1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: My friend canceled her wedding after she found out her 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: fiance had dinner with another woman? Am I the a 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: hole for telling her? This is okayop Home to the 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Craziest true stories on Earth. I'm Sophia, and John should 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: ope have told him? 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: M Why am I getting a sneaking, sneaky suspicion that 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: this was actually like a work dinner. And He's like, Hey, 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta chat with my boss before the 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: big presentation tomorrow. 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Boss. Who's a woman? 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: My boss? Wo's a woman? Yeah, women can be bossed. 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Boss's pigs. Like that old joke about the doctor and 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: no one could figure it out because no one realized 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: that doctors are also women. 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: That one that I totally know and don't not. 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Know, the one where it's like my brother was dying 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: and the doctor operated and the doctor was his parent, 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: but oh no, the doctor said, this is my son, 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: but his dad wasn't there. Who was the doctor? How 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: can this be? 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: And ever him was like, what why does that sound 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: like a joker. I'm just throwing Riley under the bus today, 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, and Riley is attacking Sophia. That's the 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: circle that's happening right now? 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: Oh did I miss something attacking me? Apparently he woke 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: up with Joe's violence. 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: I just want you to read this story. 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, but I am going to say that 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: I think it's like something actually totally innocent, actually good, 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: So that Op would be the a hole technically for 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: like starting something when it's nothing. Riley has a giant 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: picture that. 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: I was trying to find this meme earlier and I 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: found it. 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: Look who's distracting us? 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: Now? 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: The audience will love it? 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: Can we please talk about the experiment who just made sandwiches? 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: Throughout the entire series on Lelan Stitch, look at him. 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: He's cute, friendly order that Rube has had the same 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: powers and strength as Stitch, but had a higher intelligence, 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: resulting in him being able to speak perfectly. But instead 43 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: of being obsessed with the story, he only cared about 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: baking sandwiches. Best invention ever. I do not remember this 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: character at all. 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: I love him anyway. 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: This front comes from our slash Okop show, So thank 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: you so much for submitting it, And if you want 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: to submit your own stories, go to r slashed Okop Show. 50 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Or four four zero five zero eight yes, wait, no, 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: Riley's trying to help me cheat six five yep, six 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: yes seven. 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 2: Wooo four zero five's are right? Six six seven called 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: that as I'll be a question there we go. 55 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So commercial video four four seven says I, female 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: thirty five, have two similar stories that I've been involved in, 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: and I want some outside perspectives. I am only reminded 58 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: of it today because I will be seeing these groups 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: of individuals in the coming weeks, and I'm kind of 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: ashamed slash embarrassed by it. All. I live in the West, however, 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: I am from a really strict culture that is not 62 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: kind to women in particular. I'll start with the first story. 63 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: This happened many years ago. My family and I went 64 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: into our city center, about an hour away from home, 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: to celebrate a family milestone. We were seated outside the 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: restaurant next to a glass window that looked inside the building. 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: As we were all reading the menus, one of my 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: siblings spotted a family friend, Harry we knew, seated inside 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: the restaurant. Harry was a family friend of ours who 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: had also been courting my first cousin, Kimberly female twenty five, 71 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: not just courting but they were planning to get married 72 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: at this point. That's fancy courting. My cousin, Kimberley Kimberly 73 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: is to be married. 74 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: Has anyone, like an older person ever asked you, guys, 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: who are you courting or are you courting this person? 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: Uh? 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: No one's ever asked me that. 78 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so. Maybe it's possible, But. 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Has anyone asked you that? 80 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: Right? 81 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's like a grandpa. 82 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, a corner. That's kind of but it's kind of fun. 83 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: I like courting. 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: Courting is nice. 85 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: It's so fancy, but also like got fun. 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: It implies like a it doesn't play a court a 87 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: court and just like that someone's like really trying to. 88 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're not just dating, not learning courting courting. 89 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: The reason we knew they were planning was that in 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: our culture, the parents of the groom are the ones 91 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: who request the blessing from the future bride's parents to 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: marry their daughter. So there was a conversation between the 93 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: families that they were going to book this event and 94 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: for us to save the date. It is a dated 95 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: tradition but still commonly practiced. Side note, if you think 96 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: this is the worst tradition. I'm happy to say it 97 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: gets worse as things progress in the relationship, but that's 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: a whole other story. A normal person wouldn't be able 99 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 1: to comprehend. Anyway. We all had turned around to see Harry, 100 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: and my dad had stood up to go say hello, 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: until my sibling wrapped his hand and told him to 102 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: sit back down. My sibling whispered that some other female 103 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: was with him, not Kimberly. We all looked over and yes, 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: it was another woman. 105 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: Ah. 106 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: Now, going back to what I said earlier, we come 107 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: from a really strict culture, so being seen with another 108 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: woman who is not your wife, mom, or sister is 109 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: a definite no no. My family, however, didn't make a fuss. 110 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: I just pretended not to see until my mom had 111 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: locked eyes with Harry and a minute later he and 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: this mystery woman were hurridly walking out the door. For 113 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: further context, Kimberly is my mom's niece, her sister's daughter. 114 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: We were all kind of shocked by his reaction, especially 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: because our families are close with Harry's and my parents 116 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: adore him, so seeing his reaction caught them off guard. 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: So quick question, Yeah, Kimberly, is the cousin Harry of 118 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Op's family. Wow, oh, he doesn't have a fiance Opie's cousin. 119 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: Cousin Opie has a cousin named Kimberly. Yes, Kimberly's fiance 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: is Harry, who's cheating? 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: But why did op say Kimberly is my mom's niece, 122 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: Because sisters don't not be like, Kimberly is my sister, 123 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: my cousin. 124 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: She was break this is yeah, She's like, this is 125 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: my mom on my mom's side. 126 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: On my mom's side. 127 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, because my mom was like, Okay, this. 128 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: Guy, Harry is cheating on her cousin. 129 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: Sorry, I shouldn't be this like about our Okay, fans, 130 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 131 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: We were all discussing what just happened, and it was 132 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: my mom that suggested we at least bring it to 133 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: the niece's attention. So that night or the next morning, 134 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: I can't recall, Mom went to her sister's house where 135 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: Kimberly lives for their note. We don't move out at 136 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: home until the wedding day. Also our tradition, here's where 137 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: I think my family is the a hole. My mom 138 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: asked Kimberly where Harry was last night and Kimberly's response 139 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: was far different from where he was meant to be. 140 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: So my mom told them everything about the night, but 141 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: kind of made a big fuss about it and demanded 142 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: she not marry him in front of both Kimberly's parents. 143 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the girl. It was pretty much 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: an ambush and my mom could have handled it better. 145 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: After this, Kimberly and Harry argued, and we had to 146 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: stop my mom from interfering after that and let Kimberly 147 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: deal with what we saw and make her own judgment. 148 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: Mom wanted to confront him, and she was incredibly upset 149 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: that he could do this to her niece. Oh she's subportive. 150 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. Yeah, Op is supporting Kimberly. 151 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, the mom is on kimberly side. Yeah, 152 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: because she went to go confront I guess I think 153 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: I think what this whole It's like, it seems like 154 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: it's like, who's the a whole? My family like together 155 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: as a unit, because it seems like everyone's like, let's 156 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: go to bat for Kimberly. 157 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: Right Oh oh oh okay, So yeah, is because the 158 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: family is like, yo, we're going to bat against this guy. 159 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: But okay, oh, he's asking because because we did it. 160 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: In front of Kimberly's parents, was that a little bit 161 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: too far? Which I can say maybe it was like 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: maybe you should have just gone to Kimberly first, But 163 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: I guess because they might be more traditional usually sometimes. 164 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: What was the setting again? They were all together at 165 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: the house or something. 166 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: In the living room talking, Uh wait. 167 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 168 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: Like? Where where where did op go? Where? Op he 169 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: saw Kimberly and spill the beans? 170 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I think they went to their house. Yeah, Kimberly 171 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: and her and so. 172 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: The parents were there. That's what it's okay. Interesting. 173 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: The following day, Harry's mom called my mom saying, you 174 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: were making a big fuss. The woman in question is 175 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: Harry's best friend who was married. She was having issues 176 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: with her husband and he went to help her out. 177 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Regardless of what the excuse was, he didn't communicate his 178 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: plans and who he would be meeting with Kimberly. Also, 179 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: his reaction to seeing us there felt off. 180 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that he ran out, Like wouldn't he be like, oh, hey. 181 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Hey, like this is my friend? Sounds so I. 182 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: Guess if it's like in the culture where it's like, oh, 183 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be like, oh, I'm getting in 184 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: trouble because of just being seen with another woman and 185 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: not that it's like actually. 186 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be like oh, like like the culture 187 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: is again you know, guys having friends who are girls. 188 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: But it also seems like op is like not about that. Yeah, 189 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: and I would guess the fiance. 190 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Would the fiance would know who this goal is. I 191 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: feel like if it was his best friend, yeah, so 192 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it wouldn't be a problem if he 193 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know, you know so and so 194 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: this is my best friend. I was just helping her out. 195 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem. 196 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: Like like wouldn't that wouldn't that look better on him 197 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: even if someone was like like in this case of 198 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: like oh oh, it's like against like the cultural normal 199 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: or whatever. If he just goes it's like, oh, hey, 200 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: you know you. 201 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: Know so this person is yeah, instead of. 202 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: Running away with him yeah sus suspecials. 203 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: Also his reaction to seeing as Sarah felt off And 204 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: this might just be me, but this restaurant was not 205 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: somewhere you take your married best friend without your partners. 206 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: When one party is feeling miserable in their relationship. This 207 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: is more of a date style restaurant, waterfront views, candles, 208 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: incredibly expensive. 209 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: M m. 210 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: Okay, you say one of your friends also someone of 211 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: the opposite sex relationship, Probably what restaurant you're taking it too? 212 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: In and out? 213 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Word, I'm like I'm almost like going to like 214 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: a walk yeah or something. 215 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you just go on a walk and you 216 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, just to like. 217 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: Maybe that's I don't know, because also it's like public 218 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: but also private at the same time, because sometimes a 219 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: restaurant can be like you don't know if you're gonna 220 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: be like seated next to someone or or if it's 221 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: like an intimate I feel like I would probably if 222 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: they're like, hey, like to. 223 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Me or honestly to the phone, just to like to. 224 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: Tell you this in person. You have to you guys 225 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: are planning something where you're going. 226 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: It's probably like like, oh, yeah, let's go to like 227 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: dinner's park and like walk around, like tell me what's 228 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: on your mind and how can I help? Probably would 229 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: be my. 230 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: Just a casual rush for me maybe yeah, not this intimate. 231 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is like that a good point, unless like 232 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: this this dude is just like super foody, rich rich guy. 233 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: That's just like guy, You're just like like, oh no, 234 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: I only eat at these restaurants. But that's probably probably 235 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: the case. 236 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Well, let's find out more. I don't know. I just 237 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: feel like you save a place like that for your 238 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: significant other. I wouldn't like my husband to take his 239 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: friend out to a nice place like that when I 240 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: am at home doing nothing. I don't know, but I 241 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: think there are. 242 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: Certain certain ones more of a gray area. Yeah, yeah, 243 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, because I don't think it's the end 244 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: of the world if you not. 245 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: Go out with your husband for everything, like with your 246 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: partner for everything. 247 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: Or or like if if someone's going through a hard 248 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: time and it's like, hey, let's let's sit down a chat. 249 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: Here's a nice place, Okay, I would be pretty pissed 250 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: if my partner went with their male friend to Samosa 251 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: House and didn't and like. 252 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: God, that would be pretty well because this dude, Yeah, 253 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: it's sacred to riotly Okay, once I'm drawn, this is quick. 254 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: On did get Somemosa House and already ate and I 255 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: was kind of like said, I was happy, but then 256 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: he later on I went to Mosa House and he 257 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: already ate and then we ate. 258 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: But it wasn't like exactly that, like he already ate. 259 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: It was just that I messed up by eating beforehand, 260 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: and I should have ate with him, but I was 261 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: already fool and I was like, just sorry, right, I 262 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: just didn't know I felt that way about sosa House 263 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: until that happened. 264 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: Strong I really feel strongly about these these never go 265 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: to Somemosa's house with that, right, I got it, got 266 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: lesson learned. 267 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: Or I need to tie myself right so I don't eat. 268 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: Before Anyway, they ended up breaking up. What shocking? That's 269 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: well yeah wow. But after this, my whole family was 270 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: viewed as terrible for starting drama. And the reason why is, 271 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: in my opinion, absolutely ridiculous. Kimberly is twenty five. At 272 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: this point in our culture, a woman of this age 273 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: should at least be married with one child. 274 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: I think I know what culture she's for them. 275 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: Oh, and everyone's opinion, we had ruined her value and 276 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: no one will want to marry her because she's too old. 277 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm not even joking. Wow. While I adore my cousin 278 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: and only want the best for her, I feel she 279 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: distanced herself from us after this too. Maybe she feels 280 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: we ruined her life, like the rest of the family 281 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: seems to think. So before I ask if my family 282 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: are a holes, let me tell you this next story. 283 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: Well at this point, where do we are they the 284 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: a whole? 285 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's kind of tough because we don't know 286 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: what he was actually doing. 287 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this point based off what we. 288 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, what are the I'm assuming it was nefarious. 289 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: I think it was. I think it was a little 290 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: bit nefarious, And I think that you should always tell people, 291 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: especially if they're like in your family. I feel like 292 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: you just let them know, yes, it's cheating on them. 293 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: I feel like if I was in this exact situation, 294 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: I would be like, to my partner, Oh, so and 295 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: so is going through a hard time, and so we're 296 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: going to get together. She asked, like get my take 297 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: and advice or whatever, Like I feel like I would 298 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 2: share that. 299 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: But she's asking if the family, not the guy, but 300 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 3: the fan the family are the a holes. 301 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 302 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: I think the mom LOOKI is saying, you need to 303 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: break up with him in front of her family. 304 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe not. 305 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done it in front of the not yeah, 306 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: I feel like you just give the information and be 307 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: like that's yes, do what you will, not like you 308 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: need to do this. 309 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: I think maybe that was a little bit a wholeish, 310 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: like yeah, because it puts her on the spot. 311 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she's also getting pressure from her parents 312 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: because I guess in this culture. 313 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're gonna like just get married. 314 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, just get married. But like they're very tight knit 315 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: because they are in that church, so they're supposed to 316 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: like be agreeing with their peers. 317 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I think that I think it was 318 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: a holish to not just bring that information to just Kimberly. 319 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: If if they had gone and been like to kim 320 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: of like, hey, here's what happened to do with that's 321 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: what you will, not a whole but because of the 322 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: way they did it, I would say I agree. 323 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: Well, there's more to the story. This was about a 324 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: year or two ago. My other cousin, Bella, female, twenty five. 325 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: I've been dating this guy, Dan and they were at 326 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: the stage where Kimberly and Harry were they were planning 327 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: their pre engagement. Now again, we know this because mom's 328 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: sister at Bella's mom was asking my mom for help 329 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: to prepare for the guests. When my sister found out 330 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: who Dan was, she came to ask me what she 331 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: should do. She told me Dan is known in the 332 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: community to be involved with buying and selling narcotics. These 333 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: were hard drugs. Again, strict background, This is a no 334 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: no to marry someone like this. We felt terrible for Bella. 335 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: I told my sister to leave it and not get involved. 336 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: Our family's already known for starting drama. My sister, however, 337 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: couldn't just step back. She called Bella. Bella couldn't believe 338 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: it and said she would look into it, but specifically 339 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: asked my sister not to tell anyone, especially her parents. Remember, 340 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: her parents will be the ones to agree to the 341 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: marriage or not. My sister told my mom too, though, 342 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: but this time my mom said she wouldn't make the 343 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: same mistake again. It took us constantly reminding her to 344 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: shut her mouth and not get involved. Anyways, the pre 345 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: engagement planned continued soon after. It was as if everything 346 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: was fine and it was just a misunderstanding, until my 347 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: sister once again got word from Dan's own friend that 348 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: he was just dealing. The night before, again, my sister 349 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: contacted Bella and told her not to ruin her life. 350 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: Dan was lying to her. She begged us not to 351 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: tell her parents and couldn't believe he was that type 352 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: of person. We all discussed this as a family, and 353 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: my mom cried for days. Still we shut our mouths again. 354 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: I kept reminding my sister that we hadn't seen it 355 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: with her own eyes and couldn't judge him based on 356 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: what other people were saying. Who knows what their intentions were. 357 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: Good point, good point. 358 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: Well. A week before the pre engagement, Bella's mum was 359 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: at a family event where she struck up a conversation 360 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: with a close family member of Dance. I'm talking very close. Well. 361 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: Through their conversation, my Auntie asked about Dan, and this 362 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: person brought it to my auntie's attention that Dan was 363 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: not a good person and involved in the narcotics trade. 364 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: When my auntie told him that he was her daughter, 365 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: this person straight out told my Auntie not to allow 366 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: this to happen if she knew it was good for 367 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: her daughter. That very same night, the pre engagement was canceled. 368 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa Opie's family drama. The magnet of knowing these 369 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: like nefarious secrets of these Yeah, like people keep. 370 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: Coming to them and I'm like, I have a secret. 371 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: God, I think, Okay, this is my speculation. I think 372 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: they're a part of a church, and they have leadership 373 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: roles in the church, and so people feel inclined to 374 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: tell them about these types of secrets so that they 375 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: can be in the politics of the church. That's where 376 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: I've kind of seen some of this because I'm like, 377 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 3: why do you know all this drama from certain people. 378 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: In the church. 379 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: It's because of that the role they play intriguing. 380 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it is, it is. It would be a 381 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 2: crazy coincidence, if a kind of crazy coincidence, if they 382 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: just were the ones that uncovered all. 383 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: These things they keep. They keep their like freaking detectives true, 384 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: except they. 385 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: Don't have to, not even trying a dry We're just 386 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: stumbling across detective. 387 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 388 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm quite proud of my mom for keeping her mouth shut. 389 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: But now there's a lot of tension with Bella and 390 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: my family, especially my sister. I'm not sure if Bella 391 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: knew what Dan was up to. I'm so sad that 392 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: she had to go through that. Though she was really 393 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: quiet for a long time and lost tons of weight, 394 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: after this happened. Yeah, that's really hard. We also barely 395 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: speak now, and I can't help but think that she 396 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: feels it is our fault forever bringing this to her attention. 397 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: What also makes it worse is that Bella was once 398 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: in a serious relationship with my sister's brother in law, 399 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: sister's husband's brother. They thank you, hope for expecting that, like, 400 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: and that didn't work out. So perhaps she feels my 401 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: sister was trying to get payback on behalf of her 402 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: brother in law who had broken up with I don't know, 403 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's just yeah, I feel like maybe it'll be 404 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: like we're just we're doing a lot of them what's 405 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: the word, A lot of jumping to conclusions. 406 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: Conclusions? 407 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it it just might be like a 408 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: hard time, yeah, Abella. 409 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, does your legs hurt from jumping to all these conclusions? 410 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: To wait for that on the edge of my seat? 411 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: Truly truly? 412 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, Brovi though, that's really hard. Before you 413 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: tell us if we are all a bunch of a holes, 414 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: I just want to say that we genuinely do love 415 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: Bella and Kimberly. They are incredibly gorgeous girls. I'm talking 416 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: like heads turned absolutely stunning, who are so kind and sweet, 417 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: the ultimate wifey type. And no, they will have no 418 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: issues finding partners. We are all just feeling incredibly guilty 419 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: for being involved in any way. It was even more 420 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: terrible to watch them go through such difficult breakups, knowing 421 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: full well how the rest of the community will take 422 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: pity on them for being less valuable now due to 423 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: their ages. Makes me so mad. So what do you 424 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: guys think? Are we the a holes? 425 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 3: Before you guys say anything? PSA if they are, you know, 426 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: looking for someone that's a nice guy, and they're like 427 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: a little too old for the people in their community, 428 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 3: but they look outside of their community if they're interested 429 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: in like some podcasts produce suits or whatever, like who 430 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: do you have in mind? You know, just text us 431 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: at whatever our number, Thank you, editor, pay. 432 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: Just text here. 433 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: And I would love to, like just just tear them out. 434 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: And I'm great with barrett'st So, but what do you 435 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: guys say? Do you think the families? 436 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: I get the sense and again we're we only know 437 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: so much. I mean, this is also part of the Okay, fans, 438 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 2: we know they have a heart goal. I feel like 439 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: op has good intentions with everything, and and it's also like, hey, look, 440 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: you know, knowing the kind of context of like, I 441 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: think that they will be able to find good, loving partners, 442 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: knowing how you know, what incredible women they are, and 443 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: it's just trying to save them from a potentially horrible marriage, 444 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 2: you know. 445 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that. I think again, what we 446 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: said earlier about like maybe the mom john the gun, Yeah, yes, 447 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: but I think intentions in that moment were in the 448 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 1: right place. And I think overall, I don't think you 449 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: guys are the Ahles, especially enough for what happened to 450 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: with Bella, because you kept your mouth shut, you brought 451 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: like you did the right thing. You brought it to 452 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: Bella one on one, yes, and then didn't say anything 453 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: to anyone until someone else brought it up. 454 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: Really learned, I think learned from the first experience of like, Okay, 455 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: my mom is like went a little hard there, so 456 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: let me let me do it this way. 457 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: I think the only thing you can do is tell 458 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: the person and it's up to them to decide what 459 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: to do. 460 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: At that point, the thing is it's out of your hands. 461 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: It's out of your hands. 462 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: You pass, you've given the information you're done. Anything more 463 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 2: is like, that's that's meddling. Would you do anything more? 464 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: But I mean it's hard. 465 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really hard because like I feel like if 466 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: I'm imagining myself in that scenario and you're kind of 467 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: just sitting there watching it unfold, you like I understand 468 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: the urge to like want to be like like, let 469 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: me help you, you know. But hope you did the 470 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: right thing. 471 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ip, it's all right, yes, correct. 472 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: And you could do the right thing by doing what 473 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: by reading this? Next door? 474 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: Let's do it. I cheated on my wife when we 475 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: were separated? Am I the A hole? 476 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: Is this ross from friends? 477 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 2: We were on a break? Whoa is it? They could be? 478 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: I heard he loves the show? What David Swimmer? Wait 479 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 2: what I'm lying. I'm literally I'm literally telling a bold 480 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: face lie to you right now. I just expectations. 481 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: I got so excited. That's really disappointing. 482 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: This is not David Swimmer. This is op Okay. 483 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: I don't even care about the story. 484 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm done. 485 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm walking off stet. Yeah, let's find out what happened. 486 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what do you what do you think? Do 487 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 2: you do you think there's actual waits. Do you think 488 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: there's like cheating when separated? That's the kind of text 489 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: that we have. 490 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: I think it depends on how long you've been separated 491 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: for that, because sometimes people get like separated because they 492 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: just don't want to go through the process of divorce 493 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: at the moment. But like in all like they know. 494 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: That they're you know, yeah, they've like communicated. Hey we're separated, 495 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: even divorced officially or whatever. 496 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: I think it's about communich yah shown And also yeah, 497 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to I'm gonna say yes because it seems 498 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: like there wasn't communication. 499 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: That's true. I'm going to say no. With how much 500 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 2: cheating when we separated, I'm going to say no. 501 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: So, yeah, we'll see because I know either way, I 502 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: just need a little memory. 503 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: Well let's find out. So Burt Toast says to Love 504 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: that my wife and I both forty, have been together 505 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 2: for fifteen years. Wow, it's a long time. 506 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 3: According to Sam's cheating scale. 507 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: Have you heard about this? No, Sam's cheating scale? What's 508 00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: Sam's You can cheat once for every four We're so 509 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: throwing him under the bus. 510 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: Wrong, that's not correct. For all you okob Vans out 511 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: there there, is no cheating scale. Someone cheats on you, 512 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: don't stay in that relationship. 513 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: We'll love to bring it back when he's on the 514 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: show later today. 515 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: Fifteen years, that's three trending towards four. 516 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: Dude. 517 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, like zero. 518 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: This this person is like well within their bounds as 519 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: far as Sam's cheating scale trade TM. The past three 520 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 2: years were turbulent and we fought all the time until 521 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: about a year ago when we decided we need time 522 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 2: apart or to separate, okay, So we chose the first option, 523 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: time apart. 524 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So they were technically separated, yes, time apart, not separated. 525 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looks like that they were on a break. 526 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: They're on a break time off. The first period we 527 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: went no contact at all, but then we started texting 528 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: and meetingful lun et cetera, and dates and whatnot. We 529 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: talked about the problems. I felt miserable without her, and 530 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: I hoped she did too, because I missed her every day. 531 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: The problems that we always fought about, the mundane stuff 532 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: were so trivial now, and we talked about how our 533 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: issues were really non issues. She said she loved and 534 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: missed me so much, and I felt so much relief 535 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: that she felt the same way. So I confess that 536 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 2: I was miserable without her and how our problems were 537 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: nothing compared to not being with her. That's sweet, that's nice, 538 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: until you became a dirty, cheating scoundrel. Ah just kidding. 539 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see. We made a plan to reconcile about 540 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: a month ago, and she moved back home. So now, okay, 541 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: separation period over time apart period over freak ovah. Before 542 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: we separated, we discussed what we are allowed to do 543 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: during our separation. She said that she didn't want to 544 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: sleep with others, but that I was free to do 545 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: it because we will be jit separated and she doesn't 546 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 2: have a right to decide over me while we aren't 547 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: a couple. 548 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so there was communication. 549 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: Op, he has permission. 550 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: Hope he has permission to. 551 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: Sleep with other people. 552 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how healthy that will. I don't 553 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: know that will help the relationship. But you take me 554 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: you're allowed to technically in the technically but relationship in 555 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: the long run, and get back together. 556 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: I slept twice with a colleague of mine. That's not right, right, 557 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: All of those few words just made it worse. Two 558 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: times with a colleague. Its some rando. It wasn't good 559 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: and I regretted it, so I ended it. The colleagues 560 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: sitting here just like joinings. Thanks buddy. When my wife 561 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: moved back, she asked me if I did something, and 562 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: I think we all know what she means. 563 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: He said I twice, just like that. 564 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: She did not. I told her the truth and she 565 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 2: was silent for a while and then said it was 566 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: fair enough and not cheating because we had already discussed possibility. 567 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's not cheating because you talked about it. 568 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: But again, I just don't think it's helpful for the relationship. 569 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: I have to we have to enter enter the tinfoil. 570 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: That poor thing. Sophia's creations have just been created, I think, 571 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: and we've kind of seen this before. Initially the wife 572 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 2: was okay. Later on, I think she will change her 573 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 2: feelings about that is what it is and is going 574 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: to be. Like I was kind of hoping inside or 575 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: now I realized I was hoping inside that you wouldn't. 576 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's I think that's seen 577 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: like it's going in that direction. Yeah, Like again, you 578 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: can't accuse him of cheating, but it's not like doesn't 579 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: feel great, doesn't feel great or does it feel great 580 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: to be like hey, like like take let's take a 581 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: swip brock in this relationship to try and figure it out. 582 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: And then Bertner's like, yeah, I'm going to sleep with people. 583 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: I just boned my coworker. 584 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: But and it sucked. 585 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: She was so mid so I you yeah, of course, babe, 586 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: Well back to reality. Since we have talked about it, 587 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: she has been distant. 588 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna help that. 589 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't going out. She says that she is 590 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: happy and that she has missed home and I too 591 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: missed her and I haven't been this happy. But I 592 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: don't know. When I ask her, she says she's fine 593 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: and not to worry. 594 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: She's not fine, right right? 595 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: Can we can we go to the woman to the 596 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: room to interpret. 597 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: That, Mum, she's not she's not fine. 598 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: She's not fine. 599 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Me read between the lines. 600 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, come on, buddy, but I don't know. 601 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: I have caught her crying a few times, but I 602 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: don't know she's crying. 603 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: But she says that it's the news. In the world's conditions, 604 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: it's tough right now. 605 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: That's so he like comes in and he's like, are 606 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: you crying? And she's like, it's global warm. 607 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: Oh god, the turtles are dying. Oh my gosh. My 608 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: wife is wild in bed and usually and I usually 609 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: don't need to do much to put her in the mood. 610 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: Now she doesn't react to my touch and sometimes we 611 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: try for a long time, but she says she can't 612 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: and just starts crying. 613 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 4: Oh. 614 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: I hate to break it to you, buddy. Yeah, she's 615 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: not fine. 616 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: She's not fine. 617 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: She's not fine. It's not global warming, it's not the 618 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: penguin's buddy. I don't know how to solve this. I 619 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: don't know if I'm imagining things. You're not that. But 620 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: even a hug or a kiss, I thin. I feel 621 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: her going rigid in my arms, but she insists it's 622 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: nothing and just that she isn't in the mood or tired. 623 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: I miss her warmth. 624 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: Ah whoa. 625 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so we got some relevant comments coming up here, 626 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 2: but uh, what do we think about what's going on 627 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: right now? 628 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: This guy seems really oblivious. 629 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, at least I guess he's almost there, 630 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: But like, dude, come on, it's like it's it's pretty hard. 631 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: I will say, I will say it is a little 632 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: tough that she's not opening up like that doesn't help 633 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: him help her. 634 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: No, I think they need to go to therapy. 635 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they really need to go to Yeah, like because 636 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: I think I think figuring out a way to be 637 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: open and communicate what's going on. So that way, Oh, 638 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: he can do what he can to try and I 639 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know what, but just to try, 640 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. Uh whatever, something that's different than what 641 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: he's doing right now probably might help the situation. Let's 642 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: get into some relevant comments. What if your wife slept 643 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: with other people? Hmmm, which I don't know. 644 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm not getting that vibe. 645 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm not getting that vibe. It's happened before. 646 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: The thing is. That's why I discussed the subject with 647 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: her before we separated. I was terrified that she would 648 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: sleep with other people because I know my wife to 649 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: be the kind that wants an emotional connection before getting 650 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: physically attracted. So it seems. 651 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Like, like, oh, it's not just gonna be if she doesn't. 652 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 653 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had nightmares about it, so I needed to 654 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: Then why did you? 655 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Why did you do it? 656 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: Okay, you were so scared about your. 657 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 3: Wife doing she's wild. She's scary, alright, Marius about her 658 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: doing that to another man? He could sleep with it? 659 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: What I think I'm going to decode, producers. I think 660 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: he's saying that she's just such an such an animal 661 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: in bed, that he's just terrified that she would share 662 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 2: that with someone else. 663 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: Is that? 664 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 665 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: Why I can't sleep? 666 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 4: No? 667 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: That other guy is he gonna be okay? 668 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: Oh oh, I see. Oh he's he's so thoughtful. He's 669 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: worried about the other guy. Okay, she's just ravenous in 670 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: the sack. Well okay, well, there you go. He's looking 671 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: out for his path ladies, me trying to decode for 672 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: his bone brother. He's looking at for his bone brother, 673 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, Producer Riley, there we go. 674 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you could decode that day. 675 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: That's good. It took me a second. I want to 676 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: lie nights about it, so I needed to ask to 677 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: see what we were expecting to do during the separation. 678 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: I don't need any emotional connection to sleep with other people. Yeah, 679 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: there he goes. I regret it, but I told myself 680 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: that we have agreed to this, which, in fairness, they 681 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: technically did do okay, but why is he. 682 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: He's like, well, we agreed to this, like, yes, I 683 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: gotta have sex with people I have to. 684 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: That is so true. 685 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: He didn't have to do anything. 686 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 2: Literally, I feel that I have cheated seeing her reaction now, 687 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: no matter if we had agreed on this or not. 688 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: So the sex wasn't good with the coworker, so you 689 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: decided to end it. I didn't mean the sex wasn't good. 690 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: The whole whoa, the whole thing wasn't good because it 691 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: isn't what I wanted because she wasn't good. That's what 692 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: I hope he is saying. This comment from a different 693 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: user summed up the comment section pretty well, it wasn't 694 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: technically cheating. Yep, he killed the relationship. Just because it's 695 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: voluntary manslaughter and not premeditated murder doesn't make it any 696 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: less dead. Yeah wow, whoa, Well that's one say. That's 697 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: one way to say that. 698 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: Goodness gracious, Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, it's true. 699 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: Now we have a mini update the next day, twenty 700 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: four hours later. Thank you everyone for listening. I have 701 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: tried to speak to my wife this evening. I asked 702 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: her for a walk. She is not fine with what happened. 703 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: What shocking, But she said she was. 704 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: She said she was okay, and she was worried about 705 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: the environment. 706 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what about the penguins. She said that she 707 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: didn't know if she will ever forget or forgive. 708 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 709 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. What surprised me is that she seemed to put 710 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: the blame on herself. She said that it was all 711 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: her fault because she started this separation idea and then 712 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 2: agreed to me sleeping with others, Like she tricked me somehow, 713 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 2: and now she wasn't fine with what she agreed upon. 714 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: No, that's so. Yeah. 715 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: She apologized and said that she knew she was being 716 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: unfair but that she couldn't help how she felt. Now, 717 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: I really really really feel for Opie's wife because I 718 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: can totally see her, like, in one instance, she's trying 719 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: to be fair and like she's like, I. 720 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: Can't expect you to not like want to have another 721 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: relationship while we're separated. Yeah, you know you can do that, 722 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: and like trying to take that a what time, yes, 723 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: to see if they can figure out this relationship and 724 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: then coming back and be like, well, I actually don't 725 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: feel great about it. 726 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: Sometimes you kind of don't. You don't know until you 727 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: know and then you know. 728 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's not even blaming him, like you can't 729 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: like control how you react exactly. 730 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: I really feel for her because I think she's done 731 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: everything right and yeah, she's just losing tragically. I tried 732 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: to explain that it wasn't her fault at all, but 733 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm not sure she's convinced because she keeps saying that 734 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: it was all her fault and that she is being unfair. 735 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I can't see her 736 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: broken like this. We have another update, but we have 737 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: to pause, Sofia, we have to pause. We have to 738 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: we have to pause. Everyone watching Sophia Briley. What do 739 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: we do? What do we do? 740 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: I think they have to go to couples therapy, I think, yeah, yeah, 741 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: I think they have to talk because it seems like 742 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: they both really love each other. Yeah, and they're just 743 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: about it communicating. 744 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: Fifteen years fifteen years a long time. I think that's 745 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: something to consider. 746 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 3: I personally have seen a couple that have been cheated 747 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: on and went to couple's therapy and still made it out. 748 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think that happens. For sure, 749 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: It happens. 750 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: It just seems like she's like a non confrontational person, 751 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: so anything he suggests she's okay with. The thing I 752 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 3: don't understand is why is he he seems very emotionally 753 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 3: attached to but he said he wasn't, but like he 754 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 3: was having nightmares of his wife. 755 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: He is emotionally attached. 756 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 3: She just said, I said he doesn't need to be 757 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 3: emotionally attached to have sex with someone. 758 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's emotionally attached. 759 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's that's the thing. Yeah, like he's having 760 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: not maries. Why would he do an act like that 761 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 3: and not really think like I don't think he thought 762 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: about what she was feeling. And I too. I think 763 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: she said it was fine just to kind of test 764 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 3: them in a way, like it kind of look seemed 765 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: like a test. 766 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if she was necessarily testing. I think 767 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: she just like thought she was fine with it. 768 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that that makes sense. I would say, like 769 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: I would I know this sounds bad, this may sound bad. 770 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 3: I might get a lot of criticism for it, but 771 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 3: I would, if I was having a separation, be like, oh, yeah, 772 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: you can have like sexual with other men, just to 773 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 3: see if they would just be like, no, pressure from 774 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 3: me whatsoever, and see what their actions are. But I 775 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: still would be hurt if they did. I just want 776 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: to see, like if no strings were attached, what they 777 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: would do in that scenario and that, Like, I don't 778 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: think she came from that, but I'm just. 779 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 2: Saying if I's not where she was coming from, I don't. 780 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: Think that's where she was going. 781 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems wrong, but that's we love a toxic 782 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 3: big protein. But I actually wasn't. 783 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, oh and then it is op the ahole, 784 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: yes or no? Everyone watching. 785 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: I just don't. Yeah, I think he's the a hole 786 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: for being for being oblivious. Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I 787 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: don't think he's technically like like if he was in 788 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: a court of law, he's in the clear. 789 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: Right, yes, but illegally illegally. 790 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: No, He's also forty his frontal cortex should have been 791 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: connected by now, Like, yeah, you have to read it between. 792 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: Lines, buddy, Yeah, come on, yeah forty you're right, you're right, Yeah, 793 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: you're getting there. 794 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 3: You're almost there. Almost where to your frontal quartet? Quarter's 795 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 3: the age it's like twenty six or thirty. 796 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 2: I love how Riley finds a way of apparently. 797 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 3: Dude, I did it, I would have said, your frontal 798 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 3: cortex is developed. 799 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: Who I thought you were saying? I thought he was 800 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: calling you fort like almost forty? 801 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no no, that's 802 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: what I Here we go, Here, we go win because 803 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 3: a man's or males? What should I put? 804 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: So do whatever you'd like? 805 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: Males brontal fully developed? No, twenty five years. 806 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: Oh so I'm done. 807 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: But apparently if you have ADHD, your frontal lobe develops later. 808 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: But like he didn't, So if Sam and I have ADHD, 809 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: we're not done yet. 810 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: The jenny is not. 811 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: Oh that everyone keeps diagnosing us with it. I saw 812 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: a comment the other day in one of the YouTube 813 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: videos where someone was like, Sam and Sophia's ADHD is 814 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: really distracting from the video. I was like, Okay, thank 815 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: you diagnosed. 816 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for letting me know. 817 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: Perfect. 818 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: If we're being honest, Sam, he's got it. 819 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: Everyone that I have not been diagnosedalticially diagnosed, but I 820 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: have been told, and I've read a lot of research. 821 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: Do you have anyone in your family that you know 822 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 2: it's been. 823 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: No, But I think that my mother she would hate this. 824 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: I think I've told her this. I think she won't 825 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: get diagnosed. But I think because it's it's genetic. Yeah, yeah, 826 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: I think that we all have it. 827 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: My mom's sister and aunt all have it. Yeah. 828 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I've done a to research. So you think 829 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna self diagnose? Yeah, everyone does. 830 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 2: Keep keep stop sending Sophia back in the rabbit hole. Okay, 831 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 2: let her. But speaking of living anyway, we have a 832 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: real life. 833 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: Oh that was really good. 834 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. I try on my I'm working on it. 835 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 2: She's a great you know what, she's a great host. 836 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 837 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: I said it and I meant it, and I won't 838 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: take it back. That's right. Let's read the update. She 839 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 2: said that she couldn't do this anymore. Oh no, Jesus, ye, 840 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: sometimes he just does that. 841 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: Look, dude, Riley's Ridley's going through it right now. He's 842 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: giving an a star performance. I just want I guess 843 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: that means sent me a happy relationship. 844 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 2: No, dude, guys, stop hurting Riley. Yeah, be wholesome. Oh goodness, 845 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: wow at plus plus plus plus this right, Riley's really 846 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 2: coming for your Riley's trying to put you int a 847 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 2: C minus and put himself in a plus. 848 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 849 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: You sold it, I'm sold, but no, I kind of it. 850 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 2: She apologized because she believes that it was all her doing, 851 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 2: because she felt like she tricked me and gave me 852 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: permission and she then couldn't keep and now everything is 853 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: ruined because of her, and that I had all the 854 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 2: reasons to hate her. No, but I don't hate her. 855 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: I hate myself very much, but I would never hate her. 856 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 2: She is the love of my life, and I regret everything, 857 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: including the break and the small stupid stuff that made 858 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 2: us fight and take the break. She moved into a hotel. 859 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: We decided to wait about telling our families until the holiday, 860 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 2: because our broken hearts are enough. We don't need to 861 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 2: break their hearts too. 862 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: This is so sad. 863 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 2: I just don't know what to do. I've lost everything. 864 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: This is my update for those of you who asked. 865 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure you will find it satisfactory given the amount 866 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: of hate you have given me on my original post. 867 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm just imagining. She's like under five foot five, 868 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 3: and she's like just like trying to figure herself out, 869 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 3: and like she just needs to be like cuddled up 870 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 3: as a caterpillar, just held and like this is dude, 871 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 872 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: Man's actually quite He's got. 873 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 2: A big heart, ladies and gentlemen. Riley's got a big heart. 874 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel so bad for both of them. Op. 875 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: It definitely is oblivious and definitely made like a mistake. Yeah, 876 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: but it seems like he really loves his wife and 877 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: they both really love each other. 878 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, tough. I think I one hundred percent agree with you. 879 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: It's it's he technically was in the he didn't end 880 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 2: up doing anything that was out of the bounds of 881 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: what they discussed, but ultimately manslaughter. You know, it's the 882 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 2: relationship still, babe. Not good. Not good. 883 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: If you love us, make sure to subscribe We love 884 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: you and see you tomorrow.