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Speaker 1: Spirits think you want to revisit. So your first take
Speaker 1: a listen kill folks like your slip. All folks that
Speaker 1: we take it good. Cain't no kids do what you
Speaker 1: doin't no kiss do what you do. Can't no kiss
Speaker 1: do what I do. Welcome to laugh and learn, ladies.
Speaker 1: Gentle we're flaming a row and Lauren Hogan come on in,
Speaker 1: and y'all come on in. The sound is good. That's
Speaker 1: what's important. As long as the sound is good, this
Speaker 1: is my heart. They come. Stay concerned about the sound
Speaker 1: more than the look. Okay, So thank you guys for
Speaker 1: joining us today here on laugh and learn. Where you
Speaker 1: at um l h. We appreciate you guys joining us.
Speaker 1: It has been a week for me. You all. I
Speaker 1: had a very bad scinus infection that turned into something else,
Speaker 1: and we've just been under siege over here in my house.
Speaker 1: But everybody is getting better, including myself. I know you've
Speaker 1: been missing me from social media, but I needed that
Speaker 1: break because I needed to heal and get better. And
Speaker 1: sometimes that break is just what what is needed to
Speaker 1: get your mind right, because social media can be draining.
Speaker 1: Taking on everybody else's livelihood and responsibility can be a very,
Speaker 1: very draining and I didn't want to be drained. I
Speaker 1: wanted to work. I need my energy. I got stuff
Speaker 1: to do. Thank you guys for joining us. We appreciate you,
Speaker 1: we missed you, and uh hopefully I will be able
Speaker 1: to bring my partner in in a second. I'm well, Hello,
Speaker 1: my baby, Hello my Lauren Hogan. My phone says buffering,
Speaker 1: Lord Jesus, I didn't drop my phone. Hold on, oh
Speaker 1: see iPhone, iPhone? No, I dropped it and got nothing
Speaker 1: to do with It's good because it's the iPhone. Let
Speaker 1: me let me just have my moment. Can I have
Speaker 1: my moment? Please? Lauren? Thank you very much. I try
Speaker 1: to come up off the iPhone and just join us.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it looked like I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: do a whole lot of things. I ain't want to
Speaker 1: do it a minute. Oh I miss you and I
Speaker 1: have missed you. How are you? Um, I'm good. I
Speaker 1: just wanna you know, it's been a lot going on. UM,
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you to everybody you
Speaker 1: know that reached out and sent so much you know,
Speaker 1: positive energy and condolences and um it's been a trump
Speaker 1: But I am a very private person, so I don't
Speaker 1: wanna talk about you know, what I've been going through
Speaker 1: on you know here that's something with laugh and learning score.
Speaker 1: But I just want to say that, UM, I really
Speaker 1: truly appreciate every mother to reach out. I know I
Speaker 1: didn't get back to everybody else, was very overwhelmed, but
Speaker 1: thank you. I love you, guys, appreciate you. So yeah,
Speaker 1: well you know we were praying for you and we're
Speaker 1: glad you on the other side of Lauren Hogan. Okay,
Speaker 1: so outside of that, thank you for the next gig
Speaker 1: that's coming up on the on the thirties for HF.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And you got a big gig coming
Speaker 1: up on the first. What you've got coming up, I do.
Speaker 1: I do. So we have a concert with Christina Aguilera
Speaker 1: and Jennifer Husband on December the Feet at the Form.
Speaker 1: So I have been really crazy busy trying to get
Speaker 1: everything together to that. But it's gonna be a great concert.
Speaker 1: It's free and it's sold oubt. So no, I don't
Speaker 1: have any more tickets less it is sold out. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my Lafe made the project. Then I'm going to
Speaker 1: go on vacase you for a little bit. You deserve it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you deserve it. I think so too.
Speaker 1: It's been a while. Yeah, I would tell you to
Speaker 1: take me with you, but don't take me on the vacation. Girl.
Speaker 1: I'm going to work. I've been off for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. I'm going to work. But I'm feeling better now.
Speaker 1: Vacation money, I'm I'm un plugging my laptop. It's not
Speaker 1: a real vacation. Don't don't be fooled. You know that.
Speaker 1: So you know me, I know your boss. He ain't
Speaker 1: he know he's not gonna play with you. So thank
Speaker 1: you flameous for joining us today. We're gonna cover a
Speaker 1: couple of things. You know, a lot of things have
Speaker 1: interesting things have happened in the news. I would say
Speaker 1: this week, but I'm gonna say this this morning. Good God,
Speaker 1: So Lord, I want you to take the lead. I'm back,
Speaker 1: but I'm not at one hundred capacity, but I'm still
Speaker 1: here and I'm ready to laugh and talk a little
Speaker 1: smack and see what I can learn and teach. Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's there's a lot of heavy
Speaker 1: stuff happening in the DA, so I think we can
Speaker 1: start lighting fun and then we can kind of get
Speaker 1: into some of the craziness is happening in the country.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask you. I realized you can
Speaker 1: talk about watch the American music for Boards last night,
Speaker 1: you know what long I started off watching the red
Speaker 1: carpet event and the set up, and I had took
Speaker 1: an ambient and yeah, and then Cardi B was watching me.
Speaker 1: She was making money moves while I was sleeping. I
Speaker 1: did see some of the costume changes because that's what
Speaker 1: I really wanted to watch. I wanted to see how
Speaker 1: the stylists had put her together. I love the way
Speaker 1: they put Cardi B together. So some of the stuff
Speaker 1: I like. But let me just say this personally, and
Speaker 1: I'm not this is no hate ration or any of that.
Speaker 1: You know how sometimes you can try. It's so hard
Speaker 1: to kill that you overthink it. I think she overshotted
Speaker 1: with a couple of those outfits, but she was still fun.
Speaker 1: She looked a little nervous, but she said, yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought someone was just a little over the top, just
Speaker 1: a little Yeah, that's how she is. Would you expect
Speaker 1: anything else from Cardi B Well, absolutely not. I want
Speaker 1: to some it was. I think it was some of
Speaker 1: the head pieces. It wasn't the clothes. I think it
Speaker 1: was like, okay, maybe two hit pieces. But then after
Speaker 1: that I was like, okay, enough enough. But she looked incredible.
Speaker 1: They had so painted and lovely and I didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to see anything, but I thought the at
Speaker 1: the clips of the BTS, boy, I like those Asian boys,
Speaker 1: those like I couldn't under I probably wouldn't understand one
Speaker 1: word they said to me. But those are some cula
Speaker 1: Asian boys, you know. I've got to tell you. They performed,
Speaker 1: um I forgot was the band that they performed with.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like I just maybe because I'm just
Speaker 1: not like I'm an old soul and hard, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And I like really value artists creativity
Speaker 1: and you know how songs are constructed them Bill, I
Speaker 1: was very underwhelmed by them. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't really do it for me. But again I'm
Speaker 1: not their age demos, so it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Who did you? Did you enjoy j Lo? Um? I
Speaker 1: kind of skipped over her performance. I will say j
Speaker 1: Lo's wasts. It's great, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: feel like at the beginning of her career, you know,
Speaker 1: people were talking about how she could sing. She won't
Speaker 1: can sing? She really can. People need to come up
Speaker 1: off her sing. Jelo getting her paper, Um, he's great.
Speaker 1: She she actually performed at the Rock and Roll Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. She did a t in a turn of
Speaker 1: tribute was introduced to her, but I thought that she
Speaker 1: was phenomenal. And then came Brown performed at uh oh
Speaker 1: Boys School, your son's school that he's currently at. Uh huh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was the American Music Awards this year. To me,
Speaker 1: the demographics were very young. It was very it was
Speaker 1: very for a very young audience. Horn, it was a
Speaker 1: very young audience. The demographic, like you said, it was,
Speaker 1: the entire show was a young show. To me, does
Speaker 1: that make me old? Or is that making me old
Speaker 1: because they were young? It no comment, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that at all. I don't
Speaker 1: think it has to do with age. I just think
Speaker 1: it has to do with like what you like, because
Speaker 1: I didn't like. I said, BCS didn't do it for me,
Speaker 1: so but those kids in the audience were going crazy
Speaker 1: for them. So I don't know. Maybe it's just different
Speaker 1: appreciations for music. I don't know. People love those uh
Speaker 1: those Asian boys people. Baby, my daughters go crazy when
Speaker 1: they see them, like Asian boys. I'm like, well, what
Speaker 1: they're talking about, I don't know. I'm like, okay, they're
Speaker 1: just pretty to look at. I'm like, oh, well, what
Speaker 1: they're thinking about, I don't know. They're just pretty to
Speaker 1: look at. There is a privilege to being pretty. I
Speaker 1: will say, uh yeah, no, but I will say that
Speaker 1: New Kids on the Block and New Edition performed together.
Speaker 1: That was something I was not expecting. Oh and Bobby Brown.
Speaker 1: They brought Bobby Brown. Oh, but Out on the Block. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and he said, well, you know, he had some bos
Speaker 1: because you know, Bobby's just tired, so he had some
Speaker 1: breaks so he was able to do the whole show.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah. My my favorite American Music Awards is
Speaker 1: probably Dana Ross hosting in eighty one or eighty two
Speaker 1: or something like that, when she changed every commercial Cardie
Speaker 1: was cute with the looks, but Diana Ross changed every
Speaker 1: commercial status of a true diva. Of course, of course,
Speaker 1: but of course your preferences, Diana Ross, that's a little bite.
Speaker 1: Knock it off, knock it off, and knock it off.
Speaker 1: Lauren Hogan, you know that's my deal. And that left.
Speaker 1: Let let me have what I have. Yeah, it was good,
Speaker 1: but um onto affertic. We're not gonna stay on long
Speaker 1: because I am not at one percent capacity with my voice,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to put too much strain on
Speaker 1: it right now. But uh, I want to thank everybody,
Speaker 1: just like Lauren, for the well wishes because I was down.
Speaker 1: I had a sinus infection that turned to something else.
Speaker 1: And thank you guys for being patient and just waiting
Speaker 1: for me to come back. I needed the time. I
Speaker 1: actually needed the time away from so your media. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize how impactful social media is on your on
Speaker 1: your mental status. It's so draining that you take on
Speaker 1: everybody else's everything. I take on everybody's everything and get
Speaker 1: passionate about it. Sometimes, even though I try to do
Speaker 1: it jokingly, I didn't realize how much detriment it was
Speaker 1: doing to me. But I'm back now and we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about what is happening in this America, this America.
Speaker 1: Are we going there or do you want to start off? Well,
Speaker 1: let's stign off with Friday. I taped for CNN, so
Speaker 1: I was back working Friday, and we covered a hodge
Speaker 1: podge of topics, including politics and music and you know,
Speaker 1: what's happening in the world. And of course we touched
Speaker 1: on the LGBT stuff and all of that come ins
Speaker 1: and what I what movies I was watching. It was
Speaker 1: a really, really great interview. It lasted for about an
Speaker 1: hour and twenty minutes. I'm excited for it. Got for
Speaker 1: to drop because Lord or no before I do, because
Speaker 1: they email her and uh, I'm excited for you guys
Speaker 1: to see it. I would I couldn't be Flame Monroe
Speaker 1: because I didn't have the energy to have my pop
Speaker 1: pop pop. But what it did made me do was
Speaker 1: sit still and speak clearly and get all get it
Speaker 1: all out. So I'm excited for you guys to see
Speaker 1: all the subjects that we covered. We did talk about
Speaker 1: the President Joe Biden. And my opinion on Joe Biden
Speaker 1: right now is stop blowing before you give I see
Speaker 1: you ready. I am. I am very disappointed with Joe
Speaker 1: Biden right now because I've realized that Joe Biden, we
Speaker 1: as black people, we helped Joe Biden accomplish a dream
Speaker 1: that he wanted his whole life, which was to be
Speaker 1: the president of the United States. I'm just waiting for
Speaker 1: him to pay us back, which he did say that
Speaker 1: he was going to, but as of yet, he has not.
Speaker 1: And it seems like everybody else is getting bills passed
Speaker 1: and laws are being made and things are happening, and
Speaker 1: Joe Biden will not be the president yea because of
Speaker 1: not not just because of age. He will not win
Speaker 1: again in this America. And you owe us, and I'm
Speaker 1: holding your fee to the fire for you to pay us.
Speaker 1: You owe us the Lynching Acts, right bills to be passed.
Speaker 1: You owe us more more faret treatment in this country.
Speaker 1: And if you have to push an executive order, I'm
Speaker 1: tired of here. And he can't get past the center.
Speaker 1: He can't get past the Congress. Trump did whatever he
Speaker 1: wanted to do with the executive orders. If you have
Speaker 1: to put down the executive order, then that so be it,
Speaker 1: because you will not be the president again. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see how I have even flipped
Speaker 1: my my mind set on Yeah, you owe us pay
Speaker 1: us and this is not this has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with a crutch. You owe us pay us. Well, I've
Speaker 1: been you have you have come to the other side. Welcome,
Speaker 1: We welcome you. I think the issues that I have
Speaker 1: and I think almost like put gonna be the nail
Speaker 1: in his often is his statement that he put out
Speaker 1: after the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict came down and him basically
Speaker 1: instead of understanding that there is a serious uh racism
Speaker 1: element within the justice system, instead of him recognizing that
Speaker 1: considering all of the elements that were around Kyle Rittenhouse. Now, granted,
Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily shoot anybody that was black, but he
Speaker 1: also he intentionally went to a Black Lives Matter protests
Speaker 1: with a gun with the intent to kill. I don't
Speaker 1: care what the verdict is, that's the facts of the situation.
Speaker 1: And for Joe Biden to put out his statement and
Speaker 1: say the dairy system works and we need to respect
Speaker 1: the law. Is him exciting so much white privilege from
Speaker 1: what his experiences being a white man in America. It
Speaker 1: was just it was highly insensitive and very disrespectful at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, and Kamala Harris came out
Speaker 1: and she actually made a statement that said, you know,
Speaker 1: this is just a testament that there's still more work
Speaker 1: than needs to be done. Absolutely agree with her, But
Speaker 1: the problem is, I think she's remained silent on so
Speaker 1: many pertinent issues that's happening in America right now. Her
Speaker 1: opinion at this point in time is almost being um,
Speaker 1: it's not being respected by the American people on Moore
Speaker 1: and that's the problem. So I think she's going to
Speaker 1: have a situation of being guilty, guilty by association if
Speaker 1: she ever chuses to run for office and become the president. Uh,
Speaker 1: he wants to run for president of Guy's stay. So
Speaker 1: that's my issue. And I agree with everything what you're saying,
Speaker 1: Flaim Joe Biden forgot the black people got him elected.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with Yeah, he would not have one
Speaker 1: without us, and we came out in droves and he
Speaker 1: would and they have changed the the voting rights laws
Speaker 1: in so many different states now, So even if we
Speaker 1: wanted him to win again, we probably we are probably
Speaker 1: not even in position to to help him win because
Speaker 1: they've changed so many laws and he has done nothing
Speaker 1: about And I'm sorry, I'm very disappointed with President Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: I am I need him to fix this. And on
Speaker 1: top of that is his ratings have gone down I
Speaker 1: think almost now. He's in the decline. And honestly, transparently,
Speaker 1: I got a little bit of issue with my sore
Speaker 1: war too because what they did around the government race
Speaker 1: in West Virginia. I don't agree with their strategy. There
Speaker 1: was a young black woman that was a candidate that
Speaker 1: the community wanted to elect. But once again, the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party went with strategy over listening to what the people
Speaker 1: actually wanted. They lost that race, and that's what's gonna
Speaker 1: continue to happen. They're just the Republican Party doesn't listen
Speaker 1: to us. They have their own agenda and they're all
Speaker 1: on the same page. We know that that agenda is
Speaker 1: white supremacy. You know that Democrats don't listen to what
Speaker 1: people want, and that's that's because they don't listen to
Speaker 1: each other. Are they too busy in fighting, too busy,
Speaker 1: too much in fighting. Yeah, so with with with him
Speaker 1: speaking on this whole the murderer ridden house, because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say exactly what it is. He was a murderer
Speaker 1: and he is a murderer. I don't care what they
Speaker 1: didn't charge him with. He can't get away from the
Speaker 1: fact that he did kill two people and shout a
Speaker 1: third person. Um, you know, Lauren, I'm not the I'm
Speaker 1: not the on the I told you so, I told
Speaker 1: you so. But when he did them fake crocodile tears
Speaker 1: and after they had already given him an acting class
Speaker 1: and woo, even though it's still not a tear with ship,
Speaker 1: part of me knew that he was going to get off.
Speaker 1: And watching who the judge was in this case, Rob Schroeder,
Speaker 1: who had been the judge and Kenosha Wisconsin in that
Speaker 1: corps room for so many years and in the position,
Speaker 1: and I watched him clearly during the trial lose his
Speaker 1: train of thought three times that I saw three times,
Speaker 1: and while trying to reprimand the prosecutor publicly. This was
Speaker 1: the first time he had allowed cameras in his courtroom,
Speaker 1: so he had an audience to play for and I
Speaker 1: watched him lose his train of thought and then get
Speaker 1: frustrated with the prosecutor because he lost his train of thought.
Speaker 1: I knew then it was like he was the great
Speaker 1: uncle of this, of this killer. He was like the
Speaker 1: he had a hand in this. So I don't know
Speaker 1: whether it's for book sales afterwards, if he's going to
Speaker 1: write a book, if he's going to retire off of this.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. But there were so
Speaker 1: many the that the deck was stacked already for ridden
Speaker 1: house to get off. In my opinion, this is my opinion,
Speaker 1: this is my this is our show. So I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I personally think that they need
Speaker 1: to go back into that judge's history of all the
Speaker 1: cases that he had because I just didn't think that
Speaker 1: he was fair, that this is what I saw. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll say this, um, I don't think at least I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised. I'm not gonna speak for you know, the masses,
Speaker 1: but I was not surprised about this verdict. And I
Speaker 1: would say a couple of things there was the defense
Speaker 1: did a great job of like putting out different misperceptions
Speaker 1: and misinformation just about the case. In general. So I
Speaker 1: feel like the public wasn't. They didn't really we didn't
Speaker 1: really have all the facts even down to it wasn't
Speaker 1: until you know, right before the verdict came down that
Speaker 1: I knew that Kyle Rittenhouse didn't take this, for instance,
Speaker 1: a R fifteen across state lines. There were just a
Speaker 1: lot of information. I feel like that was, you know,
Speaker 1: revolving around this case to start with. That was kind
Speaker 1: of gave a plus to the defense. In addition to that,
Speaker 1: the judge was it a murder trial. They were singing
Speaker 1: in the courtroom and everything else. The judge made it
Speaker 1: very clear that he didn't support the crimes that were
Speaker 1: or the charges that were against Kyle Rittenhouse, because the
Speaker 1: one charge that was beyond with like beyond a doubt
Speaker 1: was that was he a minor with an a R fifteen.
Speaker 1: He dismissed that charge. That was the one charge if
Speaker 1: you were going to get him on anything, it was,
Speaker 1: it was going to be that charge. He dismissed it.
Speaker 1: So there was no way that you could just convict
Speaker 1: Kyle beyond a reasonable doubt. He set it up so
Speaker 1: that way. It didn't work that way. And to your
Speaker 1: point about the judge, I'm sure his pockets are aligned
Speaker 1: with somebody. He might have stock in the prison system,
Speaker 1: he might have somebody paying for contributions to a possible campaign.
Speaker 1: There's always something happening behind the scenes when it comes
Speaker 1: to these white men that are in these lifetime appointments
Speaker 1: that have no business being there. I'm sure there's more
Speaker 1: to the story. But is he going to be invested?
Speaker 1: Probably not. That is a clear reminder of what our
Speaker 1: candidate here on laughing, Alison Lewis would talk about voting
Speaker 1: at state and local government levels because it makes a difference.
Speaker 1: This man has been in this position for such a
Speaker 1: long time. It is you know Lauren and didn't look
Speaker 1: Lauren when with what happened with that casey outcome of
Speaker 1: that case, and even though cal Rittenhouse didn't kill anybody
Speaker 1: that looks like us, Now, look what happened. A man
Speaker 1: came barreling through a damn parade in his vein yesterday,
Speaker 1: just driving through, just running over kids, and everybody was
Speaker 1: that retaliation And this was a brother come to find
Speaker 1: out that he was a black man. So do you
Speaker 1: think that that do you think that that trial of
Speaker 1: Rittenhouse getting not guilty on all accounts has opened up
Speaker 1: a Pandora's box of we can do what the hell
Speaker 1: we want to do and there will be no consequences
Speaker 1: behind it. Well, what's different? How is that different than
Speaker 1: what's happened since America started? White people have been getting
Speaker 1: away with crimes since the beginning of time in this country.
Speaker 1: That's nothing different. Yeah, if you think about it from
Speaker 1: a perspective of if you compare Kyle Rittenhouse to a
Speaker 1: tray Von Martin, if we compare Kyle Rittenhouse to an
Speaker 1: Elijah McClane whose family also just want a fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollars settlement, very happy for them. But if we compare
Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse to all of these unarmed black boys that
Speaker 1: have been shot and killed. Hell, Dylan Rooks asked, is
Speaker 1: still alive and kicking. Yes, he might be in jail,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been placed on death row. And he
Speaker 1: killed nine black people after they prayed with him for
Speaker 1: forty minutes. Thank you. I'm just saying the system is
Speaker 1: very clear on who it supports and who it doesn't care.
Speaker 1: And act were shocked and surprised about this verdict is
Speaker 1: very baffling to me. I don't understand how anybody in
Speaker 1: their right minds had really think that power Writtenhouse is
Speaker 1: gonna get off based on what you saw with his
Speaker 1: murder trial. Kyle Riddenhouse got out because of his his
Speaker 1: skin color, the jewdge and his bad acting. Because that
Speaker 1: was some bad acting, even when he turned to look
Speaker 1: at the Jewish for approval to make sure am I
Speaker 1: doing it right? Because there was not one tier Long good.
Speaker 1: It was as bad as me auditioning for that. Listen
Speaker 1: to me, child, You know that I was terrible. He
Speaker 1: was worse than me, but he got Look he got
Speaker 1: the pod. It's very It's it's scary, though, Long because
Speaker 1: I have a I have a son the same age
Speaker 1: as Rittenhouse, you know, And if the tables were turned
Speaker 1: and my black son was in the same position, I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that my even with money turned
Speaker 1: in with the same attorney, the oltcome would not have
Speaker 1: been the same. He would have First of all, your
Speaker 1: son would be under the jail. Honestly, he wouldn't have
Speaker 1: made it probably to being arrested. They would have shot him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can, I honestly believe that. Yeah, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: have happened. So let's not I'm just saying, and I
Speaker 1: hate the way they tried to flip it. I hate
Speaker 1: the way they tried to flip it. Lorn to go
Speaker 1: into you know, why are they going to the past
Speaker 1: of the victims, you know, you want to go into
Speaker 1: the victims pad where he was this and he was
Speaker 1: a Kyle Riddenhouse didn't know who those people were when
Speaker 1: he shot them. He didn't know their past, he didn't
Speaker 1: know their history. And this is why I say two
Speaker 1: in terms of the narratives that were built around this
Speaker 1: case for for public, like, you know, they painted this
Speaker 1: narrative that two of the people that uh, Kyle Riddenhouse
Speaker 1: killed were criminals, one of them was a sex offender.
Speaker 1: Come to find out that was not true. There were
Speaker 1: a lot of narratives that were utilized for this case
Speaker 1: that ended up being you know, pluses for the defense.
Speaker 1: There were, and a lot of the truth didn't come
Speaker 1: out until after the verdicts were read for him. So
Speaker 1: the defense did their job in some ways. The media
Speaker 1: probably helped the defense. Little did they know, because it
Speaker 1: seems like the defense in a very strategic way, we're
Speaker 1: able to utilize, you know, the media to their advantage.
Speaker 1: So it's the fact of life, you know. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if you want to bring in some other playmate,
Speaker 1: and of course I do you you know, I want
Speaker 1: to bring somebody in to talk with my low Hogan.
Speaker 1: You know they want to see they you know they
Speaker 1: want to see lo Vi. I'm gonna bring in sisters.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing in sister Soldier baby herself, Dawn, Hey Don,
Speaker 1: Hey am I Lauren? How are you just gonna glad
Speaker 1: you're back? Right? I'm glad you're back as well. I
Speaker 1: want to know and I didn't hear this, Lauren, you
Speaker 1: might want to know. You might know what was Kyle
Speaker 1: rittenhouse um dismissed with our prejudice? Can they try him again?
Speaker 1: Or can I try him again? I don't think that
Speaker 1: they can try him again. I gotta look it up,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure that they can't try him again.
Speaker 1: So which means that they well, of course, the prosecutor
Speaker 1: can appeal, right, they can appeal to decision. Can you know?
Speaker 1: I think that the prosecution has to bring up new
Speaker 1: charges or find new evidence if they wanted to charge
Speaker 1: him with something else? Okay, do you think they can
Speaker 1: get him on a fair charge? From traveling state to state? What? What? What? Uh? Is?
Speaker 1: What a weapon? I don't think that the FEDS are
Speaker 1: going to or the d o J. I should say,
Speaker 1: that's family. That's because the president is going to go
Speaker 1: after him. Yeah, the president surely. You know, he didn't
Speaker 1: make a stance about it. You know he did he
Speaker 1: said the jury system works. Yeah, but remember this is
Speaker 1: the same president that we have that was very instrumental
Speaker 1: on the nineties crime Ville. I'm just exactly exactly. So
Speaker 1: that's that's very true, very very true. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Flame, no, no, no, you you're making me reevaluate
Speaker 1: who who I voted for doing and and and I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that the reason I was because
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was never my pick either. But I was
Speaker 1: so gung hole on Biden because I just didn't want
Speaker 1: any more Trump. And that's what it was. I allowed,
Speaker 1: I allowed that that bad pass to not to to
Speaker 1: to smoke screen who I was voting for for real,
Speaker 1: because there was no other option. Mm hmm, well, I'll
Speaker 1: say that I too. I would never I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say that I would go back and change my vote.
Speaker 1: I would never vote for Trump. Yeah, Biden was definitely
Speaker 1: the letter of the two evils. But Biden was also
Speaker 1: not my pick either. I wanted Elizabeth Warren to be president,
Speaker 1: but here we are, and I mean, it's unfortunate that
Speaker 1: we see this and I'm I'm so upset that there
Speaker 1: is a black woman that's it's hatched to Joe Biden. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, I know Pamala was also responsible for putting
Speaker 1: a lot of black folks in jail and California too,
Speaker 1: So let's you can call it spade to spade here
Speaker 1: and be honest. I'm sorry, Lauren, Is she black today
Speaker 1: or she a woman of color today? Call it? Call
Speaker 1: it she black when she when she needs the a
Speaker 1: k A s to step for the pearls in the chucks.
Speaker 1: Is she black today? Or she a woman of color?
Speaker 1: I'm just as well. I'll say this. I don't I
Speaker 1: personally don't feel like we should split that hare. And
Speaker 1: I only say this because I look at somebody's actions,
Speaker 1: not what's said. And for the inauguration. Say what you
Speaker 1: want about her, and she has two flaws because her
Speaker 1: track been a little messed up, absolutely, but she still
Speaker 1: had the drum line from Howard Universities show up on
Speaker 1: national television and get their recognition at her inauguration when
Speaker 1: she was inducted to be the vice president. So her
Speaker 1: actions are show me that she supports black excellence. So
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take that away from her. Okay. So
Speaker 1: but I don't think I don't feel like here because Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand, and I'm but I'm a split because this
Speaker 1: is an opinion on that one because as a prosecutor.
Speaker 1: She I have lawyers in my family and they told
Speaker 1: me last week, Oh, he's good and off and I'm thinking, oh, no,
Speaker 1: it's not. They said, yes he is, and I was
Speaker 1: like wow. You know, but like we've been saying all along,
Speaker 1: we have to start at the local level of voting.
Speaker 1: We need to start going to city council meetings and
Speaker 1: and county meetings to see what they're doing, how they're
Speaker 1: representing us. It's time for that good old boys system
Speaker 1: to be dead. See when you they start, they're raising
Speaker 1: them young. When somebody is a lawyer, he becomes the
Speaker 1: d a, then he becomes the judge. Then he puts
Speaker 1: his son and our daughter, our nephew. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: their They land themselves up to be empowered. We don't.
Speaker 1: We don't do that, and that's why they can stay
Speaker 1: in power. And make the decisions against us. But we
Speaker 1: gotta start at the local level. Vote what bill is out. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll say this too, don I think that we if
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at that we have to do. I
Speaker 1: agree that we should all vote absolutely, but I'll just
Speaker 1: say this. White people have done a damn good job
Speaker 1: of making sure that we lack educational resources and lack
Speaker 1: understanding of how government works. They've done a damn good job.
Speaker 1: And even if you look at something like generational wealth.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of something like the Tulsa race riots that
Speaker 1: happened in night. There was a gentleman who had the largest,
Speaker 1: most successful hotel that would put Marryat's anything, and son
Speaker 1: was gonna we we knew what generational wealth. But white
Speaker 1: people have done such a great job of eracing history
Speaker 1: and changing narratives that us today don't know our history
Speaker 1: and what we were capable of doing. We only think
Speaker 1: that we're able to do poverty level type of stuff now.
Speaker 1: And because we allowed them, because all them colors they
Speaker 1: got in the Senate and and and come in the House,
Speaker 1: they can if they wouldn't so worried about getting their
Speaker 1: pockets line, they can make a huge impact because we
Speaker 1: all know we're very strong in numbers. We are very
Speaker 1: strong in numbers. But because they're so, they don't want
Speaker 1: to train the next person to take their place. They
Speaker 1: don't want to stick up for us. So why are
Speaker 1: you still there? You are useless as a kid on
Speaker 1: the ball hall, why are you still there? You're useless.
Speaker 1: Every one of them in Congress, anyone that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be representing us, You're useless because you're not doing anything.
Speaker 1: So that's why the white people can still get away with.
Speaker 1: They're getting away from and they've created an environment for
Speaker 1: us where we're crabs in the barrel, where we're always
Speaker 1: fighting each other. We have to get the root cause
Speaker 1: is a thing. I feel like some people have the
Speaker 1: perspective of I'm just looking for more of an aerial view.
Speaker 1: If this is what's happening now, we gotta look at
Speaker 1: root causes of things in order for us to actually
Speaker 1: move forward. And I think that's sometimes the problem that
Speaker 1: we have as a community. We just don't know what
Speaker 1: happened in our history. But but but learn at what
Speaker 1: at what point do we stop? What? At what point
Speaker 1: do we need to get okay? Now? Look, we need
Speaker 1: to just stop this. At what point do we get
Speaker 1: together because we can. This is the reason why they
Speaker 1: don't want us in nothing, because but to entertain them,
Speaker 1: you know, do do medio or work of stuff like
Speaker 1: like we used to do that our grandparents and great grandparents,
Speaker 1: you know, used to. That's why they want us that
Speaker 1: because they don't they know how smart we are and
Speaker 1: they can't get nothing them without us. So at what
Speaker 1: point when black people we're gonna we got to say,
Speaker 1: look now a damn it, enough is enough? We need agree,
Speaker 1: you know, I just I'm just asking and you know,
Speaker 1: just you know, just asking when we are we're gonna stop?
Speaker 1: What are we gonna stop it? Well, honestly, that's a
Speaker 1: decision as a community that we need to make because
Speaker 1: like you said, we actually we can. But we unite
Speaker 1: and we become a force. We are one hell of
Speaker 1: a force to recogliate. But it kill we as a
Speaker 1: community can get on the same page. Nothing's gonna get done.
Speaker 1: Because let's look at the whole Black Lives Matter movement.
Speaker 1: The Black Lives Man movement is a very positive movement,
Speaker 1: and in the midst of the Black Lives Matter movement,
Speaker 1: we had all this sad swiping with the trans lass
Speaker 1: movement in the Gator. But now they all did silence.
Speaker 1: We just saw an outcoming. I'm waiting for this amount
Speaker 1: Aubrey outcome. I'm waiting for the outcome of the amount
Speaker 1: Aubrey because every I don't know the outcome of this
Speaker 1: one before. When I see the prosecutors doing a pretty
Speaker 1: good job, and I think that, I think that the
Speaker 1: Sun pretty much openly admitted to yeah, we we we
Speaker 1: funked up. The Sun kind of just like said it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that because what I heard and what we saw
Speaker 1: don't mean what they're going to see and here. So
Speaker 1: you know, everybody is so quiet now. I hate the
Speaker 1: in fighting that we have as a Black community, but
Speaker 1: the divide and conqueror has always worked, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: keep like like Lawrence has splitting hairs, they keep dividing
Speaker 1: us what we can't get together on one accord. You know,
Speaker 1: we should be all together as black people right now,
Speaker 1: even though we have trans black people and gay black
Speaker 1: people and this kind of black people right now. The
Speaker 1: injustices against black people has nothing to do with any
Speaker 1: of this sad, sad stuff. But they all quiet right
Speaker 1: now until it's something that they want to jump in on,
Speaker 1: too petty to piggyback off of. I think it's so
Speaker 1: unfortunate that a bill was signed last win their thirds
Speaker 1: to protect the Asians again and still nothing for us,
Speaker 1: and still nothing for us. Asians are model immigrants and
Speaker 1: they are the poster children of what potential immigrants and
Speaker 1: people in this country can be. We we know that
Speaker 1: that's not surprised on but no, no, I'm not. But
Speaker 1: I'm the sarcasm. Okay, but you know how they just
Speaker 1: so caariously uh to slip that in last week while
Speaker 1: I'm making a big fan fair about it. They made
Speaker 1: a big fan fail about the infrastructure. And that's great,
Speaker 1: but what about who puts your ass in office? That's
Speaker 1: my point. So I agree with you and Lauren, you
Speaker 1: you may not agree with me on this one, Lauren,
Speaker 1: because when I say this, I think about you all
Speaker 1: the time. When we have to vote again in two
Speaker 1: and four, I feel that black people are gonna do
Speaker 1: one or two things. We've probably a vote on the
Speaker 1: on the local estate level, but we're gonna either not
Speaker 1: vote for the fads or for those who can vote
Speaker 1: Republicans for those who can't. Because see I can't because
Speaker 1: my money don't work for me. I still gotta work
Speaker 1: for my money. So those those that they say money
Speaker 1: work for them, I don't know about that one doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna switch my party right now. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you black people gonna vote. I think why
Speaker 1: I hope I wanted to say this. I hope that
Speaker 1: we all still go out and vote, because that's if
Speaker 1: we've learned anything over the almost what year maybe the
Speaker 1: Siden's been in office, is that white people don't want
Speaker 1: to still vote. They have created all these voting bills
Speaker 1: from Georgia to Texas trying to make it not vote
Speaker 1: because they know how important our vote is. So anybody
Speaker 1: that's talking about I'm gonna hold my vote in this
Speaker 1: next election, please don't do that. You know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: vote in the in the local and the state. We'll
Speaker 1: vote in the local in the state is federal. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna vote vote down the ticket. And I this
Speaker 1: is what I agree happening, is that people are going
Speaker 1: to stop looking at it from a party perspective and
Speaker 1: people are just going to vote for who they want
Speaker 1: to vote for. Because I'm almost on the edge of
Speaker 1: doing that myself. It's just saying who is the better candidate,
Speaker 1: who actually has my better Christian and stop looking at Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a Democrat versus a Republican, because that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna have to end the past. Well, I don't not personally,
Speaker 1: I don't never just hit one, but I go through
Speaker 1: each person, you know, and try to you know, I
Speaker 1: try to read on each person before I go and vote,
Speaker 1: to know who I'm voting for, even though they running unimposed.
Speaker 1: Because if you need something from someone, something you know
Speaker 1: in the community, you know who to go to. But
Speaker 1: I don't know this is this is not looking good.
Speaker 1: This is not looking good. Well, I think that we're
Speaker 1: probably gonna lose a lot of the majorities. I've seen.
Speaker 1: I've seen so many different polls. You know, Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 1: took a poll and said that the Republicans are not
Speaker 1: doing well, you know, for the upcoming election in two
Speaker 1: and I've seen other polls that have said the complete opposite.
Speaker 1: We're only gonna know once the actual Vulture tallies, then
Speaker 1: we get we get past the cheating scandal. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll just say this because I kind of want to
Speaker 1: circle back to to what Dahn was saying in terms of,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of black people not getting
Speaker 1: on one accord and we're fighting each other. I just
Speaker 1: want us to sometimes take a moment and realize that
Speaker 1: there's been so much done in this country to make
Speaker 1: sure that we remain what society wants us to be
Speaker 1: as a suppressed group of people. They have done a lot.
Speaker 1: Anytime we've gotten a leader that could really organize and
Speaker 1: rally people, Martin, Mr King, Malcolm x Um, Fred Hampton,
Speaker 1: anybody that's really been able to organize andalvanize Black people
Speaker 1: to become one afford and help. Fred Hampton was creating
Speaker 1: rainbow coalitions. What did the government do? They killed everybody.
Speaker 1: So I also want us to understand sometimes that as
Speaker 1: a people, I think we're really tired. We've been fighting
Speaker 1: for a long time, a very very long time. So
Speaker 1: instead of us coming from a perspective of wanting to
Speaker 1: be little and talk badly about our community, please understand
Speaker 1: all the trauma that we've been through for a long time,
Speaker 1: and sometimes we may need a break. We may not
Speaker 1: be on one accoord, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: as long as we're always working towards something. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a little bit of progress for us. But
Speaker 1: let's not be so quick to be little us, because
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. What you said at last point,
Speaker 1: A lot of us is tired. I'll tire you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the black community is tired. We've been fighting for a
Speaker 1: long time. It's through four hundred years. We approaching on
Speaker 1: five hundry for a long time. Yeah, yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: it's just unfortunate. It's just it's it's exhausting. It's exhausting.
Speaker 1: W P at his best, at his best. I need
Speaker 1: to get a shot. This is w P at his best.
Speaker 1: What thank you ms Don for coming in and giving
Speaker 1: us to Then we're gonna bring Alison in so asking
Speaker 1: hit us with some knowledge. Thank you Don. Ye'll make
Speaker 1: sure you'll followed down at Texas Star forty two. Jesus,
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, What we're gonna do, lower, what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do, what else gonna do? Uh? Hey, how
Speaker 1: are you hello? Alison? Hello? Everybody? So I know we
Speaker 1: were talking about um the trial and uh white privilege
Speaker 1: at his best again, and I did uh hear about
Speaker 1: you know, black people really coming together and really making
Speaker 1: some moves, and to go back to the Kyle Rittenhouse case,
Speaker 1: it's the good boy system. The judge. The judge was
Speaker 1: the friend the defendant, the defense attorney was a friend.
Speaker 1: To prosecute that they were all friends. And what we
Speaker 1: need to do is black, we need to encourage our
Speaker 1: children to become lawyers. And so therefore, once they become lawyers,
Speaker 1: they begin to run for these seats. Because that judge
Speaker 1: ran on a post four times, four times. That just
Speaker 1: don't have any opponent. And so we got to stop
Speaker 1: allowing these people to just stay in the sea, stay
Speaker 1: in the seat, and stay in these seats. We have
Speaker 1: to get up and run. No you may not win
Speaker 1: the first time. No you may not win, but at
Speaker 1: least you're out there. At least you're putting your ideas
Speaker 1: out there and people know, hey, these people are on
Speaker 1: our tails. So we have to have an understanding of
Speaker 1: where are we going with this? And that's the issue
Speaker 1: with the Democrats. We don't know what we want. We
Speaker 1: don't know Harley, where we're going, and we don't like
Speaker 1: to listen to each other. We have to do that.
Speaker 1: We have to be leaders that listen and execute. That
Speaker 1: is what It's about listening and executing for the people
Speaker 1: in which you're choosing to serve. Period. That's why I
Speaker 1: love my Nancy. You know, That's why I'm Team Nancy.
Speaker 1: Don't say loring, you bet not said we're listen and
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Nancy Pelosi has done a lot
Speaker 1: of things that I've given her some brownie points for it.
Speaker 1: But as the majority leader in the House, I'll be
Speaker 1: looking at her sideway sometimes. You brought it up. Why
Speaker 1: hasn't the anti lynching bill passed through the House yet? Why?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I get you love Nancy. I like
Speaker 1: Nancy too. I think she's done a lot of things
Speaker 1: that have you know, have been great. Has even given
Speaker 1: me a chuckle when she ripped up some State of
Speaker 1: the Union speech. But if we if you're gonna hold
Speaker 1: Joe Biden accountable, play, you need to hold Pelosi account
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, devastated. I'm just saying, if we're gonna
Speaker 1: hold people accountable, she has, she has a nice amount
Speaker 1: of it's probably gonna run out. She could have utilized
Speaker 1: that Howard to make real change. She got that Asian
Speaker 1: bill passed. She sure. I'm just saying, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: give me, look, give me. We we I mean we
Speaker 1: we we we We were at a point where we
Speaker 1: could The thing about it, this and how it's gonna
Speaker 1: be looked at in two is this we had and
Speaker 1: we didn't. We had the power and we didn't use it.
Speaker 1: And that that is where a lot of people You're
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of lots of this not's not
Speaker 1: gonna vote at all. And it's sad. It's sad that
Speaker 1: even even here that you know to even have to
Speaker 1: say that. But that's so what's gonna be the reality?
Speaker 1: That is gonna be the reality because you're not gonna
Speaker 1: convince these young people anymore. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's young people. I think young people,
Speaker 1: especially this newer generation that's all about diversity and inclusion
Speaker 1: and identifying what you truly feel in your spirit. I
Speaker 1: think those millennials are gonna be the ones that vote.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be people more some in my age than
Speaker 1: a graphic like the year old. Those are going to
Speaker 1: be So we're not young people are so we're not
Speaker 1: young people. I just said young people. I said my
Speaker 1: age demo. I just said we were I'm just saying
Speaker 1: those those kids that are seventeen, about to turn eighteen
Speaker 1: and between those eighteen one year old those are gonna
Speaker 1: be the folks that actually come out and vote. They
Speaker 1: were the biggest voting demographic in the last election. It
Speaker 1: was them if they beat the baby boomers, right, So
Speaker 1: I don't think it's them. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: our age group that's like, nah, I don't really need
Speaker 1: to vote. I'm not worried about this. It's gonna be them,
Speaker 1: and that's the staff part. But I feel like birds
Speaker 1: have energy. I am I very much solf believe that.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to put that negativity out there.
Speaker 1: I hope that's not the case. I hope everybody go.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you both, ladies a question with this,
Speaker 1: with the outcome of a mad Aubrey, if these men
Speaker 1: are convicted, I don't even know what the charges would
Speaker 1: actually be because that's Runswick, Georgia. Um do you think that, Um?
Speaker 1: If they get off, let me say this, If they
Speaker 1: do you think that there will be civil unrest in
Speaker 1: the street. Yeah. If a mad Verry is Travesic Michael Roddy,
Speaker 1: whatever his name is. If all three of those men
Speaker 1: are acquitted. It's gonna be hell, it's gonna be it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem, it's gonna be a whole. But
Speaker 1: but do you think, but do you think that the
Speaker 1: judge shoulder and that that jewelry getting letting ridden house
Speaker 1: alf will make people afraid to protest in the streets
Speaker 1: because down they will feel like, oh, other people can
Speaker 1: come from the side and protest with their guns. Or
Speaker 1: do you think that they will go out and protest
Speaker 1: now with their own weapons as well. They they're going
Speaker 1: out with their own weapons real and won't give a dam.
Speaker 1: And it's not gonna affect that they were protesting. Protests
Speaker 1: happen right after the verdict came down, when there were
Speaker 1: plenty of protests happening around the globe. So I don't
Speaker 1: think that's gonna affect it. What I think is going
Speaker 1: to be different now people are gonna feel like they
Speaker 1: haven't right to bear arms. People donna start shooting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that that is And you know, Lowen, as much
Speaker 1: as I talked my gangs to talk, that's my fear
Speaker 1: because do you know how many innocent people will probably
Speaker 1: probably be killed because of that that philosophy there, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna shoot you back. I'm gonna shoot you as opposed
Speaker 1: that we want to do a pieceful protests. We want
Speaker 1: to come out there and protests with no weapons. But
Speaker 1: now you can give a green light to say somebody
Speaker 1: can drive illegally under age from another state for two
Speaker 1: hours and come and say, oh, I'm protecting the business
Speaker 1: that you had no vested interest in. You say you
Speaker 1: were a damn junior e m T. You didn't even
Speaker 1: have a damn first aid kid, you had some golls.
Speaker 1: What were you gonna do? Blow they damn nose. I
Speaker 1: am mortified to think of what this country is headed
Speaker 1: to the way this country is headed, I'm gonna pack
Speaker 1: my ship. Let me just say it, Well, since you
Speaker 1: already kind of opened the door, I guess we can
Speaker 1: kind of fully set by fully into this mod Arebury kid.
Speaker 1: I will just say this. I will say this the
Speaker 1: testimony that I've seen, and I will say that I
Speaker 1: think the prosecutor is doing a great job, especially with
Speaker 1: her name Linda, uh what is her name, and about
Speaker 1: the facts getting she basically got trapped Michael to admit
Speaker 1: that he was just running that's all he's doing. I
Speaker 1: think that the level of overt racism that the defense
Speaker 1: is exuding in this particular case. It's sad to say
Speaker 1: that this baffling, but I am baffled this woman that
Speaker 1: one of the defense attorneys today talked about the mod
Speaker 1: Aubury's told being long and dirty and dirty yep, how
Speaker 1: dare you, and wanted to create a narrative about it.
Speaker 1: He's going into trespassing into one house. There's young you
Speaker 1: young women that live in houses, next thing, and keeping
Speaker 1: go in there. Way to happ in the birth of
Speaker 1: a nation context, Okay, I think that if racism is
Speaker 1: the reason why these men are acquitted, I hate that
Speaker 1: they always use the narrative of black men. I hope so, Alison,
Speaker 1: from what I see from the outside looking at it
Speaker 1: looks like that it's said, I just have no faith
Speaker 1: in the judicial system right now. But I hate that
Speaker 1: they use that narrative that all black men want to
Speaker 1: or they want to rape white women. They want to
Speaker 1: rape white But you don't need to rape for white woman.
Speaker 1: You just need to be a professional athlete. You don't
Speaker 1: need the rape, and white woman she's gonna give it
Speaker 1: to you. Ship m And just like they just had
Speaker 1: the case, they just had the case where the guy,
Speaker 1: the black athlete beat the white girl, beat the ass too,
Speaker 1: But then they ain't talking about the white athlete that
Speaker 1: beat the black girl. Or what about the yard sink
Speaker 1: that raped someone and got off on it. Yeah they yeah,
Speaker 1: he just got off off seventeen year old. Well no,
Speaker 1: she was re raped like four of them, right, four girls? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he was eighteen and got it, got to
Speaker 1: quit it, he got probation. So I'm just saying, I
Speaker 1: I know there's only like, I think, like one black
Speaker 1: person who is your I do. I will say that
Speaker 1: this judge in the mod are Very case, he's been
Speaker 1: doing a good job because the defense has tried to
Speaker 1: talk about Jesse Jackson being in the room and Al
Speaker 1: Sharpton in the defensive sgroom and we don't need any
Speaker 1: more black pastors. The judge has been very fair so
Speaker 1: far in terms of what is and isn't that all
Speaker 1: we really want? Lauren? Isn't that what we really want
Speaker 1: as black people in this kind We just wanted fair equality.
Speaker 1: That isn't that all we've been fighting for for four
Speaker 1: hundred plus years? We have. I'm but I'm still on defense.
Speaker 1: I'm still on the on the banner for we have
Speaker 1: there are a lot of black attorneys out there. Listen,
Speaker 1: we can't be a lawyers forever. Listen, Let's let's move
Speaker 1: on up. Let's become the state attorney. Let's become the
Speaker 1: district attorney. Let's let's let's become the attorney general. Let's
Speaker 1: become the judge. Right, let's do it. You have to
Speaker 1: put yourself out there in order. If we don't have
Speaker 1: people around the table understand our issues, we won't have
Speaker 1: solutions to these problems. And if you have a slew
Speaker 1: of black people as judges, then you have and you
Speaker 1: have them as prosecutors, and you have them as defense attorneys.
Speaker 1: Come on, some things, some things will change. And and
Speaker 1: that is just my belief. You know, maybe you can
Speaker 1: cause people can call me crazy, but I just believe
Speaker 1: if you have a lot of us lauring that by
Speaker 1: our age that put our feet to the fire and
Speaker 1: start running for these positions and applying for these positions
Speaker 1: and getting in these positions, some things will change. I
Speaker 1: agree with you, Alliston. I just think that it's unfortunate too,
Speaker 1: because even trying to get there, the deck is stacked
Speaker 1: against you, like playing with saying, because you know, how
Speaker 1: are we how are we these young you know, how
Speaker 1: are these young folks gonna pay for law school? They
Speaker 1: gotta take out all these loans they got. We're putting
Speaker 1: people in debt. It's just it's a process of we're
Speaker 1: just gonna have to really figure out how to help
Speaker 1: us something we're gonna be able to do. Because even
Speaker 1: to get our people to these positions where they can
Speaker 1: really make these decisions in the you know, government and
Speaker 1: you know, in these lawyers places or spaces, it's gonna
Speaker 1: take a lot, you know, you know what it's gonna take.
Speaker 1: It who y'all, y'all gonna like me for this, but
Speaker 1: other people ain't we need It's it's black women. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to give this, You don't want to
Speaker 1: bow down and kiss the feet of these black women.
Speaker 1: But black women, Stacey A. Rooms and so many others
Speaker 1: are the fucking backbone and the monster is that standing
Speaker 1: behind it and the giants that's making decisions, and you
Speaker 1: keep giving them a hard time, not because they're just black,
Speaker 1: but because they are women. That is so terrible about
Speaker 1: this country and the reason Stacy H. Stacy Abrams is
Speaker 1: not in Kamala Harris's position, it's not because she couldn't
Speaker 1: do the work or do the job even better. Is
Speaker 1: because of optics, and it's fucked up. You know, we
Speaker 1: were so visual. She don't look like what, she don't
Speaker 1: look like a president? Well what does the president look like?
Speaker 1: Did Trump look like a president? Honestly? Well, I'll just uh,
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that front. Plane. Uh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take it back black. As Machael Max said, black
Speaker 1: women are the most disrespective women in America. We know that,
Speaker 1: underappreciated and underappreciated. But you are right, Wes. We you know,
Speaker 1: bring people together. We do. But again, if and this
Speaker 1: goes on to the crabs and the barrel thing, if
Speaker 1: we can't get some of our own black men to
Speaker 1: respect us, you don't expect white women and white men
Speaker 1: to respect us because they look with Hillary. Look even
Speaker 1: at Hillary Hillary. A lot of them didn't like Hillary
Speaker 1: because they didn't like Hillary, but Hillary was They looked
Speaker 1: at Hillary as she's a woman. Hillary was also very corrupt,
Speaker 1: though she got a lot of just unexpected karma back
Speaker 1: on her. You know what I mean, But that's another conversation.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. I'm sorry. Hillary learned from a powerful black
Speaker 1: woman named Coretti Scott King ships better sidelines, stand by
Speaker 1: your man and shift the hell up. Black women still
Speaker 1: been getting Coverater was gangster. She ain't saying that she
Speaker 1: knew Martin was whoa papa was Rolling Stone. She just
Speaker 1: lay low and quiet. And you know, people follow superhand
Speaker 1: that I make that as a joke all the time,
Speaker 1: but that's the truth. So many people take from black women.
Speaker 1: So many people take from black the knowledge and the
Speaker 1: tenacity of black women, but then don't acknowledge and respect them.
Speaker 1: I am team black woman, I always have been. Y'all
Speaker 1: know that, and it bothers me. You know that we
Speaker 1: could be so much further along, even with black men
Speaker 1: at hearing and respecting black women when you're not in
Speaker 1: a position of power to do it, or you just
Speaker 1: don't want to do it, and there is a black
Speaker 1: woman that wants to do it, Acknowledge her, respect her,
Speaker 1: thank her, you know, but we don't. That's not what
Speaker 1: we're doing. That's not what we're doing. Yeah, well, thank you, Alison,
Speaker 1: my darling. Y'all make sure y'all fother us Alison Lewis,
Speaker 1: and Alison Lewis is very knowledgeble She's a black, she's
Speaker 1: a black. His story and honey, she can teach you
Speaker 1: some things about your history that you don't know Nathan about.
Speaker 1: So I got to make the request because something in
Speaker 1: the comments earlier about why people keep bringing up a K.
Speaker 1: So please bring in t T Jan to close us
Speaker 1: out because we're almost that time. I just got to
Speaker 1: hear my cores thoughts real quick. Speaking of which she
Speaker 1: comes in here today is my my conversary. I turned
Speaker 1: six today, So you've been at a KA for six years. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have good You don't look at day over five.
Speaker 1: You don't look at day over five. I don't even
Speaker 1: see it. I don't see where's J. Come in? Jan?
Speaker 1: Send me request because I don't see you. You You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not on my regular phone. I'm on my other phone. UM. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll just say this while we're waiting for TC Jan
Speaker 1: come on t J saying congratulations. I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you. UM. I don't know where we're going from here.
Speaker 1: I think that this trial is going to um be
Speaker 1: almost like the and I know some people I'll just
Speaker 1: say this, I know from people have an issue with
Speaker 1: Shaun King and some of his rhetoric and whatever. But
Speaker 1: I do like uh he he he puts the truth
Speaker 1: out there in a lot of ways. I feel, but
Speaker 1: I know some people have a problem with him. But
Speaker 1: he made a comparison today which makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: is that this case is almost um comparable to Emmett
Speaker 1: till And and in truth, it almost is the amount
Speaker 1: of every case. Yeah, when he said that, it really
Speaker 1: registered with me because if you think about it, edmet
Speaker 1: Tell was murdered by a group of white men. There
Speaker 1: was really no dispute. It is that these white men
Speaker 1: murdered this young black boy because simply of the way
Speaker 1: that he looked. It's the same situation that's AMoD Aubrey case.
Speaker 1: They murdered this black boy because they didn't like the
Speaker 1: way that he looks. And there's really a discussion around
Speaker 1: or was it justifiable that they murdered him because of
Speaker 1: the cooks. That's what it comes down to. Him. Hey
Speaker 1: you congratulations, and I missed you as well. Um, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you you know, it's hard for me to get
Speaker 1: sold on. Yeah, I'm up with the people. But every
Speaker 1: chance we get, we find a way to goot a
Speaker 1: black woman. Now, don't tell me you don't know that.
Speaker 1: Joe belongs to a lot of groups, but we never
Speaker 1: mentioned those groups. But every conversation about Karmela, we talk
Speaker 1: about her being an a he Hey, learn your history.
Speaker 1: We are the first minority sorority. If you think I'm
Speaker 1: apologized by having the graves and the money, I will not.
Speaker 1: And if they call me to give some more money,
Speaker 1: I will cut it out. Cut it out, cut it out.
Speaker 1: It's an ugly look, cut it out. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of Greek on this line. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of Malveris on this line. Why do we keep gutting
Speaker 1: out when it for our accomplishments. She did what she
Speaker 1: wanted to do. It ain't got nothing to do with
Speaker 1: her professional Now, she made some smart moves because her
Speaker 1: lines this insulated her. It plush. But don't get mad,
Speaker 1: get happy she but look, go to church, be a
Speaker 1: part of the church group, go to the same book club,
Speaker 1: be a proper be proud of your book club. But
Speaker 1: cut it out with gunning form the organizations we belonged to.
Speaker 1: You ain't saying nothing about Joe. Then we hold her
Speaker 1: to how you standard? Well, you know, because you need
Speaker 1: to go back to the cave. She can never believe
Speaker 1: a case we're always here for her. Well we agree
Speaker 1: with she says or not. I'm happy to have over
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand sore roars. Did you hear me? Sometimes
Speaker 1: I even extend myself because it's a sore grow in
Speaker 1: front of me. She don't know, I'm a sorrow. I
Speaker 1: see it all her part, and I said, going over.
Speaker 1: But what I have word is before I just go
Speaker 1: around saying yeah, I'm a a k A. I'm here
Speaker 1: to uplift any black wom space is a doubt that
Speaker 1: you ain't throwing hundre the but for what she pledshed
Speaker 1: in college, cut it out, and I just got to
Speaker 1: jump in here and say to thank you, T t Jan.
Speaker 1: I just think that it's unfortunate that to your point
Speaker 1: that when we were already disrespected, we've already adapted that enough.
Speaker 1: But we are not allowed to have any flaws, and
Speaker 1: it mistakes we are held to such a higher standard,
Speaker 1: especially being black women in this country in crazy that
Speaker 1: we're always going to be held to a higher standard.
Speaker 1: It's it's unfortunate, but at the same time, on the
Speaker 1: flip side of that, it's what makes us the best. Yes,
Speaker 1: yes it does. And any of my line sisters are
Speaker 1: in distress. For instance, I just went through a tragedy.
Speaker 1: My line sisters rallied around me. They didn't send me
Speaker 1: no flowers, they said, go decompressed. That a spot. We're
Speaker 1: gonna send you something that's actually like you feel better,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We rally around each other,
Speaker 1: We support each other, and that's the beauty of being
Speaker 1: black women from And if you don't want to play it,
Speaker 1: don't play it. There are other groups that will pull
Speaker 1: the best out of you. But quit knocking me for
Speaker 1: what I do. We're stop bringing up the fact that
Speaker 1: she's an a k A like it's a negative thing.
Speaker 1: It's not. No, it isn't no it is And if
Speaker 1: you don't want to plash, that's perfectly fine too. I've
Speaker 1: gotten no people with that because of a black woman
Speaker 1: calls me. It says that she needs me, that I'm
Speaker 1: going to step into do what I can't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I've never asked Allison if she was Greek. But I
Speaker 1: was there for Allison, not with lip service. And I
Speaker 1: didn't have to start every conversation. You know, I love
Speaker 1: my people. I got on the phone, I said, what
Speaker 1: can I do? I gotta I got a black outline
Speaker 1: in my office. I can make phone calls. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm about. What's y'all put your action on your mouth face.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Period. Who Yeah. So that's it
Speaker 1: for me for the rest. Thanksgiving for everybody, continue prayers.
Speaker 1: You know that that that's my pap. That that's that
Speaker 1: I'm on. You know, I'm on one to day. Leave
Speaker 1: my sorority alongue. But now I free. I knew we
Speaker 1: need to close out with you because I thought you
Speaker 1: in the comments. I said, well, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a great way to goose the show. I can't see.
Speaker 1: I can't see none of the comments. It keeps I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. Don't worry about it. You know it keeps happening.
Speaker 1: You know what, she need to go back and be
Speaker 1: with the case. This woman is a professional woman. Do
Speaker 1: you not believe that she belongs to a lot of
Speaker 1: professional groups along her profession? Why are you going back
Speaker 1: to college? She has those sisters? Well, and that's too
Speaker 1: also my point tc J. And when I said I
Speaker 1: don't like splitting that hair a woman of color versus
Speaker 1: her being black for that, I don't Because they say
Speaker 1: time to show support for the a k As for
Speaker 1: her alma mater being a historical black college. It's not
Speaker 1: number one like Spellman, but still right. She made sure
Speaker 1: that those examples of black excellence were allowed and proud
Speaker 1: on national television for everybody, for everyone, and it was
Speaker 1: a learning moment for everyone that it's really nothing about
Speaker 1: us past our community. It was a moment to educate yourself,
Speaker 1: not to be a found with it. Thank you, Thank you, Jane,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for for input. Appreciate you. Uh
Speaker 1: Jane just said the words, honey, she excuse me, she
Speaker 1: uh she um what we're learning or teaching or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know what she just said. I started coughing
Speaker 1: ahead of damn fit. But Lauren, I love when you
Speaker 1: ladies get the you sorority women, because I'm not a
Speaker 1: sorority sister. I didn't even go to college. I was.
Speaker 1: I went to the dorm, but I wasn't learn and
Speaker 1: I was teaching that was in my youth. Um. I
Speaker 1: love to see that the woman's empowerment because to me,
Speaker 1: if more young sisters and brothers actually saw women come together,
Speaker 1: Black women come together, strong, standing together, not all the
Speaker 1: housewives of the shows and the Bees and this and that,
Speaker 1: and the drinking wine and who got to design the
Speaker 1: shoes in the biggest house, but actually lifting each other.
Speaker 1: I think that's what will help us grow as a society.
Speaker 1: And people don't see that because that's not what society
Speaker 1: wants to see. Apparently, according to the media, they want
Speaker 1: to see the negativity. So when we get a chance
Speaker 1: to push out to positivity. To me, I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: quietly listening and smiling on the inside because I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: talk about it, and G T T J. And is
Speaker 1: my age and you are twenty five, and I see
Speaker 1: this sister love. That has to do with a mutual respect,
Speaker 1: because yet we are part of the same society. But
Speaker 1: we see each other. I see my my elder sister,
Speaker 1: and I see my baby's sister, and we're learning and
Speaker 1: teaching each other. That is what it's about. But I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm too old, Maybe I'm too old. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. I'll just say this and I'm not doing
Speaker 1: it to offend anybody. But if we look at examples
Speaker 1: and we just talk about people not caring about black women,
Speaker 1: we've already said, you know, black women as disrespected, but
Speaker 1: we have examples to back up these statements, if you
Speaker 1: look at in the media when Gabby Petito went missing, Oh,
Speaker 1: it was national coverage, national freaking newes is white woman
Speaker 1: has gone missing, she's young. This is crazy even in
Speaker 1: the trans community. I feel like, you know, some of
Speaker 1: you know, the trans commune is really getting some recognition
Speaker 1: right now with you know, everything that's happening. But the
Speaker 1: trans community is talking about how there are forty seven
Speaker 1: I think it's forty nine maybe now, how a trans
Speaker 1: women of color has been murdered. Well, let's look at
Speaker 1: it from this angle. In the past two years, there's
Speaker 1: over nineties six thousand young black women and girls that
Speaker 1: have gone missing. Ain't no national news stories about that
Speaker 1: because nobody cares. They know that is that? Is it
Speaker 1: an initial people who truly just don't care anymore. There's
Speaker 1: no comparison to the trauma, grief, and just lack of
Speaker 1: empathy that goes towards the young black women in this country.
Speaker 1: So cut it out, knock at the hell off. We
Speaker 1: have opportunities to celebrate each other. Let us do that.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yeah, stop taking it a negative thing.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you, I missed you, I missed me,
Speaker 1: but I missed you being part of the show and
Speaker 1: we know, we knew what was going on. We um,
Speaker 1: we're here for you. Lord. I hope you felt all
Speaker 1: the love and the prayers and the and the pushes
Speaker 1: and everybody just you know there by your side. Um.
Speaker 1: It's such a it's just it's just life. It's like
Speaker 1: and it is life. And I love that you are
Speaker 1: equipped for life because of that woman. Because of that woman,
Speaker 1: A lot of people are not built and equipped because
Speaker 1: their parents didn't equip them. So with with all that
Speaker 1: Miss Marshall was and who she is and was too
Speaker 1: so many different people, she equipped you. She she got
Speaker 1: you ready, which is so important for women to get
Speaker 1: their daughters, especially ready for life, because life is going
Speaker 1: to happen whether you wanted to or not, you know.
Speaker 1: And that same thing with fathers and sons. You have
Speaker 1: to equip your child to know that life is still
Speaker 1: going to happen. So we're glad to have you back.
Speaker 1: I could not do this show without you. I've definitely
Speaker 1: missed you. My man was frazzled because of all I
Speaker 1: had going on as well. But I'm glad you're back
Speaker 1: and I'm glad we got a chance to see this,
Speaker 1: and um, I know you deal, lor P. I'll just
Speaker 1: say this publicly too. I had the best mother in
Speaker 1: the world. I want everybody to know. She was the
Speaker 1: best mother in the world. There was nobody that She
Speaker 1: gave me everything I could have ever asked for it
Speaker 1: more so, UM, yeah, she was the best one for sure.
Speaker 1: Well I tell you this, I know that the great
Speaker 1: lady this in you is there and she's gonna be
Speaker 1: a SLB in a minute, because baby, she's gonna be
Speaker 1: a powerhouse. I'm glad she liked me, though. Let me
Speaker 1: just say y'all that again. I'm glad the Lord I Um,
Speaker 1: I just think that I don't know where the world
Speaker 1: is headed. The country is, and it's it's showing us.
Speaker 1: America is showing us. It's as so bad right now.
Speaker 1: And I think people keep forgetting that, Yep, I might
Speaker 1: have been born black, I may have been born a
Speaker 1: Latino or whatever, but if I was born in America,
Speaker 1: I'm an American. We keep forgetting that we are Americans
Speaker 1: because we keep putting race and money in front of
Speaker 1: everything power and it's it's just detrimental. And I don't
Speaker 1: even know what's gonna happen for these young millennials or
Speaker 1: the children. I'm afraid for the children. But in my lifetime,
Speaker 1: I don't see it changing in my lifetime. And I'm
Speaker 1: I'm past fifty, so I may not even have another
Speaker 1: fifty years. I don't see a change. And in fact,
Speaker 1: it looks like it's we're going backwards real fast, too,
Speaker 1: real fast. Uh. In the words that teach you, Jane,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask everybody that's on this lap keep
Speaker 1: your head on the swivel, because you just don't know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. From day to day. People are angry
Speaker 1: and embittered, and you know, you you go, You might
Speaker 1: be as simple it's going to put some gas in
Speaker 1: the gas station and something erupts. Pay attention to everything
Speaker 1: that's going on around you, because not only will they
Speaker 1: blame you for it, but you will. You will go
Speaker 1: to jail for it or lose your life for it,
Speaker 1: for something that somebody else did it. I'm exhausted, the man,
Speaker 1: the heat, the she, and the week. All three of
Speaker 1: us tired. Good God, I'm tired of ship. But we
Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining us, because here at laugh alone,
Speaker 1: we couldn't do this show without you, because we can't
Speaker 1: do what Lauren on this stage what. We cannot get
Speaker 1: anybody to change your mind. We can only get you, guys,
Speaker 1: to use your mind. And in order to use your mind,
Speaker 1: you have to have one. We don't persuade you to
Speaker 1: think I think our way. We persuade, we persuade you
Speaker 1: to think your way. See that's the problem. We don't
Speaker 1: need you to think like us. We need you to
Speaker 1: think like you. Hopefully it's logical, and hopefully it is
Speaker 1: common sense because a lot of us is missing common sense.
Speaker 1: Some of y'all dumb as a box of rocks. Let
Speaker 1: me just say the ship or commons sense. You know,
Speaker 1: they need to sell it. I need to buy it
Speaker 1: and sell it because a lot of people. But thank
Speaker 1: you guys for joining us her laugh and learn. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys. We will see you all. We are
Speaker 1: all sitting on the edge of our seats waiting for
Speaker 1: the outcome. Uh, not only the amount of are very trial,
Speaker 1: but just anything that's happening in life. I think we
Speaker 1: need to start sending emails to Joe Biden because Joe
Speaker 1: Biden needs to help had his feet needs to be
Speaker 1: held to the fire you all us, and you need
Speaker 1: to pay us because you will not be a two
Speaker 1: term president. Even if we came out in millions and
Speaker 1: millions and numbers more than we did. They already got
Speaker 1: it set up for you not to win. No, we're not,
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm with that, and you know I
Speaker 1: was with it, but maybe Yang yeah Biden now, but
Speaker 1: thank you, my lord, thank you flame As for joining us.
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