because they're in a division like you said that 855 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 6: was up for grabs, but they're clearly in front of 856 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 6: So you come away feeling good about this win, you 857 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 6: still have your concerns about the Texans and the Dolphins meanwhile, 858 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 6: are looking at this like, oh no, there's the death blow. 859 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 6: We were going to try to mount this great comeback 860 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 6: and we might just be toast now. 861 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 8: And when you look over across the AFC, right and 862 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 8: these teams and what they have and where they're unique 863 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 8: and where they're different, this Derek Stingley performance and also 864 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 8: the Will Anderson performance as well, these Texans are going 865 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 8: to give somebody a problem, right because they are so 866 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 8: good in the ability right to cover and provide pressure. 867 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 13: Well. 868 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 9: Will Anderson was getting rid of the ball fast. He's 869 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 9: always gotten rid of the ball fast. 870 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 8: Will Anderson wins so early and strip Sacks's former teammate, 871 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 8: leading to a scoring opportunity where Houston can afford right 872 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 8: to be kind of regressed on offense and score on 873 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 8: these scrappy plays where you end up having Robert Woods 874 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 8: peel off to block Kalais Campbell and then he throws 875 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 8: and c J. Strout throws a touchdown pass and Nico 876 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 8: Collins the second of the day where they can afford 877 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 8: to have those types of problems, whereas Miami it felt 878 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 8: like they had to execute. They had to be just 879 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 8: so good and so precise to get these short completions 880 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 8: time after time after time where the clock just eventually 881 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 8: runs out on them. 882 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 5: Right. 883 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: The difference was the Texans took advantage when they got 884 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: down to the red zone. Their offense was basically do 885 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: something magical CJ. It was back to the offense from 886 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: the first six or seven weeks that was reasonably effective. 887 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 5: He just did it enough today. 888 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: They also set up a score on a drive where 889 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: he has a I think it was Zach Seeler is 890 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: draped all over him and he completes it to keep 891 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: the drive going. There was nothing to feel good about. 892 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 1: Otherwise they couldn't run the ball at all. Their stuff rate, 893 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: which it means you're getting stopped at the line of 894 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: scrimmage or behind, was way higher than their success rate 895 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: in terms of their running game. So Joe Mixon was 896 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: a ghost in this game. He had under two yards 897 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: per carry. C. J. Stroud was under heat quite a bit, 898 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: but to Patrick's point, so was Tua. Even though he 899 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: got rid of the ball pretty quickly. Daniel Hunter, I thought, 900 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: hadn't even better game than Anderson, who had a big 901 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: time splash play and also had a lot of pressures. 902 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: There was eleven quick pressures for the Texans, and it's 903 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: really hard to run an offense that way. The Dolphins 904 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: were missing both their starting tackles, which is important context, 905 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: and yet I didn't think that was that huge a. 906 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 5: Deal in the game, at least early on. 907 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: Like he was, he had some time to throw and 908 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: most of the pressure was coming through the middle, and 909 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: like I said, neither of these teams could do anything. 910 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: It was three point six yards per play. I think 911 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: the difference was as good as Tua has been in 912 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: creat a to a mode this season, like CJ. Stroud 913 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: was better at that today. Neither one of them had 914 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: a run game. Neither one of them were putting very 915 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: good position to succeed. It was not a pretty game whatsoever. 916 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: But the Texans had the home field advantage and they 917 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: seem like they've got a little something to them where 918 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are just done. 919 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 8: And they did that, and they didn't have Joe Mixon 920 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 8: for a stretch in this game, because for the second 921 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 8: time this season, Joe Mixon has gotten clear clear as day. 922 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 8: HP tackled with no flag and so he's he was 923 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 8: able to get back in the game. But he just 924 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 8: finished with twenty three yards on the ground, a guy 925 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 8: who's had one hundred yards and a touchdown at seven 926 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 8: games this season and he's only played in ten. 927 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 5: Of Right, it was because of another hip drop tackle. 928 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 5: By the way, right, it was brutal. 929 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: There actually hasn't been I went to check this a 930 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: call on a hip drop tackle all season. So I 931 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: think it's just become something where they're going to find 932 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: players for it. 933 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 5: And it might be too. 934 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: Difficult for officials to call that in real time because 935 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: we saw a couple of big examples of it today. 936 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: Because what's the point of a rule where you can't 937 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: call it. I'm not really sure. 938 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 7: Add in replay assists, maybe you'll get that change. 939 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 5: YEP, I think I think that could be where we go. 940 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 9: But it seems like the obvious move right a lot 941 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 9: of things. 942 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 5: I agree. 943 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: CJ ends up with one hundred and thirty one yards 944 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: and two touchdowns through the air. Unfortunately, a big part 945 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: of the story of this game was the wide receiver 946 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins, Grant to Bo's who an injury 947 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 1: replacement after they released Odell Beckham since we last spoke 948 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: to you on Friday, so Odell Beckham is on waivers 949 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: by the way as we speak. But granted Bo's was 950 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: out there and took a really nasty hit over the 951 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: middle on a pass from Tua that put you know, 952 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: put to Bo's in a tough position, and Kaylen Bullock 953 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: came over the middle and hit him, you know, right 954 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: in the head, and his head kind of snapped back 955 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: and also hit the ground very hard. Was put on 956 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: a stretcher. They had to cut off his helmet, take 957 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: off his shirt, taken to the hospital. He's going to 958 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: stay over Sunday night. The Dolphins would just say that 959 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: they've had positive results and that he's stable and no 960 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: more information than that. So just sending our best, obviously 961 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: and hoping for the best for that young man and 962 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: his family. It was a really scary scene for the 963 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: Dolphins and Grandy Bo's today. All right, let's go to 964 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: our next segment. It's the time for the Sunday Drive 965 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: presented by the all new hybrid Toyota Camry. We're going 966 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: to Denver. When this game started, the Colts knew they 967 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: had to win the game to stay alive in the AFC. 968 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 5: South plods to. 969 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 7: The right, four receivers right, this is going to be 970 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 7: a double pass. 971 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 9: They throw it, completed it. 972 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 14: Throw back to Richardson, mister cantercepting, intercepting's in perto Peno 973 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 14: to there and so touchdown Tisser sixty years on the 974 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 14: pick six. This place is a madhouse. 975 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: The Broncos fans. I think we're going that crazy because 976 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: they're getting used to Nick. But you know, with these 977 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: pick sixes, they're throwing out defensive Player of the Year 978 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: candidate and it's not that crazy. Broncos win thirty one 979 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: to thirteen, and I think the intensity of that celebration, 980 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: and of course the call you heard by Dave Logan 981 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: on Ka was. 982 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 5: Because they didn't expect it. 983 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: They were down thirteen to seven in a game where 984 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: bo Knicks keeps throwing interceptions and it just doesn't feel 985 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: like the Broncos day. And then suddenly an avalanche of 986 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: points and it all happened, really got kickstarted Patrick after 987 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor dropped that ball on what would have been 988 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: a long. 989 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 8: Touchdown, twenty four unanswered points and those two huge mistakes 990 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 8: by the Colts ends it dooms them as they kind 991 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 8: of severely wound their opportunity for a late season pushing 992 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 8: the AFC. The interceptions by Anthony Richardson of course held 993 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 8: him back as well. They wasted one of the worst 994 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 8: games that bow Nicks has played in two months for Denver. 995 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 9: When things look awkward in the backfield. 996 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 8: He had three interceptions, miscommunications, sideline arguments, the whole thing there. 997 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 8: He was pressured on less than eleven percent of his dropbacks, 998 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 8: and on those dropbacks without pressure, he was nineteen of thirty. 999 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 9: But the Colts led thirteen to seven in the third quarter. 1000 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 8: Jonathan Taylor on a play where he looks like twenty 1001 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 8: twenty two, Jonathan Taylor cuts it back, hits the sideline 1002 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 8: forty one yard touchdown. We've already left that game, and 1003 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 8: we're doing another highlight and I'm looking at the scoreboard 1004 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 8: and I'm like, why are their points not going on 1005 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 8: the scoreboard because he comes back. 1006 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,439 Speaker 9: We come back to the game. 1007 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 8: Jonathan Taylor's arm swings back and he drops the ball 1008 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 8: a fraction of a second before crossing the goal line. 1009 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 8: And then after the Broncos score, they're leading by four 1010 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 8: when Nick Benito intercepts. What we think because we went 1011 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 8: back and looked at it was a screen to Anthony 1012 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 8: Richardson that the Colts set up, and that's why the 1013 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 8: offensive line didn't block Nick Benito. But it would have 1014 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 8: been great if they did, because then they would have 1015 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 8: a chance to win the ball game. But they just 1016 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 8: kind of let him go and disaster strikes and just 1017 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 8: we think about, like historically Colts trick plays that could 1018 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 8: go horribly wrong. 1019 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 9: This one was worse than that one. 1020 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, because this one. 1021 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 9: Helps the season, like essentially end of the season today. 1022 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are six and eight, they are out, the 1023 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: Houston Texans are the AFC South champions. The Colts can 1024 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: still potentially get a wild card if the Chargers collapse 1025 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: down the stretch. That's really their hope. That's the Bengals 1026 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: hope who will get to later. But the division race 1027 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: is over. And you feel for Jonathan Taylor, yeah, because 1028 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: they did not score another point after that. And it's 1029 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: not like they didn't get opportunities. They got eight more 1030 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: drives after that, and that was a third quarter fumble, 1031 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,959 Speaker 1: and yet they actually had negative yardage for their next 1032 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: five drives, which included a couple fumbles, Richardson throws an 1033 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: interception at one point. It was kind of a full 1034 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: team collapse, And to Denver's credit, they are kind of 1035 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: the team, to me shook this season that lets other 1036 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: teams collapse in front of them. And even though Nicks 1037 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: had a terrible game, like the defense, which has been 1038 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: so good all year, stood up strong after that Taylor play. Man, 1039 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: it's hard not to go back to that player Taylor 1040 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: play and wonder what would have been because it was 1041 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: twenty would have been twenty to seven at that point. 1042 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, that's not the best compliment to give 1043 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 6: a team that's in the playoff fin I know Broncos 1044 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 6: fans will bristle at that, but it's accurate. I mean, 1045 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 6: if you look at their last two wins, it was 1046 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 6: against the Raiders and the Browns. We know how that 1047 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 6: Browns game ended with a pick six. Look, this is 1048 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 6: an example of a team like the Colts that have 1049 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 6: been grasping in straws all year. We had the carousel 1050 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 6: at quarterback, going to Joe Flacco thinking that was gonna work. 1051 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 6: It didn't go back to Richardson, and what you've gotten 1052 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 6: from him is spectacular play in small bits and a 1053 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 6: lot of uneven play in other areas, at which point 1054 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,919 Speaker 6: you then say, let's run a trick play to maybe 1055 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 6: set up a screen for our quarterback who may be 1056 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 6: a better runner than he is a thrower right now, 1057 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 6: because we don't know what else to do. And I 1058 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 6: think it starts with a mistake like Taylor fumbing the 1059 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 6: balt Of goal on which, by the way, not the 1060 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 6: only instance which that happened today. We'll get to that later, 1061 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 6: and then you just kind of it compounds from there, 1062 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 6: and it's a team that is six and eight. Essentially 1063 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 6: they defined their record with the way they conducted themselves today. 1064 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 6: It's unfortunate because I think they're more talented than that 1065 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 6: when Shane Stycken is a good coach, But what a 1066 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 6: bad decision in that situation to give that team that 1067 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 6: much juice on a day in which they weren't playing 1068 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 6: well to begin with. But credit to the Broncos, you know, 1069 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 6: they finished the game strong. They just needed somebody to 1070 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 6: help them break the day. 1071 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: Credit to Benito, especially because he ran He just said, 1072 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: like if that was a screen, he said, he read 1073 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: it like that, like why are they throwing that backwards? 1074 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 9: Literally? 1075 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 8: Even the Colts even read it better than the Colts 1076 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 8: who were running the play. He was more aware than 1077 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 8: literally anybody on the field, including perhaps maybe the Colts coaching. 1078 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 1: Still right, And the crazy thing is after the tailor 1079 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, drop fumble, you figure, okay, that then that's 1080 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: gonna swing the game. Denver must have taken advantage. No, 1081 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: they go four and out, they give their ball right back. 1082 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: The Colts then go three and out, give it right back. Well, okay, surely, 1083 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 1: now it's when the Broncos get going. No, that's actually 1084 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: when Bo Knicks threw his third interception. The very next play, 1085 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman fumbles the ball to give the Broncos the 1086 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: ball back. And okay, now finally Bo Knicks in this offense, 1087 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: they're going to take advantage. Nope, they go three and 1088 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: out and kick a field goal. So it was just 1089 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: in a punt their next position. It was like chance 1090 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: after chance after chance. So it's hard to know, like 1091 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: who to blame here, I don't even know, but I 1092 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: do know that you give the Broncos defense credit for 1093 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: how they closed out this. 1094 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 9: Yeah they did, and Locke was the player who got that. 1095 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 8: It was almost like not necessarily helmet on the football 1096 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 8: on MPJ, but it was more of a shoulder pad 1097 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 8: where pushed his arm back and the ball flies out 1098 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 8: that the Broncos recover. It's a it's off to make 1099 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 8: plays against this Broncos defense. I mean, we saw Jamis 1100 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 8: do it, but we also saw James turn the ball 1101 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 8: over right doing it on some very dangerous passes, which 1102 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 8: is what Vance Joseph puts you in position to do. 1103 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 8: And the way that this Colts team has operated all 1104 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 8: season long, where it's you know, they're either running the 1105 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 8: ball or they're taking deep shots like low completion probability 1106 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 8: shots where it all turns out kind of in the 1107 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 8: way you expected, where they have this high variance of 1108 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 8: outcomes and when it works, it looks great, but when 1109 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 8: it doesn't, it looks absolutely horrible. 1110 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 9: And it just didn't work for long stretches. 1111 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, bo Nicks ends up two for eight on passes 1112 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 1: over ten yards for thirty three yards, two for eight 1113 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 1: for thirty three yards, does get two touchdowns, but throws 1114 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: all three interceptions. The intermedia area especially rough, it was 1115 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: very similar. Actually, I was looking at the next gen 1116 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 1: sets Tatua's numbers over ten yards. He was three for 1117 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: ten with an interception. Just couldn't get anything going except 1118 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 1: for the short stuff. And yet they are basically locked 1119 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: in the playoffs now at nine and five, so they 1120 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: move up to the sixth seed. I wanted to circle 1121 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: back on what was happening with the Ravens too. They 1122 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: are at the five seed. They are one back of 1123 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers. They have a much better chance the Ravens 1124 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: do of now catching the Steelers. 1125 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 5: For the division. 1126 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: The Broncos are at nine and five at six the Chargers, 1127 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: who they play on Thursday Night that's a big game, 1128 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 1: are at eight and six. According to Next Gen Stats, 1129 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos have a ninety one percent chance to make 1130 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,919 Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Chargers have an eighty seven percent chance 1131 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. The Colts, Dolphins, and Bengals are 1132 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: all ten percent and under, down to six percent for 1133 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: the Bengals. So if one of those three teams could 1134 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: catch fire and get to nine wins, it's possible they 1135 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,760 Speaker 1: could win a tiebreaker over the Chargers of the Chargers 1136 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: stumble down the stretch and only get one win, which 1137 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: is it's certainly on the table. That was the Sunday 1138 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: Drive presented by the All New hybrid Toyota Camra. Whatever 1139 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: your vibe, it's a camera vibe. Learn more at Toyota 1140 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: dot com slash camery. Yes, the Chargers they had a 1141 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: data forget across the sidewalk. 1142 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 7: Shotgun looked the past. 1143 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,240 Speaker 12: Mayfield looking, goes the ball downfield toward Evans. 1144 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 5: He makes the catch, touchdown. 1145 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 16: Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Mike Evans two catches and the 1146 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 16: promised man today. 1147 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 7: Want to throw by Mayfield on third down a dozen. 1148 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,959 Speaker 1: Geene Decker haff with a thirty five yard touchdown throw 1149 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: to Mike Evans. Part of a magical day for Mike Evans. 1150 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: Forget about the injury report. He went nine for one 1151 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,720 Speaker 1: f nine and two touchdowns. Thousand yard paces back on, Patrick. 1152 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 8: Oh, back on in full effect as the drive summaries 1153 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 8: in the second half. How about this from Tampa Bay, 1154 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 8: say finished forty to seventeen. You think this will sustain 1155 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 8: the whole way? No, there was an interception in a 1156 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 8: field goal consecutively in the first half, second half, touchdown 1157 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 8: field goal, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, end of game. 1158 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 9: Baker Mayfield got hot. 1159 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 8: He got picked off by your guy t tar heap 1160 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 8: still and decided never again. Firing these balls to Mike Evans, 1161 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 8: and on the other side, the Chargers offense just kind 1162 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 8: of wilted and went away and did essentially nothing as 1163 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 8: the game ended, justin Herbert took a shot to his ankles. 1164 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 9: Oh in this game, slow to get up after that. 1165 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 8: Just a very uninspiring game from the Chargers offense at 1166 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 8: home in a week that had so much opportunity with 1167 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 8: the Broncos playing in that game against the Colts, They've 1168 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 8: got a game in the same window, and it was 1169 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 8: really just very, very disappointing versus a Bucks team that 1170 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 8: now can watch the Monday night football game for the 1171 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,959 Speaker 8: Falcons essentially without worry. 1172 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 9: Only good can come out of that for them. 1173 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, they could take a commanding two game lead in 1174 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 1: the division if the Falcons wind up losing that It's. 1175 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 5: Not like this was a blot throughout. 1176 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: The Bucks needed a field goal late in the second 1177 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: quarter to make the halftime score Chargers seventeen, Bucks thirteen. 1178 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: And to Liam Cohen's credit and Baker Mayfield's credit, this 1179 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: team has been so hot starting games all year, and 1180 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: they were fine starting games, but Baker had that interception 1181 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 1: starting this game. But they figured some things out This 1182 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: is only the third time in Jim Harbaugh's coaching history 1183 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: that his team's giving up over five hundred yards. It 1184 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: was only eight yards away from the worst game that 1185 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: an NFL team that he coached had. And this Bucks offense, 1186 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 1: despite not having Evans for much of the season, despite 1187 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 1: not having Godwin for most of the season, is a 1188 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: legit top five offense. And if they can get defensive 1189 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 1: play like this, I know they were going against a 1190 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 1: wounded animal a little bit here. 1191 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 5: They are kind of that team you don't want to face. 1192 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: And there are some numbers that show since about Week nine, 1193 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: their run defense has bounced back quite a bit. It's 1194 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: partly because of their schedule, but it's bounced back quite 1195 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: a bit. And their pressure rate and they're sending lots 1196 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: of pressure shook. They're not getting winning a lot of 1197 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: one ones, but their pressure rate has you know, gone 1198 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: through the roof over the last four or five weeks, 1199 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: and lately the underlying metrics show that this team is 1200 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: one of the best teams in football. 1201 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, although it didn't today. 1202 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 6: They only recorded ten pressures for a percentage of twenty seven, 1203 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 6: but that didn't matter because they capitalized against an offense 1204 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 6: This has been my fear. You talk about wounded animal. 1205 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 6: This has been my fear at the Chargers for a while. 1206 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 6: You don't have JK. Dobbins, you have no running game 1207 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,760 Speaker 6: to speak of. You get Lad McCaughey back, he catches 1208 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 6: five passes for fifty eight yards in a touchdown, but 1209 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 6: your offense just enters a massive run. You want to 1210 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 6: talk about being a drive chart guy. While those drives 1211 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 6: that Patrick just listed all the touchdown and field goal 1212 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 6: and touchdown good stuff on the On the Chargers side, 1213 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 6: we got punt, punt, interception, down downs, fumble. This is 1214 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 6: the dark side of what the Chargers offense could be 1215 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 6: if they're not able to establish a rhythm early, and 1216 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 6: that's in a game that was still only a four 1217 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,240 Speaker 6: point game just before halftime. That's where I get concerned 1218 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 6: about them. I feel like they're ceiling remains low, especially 1219 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 6: when they don't have the ground game to speak of, 1220 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 6: which is why I wouldn't quite settle the AFC playoff 1221 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 6: race just yet. And against the Buccaneers team that I 1222 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 6: think we've known this all year. This is their potential. 1223 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 6: You said it weeks ago. They're at offensive team first, 1224 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,959 Speaker 6: and they need to embrace that well, they certainly. 1225 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 7: Embraced it today. 1226 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 6: And Baker Mayfield finally gets past his streak of throwing 1227 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 6: picks and you know, trying to make something out of 1228 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 6: nothing too often. Instead he lights it up and the 1229 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 6: Buccaneers are looking. 1230 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: Enjoy it, kind of crush like jump up on the table, Patrick, 1231 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: I know. 1232 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 8: Touf on the table. I'm just wondering because you're looking 1233 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 8: at me. Yeah, I don't have an apology to offer 1234 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 8: to MV Baker. They got a great ah, they got 1235 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 8: MVB y MVB. But there was a great rep where 1236 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 8: on the first Mike Evans touchdown where you just see 1237 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,439 Speaker 8: how this offense can operate when they protect Baker, because 1238 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 8: when Baker is protected, he doesn't necessarily file if they 1239 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 8: handle it and do all these try hard and do 1240 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 8: too much plays where when you see it in rhythm, 1241 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 8: it's it's beautiful. It's a beautiful machine. And that's how 1242 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 8: you get twenty two of twenty seven for four touchdowns 1243 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 8: with that one mistake. 1244 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: He is so good when getting rid of the ball 1245 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: at the back of his drive and it's similar, but 1246 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: I think more fun to watch than Tua. The way 1247 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: this offense has been running. I think Liam Cohen, for instance, 1248 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: like I think he's done a better as good a 1249 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,919 Speaker 1: job as as any offensive coordinator out there. Like even 1250 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: the Jalen McMillan touchdown. I mean, this guy's just a 1251 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: touchdown machine at this point. That speaks a little bit 1252 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: to the scheme is creating open receivers sometimes. I mean 1253 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: McMillan had no one anywhere near him because they executed 1254 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: a perfect rub. But also Mayfield, you know, he doesn't 1255 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: put too much air under that ball, and he hits 1256 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: McMillan in stride with some good velocity and he just 1257 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: makes it look easy. Over ten yards per throw for 1258 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: Baker today, Bucky Irving returned in this game, and yeah, 1259 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,919 Speaker 1: they ended up with two twenty three on the ground, 1260 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: twenty five from Baker, including a twenty yard scamper, Like 1261 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: he'll throw that in there. Rashad White, you know, one 1262 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: of the better receiving backs in the league. This This 1263 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: Bucks team is eight and six, and yes, the Chargers 1264 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,280 Speaker 1: only three games left. We'll talk about them a lot 1265 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: this week because they're on Thursday night and that's a 1266 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: big game. We got men A Cimes on the show. 1267 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: That's going to be a really fun one they do 1268 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: finish after that game with Patriots and Raiders. 1269 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 6: And oh they need that, Oh they need opened the 1270 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 6: door because I have something to offer to you. Greg, Okay, 1271 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 6: the number one Baker hater. We got to commission a 1272 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 6: group of third or fourth graders to compose some sort 1273 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 6: of construction paper hat that you have to wear on 1274 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 6: the show. If Baker Mayfield throws for forty touchdown passes, 1275 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 6: he just got passed his season high his twenty eight 1276 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 6: touchdown passes last year. 1277 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 9: He just broke that. 1278 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 6: Today he hits forty. We got to get them to 1279 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 6: make you a hat you gotta wear on the show. 1280 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 5: What is that even? What is that a hat? Okay, 1281 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 5: send me a paper. 1282 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 7: Hack and wear your crowd that was Brown is the 1283 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 7: biggest Baker hater. 1284 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 5: I am not the biggest Baker hater. I'm not a 1285 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 5: Baker hater at all. 1286 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 1: All I was was pushing back on the MVP talk 1287 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: and he was he was just driving me a little 1288 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: crazy lately. No, their schedule, that was the Chargers schedule, 1289 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: I was. I was reading, So they're gonna like the 1290 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: Bengals or the Dolphins, any team that wants to try 1291 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,439 Speaker 1: to run the table and hope for a Chargers loss 1292 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: is gonna need a Patriots or Raiders home win most 1293 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: likely or certainly on Thursday Night, they're gonna need a 1294 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,439 Speaker 1: Broncos win. The Bucks, on the other hand, are gonna 1295 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: be heavy favorites their final three games. The Falcons are 1296 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: in a world of for now. They are at Dallas 1297 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football, assuming that stays there in Week 1298 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: sixteen and then Panthers and Bucks to end the season. 1299 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they get through all those games, but they 1300 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: will be favored in all of them. 1301 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 7: The performance are making those hats. 1302 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, the performance by the Chargers today, I understand it's 1303 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 8: it's the Raiders at a late season game against Jack 1304 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 8: May and the Patriots. 1305 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 9: I wouldn't chalk those up at the No. 1306 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 5: No, they can loseen to anyone. 1307 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 9: Chargers today. 1308 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, for their defense to get exposed like that, Joey 1309 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Bosa has not given them anything. They had another injury, 1310 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Cam Heart left at cornerback, and then their offense it 1311 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: felt to me like Lad McConkie is great, but he's like, 1312 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how many drives ended with an incompletion 1313 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: to mcconkeye because there's no one else to throw to 1314 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: and Herbert's just trying to give his one guy a shot. 1315 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: So the Chargers lose, and that was good news for 1316 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Bengals fans who have not last lost hope. Let's go 1317 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: to Tennessee. 1318 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 12: Levis under center again, turns around, fakes a handoff to Pollard, 1319 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 12: wants to. 1320 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 9: Throw fires holder Stone bating it back. 1321 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 7: Gino's at the twenty five twenty battle in front to block. 1322 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 5: He's to the ten the five to the doll line, touchdown. 1323 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 13: Bendals Ginos Stone with a peck six and the Bengals 1324 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 13: have their fourth takeaway. 1325 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 9: Of the day. 1326 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know Joe Burrow, he's great in all 1327 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: but let's give the Bengals defense some love. 1328 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 5: Dan Horde, Dave Lapham, w c k Y. 1329 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: Will Levis I think had about thirteen fourteen dropbacks in 1330 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: this game. 1331 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 5: He had four turnovers, so that's that's not a good thing. 1332 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 1: The Bengals get the victory thirty seven to twenty seven. 1333 01:01:59,240 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 5: They hold off a. 1334 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: Late rally by Mason Rudolph and they get to six 1335 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,919 Speaker 1: and eight and they remain alive because of an opportunistic 1336 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: defense shook. 1337 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 6: How many turnovers qualifies for you to declare the game 1338 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 6: drunk because I have a number in my head and 1339 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 6: this game exceeded that number. 1340 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 7: Okay, ten total turnovers, no two teams. 1341 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 6: Every time you looked at the game, somebody was turning 1342 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 6: the ball over, and most of the time the criminal 1343 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 6: was Will Levis. 1344 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 7: He was the guy who was guilty of turning the 1345 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:27,919 Speaker 7: ball over. He threw three picks. 1346 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 6: He had a great start, okay, and then he instantly 1347 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 6: just fell apart and he regressed dramatically to the Will 1348 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 6: Levis we knew prior to his recent stretch of relative success. 1349 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 6: Whereas and it gave the Bengals an opportunity defensively to 1350 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 6: actually build some steam because we know this Bengals defense 1351 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 6: has been maligned all year, right fully, so they haven't 1352 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 6: been able to stop nosably Will. They stopped the Titans 1353 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,840 Speaker 6: on multiple possessions today. They were opportunistic. It allowed Joe 1354 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 6: Burrow to even shake off some of his interceptions because 1355 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 6: he threw a couple of those as well. And the 1356 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 6: Bengals outlast the Titans team that they're just better than 1357 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 6: on paper, and when it comes to the details in 1358 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 6: execution in a game, that it's worth the rewatch because 1359 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 6: it was just chaotic doesn't really say much about either team. 1360 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 1: Though, Okay, it's worth the rewatch, if only because of 1361 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: the Tovandre sweat fumble. 1362 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, recovery. Let's listen to that second and. 1363 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 12: Gold at the nine, the firm looking stepping up in trouble. 1364 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 16: Shack, Oh, take it away. It's sweat coming the under 1365 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 16: one Skip Moore fifteen twenty twenty five, Sweat thirty thirty five. 1366 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 16: It is finally pushed out of mounts by Bolt sit 1367 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 16: at the forty. Titans get the quarterback sack. It's steal 1368 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 16: the ball. 1369 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Great call there by Mike Keith and a yelp midplay 1370 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: by Dave McGinnis on WGFX. That is a three hundred 1371 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: and seventy pounds man at minimum, because that's what he's 1372 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: listed at, with a nasty stiff. 1373 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 5: Arm like he changed the ball like his hands. He 1374 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 5: he knew the assignment. That was amazing. 1375 01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: They were up fourteen the seven, by the way at 1376 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: that point of the game and had just taken the 1377 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: ball away and. 1378 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 8: Mike Keith, you know, he's looking forward to saying touchdown 1379 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 8: Titans on the play, so he just said stiff arm. 1380 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 8: But this is Alex Kappa, the offensive lineman coming. This 1381 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 8: is a full grown man coming to make a tackle 1382 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 8: and Mike Keith maybe he's seen Derrick Henry do a 1383 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 8: lot of stiff arms and so he's seen the best 1384 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 8: ever to do it. But this was from Defandre Sweat, 1385 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 8: and I just love the reaction from the sideline. Yes, 1386 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 8: because Sweat, you know, clearly awful, awful mistake, you know, 1387 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 8: driving while intoxicated, didn't know if he was going to 1388 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 8: get drafted. 1389 01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 9: The Titans believed in him. 1390 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 8: He's been embraced by the team, and you could just 1391 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 8: see the reaction from all of his teammates after that 1392 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 8: incredible play where they love that the man that he's 1393 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,919 Speaker 8: become this season and making a play on that where 1394 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 8: it's just another one of these moments from this drunk 1395 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 8: football game that shook out the pleasure of watching, where 1396 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 8: it's like that that almost becomes a footnote to every 1397 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 8: thing that we saw in this game, with these teams 1398 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 8: going up and down the field offense and defense. 1399 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 1: Right Burrow, you mentioned like had had three turnovers in 1400 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 1: this game, so you know his his MVP candidacy to 1401 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 1: get on the ballot. It takes a little bit of 1402 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: a hit. A couple of turnovers last couple of weeks. 1403 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: He did throw a touchdown though to Sam Hubbard, so 1404 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: he just like we didn't even mention that as part 1405 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: of the way. 1406 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 5: This game was drawn. Hubbard got hurt late in the game, 1407 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 5: but he said it was worth it. 1408 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: It felt good to be out there contribute to a 1409 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 1: win as an offensive weapon, Sam Hubbard. 1410 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, true weapon. 1411 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 6: Like we haven't seen a weapon playing out of position 1412 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 6: since the days of Mike Vrabel with the Patriota. And 1413 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 6: this catch was tight end like top tier tight end worthy, 1414 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 6: a fantastic grab. And that's when I knew this game 1415 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 6: needed to be cut off. And that was long before 1416 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 6: it was over. A heck of a kind of a back, 1417 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 6: weird back and forth. But I will say this another 1418 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,320 Speaker 6: example of how I knew this game was drunk Jordan 1419 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,840 Speaker 6: Battle recovers a fubble, goes all the way back to 1420 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 6: the end zone and then loses the ball as he's 1421 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 6: crossing the goal line and fumbles it out of the 1422 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 6: back of the end zone. So there was another example 1423 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 6: actually in another game that we've yet to talk about too. 1424 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 6: I just thought about that off the stap my head. 1425 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 6: It's just been a crazy day guys. 1426 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 5: It really has. 1427 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: And if if you're a Bengals fan, I said, you're 1428 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna get to that week seventeen, you're gonna be mathematically alive. 1429 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 5: You got the Browns next week. Just get to seven 1430 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 5: and eight. 1431 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Just these games are a little more fun if you're 1432 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: not mathematically eliminated. The Titans long eliminated. They stayed in 1433 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 1: the top six. I'm looking at Tankathon. It's amazing that 1434 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: three and eleven only give gets you the six pick. 1435 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: Right now, the Browns are three and eleven and they 1436 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 1: have the seven pick. So you know they didn't they 1437 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 1: didn't change that today. But the Bengals got a victory. 1438 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Let's go to a team which is is much more 1439 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 1: in the wild card race. Yes, the Arizona Cardinals. 1440 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 12: Pistol snap Murray has a handoff Connor, straight ahead touchdown, 1441 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 12: James Connor two touchdowns here on the fourth Cardinals extend 1442 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 12: their lead to twenty nine to ten with three twenty 1443 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 12: seven ago. 1444 01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 9: Wind them up. 1445 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 13: If the pistol handed off, let James Connor just jump 1446 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 13: over the a gap touchdown. 1447 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: That is Dave Pash and our friend Ron wolf Lee. 1448 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Some games don't really have like a great play or 1449 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: a highlight that. 1450 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 5: Makes a lot of sense. 1451 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 1: This was one of those games I watched it pretty closely. 1452 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Thirty to seventeen Cardinals beat the Patriots in a game 1453 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't that close. The Patriots get a couple touchdowns 1454 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: in garbage time to make it look better, but kind 1455 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 1: of a whole hum game for the Cardinals to get 1456 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: them to seven and seven. They ran the ball well, 1457 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: James Connor with one hundred and ten yards in two touchdowns. 1458 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray played mistake free football, wouldn't stay it. It 1459 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 1: made me feel like that much better about where their 1460 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 1: offense is at. They couldn't quite finish drive, settled for 1461 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 1: some field goals, but ultimately you win easily. A result 1462 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 1: like this almost just makes me think about Man, if 1463 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 1: they hadn't lost one of those close games against the Seahawks, 1464 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: things would have felt a little different. 1465 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 5: But they still are having an uphill battle in the division. 1466 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's so close that there were that third and 1467 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 8: seven against Sam Darnold and then Minnesota Vikings could have 1468 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 8: changed their postseason. And honestly, we may look back and 1469 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 8: that may have been one of the most consequential third 1470 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 8: downs that we've seen all season. Long, but Kyler comes 1471 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 8: back in this game twenty three to thirty. Did take 1472 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 8: a massive shot in this game. Clayton Tune came in 1473 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 8: and played a couple of possessions. But James Connor averaged 1474 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 8: almost seven yards of carry against this Patriots team, and 1475 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 8: there were some late I would say garbage down points 1476 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 8: from New England where this was. This was pretty much 1477 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 8: out of question for the Patriots with a lot of 1478 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 8: time remaining in the third quarter. 1479 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a great sign when your quarterback get 1480 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: goes into halftime without an incompletion. That's Drake may and 1481 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: you're losing thirteen to three. Like Drake, Drake may Can 1482 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 1: continues to somehow like set new boundaries of how totally solid, 1483 01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 1: if not great, he looks. 1484 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 5: And he had his team's not even competitive. 1485 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,639 Speaker 1: His one interception on the day, second time in three 1486 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 1: weeks this has happened, came off a drop of kish 1487 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: On booty. So it was like even the one box 1488 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,600 Speaker 1: score problem that he had, he only had four incompletions 1489 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,960 Speaker 1: two hundred yards came off a drop. 1490 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 8: A drop gives Kaishan Boody maybe too much credit there 1491 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 8: that the ball's like low and outside and Booty goes 1492 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 8: down to ranch it and instead of like the ball 1493 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 8: being dropped, he lifts it up. 1494 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,839 Speaker 1: Yes, it kind of tosses it, but that was exactly 1495 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: what happened a couple of weeks ago too. Very strangely, 1496 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: it was like a play where his own receiver kind 1497 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 1: of threw it into the air. But look, Trey McBride 1498 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: goes nine for eighty seven. 1499 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 5: Shook. 1500 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison could not get anything done on one on 1501 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 1: one matchups against Christian Gonzales, like Gonzales just shut him 1502 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 1: down like that. That was a little frustrating, I think 1503 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals who kept going to that matchup in 1504 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,639 Speaker 1: the red zone and Gonzalez just kept winning it over 1505 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:51,040 Speaker 1: and over. 1506 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 5: But it keeps them alive. 1507 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: I shouldn't compare them totally to the Bengals that they're 1508 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 1: in a division where yes, the Rams got to eight 1509 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,759 Speaker 1: and six here, but and they got swept by the Seahawks, 1510 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: so that's problematic. But there's still three weeks ago, potentially 1511 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: only one loss behind they are in the mix. 1512 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad you actually brought up the Marvin Harrison 1513 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 6: junior targets because I honestly think that as the Cardinals 1514 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 6: offense which struggles mightily on third down. I only went 1515 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 6: ten for fifteen today, but when it comes to third 1516 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 6: and long, it's a Kyler dropped back on a prayer 1517 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,639 Speaker 6: most times, and it has been for most of the season. 1518 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 5: I think that the. 1519 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 6: Element that is missing they could really elevate this offense 1520 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,720 Speaker 6: is the inclusion of Marvin Harrison Junior at an efficient rate. 1521 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 6: And the reason I bring that up is because, yes, 1522 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 6: Christian Gonzalez played great coverage on him, but Marvin Harrison 1523 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 6: Junior is a guy who is known for winning fifty 1524 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 6: to fifties winning jump balls in college. He's an artist 1525 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,599 Speaker 6: when it comes to catching passes in the end zone, 1526 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 6: especially in the corner of the end zone, and he 1527 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 6: had two great looks at it, and Kyler doesn't put 1528 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 6: it in the right spot. So if I have a 1529 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 6: project for these Cardinals if they missed the playoffs, because 1530 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 6: they still you know, it's going to be a little 1531 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 6: bit rough here trying to get in there with the 1532 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 6: way the division is set. As you just described the 1533 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 6: project for them in the offseason, how do you get 1534 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 6: better Kyler and Marves and Harrison Junior figure out how 1535 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 6: to throw those balls to him? 1536 01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 7: Because If they. 1537 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 6: Could do that, and they've done it in small spots 1538 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 6: this season, I think they would be so much better offensively. 1539 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,640 Speaker 6: They're efectively like eliminating one of their best weapons on 1540 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,240 Speaker 6: offense right now, and when the running game doesn't work, 1541 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 6: they're not going They're not playing well. 1542 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 2: Now. 1543 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,640 Speaker 7: The running game work. Today they played the Patriots and 1544 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 7: it all worked out for them and they win the game. 1545 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 7: But that's just where they need to be better. That's 1546 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 7: where they can take their next step. 1547 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 6: And it was frustrating to see that today against the 1548 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 6: Patriots team that you know you put thirty points on, 1549 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 6: but you probably could have won this by more. 1550 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 8: The best play for Marvin Harrison Junior today it was 1551 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 8: a twenty one yarder where they had him lined up 1552 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 8: in the slot, which is something they do. He was 1553 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,720 Speaker 8: lined up in the slot ten times, but they were 1554 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 8: able to drag Marvin across the formation kind of get 1555 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,560 Speaker 8: some new separation because Gonzales was on them there, but 1556 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 8: there was a lot of traffic to run through. Kyler 1557 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,680 Speaker 8: hits him on the catch and run where That's what 1558 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 8: I've wanted, just more layup short opportunities for Marvin Harrison Junior, 1559 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 8: just to get him involved in the offense. So it's 1560 01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 8: not all you know, deep balls to the corner and 1561 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,200 Speaker 8: back shoulder throws where it's like this high degree of 1562 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 8: difficulty where yeah, you can do that when you have 1563 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 8: a top ten draft pick who has all the talent 1564 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 8: in the world, but also let's just get them the ball. 1565 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,760 Speaker 8: Like all these balls to Jamar Chase aren't necessarily like 1566 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 8: high difficulty throws. Some of them are very simple, close 1567 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 8: to the lawne of scrimmage where I would like to 1568 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 8: see Marvin involved in more. 1569 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they feel better. They were, they were on along 1570 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 1: losing streak. They won easy, They beat up on a 1571 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,800 Speaker 1: bad team. I think this is a very worrisome result 1572 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 1: for Drod Mayo coming out of a bye week and 1573 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: you looked worse. 1574 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,759 Speaker 5: You had no answers. 1575 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: Defensively, the offensive line was crazy bad early in this 1576 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,639 Speaker 1: game in terms of the penalties and a bad snap 1577 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 1: and just giving up free rushers. It looked like they 1578 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 1: had made no progress at all. There were some reports 1579 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 1: over the weekend from the athletic that they are that 1580 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,560 Speaker 1: they are committed to Drod Mayo, and I believe it, 1581 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 1: but a performance like this makes you wonder certainly about 1582 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator and Alex van Pelt not not progressing 1583 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: or improving as the season's gone along, and we really 1584 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,280 Speaker 1: haven't seen that. After the game, they asked Drod Mayo 1585 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:03,120 Speaker 1: about a sequentz where they got down inside the five 1586 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 1: yard line and they got it to third and one 1587 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 1: and they ran at two straight times and they couldn't 1588 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 1: pick up a yard, which is the story of this 1589 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Patriots season. But someone asked them about not using Drake 1590 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: may at all, which they really haven't as a runner 1591 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 1: in the red zone all season, and they said, you know, 1592 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,719 Speaker 1: we've seen may is such so effective as a runner, 1593 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 1: how come you know not using him there? And Gid 1594 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 1: Mayo said, you said it, not me, which doesn't bode 1595 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 1: well for Alex van Pelt either, speaking of his coaching 1596 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 1: staffs that have been in a little trouble this year. 1597 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Let's go to Jacksonville, which was a fun game. Either one, 1598 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean one's gone and the other one. 1599 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go in. 1600 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 12: Motion from left to right, those Isaiah Davis Rogers back 1601 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 12: to throw well protected fires one up the sea from Adams. 1602 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 3: At not the twenty ten five spins, heads up touchdown, 1603 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 3: It's a jet touchdown. A fun day Adams streaks down 1604 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 3: the middle and Aaron Rodgers puts it right in his 1605 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,439 Speaker 3: hands and the Jets happily three twenty four to go. 1606 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 1: The Jets go on to win thirty two to twenty five. 1607 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: Fun to hear a little Bob was shus in on 1608 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 1: WAXQ having a little fun. 1609 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 5: Why not. 1610 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,760 Speaker 1: It's been a tough season and when you can watch 1611 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams go nine for one, ninety eight and two 1612 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns in a throwback performance, I mean he and Aaron 1613 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers put this team on their backs. In the second half. 1614 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:38,600 Speaker 1: Adams was physical, he was awesome, and they stop a 1615 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,719 Speaker 1: late bid from Mac Jones. A lot happened actually after 1616 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 1: that play, because that made it twenty five to twenty two. 1617 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 1: The Jaguars did respond tie the game of the field goal. 1618 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,799 Speaker 1: The Jets have another quick touchdown drive which DeVante Adams 1619 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,679 Speaker 1: really set up Priests Hall and then finally Mac Jones 1620 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 1: throws the interception to Sass Gardner. Jets get the victory, 1621 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,680 Speaker 1: and I don't know if we have many big takeaways 1622 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,800 Speaker 1: from this game other than Aaron Rodgers is playing his 1623 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 1: best football at the very end of the season, which 1624 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 1: is going to help his chances of getting a good 1625 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 1: job next year or getting a starting job. 1626 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 5: That's what I believe. Does anyone care to disagree with me? 1627 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 7: No, he where's the job going to be? 1628 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:22,600 Speaker 9: I don't know. 1629 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:23,120 Speaker 5: Somewhere. 1630 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 7: That's awesome. 1631 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 5: He moved. 1632 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 1: I thought he's moved much better over the last couple 1633 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,640 Speaker 1: of weeks. You know, the matchups helped DeVante wouldn't have 1634 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 1: been as open maybe against some other teams. But Rogers 1635 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: has looked good. There's no point in like pushing back 1636 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 1: from the tape. He's looked pretty good. He's definitely looked 1637 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,360 Speaker 1: the best that he's looked the last three weeks in 1638 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 1: terms of movement, in terms of ball placement, and he 1639 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 1: actually could have had a bigger day if Davante started 1640 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: off the game kind of slow. He had a couple drops. 1641 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 1: One would have been a tough catch, but it would 1642 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 1: have been a big play. Another one was a flat 1643 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: out drop. And I'm thinking, man, is the years catching 1644 01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: up to DeVante because he had a quiet first half 1645 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 1: and then the second half he's. 1646 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 9: Just Yeah, he was one hundred ninety eight yards in 1647 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 9: the second half. Oh my god for DeVante Adams. 1648 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,360 Speaker 8: That's and essentially you get to one thirty and he 1649 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,920 Speaker 8: has the fifty plus yarder where if he gets in 1650 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,760 Speaker 8: the end zone, he's even two hundred yards there and 1651 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 8: three touchdowns in this game for the Jets, where you're 1652 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,719 Speaker 8: you're getting essentially outdueled by mac Jones during large portions 1653 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 8: of the game before Davante kind of wakes up and 1654 01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,719 Speaker 8: you know, mac Jones eventually regresses and throws an easy 1655 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 8: interception to Sauce Gardner to close the game out where 1656 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 8: he's back pedaling backwards. But yeah, Aaron Rodgers is good. 1657 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,639 Speaker 8: He's incredibly annoying to hear him talk about literally anything. Yes, 1658 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 8: but he deserves a starting job somewhere and he's going 1659 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 8: to get a lot of attention. He's going to be 1660 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 8: on TV every week. But all that being said, he's 1661 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,719 Speaker 8: not the worst part of this team. 1662 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 11: No. 1663 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,680 Speaker 1: They are terrible in these one score games, and they 1664 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 1: finally found a team that was even worse. The Jaguars 1665 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,200 Speaker 1: have lost eight games by one score this year. They're 1666 01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 1: two and eight in those games, so most of their 1667 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: games are close. If you get twenty five points and 1668 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 1: you get mac Jones to lead you to more than 1669 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 1: four hundred yards like usually you would, that's gotta. 1670 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 5: Be good enough. 1671 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 1: It's a bad sign for the Jets defense that they 1672 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 1: were letting Mac Jones clown them on the ground for 1673 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,760 Speaker 1: much of the game. He had twenty nine yards on 1674 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,840 Speaker 1: the ground. He who is the guy Sherwood for the Jets. 1675 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 1: That Mac Jones actually pulled like a Madden spin move 1676 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,600 Speaker 1: on him in the open field and sent the linebacker 1677 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: just flying by him. And I was like, wow, that 1678 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 1: is That's gonna be a tough moment in the film room, 1679 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 1: especially after win. 1680 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 5: Now you can have a little fun with it. The 1681 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 5: Jets can. 1682 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:40,640 Speaker 1: But they outlasted him in a shootout thirty two to 1683 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty five to go to four and ten, And yeah, 1684 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 1: I was talking about Tankathon. With that win, the Jets 1685 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: fall all the way to number eight. Jaguars right now 1686 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 1: at number four Patriots, who we just talked about at 1687 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: number three, but is very tightly bunched that it wouldn't 1688 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 1: surprise me if the Jets win another game here down 1689 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 1: the stretch. All right, we're going to say goodbye to 1690 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:06,680 Speaker 1: our friend Patrick Claybond. How are you feeling today just 1691 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:11,800 Speaker 1: about life, about football, about NFL daily and your contribution 1692 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:12,719 Speaker 1: to it overall. 1693 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 8: Fortunate to exist in this universe, where existing is decidedly 1694 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,680 Speaker 8: not an option in any number of capacities. I'm here 1695 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,960 Speaker 8: and I'm amongst friends, and we got to watch football today, 1696 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 8: including Tim Boyle. The more hair raising, conspiracy laden ideas 1697 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,640 Speaker 8: Tim Boyle is still starting football games. 1698 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 9: Yeah, coming up next week. 1699 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Starting existence also not guaranteed, like we as Kyle Shanahan 1700 01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 1: is you is want to point out it's true, we 1701 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:42,680 Speaker 1: hope you're back next week. 1702 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 5: It's not guaranteed. I shouldn't put that out. 1703 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 9: It's short. 1704 01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 1: I just made Eric very uncomfortable. Fact there, don't worry. 1705 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,080 Speaker 9: If you're listening to this knock on wood, you know 1706 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,840 Speaker 9: somebody you know, things could go wrong. 1707 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,320 Speaker 1: That's I bet more you just maybe maybe there's a 1708 01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 1: power outage or something like that, and we can't here. 1709 01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 1: Nick Schuck's gonna rejoin me for Sunday night football. But 1710 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 1: when we come back from the break, we're actually going 1711 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 1: to talk to our friend Kevin Patra for. 1712 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,679 Speaker 5: A couple of games. 1713 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:21,600 Speaker 8: See that. This is it. 1714 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 5: Two point diversion. 1715 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 9: Rattler's in the gun. Jamal Williams is the best in motion. 1716 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:28,599 Speaker 9: LaRue just scored the touchdown. 1717 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 8: Rattler, rolla, you was right, look a fiery throws black Blain. 1718 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,040 Speaker 5: Washington went twenty to nineteen. 1719 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 9: Whoa drink? 1720 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 13: Wow? 1721 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 5: Wow is right? Bram Weinstein and London Fletcher w b 1722 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 5: I G. 1723 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:52,599 Speaker 1: The Saints somehow got the game down to a situation 1724 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,840 Speaker 1: where they went for two with no time remaining on 1725 01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 1: the clock to win the game. 1726 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 5: It just didn't happen for him. Washington wins twenty to nineteen. 1727 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 1: And yes, our friend Kevin Patra is back on the 1728 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: show from Detroit and on a day Patra we were 1729 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,360 Speaker 1: just talking about it where there weren't many close games. 1730 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 1: You got the best end number, So congratulations for that. Yeah, 1731 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 1: what happened there? 1732 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 17: The agenda is back on Baby Okay, Well, the I 1733 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,760 Speaker 17: mean the first half was really dull. 1734 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:27,680 Speaker 5: It was pretty dull. 1735 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:32,640 Speaker 17: Jake Hayner was It felt like it was like in 1736 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,800 Speaker 17: high school and the varsity team's quarterback got suspended for 1737 01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 17: a half, so they called up the jv quarterback to 1738 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 17: play the first half, and then they got the real 1739 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 17: quarterback in for the second half and they started making place. 1740 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,599 Speaker 17: As soon as Rattler came in at halftime, the offense 1741 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 17: got jumped started and he made plays. He credited him 1742 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:52,960 Speaker 17: the last time I mean, it was stats weren't great. 1743 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 17: He had forty seven percent completion percentage. He missed some throws, 1744 01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,880 Speaker 17: but considering you know, Alvin Kamara went out with the 1745 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:03,360 Speaker 17: groin injury and who throwing two? But he he made mvs, 1746 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 17: made a couple of new big plays and he marched 1747 01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,200 Speaker 17: him right down the field with the game on the line. 1748 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,479 Speaker 17: And I thought it was the right call for Rizzy 1749 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,720 Speaker 17: to go for two because in overtime, if you're you know, 1750 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 17: you don't have less talent, you know, I would rather 1751 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 17: go down to one play. And he had been on 1752 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,639 Speaker 17: such a hot streak on that drive that I thought 1753 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,680 Speaker 17: it was a smart smart move didn't work out for him, 1754 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,400 Speaker 17: but smart move, especially given their season. 1755 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,600 Speaker 1: Yes, Cedric Wilson ends up with a passing touchdown on 1756 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 1: a great trap. 1757 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:29,400 Speaker 9: It was a beautiful pass. 1758 01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 1: Here's a really good throw on a twenty ward yard throw. 1759 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,080 Speaker 1: But Ratler gets a touchdown to one hundred and thirty 1760 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,680 Speaker 1: five yards. And yes, you mentioned the agenda, which was 1761 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:43,559 Speaker 1: a bubbling subplot in Saints Twitter and on NFL Daily 1762 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 1: to get Rattler into the lineup. And you do wonder 1763 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,640 Speaker 1: if he's going to be the quarterback the rest of 1764 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,680 Speaker 1: the way, or do they try to bring Derek Carr back. 1765 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 1: Just let's put a pin in that for a second, 1766 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: because that decision at the end of the game by Rizzy, 1767 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,479 Speaker 1: I think it's the right move. It's disappointing for Rizzy, 1768 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,160 Speaker 1: who's trying to pull off a Hail Mary to you know, 1769 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 1: remain their head coach going into next year. And it 1770 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 1: reminds me of the first time this ever happened, which 1771 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: is do you remember it the first time an NFL 1772 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,680 Speaker 1: head coach ever went for two at the end of 1773 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 1: the game to win the game. No, it was John 1774 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 1: Gruden and the Bucks. Because you know, I'm old enough 1775 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I remember when there weren't two point conversions, like it 1776 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a thing, and it was such a big deal. 1777 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,320 Speaker 1: The first time ever that a team went for two 1778 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 1: at the end to win it. John Gruden did it 1779 01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 1: as a coach of the Bucks and they did win 1780 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 1: the game. I think it was like two thousand and five. 1781 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,040 Speaker 1: It was late period Gruden with the Bucks, but they 1782 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 1: got it done. Unfortunately that wasn't the case. And it's 1783 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,560 Speaker 1: a good thing for the Commanders because this would have 1784 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,120 Speaker 1: been a nasty loss. I gotta admit I stopped paying 1785 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 1: attention to this game when it was twenty to seven 1786 01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Just felt pretty over, like what 1787 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,760 Speaker 1: happened here? And are you concerned at all about the commanders? 1788 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,759 Speaker 17: No, because Jaden Daniels once again proved he's the offensive 1789 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,640 Speaker 17: rood the year. There's no doubt in my mind about that. 1790 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,839 Speaker 17: If there was any before for anyone, he's He commanded 1791 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,880 Speaker 17: the offense with a plumb early. They jumped out to 1792 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,760 Speaker 17: a big lead, but they had issues on the offensive line. 1793 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,680 Speaker 17: Not having Tyler Biattish out there was huge. He got 1794 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,280 Speaker 17: sacked eight times. You could just see the offensive line 1795 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,120 Speaker 17: was just a mess without the center, like you know, 1796 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,760 Speaker 17: having you know, control over who, what the protections were 1797 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 17: and such. I'm not sure how much Daniels is involved 1798 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,640 Speaker 17: in that sort of thing with Cliff Kingsbury, but that 1799 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,680 Speaker 17: the pressure was an issue and they kind of just 1800 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 17: took their foot off the gas. It really felt like 1801 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 17: the offense got a little laccadaisical there until the end, 1802 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 17: and then they pulled off a field goal drive to 1803 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,120 Speaker 17: just give themselves enough wiggle room till they didn't burn it. 1804 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 17: But Jayden Daniels, I mean, he made so many like 1805 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,040 Speaker 17: ridiculous darts over in the middle, that anticipatory throws. But 1806 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 17: that's who you want to see. And he used his legs. 1807 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,120 Speaker 17: He was their leading rusher. They couldn't get anything going 1808 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 17: on the ground, which I mean the Saints defense is 1809 01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,040 Speaker 17: no slouch. There might be dismissed by a lot, but 1810 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,519 Speaker 17: there's still a good defense up front. Run They're fine. 1811 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 17: And they ended with eight sacks today. Now they only 1812 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 17: had six quarterback hits, which is crazy. 1813 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:10,439 Speaker 5: So compare that. 1814 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,799 Speaker 1: Let's say to the Chiefs game, sacks are a quarterback 1815 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 1: stat in a little bit. You know, Mahomes guy hit 1816 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 1: twelve times trying to make plays happen. Daniel's only guy 1817 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:21,960 Speaker 1: hit six times and ends up taking eight sacks. 1818 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 5: A couple of those. The reasons the difference is he 1819 01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 5: goes out of bounds, right. 1820 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,560 Speaker 17: Half of them were on the quarterback and half of 1821 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 17: them were on I'm messy offensive line issue. 1822 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 5: Okay, So let's talk about the controversy. At the end 1823 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 5: of the game. 1824 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 1: And I'm watching this game the ending sequence in the newsroom. 1825 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Generally I'm at the desk patra, but at the end 1826 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 1: of the game, I walk over to the Jeremy Bergman 1827 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,559 Speaker 1: David Ealy, you know, section of the newsroom to watch 1828 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 1: the end, so we're all like a line. You don't 1829 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 1: hear someone spoiling the player or anything. And I'm watching 1830 01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,720 Speaker 1: the end of this game, and both Bergman and I 1831 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 1: are like, did the clock stop there for a second? 1832 01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Because you're watching the watching them race up to it. 1833 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,200 Speaker 1: They got a first down the Saints did with on 1834 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 1: a play with just a handful of seconds to go. 1835 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,479 Speaker 1: They snapped it with seventeen seconds left. It was fourth 1836 01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 1: and three. They throw the ball to Foster Morrow down 1837 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 1: to the one yard line, and it seemed for a 1838 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 1: second that like the clock stop, and I thought it 1839 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,720 Speaker 1: did absolutely do Yeah, I thought it was only for 1840 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,400 Speaker 1: a second. After the game, they they were asked about it, 1841 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,120 Speaker 1: they had to have a pool report. Hockey Lely said 1842 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,839 Speaker 1: the covering official mistakenly stopped the clock. In that situation, 1843 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,559 Speaker 1: the clock should not have been stopped. We have Dan 1844 01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Quinn also asked about it after the game. 1845 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,000 Speaker 5: Did you get stop? 1846 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 10: I don't, And I am absolutely taking the high road 1847 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,160 Speaker 10: right now, Dave about that. I saw a quick video 1848 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 10: of that, and so I will wait from the response 1849 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 10: from New York. But those three seconds are critical man, 1850 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 10: let's just say that, yeah, we're on to Philadelphia. 1851 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't say I'm gonna take the high 1852 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,240 Speaker 1: road and then just then you got to go out 1853 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 1: about it. 1854 01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:08,439 Speaker 5: It's fine. I don't know if the game would have ended. 1855 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 5: It was giffy. It was close. 1856 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 1: So Patrick Claybonn, who who's left the studio, did do 1857 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:20,720 Speaker 1: an unofficial stopwatch of it. He believes there probably would 1858 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:24,439 Speaker 1: have been one second, last second that that it wouldn't 1859 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,400 Speaker 1: have been the difference. So it is one of those 1860 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 1: bald don't lie situations, perhaps, or at least for us. 1861 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm just happy that that's not the story of the 1862 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,240 Speaker 1: game because the Commanders are in the middle of a 1863 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,439 Speaker 1: playoff race here and if that had cost. 1864 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 5: Them a win, it would have been brutal. Absolutely. 1865 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, there's something about this Commanders team. 1866 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 1: They don't have many quality wins really any No, this. 1867 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,640 Speaker 17: What this one was important because I think they go 1868 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 17: to Philly next week and they need there's a couple 1869 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,840 Speaker 17: teams snipping at their heels. They absolutely, one hundred percent 1870 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:55,680 Speaker 17: needed to come out with us a win. If that 1871 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,760 Speaker 17: two point conversion had hit, I think they spiral out. 1872 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,479 Speaker 17: I don't think they make the playof at all. 1873 01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 5: That's brutal. 1874 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 1: They do have the Falcons after the Eagles, so they 1875 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,760 Speaker 1: have two home games Eagles then Falcons, than at Cowboys. 1876 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,519 Speaker 1: And yeah, if they can't pull off the upset against 1877 01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,120 Speaker 1: the Eagles, they're officially eliminated, of course from the division. 1878 01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 1: But then that Falcons game looms really large, and then 1879 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 1: those NFC West teams can think, maybe we could sneak 1880 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,360 Speaker 1: a second team into the playoffs. But a big one 1881 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,760 Speaker 1: win that they got it done. Even if there's some 1882 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,720 Speaker 1: concern here with the offensive line and the running game 1883 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 1: and even the defense giving up a drive late to 1884 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,160 Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler, they come away with it. 1885 01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:37,680 Speaker 5: Let's go to. 1886 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Carolina now, Patra Cooper Rush, he's part of the new 1887 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 1: Triplets in Dallas. 1888 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:48,840 Speaker 4: First and ten at the Carolina seventeen turpin in motion 1889 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 4: from right to left, Schnapter Rush looking left, looking looking 1890 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 4: standing now rolling outside the right scramble. Drill throws it 1891 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,799 Speaker 4: in the end on the ball is caught by Jalen 1892 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 4: Rocks for a touchdown. 1893 01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:03,680 Speaker 5: Oh about that. 1894 01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,920 Speaker 1: Break up the Cowboys offense, Yeah, that's Brad Sham on 1895 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:14,200 Speaker 1: k RLD. Cowboys get it done as road underdogs thirty 1896 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 1: to fourteen. Rush throws for three touchdowns two hundred and 1897 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 1: fourteen yards. Rico Daddle goes for one forty nine. He's 1898 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,040 Speaker 1: at he's at like three hundred and eighty yards. He's 1899 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,160 Speaker 1: winen fantasy leagues over the last three weeks. And Ceedee 1900 01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 1: Lamb goes nine for one to sixteen despite playing with 1901 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: his backup quarterbacks, they cruise. I can't believe the Cowboys. 1902 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,640 Speaker 1: I know they were playing the Panthers, but they went 1903 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:37,799 Speaker 1: over four hundred yards. 1904 01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, they did. 1905 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,600 Speaker 17: I thought it Rico'donnnell since he's since Mike McCarthy's just 1906 01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 17: given him the ball and let him be the lead 1907 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,360 Speaker 17: back as opposed to all this messing with Zeke and 1908 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 17: Cook and all that noise. They've they've really become an 1909 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,559 Speaker 17: offense that at least they can move the chains. And rico' 1910 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 17: dondal he doesn't have many explosive runs a long as 1911 01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,959 Speaker 17: like twelve, but he can keep you in down in distances. 1912 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 17: And then Cooper Rush he had a really bad fumble 1913 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,800 Speaker 17: and the half and that was like the only half 1914 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 17: part of the game where you thought the Panthers might 1915 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,759 Speaker 17: have a chance. They bombed an eighty three yard touchdown. 1916 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,880 Speaker 17: But after that, the Cowboys just took care of business. 1917 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,120 Speaker 17: It was lamb and Dawdle Lamban Dawdle, Lambon Daddle basically 1918 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,360 Speaker 17: all down the field and Cooper Rush didn't throw any 1919 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,640 Speaker 17: picks and he managed the game like he does. And 1920 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:28,160 Speaker 17: I thought the defense finally played like their front can play. 1921 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,840 Speaker 17: Parsons and o'diggy Zoo dominated. They had six sacks all 1922 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,400 Speaker 17: in the second half, not the two of them, but 1923 01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,720 Speaker 17: the Cowboys. I mean, they were going against a not 1924 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:43,559 Speaker 17: good Carolina offensive line, but they controlled the ballgame up front, 1925 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,080 Speaker 17: and they messed with Bryce Young. 1926 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1927 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:50,680 Speaker 1: How concerning a performance was this for Bryce Young? He 1928 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:55,200 Speaker 1: lost two fumbles, had two interceptions, so four turnovers overall. 1929 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,800 Speaker 1: I saw some impressive plays by him, but they've been 1930 01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 1: stacking it positive. I think losing by sixteen to this 1931 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:07,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys team is disappointing and it is a reminder the 1932 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,719 Speaker 1: final story of this Bryce aissance will be written after 1933 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,519 Speaker 1: week eighteen, and so the next three weeks are going 1934 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 1: to be important for him. 1935 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 5: You don't want to stack performances like this. 1936 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 9: Right right? 1937 01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,680 Speaker 17: I thought in my assessment was it obviously was a 1938 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 17: downslope in the roller coaster that's been his thing after 1939 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,200 Speaker 17: you know, three weeks of going up the track. So 1940 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,800 Speaker 17: I think you kind of expect that this team is 1941 01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 17: still lacking talent. They still have questions on the old line. 1942 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 17: They didn't get anything from the running game today, which 1943 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,280 Speaker 17: has been their bread and butter and helped open up 1944 01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,760 Speaker 17: the play action passing. And you know, still they still 1945 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,760 Speaker 17: have some deficits that pass catcher and Bryce made his 1946 01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 17: first interception. I mean Greg Olsen did a perfect job 1947 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,439 Speaker 17: explaining why he went to the wrong target. He tried 1948 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 17: to force it to feel in and he had a 1949 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,639 Speaker 17: wide open tight end on the outside and he should 1950 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:57,479 Speaker 17: have just hit that slant. But he had some poor 1951 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 17: decisions that were reminiscent of release season Bryce. But he splashes. 1952 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 17: He's splashed in some big plays and some key plays 1953 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:08,720 Speaker 17: that make you think that he can still do it, don't. 1954 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,120 Speaker 17: I wasn't completely dejected as as we thought early in 1955 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 17: a season like Week one and two when he was 1956 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,200 Speaker 17: really bad. It was an up and down game, and 1957 01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,200 Speaker 17: I think we should expect those from a second year 1958 01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,880 Speaker 17: quarterback with so few starts. Every once in a while. 1959 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, he hit that eighty three yard or to Cocer 1960 01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. So good to get the other rookie 1961 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:33,200 Speaker 1: going there, Jalen Cocher. But a disappointing game. It it's 1962 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,439 Speaker 1: crazy to me that the Cowboys are six and eight. 1963 01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,280 Speaker 1: They just don't feel like they have the same record 1964 01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,920 Speaker 1: as let's say, the Bengals or the Dolphins or the Colts. 1965 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,120 Speaker 1: But neither of these teams are eliminated. Somehow, no teams 1966 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,360 Speaker 1: that played on Sunday were eliminated. The Panthers are actually 1967 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,559 Speaker 1: still technically alive. I don't know how that works. Yeah, 1968 01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,400 Speaker 1: how does that work in the NFC? 1969 01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,519 Speaker 17: So everybody ties and they keep winning some hig I don't. 1970 01:31:58,360 --> 01:31:59,400 Speaker 9: Know, something like that. 1971 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:04,439 Speaker 1: And the Cowboys are still alive technically for the wild card. 1972 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,720 Speaker 1: And you mentioned some bad decisions out of Bryce young man. 1973 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,600 Speaker 1: We made some bad decisions on Wednesday. 1974 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:15,760 Speaker 5: Play the music, Eric. It was quite a run this. 1975 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,800 Speaker 1: Podcast, Kevin was on in terms of our survivor picks. 1976 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,280 Speaker 1: In some controversy early in the season, once we all 1977 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:27,719 Speaker 1: joined forces. We had been going for twelve straight weeks 1978 01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:32,280 Speaker 1: here thirteen straight weeks, and we got a little over 1979 01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 1: our skis going Panthers. We hadn't picked the Panthers to 1980 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,599 Speaker 1: win even a single game between Patrick buy all season, 1981 01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,599 Speaker 1: and we picked them to win. To apologies to everyone 1982 01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 1: who was following along and especially to Steve Wis. She 1983 01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:50,680 Speaker 1: wasn't there to stop us from doing this. I apologize 1984 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,599 Speaker 1: forgetting on board. Yes, the Cowboys season is still alive. Patra, 1985 01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 1: fun to have you back on the show. The Beard 1986 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,439 Speaker 1: to go Tea. It's looking great, the voice sounding great. 1987 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,360 Speaker 1: Have a great holiday. If we don't talk to you before. 1988 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:06,080 Speaker 9: Appreciate it. Yep. 1989 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,200 Speaker 17: Have a merry Christmas to everyone, and happy Honika. 1990 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,519 Speaker 1: Look at that Kevin Patrack come in at you back 1991 01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 1: on NFL Daily. Let's go to Sunday Night Football. 1992 01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:15,679 Speaker 5: In the shotgun is love. 1993 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:20,000 Speaker 12: Chris Brooks to his left, third down and five snapped 1994 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:21,280 Speaker 12: to love, has time. 1995 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:28,679 Speaker 13: Ms on for dub dubbing grab touchdown? What a play, 1996 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:34,439 Speaker 13: what a flo What a catch Romeo dubbs. 1997 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:40,040 Speaker 1: Wayne Laravie on WR and W Yes that great grab 1998 01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 1: by Romeo dops. 1999 01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,880 Speaker 5: It seems like his his only grabs are great. 2000 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,679 Speaker 1: What a pair of hands on that guy go three 2001 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,479 Speaker 1: for forty but gets two touchdowns on the game thirty 2002 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 1: to thirteen. 2003 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 5: The Packers win. 2004 01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:57,760 Speaker 1: It really completes a theme of the day shook a 2005 01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,680 Speaker 1: lot of important games, a lot of great performances, not 2006 01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,519 Speaker 1: a lot of close games, and a lot of key injuries. 2007 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,600 Speaker 1: We will get to Gino Smith leaving this one and 2008 01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,320 Speaker 1: what that's gonna mean for the NFC West race, but 2009 01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:14,120 Speaker 1: let's give the Packers their flowers. Their offense came out 2010 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,920 Speaker 1: like gangbusters in the first half and ultimately did enough 2011 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,599 Speaker 1: defensively so that they didn't have to sweat it late. 2012 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:24,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, a couple of long scoring drives earlyer. This is 2013 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,439 Speaker 6: a game that had a lot of like pretty long 2014 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,519 Speaker 6: possessions on both sides. Like you look at the first 2015 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,320 Speaker 6: four possessions for the Packers in the first half, they 2016 01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 6: go touchdown, touchdown, field goal, field goal, and every possession 2017 01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,200 Speaker 6: was except for the last one, more than three and 2018 01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 6: a half minutes. And then the Seahawks were kind of 2019 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 6: similar too, only difference was the score. And then, you know, 2020 01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,080 Speaker 6: just as things started to get interesting in the second half, 2021 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:45,720 Speaker 6: that's when Gino exits with what has been reported to 2022 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:46,719 Speaker 6: be a knee injury. 2023 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:47,840 Speaker 7: He was questionable to return. 2024 01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,479 Speaker 6: You could tell by the images on the sideline that 2025 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,320 Speaker 6: he was not going to come back, and that kind 2026 01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 6: of sucked the juice out of it for the Seahawks 2027 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:54,960 Speaker 6: like it. From then on, you could pretty much tell 2028 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,680 Speaker 6: the Packers were the better team tonight, probably the better 2029 01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 6: team overall, and they were gonna finish off a victory 2030 01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:03,120 Speaker 6: that they had very much earned while you know, still taling, 2031 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,400 Speaker 6: you know, under four hundred yards, but a solid offensive 2032 01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:08,360 Speaker 6: night with booed by a strong start and a strong finish. 2033 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, ultimately, I'm not going to ding them too much 2034 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:15,120 Speaker 1: for playing with their food in the second half, especially 2035 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,880 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. They they had a little four drive 2036 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,360 Speaker 1: run there in the fourth quarter where it was two 2037 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,720 Speaker 1: three and outs, a fumble and then a turnover on 2038 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,759 Speaker 1: downs on a really short drive for the Packers because 2039 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,599 Speaker 1: they started so well, like they came out with intent 2040 01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,439 Speaker 1: that first drive that was all Josh Jacob's huge holes. 2041 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,040 Speaker 1: This Seattle run defense had been better in recent weeks. 2042 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,040 Speaker 1: The Packers, who are known for their offensive line and 2043 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,360 Speaker 1: their running game, their best was better than what had 2044 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,479 Speaker 1: been Seattle's best over the last few weeks on their defense. 2045 01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,280 Speaker 1: And the second drive, you know, that throw that Jordan 2046 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Love had to Christian Watson down the sidelines was fantastic. 2047 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,240 Speaker 1: Did they get a couple touchdown drives, a couple of 2048 01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,240 Speaker 1: field goal drives. They score on all four possessions, and 2049 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, going into halftime, mat Gino must 2050 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:08,600 Speaker 1: be playing terribly and not really. The game was fourteen 2051 01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,840 Speaker 1: to three or fourteen to zero rather, and they'd only 2052 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,240 Speaker 1: run four plays on offense Seattle. And then he makes 2053 01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,360 Speaker 1: a number of nice throws. He's under a lot of 2054 01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:19,680 Speaker 1: quick pressure, and he makes the big mistake of the 2055 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:23,360 Speaker 1: night after a long drive, that interception where the two 2056 01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,599 Speaker 1: routes were two condensed in the red zone, he gets 2057 01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,200 Speaker 1: picked off. That's that's the only third possession that they 2058 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,000 Speaker 1: have and they end up going to halftime. It felt 2059 01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,719 Speaker 1: like the game was over. Then add injury to insult. 2060 01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,400 Speaker 1: He gets hurt on a play where he gets hit low. 2061 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,280 Speaker 1: They don't throw the flag because of a rule that 2062 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know that you had to have your feet 2063 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 1: on the ground for it to count as a penalty. 2064 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:50,479 Speaker 1: And that injury could end the Seahawks season if Gino 2065 01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,599 Speaker 1: can't get back on the field, because we saw tonight 2066 01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:59,320 Speaker 1: Sam Howell is unplayable. He had seventeen dropbacks. They had 2067 01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 1: under one yard per play. On those dropbacks, he had 2068 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 1: twenty four yards passing and interception, took three sacks and 2069 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,519 Speaker 1: it was just over once he entered the game. With 2070 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,720 Speaker 1: all the extra possessions they got because their defense played 2071 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,720 Speaker 1: better in the second half, maybe they could have come 2072 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,200 Speaker 1: back in this game if Gino was out there, but 2073 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,960 Speaker 1: they were done otherwise. And I don't want to take 2074 01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,920 Speaker 1: anything away from the Packers because their defense got after 2075 01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,880 Speaker 1: Gino pretty well when he was out there. The quick 2076 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,880 Speaker 1: pressure rate they noted was over twenty percent when Gino 2077 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,200 Speaker 1: was in the game, which is extremely high for pressure 2078 01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,800 Speaker 1: under two and a half second. So the Packers with 2079 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,680 Speaker 1: Eddrian Cooper with Kenny Clark, like their defense has had 2080 01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,719 Speaker 1: better moments lately. As long as they're not playing the Lions, 2081 01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:38,519 Speaker 1: they look pretty good. 2082 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, And first off, Edge Cooper, that was one of 2083 01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,320 Speaker 6: my favorite guys at the Combine made the All Combine team, 2084 01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:44,720 Speaker 6: and I'm glad to see him succeeding in the back 2085 01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:46,439 Speaker 6: half of the season. He is a stud, He's a 2086 01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,360 Speaker 6: missile as a linebacker, and he saw a lot of 2087 01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,599 Speaker 6: it tonight. And the ball skills, you know, picking off 2088 01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:53,599 Speaker 6: how in this game to essentially salted away. But yeah, 2089 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,280 Speaker 6: as soon as you saw saw Sam Howel the field 2090 01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,280 Speaker 6: what you saw was a guy who clearly hadn't played 2091 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:02,040 Speaker 6: since last season, and the rust was there, the lack 2092 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,880 Speaker 6: of internal clock was there. Like he was just slow 2093 01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 6: to decide, hesitant to throw, which is not who he 2094 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,720 Speaker 6: was in Washington. He let it rip plenty when he 2095 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,240 Speaker 6: was in Washington. Was afraid to throw essentially back there. 2096 01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:13,640 Speaker 7: And that allowed the Packers defense to pin their ears back. 2097 01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:15,920 Speaker 6: Kingsley and bar I got in there, Cooper got in 2098 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:17,280 Speaker 6: there like no matter who it was, a number of 2099 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,080 Speaker 6: different guys got after him, and like I said, it 2100 01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,760 Speaker 6: took the life out of the Seahawks. They had no 2101 01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,439 Speaker 6: shot coming back because this game was very much, you know, 2102 01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 6: it was for the taking because the Packers offense hit 2103 01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,360 Speaker 6: a lot. Like Jacobs gets to halftime, for example, they 2104 01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,080 Speaker 6: had that strong first half. He gets to halftime with 2105 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,120 Speaker 6: fourteen for seventy three and a touchdown. His next twelve 2106 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,320 Speaker 6: carries he gets twenty one yards total. And that's not 2107 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,599 Speaker 6: a knock on him, it's just kind of the description 2108 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:40,360 Speaker 6: of the game script and the flow of the game 2109 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,559 Speaker 6: and what happened. And yet the Packers still pull away 2110 01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:44,519 Speaker 6: because they are a team filled with pros coached by 2111 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,720 Speaker 6: a pro who was highlighted in the second half, and 2112 01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:48,800 Speaker 6: it's a nice win for them on the road and 2113 01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:51,720 Speaker 6: we'll see where it takes them here, Whereas Seahawks fan's 2114 01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,719 Speaker 6: gonna be keeping their fingers crossed because if they get bad. 2115 01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,679 Speaker 7: News on Gino, this season's gonna go up and smoke 2116 01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 7: real quick. 2117 01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:56,719 Speaker 17: Yeah. 2118 01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,639 Speaker 5: They are now eight and six. 2119 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,599 Speaker 1: The Rams are in first place in the division, although 2120 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 1: it's tied technically, but the Rams have the tiebreaker because 2121 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,439 Speaker 1: they beat Seattle head to head. Those two teams face 2122 01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,320 Speaker 1: each other in week eighteen. Now I've been assuming that 2123 01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,880 Speaker 1: game's gonna be for the division title. You lose Geno here, 2124 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,759 Speaker 1: you're not that competitive against the Packers. 2125 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 5: If you're a Seahawks fan, you have to be worried. 2126 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,400 Speaker 1: Will they be down two games going into that Will 2127 01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:27,400 Speaker 1: they have a chance to compete in the division. You 2128 01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 1: have Minnesota coming in next week, and then you're at 2129 01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:35,760 Speaker 1: Chicago on Thursday Night football the day after Christmas. I 2130 01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,519 Speaker 1: can't believe they're doing Thursday Night football the day after 2131 01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:42,519 Speaker 1: having two Christmas games. That sort of I miss that 2132 01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:44,640 Speaker 1: somewhere along the way. And so that Bears game might 2133 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,080 Speaker 1: be a must win for Seattle, but worrisome because they 2134 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:53,160 Speaker 1: also lost their center Oloatami, who had helped out their 2135 01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,439 Speaker 1: offensive line, and the offensive line did not play as 2136 01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,800 Speaker 1: well today, Like I said, giving up a lot of 2137 01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:02,360 Speaker 1: quick pressures. Given a lot of love to your boy Cooper, 2138 01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,720 Speaker 1: who their defense is just different when he's out there. 2139 01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 1: He has not been out there for them. He is 2140 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,800 Speaker 1: their best linebacker and he is a rookie. I really 2141 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,240 Speaker 1: have noticed that Kenny Clark has played better lately. Their 2142 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,559 Speaker 1: four man rush is getting there, and the Packers occupy 2143 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:18,960 Speaker 1: this really strange space where they're awesome. They're ten and 2144 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:23,200 Speaker 1: four right and they're almost playing for nothing the rest 2145 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,600 Speaker 1: of the way, like they can't win their division. I 2146 01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,640 Speaker 1: mean they could, but they're almost certainly not going to 2147 01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:32,280 Speaker 1: down two games and they're probably just stuck in that 2148 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:36,719 Speaker 1: sixth spot. But the NBC telecast showed a great graphic 2149 01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,320 Speaker 1: that their opponent's winning percentage in terms of their losses 2150 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,280 Speaker 1: is the highest in NFL history because they've only lost 2151 01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,679 Speaker 1: the teams that are either eleven and two or twelve 2152 01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:49,439 Speaker 1: and two. I mean, it's incredible. So they're just kind 2153 01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:51,759 Speaker 1: of gearing up for the playoffs. They know they're almost 2154 01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,479 Speaker 1: certainly going to be on the road for three games, 2155 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,559 Speaker 1: and Seattle's loss just opens the door just a little bit. 2156 01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,599 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are there at seven and seven and think, okay, 2157 01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,200 Speaker 1: maybe we do have more of a path. According to 2158 01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:06,000 Speaker 1: next Gen stats, Cardinals are up to thirteen percent to 2159 01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:09,080 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. The Packers, by the way, if you're curious, 2160 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,640 Speaker 1: are at ninety nine over ninety nine percent, but not 2161 01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 1: technically in this game actually clinched the playoffs for the 2162 01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, So that was the only clinching in the 2163 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 1: NFC today other than the Chicago Bears were officially eliminated. 2164 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 5: But we're not eliminated. Shook, We've got no, We've got 2165 01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 5: a long way to go. 2166 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:30,920 Speaker 1: We got a Monday night double header to talk about 2167 01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:31,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. 2168 01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:34,360 Speaker 6: Excited about that, just yeah, I mean, just when I 2169 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:35,720 Speaker 6: thought that there were no more of those left in 2170 01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 6: the calendar, here that come. So we're ready for geared up, 2171 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,280 Speaker 6: ready to go. Two games one night, Me and Greg 2172 01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:41,000 Speaker 6: doing it again. 2173 01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and two teams that are in the playoff race, 2174 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,400 Speaker 1: fighting for seeding in terms of the Vikings and fighting 2175 01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,439 Speaker 1: just to stay alive in terms of the Falcons. 2176 01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:52,720 Speaker 5: So we will have you covered there on Monday night. 2177 01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:56,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, like I said, weird game, like we'd day important, right, 2178 01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, weird. Almost no close games. Texans was kind 2179 01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:04,479 Speaker 1: of close. The Washington game was close Jets, and that's it. 2180 01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:10,519 Speaker 1: The rest like we're getting separation. Look when the late 2181 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:12,560 Speaker 1: season games, when they're running out of them, you know 2182 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 1: football is back. 2183 01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:16,479 Speaker 5: They didn't have it, didn't have it.