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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where there are

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Speaker 1: At you, BJK Simone, Asia Pino. It's Monday, June sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: and on today's show we'll be chatting with actors James

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Speaker 1: Rode Rodriguez and Tom Everett Scott about the WNBA Fantasy

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Speaker 1: message of support from the City of Angels. It's all

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Speaker 1: coming up right after this Welcome back slices. Hope you

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Speaker 1: had a great weekend. Here's what you need to know today.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the WNBA, where Caitlin Clark is back

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Speaker 1: and the New York Liberty's unbeaten streak is over. It

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Speaker 1: three pointers with seven, and added nine assists and eight rebounds,

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Speaker 1: deep deep deep threes, including back to back to back

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Speaker 1: Guard Sophie Cunningham was also back in the lineup for

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Speaker 2: The only bad news for.

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Speaker 1: Clark's big comeback came just after another highly anticipated return

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Speaker 1: We haven't had a chance to mention it since then,

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Speaker 1: Highlight in the two minute, twenty four second recap video

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Speaker 1: from the WNBA. So we put together some Mercury highlights

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Speaker 2: And frankly, I can't blame them.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, the Sparks signed veteran guard Shape

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Speaker 1: If you aren't familiar with Petty and her WNBA journey,

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Speaker 1: The Golden State Valkyries recorded their third straight win on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: To the Dallas Wings, who are also doing some roster tweaking.

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Speaker 1: They've acquired Lee Rue from the Seattle Storm in a trade.

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Speaker 1: More WNBA and a few more records and achievements to

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Speaker 1: This past Saturday with the twenty twenty five Women's Basketball

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Induction ceremony at the Tennessee Theater in Knoxville.

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Speaker 1: Four great players, Sylvia Fowls, Elena Beard, Cappy Pondexter, and

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Speaker 1: The four players, Fowls, Beard, Pondexter, and Bird combined for

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Speaker 1: The game isn't just surviving, it's thriving. To witness this

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Speaker 1: To the NWSL amid ongoing immigration raids in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: Kaylee Kurtz also made some history in the win, becoming

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Speaker 1: The game is set for Saturday, November twenty second, and

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Speaker 1: To Ncuba Track and Field, the national Championships concluded over

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Speaker 1: Savannah Sutherland ended her collegiate career in style, winning the

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Speaker 1: by none other than the legendary Sydney McLaughlin. Lavroni to

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Speaker 1: The Blaze trailed twelve to one in the fourth inning

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Speaker 1: well timed rain delay see the twenty sixteen World Series. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: the Women's Tennis Association. The WTA announced last week that

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Speaker 1: players can now take time away for fertility related procedures

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Speaker 1: Moving forward, eligible players who missed time for fertility procedures

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Speaker 1: weeks of returning. While most doctors agree that low impact

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Speaker 2: We got to take a quick break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Just a couple of Hollywood stars playing WNBA Fantasy.

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Speaker 2: It's Tom and.

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Speaker 1: James next joining us now. He's an actor, director, and

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Speaker 1: a Texas native, NYU grad, dog foster, animal lover and

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Speaker 1: this isn't actually a podcast, it's an intervention. It's James

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Speaker 3: Hi, James, thank you so much for caring enough to

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Speaker 3: try to help me.

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Speaker 2: Also with us.

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Speaker 1: He's an actor known for movies like That Thing You'd

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Speaker 1: I'm Sorry. He's currently in production playing Elwood's dad in Elle,

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Speaker 1: the Legally Blonde Prequeil series. A Massachusetts native and Syracuse grad,

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Speaker 1: He's a father who's blowing off his kids on Father's

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Speaker 2: It's Tom Evert Scott, Hi, Tom.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Yeah, whatever, those kids, they don't need me anymore.

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Speaker 1: Grown fine, Thank you guys for joining the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to chat.

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Speaker 1: Before I get to why you're here and why it

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Speaker 1: makes sense, I'd like to start with how you know

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Speaker 5: James.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember how you two met.

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Speaker 3: Tom and I met because we were we both found

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Speaker 3: ourselves in the same dynasty league. Am I on the

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Right through Garrett, right.

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Speaker 3: Through Garrett Leerner, a wonderful screenwriter and fantasy football enthusiast,

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Speaker 3: asked me if I wanted to be my first dynasty league,

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Speaker 3: But then I said yes to that, and Tom, sure enough,

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Speaker 5: Like the Hollywood part.

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Speaker 3: Tom and I also realized that we had met many

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Speaker 5: We are pals. We became pals.

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Speaker 1: Is it true, Tom, that you almost weren't hand selected

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Speaker 5: That's pretty much what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess because it wouldn't have made sense

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, come on, like, that's pretty good. That's

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Speaker 1: Most American icon legend everybody. It's like, it's like mister

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Speaker 1: He's like mister Rogers.

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Speaker 2: Basically he is.

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Speaker 5: He played mister Rogers.

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Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, yeah, of course he did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, James, you.

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Speaker 1: can you give us a look at your peak depravity?

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Speaker 1: How many leagues at once in how many different sports

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll start with the easy one that I

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Speaker 2: You become you're a real GM. James, I'm a.

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Speaker 2: The board someone the Bears killed.

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Speaker 2: An opportunity elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: And now you know, every season is its own, you know, adventure.

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time saying no to anything charity related.

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Speaker 3: So that Jack's my my number up for sure. I've

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Speaker 3: got my home league, I've got my Dynasty League. I'm

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Speaker 1: What that is and I've never even heard of it.

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Speaker 1: You truly are a degenerate.

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Speaker 3: Tom and I are in the same guillotine, one of those.

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Speaker 4: You get eighteen teams and then each week the lowest

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Speaker 2: There is a higher suicide league.

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Speaker 1: But it's not it's your teams instead of the professional

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and their entire roster goes under the waiver war.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, say fifteen is probably like right in the

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, yeah, OK go, Well, now that we've established

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Speaker 1: We're in a WNBA auction style fantasy league called the

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Speaker 1: But it's my first season along with my teammate Tie,

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Speaker 1: But currently you guys are one in, which isn't a

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Speaker 1: surprise your professionals, James, When did the D League start?

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Speaker 2: Are they friends or are they just fellow degenerates.

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Speaker 3: We're all degenerates. We started four seasons ago. You are

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Speaker 4: Also the thing that I'm having a hard time figuring

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Speaker 5: It's been hard. I am not very good at it. Sarah,

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Speaker 5: I great name, really want everyone.

436
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Speaker 2: To know the origin of because it's weird if they don't.

437
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: So, just in case you haven't heard me mention it

438
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: on the show in a previous episode, it is because

439
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Skyler Diggan Smith was caught on a hot BLI like

440
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: telling an opposing player that she felt young butter Pussy

441
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: was old because of having kids, and how could I

442
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: not name my team?

443
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 5: Then?

444
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right, Yeah, but Tom you're and strong, thank you? Yes,

445
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: your team wrong and strong.

446
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 2: You're sitting in.

447
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: Second at two in one and you did beat my

448
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: team in week one and James your team three p

449
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 1: defender a very subtle nod to the fact you're going

450
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: for your three p Thanks for rubbing it in currently

451
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: three and zero, Explain to us how you're kicking our

452
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: ass so that we can make adjustments, and.

453
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Speaker 3: Betsy Well, I put the b in subtle, Sarah, I

454
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 3: think you know that. Here's what it comes down. It

455
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: comes down to drafting a great core, and by cores,

456
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 3: I mean like four or five players where you allocate

457
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: your money in such a way that you know, if

458
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: you suffer injuries to other players, it's never going to

459
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 3: affect you that much because you basically have one hundred

460
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 3: and twenty points every time they all play a game.

461
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 3: And then outside of that, you know you're looking for

462
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: some upside. You're looking for someone who you know is

463
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 3: not flashy, not sexy. Perfect example. I've had her for

464
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 3: three years in a row. Now, Minnesota power forward Atlanta Smith.

465
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 3: She might crawl to double digit points, but she's second

466
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: in the league in blocks, She's one of the best

467
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 3: defensive players in the league. And she will get you,

468
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 3: you know, twenty to twenty five points a game very quietly,

469
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 3: but it's dependable. You want players like that. And then

470
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: the last key to it is. You have to have

471
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 3: at least one sort of slush spot on the end

472
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 3: of your bench that you're not attached to, so that

473
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 3: if you need to rotate a player in and out

474
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 3: because the person you're playing has seven more games on

475
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 3: the schedule.

476
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Speaker 2: Than you do, right you the part You.

477
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: Got to have that player that you can, you know,

478
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 3: hit the bricks pretty much.

479
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

480
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: Day, I'm struggling with that because every time I look

481
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: to do that, because I watched you make so many rotations,

482
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I'm just sticking with the people

483
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: I have. But everybody out there to pick up has

484
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: fewer points average than my players, and so I'm worried

485
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: if I do that, I'm just going to get rid

486
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: of someone who's consistently better.

487
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Speaker 2: Tom If you found a player that you were.

488
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: Like excited to see heading into this season, either a

489
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: rookie or someone you thought would be coming in hot,

490
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: or someone that would be good for your roster, and

491
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: immediately you were like, Okay, I don't know what I'm doing,

492
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: and or like someone that you added to your roster

493
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: and then now you're like, whoh, I had no idea

494
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: they were going to be performing this way.

495
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Speaker 4: I mean kind of like last year when I was

496
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 4: watching THES it was my first like understanding of like

497
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: how great these players are and I and I didn't

498
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 4: really know that I was going to be in this

499
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 4: league at that point. So then when we came to

500
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: getting close to our auction draft, I was like, Okay,

501
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: I know some of those players. And then I looked

502
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 4: on YouTube and I found this great YouTube person called

503
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 4: Brooks Bench and she yeah, and she and her friend

504
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: they just were talking up drafting their WNBA fantasy teams

505
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 4: and they were listing their favorite players. And I just said,

506
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 4: if these guys know this much about women's basketball, I'm

507
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 4: just going to take their advice.

508
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: Smart.

509
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: And so without really knowing these players, I had these

510
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 4: tiers and I knew how much I was going to

511
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 4: That's what I do in fantasy football when I draft,

512
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: I just have tiers of guys and it was great.

513
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Speaker 5: It helped me get fords of women.

514
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Speaker 1: If you will you buyers of women for your fantasy

515
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: deep cut women, James, I want you to explain how

516
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: you managed to steal Caitlyn Clark that.

517
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 5: Was such a great trade and benefit.

518
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: From her huge return to play without dropping a single

519
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: dollar on her in the auction draft and with the

520
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: person who traded her to like doing it at such

521
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: a late time that there was really no purpose by

522
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: the time he finally traded her.

523
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so dear Ray over bed on Caitlyn. He dropped

524
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty of his two hundred dollars on her,

525
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: thinking that he was driving up the price. We all

526
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: immediately were like, no, he had Caitlyn Clark and then

527
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 3: no money left to spend, and so he got off

528
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 3: to a really rough start. He wasn't just losing, like

529
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: he was getting destroyed because he only had Caitlyn and

530
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: then she got hurt and it was two weeks minimum,

531
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: and I pounced. I offered him something the day that

532
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: report came out and then been I and I think

533
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: he thought he was that this was strategy. Found an

534
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: article I think from Athlon Sports from.

535
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: Someone can't be trusted?

536
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: Can trusted doctor that had nothing to do with the team.

537
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: No, No, it's like a it's like probably like the

538
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: doctor from thirty Rock.

539
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were like, with this kind of injury,

540
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: we would expect her to be out for a lot

541
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: longer than two weeks, but we don't think that you know,

542
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: her career or is in jeopardy, and so it was

543
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 3: it sort of played right into my hands because I

544
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not believing an article from Athlon, so

545
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: I know Caitlin Clark is probably like frothing at the

546
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: mouth to get back as soon as humanly possible, and

547
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: I actually got I actually got away with not having

548
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 3: to give up Alyssa Thomas, who I originally was going

549
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: to make part of that deal, but then it was like, ah, dude,

550
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 3: I don't know if she's going to be out for

551
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: a month, I'll give I'll give you Jackie and Gabby

552
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, I love me some some

553
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: Gabby Williams and Jackie. He's had some huge games. You

554
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: weigh him out, and you know, a healthy Katelyn Clark,

555
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 3: she'd make that deal every day of the week.

556
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: Well she came back and dropped like sixty parts for you,

557
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: So it seemed like a decent movement.

558
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: And I'm still going to lose, yeah, which is just

559
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 3: so crazy to lead.

560
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 5: Yeah you are? You know you're not? This week? I am.

561
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: He might take his first album.

562
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm taking the first.

563
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: Tom Alisha Gray, Kelsey Plum Sat So those those ladies

564
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: are holding things down for your squad. But Asia Wilson's

565
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: been your m v P as is expected. What is

566
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: the plan if Asia's absence drags on due to concussion?

567
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: Brot a call? Are youre going to trade her to James?

568
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: Like that?

569
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 5: More on? Yeah? Yeah?

570
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: What's the going rate for Asia Wilson?

571
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: Is it Veronica Person and Atlanta Smith?

572
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

573
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: Right?

574
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you just talked her up right?

575
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: Right?

576
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: Good?

577
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 4: Uh, just send me some doctor report and her concussion.

578
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: I mean, do you want sports Keita this time? That

579
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: one's even worse than Avlon.

580
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 4: I'm actually watching the Aces right now without Yeah, they're on,

581
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: She's not there. Should be okay, right.

582
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you'll be fine. You'll be fine. I think

583
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: should be fine.

584
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: Do you have any big bold predictions for the rest

585
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: of the season.

586
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 3: James, Yes, I don't think that the Aces are gonna

587
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: turn it around and be a real factor. I mean,

588
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: they'll be a playoff team, but I don't think the

589
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: Jewel Lloyd for Kelsey Plumb plug and play experiment is

590
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: working out for them.

591
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: Which I'm surprised by. And maybe it's just gonna too

592
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: much of a Jewellloyd homer. But I'm a huge fan

593
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: of hers, and I know Kelsey is a dog and

594
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey can make her own shot and go off. But

595
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: Jewel also was a player that, like I thought, was

596
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: just going to keep getting better. And I don't know

597
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: what the fit issue is or what Maybe it's just time,

598
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: but it's not looking great.

599
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: It's not looking great. They got blown out by an

600
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: expansion team, and I don't think you can overstate that

601
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: that means something is seriously wrong in that locker room

602
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: or or somewhere. And you know, Becky didn't mince words.

603
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: And I feel like they're already at a point in

604
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: the season where you know that they have to they

605
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: have to figure out what's going on. Meanwhile, you know,

606
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: the Liberty and the Links look as good as ever,

607
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: and now that Caitlin's back, look out because fever here

608
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: they come. So I feel like I don't know how

609
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: bold it is, but you know, going into this season,

610
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: the Aces were right there, you know, in the discussion,

611
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: and I don't know that they're actually going to be

612
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: in the discussion.

613
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: No, that's I think I agree with you, And my

614
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: preseason prediction for MVP Wasnafisa Collier, And I feel like

615
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to pick anyone bit asia after a season

616
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: like last year. But you know how tendency in leagues

617
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: is like not to keep giving it to the same

618
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: person even though they deserve it. And I thought fee

619
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: was due and if the aces aren't really in the conversation,

620
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: that's going to help.

621
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Fees costs a.

622
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: Little bit of time. Yeah, the fees fees outrageous as well.

623
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: Right now?

624
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Her efficiency? Uh, Tom, are you interested in trying to

625
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: steal away any of my players? Is there anything you

626
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about right now?

627
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: Or?

628
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 5: Boy?

629
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: Do I wait? So your did you who did you

630
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: bid on? Who did you bid the most money on?

631
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: In the auction?

632
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: I'd have to go back and look a lot of

633
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: the players.

634
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: My teammate and I were like willing to really spend

635
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: on everybody, like we thought overbid on We kind of

636
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: we didn't know what we were doing.

637
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: I think you got the steal.

638
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you got the steal of the draft.

639
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: We under got joll Yeah, we got the steal of

640
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: John Quell for sure, but now she's been out, which

641
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: has been unfortunate for us. And then we got Collie

642
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: a Copper not knowing that she was going to get

643
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: that knee thing.

644
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: So she's finally.

645
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: Back in, but we've had her on the i R

646
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: the whole time. Someone in the league, and I don't

647
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: know anyone but you two. Whoever it was, tried to

648
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: get me to make a trade for Courtney vander Slut

649
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: the day she got hurt. I think, hoping I wouldn't know,

650
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is my job, bro, oh and

651
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: that's and that's.

652
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: My team, the Chicago Sky.

653
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 5: So wow, I.

654
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: Sure hope that. I don't think it was you. Did

655
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: you have Courtney vander Slut?

656
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: I did, but I wouldn't have tried it a hurt player.

657
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: I dropped her as soon as she got hurt.

658
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe someone else picked her up and then tried

659
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: to trade her as if I didn't you Maybe maybe Sky.

660
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: No, no, I think I was offering you some players

661
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: for Khaliah Copper.

662
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 5: Is that who you have?

663
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

664
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think it was maybe you sent

665
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: the trade before she got hurt.

666
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: I wouldn't Yeah, I wouldn't have sent you a trade

667
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: for the player.

668
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: I've been doing this too long. That's that's uh.

669
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: Also, you know you're an actor, so you know, sure

670
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: I believe you what you're saying right now, but look

671
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: at that face.

672
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: Look at that sweetest and honestly.

673
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 2: A liar, he's too sweet.

674
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: Well, I won't hold it against you, and lucky for you,

675
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: I literally just sent back a note that was like,

676
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Get out of here, and then

677
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: deleted it, so I will never know who it was

678
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: and if it was you, wasn't it wasn't.

679
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 5: Me because I didn't get any and I didn't.

680
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 4: Get like that okay response, But no, you know what,

681
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 4: I think that Clea Coopper coming back is good for

682
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: the Suns.

683
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 5: That's my take. I think they're a strong team for sure.

684
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: You mean you mean the Mercury.

685
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 5: I mean the Mercury, Sorry that the Suns.

686
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Are, No, I mean I think it's also I think

687
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: it's also good for the Suns because talking about literally

688
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: anything other than sons is good for that ownership or

689
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: I guess sexual harassment or potentially sleeping with the player,

690
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: or potentially racist hiring practices. Just getting the Mercury to

691
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: be top of the news is exactly what that ownership needs.

692
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, I want to ask you, James.

693
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: You're directing the show high potential, what help you up

694
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: to is there another psych movie in the works? Is

695
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to play and get us

696
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: to get into.

697
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: I just got back from directing the two part premiere

698
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: of High Potential, which I'm guessing will drop maybe September.

699
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: Ish nice, that's season two.

700
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: It'll be season two. It was kind of a surprise

701
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: like runaway hit for ABC and UH, and I did

702
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: the finale, which was kind of a big cliffhanger episode.

703
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: So I was cool. I was lucky. I got to

704
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: go back and sort of, you know, finish what I started,

705
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: which you know rarely happens for you know, directing television.

706
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: So it was It was a lot of fun. They

707
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: threw a lot of They threw a lot of money

708
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: at this premiere because it's a hit show now. So

709
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: I had a lot of days. I had a lot

710
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: of toys. It was a lot of fun, and UH,

711
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: fans of the show, I think, UH should be stoked

712
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 3: to know that it's not going to drop off a cliff.

713
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an old head who's still like DVRs

714
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: things to put them in front of my face to

715
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: remind me to watch them. So I have the whole

716
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: first season of that on my DVR, but I only

717
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: watched the first episode because now all I have time

718
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: to watch is sports basically, and my buddy Taran Killham

719
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: was in it.

720
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: Did you get to work with him on any of

721
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: the ones you directed?

722
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: Many times? He's pretty much in every episode.

723
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 2: Okay, he's the best.

724
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeap.

725
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: He plays Caitlin's well, she has two baby daddies. He's

726
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: the second baby daddy of the two younger children that

727
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: she has.

728
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Oh, so fun? All Right, I gotta, I gotta,

729
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: I keep saying this late. They gotta fake a coma

730
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: and watch that.

731
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: People will leave me alone for a week night.

732
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

733
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: Tarin, by the way, is trying to steal Tom's thunder

734
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: as another one of the all time sweethearts. Yes, that

735
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: I've ever come across.

736
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 5: In this.

737
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: Tom, you were working on this incredible project.

738
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I've seen clips.

739
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Reast Weatherspoon fan and I love Hello Sunshine,

740
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: and I've seen clips of her and the younger l

741
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: Woods just started coming out. How's it, Ben, tell us

742
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: something to get excited about for this show?

743
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: El Oh, it's so wonderful and she's so great. Lexi

744
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 4: Minitri who at cast as the young al they did

745
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: this national search, and she is just like lovely and

746
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: smart and funny and perfect. She's doing this perfect version

747
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 4: of Reese's character.

748
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 5: And still like.

749
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: In these scenes that we're in together where we're also

750
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: just doing this other newer version of it. It's very funny,

751
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: much like the original movie. It's similar in tone, and

752
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: it looks beautiful. The costumes are immaculate, the sets, everything

753
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: is really.

754
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 5: Really cool looking. But we're having a blast making it.

755
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: It's gotta be a it's got to be a wild

756
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: thing to go from being like the little up and

757
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: coming heart throb in that kind of project to being

758
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: the dad of the young up and comer. Like I mean,

759
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: it's inevitable because we get older, but like it just

760
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: it's always weird and funny to me when I think

761
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: of about the fact that, like if I was cast now,

762
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: I would be cast I would be too old to

763
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: be cast as a mom. But I'm like, I can

764
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: never be a mom. I'm not mature enough for that,

765
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: biologically too mature, but you know what i mean, Like,

766
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: it's just weird to see the people that when I

767
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: was coming up were like the youngsters are now all

768
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: playing the parents of the youngsters.

769
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, saying to those young actors a lot, I think,

770
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: I say, like, you know, back in mind day, and

771
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 4: they're like.

772
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: Exactly.

773
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: When I tried to get into this business, I literally

774
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: bought a DVD burner and then I had to take

775
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: a video camera out, send the footage to an editor,

776
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: put it on a DVD burn DVDs and mail them

777
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: in the mail to agents to see if they were

778
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: interested in my hosting reels.

779
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: So YouTube kind of a nice thing.

780
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: Okay, James, Before I let you go, I have one

781
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: serious question for you, because we talked about this when

782
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: you were on my podcast, my old podcast, that in

783
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 1: twenty twenty you changed your name for your acting career.

784
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: You would start it out calling yourself James Rode, but

785
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: you wanted to reclaim and go buy your birth name

786
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: James Rode Rodriguez. And that process was based on long

787
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: talks with your dad, who's Mexican American, and a real

788
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: deep dive into your heritage and really wanting to connect

789
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: yourself to that history and have it be a part

790
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: of your career in a way that when you started out,

791
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: they said, wasn't a good idea?

792
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: I know, you're in LA.

793
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: I know things there suck right now, and the current

794
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: anti immigrant sentiment from the administration and the current approach

795
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: to people in LA that are not quote unquote American

796
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: is deeply upsetting. I wonder how it's affected you personally

797
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: and how you feel like it affects folks in the

798
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: business that are welcome when they're playing a character, but

799
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: perhaps not welcome when they're themselves.

800
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 3: I think I think it's a really tricky time for

801
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: all the reasons that you've mentioned, But I also think

802
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: it's difficult to reconcile for a lot of us that

803
00:37:54,440 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: still have family that may either be undocumented or or

804
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: have been living in this country for forever and ever

805
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: and ever and maybe never got nationalized, or family that

806
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: you know is still in the country that you know

807
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: we originally came from, and whether it's affecting you personally.

808
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: It's impossible to not put on the lens of what if,

809
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 3: like what if that that, because it could easily you know,

810
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: I know that I have extended family, you know, with

811
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: spouses that are probably living in this country document and

812
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: and I can't imagine how terrifying it is because of

813
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: the way that these raids are being executed, and how

814
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: little just cause is going into any of it. And

815
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: at the same time it feels like more so maybe

816
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: than than in the past when we kind of went

817
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: through this the first time. There's a little bit of

818
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: like a wait and see approach in terms of how aggressively,

819
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: you know, we should use our platforms because we kind

820
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: of just want to wait and see if.

821
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: It backfrom which is so hard.

822
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: Epic epically and in the way that we hope that

823
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: it will. So it's like it's gone from like deaf

824
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 3: Con you know one, all the way to Deafcon five.

825
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: But then the approach is also feels it feels very,

826
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: very different, And this is a conversation that I know

827
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: is happening amongst a lot of people, not just in

828
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: our business but just period and just in terms of

829
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: like how loud to be, you know, do is enough

830
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: rope all that's required here so that it kind of

831
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: takes care of itself, because as Tom can attest as well,

832
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: we in the entertainment business oftentimes have to weigh like

833
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 3: how much good we do versus how much bad we

834
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: do by speaking up, because the backlash is sometimes even

835
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 3: bigger than you know, what you might be able to

836
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 3: accomplish by doing something because you're oftentimes preaching to a choir,

837
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: so it's it's wild times.

838
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sarah, Yeah, yeah, Just I remember like when that

839
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: when you came out and talked about your name and

840
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: your family. It was like a part of these conversations

841
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: we were having at the end of every article, it

842
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: was like, and here's a link to this to learn

843
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: more about this, and here's how you can support this,

844
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: and here's where you can give to this. And we're

845
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: not really doing that now the same way we were then,

846
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: partly because we're so shell shocked from how quickly and

847
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: terribly it's happening, and also because it happened already, so

848
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: we're like, oh this again, ship, Like, what do we

849
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: do this time?

850
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: It's very complicated.

851
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to end this interview on something very.

852
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: DeBie Downer.

853
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: At the end, we just while on that note, congratulations

854
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: on about to be taking your first l of the

855
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: season in our league, and I hope it's one of bet.

856
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: Thank you yes on that, James, thank you for joining.

857
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: Thank you both for joining this league. It's been so

858
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: fun and it's been so ultra competitive, and uh I

859
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: hope we can do it for years and years in

860
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 3: years and years to go.

861
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because next year I'm gonna know what the I'm doing.

862
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm saying that's what I'm saying. This is so fun.

863
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: I really love it, right, two hundred dollars.

864
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tom's learned nothing.

865
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: That's what we've gotten. Tom's learned nothing. Thank you guys

866
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: both for hopping down this.

867
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: With So I just like love the idea of these

868
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: like Hollywood bros.

869
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 2: Just like battling it out over Veronica Burton.

870
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: So that's right.

871
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 5: I got her love it so much the day.

872
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for the time.

873
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure your names will be invoked in future episodes,

874
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: especially if my team gets better.

875
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 5: I'm going to hold you to that sounds good. Thanks Sarah.

876
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: We got to take another break when we come back.

877
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: Buggy eyes and a wagon tongue make pickin a photo tough.

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Speaker 2: I'll explain stick.

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Speaker 1: Around Welcome Backslaces. Last week we had Howard megdel On

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Speaker 1: to talk about his new book, Becoming Caitlin Clark, and

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Speaker 1: we mentioned how funny it was that the photo on

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Speaker 1: the cover of his book looks just like the photo

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Speaker 1: on the cover of Christine Brennan's upcoming Caitlin Clark book. Well,

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Speaker 1: Howard's editor at Triumph Books, Clarissa Young, has chimed in

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Speaker 1: with an explanation that totally checks out. She forwarded me

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Speaker 1: an email she sent Howard after listening to our episode,

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Speaker 1: writing quote, just finish listening to the Sarah Spain interview

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Speaker 1: and realize I'd never shared any backstory on the cover design.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll find it funny I do. I look through

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Speaker 1: every single photo of Caitlin on the photo wires, going

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Speaker 1: back years, trying to find a possible candidate for the cover. First,

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Speaker 1: you rule out anything in the red Fever jerseys because

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Speaker 1: it's not the color people associate with her. A fun

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Speaker 1: fact is that Iowa and the Fever actually use the

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Speaker 1: same shade of yellow. Then, of course it makes the

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Speaker 1: most sense to have her shooting, so you want an

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Speaker 1: action shot. You look at the action shots and you

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Speaker 1: realize that Caitlin physically shows all her trademark intensity and

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Speaker 1: energy in a very consistent way, eyes bugging and tongue

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Speaker 1: wagging out comically to the side. Fine for editorial but

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Speaker 1: not exactly cover material. One way out of that is

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Speaker 1: to choose a photo for shooting a free throw, which

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Speaker 1: I ultimately did. Her face is much calmer, though her

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Speaker 1: laser focus is clear, yet the overall energy of the

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Speaker 1: image is lacking. Hence our close crop where you can

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Speaker 1: connect directly with her eye in the center of the cover.

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Speaker 1: Our eyes love looking at other eyes in design, and

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Speaker 1: we can often make use of that when composing covers.

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Speaker 1: It is my unwavering belief that Christine Brennan's designers went

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Speaker 1: through the exact same frustrating process. Clarissa continues, So that's

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Speaker 1: the inside baseball on the cover. It all comes down

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Speaker 1: to tongue wagging. Steph Cury presents similar issues with mouthguard wagging.

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Speaker 1: My colleagues had to deal with me randomly exclaiming about

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Speaker 1: her facial expressions as my search went deeper.

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Speaker 2: And deeper into the archives. End quote.

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Speaker 1: We love learning about processes like that, and actually, as

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Speaker 1: a result, when I was watching Caitlin's return on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: I noticed every eyebulge and tongue wag while she was playing.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Clarissa, We love that you're listening, but we want

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