1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Before we jump in, we must warn you this episode 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: contains content such as sexual abuse that may be disturbing 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: to some people. Listener discretion is advised. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Cieru STELESVII benidos are by Lasio de Ya Salavis. 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: The theater comes to life as a voice announces the 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: start of the concert. 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: Ista Islama Yamadama Jamada. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: The grand hall is filled with guests dressed in evening 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: gowns and tuxedos. Their voices echo off the marble floors 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: and the elegant golden staircases. The theatre doubles as a museum, 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: showcasing paintings by Mexico's most renowned muralists Cicaios Orosco and 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: de Rivera, you know Rilla CALO's husband. Some people stroll around, 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: gazing at the enormous floor to selling murals depicting scenes 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: from the Mexican Revolution. However, this is not any ordinary concert, 15 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: but rather a gathering of the rich and powerful, an 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: event with faces you usually only see in the newspapers. 17 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: The viaps on the events invite only lists are a 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: who's who of the Mexican elite, or talking congressmen, senators, governors, secretaries, 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: of state and businessmen, all waiting to snap a photo 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: with the Apostle champagne flutes in hand, and as the 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: ground hall empties and they take their seats, the sound 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: of the city filter scene. You can hear the cries 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: of street vendors selling sunglasses and hot amalie. With a 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: classic barrel organ playing in the distance. Voices outside are 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: chanting in unison. We can finally make out the name 26 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: they are calling the nasonde chant for is Nason qua 27 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: quing Garcia. But he is not a rockstar or a musician. 28 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: He isn't a prominent politician. He is the Apostle of God, 29 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: the leader of a church called Lalus del Mundo. Lalus 30 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: del Mundo or ELLDM for short, means light of the World, 31 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: and the voices belong to thousands of his followers who 32 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: have gathered to celebrate his fiftieth birthday. Unlike the crowd inside, 33 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: most of the people outside are middle class workers, some 34 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: with banners that have images of Nason pensive and smiling. 35 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Some have created huge signs over twenty feet long with 36 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: phrases praising the Apostle and his good works. It was 37 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: evident that night how much Nason was admired and respected 38 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: by so many influential people, and truly and deeply loved 39 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: by a community of hundreds of thousands of faithful followers 40 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: all around the world. He is, after all, the third 41 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: generation leader of a cult that started in Guairajara, Mexico, 42 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: now spanning more than fifty conve with over five million 43 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: reported followers. In the US, there are now temples in 44 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: all fifty states. That night, Nasun basked in the outpouring 45 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: of love and devotion from his faithful community, but all 46 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: of it was about to implode. In just two weeks, 47 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: their beloved leader would be unmasked as something far from holy. 48 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm Roberta Garza. This is a good scandal. Season two, 49 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: La Lous del Mundo, Episode one, The Fall of the Apostle. 50 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: It's the largest cult in the world that no one 51 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: has ever heard of. 52 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: They believe that he was Jesus Christ on earth, God 53 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 5: on Earth. Destructive cult. They're everywhere, and you don't know 54 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 5: you're in a cult. 55 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 6: There's nothing there, there's no records. 56 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: They had had that baby bear on a leash. 57 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 7: All of the lions and tiger were in cages. 58 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 5: And so I remember as a little girl being groomed 59 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 5: to be his concubine. 60 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: It wasn't even so much that he liked sex. 61 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 8: He wanted something that was shocking depraved. The more depraved, the. 62 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: Better Joannes Momento Ma Parlo. 63 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: All I could think about was killing him. There was 64 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: a sixteen year old kid with his aggressor. 65 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: On this season of Sacred Scandal, we dived deep into 66 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: lalus E l Mundo. We will talk about how the 67 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: world recently discovered the horrific crimes and why those crimes 68 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: were kept in the shadow for so long. My name 69 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: is ROBERTA. Garza, a writer, journalist, and academic, and i 70 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: want to share this story because I've had personal first 71 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: time experience with things gone wrong in the Church and 72 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: other high control groups, and I'm still coping. For more 73 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: than five hundred years, only one religion world in Mexico, 74 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: that power belonged to the Catholic Church, and the Catholic 75 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Church alone. Few would dare to encroach on the jurisdiction 76 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: carved out by the force and domination of Vatican Supremacy. 77 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: Until laluzel Mundo, or the Light of the World, this 78 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: new Christian Evangelical church founded in nineteen twenty six did 79 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: not kneel before a father, son, or holy Spirit, but 80 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: instead centered around its three patriarchs. The founder Aaron, his 81 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: son Samuel, and finally his grandson Nason. All were modern 82 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: day apostles and God's chosen ones who ruled their model 83 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: communities with an iron fist. They were tightly aligned with 84 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: the Mexican political elite. L DM became the second biggest 85 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: religious denomination in Mexico and is one of the fastest 86 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: growing in the US, building a cult like following that 87 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: couldn't be touched for over a century. My research focuses 88 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: on religion and high control groups. I've worked extensively on 89 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: Keithinieri and Marcel Maziel, and now I'm diving into the 90 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: dark insights of the light of the world. Over the 91 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: course of twelve episodes, will uncover the dark secrets of 92 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: this megachurch and speak with its abuse survivors. We will 93 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: investigate lledm's corrupt influence, the harassment, extortion, and the murder accusations. 94 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: This is episode one, the Fall of the Apostle. Let's 95 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: go back to May twenty nineteen, when Nason was happily 96 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: celebrating his fiftieth birthday in Mexico City. It was no 97 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,679 Speaker 1: ordinary party. He was gifted with an opera concert composed 98 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: in his honor, played by the Mexican National Marine Band 99 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: and accompanied by a giant church choir. The gathering was 100 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: held at the breath day Palace of Ayas Artes. If 101 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: you've ever googled Mexico City, you've surely come across a 102 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: photo of Beyas Artes. It's an impressive Art nouveau venue 103 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: with iconic sunset colored domes, the beating heart of Mexico's 104 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: cultural world. Think of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in 105 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: New York or the Tate Gallery in London. When you 106 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: step into the Beasartes marble halls, it's impossible do not 107 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: feel a sense of all as you stroll past massive 108 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: bronze lamps and grand staircases. Most impressive of all is 109 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: the colorful tiffany glass work that adorns the theater's curtain. 110 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: To put it simply, Beas Artes is a stunning building 111 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: that's often referred to as the most important cultural center 112 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: in all Mexico. Since Beasartes is a public cultural center 113 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: in a secular state, they do not allow events with 114 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: any religious affiliation. However, an exception was made for the 115 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: apostle Nason Yohamas. 116 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: I never expected so many people to come out. I 117 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: was impressed by how many people there were. I knew 118 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: that it was being broadcasted life across all of Mexico 119 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: and even in countries around the world. They tagged me 120 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: on a ton of photos and videos on Instagram of 121 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: people watching, and they weren't just from the United States. 122 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: The sheer number of people watching was astounding. 123 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: That's anghelmasis a member of La Luzel Mundo and a 124 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: singer of the choir who performed that night alongside the 125 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: National Marine Band at Bess Artists. 126 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: Poor Kee, you look. 127 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: Once I heard that the director Nason Joaquin would be present, 128 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: I needed to be there. I couldn't pass up an 129 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 3: opportunity to hear him, just see him. 130 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: The event was strictly invite only. That's why so many 131 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: of the ordinary led and followers were huddled outside. They 132 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: had no chance of getting in, yet they stood forming 133 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: a crowd, excitedly holding postures of Nasson. Followers came far 134 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: and wide to be in the proximity of their leader, 135 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: just like fans, eagerly awaiting outside a pop Stars hotel 136 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: while the viaps were escorted through by the security detail. 137 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: Soon after the concert took place, people started asking questions 138 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: why was a public cultural venue being used to celebrate 139 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: the birthday of an evangelical leader. The Ministry of Culture 140 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: released an official statement saying that the celebration was never 141 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: meant to be a tribute to Nason Waquing Garcia, that 142 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: it was just a concert, but the image of Nasson's 143 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: face plastered across hundreds of billboards and flyers distributed throughout 144 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: the country to promote the event made it hard to believe. 145 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 8: What can you look as if the poets? 146 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: I can assure you that this event was utterly and 147 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: totally a cultural and musical presentation. It was just one 148 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: big concert with plays and operas and nothing to do 149 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: with religion. This wasn't a religious event. 150 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised to hear that the Ministry of Culture 151 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: and the church followers were aligned when it came to 152 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: the official public relations damage control messaging. Those in Mexico 153 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: know that LUs del Mundo is untouchable. How did Nasanjuaquin 154 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: Garcia I ask so much influence and become so politically connected. 155 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: I've had my own experience with the power of luzel Mundo. 156 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: In the summer of twenty fifteen, I learned that the 157 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: then governor of my home state, Mewolon, had flown the 158 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: hour and a half fled to Walajara to kiss the 159 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: ring of Nasonjuaquin Garcia at one of lldm's main celebrations. 160 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: I was intrigued by the story and decided to write 161 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: about it. Shortly after it came out in the national 162 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: paper Millennium, ELDM filed a discrimination lawsuit against me. They 163 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: took umbrage with the line in my article I had 164 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: described the church as a backwards organization. This ordeal dragged 165 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: on for five long years that frankly I'd rather forget, 166 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: But as a journalist, I was curious. Why would a 167 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: religious group go to such lengths to intimidate a reporter 168 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: who barely mentioned them in a short article that was 169 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: eight years ago. Since then, I have spent a lot 170 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: of time trying to uncover what was really going on 171 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: with Alouzel Mundo, and what I discovered was way beyond 172 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: my worst expectations. That's after the break the millions of 173 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: devout followers in laluzel Mundo are not casual observers. You 174 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: can't just show up at an LDM church and say, hey, 175 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: I want to join. It's a process that takes years, 176 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: even decades, of commitment and dedication, requiring grueling rituals and 177 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: this place of sacrifice. 178 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 8: You had a five am church, a nine am church, 179 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 8: and a six thirty or six o'clock church, which is 180 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 8: the last one. 181 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Elisa Flodes knows it will. She grew up in the 182 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: church during the seventies with her family in the small 183 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: town of Lilink, Texas. A daughter of one of the 184 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: first families to convert to LLDM in Texas. Her entire 185 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: life was devoted to the church and its apostles. She 186 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: was named Elisa as a tribute to the founder's wife. 187 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 8: Normally, our father always went to the five am church, 188 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 8: and if, like on a weekend or in the summer, 189 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 8: we went with our father, he would always reward us 190 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 8: and take us to Dunkin Donuts to shipleytonuts. So we 191 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 8: wanted to go to get donuts. We wanted to go 192 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 8: to church, but we wanted to go in the donuts. 193 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: Elisa's father entered LDM after an introduction from a fellow 194 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: talk driver who was a. 195 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 8: Member, and he invited him several several times, and my 196 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 8: dad for about five years said no. 197 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: He had been suffering from alcoholism and depression. The straw 198 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: that broke his back was one one day he woke 199 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: up to the dog licking him on his messic kitchen floor, 200 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: half dressed, covered in vomit. So he finally accepted his 201 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: friend's invitation. In the church, he found the support and 202 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: community he desperately needed, and he got better. 203 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 8: It helped him get out of what he was going through. 204 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 8: So he felt needed like they needed a person that 205 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 8: drove trucks to do this, and that they needed my mom. 206 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 8: She cook cakes. Oh, we need a person to make cakes. 207 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 8: And so then they felt like, hey, this is a 208 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 8: good place for us to be. 209 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: Four months pregnant with Elisa, her mom got baptized in 210 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: the church. Elisa came out on LEDM newborn. Her destiny 211 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: was sealed when. 212 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 8: You're born in the church. Their parents they promised the 213 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 8: church that they're going to raise you in the doctrine 214 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 8: of the church. 215 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: Joining LEDM church will have saved Elisa's father from alcoholism 216 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: and depression and provided her parents with a feeling of 217 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: importance and belonging their lives were appended for better or worse. 218 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: Ldm's foremost principle is obedience and submission to the apostles wishes, 219 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: whatever they may be about how you dress your soul, salvation, 220 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: or maybe a new car for his coming birthday. Church 221 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: attendance three times a day is mandatory. Followers are expected 222 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: to be chased, dress conservatively, and live lives of extreme simplicity, 223 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: unburdened by material goods, in order to give all non 224 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: essential income to the church, and spend any free time 225 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: fundraising for l DM. Elisa remembers how after school and 226 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: on weekends, the family sold flowers for the Apostle. 227 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 8: We devein the roses, like take all the thorns off, 228 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 8: you make the rose arrangements, and then you go and 229 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 8: from eight o'clock in the morning or ten o'clock to 230 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 8: eight or nine o'clock at night, when the sun goes down, 231 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 8: you're there selling flowers. And we're doing all of this 232 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 8: for free, because we don't get paid for this, and 233 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 8: all of the money goes back to the church. 234 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: In addition to fundraising, Lisa's parents turned over a significant 235 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: portion of their income to the church more than the 236 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: ten percent that was required of them. 237 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 8: And then you have like the big offerings, where like 238 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 8: they want to buy a gift for the apostle and 239 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 8: you have to do an offering with love. 240 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: Offerings of love consisted of standing up in the church 241 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: and announcing to the whole congregation how much you were giving. 242 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Every pastor kept a tally of each member's generosity, and 243 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: woe to the ones who are not giving enough. 244 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 8: Then they look down at you and they tell you, 245 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 8: is that all the faith you have? Don't you know 246 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 8: that this is to make the Apostle of God happy. 247 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 8: He wants this land, and all you can give is 248 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 8: one hundred dollars two hundred dollars. 249 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: For Elisa, this all seemed normal. Her family's involvement in 250 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: the church was all encompassing, as other kids go to 251 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: dance classes, to soccer practice, or dress up as their 252 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: favorite stars and singers. She remembers playing church with her 253 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: brother as an eight year old. 254 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 8: We would even separate our chairs because in our church 255 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 8: the men sit on one side and the women sit on 256 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 8: the other side, So we would set up our little 257 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 8: room like a church. When we went swimming, we would 258 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 8: baptize each other. 259 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: We play church. Being a member of HELLDM means a 260 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: total commitment to the Church and to the Apostles. 261 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 8: You also have to believe in the Apostle of God. 262 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 8: If you don't believe in the Apostle of God, then 263 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 8: you don't go to heaven. 264 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: The belief that the apostle was personally chosen by God 265 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: to restore his true church on earth is the cornerstone 266 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: of l DM's face. For them. The Vatican and everything 267 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: that came after is corrupted by God's appointment. Lldm's leader 268 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: is Christ's thirteenth Apostle. He can speak directly to God 269 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: and is himself revered as almost divine, capable of summoning 270 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: angels and of opening or closing the gates of Hell 271 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: for the rest of the mortals. Only one apostle serves 272 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: at a time, and he is the sole leader of 273 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: the flock, responsible for carrying out God's will and earth. 274 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: But believing in the apostles divine appointment is just the beginning. 275 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 8: Everything that you do in this cult revolves around you 276 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 8: going to Heaven, and if you do these things so 277 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 8: you're basically your whole life. You're walking on eggshells because 278 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 8: you don't want to do anything wrong because you don't 279 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 8: know at any time, like they always teach you, at 280 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 8: any time, God's going to come to call you and 281 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 8: your time is up, and are you going to go 282 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 8: to heaven or hell? 283 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: There are many things you can do wrong inside the LDM, 284 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: and they surely let you know when you do. But 285 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: one of the worst things you can do inside the 286 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: church the one that gives you a guaranteed ticket to 287 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Hell and a good reason to be shown from the 288 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: otherwise loving community. It's talking trash about the Apostle. 289 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 8: They have songs about God filled them with leprosy because 290 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 8: they were talking against the Apostle. The ones that speak 291 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 8: against the Apostle, the devil has got a hold of them. 292 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: In LDM, adult responsibilities come at you very fast. That 293 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: would be at age fourteen when Elisa got to experience 294 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: a real baptism her own. 295 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 8: Once you turn fourteen, you're considered an adult in the church. 296 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 8: Prior to the age of fourteen or prior to you 297 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 8: being baptized, your parents are responsible for you, and if 298 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 8: you die, you'll go to heaven. And if your parents 299 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 8: testimony is good. If they're not, then you go to health. 300 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 8: Once you get baptized, you're responsible for your own salvation. 301 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: Only after baptism does a believer finally join ELLDM as 302 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: a full fledged member. As you get into the water 303 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: and it covers first your mouth, then the nose, then 304 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: your eyes and hair, cleansing your sins but also your innocence, 305 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to know what you're doing, and you 306 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: must carry your own wait. You have become the keeper 307 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: of your own soul, and most importantly, your allegiance to 308 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: the Apostle is now a personal affair. After her baptism, 309 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Elisa could not rely on her parents to be responsible 310 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: for fulfilling her tithes and obligations anymore, and there were 311 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: a lot of those. Because if Ledm's flock is supposed 312 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: to be humble and austere, the Apostle and his closest 313 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: relatives are regarded as royals, quite literally. The youngest science 314 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: are called princes and princesses. They live in a luxury 315 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: that not only is not seen as offensive, makes the 316 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: members proud. Devout members proudly give so the Apostle can 317 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: travel in fancy cars, undressed like a movie star, and 318 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: they hung pictures of him in his silk shirts and 319 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: custom made suits at the most prominent walls in their 320 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: homes or offices, carrying miniature portraits in their cars and 321 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: wallets for good measure. 322 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 5: I do remember having several pictures in my house, in 323 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 5: my aunt's house, which is where I'd grow up, at 324 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 5: my grandparents' house. 325 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: This is Suchil Martin, a former member of LEDM, who 326 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: remembers growing up with these images all around her. 327 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 5: So and anywhere in my family, aunts, uncles, cousins. It 328 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: doesn't matter. Every home that you went to with LDM. 329 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 5: There were pictures of the apostles nearly everywhere in our room, 330 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 5: and that sort of also proved like how much you 331 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 5: believed in the Apostle, like how many pictures you had 332 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: in your home? 333 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: But who was Nasan Juaquin, the man behind the flattering 334 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: pensive poses on those ever present images, the third in 335 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: the line of family members all apostles. The Song came 336 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: into power having been born into it. Since he came 337 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: into this world as the son of God's chosen one, 338 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: his every move was adored, revered and cheered on. The 339 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: little Princelyn could do no wrong. Former ELLEDM pastor Hil 340 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: Silva recalls meeting in a song before he became the 341 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: third Apostle, and. 342 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 6: Na Song was a young guy when I met him. 343 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 6: He was very a young man, but very cocky, very 344 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 6: um entire, with a lot of ententirement. 345 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: At the time, Oile was tasked with building what would 346 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: become elal Edm's flagship temple in Armosa Provincia, a neighborhood 347 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: of around five thousand people in Guallajara. Everyone who lives 348 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: there is a believer. It is considered the headquarters and 349 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: beating heart of La Uzelle Mundo. That's where the Apostles house, 350 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: the Casa Reale sits. While parents were missionaries and they 351 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: were close to the Apostles family. 352 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 6: Nason accomplished his power and charisma through imposition, you know, 353 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 6: using his authority, not through you know, treating well the 354 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 6: people around him, especially enough his subordinates, you know, maybe 355 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 6: with the congregation. Was very smiley and very careful with 356 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 6: his manners and everything. 357 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Will also recalled that when Asan preached to his congregation, 358 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: he would always appear impeccably dressed in a tailor's suit 359 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: with a silk shirt wearing but you will watches and 360 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: exceeding confidence, flashing a big smile. 361 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: Oh the boy, so those that are those us here 362 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: and does. 363 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: Attention to detail two appearances. The commitment to a mirage 364 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: of perfection was important to the apostles. On the surface, 365 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: La louse el mundo sem picture perfect. The body of 366 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: the church boasted a thriving international congregation, an orderly happy flock, 367 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: attention grabbing temples, spiritual transcendence, security, and a sense of 368 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: belonging for its members until it didn't more on that 369 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: after the break June twenty nineteen, the skies over Los 370 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Angeles bussed with the hum of a private jet just 371 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: a little over two weeks after Nassan's fiftieth birthday bash, 372 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: the Grand Concert at Veyas Artes. He was traveling in 373 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: style to California, looking forward to a relaxing vacation. The 374 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: plane touched down at Lax away from the main terminals, 375 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: and came to a stop. Nason walked down the stairs 376 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: of the plane in his five thousand dollars suit, holding 377 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: a leather briefcase, expecting to see his usual car with 378 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: tinted windows and comfy seats, ready to take him to 379 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: one of the three houses he has in Los Angeles. Instead, 380 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: he was met by agents from the FBI, Homeland Security, 381 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: and ICE with a warrant for his arrest. I would 382 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: love to be able to tell you how many agents 383 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: there were, what they said to him, and what Nason 384 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: set back as they hank offed him, but the district 385 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: attorney and the agents involved declined to comment. What we 386 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: do know is that Nason was instructed to open his 387 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: briefcase and lay out his belongings, and his passport, an 388 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: ipadad an iPhone were immediately confiscated. Nason's vacation would have 389 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: to be postponed indefinitely. 390 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 7: Religious leaders are supposed to have the best interests of 391 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 7: their followers and congregations in mind. Officials say that is 392 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 7: not with the leader of the Light of the World 393 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 7: Church was doing. Instead, they say he was abusing his 394 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 7: position of power, taking advantage of people, families, and young 395 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 7: children for his own sexual desires. 396 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: On Monday night, my office arrested Nason Joaking Garcia. 397 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 4: A day of reckoning for the man whose millions of 398 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 4: followers call him the Apostle Jesus on Earth. Nisson Garcia 399 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 4: admitting in court he sexually abused young girls to. 400 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 9: His church. 401 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: Nason's bail was set at a record break in ninety 402 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: million dollars. A Los Angeles court charged him with counts 403 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: including human trafficking, child pornography, and the rape of a minor. 404 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: The church was in a frenzy. They forbade their members 405 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: to watch the news or check the internet. They claimed 406 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: it was all Satan's work, as the devil had tempted 407 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: Christ in the desert, now he was testing the Apostle. 408 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: To no one's surprised, Nason's followers, like Elisa adamantly rejected 409 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: his guilt. 410 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 8: When we were told in church that he was arrested, 411 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 8: they brought down this big screen, this projector screen, and 412 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 8: they put on the video, and the bishops told us 413 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 8: that the Apostle of God had gotten arrested, and that 414 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 8: they would be our form of communication, that we weren't 415 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 8: gonna we were supposed to be looking at anything other 416 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 8: than what they tell us to or that they would 417 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 8: be the ones to tell us the truth about what 418 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 8: was going on. 419 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: That was until she visited her brother Moses, who had 420 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: recently left the church. 421 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 8: My brother, he starts telling me, hey, Elisa, what do 422 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 8: you think about this stuff that's going on with Nassan 423 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 8: and I'm like, oh, it's an immigration thing and he 424 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 8: was like, no, it's not, and I'm like, yes it is, 425 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 8: and he goes, no, this is about sexual assault. This 426 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 8: is about he did stuff with kids. And I was like, no, 427 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 8: it's not, and he's like, yes, Elisa, that's what it is. 428 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 8: Because I never looked it up. 429 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: Elisa could obey her pastors no longer. When she went 430 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: online and saw the victims the positions, her whole world 431 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: came crushing down. 432 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 8: This was my identity, this was my life, My church 433 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 8: was my life, and my life was a lie. My 434 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 8: whole life, my whole being, everything was a lie. 435 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: On this season of Sacred Scandal l uzel Mundo, we'll 436 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: hear from a diverse group of experts, from historians and 437 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: psychologists to lawyers and people close to the apostles. However, 438 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: what matters most is that we'll be hearing firsthand from 439 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: the survivors were still really and healing from their traumatic 440 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: experiences from abuse, assault, and even attempted murder. They are 441 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: the ones who are bravely fighting to expose LEDM for 442 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: what it really is, a manipulative organization that has caused 443 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: unimaginable suffering, and even this, you can't prove that there's 444 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: a God. You can't prove that this person isn't a 445 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: prophet of God. 446 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 5: So imagine being a little girl like myself who's being 447 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: raised and thinking, Hey, this the Apostle of Jesus Christ. 448 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 5: You're going to be his wife. The money circulates, and 449 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 5: it somehow gets into the government and in his society, 450 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 5: but it all comes back somehow. 451 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 9: We stand here today and we are moving forward in 452 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 9: court to speak for literally thousands of victims of Nason 453 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 9: Walking Garcia and his conspirators. 454 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 6: I know that at some point the victims had some 455 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 6: justice done, you know, looking at him, defeated, cowardly, silent, cowardly, 456 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 6: looking at the wall, without the you know, the gods, 457 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 6: to turn his face to his victims. 458 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: What does it feel like to go from being a 459 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: darling of nasona the church to being an enemy of 460 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: the Apostle. That's on the next episode of Sacred Scandal 461 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: La Lustmundo Joannes Momento. 462 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: All I could think about was killing him. I looked 463 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: at a rock and I thought I'll break his face 464 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: and with that stone, but I stopped. There was a 465 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: sixteen year old kid with his aggressor. My father and 466 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: with good reason, being a judge, told me that the 467 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: laws exist but are not applied in the country. They 468 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: will kill you. From there, I created a battle plan, 469 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: a strategy to put him in jail. I was focused. 470 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Moises Padilla was groomed by Nassan's father, and then when 471 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: he tried to speak out, he was haunted by the 472 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: church's henchmen, stabbed dozens of times and left to die 473 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: on the side of the road. Threatened, attacked, and exiled. 474 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: Moises never gave up his quest for justice. How do 475 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: you become a whistle blower after an attempt on your life? 476 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: His story is on the next episode of Sacred Scandal 477 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: Lalus del Mundo. Sacred Scandal Lalus el Mundo is a 478 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: production of Exile Conton Studio in partnership with Aarhartsmichael Tura 479 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: podcast Network, and is hosted by me Roberta Raza, produced 480 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: by Savin Johnson with the help of Stella Emmett, Reynald 481 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: Kutieres and Anna Sable Octavio. Written by myself and Monissa Hendrix. 482 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: Research by Roberta Garza. Fact checking for this episode by 483 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: Marina Penne. Additional reporting by Florenzia Sonsiles Gracia, Engineering by 484 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: Uga Mendoza, Sound designed by Patrick Unis. Original music by 485 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Hart, edited by writer Alsop and Rose Reed. 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