Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with
Speaker 2: you and Senator there are two major issues that we're
Speaker 2: going to be dealing with on the POD and one
Speaker 2: of them deals with the tragic consequences of a wide
Speaker 2: open border that is now costing young people their lives
Speaker 2: with illegal immigrants that are killing them. And one of
Speaker 2: the tragic attacks happened in your hometown, my town of Houston.
Speaker 3: Every day, another one of these happens, day after day
Speaker 3: after day. Americans are being murdered, children are being raped.
Speaker 3: What is happening is horrific, and Joe Biden and the
Speaker 3: Democrats are allowing they are causing the criminal invasion of
Speaker 3: the United States of America. We just had breaking news
Speaker 3: from my hometown. Look, I love the city of Houston.
Speaker 3: I've grown up in the city of Houston. A twelve
Speaker 3: year old girl was murdered by two Venezuelan migrants. This
Speaker 3: comes on the heels of a thirteen year old girl
Speaker 3: raped in New York. This comes on the heels of
Speaker 3: Rachel Morin raped and murdered in Maryland. This comes on
Speaker 3: the heels of Lake and Riley. This comes on the
Speaker 3: heels of Jeremy Cassaris. Every week it seems another case,
Speaker 3: another case, another case. This has got to end. Additionally,
Speaker 3: on Capitol Hill today, Joe Biden, the Democrats continue to
Speaker 3: nominate radicals to.
Speaker 4: The federal bench.
Speaker 3: They don't care about stopping this invasion at our southern border.
Speaker 3: They don't care about keeping our families safe. Instead, Biden
Speaker 3: nominates radicals who number one, refuse to punish violent criminals,
Speaker 3: give them incredibly light sentences and let them go. But
Speaker 3: number two, today we had a hearing with a judicial
Speaker 3: nominee who has spent years volunteering in support of a
Speaker 3: radical communist organization calling for a worker's revolution. It's true,
Speaker 3: astonishing the radicals they're trying to put on the federal bench.
Speaker 3: That's what we're facing right now.
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Speaker 2: mentioned this story and it has uh trickled out with
Speaker 2: more information that we now know that it yet again
Speaker 2: is another illegal immigrant. Is the suspect in this Texas
Speaker 2: girls murder that were recently caught by border patrol and
Speaker 2: then released into the US. This is all being done
Speaker 2: by design by the Biden administration to flood this country
Speaker 2: with the legal immigrants. And they know that people are dying,
Speaker 2: They know that children are being murdered and being raped,
Speaker 2: and they don't seem to care at all, even when
Speaker 2: these stories keep hitting.
Speaker 3: Well, look, this is Thursday night that we're recording this.
Speaker 3: The story just broke this evening. I gotta say the
Speaker 3: facts these cases are all horrific, but I don't know
Speaker 3: that there's one that makes me more angry than this.
Speaker 3: This is a beautiful little girl. Let me read you
Speaker 3: from the coverage of the New York Post tonight.
Speaker 4: Here's the headline.
Speaker 3: Migrant charged with murder of twelve year old Joscelyn Nungari
Speaker 3: was released into the US just weeks ago. Now listen
Speaker 3: to the reporting. Police and Houston have arrested two migrants
Speaker 3: from Venezuela for the murder of twelve year old Joscelyn Nungari,
Speaker 3: who was lured away from home, then strangled and dumped
Speaker 3: in a bayou. One of the suspects crossed the border
Speaker 3: illegally less than a month before the shocking murder, and
Speaker 3: was released into the US after claiming he feared for
Speaker 3: his life if he was sent back to his home country,
Speaker 3: sources told the Post. Johann Jose Rangel Martinez, twenty one
Speaker 3: and Franklin Jose Pena Ramos, twenty six, were charged Thursday
Speaker 3: with capital murder. Apartment of Homeland Security Sources said Penyaremos
Speaker 3: crossed into El Paso, Texas on May twenty eighth, less
Speaker 3: than a month ago. He was released soon after his
Speaker 3: interaction with border agents. He told authorities that he planned
Speaker 3: to live with his cousin in Houston until his court
Speaker 3: appearance in July. Sources said agents put a GPS tracker
Speaker 3: on Penya Ramos, which was only set to monitor his
Speaker 3: location for twenty one days. It was unclear whether he
Speaker 3: was wearing the tracker when Jocelyn was murdered. Investigators identified
Speaker 3: the suspects from surveillance footage after they were seen following
Speaker 3: Jocelyn as she walked into a local convenience store. Her
Speaker 3: body was found in a swampy creek on Monday by
Speaker 3: a Houston resident who happened to be driving by. She
Speaker 3: told ktr KTV she thought the girl was a floating mannequin.
Speaker 3: At first, I did a U turn and I stopped
Speaker 3: on the bridge, put my flashers on, looked down and
Speaker 3: I realized it was someone. I parked right here and
Speaker 3: called nine one one immediately, she said. The two migrants
Speaker 3: were arrested at a local apartment complex where they had
Speaker 3: been living as roommates cops said. Homeland Security is opened
Speaker 3: an investigation into the suspects immigration history. The victim's mother,
Speaker 3: Alexis Nungari, said her daughter sleep sneaked out of their
Speaker 3: apartment late Sunday. She told local outlet Khou that she
Speaker 3: was taken advantage of by her killers. I'm like angry
Speaker 3: that they took advantage of her. She was so young,
Speaker 3: she was twelve. You took my baby away. You took
Speaker 3: her away. Now I get to let her little brother
Speaker 3: know his older sin is never coming home.
Speaker 1: She said.
Speaker 3: She turned into a beautiful, beautiful young lady. Alexis said,
Speaker 3: I was really looking forward to seeing how she was
Speaker 3: going to be, and they took every opportunity away from
Speaker 3: me and my family. Houston Mayor John Whitner Whitmyer, Democrat,
Speaker 3: said Thursday that Jocelyn's murder affected him personally as a
Speaker 3: grandfather and a father. It doesn't get any worse if
Speaker 3: there is any circumstance where you deny bail. This is it, Ben,
Speaker 3: This is friggin' horrific.
Speaker 2: The part that is so frustrating to me is the
Speaker 2: fact that the police officials described these two individuals and
Speaker 2: let's talk about who's coming across the border. You've got Martinez,
Speaker 2: who's twenty one. You've got Ramos who's twenty six. They've
Speaker 2: been arrested, they've been charged our of capital murder by
Speaker 2: Houston police, as you mentioned, in connection with a strangulation
Speaker 2: death of this twelve year old girl. They apparently either
Speaker 2: followed her or walked with her to the seven to eleven.
Speaker 2: And you look at this and you realize that not
Speaker 2: only did they know what they were doing, but these
Speaker 2: two people are now being accused of strangling her to death,
Speaker 2: raping her, and then leaving her body in this creek
Speaker 2: at the bridge. The mother is said she jumped in
Speaker 2: her car, impeded her on her cell phone, which led
Speaker 2: her to the creek. When she arrived, police officers were
Speaker 2: canvassing the scene. The mother was told about an hour
Speaker 2: later that the police had found her body in that creek.
Speaker 2: These are two military age men coming into this country
Speaker 2: killing a twelve year old. We don't know who these
Speaker 2: people are, we don't know their background, we don't know
Speaker 2: what crimes they may have committed before this in Venezuela.
Speaker 2: And yet the Biden administration says, no, no, no, you're good.
Speaker 2: We're going to track you for twelve days. We don't
Speaker 2: even know if the tracker was on. And the question
Speaker 2: I would ask is if the tracker was off, for example,
Speaker 2: is there any mechanism in place to then really start
Speaker 2: looking for the individuals before they go out and kill
Speaker 2: one of our kids.
Speaker 3: Every week, this is happening over and over and over again. No,
Speaker 3: the Biden administration doesn't care. No Democrat in Congress cares.
Speaker 3: And you may think that's harsh, but if they cared,
Speaker 3: they would do something about it. Every time we force
Speaker 3: a vote to stop this, every single Democrat, all of them, votes,
Speaker 3: know and they do it over and over again. Look,
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, if you look at the picture
Speaker 3: of this twelve year old girl, I'm sorry, but this
Speaker 3: really upsets me. As you know, I have teenaged daughters.
Speaker 3: Yeah she's twelve, Yeah she has braces, she has braces.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at her thinking that these animals, these monsters,
Speaker 3: murdered this child. And I gotta say, this case reminds
Speaker 3: me of the most significant case that I litigated when
Speaker 3: I was Solicitor General of Texas. It was a case
Speaker 3: that dealt with a criminal a murder named Jose or
Speaker 3: Nesto Mediin. Now Mediine, like these two, was an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 3: He was an illegal immigrant from Mexico and Jose or
Speaker 3: Nesto Mediine. In nineteen ninety three, he was part of
Speaker 3: a gang that raped and murdered two teenage girls in Houston.
Speaker 3: They were fourteen and sixteen years old, Elizabeth Panya and
Speaker 3: Jennifer Rtman. It was a case that was horrific. Just
Speaker 3: like this case, they strangled the girls and in that
Speaker 3: case they violently raped them. We don't know. I pray
Speaker 3: that did not happen here. We don't know right now
Speaker 3: if that happened or not. But in the case of Mediine,
Speaker 3: he wrote a handwritten confession. It's four pages, handwritten. I've
Speaker 3: read it, held those pages, which is sickening. He bragged
Speaker 3: about what he did. He was proud of what he did.
Speaker 3: He bragged about how one of the little girls had
Speaker 3: a Mickey Mouse watch that he kept as a trophy
Speaker 3: of the night because he was so proud of raping
Speaker 3: and murdering these teenage girls. This is sick There is
Speaker 3: evil in this world. And I argue this case twice
Speaker 3: in the US Supreme Court. I prevailed twice, and ultimately
Speaker 3: Medie Inn was executed. He was executed for those horrific murders.
Speaker 3: But I got to tell you I visited with their parents,
Speaker 3: and I got to tell you, Look, you're a dad, Ben,
Speaker 3: How is a dad?
Speaker 4: How is a mom?
Speaker 3: Do you live with knowing what your child's last minutes
Speaker 3: on earth were and knowing how horrific they were? I
Speaker 3: mean it, I stood on the Supreme Court steps with
Speaker 3: the parents of those girls, and look, I gotta admit
Speaker 3: I feel for the dads because I like understand I
Speaker 3: feel for the moms obviously too, But as a dad,
Speaker 3: there's something, there's a feeling of helplessness and rage and like,
Speaker 3: how did they take my baby? And what is wrong?
Speaker 3: And what can I do about it? And that's what
Speaker 3: just happened again in Houston from another illegal alien committing
Speaker 3: another horrific crime.
Speaker 2: I also want to go back to something you said,
Speaker 2: because I think people need to understand what you're saying
Speaker 2: is very accurate. When you're saying this is happening every day.
Speaker 2: Let's move cities. Let's go to New York City. New
Speaker 2: York City is not a border town. It's not a
Speaker 2: border city, it's not a border state. It's very far
Speaker 2: away from the border. An illegal immigrant from Ecuador who
Speaker 2: was arrested in connection with a sexual assault of a
Speaker 2: thirteen year old New York City girl, admitted that he
Speaker 2: filmed the attack as he became more comfortable during the attack.
Speaker 2: This was on the front page as well of the
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 3: Post, and this story broke just in the last couple
Speaker 3: of days, a thirteen year old girl in New York
Speaker 3: being raped in a park. Twenty five year old illegal immigrant,
Speaker 3: Christian Giovanni Inga Landi, was arrested on Tuesday, Tuesday of
Speaker 3: this week, just a couple of days ago. He reportedly
Speaker 3: entered the United States in twenty twenty one. Last week,
Speaker 3: the thirteen year old girl and a thirteen year old
Speaker 3: boy were both held at knife point by inga Landi
Speaker 3: with a machette style blade. He tied the girl up,
Speaker 3: and a group of Good Samaritans located him, called him
Speaker 3: out as a rapist before smacking him around and tying
Speaker 3: him up with a belt. And God blessed those New Yorkers,
Speaker 3: like there is a beautiful thing, this monster. They found him,
Speaker 3: they tied him up, and he was captured. Accorded to
Speaker 3: multiple reports, Ingolandi confessed to the cops that he recorded
Speaker 3: the attack and let me read the quote from the post.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 3: The chilling admission by Christian Giovanni Ingolandi, twenty five, broke
Speaker 3: the silence in an otherwise hush court hearing in which
Speaker 3: he was arraigned on charges of rape, predatory sexual assault, kidnapping,
Speaker 3: a raft of other felonies from the shocking June thirteenth
Speaker 3: attack in Cassena Park.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 3: I was nervous at first, then got comfortable and recorded it,
Speaker 3: Ingolandi admitted in a videotaped statement, prosecutors said in Queen's
Speaker 3: Criminal Court, drawing sighs from the audience. Ingolandi claimed that
Speaker 3: he saw the two thirteen year olds having sexual relations.
Speaker 3: When he approached them, he used the knife to cut
Speaker 3: off her clothes, and after he committed the sexual assault,
Speaker 3: he stole both of the teen's phones and fled.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 3: I went to buy drugs afterwards, He reportedly said, this
Speaker 3: is happening. That was Tuesday, This is Thursday, every day,
Speaker 3: every other day, every other week. This is happening. People
Speaker 3: are being murdered, children are being raped, and not what
Speaker 3: is Joe Biden doing. He's promising amnesty for a million
Speaker 3: illegal aliens. He's not mentioning this. What let me ask you,
Speaker 3: why isn't Joe Biden Tommy, Yeah, he's doubled down.
Speaker 2: In fact, I mean, he's just saying, this is part
Speaker 2: of the carnage of my plan to remake America. This
Speaker 2: is the democratics parties carnage. They're saying this is acceptable
Speaker 2: and it's not just this. We keep talking about this,
Speaker 2: but I think we have to keep talking about center.
Speaker 2: You hit pause on these stories because we have a
Speaker 2: couple more that I want to bring up. But we
Speaker 2: also have warnings out coming from the FBI and people
Speaker 2: in the FBI who are letting us know in border patrol,
Speaker 2: letting us know we are at a major risk of
Speaker 2: a terrorist attack by the same military age men that
Speaker 2: are coming across the southern border, that the same age
Speaker 2: of these murderers and rapists of these children who are
Speaker 2: coming into this country. We just arrested some of them
Speaker 2: directly connected to isis K, the same people that had the.
Speaker 1: Eight of them massacre in Russia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight of them, And yet they are just saying
Speaker 2: this is part of the ugly truth of remaking a country.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get some bad in here. When we're letting
Speaker 2: in some of the others that we need.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna say something that's going to sound extreme
Speaker 3: and hyperbolic. If you elect America, if you elect Democrats,
Speaker 3: Americans will die. That's not an exaggeration. It's what's happened,
Speaker 3: accurate it is. This twelve year old girl in Houston
Speaker 3: would be alive if Joe Biden the Democrats hadn't kept
Speaker 3: letting illegal immigrants go. This thirteen year old girl in
Speaker 3: New York would not have been raped. If Joe Biden
Speaker 3: the Democrats hadn't kept letting illegal immigrants go. Rachel Morin
Speaker 3: in suburban Maryland would be alive, a mother of five
Speaker 3: raped and murdered by an illegal immigrant. Joe Biden the
Speaker 3: Democrats released Lake and Riley, twenty two nursing student, would
Speaker 3: be a live if not for the illegal immigrant that
Speaker 3: Joe Biden the Democrats released. The fifteen year old girl
Speaker 3: in Boston, Massachusetts, with severe mental disabilities raped by an
Speaker 3: illegal immigrant. Joe Biden of the Democrats. Release Jeremy Cassra's
Speaker 3: two year old boy in Prince George's County, Maryland, murdered
Speaker 3: by an illegal immigrant. Joe Biden the Democrats released over
Speaker 3: and over and over again. Let me ask you something,
Speaker 3: Why don't democrats talk about this? Have you ever heard
Speaker 3: once Joe Biden talk about this? Have you heard Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris talk about this? Have you heard a single Democrat
Speaker 3: senator talk about this? Have you heard a single Democrat
Speaker 3: House member talk about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the answer is no. And you brought up Rachel
Speaker 2: Morend's name a moment ago. The illegal immigrant suspected in
Speaker 2: her murder, we now have learned from the New York
Speaker 2: Posts went on a month's long terror spree. This is
Speaker 2: another person that should have never been here and was
Speaker 2: committing heinous crimes.
Speaker 3: He assaulted in Los Angeles a mother and her nine
Speaker 3: year old daughter. He broke into their home and assaulted them.
Speaker 3: This is a patterned over and over again. And I
Speaker 3: want to play a clip. So this is Joy Read,
Speaker 3: the crazy left wing host on MSNBC and squad member
Speaker 3: left wing representative Jayapal, and I want you to listen
Speaker 3: to them laughing about the rape of the thirteen year
Speaker 3: old girl in New York.
Speaker 4: Play the clip.
Speaker 5: Great, citizens, but there's a lot of fear monger, there's
Speaker 5: a lot of fear ustury. Absolutely, you know, and I
Speaker 5: think it's kind of remarkable that the polls I look
Speaker 5: at the national polls, actually Americans still support immigrants, support immigration.
Speaker 5: It's just that they would like to see a system
Speaker 5: that actually works and that can keep them safe and secure.
Speaker 4: And all of us want that.
Speaker 5: And you know, I've been working on this issue for
Speaker 5: twenty years, since before I came to Congress, in the
Speaker 5: streets as an activist.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you, this is one of the reasons
Speaker 6: people have these sort of thinking, this sort of thinking.
Speaker 6: Here's the three cable networks reporting of this. Our banner said,
Speaker 6: soon Biden announces legal protections for undocumented spouses a citizen's
Speaker 6: CNN's banner said, Biden announces new protections for someone documented spouses.
Speaker 6: Here was Fox's banner, migrant arrested.
Speaker 4: For raping thirteen year old.
Speaker 6: Yes, and so I think that's part of the problem.
Speaker 4: I think you have a lot of.
Speaker 5: The prophere marker exactly. And we know that when people
Speaker 5: have economic insecurity, I mean, you.
Speaker 2: Hear them there and they laugh at Fox News's banner
Speaker 2: telling the truth about what is happening in this country,
Speaker 2: and they mock the fact that a thirteen year old
Speaker 2: has been raped and killed.
Speaker 3: That laughter is sick. That is two elite Democrat media
Speaker 3: personalities that a member of Congress laughing at a thirteen
Speaker 3: year old girl who was violently raped by an illegal
Speaker 3: alien with a machete, and they laugh at it. And
Speaker 3: by the way, they're mocking Why because Fox reported on it.
Speaker 3: They don't feel any guilty see it, and didn't report
Speaker 3: on it. MSNBC didn't report on it. The corporate media
Speaker 3: they don't even tell you this. They don't want you
Speaker 3: to know. Why are there laughing? What kind of sick
Speaker 3: person laughs at the rape of a child. I'm sorry, Look,
Speaker 3: we try to keep this pod light. I gotta tell you.
Speaker 3: Before I was in the Senate, I spent a lot
Speaker 3: of years working in law enforcement. I spent five and
Speaker 3: a half years as Solicitor General of Texas. I handled
Speaker 3: a lot of cases, a lot of criminal cases. I
Speaker 3: argued a lot of appeals in the Supreme Court, in
Speaker 3: the Fifth Circuit, in the Texas Supreme Court. The ones
Speaker 3: that make me the angriest, that just fill me with rage,
Speaker 3: are when evil bastards hurt children. I think there is
Speaker 3: a special circle of hell that I do not think
Speaker 3: there is anything worse than hurting children. And to listen
Speaker 3: to someone laughing at a thirteen year old being raped
Speaker 3: and mocking they say, that's the fear mongering you're reporting
Speaker 3: what's happening now, Actually reporting the news is not fear mongering.
Speaker 3: What you are doing is covering up the news because
Speaker 3: your political agenda matters more than the little girls who
Speaker 3: are being murdered and being raped.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, just to put in perspective, if you want
Speaker 2: to know what the law enforcement agencies around the country
Speaker 2: are really focused on, it's going after people that, for example,
Speaker 2: have done donuts and charging them with hate crimes on
Speaker 2: gay pride paintings or sidewalks in the middle of the street.
Speaker 2: Just to put in perspective, they say that those people
Speaker 2: that have done that, some of them kids being idiots
Speaker 2: and juvenile doing burnouts on the rainbow crossings in the
Speaker 2: middle of the street, are now they should be labeled
Speaker 2: for the rest of their lives. Is people that are
Speaker 2: hate crimes that should not be trust in siety. But
Speaker 2: these people who are actually out there raping children and
Speaker 2: murdering them, and there's a five the media will completely
Speaker 2: overlook that story and move right on down the path
Speaker 2: and they'll allow for people like you, like mentioned a
Speaker 2: moment ago on MSNBC, to actually mock and laugh the
Speaker 2: killing of a child. I don't know how they live
Speaker 2: with themselves, but I think they understand this, Senator. They
Speaker 2: can't talk about this and be honest about it right
Speaker 2: before this election.
Speaker 1: It's too big of a liability.
Speaker 3: Well, look, don't forget what Merrick Garland, Joe Biden's Attorney General,
Speaker 3: describes as the single greatest commitment of manpower in the
Speaker 3: history of the Department of Justice, and that is trying
Speaker 3: to track down every little old lady who was on
Speaker 3: the mall singing God Bless America on January sixth, and
Speaker 3: Merrick Garland said, there's never been a greater commitment of
Speaker 3: resources at DOJ than going after every one of those
Speaker 3: peaceful protesters. I gotta say he means more than nine
Speaker 3: to eleven more than tracking down Al Qaeda, more than
Speaker 3: tracking down isis more than tracking down the radical terrorists
Speaker 3: that the Joe Biden administration is releasing into this country,
Speaker 3: the Hamas and Hesbala terrorists, the isis K terrorists, the
Speaker 3: al Shabab terrorists that are coming into this country and
Speaker 3: that are going to murder Americans. It is a matter
Speaker 3: of time. With the open red carpet invitation from Joe
Speaker 3: Biden to the Democrats, we are going to see tragically.
Speaker 3: I do not want this to happen, but it is
Speaker 3: becoming inevitable that we're going to see a major terrorist attack.
Speaker 3: They're not devoting the resources to that. They're not devoting
Speaker 3: the resources to There's no one at the Department of
Speaker 3: Justice saying, you know what, day after day after day,
Speaker 3: we have children being raped, we have children being murdered
Speaker 3: from illegal aliens. We're releasing Let's go track them down
Speaker 3: and catch them. Nope, they're not doing that. They're saying, dad, gummet,
Speaker 3: Granny was singing on them all, let's go find her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great point.
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Speaker 2: There's some breaking news. I mentioned a moment Ago Center
Speaker 2: and in a statement to Fox News, ICE has now
Speaker 2: confirmed that the illegal alien charged with rape and murder
Speaker 2: of Rachel Brand entered the US as a quote got
Speaker 2: away on around February thirteenth of twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 2: that's where the beginning of his interaction with border agents
Speaker 2: and this country began.
Speaker 1: There's a lot more to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. This case illustrates the revolving
Speaker 3: door of the Joe Biden open borders Prior to that,
Speaker 3: this murderer was caught by the border patrol not once,
Speaker 3: not two times, but three separate times in a matter
Speaker 3: of days, and he was expelled each time to Mexico
Speaker 3: via Title forty two. So once on January nineteenth, twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three, when he tried to cross near Santa Theresa,
Speaker 3: New Mexico, he was apprehended.
Speaker 4: They sent him to Mexico.
Speaker 3: A second time on January thirty first, so just twelve
Speaker 3: days later, near El Paso, Texas, he crossed, they apprehended him,
Speaker 3: They sent him back to Mexico, and a third time
Speaker 3: on February sixth, twenty twenty three, near Santa Theresa, Mexico,
Speaker 3: so six days later, seven days later. And then his
Speaker 3: fourth try about a week later, he was able to
Speaker 3: slip into the US near El Passo without apprehension. So
Speaker 3: understand this guy's from l Salvador. Did they send him
Speaker 3: back to El Salvador. Nope, not once. Basically, what they
Speaker 3: kept doing is they'd catch him and they just drop
Speaker 3: him off right south of the border, and you know what,
Speaker 3: he come back again. They drop him off south of
Speaker 3: the border, he come back again, and it's like a game.
Speaker 3: They're just playing a game. And if they had send
Speaker 3: this guy back all the way to Al Salvador, Rachel
Speaker 3: Marin would be alive. Four times in a matter of weeks,
Speaker 3: he crosses illegally. Three times he gets caught and they
Speaker 3: let him go just south of the border. The fourth time,
Speaker 3: he's a god away and he comes and rape and
Speaker 3: rapes and murders her.
Speaker 1: Wait when you see that record.
Speaker 2: The question that I have for you now is we
Speaker 2: are about a week away from the first president or debate.
Speaker 2: How does Donald Trump handle this issue? I mean, one
Speaker 2: of the things that I would love for him to
Speaker 2: say to the president and I don't think this is
Speaker 2: really and I got you. I think it's a could
Speaker 2: be a real moment for the president is just say, hey, Joe,
Speaker 2: can you name any of the victims who've died recently
Speaker 2: at the hands of legal immigrants. Do you know any
Speaker 2: of their names? Because I know them and I've called them.
Speaker 2: I think this presence so out of touch with reality.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he knows the stories we're talking about now.
Speaker 3: I don't think he does. You remember it in the
Speaker 3: State of the Union, he did not plan to say
Speaker 3: anything about this, and he got heckled from the crowd
Speaker 3: from a Republican House member who said Lake and Riley,
Speaker 3: say her name and remember. Biden responded by saying, Lincoln
Speaker 3: Riley got her name wrong. Lincoln Riley, of course, is
Speaker 3: a football coach, not the twenty two year old woman
Speaker 3: murdered by Nellegaliley and Joe Biden had released, so he
Speaker 3: called her Lincoln Riley instead of Laken. And his defense
Speaker 3: he said, yeah, she was killed by an illegal. And
Speaker 3: then his defense was, you know what, legals kill people too,
Speaker 3: which is the most asinine thing. Because we had murders
Speaker 3: in the United States. You shouldn't be mad that I
Speaker 3: keep letting in more and more and more murderers. Just
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, what harm could more murderers do
Speaker 3: in this country? It is asinine. I think that's a
Speaker 3: very good point.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 3: I hope Trump next week of the debate is prepared
Speaker 3: to prosecute this and prepared to prosecute it systematically. What
Speaker 3: I hope is Trump doesn't go over the top. Now
Speaker 3: I'm worried he might, but I hope he very calmly
Speaker 3: lays out the facts and makes Joe Biden defend them
Speaker 3: because he can't. You're right. Biden can't. He probably doesn't
Speaker 3: know anything about these cases. He doesn't care. It doesn't matter,
Speaker 3: and there is power. You know, there's an old line
Speaker 3: in a court of law, which is, if you have
Speaker 3: the facts, bang the facts. If you have the law,
Speaker 3: bang the law. If you have neither, bang the table.
Speaker 3: In this instance, the facts are so compelling. What I
Speaker 3: would encourage Trump to do is not get worked up
Speaker 3: at all, but just calmly explain them one after the other.
Speaker 4: And ask him.
Speaker 3: I'd say, mister President, Joe, what do you say to
Speaker 3: the parents of Lake and Riley. What do you say
Speaker 3: to the parents of Rachel Morin. What do you say
Speaker 3: to the parents of the thirteen year old girl raped
Speaker 3: in New York? What do you say to the parents
Speaker 3: of the twelve year old girl murdered in Houston? What
Speaker 3: do you say to the parents of Jeremy Cassaris, the
Speaker 3: two year old boy murdered in Maryland? Joe Biden does
Speaker 3: not have a response to that, And actually the facts
Speaker 3: are so terrible that it has more force if Trump
Speaker 3: is calm laying it out. I hope he does that.
Speaker 2: One other thing that I just had to get your
Speaker 2: thoughts on is Majorcis was on TV and he denied
Speaker 2: culpability in the rape and the murder of Rachel for example.
Speaker 2: And not only that, but they referred to this murderer
Speaker 2: as a newcomer. Newcomer, how much more callous can you
Speaker 2: be when you refer to a person that just killed
Speaker 2: a mother five as a being pc as a newcomer.
Speaker 3: Look, Mayorcus does not care. No Democrat member of Congress cares.
Speaker 3: That sounds harsh. I mean, reasonable people want to give
Speaker 3: those who disagree with us the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3: That's a natural instinct, and they'll say no, no, I care,
Speaker 3: I care. If they cared, they would stop the conduct
Speaker 3: that causes it to happen again. If you cared about
Speaker 3: Lake and Riley, you would have acted in time to
Speaker 3: save Rachel Morin. If you cared about Jeremy Caseras, you
Speaker 3: would have acted in time to save the twelve year
Speaker 3: old girl murder in Houston, or the thirteen year old
Speaker 3: girl raped in New York, or the fifteen year old
Speaker 3: girl raped in Boston. They are not changed, and by
Speaker 3: the way, they're not changing it today. All of these
Speaker 3: together have not convinced one single Democrat to say enough
Speaker 3: is enough. We're not going to release them anymore. All
Speaker 3: of them have circled the wagons around Joe Biden, and
Speaker 3: they're doing it again today. Today they release someone who's
Speaker 3: going to commit a crime in America. Tomorrow they're going
Speaker 3: to release someone who's going to commit a crime in America.
Speaker 3: The next day, they're going to release someone who's going
Speaker 3: to commit a crime in America. And they're not willing
Speaker 3: to look in the eyes of the moms and dads
Speaker 3: who are crying because their babies are dead, because they're
Speaker 3: the ones that release the bastards that killed them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point, and it's gonna Like you said,
Speaker 2: if you're Donald Trump, you have to be careful how
Speaker 2: you talk about this the American people, so you get
Speaker 2: a real conversation.
Speaker 1: They can see just how callous the president is.
Speaker 2: And I think Mayorkas should be fair game for Joe
Speaker 2: Biden at this debate. I think he should have to
Speaker 2: answer for putting this man in charge. Do you agree?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: But look, Mayorcus is a henchman. It is Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: it's Kamala Harris, and it's every Democrat in Congress. Mayorcus
Speaker 3: is following orders he should be impeached, he should be ashamed,
Speaker 3: he should be embarrassed. He is complicit. But see he's
Speaker 3: a hn He's not a decision maker. He just salutes
Speaker 3: and says, oh, okay, you want to have a criminal
Speaker 3: invasion of America. I'm glad to make that happen. He's
Speaker 3: following orders. It is the Democrats who are as puppet masters,
Speaker 3: and they right now, not a one of them admits it.
Speaker 3: Not a one of them is willing to confront the
Speaker 3: horrors and the people who are suffering and dying because
Speaker 3: of their policies.
Speaker 2: I want to move to something else, and we get
Speaker 2: to cover this on this podcast, and I think it's
Speaker 2: so important. And that is your interaction specifically with biden
Speaker 2: judicial nominees. Biden has nominated a judge with ties to communists.
Speaker 2: You had a chance to have a conversation with this nominee,
Speaker 2: Carla Campbell, for literally she worked openly with a Marxist organization.
Speaker 1: Read us into this insanity.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, we had this morning a judicial confirmation hearing with
Speaker 3: actually two Court of Appeals nominees, one of the First
Speaker 3: Circuit Court of Appeals, one to the six Circuit Court
Speaker 3: of Appeals. They're both terrible nominees. The one of the
Speaker 3: First Circuit Court of Appeals is a judge in Maine
Speaker 3: who repeatedly has given incredibly soft and lenient sentences to
Speaker 3: vicious criminals. There was one guy who was a child
Speaker 3: molester who molested two little girls, one five years old,
Speaker 3: one nine years old. This judge sentenced him to just
Speaker 3: six years and described from the bench she said, I
Speaker 3: can see so much good in you. You're such a
Speaker 3: good person. This is to the child molester repeatedly molesting
Speaker 3: a five year old nine year old girl. There was
Speaker 3: another woman, a mom whose one year old baby died
Speaker 3: of fentanyl poisoning. Now, she was a drug dealer. She
Speaker 3: had drug dealing all throughout her apartment. This one year
Speaker 3: old child massively overdosed of fentanyl. When he was found,
Speaker 3: his pajamas were coated in fentanyl, the sheets that he
Speaker 3: was lying on were codd in fentanyl. They had fentanyl everywhere.
Speaker 3: He had enough fentanyl in his system to kill four
Speaker 3: adults one year old. She could have sentenced this mother
Speaker 3: to thirty years in jail for murdering her child with fentanyl.
Speaker 3: She sentenced the child to four years. This is a
Speaker 3: terrible nominee. But you know what, most of the hearings
Speaker 3: she got very few questions. You know why, because the
Speaker 3: other nominee was even worse. The other nominee has been
Speaker 3: actively supporting radicals and literally communists. She has been a
Speaker 3: volunteer supporting a communist group that is openly calling for
Speaker 3: a worker's revolution to overthrow capitalism. She's done that for years.
Speaker 3: She also supported a radical left wing candidate for Congress.
Speaker 3: Just give a listen because I questioned her vigorously and
Speaker 3: she would not answer a damn thing about her own record.
Speaker 3: Miss Campbell, I will say I have seen some astonishing
Speaker 3: nominees from this administration, but I have to admit your
Speaker 3: record takes the cake. A judge should not be a
Speaker 3: political activists. Your record demonstrates to me a long history
Speaker 3: of being a political activist, but not just an activist,
Speaker 3: an activist who affiliates with extreme and radical organizations.
Speaker 4: Now, when Senator.
Speaker 3: Grassley asked you about the Worker's Dignity Organization, you gave
Speaker 3: I think deliberately misleading answer. You said you did not
Speaker 3: represent them, and that convinced Senator Grassley not to continue
Speaker 3: on that line of questioning. You have been a legal
Speaker 3: advisor to that organization since twenty thirteen. That is what
Speaker 3: you have publicly printed on your AVO biography. It is
Speaker 3: what has been described in the Tennessee Bar Association when
Speaker 3: you were nominated. Explicitly says she served as a legal
Speaker 3: advisor for local Workers' Rights nonprofit workers Dignity. Now, why
Speaker 3: is it your distancings hereself from them? The reason is
Speaker 3: because they are utterly radical. If you look at this
Speaker 3: group that you've served as the legal advisor for for
Speaker 3: over a decade, this is an openly Marxist organization.
Speaker 4: This is a communist organization.
Speaker 3: Now that those words are not said lightly according to
Speaker 3: their own characterization of their views, this group says there's
Speaker 3: no election outcome that improves conditions for workers. The laws
Speaker 3: of this country have never worked for our people, and
Speaker 3: now that the system is crumbling, we will continue to
Speaker 3: stand in community and solidarity with each other. The only
Speaker 3: way we win in a world we deserve is by
Speaker 3: building a multi racial working class revolution that can push
Speaker 3: out white nationalism, violent state racism, and the capitalist class
Speaker 3: that is desperately clutching to hold control and profits as
Speaker 3: the people rise up. Why have you spent a decade
Speaker 3: as a legal advisor to an openly communist and Marxist organization.
Speaker 7: If I could briefly clarify, more than a decade ago,
Speaker 7: probably for the course of two or three years, I
Speaker 7: served on an advisory board that helped this at the
Speaker 7: time was supposed to be a nonprofit workers' rights organization
Speaker 7: get set up and get started.
Speaker 4: Did you know they were a communist organization?
Speaker 7: Senator at that time?
Speaker 4: None.
Speaker 7: They did not express these kinds of views. It was
Speaker 7: an organization, So this is new.
Speaker 4: This wasn't the case then, Yes.
Speaker 7: And I have not been affiliated with them in more
Speaker 7: than a decade.
Speaker 3: You're aware that your current profile that you have up
Speaker 3: your legal bio says you are right now an advisor
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 7: I apologize for any confusion about that, as though.
Speaker 3: Your testimony under oath and that's all right, the facts
Speaker 3: will come out, but your testimony to I want to
Speaker 3: make it explicit. Your testimony under oath is that you
Speaker 3: have done absolutely nothing and had zero contact with them
Speaker 3: for how long?
Speaker 7: I have not served on their advisory boards?
Speaker 3: You've done absolutely nothing and had zero contact with them
Speaker 3: for how long?
Speaker 4: Please answer the question?
Speaker 3: Many?
Speaker 7: Many years?
Speaker 4: How many?
Speaker 7: I don't know sitting here today, it's been OK.
Speaker 3: If you look at other statements from this organization, because
Speaker 3: they are radicals, they are radicals. If you look also,
Speaker 3: this is the same group in twenty twenty, they called
Speaker 3: for abolishing ice, abolishing prisons and detention centers, and abolishing
Speaker 3: the police. Why did you volunteer for a communist organization
Speaker 3: that calls for abolishing ice and abolishing the police?
Speaker 7: Senator, I have never seen these comments before.
Speaker 4: You didn't know who you were volunteering for.
Speaker 7: I was not a volunteer for them at that You
Speaker 7: are a legal advisor?
Speaker 4: Were you paid?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I was, then you were a volunteer. If you volunteered
Speaker 3: to be a legal advisor, you were a volunteer. Why
Speaker 3: did you volunteer? Do you support abolishing ice?
Speaker 7: Senator? At this time I had.
Speaker 4: To support abolishing I do not.
Speaker 7: Senator.
Speaker 3: Well, it's amazing because a minute ago you also told
Speaker 3: Senator Graham that the Tennessee Immigrant and Refugee Rights Coalition
Speaker 3: that has a manifesto calling for abolishing ice, you said
Speaker 3: you had nothing to do with it, which is fairly
Speaker 3: astonishing because on page three of their manifesto they thank
Speaker 3: you by name for what.
Speaker 4: They say, we would.
Speaker 3: Like to thank the following individuals and organizations for their
Speaker 3: thoughtful feedback and input. This platform would not have been
Speaker 3: possible without their expertise.
Speaker 7: Are they lying, Senator, I'm not familiar with that manifesto?
Speaker 3: Are they lying? Did you provide any assistance? Did you
Speaker 3: give feedback an input?
Speaker 4: Which is what they say on the cover page?
Speaker 7: Senator, I didn't even know that existed, and so no,
Speaker 7: I did not provide input on it.
Speaker 3: And why you know, when Senator Graham asked why you
Speaker 3: gave money to this radical candidate who has said fifty
Speaker 3: two senators are Jim Crow senators and said multiple of
Speaker 3: us are siding with the devil, you laughed and thought
Speaker 3: that was funny.
Speaker 4: But Senator Graham asked you a question.
Speaker 3: Look, that candidate was as radical as I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: And when Senator Graham asked why you gave money to
Speaker 3: that candidate, you just smiled and didn't answer. So, why
Speaker 3: did you give money to a radical candidate who believes
Speaker 3: multiple members of the Senate are siding with the devil?
Speaker 7: Senator?
Speaker 3: Actually, Senator white House, you weren't here before an exchange
Speaker 3: with the chairman where Senator Kennedy asked for longer periods.
Speaker 3: You have two circuit justices, and the chairman said he
Speaker 3: was going to give additional time. So the comment they
Speaker 3: want to be gabbled, it's part of the show, is
Speaker 3: not accurate. And Senator Welch said he was going to
Speaker 3: give additional time. In fact, he said at the beginning
Speaker 3: was going to give six minutes. So my question you
Speaker 3: did not answer, Senator Graham.
Speaker 4: Chairman, how much time is money?
Speaker 1: How much time is it expired? I just want to clarify.
Speaker 1: I just walked in this.
Speaker 4: Why did you give money six minutes?
Speaker 1: Because it seems like more than six is past?
Speaker 3: Why did you give money to this to this radical
Speaker 3: put up the double one too? Why did you give
Speaker 3: money to this radical candidate? Fifteen hundred dollars a lot
Speaker 3: of money.
Speaker 7: That's a question, Senator. Again, I'm not familiar with these comments.
Speaker 4: Why did you give money to this radical candidate?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 4: Could you let her answer the question? Please?
Speaker 7: I'm not familiar with these comments, and.
Speaker 3: I why did you give money to her? That's the
Speaker 3: question you're not going to answer. You're refusing to answer
Speaker 3: why you gave money to her?
Speaker 7: Senator, I'm not familiar with these.
Speaker 4: That's not an answer.
Speaker 3: My answer is why did you what is the affirmative
Speaker 3: re and you gave fifteen hundred dollars? There was something
Speaker 3: you saw in her that you said, this needs fifteen
Speaker 3: hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Why please answer that question? I mis expired?
Speaker 3: Would you please ask the witness to answer the question.
Speaker 3: She's refusing to answer it. It's indefensible, But answer, was
Speaker 3: there any reason? Or you just get fifteen hundred dollars
Speaker 3: to anyone?
Speaker 4: Senator, your time has expired. I would like her to
Speaker 4: answer the question. And you said she could answer the question.
Speaker 4: She has refused to do so multiple times. Please answer
Speaker 4: the question. Answer the question.
Speaker 3: No, she did not. She said she didn't know those comments.
Speaker 3: That's not why she gave the money. Senator, Can I
Speaker 3: ask you why she.
Speaker 4: Gave the money? You don't know because she hasn't answered.
Speaker 4: Are you going to answer?
Speaker 3: Miss Cambler asiety not desire to know why you gave
Speaker 3: money to snatical who says we are aligned?
Speaker 4: Mister Chairman, I have a lot a lot of other
Speaker 4: centers of busy days.
Speaker 1: Can we get on with the next person.
Speaker 3: You don't want to answer to the question either, Senator
Speaker 3: Booker uh record question, miss Campbell, or do you believe
Speaker 3: this committee doesn't deserve an answer.
Speaker 4: To that question? Mister chairman, who has a you're just
Speaker 4: refusing to answer?
Speaker 1: Who's nack?
Speaker 4: Senator's time has expired. If the Senator doesn't like the answer,
Speaker 4: he coul's not an answer.
Speaker 3: She sat there silently and has not spoken. That is
Speaker 3: by definition not.
Speaker 2: An answer from It's amazing by the way they said
Speaker 2: she answered the question.
Speaker 1: They're just flight out lie, won't they they will?
Speaker 3: And it was really striking. I've never seen so this
Speaker 3: particular judicial nominee. She presents as a sort of very mousey,
Speaker 3: shy woman, which is really weird because she volunteers for communists,
Speaker 3: like I've never seen that, and she had so Lindsey
Speaker 3: so Chuck Grassley asked her, Hey, you volunteered for this
Speaker 3: communist group, and she said, I've never represented them, and
Speaker 3: he was like, oh, well, okay, I guess my staff
Speaker 3: got that wrong.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 3: So that happened first, and then Lindsey Graham asked and
Speaker 3: he asked her why did you give money to this
Speaker 3: I mean, this was a radical candidate who literally said,
Speaker 3: all fifty two Republicans who voted against Katanji Brown Jackson
Speaker 3: or all fifty two Republicans vote against Tunji bron Jackson,
Speaker 3: but fifty two Republicans were Jim Crow Republicans, including by
Speaker 3: the way, Tim Scott. She called Tim Scott a white,
Speaker 3: white supremacist. He's African American, but she called Tim Scott
Speaker 3: a white supremacist. This was this judicial candidate's single largest donation.
Speaker 3: She gave fifteen hundred dollars, more than she'd ever given
Speaker 3: to any political candidate. And Lindsey asked her, said why
Speaker 3: did you give the money? And she just stared at
Speaker 3: him silently, and Lindsey moved on. So I went and
Speaker 3: asked her, why did you give the money? And she
Speaker 3: tried that She had the weirdest I've never seen a
Speaker 3: candidate do this, where you have a question and she
Speaker 3: just looks at you silently. And then what happened is
Speaker 3: a bunch of Democrat senators rush in. So Peter Welch
Speaker 3: was cherry of the hearing. He's trying to gabble down
Speaker 3: and say no, no, no, no, I don't want to
Speaker 3: answer this question. Then Corey Booker came in, so Sheldon
Speaker 3: white House chimed in. None of them were there for
Speaker 3: most of the hearing, and Sheldon white House came in
Speaker 3: and said, I'll just gable him down.
Speaker 4: They want that.
Speaker 3: So he was trying to do that, and then Corey
Speaker 3: Booker was just trying to stop the bleeding. But you
Speaker 3: know what, it's amazing. Do you know how many Democrat
Speaker 3: senators on Judiciary Committee asked her, Hey, why'd you represent
Speaker 3: a communist organization?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with probably zero, that.
Speaker 4: Would be zero.
Speaker 3: None of them care, you know, none of them. It
Speaker 3: is a bizarre thing. There is no independent freethrink thinking
Speaker 3: among the Democrats.
Speaker 4: There's none.
Speaker 3: Listen, when Donald Trump was president, he nominated some terrific judges.
Speaker 3: We confirmed the vast majority of his judges. He had
Speaker 3: some judicial nominees that were mistakes, that were bad nominees.
Speaker 3: And you know what we did as Republicans. We rejected him.
Speaker 3: We said, nope, take this one back, this one's not there.
Speaker 3: That's actually under the Constitution, the job of the Senat
Speaker 3: it's called advise and consent. The Democrats never ever do that.
Speaker 3: They're just a rubber stamp, and they're willing. This is
Speaker 3: a woman who's volunteering for multiple organizations that are calling
Speaker 3: for abolishing ice and abolishing the police, and the Democrats
Speaker 3: will all be like the polit bureau and vote dah.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a federal appellate judge to us.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. At the end of the day.
Speaker 2: The question everybody's asking right now is is she going
Speaker 2: to get confirmed?
Speaker 1: And the answer is yes, correct.
Speaker 3: No, I think we'll probably beat this judge. And I
Speaker 3: actually think the reason they paired them so Typically Judiciary Committee,
Speaker 3: they'll do one Court of Appeals judge at a time.
Speaker 3: It's unusual to do two. And I think the reason
Speaker 3: they did this it is I think they knew this
Speaker 3: woman's record was pretty radical and she was going to
Speaker 3: have a really rough time. I think they really want
Speaker 3: the left wing judge from Maine on the fifth circuit
Speaker 3: on the first circuit, and they know that her record
Speaker 3: is terrible too. She keeps letting violent criminals go with
Speaker 3: really really short prison sentences. But they knew, so you know, look,
Speaker 3: I spent I don't know, forty five seconds laying out
Speaker 3: the terrible record about this judge letting violent criminals go early.
Speaker 3: But you had a communist next to her. I don't
Speaker 3: know if she's a communist. She volunteers for the Communists,
Speaker 3: So you decide what that is. But I think it
Speaker 3: was a strategy. They know the sixth Circuit judge will
Speaker 3: go down, that she's not going to get the votes,
Speaker 3: but they're trying to ram the other judge through, and
Speaker 3: the other judge from Maine got a bumpy ride, but
Speaker 3: a much better ride than if she'd been solo and
Speaker 3: people had actually been able to really dive into a
Speaker 3: record incredible.
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