WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Linda Perry 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.600 Of Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:09.880 classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.200 Hey It's unpaid bill check out singer songwriter Linda Perry. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.480 She talks about her musical beginnings with four non blonds 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.479 and how she creates chart topping hits for stars like 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:21.400 A Dell and Pink. Originally released November twenty eighth, twenty. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:34.960 Eighteen, It is Supremo so So Supremo roll Call, Suprema 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:41.560 so Some Supremo roll call, Suprema Sun Son Supremo roll call, 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.200 Subprema Sun Sun Supremo. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.720 Roll call, What's going on? 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:47.839 Yeah? 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:50.760 Yeah, what's going on? 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:59.400 Yeah, Supremo Sun So Supremo roll call ever Supremo so 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.320 So Supremo roll call. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.560 Her name is Spante Yeah, and I must respond. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.039 Yeah, and let y'all know. Yeah, I was the fifth 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:09.000 non blonde. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:17.120 Son Supremo role called Suprema Sun Supremo role. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:21.160 Called my sub Supreme. Yeah, we're reaching new heights. Yeah, 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.479 with four non blonde Yeah, and four non whites. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:34.280 Supreme Suprema Son, Suprema roll quls. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:35.000 Yeah. 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:39.120 I was giving you more. Yeah, she was about to start. Yeah, 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:40.240 what you waiting for? 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:48.320 Suppreva Sun Sign Supremo, role called Suprema Son Sign Supremo 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.000 roll called. Yeah. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.200 Hey, I say, yeah, yeah, what's going. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:04.760 On Suprema so Supremo roll. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:09.000 My name is Linda. Yeah, I just talked over you. Yeah, 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.880 and I'm here, Yeah, and I am God Clue. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:25.120 Supremo Supremo Supremo roll Supprema son Sun Supremo roll call 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.680 Suprema Supremo roll. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.519 Can I just say it once? No? 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:39.919 No, no, do over? We haven't sound like, well I 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:41.079 already beat you to it. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:42.480 Yeah, I told you not to do that. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.200 I said yesterday, you can't. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.480 Can't. You can't establish rules to roll call. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:49.520 We do it all. 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.320 Yeah, we do it all like you're you. You should 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.240 know already. We've been at this for two years. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:55.720 And then when I told you I asked you not 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.440 to do it, he was like, oh, that's easy anyway. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.280 No, not at all. I'm just saying that you have 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.040 the hardest because you're in your last second to the 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:07.160 guest of the show, so you have to figure out Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:07.920 I always write like. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.480 Three, Yeah, let's us learn. Sorry. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.839 Yeah, Hey, it's cool. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.560 I think I had the toughest position. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.280 You guys heard, Yeah, I like, I walked, I talked 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.799 over you, I made my amends to it, and you're. 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:28.000 A what's the difference? I want again? So now you're 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:33.080 feeling yourself after a few weeks of being off anyway, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.920 what's up? Welcome to another episode of Quest of Supreme 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.200 only on Pandora. We got a team Supreme with us. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:43.119 Hello guys, Hello, Hello? What we are live at? Wait 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.400 now I forgot the the pun behind the here word. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.840 We are here are h A R h A R 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.680 we are we are here at? We are here h 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:58.520 g A R studios, Uh, the the the lovely digs, 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.120 the home digs. A studio with windows. Yes, that's a 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.800 novel idea with good scenery. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.040 Well, you know, we're always in the dark, so it's 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.960 nice to see the outside and know what time it is. 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.520 And it actually, honestly, I think makes my players play 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.880 better because they feel like inspired and energetic and no 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.960 one's falling asleep and doing the same thing over and over, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.040 so it's great. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.479 And then they can go jump in the pool if 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:24.880 they need to. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.839 Okay, I want to move in already anyway. Our guest 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:34.880 today is a songwriting producing heavyweight, having pinned hits and 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:40.560 anthems for notables such as Gwen Stefani, Pink, Courtney Love, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:46.000 Alicia keys Lee, Dion Etheridge, Lunch, James Blunt, cheap Trick, Faith, Hilled, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:51.960 Britney Spears, Chalise, Ziggy Marley, everybody, my mother, my fifth 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:55.880 grade teacher, the name I haven't heard in a long time, 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.200 Janice Ian. Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, I believe she 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.680 won a gram Me uh last year for a spoken word. Yeah, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:08.360 she owns that category. So her new life as an author, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.000 Dixie Chicks, Adam Lambert, Molly Cyrus and of course Christina 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:18.440 Aguilera and with an arsenal like that. Of course, obviously 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.320 she has to be in the songwriters uh Hall of Fame. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:28.760 Please welcome singer, songwriter, producer, ranger, Award winner, engineer and 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:34.720 former non blonde, the one and only Linda Perry. Thank you, 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.120 so thank you, without without blowing up your spot too 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.640 much to our two thousand listeners. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.800 Uh, this this is more than they told me. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.320 No, but this, this is a very unique situation that 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:06.240 we're in. Usually like home studios, people in my opinion, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:12.640 like the environment is always important and where I am, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.840 what I'm looking at right now, and I can't describe 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.640 I mean, how we describe this. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.359 I would describe this as a house on HG DV 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.279 Householters that the couple would pick. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.720 The one of property brothers that they show you in 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.360 the beginning, and they say, well you can't afford that. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.839 Exactly, there would be the house. 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.720 To like the humble house, the humbling house. It's like, oh, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.360 I love this, this, open this, how much you think 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.760 this colls? This house is two point four million dollars, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:45.240 Get the fuck out, return. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.480 To the press, or love it or listed when they 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.760 show you that really nice house and they never picked 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:55.000 that one for some reason, they always go, let's let's 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:55.360 love it. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.720 Well, I'm gonna love it. It's a cozy, comfy atmosphere. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.640 And usually artists I know either overdo it, like you know, 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:11.920 some people take pilgrimage trips to Hawaii orwaim Wait why 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:16.480 were we both using Kanye examples? I mean, but you know, 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.320 then there's some artists that that don't want to jinx 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.080 it like you know, a lot of the classic Wu 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:26.120 Tang records were still recorded in the same projects long 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.600 after they had record budgets, until the flooding forced them 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.040 out into wasn't Teddy Riley still producing in the exactly 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.239 that Teddy Riley said that he did most of Michael 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.040 Jackson's Dangerous album still inside his lucky projects, Like that's 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:42.560 his lucky pair of draws. And the thing is always 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.520 like when you upgrade or when you go to comfort, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:49.840 then usually artists are free to go there because it 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.680 might make the must edgy or whatever. But I love 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:59.720 the fact that this is. This is comfortable and somewhat 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:03.680 but it's it's the perfect middle. I mean, it's not 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.760 like the Wu Tang projects from it far from the 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.080 So for you, this is where we are, this is 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.720 where you're This is where the magic happens. Sounding MTV cribs, Yeah, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.120 is this where the magic happens. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.040 I want to go show you my cars now. 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:20.560 Beautiful. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.520 Yeah, yeah, my son has a better car than I do. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:28.960 It's like ga wagon out there. This is the well 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.240 one I I lived in San Francisco when I was 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.560 in four and on Blonde That's where it all happened 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.280 for me, and I lived there for a while and 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:40.400 then I lived in a big warehouse and it didn't 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.880 have any windows. So when I decided to come to 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.599 Los Angeles, which was like I had to argue with 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.360 myself coming down here. I was driving to visit a 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.360 friend and on my way, I was like, you know, oh, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:52.880 you're going to move to l A. And I'm like, no, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.319 I'm not, and yes you are, and I'm like, I'm 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.200 not moving to LA because I never listened to music 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.720 when I drive, and I just like to be in quiet. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.760 Wait. Really, yeah, that's why I don't. 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.679 It's just I like the piece, but time slower in 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.600 my No, I'll drive all the way from San Francisco's 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:11.640 no music, do you like? 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.679 I love to drive, and but I find it really meditating. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.040 You know, where do you check your mixes? Like when 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:19.240 you mix do records? 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:19.319 Like? 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.800 Do you give your your mixes like test runs in 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:22.240 the car? No? 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.719 I listened here and well at my other studio, which 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.079 I want to bring here is I I had a 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:32.559 little AM radio station, so I put it through the airways. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.200 I had one I think it was like six hundred. 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.800 It went around the block sound a ratio. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:39.760 I really liked it. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.439 But so when I found this house, I liked that 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.920 it was had the walls. I was looking for another house, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.800 but I bought the house wasn't my intention to live 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.319 over here. But I asked, where is the where does 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.959 no one want to go live? And everybody said in 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.640 the valley, and I said specifically where like Sherman Oaks 0:09:57.679 --> 0:09:59.760 and seeing I'm like, that's where I'm going to go move. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.120 So I found this house and I lived here for 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:02.480 a while. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.080 But then I bought a studio on called Royal Tone 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.760 and I called it Kung Fu Gardens and that was 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.240 eleven thousand square feet. It was huge, it was beautiful, 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.400 but it was a big version of this. And then 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.240 when my wife and had me and my wife had 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.319 a son, I sold that studio to simplify and I 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.000 turned this house that was actually just sitting here. I 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.640 live in Hancock Park, but this had been sitting here 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.280 and I was renting it out to friends. I'm like, 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.520 you know what, I'm going to turn that house into 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.800 my studio. And so I just kept it pretty. I mean, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.599 this is my esthetic. It sounds great in here. I 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.920 think it's important to feel good where you're making music 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.520 because to me, it's so intimate, especially as a songwriter. 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.400 You know, you want people to feel safe when they're 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.599 coming in. You want them to feel like, you know 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.559 this is an environment that they can be in. Like 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.920 I had Sea long time ago in my other studio 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.400 and she panicked. She never came back because it was 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.560 so big. It was overwhelming for her, and a lot 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.640 of people have that feeling, although it was a really 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:05.480 great environment. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.679 But this one, you know, I did dally here. 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.880 I've done so many great fringing things here already, and 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.720 it just has a great vibe. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.080 So I'm excited to be here and it it's very inspiring. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.640 You know. Some Well, returning to our initial thing about 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.840 silence in the car, you couldn't let that go, right. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.520 It just hit me that it makes sense because most 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:35.280 authors I know, and screenwriters and songwriters now they thrive 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:42.439 on silence, boredom, isolation so that the ideas can come 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.080 to them, because you know, again, we use music as 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.880 it means to pass time and to not go over 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.439 our minds on the road and to not deal with 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:53.800 vertigo or whatever you know, to keep us up. But 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.200 now that makes total sense. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.120 Well also for me, honestly, it's it's not even that 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.839 poet it gets. It's more that I am constantly My 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.880 mind always has music in it, so for some reason, 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.719 when I can shut down like and just like when 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.560 I do dishes, my mind goes blank. When I'm driving, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.040 my mind I just go into these meditative states, you know, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.080 And it's the only time I can actually be free 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.720 in my head for other things. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.240 If there is anything other than music for me. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.240 At night time, it's hard for me to go to 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.199 sleep because it's just constant, you know. I just it's 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.880 constant music, like to a point where I have to 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.240 wake up at you know, four in the morning because 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.520 I had an idea that just popped up, and I, 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.680 you know, get up, I walk to the other side 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.439 of the house, you know, I grab my phone and 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.679 I go to the art room and where because I 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:50.880 have kids, like and. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.079 I'm like, okay, the meme. And then in the morning 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.240 it sounds like nothing. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.680 I get nothing from it, but sometimes it sticks. So anyways, 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.439 so I'm constantly trying to find so for some reason, 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.600 driving I can keep the windows up and sweat all 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:14.360 the way through with no music and be happy, happy 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.600 as in my happy place. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.360 We kill each other riding. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.400 But when I'm here, I love I put on the 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.440 Beach Boys, I love listening to Nina Simon. I mean, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.560 I just put on anything and I come in here 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.320 and I get inspired because this is where it all 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.120 comes to life for me. When I leave this area, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.880 for some reason, I shut everything else down. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.120 I don't know why. It's just the way I've always been. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.839 I would think that's kind of a blessing to be 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:46.040 able to do. Yep. So uh. We always start our 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.800 show with our guests with the question where were you born? 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.960 What city were you born in? I was born in Boston, Boston, Massachusetts. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:14:00.000 Ye, Springfield, Massachusetts. Okay, but I say Boston because it's 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.720 it's like a little bit over there. It's like there's 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.480 Boston and then Springfield's right there. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.679 I'm glad you're not wearing your Yankees hat, Steve. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.800 I was there for one year. I was one years old, 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.319 and then we moved to San Diego. So I was 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:13.720 raised in San Diego. 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:14.360 Okay. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.600 So I'm really a California girl. But for some reason, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:17.960 everybody thinks I'm from New York. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.160 Yeah, guilty, Sorry. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:24.640 Yeah, I think it's my badass attitude. 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.000 It could be. Yeah, you would fit in very well. 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.280 Oh I did it all. You've never lived in New 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:34.120 York No, Okay, I'm guilty too. I thought New York 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.960 and had moved to La Okay. I see, what was 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.960 your home situation like with your parents and siblings. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.400 My mother's Brazilian, my father's from Portugal. And when we 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:51.080 when my family came here, my mom, they got here 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:51.920 like I think. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.920 It was sixty four, sixty three. 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.560 I was born in sixty five in Boston, but I 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.760 have brothers and one sister. Two of my brothers still 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.360 stayed in Brazil. They never came with us. And my 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.800 mom was basically my father told my mother that she 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.960 was not at My mom didn't speak any English. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.080 My mom was gorgeous, beautiful, modeliss you. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.840 Know, Brazilian woman and you know hot, you know, and 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.800 and my father basically coveted her and wanted her to 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:30.320 be a housewife. And he didn't want her speaking Portuguese 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.480 to us because it would be we would be admitting 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.800 we're immigrants. And his he was raised that, you know, 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.520 you can't be an immigrant in this world. They'll treat 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.480 you differently. And so we were raised basically. My father 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:49.080 changed my brother's names, you know, to be more American, 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.520 and I was Linda, so that was you know, it's 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:58.200 pretty seventies America that that's my birth name. But then 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:03.600 what happened was we basically were learning how to grow 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.360 up with my mom and teaching her how to speak English. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.040 So we would come home, we would read our books 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.840 to her. She'd read, you know, try to read with us. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.680 She learned all her English pretty much on TV and 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.040 she just watched National Geographic just Whatever I Love Lucy 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.120 were her main shows. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:26.920 She loved news. My mother. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:31.240 My father was an engineer that worked for very big 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:35.880 companies for the government. My mother ended up being way 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.440 more smarter than my father and it was pretty amazing 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.440 to watch. And so that's the household. I was brought up. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.320 My father he's passed away now, but he was an alcoholic. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:51.480 My mom was a very you know, outspoken woman with vengeance, 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:57.080 you know, and we were on welfare. We drank powdered milk, 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.200 you know, tuna, every single way that you pap we 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:05.600 could think of it, yes, spam, I mean everything. So 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:06.960 it was. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:12.200 You know, it was a great I'm happy for my upbringing, 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:13.640 but it was tough. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.440 And but I wouldn't change one thing because I love 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:21.480 how I grew up to be, and you know, so 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:23.639 that was kind of where I'm at. And then I 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.480 left home at fifteen was on DRU. I did the 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.560 typical punk rocker. I was a total punk rocker, mohawk everything, 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.760 piercing through my face and you know, slitting my wrists, 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.800 not to kill myself, but just to have the scars. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.639 And that's what you did. In San Diego. I dropped 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:42.480 a lot of acid. 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.800 I done a lot of crystal coke, drinking, panhandling, sleeping 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.359 in parks. I did it all on it And not 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:53.360 until I was probably eighteen did I say I think 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:54.800 I'm supposed to be more than this. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.280 And then I got my shit together. 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:04.720 WHOA, Yeah, that's our episode. How did music enter your life? 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.959 Well, it always was there. That That was the funny 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.720 thing about music and my relationship with it. I took 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.520 it for granted, you know, because music I was always 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.000 touching something and making. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:18.639 Music out of it. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:22.280 Like if I saw guitar, I could just play something 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.120 and make a melody out of it. If I saw piano, 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.399 you know, I would make a melody at it. My 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.080 father was a musician, but he never shared it with us, 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.639 so I knew it was there, but it wasn't something 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.200 that we were brought up with. My father listened to 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.160 Frank Sinatra is like his big Willie Nelson, Frank Sinatra, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.600 George Strait, Johnny Cash in the country. 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.800 He loved country, but he loved jazz. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.359 Someboy Day was in Boston. That was somewhere your. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:03.520 My My mother loved Bostonova, all Brazilians. I don't even 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.520 know half this shit that she was playing. My sister 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.240 loved the Beach Boys and Elvis Presley. My brothers loved 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.040 the Beatles and you know, then the Zeppelins and all that. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:17.440 And I left musicals. I just was fascinated with musicals, 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.680 the Jungle Book, sound of Music, Chitty Chitty Bang. 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:21.639 Bang, all of it. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.160 I really was like, oh my god, this is amazing. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.640 So that was my musical upbringing. But then my brother, 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.560 he's over there. He was in a band called Chaos 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.960 and San Diego and he had the long, curly hair 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.240 and chicks loved him. He always had girls around. And 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.280 this was when I was about like fifteen fourteen, and 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.320 he wore really cool leather pants and his band was 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.240 like you know, everybody, and I was like, I want 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.600 to be like him. And they would rehearse in our 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.040 garage and then they would leave, and I'd always be 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.760 listening and he'd come out, he's like, don't touch my guitar. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.680 You know, did the brother thing of course, And of 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.040 course he'd leave and I'd go in there and I 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.280 would try to buy ear figure out what he had 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.560 just been playing. So that's kind of how I learned 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.320 how to play music. I just figured it out by ear. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:16.119 I think that even though I encourage parents and everyone 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:22.160 to uh, you know, introduce their kids to music, now 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.920 that I know, the recurring theme is that the guests 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.399 that are on our show that thrive the most do 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.840 so because it's like those forbidden don't touch it. So 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.800 you got to make music almost Yeah, And now I'm 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.000 gonna discourage all parents out there, discourage your kids from 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:39.280 their stereo. 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:42.520 There's a total truth to that, because even like it's 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:46.520 funny with my son, I was telling quests that I 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:47.840 bought his quest Love. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:49.880 I don't even we call that little set. 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.000 It's like a well, yeah, the breakbeat kit. 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.000 The breakbeat kite for my one year old. 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.240 I appreciate that I wouldn't gladly send it to you. 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.199 No. I loved it, and because I saw it somewhere 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.359 and I'm like, oh shit, I love this thing. And 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.159 I played it and I was like, this is amazing. 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:04.760 So I got it for my one year old son 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:08.280 that you know, he just started walking and I was, 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.639 you know, teaching him and he loved being on it. 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.919 But it was obvious it's just too soon to give 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:17.200 him a drum set. But he I never like, there's 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:21.680 there's drums around, there's pianos around, there's guitars, there's this. 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.600 I never encourage it, and he just goes to it himself. 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.120 He discovered the Beatles all on his own at one 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:29.639 and a half. 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.360 What Yeah, all on his own, swear to god. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:37.800 He listens to Penny Lane, Hay Bulldog, Yellow Summery. He 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:39.119 watches Yellow Summary. 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:39.280 Now. 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.719 I don't know if anybody out there go watch Yellow Submarine. 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.359 It's a trip. I can't even get through Yellow Summer. 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.639 And he's obsessed with it. He knows it, and he 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.200 knows all the songs in Spanish as well, because we 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:55.080 teach him Spanish. And he loves to dress like Paul McCartney. 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.280 He wears a jacket and a tie. I just got 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:00.960 him out of the tie because it's nearly one hundred 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.200 and fifty degrees out there and he wants to be 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:04.720 in his jacket and Tye and I feel like a 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:09.119 bad parent, like he's like sweating. I can't get off 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.359 for him, you know. But anyways, on his own, he 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.560 is doing that. So I don't encourage it. I just 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:17.760 make it available if he's interested. 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.959 He's going to be the third member of Lemon Tweets 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.960 No Lemon tweegs. It's like these two kids, they're teenagers, 0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:33.359 like maybe sixteen and eighteen, but it's like they're straight 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:38.320 nineteen seventies, like basity rollers showing cassidy like that nineteen seventies, 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:42.920 Like kids are people to era. That was a deep cut. 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:47.359