1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is media Mash, 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders dumping wisdom and offering on 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: new Heast Scrugs minimash right here on a Thursday, your 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: cowboy insiders bringing us information right here from the star 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: headquarters of the Dallas Cowboys. You got the originator, Nick Eatman, 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: un great and we got Clarence Hill fort Worth Star 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Telegram with that beautiful, beautiful vest boy. It would be 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: nice Christmas. Give My birthday is thirty, just to let 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, so you know, if you got that, you 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: can your Christmas baby. Yeah, well you want have got 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: one Christmas? You all got one game? Well you was 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: you was You was a kid that was mad. It 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: was it was. It was because the Christmas gift was 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: your birthday game put on the tree. Didn't get a 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: separate party except for holiday. You was the kid that 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: was mad at crystals. But they when got you like 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: the birthday press paper though right'll touch hey, look I'll 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: say this. They always it was always a heck of it. 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: You had to wait for that one. But it was good. 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: They made sure it was getting It was Top nights. 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: It was Top nights. So yes, December thirtieth, Lebron James Scots, 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: those are come on, yeah, those are different birthdays. Bo Diddley, 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: your days. Yes, everybody knows their day like the people 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: who they shared with. Right, who do you share? Nobody knows, 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Bo Diddley, and send the ko vaccine anymore? Oh, how 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: about that producer Jazz December twenty four, Well you really 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: getting robbed? You are really good? Hey, Jane Jane Slater? 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Your birthday? And who do you share it with? Uh? 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: November seventh? And uh? Who was the woman that developed 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: the polio vaccine? But Eric Trump, I think are you 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: always coming out of there? I think it is. Do 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: you want to unpack some things right now? We just 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: said I think I think that I'll check that. I'm 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: actually I'm looking up November seven. We're glad Jane Slater 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: can join this. But you know who else Lizzo was 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: on my birthday? How about that man? Lizzo? Kaylee Hartongue 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: from um Girl, She messed up, messed up, messed up 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: a no hitter one time Jinks and mort has my 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: birthday as well. Chris Mortson. Yes, and I'm trying to 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: see but I'm looking ye, hold on, you go ahead, 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: keep on looking there. Jane and Nick Um you talked 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: about it earlier on the break here of the owner 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: still wanting to keep up the Odell Beckham junior talk, 46 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: but where you guys went deeper, which was I thought, Hey, 47 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: this is right, he's not gonna sign with the Cowboys 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: and immediately jump on the roster. They're gonna have to 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: plun it a injury reserve and working through here to 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: getting ready to go. Take us, take take everybody through that. Nick, Jane, 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: you were like about to say something. I thought you 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: had something you want to add now. I basically though 53 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: for me, and I don't know if anyone a lot 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: of people were talking about this, but I just feel 55 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: like if he, if Odell or anybody wants to be 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: on the team for the first playoff game, then I 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: think he's got to sign this week, because you got 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: to sign this week, get on the ir it's a 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: four week return and let's let's unless they're just gonna 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: put him on the roster, which it was actually really 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: smart Nick. When I saw your article I was like, 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: wait a minute, some of us aren't thinking about that, 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: and so I and I were kicking that around. But 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: I reached out and what I was told was that 65 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: because he remains unsigned by NFL team, he's an unrestricted 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: free agent. He could be like Eric Weddle. The minute 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: he's medically cleared. He could literally show up on a 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: Monday and play on a Sunday. But I thought you were. 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: I actually thought you were really onto something. But it 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: was my understanding, Well, it's not that you're not. I 71 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: see the logic there, right. I think for the Cowboys specifically, 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: they would want him in here longer. Eight Ty talking 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: about getting up to speed on the playbook, even though 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: Dac seemed to think he's got the playbook handled as 75 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Ty spites me, it's just cowboys speak. You got to 76 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: figure out. But I think from a conditioning standpoint, I mean, 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: I think there are some concerns about OBEJ, who trains 78 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: at Exos in Arizona, that he hasn't been there as much. 79 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. All we have to do 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: is look at Twitter. How much has he actually been 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: at Exos in Arizona rehabbing. He got a profit he 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: goes backing forth. I mean, sometimes there's problems on flights, 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: but I'm saying, you know, I've always had problems on flights. 84 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean, but listen, if you are so committed to 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: literally playing in the next couple of weeks, you should 86 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: be training like Rocky every single day. But I think 87 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys got to handle on that, or they wouldn't 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: be doing this. And I think that they got a 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: handle on it. He would have not walked out of 90 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: this facility without a contract. Not just similar from Jason 91 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: Peters and t Y Hilton. What I'm saying is that 92 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: they understand where he is and where they want to 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: be if they do it. If they do it, this 94 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: is all the contingent of the Cowboys do it. So 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: it's not just him making that decision. They are. They're 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: also getting involved in the situation. And so the the 97 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: process we cut him off, man were he had a 98 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: moment of shining at an art across all of a 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: scramble night in this morning, the process of how he 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: rams up, the Cowboys got that handle. I mean, all 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: this stuff about what he's doing now if they sign him, 102 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: they understand that, and they know that, and so they 103 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: will take care of that process. They wouldn't be doing 104 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: it if they didn't feel he could do it. And 105 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: it may just be Jerry, you know, at the end 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: of the day, Yeah, you're vague, and it may just 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: be Jerry. But the bottom line is, you know, stand by. 108 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: He's going by Jerry where he threw if you're a 109 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift fan, where he threw an egg for me 110 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: yesterday and I started working the phones, I said, why 111 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: does he say this thing's about to break? What does 112 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: he mean? Like he throws out a lot of stuff, right, 113 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: And I understand Jerry, And even just talking about Obj, 114 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: I've said this. It helped that wide receiver's room really elevate. 115 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: Going back to the bye week, and then it was 116 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: the Green Bay game. We saw CD step up, Michael 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Gallup then had the two touchdown on game. But when 118 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: he said it'll break, that was taking it another step 119 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: further for me. And then when I read his article, 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, Nick, maybe you're onto something. 121 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: But the thing here is this, when Jerry says you 122 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: still thinking, still thinks has happened. But when Jarry says 123 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: stand by, because he understands there's a timeline if it's 124 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: going to happen, it has to happen quickly, rightcause all 125 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: the things in the playoffs, well, because all the things 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about, you want to get him in here 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: with the trainers to rehab and ramp up. Michael parsons 128 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: he'll be ready in five weeks. So we're now at four. Okay, 129 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: that's fine. Again, when Jerry's talking about stand by, he's 130 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: only saying that if it's going to happen, it's gonna 131 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: happen quick. It ain't happen in two weeks from now, 132 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: because that's too late. You know, there's the point of 133 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: no return now to stand by fight is right now, 134 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily as I understand it, Like Eric Weddle, 135 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you can literally come off the street and play week up. 136 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: No he can't. He can do that, But I'm talking 137 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: about for the Cowboys point of view, for him to 138 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: maximize his opportunity and for them to be for him 139 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: to help the team. They want him in here as 140 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: soon as possible so he can ramp up with might say, 141 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: that's why stand by Jerry. Then if it's if it, 142 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: take your seat, time is now stand by and they're 143 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: gonna help him. So Jared's point is if it's gonna 144 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: happen again, stand back would be today, tomorrow, this weekend. 145 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I understand that, But what I'm saying that Thursday pointed 146 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: no return for the Cowboys, which is why Jerry is 147 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: saying stand by and if they don't do it this weekend, 148 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: like this week, yes, they could go in two weeks 149 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: and they could still they could just put them on 150 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: the roster like you said, like that. They've had fifty 151 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: two players on the roster for a few weeks down. 152 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you can you can manage that. I mean, 153 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: they have three quarterbacks on the roster right now. I 154 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: mean there's things you can do. All they got one 155 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: hundred receivers on the roster right now. Yeah, there's things 156 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: you can do. That's true. Yeah, So let me ask this. 157 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it was funny because I was a pretics 158 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: of damn sorry, and I just saw Callaway's name, Like 159 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: did we forget about Antonio Callawey? You remember it well? 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: And then here remember when they sign Antonio Callaway's Like, okay, 161 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: here's the guy that they can develop it. He was 162 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: a former second round peaks. Okay, let me know what 163 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Cowboys. Let me throw out this thing 164 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: about ob j all right, so you bring him in. 165 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: Let's say he signs just a one year deal similar 166 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: for t Y. He comes in here and enjoys the 167 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: benefit of getting rehabbed by one of the best ACL 168 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: teams courtesy Doctor Cooper and Britt Brown. He then gets 169 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: access to your playbook. He's now ready to rock. And 170 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: then then he's a free agent and the Giants are 171 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: going to benefit from this in your division. If Jerry, 172 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: if you not thought that far ahead, ain't they're not 173 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: worried about him, didn't you? Am I crazy for bringing 174 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: that up as a point? I mean no, I mean 175 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: because because you got a cigarette dating it's like that, 176 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: ain't ready? Get him ready for the CB gave the 177 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: so the next personal didn't. Yeah, he didn't marry the 178 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: next girl. He just went on two dates with her. 179 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Because that's how many dates you play the Giants. I mean, yeah, 180 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: that's a that matters. But like I mean, and the 181 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Giants are gonna be a problem. Hey, I remember when 182 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: the Joss sign Jalous Smith to get the Cowboys in 183 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: tail didn't matter. Jalen's different than no, Yeah, let's not 184 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: let's not put too much Let's not put too much 185 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: stock in the intel. Oh you got the Jazz Capoy 186 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: playbook and go to help the jazz Nix knew you 187 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: got that BC powder today. I do. I do. So 188 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: if t Y Hilton plays this weekend and has a 189 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: good game, does this take Jerry's first level down a 190 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: little bit? What would it mean if if Hilton did something? 191 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: Probably just not good for James Washington and this was 192 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: watching it one good with James watching it last week. 193 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: This was also my next question. Is James Washington going 194 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: to be activated this week or do we anticipate him 195 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: being inactive? I don't know, because they don't play teams, 196 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: so you know you're not gonna see why the play 197 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: trying to correct you here, but James Washington, I was 198 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: surprised he did play special teams and and he's never 199 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: done it before, but he did. Like he was on 200 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: he was on the kickoff return, he was on the 201 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: kickoff team. He did and that he played well. I 202 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: don't think he was going down there like Kenny the 203 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Shark or anything like that, but he was. Those blinds 204 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: just came down. It was always. I mean, Clarence, you 205 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: can correct him, but he's always going to come back, 206 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: you know something that way. Well, I'm just saying you 207 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: got older guys, have never done it before. Those are 208 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: factors in and he didn't play, so I you know 209 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: that's fine. Um Jayalen Tilburn is also here, and he 210 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: who off side? Off side? I mean that he hasn't 211 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: been off sides in a month? Has he played in 212 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: a month? That's that's the point. So can I ask 213 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: you this question? And I know him. I like picking 214 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: the scabs, you know, I just I'd like picking the scalps. 215 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: That whole visual disgusting. I know, but this whole thing 216 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: is disgusting because you know what just kept Mary Cooper. 217 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: We wouldn't need t Y Hilton and and Odell Becker. 218 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: I've asked that question point blank. I said, how's this? 219 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: I've asked that question point blank, And as it was 220 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: described to me, just he was counting too much against 221 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: the cap and wasn't produced thing enough. I disagree with that. 222 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: I think you disagree with that. I think we could 223 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: go around the table and ask every single person you disagree. 224 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: This is clearly a tacit admission they've made a mistake. 225 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: That is something you and I will agree on today, 226 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: hang your hat all that, Clarence, Oh, I'm excited that 227 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: was Yeah, I don't. I don't think it was a 228 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: football It wasn't one hundred percent of a football move there, 229 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: and I yeah, I don't agree with it either. And 230 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: I think he was willing to take a little less money, 231 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: but they let their money yet, man, and he could 232 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: have taken ad they could have restructed, then, they could 233 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: have restricted, they could have done a lot of things. 234 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why I actually low key loved 235 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: this t Y signing is because you see his disposition 236 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: when he comes there, he's he feels very and I 237 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: even asked him, I go, do you feel it kind 238 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: of a Jason Peters guy? And he said absolutely. He 239 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: wants to share his knowledge. He's the fact that he's 240 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: been so energetic about getting in here learning this place. 241 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: He didn't sign and say all right, hold on, I 242 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: gotta go home, get some clothes, come back. I'll see 243 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: you guys on Wednesday, first day of practice. This guy 244 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: was committed to coming in here and helping this group. 245 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: And I think that that room sort of needed that 246 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: veteran leadership. In the postseason, they had that Amara Cooper 247 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: route runner mister. But I'm saying, I'm sorry, we're not 248 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: talking about him or anymore, but I'm saying, that's why 249 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: a lokey trying to scab anymore. That thing is healed, 250 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: and like that's right, they heal. That's why it a 251 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: heel because they still trying to injective. They still trying 252 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: to better. It's like for everyone that says, for everyone 253 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: that says, this guy have any juice, what can he do? 254 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters how much juice he really 255 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: has other than passing on his knowledge. And if he 256 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: draws off some attention from guys like CD so that 257 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: he can develop in your number one guy, that's a 258 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: win for the cowboy then honestly win for the wide 259 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: receivers around what I'll do say they did not sign 260 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: him for his damn knowledge. They signed him for They 261 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: signed him. But my point is it's not going to 262 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: be bad to have him in there. That's fine, that's 263 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: that's extenuating certain stance. They did not sign him for 264 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: his knowledge. They signed him they need somebody to stretch 265 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: the demons. They don't have anybody to go down field. 266 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: That's why they signed at point blade period. Whatever you 267 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: get about the knowledge is this is this extra But 268 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: that's not why they signed. Are you missing? That's what 269 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: you said. You led with the knowledge and they need 270 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: a veteran, No, they need sign I think it's a low, 271 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: low key good signing because of the things that he adds, 272 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: not to mention he's only costing you six hundred thousand 273 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: dollars a year. I do think that there's got to 274 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: be receivers out there that are twenty three, twenty four, 275 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: twenty five years old that can run fast and stretch 276 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: the d I think the fact that he's thirty three 277 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: and he's done it, and he's because he's proven proven knowledge. 278 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: There's two different things. Sometimes they wanted to prove a performer, 279 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: not not just because he knows, you know, can help 280 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: the room, but also being available and ready to go 281 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: because he's been taking his kids to school every king okay, 282 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: but but the knowledge and being smart as a whip, 283 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: like Jerry said, is a reason why you can play 284 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: in two days because he knows how to figure it 285 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: out here. And I think, guys, I hope he'd be 286 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: the same way. But you know what, if Odell would 287 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: have signed last week, they wouldn't be signing t Y 288 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: this week, So all that stuff is fun and dandy. 289 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: T Y was the second choice. They still make a 290 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: get Odell, but if Odell signed with them, they don't agree. 291 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: Are they gonna cut the well? Cut t Y when 292 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: the bottom They only started talking to t Y told 293 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: don't start talking to you last week. They've been thirsting 294 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: for Odell for over a month, but we have. I've 295 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: been out there. They signed. They signed t Y Hilton 296 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: well after they looked at his knee and said, you 297 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: can't play right now? That's my point. Ain't going off 298 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: for the tangent. We all know he was the backup. Well, 299 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm confused, I'm too. What are we arguing about. Let's 300 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: take our first break right here on the media mash 301 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: with Clarence Hill, Nick Eatman and Jane Slayton. When we 302 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: come back, let's empty Jane's notebook in NFL media. Tom 303 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: Pellaceros in town. No, you tapped in and got some 304 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: good knowledge, so spit it to us right here. 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Jane Slater of NFL Media, Okay, 346 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Efty that notebook. I know you've got stuff there. I 347 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: know there's things you have to say, things you want 348 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: to talk about. I just find this whole offensive line 349 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: thing very fascinating. And you know, I went up to 350 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: Zach Martin and I said, remember when we were asking 351 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: you a couple of years ago about switching from right 352 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: guard over to left tackle, and you were reluctant to 353 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: do that because of the mechanics, Like how hard is 354 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: it to move over there? And how fascinating is it 355 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: that we're having these conversations that I kind of dropped 356 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: this Tyrant Smith thing moving over to right tackle. Hasn't 357 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: played there since his workie year. Jason Peters, who hadn't 358 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: played at left tackle, said, I gotta keep it straight. 359 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: There's been so much but even he said, we've had 360 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: every combo you can have this year, but he did. 361 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: He talked about it. He's like, the vision, the mechanics, 362 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: it's all. It's different. And so if you're going to 363 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: ask guys to move at those positions, especially when we 364 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: start talking about down the stretch, don't you want to 365 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: ask your veteran guys to do it and not your rookie. 366 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, am I being crazy to suggest that? And 367 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it, we're talking in the 368 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: break Clarence. When I heard Mike McCarthy talk about Tyren Smith, 369 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: he didn't drop the right tackle thing. He said he's 370 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: been getting work at left tackle and left guard. So 371 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: my thought is, could you see then them keep Tyler 372 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: Smith at left tackle, move Tyler Smith over to left 373 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: guard because that's been his more natural position, even though 374 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: he's gotten so much work at left tackle, And then 375 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: you ask Jason Peters to play it right again. Well, 376 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: I think that's that's what's more likely. They're probably going 377 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: to go in a rotation with Peters and Ball at 378 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: right tackle. Do you like that? I like it because 379 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know it's Peter's played great on those eleven 380 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: snaps Its run the ninety eight yard drive? Forty years old? 381 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Can he play sixty snaps again in our forties? Forty 382 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: years old? Forty to do thirty? Jane Okay, forty years old? 383 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: Can he play sixty snaps? Not just one game, but 384 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: back to back to back games. He has not had 385 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: that many snaps all seasons. It's probably it's good point. 386 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: So I think that I think part of it is 387 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: ramping him up. You want, if that's gonna be your 388 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: guy in the postseason, you want to wrap him up 389 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: to thirty and forty and all this so you don't 390 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: need to do it all it one game. So I 391 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: think that you can against the Jaguars. And it's funny 392 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: because they say they take everybody seriously, but they're doing 393 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: a lot of experimenting with the Texans that they don't 394 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: do some experimenting with the Jaguars so they can be 395 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: optimal against the Eagles. How did the experimenting work for 396 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: them against the Texans? They won? That's how it worked. 397 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: It was tough, but they won. That's how I worked. 398 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: That's that's the goal. They survived it. They learned some things. 399 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: But they've been doing it all alone. How many times? 400 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because we talked so much about 401 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: the offensive line and how over the past year's time, 402 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: continuity and chemistry and you can't move this guy to 403 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: this character. How many times this season have they experimented 404 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: in the middle of games moving Karnamer governor center and 405 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: this and that. I mean, they've done that all season. 406 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: They're they're toying with it because the focus is let's 407 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: find who our best guys are for the postseason. No, 408 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: it's great, but I'm saying that's a great attitude, not 409 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: that that's one of the best things. The secret things 410 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: about what mc McCarthy and this and Sir Philibur we 411 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: gotta get filming credit. What they're doing is they're not 412 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: living on these old NFL tribes and codes of you 413 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: can't do this because we've never done this and how 414 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: dare you put that much on this guy and changed 415 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: this guy? You got to move to different positions. I mean, 416 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: it's from the beginning. Got Tyler Smith, a rookie this season, 417 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: is playing left tackle and left guard in the same game. 418 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: So yesterday at the press conference when I when I 419 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: asked Mike about the offensive line and just have you 420 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: had a situation where you've you know, moved this many 421 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: guys around and he said not healthy, I thought was 422 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. He's like, yeah, you know when guys hurt, yes, 423 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: but not which In trying to dissect where he was going, 424 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, we see Peters started, right, I think we 425 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: see some Tyrn Smith it right tackle that that just 426 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: that's just in my mind thinking, Okay, you're left. Tackle's 427 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: done a good job. You got McGovern. There these guys 428 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: that spent enough time playing together that you could possibly 429 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: just say you left. Guys, guys only left. Okay, keep 430 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: holding on here and then on the right, see what 431 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: you've got. I don't think you're left. Your left side 432 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: changes at all. I really I think it's Tyler Smith 433 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: and McGovern, I think, and I think you're right. I 434 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: don't know who starts between uh Peters or Tyrn Smith, 435 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: but I do think they're both going to play on 436 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: it right and and again that's the most acute spot. Yeah, 437 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: that's the spot that needs you know. But but again 438 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: again that's the great thing about this team is opportunities 439 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: you got. It's a good problem, Yes, it's it's disappointing, 440 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: devastating that Terrence Steal suffered is injured now for the season. Right, 441 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: But unlike past seasons when you had trash at Nickel 442 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: tackle and Swen tackle, you got Jason Peters and Tyres 443 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: Smith who had it from you got some help. So 444 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: they have played in years, but they played bet in 445 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: that trash. They we're out there for nickel tackle for 446 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: the last few years. I actually upgrade I mean, they 447 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: seriously could upgrade it right tackle. But so they're they're 448 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: sitting here telling us, you know, going down. He's leading 449 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: us and you gotta wait till Saturday dot dot dot, 450 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: So we don't know he's being about, which is I 451 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: appreciate the competitive advantage, right, and you know who's got 452 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: who's got the hot nine one one with Mike that 453 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: you can call and get Trump, get out of Tom Pelliss, 454 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: get at it. So that's what we needed. We didn't 455 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: tell him, but he's not allowed to talk about it day. 456 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: But you know, to your point though, you talked about 457 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: emptying out the notebook. When I went over, I saw 458 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis in the locker room. I said, you know, 459 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: how hard is it to sit here and watching the 460 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: sidelines And he's, you know, finally being able to walk. 461 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: And he says he's been helping out, particularly at the 462 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: nickel position. But he says dron Bland has got it 463 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: down pat, so he loves the way that he's stepping up. 464 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: But even Jonathan Hankins, who said he'll be back for 465 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs, he said, just watching. Even Quentin Bohanna. He 466 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: said just the last two weeks that his keys and 467 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: his techniques have been better. Job. But I said, have 468 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: you ever been a locker room where you've seen so 469 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: many guys that can't play really helping other guys, Because 470 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: we've seen it around here. I'm not naming names. When 471 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: you get injured, you're not helping the next guy. This 472 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: locker room has really helped the next guy up. But 473 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: I thought what he said was we're very confident in 474 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: the next man up, because I think we've talked about 475 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: it at different points a season. Sky's falling, Tyrn Smith's down, 476 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: Sky's falling down down. Credit. I do think you kind 477 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: of have to give Mike some credit. But also this 478 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: front office that we've sort of knocked in training camp 479 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: for not going out and getting this splashy guy here 480 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: or this guy here in the draft? How many how 481 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: many Pro Bowlers or first round picks have they acquired 482 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: since training camp? I mean, I think the answer is 483 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: like five. I mean you're talking about like big name 484 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: players from Anthony Barr to to Jason Peters to t 485 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Y Hilton to Tack McKinley. You know whether he plays 486 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: or not. But I mean They're doing it based off 487 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: of potential. They even got the MVP from the USFL, 488 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: the best guy in the USFL. They got him to 489 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: see if he can help, and he's been a difference. Man. 490 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: I think it's been smart addition of free agents, right 491 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: like you don't want you want guys that want to 492 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: contribute and that can lend because it is such a 493 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: young locker room. I know you keep dismissing that, but 494 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: I do think that that is important. I would say this, 495 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: and I would say this. The Cowboys have made smart 496 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: financial decisions with their veterans. I still like the move 497 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: Eagles made again, guys that can play that we know 498 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: they can play from the beginning. That's fair enough. But 499 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: look at all the entries you've had, your ten and 500 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: three and a tough division, no doubt, no doubt. Sometimes 501 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: always a younger game when you're looking at you wait 502 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: to the middle of the season to get a guy 503 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: on the chief, or should you go and prove his 504 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: position when you can prove his position of obvious? I'm 505 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: saying it's it's more than one way to skin a cat, 506 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: and certainly the Cowboys are doing well with that. Or 507 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: you can go and get some of these big name 508 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: guys like von Miller who were not even available. I'm 509 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: talking about some of the guys. But the Eagles have 510 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: done it, and they did one way and the cop 511 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: was done. Yeah, I just gonna I'm just saying two 512 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: or three best teams in the league. So one question 513 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to ask, um, because you brought up Covanta, 514 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: is he hitting the wall? Probably this is thirty two 515 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: consecutive weeks of football for him. Is he I mean, seriously, 516 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: is he in the wall? Because he had to fumble, 517 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: he had I think the poor decision on not feeling 518 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: that punt they got on before, the poor decision on 519 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: feeling the point. And he hasn't had a big return 520 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: a while, and he's you know, you know, the kick offer, 521 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: all of that. You know, I just want to know 522 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: y'all think he's I mean, God bless him. He's played 523 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: a lot of footballs made him back. But there's a 524 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: question to me whether you know, the the amount of 525 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: plays he made for a tiny guy is taking a 526 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: toll on him. But you know, I'll say this, he's 527 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: made he he has already put enough out there that 528 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: he is making plays without even touching the ball. Well, 529 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: I say touch the ball, fair catch, But I mean 530 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: there are a lot of punts yeah, that are thirty 531 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: seven yards and no no net, high hang time he 532 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: goes up there and catches it because they really don't 533 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: want to see him in the open field. So so 534 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: he is making some plays without that. But you're right, 535 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: we're not that's true. He tries so hard. He does 536 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: tries a little too. I think he feels like he's 537 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: failing if he hasn't taken him one to the house. 538 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: I really think he He told me that we actually 539 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: had a conversation. I felt like I jinxed him a 540 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: little bit because we were having this conversation and he 541 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: just I said, you just you jump up and down 542 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: after every play. You seem so disappointed when you're not midfielder. 543 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: And he said, I just want to win every play. 544 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: And I mean, you think about kind of his journey 545 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: to get where he's at. It seems to me like 546 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: he's kind of a kid that you can punch in 547 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: the face. That's probably a wrong pun. That's gonna jump 548 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: back up, but I that was that was wrong, okay. 549 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: But I do feel like he is the type of 550 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: guy that's going to respond well after that game, because 551 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: we've seen his response in the step Not everyone responds 552 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: the sort of stepbacks that he's had. And I'm not 553 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: defending him, but like she was, credit, he's taken full 554 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: accountability for a lot of that stuff too. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, 555 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: and and and and I would say this that would 556 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: you only have eight or ten plays a game to 557 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: make a play. Everyone is important to you. So he's 558 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna jump the disappointed because he only has a handful 559 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: opportunities in every game and he's out there to be 560 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: no participation. WinCE. No, I mean, I mean it's the facts. 561 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: And we only got a ten opportunities. So every one 562 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: of the importants this season could this season, the game 563 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: could have been completely different. If I know this would 564 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: have could have And he tripped if you look at 565 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: the tape, look at the film of the Eagles opening 566 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: kickoff when he was going and right and he cut 567 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: it left and he tripped, like there's no doubt about it. 568 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: Thick Grass got him. He doesn't do that. That's that 569 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: might be the touchdown. It might be seventy eighty yards 570 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: to open the game. And of course that could have 571 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: changed a lot from that game, which could have changed 572 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: the season, So, I mean, it is what it is. 573 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: But like that was, he's been so close this year? 574 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: You think he's a break one question? I don't know. 575 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: I'm just asked Tony to steal the kickover turn on? 576 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: Do you want to sacrifice him? There? Yeah? Why haven't 577 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: we seen Turpin in plays on the field? We I 578 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: asked that. He said they're in the playbook. Got him, 579 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: But I think that you'll probably see that stuff in 580 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: the postseason. Come on, don't you. I think they're saving something? 581 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: Come for Wow? Okay, close are garget plays. That's not 582 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: bread and butter of the offense. There was a gadget 583 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: player kill got in the bag. Wait, there's a gadget 584 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: play playoff? But I did. I asked him that. I said, 585 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: why I go? Do they have places? And I've seen him? 586 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: Do you see him out there with the wide receivers here? 587 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: They haven't had the Gadget place and Centric Wilson left. Okay, 588 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: but see this, you know, and I said this for 589 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: twenty years and I say it all the time, and 590 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: every time anybody in college or pro football does fleeflicker, 591 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: it gets tweeted at me, which I appreciate, but I 592 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: would run a fleeflicker once a game, and I don't 593 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: know why you wouldn't, And I've never had any offensive 594 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: coach tell me why they wouldn't, because it's situation. I 595 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: don't give a crap one a game. I want to 596 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: run the ball and flip it back. How about on 597 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: your one of your line? Is that? Is that a 598 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: good time? No, I'm not seeing then, I'm saying once 599 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: in the game, I want to do that because I 600 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: want that safety, always thinking, you know what, Ballard might 601 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: flip it back. Now he didn't. He just ran it 602 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: up the medal for eight. I don't even know if 603 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: you need a flea flicker with a guy like Turpin 604 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: as much. Just put him in a route and somebody. Well, 605 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Something a game, a gadget play. 606 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Well, and I don't even think 607 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: he needs to be a gadget first. Put him in 608 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: a legitimate you know, that's why they got t Y 609 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: Hilton here, because he can run. They need somebody to 610 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: stretch the defense. Turpets bed all year that when you're 611 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: with him, to spress the defense. For a reason, he 612 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: runs a four two. Okay, I mean, we're putting too 613 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: much into this. If he was a guy they counted, 614 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: felt good, stretch the defense and be that guy, they 615 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't have t Why simple as that. 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This is not 655 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: a commitment to lend back to media. Mash mediamash right 656 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: here on Dallas Cowboys dot com radio. He is Nick Eatman, 657 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: originated on Greater Dallas Cowboys dot com, Clarence Hill four 658 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: Star Telegram, longest tenured beat writer in the game, and 659 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: quickly becoming a Mike McCarthy favorite. I think he may 660 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: send you a Christmas card. I think I think he 661 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: may man like Mike. I know, I know you probably 662 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: already did you know? I would be pretty cool you 663 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: and Mike at a barn again. I'd like to see, Yeah, 664 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: I want to I want to see that one day. 665 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: I want to see that one He's actually I think 666 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: that was the disconnect for me when he first came here, 667 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: because it combined Margie was that guy, and then you know, 668 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: the first year we just obviously didn't get a lot 669 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: of time with him because of COVID. But I think 670 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: he has done a really good job, particularly this year, 671 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: just being himself and interacting with us. Yeah, as Mike, 672 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: Like now the Mike you see at the podium is 673 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: the mic that you get away from the podium. Yeah, 674 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: I agree. I think he's he'd be fun to just 675 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: and actually we did get the chance to do that 676 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: when he first Remember when he first hired, they brought 677 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: a few people up there. Yeah, but but he didn't 678 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: all the access. Yeah, wasn't that what you said last 679 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: week that James are bringing up old stuff? Why you 680 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: always bring up old stuff? I just gotta check you. 681 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: You walk around this divorce because divorce because my wife 682 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: to bring up old stuff? Hey, why James will bring 683 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: up some old got raised on your on your jacket there? Hey, hey, 684 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: that's not it's not person to be These people get 685 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: on this show. You see how personally get and neew 686 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: he's the worst, you guys. He likes to dig. He 687 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: he loved he thought he's a red eye past over here. 688 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: He the red eye poker. This this man right here 689 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: got you the other day with the whole you know 690 00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: that was that was where I am now. But he 691 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: has a puppet master and he does it with a smile. 692 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: You smile. Look, I'm a nice guy over Sprinkle Sprinkle, 693 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: red eye po. This is the Captain Hayter Hazer, not 694 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: a haze. I just think your nickname Chill is the 695 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: most because you're the least chill person. I know. It's 696 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: like those big guys they call tiny. He's a walking contradiction. Yeah, 697 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: Clarence is my friend brother. I take the abuse from 698 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: Clarence um your haze and pledge an you know I 699 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: pledged in nineteen ninety. We still plies it twenty twenty two. 700 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, I have a ton of 701 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: respect I really do for y'all's for turning. I'm not joking. 702 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. Yes, it's unbelievable. I've seen it. I've seen 703 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: it firsthand. I always tell that story about in Arizona 704 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: when we were driving somewhere in Arizona after a football 705 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: game and Steve Dennis so he couldn't get this guy 706 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: to give him directions for anything. I was like, oh, 707 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: I'll just go over there and you'll see a highway 708 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: and he had a shirt on the had omega. I'm 709 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: sure Clarence had the hat and he was just like, 710 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: hey man. Finally the guy saw it. They get out 711 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: of the car. They go talking for like ten minutes 712 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: over here. Clarence comes back. It's like, we're gonna go on, Hamilton, 713 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna take it right here. Then we're gonna go 714 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: up here and we're gonna laugh. We're gonna you turn 715 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go. I mean, like he had 716 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: all the information and you never met this guy. And 717 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: it was in Arizona and you were from Texas. We 718 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: were we were actually for a Cowboys game, but went 719 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: to see Ohio State play as Arizona in Tucson. We did, 720 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: and I was in Rote. We were in Rote ninety. 721 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: It was all and it was lightning and I felt 722 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: like it was right here. It was. It was a good, 723 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: it was fun. But I had an extra ticket Ohio 724 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: State jock Taylor, Steve Dennis. But it was just I 725 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: saw right then the brotherhood of the attorney. And I mean, 726 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, I always, you know, I always flirt with 727 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: doing the hooks, but I don't want to get you 728 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't, you'll get hurt. I always just say I 729 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: wish you Derek doesn't let me do it. I just 730 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: say I wish I loved something as much as Clarence 731 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: loves his bride. It's pretty. It's pretty awesome, though, it 732 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: really is. You fly that fla man. Well, you know, 733 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: I always say that I could, I could represent a nightcake. 734 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: You have a tech had on or whatever else I'd rather. 735 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: I respect that. That's a good answer. Did you see 736 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: all the love of giving you today? Going on? Here? 737 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: Christmas is like a Christmas thing. I love chill. Yeah, 738 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: so all the people on Twitter to say, I talk 739 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: over Jane, we were good. That is how we communicate 740 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: off this show, kid, because we care. I'm gonna talk 741 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: about here, what's going on? This is like group therapy. 742 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: I actually really love doing the show. It's larded a 743 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: few shows where I text Nick and I'm like, hey, 744 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: can I take the show this can? I actually really 745 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: enjoy it. And by the way, I just heard a snort, 746 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: So I just let's not make sure that it happened. 747 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: It happened, No, it snorted. I want to I want 748 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: to throw out I want to throw out a name 749 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: that I haven't heard I don't think yet, Jaguars. And 750 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: that's crazy, you know, because it was funning me because 751 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: I final wrong of the AMC South Classic of three 752 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: straight No No, No, No, no, no, not the final 753 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: wrong three straight games, because we still got up three straight, 754 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: three straight. It was three straight games here, don't. You 755 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: don't get the T shirt though, But man, can you 756 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: imagine if they beat the Eagles and and let's say 757 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles lose or whatever, and then you go to 758 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: Sense and you have a chance to clinch two divisions 759 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: in one game. You can be the NFC East Champs 760 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: and maybe and you would definitely be the AFC South Champs, 761 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: all in one game. But it's funny. But it's funny 762 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: to bring this up though, because I was looking at 763 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: the schedule. If you the record really does not reflect 764 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: how good Jacksonville is. They've played a lot of these 765 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: games pretty close, Like the Eagles game, they played them 766 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: really close. The first game against Washington, they had Washington yeah, 767 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: and then ended up losing. I actually am in Dallas 768 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: warning News I picked I picked Jacksonville to cover this 769 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: game four. So I'm glad you brought that up because 770 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: everybody in the media is already talking about Cowboys, Eagles, Christmas, 771 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: Eve and Mike, and I'm gonna bring Mike as Cowboys. 772 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: It's like the old college game of the century, you know, 773 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: that's when everybody's talking about for all the marbles, and 774 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: here was Jacksonville and we've been on the show, we're 775 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: getting we have not. You know, they overlook Houston. I 776 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: mean ce lab admitted it. They didn't take Houston City. 777 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean back McCarthy one admitted. You know dak would admitted, 778 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: but they did not have the same focus for Houston. 779 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: Are they having the same focus for Jacksonville? Knowing because 780 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: everybody around everybody, I know they got this Christmas. They 781 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: got to get tickets. I know they're already sold out 782 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: all that. Everybody's already getting tickets for Christmas. You know, 783 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: family is gonna be in town. The game of the century, 784 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 1: game of the year in the NFL, no one's talking 785 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville Jaguars, And this is one of those 786 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: trap games. Let's talk a little bit about the Jacks 787 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: because I did a little research on that Christian Kirk 788 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: type for the second most in rud zone touchdowns in 789 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's a little scary considering your cornerback situation 790 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 1: right now. You've got uh, Trevor Lawrence. He hasn't thrown 791 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: a pick in his last five games. He's been great 792 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: he's been on his game over three hundred sarched down 793 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: to two or the last three games. And you've got it. 794 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: You've got a head coach and Peterson who's got some 795 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: familiar Now he's got a losing record against the Cowboys' 796 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: head coach, but he has a familiarity at least with 797 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: this offense. In that offense to talk to a lot 798 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: of people hadn't changed that much over the years. And 799 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram had a really nice game last week, and 800 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: so yes, there are they've got weapons. All of this 801 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: is one reason why I had a million first round 802 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: picks of the last ten years. They have onely what 803 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: day Jones too? They're three and oh when he goes 804 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: for seventy or more yards, So that's the guy. You've 805 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: really got a limit too. They got a run, I 806 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: mean you have to run. And they've got to find 807 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: a way to put Jacksonville some situations so they can 808 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: get to Trevor Lawrence. When this team is sacking the quarterback, 809 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: they're good. Like Houston last week, they're not getting to 810 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback. You've got you have issues here. So they 811 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: they've got to figure out how to how to create 812 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: some pressure on on that on that excellent young quarterback. 813 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: And how do you get pressure on a six six 814 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: guy who can who can move, who can move? Who 815 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: can move? Okay, this, you know this could easily be 816 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: a Daniel Jones type game with Daniel Jones ran ran 817 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: for eight yards just just by which I think he's 818 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: more of am. He's not a Danny because he's not 819 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: He's gonna run. He's gonna run the throw. He's not 820 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna try to run the run. But 821 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: still he will. He will run. From that standpoint him, 822 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: he's well and as Mike McCarthy said, you know what 823 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: teams are gonna do it against you right now when 824 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: you know that this run defense is still not fixed, 825 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: particularly you don't have Jonathan Hankins and there right now 826 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: you got you gotta stop run. And I think that 827 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are You know, it's funny because I think 828 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 1: the Cowbirys have a better chance of us slowing down 829 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: this offense than they will did the Texas because the 830 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: Texas ran in that jump that college that we got 831 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: a running quarters, we got to pass the quarterbacks. Let's 832 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: think about it. Was it was a low key, brilliant 833 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: game player and almost a team that can throw wants 834 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: to throw right, even though the best mode to take 835 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys is to run. And so like the Vikings, 836 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: instead of be hard headed running the ball. We got 837 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson, we got a quarterback. We can throw the ball. 838 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna we'll find your playing right in the Cowboys 839 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,720 Speaker 1: answer right. So I think that Jacksonville Travis at Deanna 840 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: has had like thirty three yards and in the last 841 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: three games. I mean they are living by the arm 842 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: of their quarterback, which is great for them, but also 843 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: played right in the Cowboy's hands. Well, they don't give 844 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: up sacks though either twenty three. They don't give up 845 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: a lot. So I mean you're right about they faced 846 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: this fast pass. They haven't. They haven't and that'll be 847 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, and they and they got to they should 848 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 1: have a frustrated slash pissed off Michael Parsons this week. 849 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: And I mean he hadn't had a sack in a 850 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and he had he had some good 851 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: feedback to talking about was it you that asked this 852 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: good question? Look at me giving you some more love 853 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: today just his body getting more banged up and getting 854 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more exposed because he hasn't played that 855 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: defensive end position as much as he has this year. 856 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: And I don't think he was offering up an excuse, 857 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,479 Speaker 1: but he was like, it's a little different than last 858 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: year when you were kind of at times being used there, 859 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: and now you're being used a lot. How how he's 860 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: still learning that position and you're seeing him struggle. They're 861 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: a little he's looking human a little bits as an 862 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: old time beat, right, And I've talked to a linement. 863 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: That defense line of defense. That's war daddy. Yeah, Okay, 864 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: you're playing linebacker and you're rushing off the edge those 865 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: three four linebackers, you don't. You don't get caught in 866 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: the mix. Those are train wrecks inside every play, play 867 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: in and play out. So he's getting caught in to 868 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: wash a lot more than he did last year. You're 869 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 1: playing strictly in, you're doing those thuds, those games, those 870 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: those big six seven, three hundred pound offers, a linement 871 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: hitting on your running, that's that takes a toll on 872 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: your body. And certainly he's feeling you see that, doesn't 873 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: he look a little gas Sometimes he looks, he looks up. 874 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: He's nicked up, there's hired. It's the war Daddy position. 875 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: That thing down there is that's a whole different level 876 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: of football, and people just don't understand that to get that, 877 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: So he's feeling somebody has to fight through that. This 878 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: was fun as always as always, Uh Nick Keapman Man, 879 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: glad you could join U, Clarence and James to do 880 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: what they do each the show and it's fun and 881 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just happy to be a part of it. 882 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be a part of it. I will 883 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: see you in Jacksonville. The Flying Iguana is where Barry 884 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: Church tells me we need to go for some really 885 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: good tacos. The Flying League go on the Flying I 886 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: want to go to Jacksonville for tacos. No, thank you. 887 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm from Texas. Where are you going this? I don't know, 888 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: but I'm just not going to Jacksonville for tacos. I'm sorry. 889 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: What I'll do respect to baris tacos hater. I'm just 890 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: saying I'm born, Okay, not wrong. Goodbye, Goodbye, James. Show's 891 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: next Goodbye. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 892 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.