1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: There's a mantra that I like to live by. It's 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: called flow and in the F is focus L live 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: and the energy, OH, outcome, detachment and w's work. 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, Emily, a body here. You are listening to 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: episode two hundred and ninety of Hurdle, a wellness focused 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 2: podcast where I talk to inspirational people about everything from 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: their highest hies and toughest moments to essential tips on 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: how to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life. 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 3: We all go through our fair share of hurdles. 10 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: My goal through these discussions is to empower you to 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: better navigate yours and move with intention so that you 12 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: can stride towards your own big potential and of course 13 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: have some fun along the way. For today's episode, I 14 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: cannot be more amps to bring you my chat with 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Monique Billings. She's a player for the Los Angeles Sparks, 16 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: which was announced legitimately in the days leading up to 17 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: this conversation. Previously, Monique played for the Atlanta Dream since 18 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and she's coming home. She's coming back to 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: where she grew up. We had the chance to chat 20 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: when we were both in San Francisco for Athleta's corporate 21 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: conference Athleticquest. Monique is a member of their Power of 22 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: she collective and truly the whole experience and recording this 23 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: with Monique in my hotel room was truly one of 24 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: a kind. It was such a special opportunity not only 25 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: to join in community with so many people who prioritize 26 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: movement and overall well being, but also to flex my 27 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: keynote skills and then moderate a panel that Monique was 28 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: on I sat on stage with I'm going to name 29 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: these quickly, Monique, Heather O'Reilly, who used to play on 30 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: the US women's national team, an olympian, katie's Afaris, who 31 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: is a triathlete also an Olympic medalist, and then Natalie 32 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: Coughlin Hi, an Olympic medalist as well a former pro swimmer. 33 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: So much amazingness on one stage. I've never been surrounded 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: by a more decorated group of women, and I was 35 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: in awe of them. 36 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: But I digress back to Monique. 37 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: Like I said today, she is a player for the 38 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Sparks, but she's also, without a doubt, one 39 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: of the most down to earth humans I've had the 40 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: pleasure of ever sitting down with in our chat today, 41 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: she talks about getting into basketball at a young age 42 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: thanks to the encouragement of her father, and how she 43 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: has carved out this path for herself where sport doesn't 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: define her, which I really really admire. I appreciate her 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: sentiments of what keeps her grounded, including her faith and 46 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: her bigger wellness practices like yoga and affirmations. And then 47 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: on that note, how we speak to ourselves. Monique offers 48 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: up some really solid advice on how to cultivate a 49 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: positive inner dialogue. 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We love it. 66 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: Big week for you, Like right off the bat, I 67 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: want to do a how are you feeling really moment. 68 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: I really think I'm trying to figure that out. I'm grateful, 69 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited, nervous. You know, there's a lot of big 70 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: changes that are going on, but I'm just trying to 71 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: stay grounded, trying to stay present. 72 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 73 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So for those that are just getting in the 74 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: loop here, we're going back to La. 75 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Yes, your girls going home, going home. 76 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: It's about time. Yeah, I think so too. 77 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: Sixty seasons in Atlanta, It's been a beautiful journey there. 78 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: Never thought I would actually like coming from California. I 79 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: never thought I would be like a southern girl and 80 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: just love it out there. So I'm definitely going to 81 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: miss it. It's bittersweet, but I'm really excited to be 82 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: coming home. 83 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: What's the most difficult part for you about not necessarily 84 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: knowing what the future holds within your career. 85 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm a planner. I like knowing, like Okay, 86 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: this is the market I'm going to be in. I 87 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: know this person in this city we're going to. This 88 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: is my schedule, I'm my playing schedule. Like just having 89 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: it all figured out, and so that two to three 90 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: week period and free agency where you don't know is 91 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: stressful because like people will be hitting you up like hey, 92 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: we're you going to be this summer? What are we doing? 93 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know. I'll get back to 94 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: you soon. So I think just the uncertainty. 95 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: Of it, what do you feel most excited for when 96 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: it comes to going back to the West Coast. 97 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Honestly, my mom and my sister coming to my games. 98 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: I went to UCLA and my mom, my dad, and 99 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: my sister were able to come to all of my games. 100 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: My dad passed two years ago, and so when I 101 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: think about just how they were all able to come 102 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: to my games when I was at UCLA, I just 103 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: realized how much I took that for granted, like I 104 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: thought it was going to be for everything, and so 105 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: now being able to come back to La, my mom 106 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: and my sister being able to come to my games, 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: it's just going to be really special and something that 108 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: I think with more maturity. Now, I'm just gonna really 109 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: not take it for granted this time around. 110 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate to jump in on this tip, but 111 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: because you brought it up, let's talk a little bit 112 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: about your dad. What's it been like continuing on in 113 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 2: sport now that he's passed. 114 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Well, honestly, I feel like I just want to honor 115 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: him through sport. He's the one that got me started 116 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: in basketball, and before he passed, he told me you 117 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: need to keep bootstopping through life. So you know, I 118 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: just try to take that approach with everything that I do, 119 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: whether I'm on the court off the court, I know 120 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: he's proud of me. I'm walking through doors that God 121 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: is opening and it's like I can like feel him 122 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: smiling down on me and just his presence with me. 123 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: So it's been okay. Yeah, it's been okay. I mean 124 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: never easy to navigate the loss of a loved one, 125 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: of course, and especially someone who is so instrumental into 126 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: getting you to do what you do to I know 127 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: that was at a young age that he came to 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: you and was like, I think you should try playing basketball. 129 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: What do you remember about that time? 130 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I mean basketball was never on my radar. 131 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Sports was never on my radar. I'm like the girliest 132 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: of girlies. I'm trying to be on a runway and 133 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: heels and address like that has always been my vibe. 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: You're six three, yes, six three, but heels probably like 135 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: six six six seven. But yeah, he came to me 136 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: one day asked if I wanted to play, and I 137 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: was like, not really, but like I wanted to make 138 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: him happy, so I tried it. I was five years 139 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: old and then, you know, no looking back. So yeah, at. 140 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: Five, did you feel a sense of excitement for the 141 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: game or was it just this thing that you felt 142 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: like you were supposed to do. 143 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I was supposed to do it. 144 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: It was just the thing that my friends were doing. 145 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: We were all just kind of there. I don't remember 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: much of it, but when I see myself, like on 147 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: video from when my dad like filmed during that time, 148 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: like I was just enjoying it, like not knowing what 149 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: I was doing, super awkward, no type of skill, but 150 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: just having fun. 151 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Were you tall from a young age as well? 152 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so we knew sports were like in the 153 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: future in some capacity. 154 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I did not appreciate my height when 155 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: I was young, but now it's like my superpower. 156 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: Oh I love it. I love superpower. 157 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So when then did you have a broader understanding 158 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: that you were going to really run with sports. 159 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: I started getting recruited in eighth grade, and I'm like, 160 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: first one in my family to go to college. I 161 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: was just always so in the moment, I'm so grateful, 162 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Like my mom and my dad really just kept me grounded, 163 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: like day to day. So when I started getting recruited, 164 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, like, I can go to college and 165 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: get a scholarship and get my education paid for through sport. 166 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: Like I didn't even know that was a thing. And 167 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: I was highly recruited, so I had a lot of 168 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: options and so that was an awesome process being able 169 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: to choose where I wanted to go and from there 170 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, like this basketball thing is 171 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: going to take me some places. 172 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, some places is an understatement. 173 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: Also so beautiful talking about you being the first one 174 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: in your family to go to college. When you made 175 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: that decision not only to go to college but then 176 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: obviously also accept a scholarship and play, what was that 177 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: like for your family? 178 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: I would say they were super proud of me. I mean, 179 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: like I said, being the first one, like the trailblazer, 180 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: And I think it was just a moment of all 181 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: the hard work paying off, all the tournaments that we 182 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: went to every single weekend, you know, as a family, 183 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: those special moments, it just kind of like paid off. 184 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 185 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: Also, being able to go to college not all that 186 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: far from home was something that was helpful in my 187 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: backyard exactly exactly. So when you get into this scene, 188 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: talk to me about being a college athlete and what 189 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: that looked like in practice for you. 190 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: They kept us booked and busy in college, Like from 191 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: the time you wake up, it's okay, you have an 192 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: early practice, so you got to get food, go to practice. 193 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: After practice, get some more food, get some recovery, ice 194 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: bags on your knees. You're walking to class with those 195 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: ice bags on your knees. Class for hours, maybe like 196 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: five six hours of class. Then you have tutoring and 197 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: all those different things other activities that you have like 198 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: with your team, and then it's late night you can 199 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: go to sleep. But tomorrow, like you do it all 200 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: over again. 201 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: Is the ice bags on the knees like common knowledge? 202 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: Like was I supposed to know that y'all were icing 203 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: your knees walking to class. 204 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: No, people would probably look at us like what are 205 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: they doing? And it's like, yo, I just got out 206 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: of a three hour practice, like, please don't look at me. Crazy? 207 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 3: Is it's also a tall woman thing. 208 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: I think it's just an athlete thing. Okay, yeah, tall 209 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: short like you got to mean? Now? No, I have 210 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: no the ice on the knees. I'll tell you get 211 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: about tim more fifteen more years on the knees could 212 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: use them. 213 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in my mid thirties now and literally, 214 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: like within the last year or two, all of a sudden, 215 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: my knees were like speaking and we were never speaking before. 216 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: We were just like, you know, coexisting. 217 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: You got to speak back though with the remedies. 218 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: You know, stop speaking. It's so awful. 219 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So, but then in college things take another turn 220 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: because it's not just like, oh, we're going to play 221 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: college ball. It's like, oh, no, we're going to take 222 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: this somewhere else. Did you what did you major in college? 223 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: Sociology? 224 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so when you thought about life after college, what 225 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: did you think of at first? 226 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: That's such an interesting question because I don't even know 227 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: if my mind was there, like I think back, Like 228 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I've always been just so present, 229 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: so grounded. Shout out to my dad for that because 230 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: he always just like kept me in the moment. And 231 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: I think that goes back to faith about just like 232 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: not worrying about the days ahead of you, just being 233 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: in the day that you're in. So I didn't have 234 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: a plan. I knew the things that I liked. I 235 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: liked I like fashion, I like food and culture and 236 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: all these different things. I didn't know what I would 237 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: do with that, and I definitely didn't think I was 238 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: going to be a professional athlete. 239 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: It's just so interesting to hear you talk about being 240 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: so in the moment, because when we started chatting, you 241 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: were talking about how you wish you could be better 242 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 2: at planning, Like you wish that you had the bandwidth 243 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: or the opportunity despite whatever else is happening with everybody 244 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: else's decisions, to plan for yourself. So to hear that 245 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: back in college you were like, Oh, I'm going to 246 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: figure it out. 247 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm very much a go with the flow type of person, 248 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: and I think that just comes with the lifestyle, just 249 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: because with basketball, I don't think a lot of people know, 250 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: but a lot of WNBA players play overseas. I've played 251 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: in ten countries, and so when you have an option 252 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: to play overseas, it could be like a team calls 253 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: you from I don't know, let's say Turkey. A team 254 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: from Turkey calls you and they're like, hey, we want 255 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: to pay you X amount. We want you to come 256 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: for however long. Let's say a month. Can you leave tomorrow? 257 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: And it's like anything else that you planned in that 258 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: time period is like out the window. It's like, I'm 259 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: gonna go get this bag. You got to tell your 260 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: friend's family. I'll see y'all later. We'll plan something later, 261 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: and I gotta go. 262 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: How does that feel like? 263 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: In I asked this in there's like an accepting of 264 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: this is how it needs to be, but also does 265 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: that come with frustration about that this is how it 266 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: needs to be. 267 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: As far as like playing overseas, I guess. 268 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: Playing overseas and that like you have to go there 269 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: to get the bag. I mean, this will get into 270 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: a much broader conversation about women in sports and paying 271 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: and media time and all that stuff. 272 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: But so I'm a very optimistic person. I always like 273 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: to see like the bright side of things. For me, 274 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: it was never a have to. It's I get to 275 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: And it's been the most enriching, beautiful experiences I've had 276 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: in my life thus far, living in all of these 277 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: different countries, being able to travel, I have, i say, 278 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: chosen family people all over the world that I'm in 279 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: that are in my network now just from playing basketball, 280 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Like those are priceless moments. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Yes, 281 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: we do want to be obviously paid better salaries in 282 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: the WNBA, and I do see that coming and on 283 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: the way in the future. But yeah, it was never 284 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: I have to. 285 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: For me. 286 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: It was like, Ooh, I get to go here, I 287 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: get to do this, Like this is dope, and that's 288 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: just me. Everybody's different. 289 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: But you know, it's interesting because I really appreciate that 290 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: mindset and it shows obviously such a growth mindset and 291 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: that this view of opportunity. I have had the chance 292 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: to talk to so many women on the show, and 293 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: it's not a shared mindset by any means. It's like, 294 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: this is what I need to do for my family, 295 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: and it can be really difficult to step away. Do 296 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: you remember when you first accepted an opportunity to play overseas. 297 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: What that was like for you totally? 298 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: So I was in college and started learning about like 299 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: WNBA overseas. This was my senior year when I knew 300 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: like I was good enough to get drafted. I was 301 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: being recruited all of that. So I was talking to 302 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: potential agent at the time. They're telling me about like 303 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: overseason my options. They said China, South Korea best places 304 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: to go. That's where the bag is. So I was like, oh, okay, 305 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: I need to get to China or South Korea. My 306 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: rookie year, I got an offer to go to China, 307 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: which is unheard of for rookies. So it was beautiful 308 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: being able to go there for four months, had a 309 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: good season there. A week after my season ends, I 310 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: come home chilling for three days. South Korea calls and 311 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, someone got hurt. Can you come pick 312 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: up this contract? We need you for six weeks. So 313 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: that's what I was saying. Like with the planning, like 314 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: at the time, I'm like, ooh, I'm going to take 315 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: a trip here, I'm going to do this and that, 316 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: and then it was just like no, I'm going to 317 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: go to South Korea for a little bit. 318 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: I am just seized. 319 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: South Korea called the whole country was like, yeah, unique, 320 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna need you now, right they called them, said 321 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: pull up, yes, sure of course I'm going to pull up. 322 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: So awesome. 323 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: Before this point in your life, had you done a 324 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: lot of international travel, No. 325 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: I think. I mean I've done a couple trips, really 326 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,239 Speaker 1: really blessed. Just by going to a power five university, 327 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: I was able to go to Australia, I went to 328 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: Poland the Bahamas just through playing at UCLA, but never 329 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: won on any trips on my own. 330 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: Okay, And so I remember when I spoke to Neco 331 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: Gumakay and she talked to me about how lonely that 332 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: experience was for her. 333 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: Did you share those sentiments at times? 334 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: But I am the type that I'll just talk to anybody, 335 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: like I end up meeting people overseas and making friends. 336 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: That's been the best part for me. Like basketball's cool, 337 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: I enjoy it, I have fun, But for me, it's 338 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: like meeting people. I have stories for days on just 339 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: like being in different places, different situations, and then ending 340 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: up at a locals house in whatever country and. 341 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm waiting for one of these stories right now. 342 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Okay, let me give you a cook one. Okay, I'm 343 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: going to Budapest. This was a year ago. I was 344 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: in Turkey playing. I'm on a plane having small talk 345 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: with this I really nice, like older man, and he 346 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: was like, I know this is really forward, but I 347 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: want to invite you to dinner with my family, my wife, 348 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: my kids, like we would love to host you. And 349 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him like your wife, your kids, Like 350 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like yeah, I doubt all that, 351 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: but whatever. So we exchanged information. I'm debating and like 352 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't have it socials like I don't know this man, 353 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, but something in me was like just go. 354 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: So I'm staying at Airbnb. I had like a little purse. 355 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: I put like a little knife in my purse. 356 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: Just in day. 357 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I don't know, sent people 358 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: my location and I went amazing experience. He did have 359 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: the wife, he did have the kids for real, you know, 360 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, I had dinner with them and I was 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: just like chilling with them and getting to know them. 362 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: They were getting to know me, and it was just 363 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: a really beautiful experience. 364 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: Were they originally from there? 365 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: The wife was from there. She's Hungarian and then he 366 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: was from Italy. Wow, and he was a chef, so 367 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: he chefed it up. And I'm still like in touch 368 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: with them, like they he texted me the other day 369 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: and was like, hey, me and the family just wanted 370 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: to say Hi, I hope you're well. 371 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: So I love that. Have you always been an outgoing person? 372 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: I would say, so, yeah, Do you think that is 373 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: something that was learned behavior from what was around you? 374 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: Or like where does that come from? 375 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know if I've ever 376 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: thought about that. I mean, yeah, maybe you ever like so, like. 377 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: Do you remember when you were younger? 378 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 2: Were you always someone who was extroverted, like down to 379 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: be in front of people, like or yeah, it's so funny. 380 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I will call myself extroverted. 381 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like introverted extroverted, Like I'm very seft 382 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: spoken to myself, but I'm a broadcaster and I you know, 383 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: I can speak in front of a crowd in front 384 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: of people, so it's kind of a weird dynamic. But 385 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: I just love interacting with people, getting to know people. 386 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: I love that. 387 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: I love that and like what cool stories you have 388 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: from being okay, being open to the you know, the 389 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: things around you totally. So you get this offer to 390 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: go abroad and you do it and you come back 391 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: and now we need to talk about getting into the WNBA. 392 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: Talk to me about draft day. 393 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so many just emotions that come with 394 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: draft day. Not again, not knowing where I'm going to be. 395 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: I had my agent there, I had my family there. 396 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: When my name was called and I was going to Atlanta, 397 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: totally was not expecting that, and low key I'm like, uh, 398 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: where's Atlanta? Like I have no idea. I'm from Cali, 399 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, so I know like Atlanta is a major city, 400 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: but like I didn't know exactly. I didn't know much 401 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: about it. So getting drafted there at first, there was 402 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty for me because I'm just like, 403 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone here and I just don't know 404 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: how this is going to be. But in hindsight, best 405 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: thing that could have ever happened to me. 406 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: What about Atlanta did you fall in love with? 407 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: Off the court? I would say the culture, the culture 408 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: of just young individuals that are getting after it. Like 409 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: I can relate to that because I'm in the same 410 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: type of boat and seeing a lot of black excellence 411 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: and black success there was awesome. And grow up in 412 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: southern California, you only see that in pockets, but in 413 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta it's in abundance. You see it everywhere. So I 414 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: think off the court that and then on the court, 415 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: just opportunity as a rookie, like I had a good 416 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: amount of playing time, I was able to kind of 417 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: solidify myself that year. That was actually my favorite year 418 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: of basketball. We made it to semi finals. Yeah, it 419 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: was just a great year. 420 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. 421 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: What would you say, aside from being surrounded by so 422 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: much black excellence, also differentiated Atlanta from Los Angeles. 423 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: I would just say the culture, Like the food scene. 424 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: There's so many different I would say like pockets in Atlanta, 425 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: Like there's low key areas, there's more mainstream areas. In LA. 426 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: A lot of people talk about like the superficial aspects 427 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: of it, and there's that's definitely a thing. You have 428 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: to kind of know people or just be in different 429 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: circles to not find that. But I think Atlanta is 430 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: just like just a breath of fresh air for me. 431 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so when you get drafted, put me in your shoes. 432 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: I think it was just like an outer body experience 433 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: for me. When I go back and watch the video 434 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: when they called my name, I'm not going to say 435 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't remember it, but it just happened so fast. 436 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: You're just like, oh my gosh, Okay, let me just 437 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: look cute on this camera, because I know there's cameras. 438 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: I know people are taking my picture, Like, let me 439 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: just look Okay. I definitely a sigh of relief. It's like, Okay, 440 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm good. I know where I'm going. Yeah. 441 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And did you at first? 442 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: I mean, you had already been abroad at this point, 443 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 2: but moving away from LA were their feelings that went 444 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: hand in him with that. 445 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, leaving my family. I had a boyfriend at the time, 446 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: leaving him, Like all those feelings and emotions, Like when 447 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: I got to the airport in Atlanta, I cried, Yeah, 448 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: like waiting for my bag. I just sat on the 449 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: seat waiting for my bag and I just cried. But 450 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: got my bags and then I was like, Okay, I'm 451 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: ready to start this new chapter. 452 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 453 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about how it feels to 454 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: try to mean a personal life when you are constantly 455 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: on the road going to and from games. Also still 456 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: traveling internationally. How does that feel for you? 457 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: It's all about balance for me. That's at the title 458 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: of my book, Finding Balance. It's just finding the things 459 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: that I can do to make me feel not burned 460 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: out from basketball, being able to have my social life 461 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: and the things that make me feel like my highest self. 462 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: So I would say my social life is pretty strong, 463 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: super intentional about who I allow into my space, what 464 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing, where I'm at, Like, I am very specific 465 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: and particular about everything. But I love that because I 466 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: think it just keeps me focused and being able to, 467 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: like I said, keep that balance. 468 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: Two things to double click on first and foremost, balance 469 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: and boundaries. For someone who hears you say I'm really 470 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: good with my boundaries and they're like, how do I 471 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: get better with my boundaries? 472 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 3: What is it that you tell them? 473 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: Well, I think you just need to assess what you're 474 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: feeling inside when you're in certain situations, what makes you 475 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: feel good, and it's like, Okay, I like how I 476 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: feel right now, Let me do more of this, let 477 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: me add more of this into my life. But also 478 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: listening to yourself when you're in situations that don't feel 479 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: so good and it's like, ooh, I don't like how 480 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm feeling. My spirit is kind of all over. I'm 481 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: not grounded right now. What do I need to do 482 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: in the future to not put myself in this type 483 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: of situation. So I think it's just going within, listening 484 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: to yourself, evaluating, and then making decisions that will help 485 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: you in the future. 486 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: It's so interesting you say that knowing that after our conversations, 487 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 2: I at eight something, You're going to yoga, and this 488 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: is something that you know that maybe sleep could be nice, 489 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: but also going to yoga is going to make me 490 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: feel good. My future self is going to thank me 491 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: for the fact that I did something like this. And 492 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: I think that in practice, until you get to a 493 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: point where you are exercising your boundaries, doing something like 494 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: that can seem pretty daunting. It can feel overwhelming. It 495 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: can feel like I don't know how you. I can't 496 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: understand how you're able to execute this routine. 497 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: I think, well, for me being on the yoga mat, 498 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: that's my meed time, and I think everyone needs to 499 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: find what their meed time is. So no matter what 500 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: that looks like, like that's me putting my phone away 501 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: kind of just separating myself from everything, and again that's 502 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: me going within. That's my time for that. And so 503 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: I think it's important to find what works for you. 504 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: An eight pm yoga class might not work for everybody, 505 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: but there's something that will work for you. It's all 506 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: about trial and error. 507 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: It's all about trial and error. The other thing that 508 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to double click on, of course. 509 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: The book. The book. What made you decide that you 510 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: wanted to write a book? 511 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: So I am so passionate about wellness and experiencing that 512 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: in my own life. I want my peers and other people, 513 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: fan supporters, just everyone to be able to experience what 514 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: wellness feels like, truly feels like. I was telling my 515 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: manager that and he was like, you need to write 516 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: a book. At the time, I'm twenty four. I'm like, yo, 517 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: twenty four year olds don't write books. Like, I'm not 518 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: trying to do that. But you know when you get 519 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: that nudge inside when spirits like, yo, this is what 520 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: you need to do. So I was like, okay. I 521 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: at the time was playing overseas in Russia. It was winter, 522 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: so I had ample time to write this book. And yeah, 523 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: it was a beautiful process. I dedicated like my nights 524 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: to writing, and so I would come home from practice 525 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: or whatever and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna write 526 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: for a couple hours. And so yeah. During that process, 527 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: wrote the book and then went through getting an editor, illustrator. 528 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: All of that self published, no ghost writer. So yeah, 529 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: two years later, looking back on it, it's opened a 530 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: lot of doors for me, helped a lot of people, 531 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: which is the most important important part for me. 532 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: What did you learn about yourself in that process? 533 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: I learned not to doubt and not to overthink, because 534 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: when you're called to do something, you just got to 535 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: trust that that's your calling. You gotta answer it and 536 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: you have to have tunnel vision when it comes to it. 537 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of times in that process 538 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: where I did not have tunnel vision. I'm like, is 539 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: this really my calling? Like I said earlier, I feel 540 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: like twenty four year olds don't write books. That's so 541 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: not true. Anyone can write a book if you have 542 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: a story that you need to tell and that pulling 543 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: that is inside of you. Of like I want other people, 544 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: like I said, to experience a good thing, a positive thing. 545 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: So I would just say, like, trust your path, trust 546 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: your purpose, trust your path, don't overthink it, and keep 547 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: good people around you who will remind you that you 548 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: are on purpose. That was big for me during that 549 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: writing process. 550 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 3: Who were those people for you? 551 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Definitely my manager, Chris Brown. Shout out to Chris because 552 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: he was the one that pushed me into writing that book. 553 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: My mom, my sister, just my close ones. 554 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: Taking a break from the show today to talk to 555 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: you about something that truly has changed my life and 556 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: how I feel in my body. 557 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: Listen, taking care of your. 558 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: Health it isn't always easy, but it should at least 559 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: be simple, and that's why for the last five something years, 560 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: I've been drinking ag. 561 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: One every day, no exceptions. 562 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: It's just one scoop mixed in water once a day, 563 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: every day, and it makes me feel energized and focused 564 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: and strong and candidly really ready to take on the day. 565 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: That's because each serving of ag one delivers my daily 566 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: dose of vitamins, minerals, pre and probiotics and more. 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That's drinkag 583 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: one dot com slash hurdle. 584 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: Go ahead, check it out. 585 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: I really resonate with the sentiments you shared about questioning, 586 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: albeit briefly, your why right. 587 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 3: You were a like, is this really what I think 588 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: that I want to do? 589 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: And I think there's room for like a broader discussion 590 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: on that right, because I've been really big on this 591 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: mantra lately, where there's a why, there's a way. Knowing 592 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: that if you have a reason to do something. Then 593 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: you're going to figure out how to get it done, 594 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: even in the moments that it feels inconvenient, even on 595 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: the days where yoga is at eight o'clock, right Like, 596 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: you're going to figure out how to get done. But 597 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that there aren't going to be moments 598 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: where you might think like yeah, yeah, right right, And 599 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: I think yes, so much insecurity for you, outside of 600 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: writing the book, talk to me a little bit about 601 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: other things that you're passionate about that you have a 602 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: strong why for. 603 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: I think that is something that is constantly evolving for me. 604 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: So in this moment, I would say, my why is 605 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: to be what I didn't have when I was growing up. 606 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: And that's just an example of strong black female who 607 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: is an athlete but also embodies beauty femininity. You know, 608 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: when I was young, I looked up to Tyra Banks 609 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's who I want to be 610 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: like when I'm older. But I didn't see the athletic 611 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: side as well. Like I'm athletic, my body type is athletic, 612 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I am strong, and obviously being a basketball player, I 613 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: embody those things too. And I never saw both of 614 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: those things. And so, yeah, at this point in my life, 615 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to show that it's possible to 616 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: be both. You don't have to separate being an athlete 617 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: a woman's athlete, from being feminine and beauty in those things. 618 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm trying to do in my career now. 619 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm like trying to draw parallels between you and any 620 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: of the other WNBA players that I've interviewed, And you 621 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: do give off like such a different vibe and energy. 622 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean you're very you are like you present super 623 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: soft in like a way that's like very like welcoming 624 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: and calming. 625 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: Oh thank you, that's such a nice yeah. 626 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: But I think that that's an example of like who, 627 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: how do you want to be perceived? And what are 628 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: you doing when you sit down with someone and like 629 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: speak with them and give them your energy? 630 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: Like why are you a certain way? 631 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: And if you're not the way that you're hoping that 632 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: you're presenting, what's preventing you from being that way? I 633 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: think so often we have these assumptions or misconceptions about 634 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: what might happen if we be ourselves. 635 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: And if you're worried. 636 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: About being who you really are, then I would go 637 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: as far as to say that you're surrounding yourself with 638 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: the wrong people. 639 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think too. It's okay to not be 640 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: for everybody. I'm not for everybody, like my self, spokenness, 641 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: my faith is big for me, Like I know that 642 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm called to be the salt light and sweet fragrance 643 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: of the earth. That's not for everybody, and that's okay. 644 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I need to prove anything to 645 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: anyone or be something that I am so comfortable in 646 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: who I am and how I show up, and I 647 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: know that that confidence makes a lot of people uncomfortable. 648 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: But I have to understand, or I've come to understand, 649 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: that a lot of people just project people don't like 650 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: who they are inside, so they're gonna hate on someone 651 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: who does like who they are inside. And I think 652 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: I've gotten to a point where I don't allow that 653 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: to hurt me anymore. But when I was younger, I 654 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: would say it definitely bothered me because I didn't understand, 655 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: like I don't talk mess about people. I'm in my 656 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: own lane, doing my own thing, Like why is so 657 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: and so hating on me? But it's just a part 658 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: of the process of when you know who you are, 659 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: Like that's gonna come. 660 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: Do you remember the turning point or the hurdle moment 661 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: that maybe you got to a point where you understood 662 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: the benefit of what you just said, where you stopped 663 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: caring so much about what other people think. 664 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's always been a process. I don't 665 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: think it was just like one moment, but I think 666 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: there were a lot of moments that I've collected, starting 667 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: I would say probably in like elementary and then high school, 668 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: middle school, and then high school. Like there's just all 669 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: these moments that have led me to where I am 670 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: today where I can confidently just walk and have peace 671 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: and just know like this is who I am, this 672 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: is how I'm showing up. 673 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 2: So Yeah, for someone that struggles embodying the confidence that 674 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: they know is deep within, do you have any tips 675 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: for them? 676 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: I would tell that person to find what they admire 677 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: about someone who they deeply admire, maybe it's a celebrity, 678 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: a friend, and then try to embody those qualities, like 679 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: what about that person makes you feel good when you're 680 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: around someone and their or their energy, their spirit, Try 681 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: to embody those things. 682 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: I feel like you're going to have a good answer 683 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: to this, and I'm sorry if I'm putting you on 684 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: the spot, what are your biggest values? 685 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: Biggest values my faith, being a Christian, my family, living 686 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: on purpose. 687 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: Elaborate on what it means for you to live on purpose. 688 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: Living on purpose for me is being true to myself, 689 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: walking in my authenticity, and like I said earlier, being 690 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: a light that's walking in my purpose. 691 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: I ask you what your values are because I believe 692 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: that when you can concretely articulate what it is that's 693 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 2: important to you, then it's no surprise to me that 694 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 2: you feel good standing in your confidence, that you feel 695 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: good upholding your boundaries. And so for others, it's a 696 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: point of frustration when they can't execute these things because 697 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: they haven't taken the time to do the work to 698 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: solidify who it is that they are. 699 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: It's a practice, like, yes, just how I started playing 700 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: basketball at five years old. I'm twenty seven now. It 701 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: has been a practice. I didn't come out the gate 702 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: getting buckets, you know, dropping dimes. It's a process and 703 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: you just have to give yourself grace because it's still 704 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: a practice for me, Like I'm saying all these things, 705 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: but I am challenged daily in Okay, this person just 706 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: irritated me. Am I going to show up in the 707 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: way that I know I'm supposed. 708 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: To show up? 709 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: Or am I going to go lower than how I 710 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: know I'm supposed to show up? And so I'm constantly 711 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: challenged in that and sometimes I pass the test, sometimes 712 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: I don't. But it's like, I just have to realize that, 713 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: take a second, reground myself, give myself grace, and just 714 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: keep going. 715 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 2: In the execution of what you just described. How do 716 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: you get to a place where you don't get down 717 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: on yourself for actions that maybe you aren't so proud 718 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: of when you reflect. 719 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: That's a practice too, I would just say, learning how 720 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: to give myself grace, learning how to talk to myself 721 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: like I would want a friend to talk to myself, 722 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: because it doesn't feel good when you're just tearing yourself down. 723 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: And lately I've been really trying to focus on choosing 724 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: the right thoughts, choosing thoughts that are empowering for me, 725 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: and understanding that my thoughts create my reality. So if 726 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm speaking negatively to myself, thinking negative things like that, 727 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: stuff is going to show up in my life. But 728 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: if I am empowering myself, speaking life into myself, that 729 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: stuff is going to show up too, And so it's 730 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: kind of just like a switch that you have to flip. 731 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: And I'd be flipping that switch all the time because 732 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: I'm human, Like we're all human. We go through those 733 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: negative emotions and things that don't feel so good. But 734 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: you have to just practice and learn how to pull 735 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: yourself up, just like you would want a friend or 736 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: a family member. It's like giving yourself a huk. 737 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: Energy attracts like energy, let's put it into practice, right, 738 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: So you're telling me that you have been consciously choosing 739 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 2: thoughts that lift you up exactly? 740 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 3: Hi, Yes, okay, we're making it. Got for care, exemplify 741 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: that for me. 742 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. So last night, I've been traveling a lot lately. 743 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. This has been a big week signing with 744 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: the Sparks, Like it's been hectic, beautiful. I'm excited about it, 745 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: but just like a lot. And so yesterday I was like, dang, 746 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: like I haven't had me time, I haven't been able 747 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: to do this. But then it's like I had to 748 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: change that because I'm like I prayed for all of this, 749 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: Like my dreams are literally happening, Like, let me just 750 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: enjoy this because these moments aren't gonna last forever. And 751 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: I literally felt a shift in my body and then 752 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: I just felt like just I don't know how to 753 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: explain it, but just so much more positive in that moment, 754 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: shifting my thoughts, changing the negativity from Dang, I'm tired, 755 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm irritated, I have to stay up late, I'm packing. 756 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: But it's like no, I get to like, I'm packing 757 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: clothes that were sent to me by athleta, you know whatever, 758 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: and just all these opportunities and it's like wow, like 759 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: this is the life. 760 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, And as you say it like that, I can 761 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 2: even envision or visualize this to be an exercise that 762 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: someone who may not really be good at this just 763 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: yet can do on their own. So if you feel 764 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: or you know, think a negative thought, ye recognize their 765 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: negative thought. Write that negative thought down. Then maybe there's 766 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 2: another negative thought that comes with that negative thought. 767 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 3: Write that down too. 768 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: To the right of that, ask yourself, how can I 769 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 2: reframe this to work for me? 770 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: What is it that my opportunity is. 771 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: Now that I've recognized what is which is the first 772 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: step to changing anything, right, then what can I do 773 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: with this circumstance and that doesn't mean that you know 774 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: overnight you're going to be able to reframe and maybe 775 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: put a positive spin on all of your thoughts. I 776 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 2: think there's some statistic and I'm going to get it 777 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: wrong now, but it's I mean a majority of our 778 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: thoughts are negative every single day. So we have then 779 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 2: the opportunity to decide how we react to those thoughts, 780 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 2: knowing that we are not our thoughts. 781 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: And I want to add, like, people don't have to 782 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: be fake about it. Don't just say something just because 783 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: you're supposed to say it. And I'm saying that with 784 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: quotations because having a positive mind. Everyone wants to have 785 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: a positive mind. But it's like, I don't want people 786 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: to have to fake it or feel like thang. I'm 787 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: saying these things, but I'm not really feeling it. It's 788 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: just about finding perspective. 789 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 2: This is how I feel about the power of like 790 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: affirmations or mantras, like I'm a very like, realistic but 791 00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: positive mantra person, like I can I will do good, 792 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: Like I just think about things that feel accessible to me. 793 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 2: If thinking like really grand is something that feels right 794 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: for you, I am not the person to tell you 795 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: not to do it. But I know that for me, 796 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: the way that positive affirmation is and mantras work is 797 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: it's like, let's keep them in a wheelhouse that actually 798 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: feels accessible. 799 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: I like that. 800 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that a lot. You mentioned packing up 801 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: your athletic suit case. You are an Athleta ambassador. Talk 802 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: to me about what that journey has been like for you. 803 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: So surreal. When I was a rookie, I wrote down 804 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: brands and companies that I would want to work with. 805 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: Athleta was on that list, and I was presented with 806 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: this opportunity a year ago. And so yeah, being one 807 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: of their athletes is just mind blowing because I wrote 808 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: it down, but I didn't know it was actually gonna happen. 809 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 3: What else have you written down that's happened for you? 810 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: I feel like we got to dig into that, man. 811 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I've worked with so many cool brands and partners, 812 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: Like last year, I think in March, I wrote down 813 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to work with Hyundai. Got that opportunity last November, 814 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: which was super cool. Wrote down. I definitely wrote down 815 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: that I wanted to go to LA or play for LA. 816 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: That's happening now. I wrote down I wanted to buy 817 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: a house, and I was kind of specific I wrote down. 818 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to buy a house with 819 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: the pool. Bought the house with the pool. Yeah, so 820 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: I've been blessed. I've been blessed. You know. 821 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: I really do think that, like vision boarding or manifesting, 822 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 2: is probably one of those practices that has so much 823 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: resistance around it. I think it's like one thing to 824 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 2: write down a positive affirmation, but it's another thing to 825 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: put on the wall, like here's my photo, here's Oprah, 826 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: and like Oprah and I are gonna have a sit 827 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: down together. Like that just feels for some to be 828 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 2: quite inaccessible. For you, when you were doing this exercise 829 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 2: of writing down things that excited you or that you 830 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 2: wanted to happen in your future, were there any parameters 831 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 2: around it. 832 00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Yeah, maybe, But I think I 833 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: try to just dream as big as I could, and 834 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: when I write these things down, I am writing it 835 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: down and I feel like I know it's coming from 836 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: from God, from within, and it's like, okay, if this 837 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: is meant to be, like, please present this to me 838 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: like I'm open to receive it, and me knowing that 839 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm on the right path. No, matter what, and just 840 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: trusting that I know that what's presented to me is 841 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: for me and whatever is not whatever is not for me, 842 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: it just wasn't meant to be. And that's totally okay. 843 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: That radical acceptance is also something that takes practice. Yeah, 844 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: I feel as though in my life lately, I've been 845 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: working to get to this place where I am okay 846 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 2: with accepting things as they come and being a little 847 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 2: less rigid about trying to make it all happen for myself, 848 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: and that I can do the work and put my 849 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: all into things. But know that the eighteenth follow up email, Like, 850 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 2: if you're sending an eighteen follow up email, that means 851 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 2: this wasn't for you in the first place. 852 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not. Ye know. 853 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 2: That's so hard though, especially when there's something that you're 854 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 2: really going after. 855 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 3: Right. 856 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: There's a mantra that I like to live by. It's 857 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: called flow and and the F is focus, L live 858 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: in the energy, oh, outcome, detachment and w's work. 859 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 3: Okay, where did this come from? 860 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I think a couple of years ago. 861 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 1: I might have heard it on a podcast or read 862 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: it somewhere. But that's how I try to live my life. 863 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: Just being in the flow, so focus, living in the energy, outcome, detachment, 864 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: putting in the work. And I feel like when you 865 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: do that, you're just surrendering and just allowing what's for 866 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: you to come and just trusting that you're going to 867 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: be guided, You're going to be protected, you're going to 868 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: be end up right where you're supposed to be, right. 869 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 2: On time, right on time. So now in this new 870 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 2: chapter with the Sparks, I. 871 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: Want to interrupt. This is a new book, even a 872 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: new chapter. We are in a new book. 873 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 3: She turned the page. 874 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 2: She closed the popes, Like, in this new book with 875 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: the Sparks, what would you say is the most exciting 876 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 2: thing for you? 877 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: I am going to reach my potential in this new book. 878 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited because I feel like I haven't even scratched 879 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: the surface on who I know that I can be 880 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: and what's inside of me. And that's one scary, but 881 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: two very exciting. And I just know that there's going 882 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: to be opportunity there for. 883 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 3: Me elaborate, like I'm reaching my potential. 884 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 2: Like what in your you close your eyes, you envision 885 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: your biggest potential, You envision what's meant for you, Like 886 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 2: what's on the board. 887 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: I'm just trusting that there's going to be so much 888 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: alignment on the court off the court, I am expected. 889 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: I am believing that I'm going to be the basketball 890 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: player that I know I can be. I'm going to 891 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: reach the milestones, the goals that I have. That's what 892 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm feeling. 893 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: What is the most difficult part for you right now? 894 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: When it comes to the game. 895 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: Overthinking? Like I'm saying all this stuff about not being 896 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: in your head again, it's a practice. The girl will 897 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: be in her head sometimes and I overthink and question 898 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: and man, is this really meant for me? You know? 899 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: Am I supposed to be doing this? 900 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 3: What do you do when those intrusive thoughts come in? 901 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: When those thoughts come in, one pray to I have 902 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: a circle of people, my chosen family, who kind of 903 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: bring me back in and remind me of my light, 904 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: remind me of who I am, because it is easy 905 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: to get lost in the saw sometimes like that's real, 906 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: But I have people around me who help to remind me. 907 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: And then another thing, I scrolled through my camera roll, 908 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 1: I will through my camera role and I'm just like, wow, 909 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: there's been like through over the years and just remember 910 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: one who I am remember the places I've gone, opportunities 911 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: that I have, and I feel like that gives me 912 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: just a sense of joy and just reminds me of 913 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: all that I am. 914 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 2: You mentioned holistic wellness being extremely important to you. I 915 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: would love to know, aside from integrating yoga regularly into 916 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 2: your routine, what are certain things that are part of 917 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: your regular practice. 918 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, my morning ritual. So for me, it's prayer, it's meditation, 919 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: it's listening to positive sound bites YouTube you know, or podcasts, 920 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: just fueling myself, fueling myself mentally and spiritually, eating the 921 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: right foods, foods that my body likes. And it's not 922 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 1: always the super healthy option, like sometimes I'm going to 923 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 1: eat a donut burger, But for the most part, for 924 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: the most part, I am super healthy and discipline with 925 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: my diet. Yeah, I would say those are my biggest practices, 926 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: All about just listening to yourself and what you want, 927 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: what you like, and what makes you feel good, what 928 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: fuels you that helps me in my holistic wellness. 929 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: Do you have like certain podcasts that you lean into regularly, 930 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: or certain YouTube accounts that you go to. 931 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, elaborate. 932 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: Okay, podcasts in Hindsight. He's amazing balanced. Black Girl is 933 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: my good friend. Hey yeah, I like her podcast. Jay 934 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: Shetty's podcast is cool Ed Milette. Those are a couple 935 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: of my favorites that I'll go back to. Mark Manson 936 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: just came out with a podcast. I really like his 937 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: podcast too. YouTube wise, what am I listening to? There's 938 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: a prayer channel on YouTube. I think it's called like 939 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: Living for a Purpose. So when I wake up in 940 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 1: the morning, like, that's what I put on when I'm 941 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: getting ready. Those are essentially my affirmations. It's like prayers 942 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: and Bible versus. So I feel like that is something 943 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: that really feels me too. 944 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 2: Question Mark Donut Burger, Yes, elaborate on that as well. 945 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: So I'm going to give a shout out to one 946 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: of my favorite restaurants in LA It's called oh My Burger, 947 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: and they have a burger it's called the Luther's Two 948 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme Donuts. It's burger patty cheese, bacon, and then 949 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: you've got to get the side of fries, which is 950 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: the garlic fries, and then you've got to get the 951 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: peach cobbler milkshake. 952 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 2: The array of flavors that just like, hey, I am, 953 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm having a moment. I'm gonna be in LA in 954 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 2: March and then in May. 955 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: So it's ten minutes from the airport too. This is 956 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen. 957 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're saying there should be a line at 958 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 2: this spot and not the in and out drive through 959 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 2: right before La. 960 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. For sure, for sure, But actually no, 961 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: because well I don't want to gate keep. But you know, 962 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: if there's a line at my spot, then you know 963 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: that's kind of messed up. 964 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: That's kind of messed up. 965 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: But you tipped everybody off right, right, you're not gatekeeping anything. Okay, 966 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 2: So we have the occasional doughnut burger, but bigger than that, 967 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 2: we're talking about foods and things that fill us up, 968 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 2: that help us feel our best self to go throughout 969 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: the rest of the day. 970 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: Clearly, morning routine super important to you. Do you have 971 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 3: a wind down routine? 972 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: I do, so I have a morning routine. For me. 973 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: It's good to have like a midday rest. I love 974 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: a nap, but even if I can't take a nap, 975 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: just taking some time off my phone and maybe just 976 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: just being still for a little bit and then yeah, 977 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: in the evening. I give myself a little bit more 978 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: flexibility when it comes to my evening routine just because 979 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: it's not as easy for me to plan where I'm 980 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: going to be or if I'm on the road traveling, 981 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: so it looks different. But definitely again trying to be 982 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: off my phone, trying to have good habits, so whether 983 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: that is meditating or reading a book. I've been trying 984 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: to implement that in twenty twenty four. 985 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're giving me an opportunity to ask you 986 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 2: what's the why behind wanting to integrate reading more often 987 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 2: into your routine. 988 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 1: Man less screen time reading and for me physical books 989 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: like I got to hold the book. I don't want 990 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: to be on a kindle or anything like that. But 991 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 1: knowledge is power, and if I know, like there's places 992 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 1: that I'm trying to get to, then I know that 993 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: my mind I need to put my mind to work. 994 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,439 Speaker 2: So this is a great example of having a why 995 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 2: for a goal. Right, So, like say, if your goal 996 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 2: is do you have a specific amount of pages or 997 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 2: like a book goal, you're trying to. 998 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: Hit twelve this year? 999 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so great example. You know that you want to 1000 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 2: read twelve books over the year, you have this strong 1001 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 2: why rooted. 1002 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 3: In who you want to be. Also less screen time. 1003 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 2: Like so many things, someone may have the same goal, 1004 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 2: but their why is because they quote unquote feel like 1005 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 2: they should. 1006 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,959 Speaker 3: That's not a good why. 1007 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So this is a really good example of 1008 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 2: like setting a goal and knowing exactly what the root 1009 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: is that you want to go for. 1010 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1011 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, So moving forward for you. So the house is in. 1012 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 1: La that you know the house is in Atlanta. 1013 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, what's happening in the house. 1014 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: So it's an investment property. Okay, Okay, it's getting rented out, 1015 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: so it's making money. 1016 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 3: It's making money. Are we going to buy another house 1017 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 3: in LA. 1018 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean that's definitely the plan. Definitely the plan. 1019 00:49:59,120 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 3: Definitely the plan. 1020 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 2: And what would you say has been one of the 1021 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 2: most difficult moments of your pro career? 1022 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: Most difficult moment for me. I just feel like I've 1023 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: always been an underdog, Like even since high school. I 1024 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: feel like I've been slept on, always having to like 1025 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: prove myself, have this chip on my shoulder. But I 1026 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: also feel like that has allowed me to make it 1027 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: to where I am today because I have to outwork 1028 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: people and I'm not going to say, I have to 1029 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: prove myself, but I can never be comfortable. 1030 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 2: I can never be comfortable. What do you think that 1031 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 2: lack of comfortability does for your game? 1032 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: I would say it just always makes me want to 1033 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: get to that next level. Like I'm not complacent. I 1034 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: know that if I do something well, maybe in a game, 1035 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 1: celebrate that for the night, but then the next day 1036 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: it's like back to work. Like I never just want 1037 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: to be content or just stuck in one place of Oh, 1038 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: I'm good. It's like, no, I know that there's warn 1039 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: me like, yeah, I'm in a good spot. Maybe you're 1040 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 1: in a good place and I feel good about my 1041 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: performance or where I'm at in my life, but there's 1042 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: more to get done, there's more ceilings to shatter. 1043 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 2: You feel as though you've always been an underdog. Has 1044 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 2: there been like a conversation or interactions that you've been 1045 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 2: a part of where that has been told to you 1046 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: as well. 1047 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: No, I would say it's more shown instead of told. 1048 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: Being slept on for different opportunities. 1049 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I feel like there's something there. 1050 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot there. There's a lot there, but it's 1051 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: a part of the journey. 1052 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, part of the journey. Wow, she's so kind. 1053 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, I just don't need to give this 1054 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 2: any energy, you need to give any air. 1055 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a. 1056 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 3: Really interesting point, right. 1057 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 2: That's another example of there's just so much power in 1058 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 2: the perspective. It's like you recognize, like, Okay, maybe I've 1059 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: been slept on for this, but like I'm not going 1060 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 2: to give my energy to that anymore. 1061 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 3: Like I'm focused on what's coming next, exactly. 1062 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: I never want to be like woe is me or 1063 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: look on and look at outer things that I can't control. 1064 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: I can't control being stepped on. I can control the 1065 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: work that I do. I can control getting to a 1066 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: place where I feel good and knowing that I'm putting 1067 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: out my best work, knowing that I'm showing up as 1068 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: my best and if people continue to sleep, I feel 1069 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,280 Speaker 1: good about what I'm doing. Getting to that point. 1070 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 3: Oh, it's so valuable. 1071 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,839 Speaker 2: It's such a good place to be because you are 1072 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 2: showing up and putting on so much work. What would 1073 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 2: you say might be a little bit different about your 1074 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 2: game compared to someone who may not have that. 1075 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 3: Let's say that dog and I'm like that. 1076 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh, extra work is going to eight pm yoga class 1077 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: it's eating the right things. It's more than just the 1078 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 1: stuff that's on the court. It's watching film, it's mentally 1079 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: preparing myself. It's being diligent about how I'm spending my 1080 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: time on the court. It's making sure I'm getting the 1081 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: reps so I feel prepared. And that confidence comes from preparation. 1082 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: So it's just being super disciplined and just diligent in 1083 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: my routines. 1084 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 3: What excites you right now? 1085 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: I am excited about opportunity. 1086 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 3: Opportunity. 1087 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 2: When someone comes to your Instagram page, they see this 1088 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 2: WNBA player also an athletic ambassador with so many followers. 1089 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 2: When you look in the mirror, what is it that 1090 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 2: you see looking back at you. 1091 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm really happy with who I see in the mirror. 1092 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: I feel like when I was a young girl, this 1093 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 1: is who I envision, This is who I want it 1094 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: to be, and so being her is just like, oh bang, okay, 1095 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: we're here. Let me continue to envision, like what's next? 1096 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: Where are we going next? When I look in the mirror, 1097 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: I feel encouraged and empowered. 1098 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's really strong stuff. How does it feel 1099 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 2: to say something like that? 1100 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, in the most humble way possible. Like, I 1101 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: don't want to come off like cocky or pretentious or 1102 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: anything like that, but saying that, it's it's real, Like, 1103 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm living in my truth. I'm 1104 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: living in my power, and I have so much more 1105 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: room to grow and to continue to become. And so 1106 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: that's also what's excites me. There's just so much more 1107 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 1: that I can reach for. 1108 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, you have an opportunity to offer yourself 1109 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 2: a piece of advice. Let's go back to the beginning 1110 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 2: of your professional career, knowing what you know now, going 1111 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 2: through the highs, the lows, the hurdles that come hand 1112 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 2: in hand with being fresh on the scene. What do 1113 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 2: you tell yourself? 1114 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: Rookie Monique was trying to rush and trying to race 1115 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: to get to where I am now, and it's gone 1116 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: so fast. I would tell her to enjoy the moment 1117 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 1: by enjoying the view on the way up the mountaintop, 1118 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: not just when you get to the top of the mountain. 1119 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 3: We love it. 1120 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 2: For those that don't follow along with you just yet, 1121 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 2: tell us, give us the info. 1122 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:52,960 Speaker 3: How do they keep up with you? 1123 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Instagram, Twitter, all that good stuff. 1124 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 2: Monique Billings, Monique Billings I'm over at Emiliabadi and at 1125 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 2: her podcast. 1126 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 3: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.