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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, life, liberty in the pursuit of smearing your

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Speaker 2: challenge Jervonta Tank Davis. But Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell your

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Speaker 2: cool and stuff. But Luke, what can you say about

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Speaker 2: But here we are though, and we're gonna be hosting

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of bullshit headlines going around, Luke, how

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Speaker 3: Much more subdued January sixth today than in previous ones

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Speaker 2: And Luke, this show today is sponsored by the two

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Speaker 2: drink hangover I have because I'm an old piece of crabs.

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Speaker 2: Luke was like, you know, we got to go to

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Speaker 2: But the gimmick was, hey, guys, even though you're all adult,

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Speaker 2: For the record, it turned out great, but there was

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Speaker 3: Now do we know if the facility has metal detectors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but eventually it builds stored in an explosion and

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Speaker 3: Don't you show up like porky pig with no pants

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Speaker 1: You can get this bomber jacket at Morning Combat Dot Store.

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Speaker 2: It looks it looks very healthy on you.

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Speaker 2: Showtime dot Com thirty days free. And then how about

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Speaker 2: That's like getting engaged. You don't have to full to

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Speaker 2: The interesting question, Luke, as I transitioned to you regarding

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Speaker 2: The timing of this really doesn't coincide with the with

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Speaker 1: It used to be the case.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. And I don't know that I would

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Speaker 3: This is ly He clearly positioned BFL as a viable

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Speaker 2: Now, whether that's true, is a very different way being

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Speaker 1: Between Jake and PFL.

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Speaker 3: There's to me no denying he's going to be a

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Speaker 1: Do believe that.

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Speaker 1: I just don't.

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Speaker 2: Do you really believe he's going to go and pick

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Speaker 3: But Luke, I think the real broader, Well, I want

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Speaker 1: I promise.

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Speaker 3: Here's where I'm skeptical about the long term fortunes. I

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Speaker 3: I've seen this movie before. I have seen Beltore under

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Speaker 3: No, this initially started where we're going to basically do tournaments,

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Speaker 2: Okay, But the spirit of saying my window, my chance

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a Scott Coker playbook.

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Speaker 3: Look, it can guess and it can be helpful, but

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Speaker 2: Right, So they would have to use him as bait,

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Speaker 1: I just hold the cage. Did the actual contract again?

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Speaker 2: that he does have a you know, like high school

444
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Speaker 2: wrestling background and he's a good athlete like his brother

445
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Speaker 2: all that, but he hasn't even ever had an MME

446
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Speaker 2: fighter really a practice and he has a percentage in

447
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Speaker 2: this sense in this fall we Yeah, he went to

448
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Speaker 2: a UFC Jim and that's Jake and the right with

449
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Speaker 2: the blue shorts.

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Speaker 1: How long ago is this early?

451
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Speaker 2: Was this like teenage Jake right? Ten years ago? What

452
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Speaker 2: year do you producers? He was twenty years old, so

453
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Speaker 2: what's that? Seven years ago? Six years ago? But look,

454
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Speaker 2: the question is interesting. He hasn't even ever had an

455
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Speaker 2: MMA fight outside of this video or watching right here,

456
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Speaker 2: and he now owns a piece of the company. Now

457
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Speaker 2: is that not as big of a deal because PFL

458
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Speaker 2: has so many celebrity investors already and there is a

459
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Speaker 2: lot of money behind the scenes pushing.

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Speaker 1: There's not that much money, could you be quite honest

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Speaker 1: with you. So I looked this up. They've had five

462
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Speaker 1: rounds of funding.

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Speaker 3: They had a Series E in May for thirty million,

464
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Speaker 3: and it's the thirty million that they want to use

465
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Speaker 3: as a way to pump the Superfight Division. Thirty million

466
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Speaker 3: is not nothing. It sounds like a lot, but I

467
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Speaker 3: don't know exactly how much runway that is. If you

468
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Speaker 3: don't have the right event and it loses money, you

469
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Speaker 3: can easily lose tens of millions. Sometimes on a single event,

470
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Speaker 3: you can certainly lose millions, and the single millions over

471
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Speaker 3: the course of one event several over two. What I'm

472
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Speaker 3: trying to point out here is between the cost of

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Speaker 3: running the event, recruiting the talent, paying for them, and

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Speaker 3: again they're gonna get fifty percent, which is admirable as

475
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Speaker 3: a way to attract them over to sign thirty million,

476
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Speaker 3: and then they have overall two hundred plus million in funding.

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Speaker 3: But the thirty million was the runway is supposed to

478
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Speaker 3: be for this new division.

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Speaker 1: It's not nothing.

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Speaker 3: You can get a decent shot at it, but if

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Speaker 3: it doesn't take off fairly quickly, that's what two years

482
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Speaker 3: of runway if that at most, and even that probably

483
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Speaker 3: not that much, especially if you want to get Nate Diaz.

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Speaker 1: Thirty million sounds like a lot.

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Speaker 3: You can do something with it, but that's not an

486
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Speaker 3: infinite amount of money by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 2: Tell me the truths is the first PFL super Fight

488
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Speaker 2: pay per view card going to be like.

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Speaker 1: By god, that's Ariel hall Wani's music. Will he be

490
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Speaker 1: on it if Jake's on it?

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Speaker 2: Magin if Verry Holwani walks back on ESPN's coverage of him, he.

492
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Speaker 1: Might, Yeah, he might get that game. I'd be wild, right,

493
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Speaker 1: He's well liked by him.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, in the KISA, I think who

495
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Speaker 3: you know was the c FO for the UFC is.

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Speaker 1: Now scumback account scumback.

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Speaker 3: Accountant according to Dana white Well, he should be handing

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Speaker 3: out the term scumbag less these days.

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Speaker 1: Huh. He might want to dial that one back.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could also say UFC's Twitter account could

501
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Speaker 2: dial back the power slab commercials today if you.

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Speaker 3: Want to see what the word shameless looks like in

503
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Speaker 3: yeah terms, there you go. But the point of trying

504
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Speaker 3: to make here is the KISA also, I think gets

505
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Speaker 3: some ownership stake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you remember earlier in the show when I

507
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Speaker 2: laid that out.

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Speaker 3: And I apologize I didn't miss I did miss that part.

509
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Speaker 3: I apologize. I'm just pointing out like they're a they're

510
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Speaker 3: a business tandem and they should be thought of in

511
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Speaker 3: that way. It's not like an afterthought, a sort of

512
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Speaker 3: a dynamic duo in a way and so.

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Speaker 2: Well, think about it. What Jake and Nikisa with MVP

514
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Speaker 2: Promotions have have certainly capitalized on what's left of the

515
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Speaker 2: crossover bubble and the interest and bringing in a whole

516
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Speaker 2: new fleet, it seems these days of potential YouTube crossover boxers.

517
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Speaker 2: That's why even Hiszone has their own you know, misfit

518
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Speaker 2: series or whatever. They're essentially just side stepping and bringing

519
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Speaker 2: it over here. Because if you're already gonna more or

520
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Speaker 2: less exclusively try to get MMA names to fight you,

521
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Speaker 2: if some of these MMA names have some gas left

522
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Speaker 2: in the tank and they want to come over to

523
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Speaker 2: PFL and do other fights as well, I mean it

524
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Speaker 2: kind of it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Also, there is part I would I would wonder what

526
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Speaker 3: you make of it. It did say that the pay

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Speaker 3: per views would be co distributed by ESPN and Dezone.

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Speaker 2: I did not read that.

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Speaker 1: I want to double I.

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Speaker 3: Want to make sure I double check this, so if

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Speaker 3: I'm getting this wrong, you can kill me on dead wrongs.

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Speaker 1: But I do believe that they said it's on the

533
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Speaker 1: pay per view side. You don't.

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Speaker 3: Again, we talk about this in boxing as sometimes this

535
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Speaker 3: can be a hurdle. Who's going to distribute the show.

536
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Speaker 3: And again, if they do make a Tank Davis versus

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Speaker 3: Ryan Garcia fight scheduled for April, that would be in

538
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Speaker 3: entirely produced by showtime, but then the feed would be

539
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Speaker 3: carried by the zone. You could get the you could

540
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Speaker 3: bother buy that version, yeah, on their broadcast if you

541
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Speaker 3: wanted to. So interesting that I'm gonna double check that part,

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Speaker 3: But I believe that's right.

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Speaker 2: You look, it's a big swing, and the connections to

544
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Speaker 2: Scott Coker with Belator taking what Biorn was already doing

545
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Speaker 2: and then you know, aggressively going during that stretch of

546
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Speaker 2: extreme old guy versus extreme old guy fights and Kimbo

547
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Speaker 2: slice versus data and all of that which did equal

548
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Speaker 2: the big ratings to justify it in the long run.

549
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Speaker 2: Whether that's whether or not Luke that period for Bellator

550
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Speaker 2: and Coker ever, actually sparked momentum from the idea of

551
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Speaker 2: people tuning in for the ridiculousness and staying for the

552
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Speaker 2: Michael Chandlers and Patricio Pippoles. I don't think we do.

553
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Speaker 2: We have data to support that. It's hard to tell,

554
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Speaker 2: maybe for short periods, but dude, that got brand recognition

555
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Speaker 2: on Spike TV back in the day. In paramount with

556
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Speaker 2: you know, instantly by doing that, I always wonder, Luke,

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Speaker 2: it's an aggressive move, is it? It's not like a

558
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Speaker 2: bush leak move. Is it it's not seen as a

559
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Speaker 2: net it move at all? Or or is it should

560
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Speaker 2: a should a pure MMA league be better than this?

561
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Speaker 2: I don't personally think so. Sometimes I even say that's

562
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Speaker 2: why the Bellator Fador Bedor February fourth on CBS rematch.

563
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Speaker 2: I'm like, cool fight in some really cool ways, you know,

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Speaker 2: I kind of like that. Do you look down on

565
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Speaker 2: PFL for doing this at all? Or do you still

566
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Speaker 2: know that's a savvy move at that at the right time.

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Speaker 3: I definitely feel like, I listen, here's how you know

568
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Speaker 3: it was a move worth taking seriously.

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Speaker 1: It definitely caught me by surprise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, they they're they're trying to go, I listen,

571
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Speaker 3: it can work.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Jake Paul coming over doesn't guarantee automatically all of these

574
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Speaker 3: great results. You still have to do a lot of

575
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Speaker 3: other components in the beyond just the scope of the

576
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Speaker 3: deal to make it all work. But as an interesting

577
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Speaker 3: like challenge to the markets, as a new way of

578
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Speaker 3: thinking about things, as recognizing that there is actually a

579
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Speaker 3: pretty sizeable size to the market, a sizeable scale anyway

580
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Speaker 3: to the market that they can now take advantage of.

581
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Speaker 3: They can offer some of the ESPN platform as a

582
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Speaker 3: way to like combine forces. It's an interesting call. It's

583
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Speaker 3: definitely ballsy, it's definitely forward thinking it, but it also

584
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Speaker 3: in fairness, no really great attempt at anything comes without risk,

585
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Speaker 3: and there's risk involved here too, which that you're gonna

586
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Speaker 3: burn through a lot of money for events that could

587
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Speaker 3: do really well on their own. But don't mean if

588
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Speaker 3: you change your long term fortunes. That is the risk

589
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Speaker 3: they're playing here. But hey, go big or go home, right,

590
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Speaker 3: that's the whole idea.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, so can you humor me to put a

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Speaker 2: ribbon on this, Luke? What were the behind the scenes conversations?

593
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Speaker 2: Is ESPN have to go to Dana, you know, as

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Speaker 2: a friendly to say, hey, we're doing this.

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Speaker 1: We Paul just clarify.

596
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Speaker 3: Paul's deal is the first of pfl's newly developeday per

597
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Speaker 3: view Superfight Division, which is separate from its regular season rosters.

598
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Speaker 3: The PFL held its first pay per view event on

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Speaker 3: ESPN and November. It intends to host two more pay

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Speaker 3: per view events in twenty twenty three. Those events are

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Speaker 3: expected to air on ESPN and the US. Ah, I'm sorry,

602
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Speaker 3: ESPN and the US dozone internationally still there is some

603
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Speaker 3: kind of cool operation happening for international and overall distribution.

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Speaker 1: There you go, does Dana care is their conference? Do

605
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Speaker 1: they go to do go? There's about much. Does ESPN

606
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Speaker 1: go to Dana and just say.

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Speaker 2: Just so you know, like they're bringing in Paul and

608
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Speaker 2: you know, we're all we're all in on this. I

609
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Speaker 2: mean like we're questioning and we will in a later

610
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Speaker 2: topic in the show, like does ESPN really care about

611
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Speaker 2: what's going on with Dana way in terms of what

612
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Speaker 2: you know, how are they how do they actually look

613
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Speaker 2: at UFC? How do they look at PFL.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you this if you're I think what

615
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Speaker 3: has really dawned on PFL is that, you know, doing

616
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Speaker 3: the tournament. You can have a different format, you can

617
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Speaker 3: have big winners from the tournament format. All these things

618
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Speaker 3: are great, like out look at how different our product

619
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Speaker 3: is structured, Look how different it looks, look how different

620
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Speaker 3: it sounds and feels. That's fine, again, what will really

621
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Speaker 3: determine the long term success is what kind of access

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Speaker 3: to the top pay per view names you have.

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Speaker 1: Or don't have.

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Speaker 3: And I think that they finally realize they can't play

625
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Speaker 3: foot seat with the UFC anymore. They don't have to

626
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Speaker 3: be entirely adversarial with them, but they can't play the

627
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Speaker 3: same game that they were of, you know, separate and

628
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Speaker 3: let there's be a sort of a firewall between us.

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Speaker 3: They're realizing they have to take some of what UFC

630
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Speaker 3: has in order to survive. So if you're going to

631
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Speaker 3: make a go for them, why not sign up the

632
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Speaker 3: guy who has been the chief antagonist, as you indicated

633
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Speaker 3: at the beginning of the broadcast, the guy who's done

634
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Speaker 3: the best pay per views to rival them in the

635
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Speaker 3: combat sports market. Basically, you know, I mean it's from

636
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Speaker 3: another sport because it's boxing, but you know, we were

637
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Speaker 3: in Arizona. It's entirely an MME audience watching Jake Paul.

638
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: There are no boxing fans really watching that. There's influencer fans.

639
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Speaker 3: There are influencer fans, that's true.

640
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Speaker 1: That's true.

641
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 3: It's not entirely just MMA fans, but it's no boxing

642
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Speaker 3: fans aren't watching Jake Paul and the may fans are

643
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Speaker 3: watching Jake Paul. So if you're going to make a

644
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Speaker 3: move at him, Jake Paul is as good as any

645
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: catalyst you can find currently out there today and not

646
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Speaker 3: under contract by UFC. Right, you could sign a big

647
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Speaker 3: name like a Francis or whoever. But and of course

648
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Speaker 3: Francis is you.

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Speaker 1: Know, under contract.

650
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Speaker 3: But I'm saying a John Jones, some kind of transformative name.

651
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Speaker 3: They're all under a lock and key. Jake Paul is not.

652
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Speaker 3: It's an interesting gamble. It's an gamble.

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Speaker 2: Before we transition out of this topic, I think the

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Speaker 2: last mating thing was the reference you made that Nate

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Speaker 2: Diaz puts out of a Rizon UH picture to to

656
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Speaker 2: show some you know, it's a strategic public move. But

657
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Speaker 2: we know that Jake is trying to get Nate into

658
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Speaker 2: the PFL for some type of super fight. How does

659
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Speaker 2: Nate Diaz's future and in the in the in the stop,

660
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Speaker 2: he inevit inevitably chooses first to go big in the

661
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Speaker 2: first time that he does a post UFC Combat Sports event.

662
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: What do you think the rizing thing means? Is that

663
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: is that to you know, Paqui out just signed there,

664
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: We're not We're not doing pack Nate Diaz, Right.

665
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: I mean, what are we doing here? I mean you

666
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: could Lloyd? Are we doing Floyd? Well, there's a couple

667
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: of things you could do if folks maybe maybe forget about.

668
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 3: One is you could do Floyd versus Nate Diaz. I

669
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: don't know what kind of fight that is, but could

670
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: it be an attraction?

671
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Oh?

672
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: It could only be a boxing fight, right. Only what

673
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: I'm saying is like how good it would be?

674
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

675
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 3: I you know, I don't know, because Floyd is obviously

676
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 3: degraded from the guy who fought Connor too.

677
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean, do you I think Floyd has a real

678
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: like training camp left in him to go into a

679
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: fight in which if he did f around, like I

680
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: feel like the Logan fight changed him, We're like, oh crap,

681
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: if I mess around too much in this area, it.

682
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 3: Could yeah, because he was stealing our logan left and right,

683
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 3: and he kind of just stood there and took it, right.

684
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he didn't go away. But here's the

685
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 3: thing you might forget. And they did this with Floyd

686
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: versus Tension. They could match up Nate versus some kind

687
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: of Japanese name that may not be big to us. Yeah,

688
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: that would still do massive ratings and or pay per

689
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: view buys I guess be pay per view buys excuse me,

690
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: not ratings as they are on Fuji TV anymore, would

691
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: do big buys in Japan, and they could use that

692
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: to finance the whole thing. So there's a couple of

693
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: possibilities Nate versus another big name in Rizon, Nate versus

694
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: some kind of Japanese name that isn't moving to US,

695
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: but good enough for that market and more importantly winnable

696
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: for Nate and bankable big money for it. Just the same,

697
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: there's a lot of possibility in solid to Rizin.

698
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Nate putting that tweet out like he did cryptic Nature.

699
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: That's to say, hey, I don't really want to go

700
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: to Japan, but I can right now. So hey, Jake,

701
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: if you're looking to really do something, man, you got

702
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: to pay. You gotta pay for it.

703
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

704
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: Also, like, that's great news for you, Jake. I'm interested

705
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: in doing my own thing. I very much think Nate

706
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: and Jake and their teams are probably in coordination, right

707
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm going.

708
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: To guess there, you don't know that for sure.

709
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: I bet that they have some kind of contact between

710
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: each other. I'm gonna bet that they have at least

711
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: some kind of contact, some.

712
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: Kind of somebody passed the Ducci to the left.

713
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: Side past the Duchy on the left hand side, and

714
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: so they know that their careers are kind of connected

715
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: in that way. But I also believe that Nate doesn't

716
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: want to be seen as like, oh, I'm going to

717
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: react to everything that Jake does. No, I'm gonna set

718
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: my own news cycle. I'm gonna have my own vision.

719
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: I don't need to follow you anywhere. That's a big

720
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: part of it too.

721
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah that was an eighties reference, guys, but good effort

722
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: just the same. Yeah. Then, I mean, these guys were

723
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: born in nineteen ninety nine.

724
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: This camera angle make me look fatter? Or hasn't been

725
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: my dietary choices this week?

726
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: We did eat a lot last night.

727
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. And then the kan I saw plate came

728
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: out and I was like, I have nothing left for this.

729
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: I need to Lithuanian exit. But before I did pull

730
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: the exit, I had like six pieces of that and

731
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: my liver is not supposed to fight that battle in Leebing.

732
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: I can't stop fighting.

733
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: You know, you walked home, You walked home, walk that

734
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: off like a man.

735
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: That's what a man does.

736
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: That's a smart call. So I'll give you and you

737
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: left and I did too. We left and then they

738
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: brought chiros. Was not there?

739
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: Oh dude?

740
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: Churros when done, when done delicately, like passionately, like when

741
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: you make you know, like if the person is nude

742
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: while they make it, it's just kind of.

743
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: Want me to make yous nude.

744
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: Rub that incubator known as your dungeries, cook them in there.

745
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, okay, all right. Topic number

746
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: two is the reason why we're here. Yes, the anniversary

747
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: no uh Gervonte Tank Davis is going to take on

748
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: Hector Luis Garcia Saturday night Showtime pay per view. And

749
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: by the way, not only is this main event really

750
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: sneaky good in a lot of ways, yet still playing

751
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: its role as being a potential appetizer on the journey

752
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: for Travanti take Davis to a Ryan Garcia fight should

753
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: he be victorious, This pay per view card is also

754
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: pretty damnloaded with interesting sort of storylines, from boot Tennis

755
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: to Demitrius Androd's Andreid's uh PBC turn here at one.

756
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: Hundred and sixty.

757
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: The big fights in Boxing's American, it's Demetrius Andreid yes,

758
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: and then obviously she's resilient, so it's Jessica androge I

759
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: get the Andred Andros thing fucked up there?

760
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know a lot of a lot of good storyliness.

761
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: What we're saying, a speedy Rashidi ellis taken on Roymont Via.

762
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: That guy's tattoos are intense, bro.

763
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: And do you notice he shaved off his widow peak too.

764
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: He's in dude, Dude, he.

765
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: Looks like he would thrive in prison, you know what

766
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, like, if he got stuck there for

767
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: whatever reason, he would be in charge of shit down there.

768
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: He's a Venezuelan slugger and I called his Showtime I'm sorry,

769
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: his Showbox debut on Showtime in September and he went

770
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: in there against an unbeaten guy in Boca Chica, and like,

771
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: put it on him, dude, he's that he's that bad guy.

772
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: At the end of the video game, we'll see that

773
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: Rashid Yells fight. But Luke Tank Davis is here, and

774
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 2: there's been no shortage of headlines and debates.

775
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: Do we want to talk about him versus Dana controversy?

776
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 3: Now you want to save that for Dana.

777
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: Save that for Dana.

778
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: Okay, we are going to have a conversation about like, hey,

779
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: how is it possible you guys can say what you're

780
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 3: saying about Dana and then cover a guy who got

781
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: arrested for domestic violence?

782
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: Was it now two weeks ago? Something? Yeah?

783
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: And the short answer, by the way, is if I

784
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: held that ground in every situation, I know there. You

785
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: know how this is combats.

786
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: It's an important conversation to have, So we're gonna have it.

787
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: But for the moment, let's discuss the fight.

788
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: Look, the fight itself has enough storylines and intrigue here

789
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: to be something interesting.

790
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: But Luke, I do want to ask you, uh, which.

791
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: We've said, Look, the the off, the the outside, the

792
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: ring stuff, will that play a part at all? And

793
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: the focus I've seen a very intense I've seen a

794
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: playful Tank Davis this week. I've seen him intense when

795
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: he needs to be. To remind you that you know

796
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: he's I think he said at the press conference yesterday,

797
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take out all those uh or No, it

798
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: was his coach Calvin Ford who basically said he's gonna

799
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna use all this as fuel and all the

800
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: negativity that he's had to fight through, whether so induced

801
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: or not.

802
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Luke, by the way, self induced absolutely. Uh. What does

803
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: that mean though for his mental game?

804
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: Because you can imagine where he he pulls the Floyd

805
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Mayweather and is able to just combart mentalize use does

806
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: feel go in there? And even though Hector Luis Garcia

807
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: is the real deal and that's why we're excited for

808
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,239
Speaker 2: this matchup, blow him away, it also could compromise him.

809
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: What did you get?

810
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: What did you make of the times Tank did speak

811
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: this week?

812
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 3: Because when he spoke, he sounded reasonably fine?

813
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: Right, fine? Can we be honest?

814
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 3: That was a weird face off yesterday, Right, I've been

815
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: trying to Zapruder and I understand what happened.

816
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: They had a weird touching thing. Here's what I think.

817
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 2: I think Tank, who he has been sort of like

818
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: happy and weird and kind of like just chill, and

819
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: I think he was doing like a playful like you know,

820
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: like this, and I think he actually I think when

821
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: he shoved Garcia then it kind of became real like

822
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: Hector wasn't sheriff.

823
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: So Hector put his fists up into Hector Hector was

824
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: like this, yeah, pushing him away.

825
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Right, but he was also ready to fight.

826
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: But I think, you know afterwards, by the way they

827
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: hugged and laughed and did all that.

828
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: But I think in that moment, Bob Santos and Calvin

829
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: Fort have a good relationship and scene.

830
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: I think in that moment it almost got you know,

831
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: the spirit of getting real was there suddenly out of nowhere.

832
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: And I don't think that was Tank's intention, or was

833
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: it like I'm trying to get a full.

834
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 3: Read, here's my read. Tank to me looked loose yesterday.

835
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: Maybe a little too loose. I don't quite know. Fucking

836
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 3: Hector Luis Garcia looked all business, yeah, and Bob Santos

837
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: looked all business. We've been saying this since they announced

838
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: this fight, since they announced this fight. I'm like, dude,

839
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: this is not a tune up fight. Maybe it's a

840
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: fight that Tank should win, but it is not a

841
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: tune up fight. Hector Luis Garcia is good. He is good.

842
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: And did I not say it? Did he look to

843
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: you like the guy moving up from one thirty?

844
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: No, he looked like I told you, man.

845
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: And by the way that Facebook post that Hector Garcia did, okay,

846
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: was that racist?

847
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: That?

848
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: Look? Basically it was Hector Garcia standing on stage. I

849
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: think it was at last pres Cono was at the

850
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: initial press.

851
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: He was in a suit.

852
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: All the other fighters, including Gervonte, were dressed more than

853
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: casual clothes, and he made a comment that essentially said,

854
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: trans from Spanish.

855
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: Was I look like an attorney with my clients. Yeah,

856
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: And that started to get spread around Twitter.

857
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: Well, Tank brought it up at the press conference, and

858
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: that was when he got serious for a second, just

859
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: to let don't.

860
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: Let anybody fool you.

861
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm not saying that Hector Luis Garcia

862
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: is racist, because there is a way to say. Was

863
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: he just talking about the clothes. If you're just talking

864
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 3: about the clothes, then the joke still works. But you know,

865
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: making no mistake like racism in Latin America is alive and.

866
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Well either way, it's created an added edge to this,

867
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: as Gervonte said there but look, look, this is a

868
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: case where boxing odds are boxing odds.

869
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: This is not what the odds tell you.

870
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: Dravonte minus sixteen hundred, the favorite plus eight hundred, Hector

871
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: Luis Garcia. It's just not But there are stylistically x'es,

872
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: and those why's legitimate questions that both will have to answer,

873
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: but particularly Garcia, even though he looked big in the

874
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: face off against Tank and we have throw over. Tank

875
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: can fight multiple divisions, but he's always going to kind

876
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: of look like the smaller man because you know, he

877
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: doesn't change his height when he goes in each division.

878
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: He's a short fighter who's skilled and able to close

879
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: that distance. Garcia is moving up from one point thirty

880
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: where he won a championship belt last year against Roger Grudierrez,

881
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: fresh off that upset of Chris Colbert giving him his

882
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: first loss, and he has put together I believe, the

883
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: remnants and the foundation of his amateur background twenty sixteen

884
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: Olympian for the Dominican Republic with the style he started

885
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: to impose when he did turn pro, which was aggressive,

886
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: high volume, get in your face. He's marriage that gap

887
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: together where if you look at these highlights against Chris Colbert, Yes,

888
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: he had to take big punches from Colbert in key moments.

889
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: That's part of the danger when you operate at punching

890
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: distance in front of a man. But the craft that

891
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: he showed, the angles, the variety of punches, the gas tank,

892
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: the intention. He can be a problem if he's able

893
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: to start going downhill against you and controlling those terms,

894
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: and if he can wear down your gas tank or

895
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: just put extra pressure on you to be able to

896
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: get his shots off in land.

897
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: Dude, Colbert is Jesus Christ.

898
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: But Luke Thomas, if he cannot take Jervonte's power, then

899
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: the entire equation changes. And that seems to be why,

900
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: even though I give Calvin Ford and Gravontae David so

901
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: much respect for it, telling everybody, Okay, we're building toward

902
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: the Ryan fight, but Hector's the truth. We know he's

903
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: coming on, we know how good he is. But they

904
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: also know that they have the biggest weapon in the

905
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: fight at the end of the day. When it comes

906
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: to the power that Dravonte can can create with both hands,

907
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: but particularly with that left hand, and he can do

908
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: it in uppercuts from distances, darting in and out. It's

909
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: gonna be something when we see early can Hector Luis Garcia,

910
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 2: who I believe is coming in no matter what it takes,

911
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: all in to win, willing to get knocked out. Call

912
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: the Fiasta is going after this. I believe that they've

913
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: said that. But power can discipline and change an opponent,

914
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: especially early in the fight. What do you think about

915
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: that equation? What's it gonna look like in those first

916
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: two three rounds when Dravante starts picking up the timing

917
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: and he does land big.

918
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: I actually think the first few rounds Gravante is gonna lose.

919
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: I think that Hector Luis is not. I mean I

920
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: think that I don't know. Again, he is not a brawler. Brawler,

921
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: that's not really what he is. You saw in there

922
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 3: at range kind of just out dueling a little bit.

923
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: Chris colbertan some of that footage.

924
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: Crafty movement with the hat and his.

925
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: Lead hand movement is very clever where you can't te

926
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: if he's gonna jap to the body or come over

927
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 3: the top or if the other left hand's gonna come

928
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: through because he's blinding you with it. He is a

929
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: crafty guy. He'll brawl with you a little bit if

930
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: he has to. I don't think that I think you're

931
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: gonna get dude.

932
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

933
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: You could say what you want about Davonte, and he

934
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 3: is not like the most capable public speaker, but he's

935
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: a thoughtful boxer. I will say that he's a thoughtful boxer,

936
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: and he saw on the Roly Romero fight he kind

937
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 3: of let Roly do a little bit of the leading

938
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: at first, especially to get him comfortable, but also because

939
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: he told me to my face he's like, dude, Roway's

940
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: got power.

941
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: Like you can say what you want about ROI. The

942
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: duke can thump a little bit. He said he got

943
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: he said he felt the power. He thought.

944
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: He's like, Okay, this duke can crack a little bit,

945
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 3: So we need to be careful about that. I think

946
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: Garcia doesn't represent that kind of threat, but he's a

947
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: crafty guy. You cannot just come out bulldozing against him

948
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: unless you really think he's just gonna crumble under the pressure.

949
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: And I don't think they'd be a bad strategy. I

950
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: think that Gervante has to take over in the middle

951
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 3: rounds a little bit. That's where you're gonna see the

952
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: difference when the power begins to accumulate. I also think

953
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: bodywork is going to be interesting with Dravonte Davis. He's

954
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: got good hands out.

955
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: Before keep saying that always.

956
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: Body work is something you're gonna want to watch from

957
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: Dravante because it's not he can listen look what he

958
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 3: did to Leo Santa Cruz.

959
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: I mean he blew his fucking head off.

960
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: There's a scamage of Tank against Romero.

961
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can see what he can do.

962
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: He can one punch ko anybody in this weight class,

963
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: no problem. But I also think the body work to

964
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: slow a guy down who's a volume puncher like Garcia,

965
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: that is gonna be critical here won't be as critical

966
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: necessarily against the guy like Ryan Garcia. Against Hector Garcia,

967
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: I think it'd be hugely valuable.

968
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: And Garcia, it's just to me, it's gonna come down to.

969
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna be daring enough, but can he

970
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: either absorb the power of Dravante and be able to

971
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: still implement his game plan and make adjustments and create

972
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 2: ebbs and flows of style changes and adjustments there, which

973
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: is really the chest that breaks out. He's got those skills,

974
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: he can do that, but that durability has to be

975
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: there because Davante's power is different. But you know, Hector Garcia,

976
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: we were not talking about him a year ago. Nobody

977
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: was luke. He had only fought one fight past eight rounds.

978
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: As of a year ago, and then he has those

979
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: two big wins Colbert and Gutierrez. He's a champion at

980
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: one thirty and now he's moving up with the idea

981
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: of this is my chance to become a star, this

982
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: is my chance to do very big things. Trainer Bob Santos,

983
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: who would have probably been the trainer of the year

984
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: if Dereck James hadn't had that extra victory with Frank Martin,

985
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: which really seemed to steal it for most people. Currently,

986
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: Bob's got three champions, all from the Dominican Republic in

987
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: the stable and the relationship between the two, I believe it.

988
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: I liked what the message that they put out there

989
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, which was we are or Thursday, we are

990
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: willing to go there if you know to win this

991
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: don't like don't you know you better believe that we

992
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: are willing to go there. I think Gravante knows that.

993
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 2: But damn what happens if it does go there? Luke,

994
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 2: that's where it's gonna give.

995
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: Very wo And Also, I think Bob Santos has been

996
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: the most interesting public speaker so to speak this week.

997
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: Listen if he's asked about Gervonte Davis BC, tell me

998
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: out tell the audience if I'm lying. He gives Jervonte

999
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: all the props, calls him a pound for pound talent,

1000
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: says he's not just big power. We know he's crafty,

1001
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: we know he's good. Bob Santos has convinced me that

1002
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 3: this fight is going to be much more competitive than

1003
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: I think other people will no.

1004
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: That I don't know.

1005
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if Garcilla is gonna win, but Santos

1006
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: is so clear eyed about the challenge. They're not downgrading

1007
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: Tank in any capacity whatsoever. What they feel like is

1008
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 3: not that Tank is some kind of easy takings there

1009
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 3: for whoever wants it, rather that their guy can rise

1010
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: to the occasion to take on something so difficult and

1011
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: unique and powerful. They are very, very understanding of what

1012
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: they are up against. They just believe their guy can

1013
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 3: do it. And in a very honest, straightforward, nobs kind

1014
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: of grounded way, he's convincing. He's convince I do believe

1015
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: that Garcia is going to have something for Tank enough

1016
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: to win.

1017
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I think he has the right

1018
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: mental toughness that amateur history fought between three hundred and

1019
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: four hundred fights went to the Olympics, has done international tournaments,

1020
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 2: fought every kind of style.

1021
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: That's not the problem.

1022
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 2: I think the problem for me is when Tank notches

1023
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: it up, when he uses the data he collects. To

1024
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: your point, Floyd used to do the same thing, right, really, study,

1025
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: give away a couple of rounds, figure it out, and

1026
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: then begin the attack. That's going to be the moment

1027
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: of truth and the fight can go. You know a

1028
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: few different ways in there, very good or very bad

1029
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: for Garcia. But Tank has bigger fish to fry. I

1030
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: think mentally, I expect to see a sharp Tank.

1031
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: I do.

1032
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't discount what all of other stuff, but I do.

1033
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: And the reason why, Luke, He's going to walk into

1034
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: arena that as of yesterday had sold sixteen thousand tickets,

1035
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: the ticket sales with, as you mentioned, not a ton

1036
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: of advertisement.

1037
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: In the local area. I've seen none.

1038
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: It sold itself from the beginning because Jervonte is that

1039
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: rare attraction. If he comes out to an audience that

1040
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: still puts that poores that love on him and he

1041
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: rises to the the big moment, which he has a

1042
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: pension for doing, he could provide that knockout that takes

1043
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: you on a road right down the streets to Ryan Garcia.

1044
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: That road, by the way, still has potential pitfalls with

1045
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: a looming court date and all everything going on with that.

1046
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: And make no mistake, but let's see if he can

1047
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: put it together. Like we mentioned, how Floyd you should

1048
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: you just turn off the outside world and go handle

1049
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: his business. Prediction time, though, Luke, how does it end?

1050
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: I think Tank eventually gets it done. I think he

1051
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: gets it done late. Here's another fact about Tank Davis's power.

1052
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 3: It carries late. We've seen it multiple times. We know

1053
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: he can thump well into the last few rounds, no problem.

1054
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: I think that's where the difference will be had. I

1055
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: really believe similar to not exactly the same, but in

1056
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: the sense that Caleb Plant was able to take away

1057
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: a lot of what Canelo did early, not that he

1058
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: was able to get a whole lot of good offense going,

1059
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: but he made Canelo work for it. Does that sound fair?

1060
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: He made Canelo work for it. I think Garcia is

1061
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: gonna make Tank work for it. But Tank's power, his

1062
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: fine ARQ is pretty good, really, it actually really is.

1063
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: And so when you combine those two, he's just too

1064
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 3: devastating a puncher with too many smarts to carry him through.

1065
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: This is not Deontay Wilder, who's got big power, but

1066
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: maybe not the rest of the fight. IQ Tanks got it.

1067
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: He's too much to handle.

1068
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, all things equal, Tank will win this fight.

1069
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: I think though, if there's some level of compromise and

1070
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 2: focus or what have you. I mean, look what Hector

1071
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: Garcia does right when he's allowed to go downhill and

1072
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: just pour on the pressure and not worry about gassing

1073
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: himself out because he knows he has the guest tank

1074
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: despite not having a long history of going twelve rounds.

1075
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: He could take you if you're not exactly who you

1076
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: need to be in that moment, and shake you up

1077
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: and put that pressure on you. Let's see if Davante

1078
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: Davis can swim in that deep end. He's shown it before.

1079
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 2: I believe he gets a late stoppage as well, Luke.

1080
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: I believe we come out of here expecting Hector Luis

1081
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Garcia's effort and his willingness to go big here.

1082
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: But you know what might happen this Garcia loses, but

1083
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: shows some vulnerabilities in Tank. That actually makes the fight

1084
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: against Ryan Garcia that much more intriguing possibility.

1085
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: All uh, look the undercard. We've been playing up the

1086
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: matchups and what we're looking forward to. And by the way,

1087
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: it's not just the pay per view main card that

1088
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: we're talking about.

1089
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: Here.

1090
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: You and I are going to be calling the showtime

1091
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: pay per view countdown prelim fights.

1092
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: Three of them.

1093
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: We're talking about unbeaten prospect Brandon Lee with the big

1094
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: power but coming off being knocked down in his last fight.

1095
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: We're talking about vid Ole Melnecki Junior, the twenty year

1096
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: old from from Less than Jake's High School in New Jersey.

1097
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the suburban, the suburbian Lily Whiteside of Newark.

1098
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's.

1099
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 2: I forgot the third guys in Marshall is the other

1100
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: young unbeaten prospect was the Trayvon Marshall. Yes, who will

1101
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: be also fighting in the opener, we'll be on the

1102
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: call Seawan West. Well, yes, we'll be set in the

1103
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: stage for the pay per view fights to come. But

1104
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: look that comin event, Karen Chucadzian is going to be

1105
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: the next one to step up to the rising Ton

1106
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: Boots Ennis. No need to remind people how great this

1107
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: kid could be. We always talk about it. Now it's

1108
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: time for him to meet a fighter who will be

1109
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: fighting in the US for the first time. Born in

1110
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: the Ukraine. I believe he fights out of Germany. These days,

1111
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: we don't know a ton about current Jucadian. You can

1112
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: watch the tape and you see a muscular guy who

1113
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: likes to get inside, likes to do some things there.

1114
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: In this interim, IBF Walterway tittle about this is about

1115
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: if Boots Ends can continue to raise that stock and

1116
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: just be that magician in there, but that magician that

1117
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: gets you out of there in a couple of rounds

1118
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: or less. Luke Thomas, what are you looking to see

1119
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: in the in the maturation growth, Because if you're gonna

1120
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: imagine this could be Boots cutting through like like nothing

1121
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: like he does. Okay, eventually there's gonna be Finally, there's

1122
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: gonna be some pushback in some area. Is it the

1123
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: pressure of Chucasian getting inside and making us, making Boots

1124
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: have to show a different gear? Is there that potential

1125
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: in here? Or could this be a showcase of everything

1126
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: we're talking about.

1127
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: I think Chukasian is gonna give a legitimate effort and

1128
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: might look good and around or two a moment or two.

1129
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: I just think that.

1130
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, Okay, So if the job of boxing,

1131
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: especially when you don't know a whole lot about your opponent,

1132
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: is over time problem solving, you have to sort of diagnose, right,

1133
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: you have to run diagnostic tests.

1134
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: What is he good at? What is he not?

1135
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: Dudejron Ennis just has too many tools in the in

1136
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: the tool belt to not figure this guy out. I

1137
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 3: don't know exactly what round that will be. It's hard

1138
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: to say, but it is. He is Thanos showing up

1139
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: on the on the ship of the the s Guardians

1140
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: and then you know, fucking snapping Loki's neck and telling

1141
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 3: everyone I am inevitable.

1142
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's inevitable.

1143
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: I don't I just cannot imagine a case where, you know,

1144
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 3: I could see a much more high level guy like

1145
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: Eryl Spence giving Boots some trouble.

1146
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: But some trouble that's that's that's like.

1147
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, it's trouble to the point of even

1148
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 3: beating him. But what I'm saying is like, legitimately making

1149
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 3: it difficult for him to problem I don't do. He's

1150
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: got way, way, way too many skills offensive and defensive.

1151
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: He is so smooth I just can't overstate this. I

1152
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: would be nothing would shock me more than Chekazi and

1153
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: giving him a hard time much less looking.

1154
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Cukazy has never fought in the US. He won his

1155
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: own fights up the ladder to be you know, in

1156
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: this sort of opportunity for the interim title, but he

1157
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: hasn't beaten anyone close to this level. So you know,

1158
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: it's up to Boots to not have any pitfalls, not

1159
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: step in any traps, but do exactly what he does

1160
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: because the stakes get massively huge. He wins this, He's

1161
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: the mandatory for Spence in like two alphabet organizations, and

1162
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 2: it's gonna come down to you know, probably unless Spence

1163
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 2: can make the Crawford fighter.

1164
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: Maybe. I don't know.

1165
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: Spence had a cryptic tweet right about April. Maybe he

1166
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 2: fights Keith Thurman.

1167
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1168
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: We'll have to see how that plays out, but he may.

1169
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: He may get to a point this calendar year where

1170
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: Aerospence has to either give up the belt or face Boots,

1171
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: you know, or pay Boots to wait so he can

1172
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: do the other big fight first. But Boots does feel inevitable.

1173
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: See if he gets through this, and we mentioned Demitrius

1174
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: Andre gonna make his PBC debut, also his move up

1175
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: to one hundred and sixty eight pounds after winning titles

1176
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: and two divisions in Luke. On paper, it looks like

1177
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: he should be Deman Nicholson, who has fought some big

1178
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: names but has taken lost. He was the first guy

1179
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: to take Edgar Burlanga the distance when Berlonga had that

1180
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: first round knockout streak. He's a tough out and he

1181
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: wanted to let people know yesterday at the press conference

1182
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: that let's not talk about Andreid versus Charlo or any

1183
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: other fun creative matchups. Dude, you got to come through

1184
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: me first. Booboo told us he prefers that though he

1185
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: did he wants a guy coming at him kind of

1186
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: angry and and.

1187
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: I you know, Demon's a local guy. I'm not sure

1188
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 3: how great his chances are. I'm excited about the Andred fight, right,

1189
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 3: new weight class, Yeah, new promotional home. You know, if

1190
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 3: he looks good, some great opportunities, as you've indicated a R.

1191
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: Morrel, we are awaiting.

1192
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: There's something like real fun because I thought that it

1193
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: was over for Andreid, like he was gonna do whatever

1194
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: he's going to do in his own and that was

1195
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: going to be it. He at thirty four. It's not

1196
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: too late. So you know, thirty four was when Michael

1197
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 3: Chandler went to UFC. Yep, you know you can still

1198
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: have at thirty four if you've taken care of yourself

1199
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: and it looks to be in pretty good condition.

1200
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: Dude, he missed.

1201
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 2: He missed a couple of years earlier in his career

1202
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: to get out of a promotional deal right, and then

1203
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: has been kind of active with his owne but just

1204
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: wasn't able to get the name. So he hasn't taken

1205
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: damager right thing right, He's he's stayed in shape, he

1206
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 2: just has been really had to wait his turn.

1207
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: It's kind of like a young thirty four in that way.

1208
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty excited for this one. And by the way,

1209
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: the guy Demon Nicholson was bitter. He was being like

1210
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: overlooked yesterday. This is his moment they had. They had

1211
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: the best face off yesterday, absolutely the best face off

1212
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 3: yesterday for sure.

1213
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: Now we ran into DeMont Nicholson's manager, the former UH

1214
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: light heavyweight contender top Dog Williams Junior, Thomas Williams Junior,

1215
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: and it was great to see him still back in

1216
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 2: the game. He made so many fun great fights at

1217
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: Donna Stevenson, that war with La Bamba and to see

1218
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: him a DMV guy, Washington, DC guy, come back now

1219
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: and get into managing. And he said his nine year

1220
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: old daughters is coming up in the amateur boxing ranks

1221
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: as well, so it's good to see that connection. We'll

1222
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: see if DeMont Nicholson can make can make the manager

1223
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: a winner here with a big opportunity against.

1224
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: Stu Boxing Town.

1225
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: You know what it is, it is, you know what

1226
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm I'm my two visent, my second visit, the family

1227
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 2: trip last year and now and I'm starting to fall

1228
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: in love with your city. The architecture, you know, the

1229
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: attitude of of the service professionals.

1230
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Dude, just because the baristas don't think you're funny doesn't

1231
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: mean they're mean.

1232
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: They've no sold my jokes. Many of people, cross section

1233
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: of all different types of people. This city has no

1234
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: sold me. Okay, that's fine.

1235
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: Now you understand me better.

1236
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess. I guess I do understand

1237
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: you a little bit better. And we didn't want to

1238
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: forget speedy Rashidi Ellis who almost got spent.

1239
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Boots.

1240
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: This fight talk trash on the dais with Boots trying

1241
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: to didn't do with us.

1242
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Didn't have a lot to say there.

1243
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: But he's got a tough out with royman Villa, the

1244
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 2: Venezuelan slugan we mentioned, with the neck tats, with the big.

1245
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: Time power, that fucking guy.

1246
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good fight.

1247
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good fight.

1248
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: There's a couple of guys in combat sports with you

1249
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: just don't want to get sideways with.

1250
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: He looks like one of them.

1251
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting like Ma Donna vibes, you know, I

1252
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: mean Matissa vibes. You know that's not He's not Argentina,

1253
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: but that idea of like, oh the Gauchos coming to town, okay,

1254
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: and he's coming down to from the.

1255
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: From the kaj in fucking Argentina. Bro.

1256
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 2: Remember that time Richard Chafer got on the show Timeke

1257
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: and interrupted Jim Gray after Matisa knocked out. Was it

1258
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: Mike Dallas And he was.

1259
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: Like, vaguely, remember we have a new.

1260
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: Many pak Yo and his name is Lucas the Machine Matis.

1261
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: That was just a great moment, just a great moment

1262
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: in boxing.

1263
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 3: Do you remember when what's his face? Told Mayweather he

1264
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 3: was if he was younger, he'd kick his out.

1265
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: March yeah, merchant that old as Yeah, that guy's still

1266
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: throwing punches in his nineties, I believe.

1267
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: Right at what the millman and shit, no, he's just

1268
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: still aggressively. Was he one of the.

1269
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: Guys who fought in that wah wah video that got

1270
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 3: taken down?

1271
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: Topic number three?

1272
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: Luke, it's Dana White related, and yay, the fallout, the

1273
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: fallout of our analysis, the fallout of the deafening silence

1274
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: that remains from the standpoint of the UFC ESPN parent

1275
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 2: company Endeavor. Nobody's talking at all, and people think we're

1276
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 2: journalists now we're witch hunting to try to get Dana fired.

1277
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: Not the case. You do want a certain level of

1278
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, communication and transparent and see of what's going on.

1279
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: But Luke tied into all this is that Dana White's

1280
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: supposed to launch his Dana White Power Slap League in

1281
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: what a week's time, And there was some reporting on

1282
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: Twitter that kind of confused us.

1283
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: At first.

1284
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 2: It looked like TBS was taking it off the books

1285
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: completely and canceling it, and obviously, who could blame them

1286
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: if it went that way, given Dana's issue with trading

1287
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: slaps with his wife in a domestic dispute and the

1288
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: timing of all of that. But now we find out

1289
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: that TBS is going to wait a week luke and

1290
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: put it out January eighteenth, to kind of let this

1291
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: all blow over. Yet what happened today Friday, January sixth,

1292
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: UFC acting like everything was back to normal on social media.

1293
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 2: Fucking Friday videos. We got commercials for the Power Slap League. Dicey, dicey,

1294
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 2: I mean, just it already to me. I mean, I'm

1295
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: not against people trying stuff, and you know there's like

1296
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: celebrity miniature golf shows out there and stuff. I mean,

1297
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: there's all kind of weird stuff out there, Okay, but

1298
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: it's such a there's no self awareness in launching this

1299
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 2: league to begin with, because the head trauma and the

1300
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: lack of defense, and now you time it with what happened, dude,

1301
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't even care in the end if Dana,

1302
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: you know, has to sit out it, it's fine. Gets

1303
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: fi that that's not even the thing.

1304
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: The thing is act.

1305
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Speaker 2: It's like a column I wrote in CBS Sports Overnight,

1306
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: is is if UFC does want to be considered on

1307
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: the platform level that they already are with this TV deal,

1308
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: which is making them basically a Big four pro sport.

1309
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: And they've lived up to that in recent years with

1310
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: the offerings and the big fights and the ratings and

1311
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: all that. But the response now after this very real

1312
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: situation that really can't be just passed up with that's

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: a private matter. Leave them the f alone to not

1314
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Speaker 2: even comment on it. And then you look at ESPN's.

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Speaker 1: Coverage of this across the board, from.

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00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: The Stephen A. Smith to the Molly Caaren reactions on

1317
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: First Take to the I don't see any stories written

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00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: at all like on this, you know what I mean?

1319
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: They don't care Jeff Waggenheim's tweet, which tease the idea

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00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: of there is there is there a gag order. No,

1321
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: there's not, but you know there are. I used to

1322
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: work at ESPN full disclosure, so there always typically is

1323
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: a directive of some degree about what is fair play

1324
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: on social media when big time things are going on

1325
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: affecting the company. Do you feel let down by ESPN

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00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: as an editorial entity.

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Speaker 3: I never took them seriously as an editorial entity, even

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00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 3: with the Greg Hardy stuff.

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Speaker 1: You saw this.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's just amazing that Greg Hardy is

1331
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: like a terrible villain. I mean, because what he did

1332
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: is terrible. I mean, it's not to say he shouldn't be,

1333
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: but you know, like Dana is already back on social

1334
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: media doing his gross food fucking porn thing when.

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Speaker 2: We just wanted to address it. We just want, like

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00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

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00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Like, that's the question I said this on Dan Levatard Show,

1338
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: repeated here, which is there was some belief certainly as

1339
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: the UFC left Spike and into Fox and then definitely

1340
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: into ESPN, which, by the way, they're in. They they

1341
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 3: signed two more years onto their deal, but the initial

1342
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: deal was five years. They were coming up on their

1343
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: five year anniversar right here in March for the initial deal,

1344
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: so like they would be up for a new deal.

1345
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: You we all thought that like that would meant, I, Okay.

1346
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna get the greater halo of the Disney ESPN

1347
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: properties and everything that comes with that. That might mean

1348
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: greater scrutiny. And it is, in fact the opposite that

1349
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: has happened. It has done nothing but enable them. I

1350
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: can't I don't have a great explanation for it other

1351
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 3: than to say, you know, I said this on Libtar's

1352
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 3: show as well. Kyrie Irving tweeted a link to this

1353
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 3: stupid anti Semitic conspiracy theory video that he found on Amazon,

1354
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: and there was wall to wall coverage about it on

1355
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: ESPN on everything about how terrible this was and whatnot.

1356
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: I'm not here to like challenge any of the coverage,

1357
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: but they got Dana on video hitting his wife, maybe

1358
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: even stomping on her a couple of times.

1359
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell me what.

1360
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: Dana did was less as bad, was better than what

1361
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: Kyrie did. I mean that seems to me fucking insane

1362
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: to think something like that. Their coverage is embarrassing such

1363
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 3: as it exists, but they don't exist that way. Listen,

1364
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: Jimmy Pataro can say whatever he wants about what ESPN's

1365
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: and ambissions and goals are as a journalistic entity. It's

1366
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: a fucking lie. Their goal is to be in these

1367
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: partnerships with the various entities that they are, the NBA,

1368
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: the NFL, whatever, and in certain cases, if the public

1369
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: will allow for it, they'll get in more journalistic work.

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Speaker 3: Journalistic work is done there, but they are not principally

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00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 3: a journalistic arm. They are a broadcast arm who will

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00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 3: protect the interest of their partners such as they are

1373
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: demanded or willing to do so. And that's the end

1374
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: of the story here. They're not going. You cannot go

1375
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: to them for journalism on this issue. You cannot go

1376
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: to them for an actual, fair, good word on this issue.

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00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: It doesn't exist.

1378
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: And the response might be the response might be, oh,

1379
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: they did cover it as a news story on Sports Center,

1380
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: and oh there was a new story written, but there's

1381
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: no detailed analysis.

1382
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: And the point at the end of the dayDay and

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00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, I mean point at the end of

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00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: the day.

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00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: I don't you know. And by the way, shout out

1386
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: to Wagenheim who quote tweeted the Steve Navido just to

1387
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: basically say, the attitude behind the scenes is not what

1388
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: you guys you know we are. We are as against

1389
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, the the fallout of this, what the story

1390
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: means and all that. And again I cannot stress this

1391
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: enough because you get so many responses of like, you know,

1392
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: you guys have always hated a day and to keep

1393
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: trying to get him out of his job. No, Dana's

1394
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 2: done great for this game. We want maturity. We want, dude,

1395
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: we know a whole lot. We want accountability, maturity, and transparency,

1396
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: which becomes expected when you raise the company to the

1397
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: level a billion dollar public company, when you get it

1398
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: to this level with an ESPN deal, which means it's

1399
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: in every barbershop and gym and in your living room

1400
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: with Sports Center and first take doing real UFC coverage.

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00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: So is the difference in the end, Luke? The reason

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00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: why ESPN didn't comment when Trent Reichsmith reached out and

1403
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: they basically said, no, we we distribute it. They do

1404
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: their own content. Is that actually the reason? Because the

1405
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: UFC broadcast is self contained from a production standpoint, and

1406
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: by the way, they do a great job, but they're

1407
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: they're also allowed to control the message within that. Yes,

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00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: once in a while you'll get Steven A. Smith showing

1409
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: up on a postgame or pregame or Michael Eves on

1410
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: the desk or whatever, but dude, this is a UFC operation.

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: What role does that play in in ESPN's ability to

1412
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: just be like, we don't really have to care about this, guys,

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00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: We just you know, we just we just stream it.

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00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: Dude. It's just bullshit.

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00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 3: I mean, to the extent they were pressured to do

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 3: something about it, they would. Here's the reality. The stakeholders

1417
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 3: in MMA don't care mostly about malfeasans the fans, there's

1418
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 3: a sizeable portion that do, but there's a very sizeable

1419
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: portion that not only think that's not a big deal.

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00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: Even though Dana White apologized for it, there's another group

1421
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: of people who feel like he's utterly justified, that it

1422
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 3: was even a good thing that he did what he did. Right,

1423
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 3: as long as that is the case, and let's just

1424
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 3: be honest about the MMA media has been super fucking cowardly, right,

1425
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: and you know exactly who I'm talking Okay.

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00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: Is it cowardly or is it the idea of an

1427
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: organated organized muzzle? Because do you look at a lot

1428
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: of people we love a ESPN and go, damn, their

1429
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: hands are Okay, hands are.

1430
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 3: Let me say this because I actually had someone reach

1431
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: out to me last night and make the same point

1432
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: who used to be a very successful manager in MMA.

1433
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: If you care about having a voice in this business,

1434
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: it is incumbent upon you to protect it.

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00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Right.

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00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: The corporations you work for are not going to protect

1437
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: it for you. I mean sometimes they can that that

1438
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: can happen. It is incumbent upon you. You have to

1439
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: build into your career as you take steps the kind

1440
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 3: of latitude and space, and frankly, the principle has to

1441
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: matter enough to you to actually build in the resources

1442
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 3: within your career to give you the freedom to say

1443
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: the kinds of things you need to say. And if

1444
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: you don't ever do that, and then it comes time

1445
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 3: to say something, you're like, well, my hands are tied.

1446
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: Your hands are tied because you didn't protect yourself. You

1447
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: did not protect yourself.

1448
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 3: You didn't It wasn't enough of a priority for you

1449
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 3: to have enough of an independent following or an independent

1450
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: voice for you to be able to have the latitude

1451
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: to do that.

1452
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: So, yes, I get that.

1453
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: Up to this point, if they're being told don't say shit,

1454
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: then you can't say shit.

1455
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: I get that. But let me just give a piece

1456
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 1: of advice to everyone out there.

1457
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 3: It is your job to build into your career the

1458
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 3: protections in guardrails you need in order to say what

1459
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: you want to say. No one's gonna give that to you.

1460
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: You have to do that yourself, So go do it.

1461
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: Go right. Here's like, here's.

1462
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: The so see there is something to think about here,

1463
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 3: which is the kind of counter to this, which is,

1464
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 3: let me make two points. One, on the one hand,

1465
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: were like, what is the.

1466
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: Media's role here.

1467
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 3: It's a great question because if you look at why

1468
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: the rumble in the Jumble Jungle excuse me took place

1469
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: in zaiyear, it was because Don King was having trouble

1470
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 3: raising funds for the fight, and Mobutu sese Seko was

1471
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 3: like all too happy to offer up the funds in

1472
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 3: order to sports wash the image of his horrible regime basically,

1473
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: and so that's why the fight was there. In other words,

1474
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: this this kind of thing where we just accept gross

1475
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: characters into the sport and we don't ever want to

1476
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: police anyone's behavior and any even on basic shit. This

1477
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 3: has been happening long before you and I were even born. Yes, right,

1478
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: so there is some reality there. On the other hand,

1479
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: this is my point, and I want to you can

1480
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: go back and look at what I said to LeBatard,

1481
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: and I'll say it again here. We have not called

1482
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: for Dana's job. Have you noticed that we have not

1483
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 3: called for it? Because I actually don't even know if

1484
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 3: that's the right call. Here's my point. They won't do anything.

1485
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: They won't mention it, and the silence is insulting.

1486
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: They won't do anything. I'm not calling for Dana's job

1487
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 3: because I don't know. I literally, I genuinely do not

1488
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: know if that's the right answer. I don't know. But

1489
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: what I do know is you're not gonna do anything.

1490
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: You're not gonna say anything. You're not even gonna make

1491
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: a public comment. It's this is the province of cowards.

1492
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: You have to say something, you have to say something.

1493
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: And they won't say or do anything.

1494
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 2: If if TBS not ESPAM, but if TBS had canceled

1495
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: the Power Slap League, that's saying something at least.

1496
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: Right in a very modest I mean, I think it's

1497
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: gonna fall on its own face because it's fucking stupid.

1498
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 3: But but I even listen, I asked me what I

1499
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: I told you. I'll repeal what I said the libertady.

1500
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 3: I think a suspension is in order. I do think

1501
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 3: a suspension is an order. He should be removed from

1502
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: the product.

1503
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: For you.

1504
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: Kevin not only thinks one month just kind of you know,

1505
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: probably a little rest of the job.

1506
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: Probably a little longer than that.

1507
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 3: But I did not call for his job because I

1508
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 3: don't know if this kind of thing, I don't know

1509
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 3: what the right answer is, and the public should have

1510
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 3: some say about it. But the fact that the stakeholders

1511
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: in play won't do anything. You guys think I we're

1512
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 3: calling for him to be fired. We haven't. We're just

1513
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 3: saying between nothing and fired, there's nothing in between.

1514
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: No. I want communication, you know, I want all that

1515
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 2: stuff I just laid out before, you know, be uh,

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01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: be transparent with us. But Luke, I did want to

1517
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: address one thing, which is, you know, we gave our

1518
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: honest takes about this the other day, and there's passion,

1519
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: and there's prior history baked into a certain degree, and

1520
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: tried not to make it all about ourselves. But I

1521
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: guess sometimes that does feel inevitable. But there was a

1522
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: lot of people, you know, fighting back on the the

1523
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: breakdown of who first? God do I hate that? But

1524
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 2: I want to focus purposely on all the people that did,

1525
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: because we try to be as.

1526
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: Transparent as possible about while we're covering about about why

1527
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 3: we're covering.

1528
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have it. Here's the deal. There's a few

1529
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: deals at the end of the day. What makes this different?

1530
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: You know, the fact that the Javante situation was actually

1531
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: was legal action taken. And now there's even this dispute

1532
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: of could the charges be drop based on the result

1533
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: that which is a lot gray area to begin with.

1534
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: But what's one difference between him and Dana Gravante got

1535
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: fucking arrested.

1536
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in the narrative.

1537
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, the narrative had already been that

1538
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: Dravante is this bright star of a of an athlete

1539
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: and crossover entertainer, but has to clean up what's going on.

1540
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: That's already been the narrative, which we've covered every stop

1541
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 2: along the way. But the idea of how could you

1542
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: hypocrites then take money to go work on it? Because

1543
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: this is my job. It's not just my passion, but

1544
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: this is what I do. This is the best, you know,

1545
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: Like like Liam Neeson and Taken, I do have a

1546
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 2: particular set of skills and this is the best way

1547
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: to utilize that in the game I love. But the

1548
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: games that I love, boxing and MMA are dirtiest shit.

1549
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: In some ways, they are a reflection of life to

1550
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: a certain degree, but they're also this is like being

1551
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: in tattooine and and you know, we're most icely spaceport

1552
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: where they're just you know, the dirtiest, rotten scoundrels in

1553
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: the game. And I want to do my job, but

1554
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: do my job the best way I can, which is

1555
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: like we try to do on here, being as upfront

1556
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,479
Speaker 2: and honest and critical as best we can. But even

1557
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: just like the ESPN people, you still work for certain

1558
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: people and have to do things the right way. And

1559
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: I don't think this in exact scenario is perfectly crossed

1560
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: because one man is an athlete and and one man

1561
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: is a billionaire leader of a of a of a

1562
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: publicly traded company, and no one's talking about it. No

1563
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: one wants to talk about it.

1564
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: So it's just.

1565
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: We talked about him on here, We talked behind the

1566
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: scenes with people of what's really going on. We did

1567
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 2: our own, but we also are we also this is

1568
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: our job to do and if I tried to take

1569
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: some kind of lane on well, I'll never you know,

1570
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: work and when this person is performing because of this,

1571
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: you wouldn't work in combat sports or life in general

1572
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 2: if that was your stance on the people around.

1573
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: So you know, just look around right now. So right

1574
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 3: now we have the Dana White issue. We have the

1575
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: Jervonte Davis issues. We have MMA in boxing. You have

1576
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 3: the Greg Burholter issue where he apparently had kicked his

1577
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: they got ended up getting married, but when he was

1578
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 3: in college, Greg Berholter is the coach of the US

1579
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 3: men's national team in soccer. He had basically assaulted his

1580
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 3: law now wife then girlfriend some time ago.

1581
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: You have the coach of the.

1582
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 3: Texas men's battle I believe the Texas men's basketball team

1583
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 3: for arrested for and fired by the way, fired for now.

1584
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: That's a really bad one.

1585
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: Felony assault allegedly on his girlfriend, I believe. So we

1586
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: are surrounded by it. And let's just say this too,

1587
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 3: and this is a sad reality, and this is why

1588
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 3: we are. This is where we are complicit to a degree, right,

1589
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: And I think you have to own up to this.

1590
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 3: If you tried to have a boxing or MMA promotion

1591
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: where you'd said we are never going to work with

1592
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: anyone who's ever been arrested or convicted of domestic abuse,

1593
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 3: you'd go out of business in a year.

1594
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: Wait. But on top of that, that's not our job.

1595
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: On top of our job is to be critical of

1596
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: the news cycle and what's happening and the decision is

1597
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: being made. But our job isn't like to judge on

1598
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: the level where it's like I can't even be associated

1599
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: with that. No, I have a job to do.

1600
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. We're going to cover John Jones when

1601
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: he comes back.

1602
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: Where were we win Floyd got God, had his own

1603
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: missteps and went to jail covering it? Right where were

1604
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 2: we when John Jones was covering it? That's our job.

1605
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: We're also covering this event, what happens in the ring

1606
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: and outside of it.

1607
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: So hold on, let's let's let's say what is the

1608
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 3: difference between Tank situation and danus because if we need

1609
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 3: to have this out for just a second. Number one,

1610
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: you can believe who you want to believe Tank maintains

1611
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 3: is in a sense Dana does not.

1612
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I would say.

1613
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: Also, my understanding is this whole ordeal about whether this

1614
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 3: event should have taken place went up to the highest

1615
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 3: levels of the company, and we're not privy to these details,

1616
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 3: but they believe that there are enough exonerating circumstances to

1617
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 3: let it go forward. But were My understanding is they

1618
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: they had some kind of discussion about it. Now, maybe

1619
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: you think this event shouldn't have gone forward, and you

1620
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 3: don't want to support it, strongly encourage you not to

1621
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 3: if that's in accordance with your beliefs. Dude, I don't

1622
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: think Tank Davis is in any way a boy scout.

1623
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 3: What he allegedly did is fucking gross. And by the way,

1624
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say one more time that dude has a

1625
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: jury of his fucking peers who are going to bear

1626
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: down on him next month. Next month, we're an alleged

1627
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 3: hit and run on a pregnant woman. We are not

1628
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 3: shying away or not talking about any of these details

1629
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 3: at all. We'll talk about all of them here and

1630
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 3: tell you exactly how I feel. Do you feel a

1631
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 3: little conflicted covering someone like this in this particular situation

1632
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 3: whatever happened in Florida, Yes, yes, of course you do. Yes,

1633
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 3: you feel that way. Whether you think there are meaningful

1634
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 3: differences between Tank and Jervonte, I don't know. But the

1635
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 3: reality is, if you're gonna work in this business, everyone

1636
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: who wants to be on their moral high horse.

1637
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: About it, including media, you got to take a step back.

1638
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: These are the people who fist fight for a living

1639
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 3: to an extent, and there are some limits that should

1640
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: be enforced. We have not called for Dana White's head.

1641
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 3: All you have to do is be honest about what

1642
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 3: has happened, be honest about how you feel about it,

1643
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 3: and act in accordance with your principles and values.

1644
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: That's the best we can do.

1645
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. But I do think, you know, which is

1646
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: sort of the summation of the story I wrote for

1647
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: CBS Sports on it. It's just like when you package

1648
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 2: everything together during this news cycle for the UFC, which

1649
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: still can still involves the fighter pay situation, still involves

1650
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 2: the gambling fallout, and how those two stories do intersect

1651
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: from the idea of pre existing injuries and whether people

1652
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 2: just fight through it just to get the surgery paid for,

1653
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: mixed with all of the big deals, mixed with the

1654
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 2: idea that data behind the scenes and UFC are publicly,

1655
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: you know, legislatively campaigning to try to limit the fighter's

1656
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: rights as much as they legally can in every possible way. Right,

1657
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: aren't they aren't they aren't they purpose lobbying against their

1658
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: right to.

1659
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 3: Uh, yes, get lobby against the ALI Act. Yes, they're

1660
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 3: gonna try and do their best to kill.

1661
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: It, but are essentially doing everything possible to make it

1662
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 2: as hard as possible for unionization and all that.

1663
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 3: Yes, then you know, and in fact they I think

1664
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 3: they called in some favors.

1665
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: With an next.

1666
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: So my point is this, you have enough of these

1667
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: unresolved issues that are all attached to it right now.

1668
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: It's not gonna sink the UFC tomorrow. Things aren't gonna

1669
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: get shut down. But if the company in general and

1670
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: Dana as the leader, don't start acting in a more

1671
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: mature way, like I don't think you're gonna You're gonna

1672
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: stay in this lofty spot on an ESPN deal, in

1673
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: in every barbershop and gym and in this type of

1674
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: coverage and handling because you're not showing the maturity level

1675
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 2: of the responsibilities of what how you need to be.

1676
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: And to me, that maturity level is the train conspiracy.

1677
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 2: And is the you know, is the honesty in things,

1678
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: and and we don't see that under this regime. And

1679
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of great that Dana White brings to

1680
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 2: the fight game, and I don't want to see that

1681
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: to change.

1682
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: I do want to see the accountability.

1683
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 3: As one last question, and we can move on from this.

1684
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 3: We're saying we don't know what the people in power

1685
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: should do about Dana, but they should do something.

1686
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, what should the people in power do about Tank Davis? Same?

1687
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: So if we ask the exact same question, what should

1688
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: it BBC.

1689
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 2: I think they haven't killed the event. Uh not in

1690
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 2: this situation. I understand their decision and and it wasn't

1691
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: an easy one, and it was one that had a

1692
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 2: lot of factors involved. But in this particular situation, I

1693
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: think it's too much of a gray area right here.

1694
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: Not to remove doubt from Jervonte' name. He's lost in

1695
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 2: the court of publican opinion that the benefit of the doubt.

1696
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 2: That's not the direction we're going, but to the idea

1697
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: of just you know, no, this isn't cut and dry,

1698
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 2: this entire situation. So this was the decision that made

1699
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: and we're moving forward.

1700
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: But again, it's just that they won't say anything, they

1701
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 3: won't do anything, they won't come down.

1702
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: The silence is definitely it's saying that it doesn't matter

1703
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: what they're either saying and I don't truly believe they're

1704
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: saying this, but it's basically them saying that domestic violence

1705
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I don't think that's their intention, but that's

1706
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 2: that's what it comes out. And then what you're also

1707
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: saying is our business relationships trump any level of morals

1708
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: or ethics and transparency on all the sides. And that's

1709
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: that's that's the reason why you need watchdogs, Luke, and

1710
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be a watchdog. The reason why you

1711
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: need it is because we all live in this pool.

1712
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 2: Don't ship where you eat, right, we all this is

1713
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: where I make my money. This is how I feed

1714
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: my family in this game. We got to get past this,

1715
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: this this caveman ways of operation. Fighters who enter into

1716
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: this dangerous game need to have a foundational structure where

1717
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: they're taking care of where they can afford training camps,

1718
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: where they can afford surgeries like this is why you

1719
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: do need people knocking on the door who have the

1720
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: right platform to do that. So damn, I mean, enough

1721
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 2: of this shadow business, enough of this. I mean, ESPN's

1722
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: in some ways the most respected journalistic entity in you know,

1723
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: in terms of established ways in sports media, and look

1724
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: at this response.

1725
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: It's it's wild. It's wild to me.

1726
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: But I think I just feel like, you know, I

1727
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 3: don't know what's gonna happen with this slap league. I

1728
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 3: think it'll die on its own, but you know, we'll see.

1729
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 3: But I just want to be clear about this, like

1730
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: people in like in combat sports, I made this point before.

1731
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: You know, you can look at a situation like the

1732
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,440
Speaker 3: World Cup where you have this incredible amount of moral devastation,

1733
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: where all these migrant workers are killed and they have

1734
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: the World Cup and everyone is party to it. But

1735
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 3: you have you have these influences in various levels without

1736
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 3: within soccer, I should say that push back against these

1737
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 3: kinds of you know, evil forces, basically in combat sports,

1738
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 3: that doesn't exist very much. People are just welcoming of

1739
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 3: bad actors rams on Cadira for example, people who are

1740
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 3: welcoming of bad behavior, dropping the N word, constantly hitting

1741
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 3: your girlfriend, whatever, having insane attitudes about women, you name it.

1742
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: And there just is not nearly as much pushback, not

1743
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 3: from the media. This week, you haven't seen very much,

1744
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: not from the fighters very much. I mean the fighters

1745
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 3: have been bending over backwards Defendanta, which is fucking amazing.

1746
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: And dude, the people try to make this political. What

1747
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: where's the politics in this? I get the fuck out

1748
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 1: of you.

1749
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not even on the side you

1750
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: think I'm on to begin with, as if that matters,

1751
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: I mean, is there a human side to Let's be real.

1752
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: For a second, if that had been Colin Kaepernick, or

1753
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 3: let's even make it for mma, if that had been

1754
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 3: John Jones on video getting slapped by her girlfriend and

1755
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 3: then retaliating the way John Jones did or Colin Kaepernick.

1756
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 3: Do you think you fucking frauds would be telling us

1757
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,480
Speaker 3: it's justified.

1758
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: Go fuck yourself, you liar. You're a liar.

1759
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 3: You're a liar who can't be honest about the principle

1760
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 3: of things. You're a fucking liar who says things like, well,

1761
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,839
Speaker 3: he was totally justified. You would turn on John Jones

1762
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 3: or Colin Kaepernick if they did something like that in

1763
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: a fucking second. You fraud, and I see through every

1764
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: fucking one of you for exactly what you are. I

1765
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: don't take your opinion on this seriously at all, and

1766
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 3: neither does anybody else with a fucking mammalian brain.

1767
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: Go fuck yourself. It's just such a fraudulent argument.

1768
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: They would turn on someone they didn't like who did

1769
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 3: that in a fucking instant.

1770
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe how an instant. I can't believe how.

1771
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 2: Much is exposed. This This just old school bro method

1772
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: of I don't care who hits me, you know, child,

1773
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: the disabled person, an elderly person, whatever.

1774
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 1: It's open season in your own marriage.

1775
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: And you know, no one is actually defending Dana White's wife.

1776
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: Nobody.

1777
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: It's not mutually exclusive that if you have this one

1778
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: side of the take.

1779
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 3: She has a lot to answer for here too. She's

1780
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 3: got serious fucking problems.

1781
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not automatic in that regard that that

1782
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: you lean this way and then you support this side of.

1783
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: It, right, I mean, Dana was unaccepted. You know what

1784
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 1: I support.

1785
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: I support humanity, and I support that you know, what

1786
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: a real man does. And and look that that was

1787
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: Dana's instinctive reaction was to not just counter, but then

1788
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: get risk control, counter again and then forcibly, that was

1789
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: the natural in public fight or flight reaction. Uh, that's

1790
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: okay with people. That's how you're wired or or or

1791
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: is it more you know, because people go, hey, BC

1792
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 2: and Luke, like you guys are great all this you

1793
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: know hero stuff here, but like what happens when your

1794
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: wife slaps you in public? Do I have enough love

1795
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 2: for her not to retal? Because that's that's the foundation

1796
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: of my response there, like my protection and love for

1797
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: the people that I've choose to live the rest of

1798
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: my life with, the people that that go to war

1799
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: with me in life's in life's what do you call

1800
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 2: that in the military when you go back to back

1801
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: with somebody in the h in the bunker there. You

1802
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, because because I've because I'm no

1803
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 2: you know, like you know, I've been through life ship

1804
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: with my family. This is a life and death relationship.

1805
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 2: We're going the distance together. I love them enough never

1806
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: to feel the need as a man to want to

1807
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 2: counter and strike back. Never did we say it gives

1808
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 2: latitude for women to go on the offensive. That's not

1809
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: what this is about. I hope they fix their their

1810
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: their family based on on what happened. I that's that's

1811
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 2: the goal and and goal for me, not anything else

1812
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: or not any other way around. And if it happened

1813
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 2: to me, Luke, I'd be looking be looking to fix things,

1814
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 2: not break them even worse.

1815
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1816
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 3: Also, you know, I'll just say this is a general rule.

1817
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 3: I don't know their marriage and the the private parts

1818
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 3: of their marriage. That was a public event. He's a

1819
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: public figure, so that's why we're having some discussion. But

1820
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 3: the private parts is not your business, not my business.

1821
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 3: But you know, I have a feeling that that, you know,

1822
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 3: the idea that the very first time that they laid

1823
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 3: hands on each other it was caught in camera.

1824
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: I don't really believe that.

1825
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 3: And so if there are broader issues and against and

1826
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 3: if you know they both and and her especially like

1827
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 3: what she did is utterly unacceptable. You don't ever put

1828
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 3: your hands like that on another person.

1829
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: Fuck no.

1830
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 3: But but those are not equivalent situations, much as you

1831
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 3: want to make them one.

1832
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, uh luke, let's transition here as

1833
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 2: we uh let me let blood it breathe for a second,

1834
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: and you got any I wish I.

1835
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: Had a vape? Dude? Are you proud of me? Seriously?

1836
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 1: For what for? Not vape? And you haven't seen me

1837
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: vape one time?

1838
01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,799
Speaker 2: For taking a stand for humanity?

1839
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: Not?

1840
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: I am proud of you in that regard because while

1841
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: you did add tremendous comedy to twenty twenty two with

1842
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: your dirt whole side habit it, I don't know it

1843
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: kept you happy and it produced you know, just comedic

1844
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: miracles time and again. I mean it was just the

1845
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 2: most It was the lowest hanging fruit with the sweetest

1846
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 2: taste in Poontang.

1847
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: You know, it really was amazing. Yeah wow, all.

1848
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: Right, Lucas we kick off the new year, we wanted

1849
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: to remind the people of our favorite sponsor, Money Lion,

1850
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: and this Hammer of the Month movement we've got going on.

1851
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 2: You remember Aaron Blanchfield, You remember Elia Taporia. You guys

1852
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: voted along with us, and every month we do this

1853
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 2: when we look at the undercards or those kicking off

1854
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: the main card and combat sports who are making their

1855
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: presence known breakthrough moments. If you're coming on, come on,

1856
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: they are coming on, Luke, So be on the lookout

1857
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: as we head into boxing this weekend, the return of

1858
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: mixed martial arts in the new calendar year. Use that

1859
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 2: hashtag Hammer of the Month, use that hashtag Holy Hammer,

1860
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: and go to moneyline dot com slash Morning Combat. You

1861
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: can see the QR code there for more information about

1862
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 2: the award. The physical hammer Luke gets awarded. We gave

1863
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: it to Aaron Blanchfield in person on the Room service

1864
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: des diaries. I need an update on where Aliataporia is

1865
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:16,879
Speaker 2: going to receive his uh, his his hammer yeah, stop

1866
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: hammer time it's money he.

1867
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: Goes the hammer.

1868
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I think that's all we have to say.

1869
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: Look about it, and I think it's fantastic.

1870
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: Moneylion dot com, slash more well at money Lion on Twitter,

1871
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: at money Lion Inc.

1872
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 2: On Instagram. Let your voice be heard. Look, we we

1873
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: do open the uh the vaults of accountability every Friday,

1874
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: where we let our viewers voice be heard.

1875
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: When they uh are going beat us up today?

1876
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: I think they are when they send a fancy email

1877
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: over there to Mikey Morms from CBS Sports at Morning

1878
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: Coombat at gmail dot com and they got a bone

1879
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: to pick with us. So pick that ship. I mean,

1880
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,799
Speaker 2: don't just sing it. Bring it, you better bring receipts.

1881
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: Don't be a pedantic piece of shit. But yes, we

1882
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 2: will straddle that fence. We will be willing to take

1883
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: the l if we have to. I'll sit on that

1884
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 2: cactus if I'm wrong, Luke, you know what I'm saying.

1885
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 2: This one's called dead wrong. Yeah all right, This one's

1886
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: from Craig What up? Donk one and two and episode

1887
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: three eighty seven, Luke, I can't read anymore at close distance.

1888
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: I should get it. Welcome I should get glasses. It

1889
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 2: happened overnight. I can no longer read. I gotta, I

1890
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: literally have to do this. I mean, what a life right,

1891
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? First your libido goes and

1892
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 2: then this.

1893
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: Right, your libido went already.

1894
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 2: Well, I did have the three needles. That was the

1895
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 2: emotionally scarring experience, the levels that I never thought I

1896
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 2: would experience, Luke, but.

1897
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: You should know I still have healthy levels of libido.

1898
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: Your search hitter history continues to prove that to be true,

1899
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: Craig says. In episode three eighty seven, Luke says that

1900
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 2: Drew dober quote gets dropped a lot around fifty one

1901
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: minutes and forty five seconds, to which b C with

1902
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: the Big BDE which stands for Big Diseased Energy, responded

1903
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: with a oh yeah.

1904
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing.

1905
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: Donk's dope only been dropped once in eighteen fights with

1906
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: the UFC. The nineteen would be the Green fight, which

1907
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: is less than BC gets dropped to his toilet bowl

1908
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 2: in the last eighteen bouts of gas station food hot dogs.

1909
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: All Right, it's a bit of a torture joke because.

1910
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: Luke, well, you know, from a from an intestinal standpoint,

1911
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 2: for sure you know what I mean?

1912
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: I mean that shit? You know? Okay?

1913
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: Because Luke, like stats, only three fighters with twenty plus

1914
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 2: appearances have ever been knocked down? Have they never not

1915
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: been knocked in? I think he means never been knocked down,

1916
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 2: which is John Jones, Max Holloway and Cheeto Vera.

1917
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: Is that true? I guess? So I have to double check.

1918
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: Peace in love from the man who has the same

1919
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 2: moose smug as BC as seen in the previous fans Up.

1920
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: It's Craig, Thank you, Craig Luke. Will you take the

1921
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 2: l I'll take the l okay? Oh yeah, I was wrong.

1922
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: Joe Drew Dover does bring it though.

1923
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: He does. Fuck yeah he does.

1924
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: I mean he enters that party and it's like, where's

1925
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: the women, where's the keg?

1926
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 1: He's gonna do you remember?

1927
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 3: I remember that story from Charlie Murphy about his brother

1928
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 3: at the peak of his popular Eddie Murphy. He would

1929
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: walk into a club do a lap out, and the

1930
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 3: way he expressed it was he would drain the club

1931
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 3: of women. They would follow him out and there'd be

1932
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: nothing left in the club.

1933
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: He would drain it. Pretty pretty impressive. Wow wow.

1934
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 2: This next one is from a lot of different people,

1935
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 2: but the one who wrote the note is Lord Edgar

1936
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: from Scotland, Luke.

1937
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 1: Well, I doubt he's really a lord.

1938
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 2: He might be a leered. At the end of the day,

1939
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: when discussing BC's dream matchup between Chimaiev and Usman, BC

1940
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: said that Usman quote did everything he had to do

1941
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 2: for four and a half rounds and didn't look dominated.

1942
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: I think they're talking about against Edwards in the rematch,

1943
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: to which Lucas Shirley stated he didn't lose until the

1944
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Speaker 2: last minute of the last round.

1945
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Speaker 1: He had lost a round.

1946
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, well, Usman's got taken down for the first

1947
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Speaker 2: time ever round.

1948
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Speaker 1: But he was winning the fight. Guys, how can you

1949
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: can you?

1950
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Speaker 2: How can you forget the spectacular trip and back control

1951
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: that leap meant? Yeah, that's not necessarily what we meant,

1952
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Speaker 2: So don't be pedantic, but thank you Lord Edgar from Scotland.

1953
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Speaker 1: Luke.

1954
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Speaker 2: So, I have a Scottish last name, right right, I'm

1955
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: an eighth Irish. I've recently been adopted by the Welsh.

1956
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: I don't think that the UK could be my bag, baby, right.

1957
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: The UK is great, I like and I know people

1958
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: go Ireland's not the UK bc B.

1959
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 2: Here's what I'm calling the UK moving from Northern Ireland.

1960
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm calling it UK plus. Like you know, ESPM was

1961
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: great now we got the UFS.

1962
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't plus. I don't think the Irish are going to.

1963
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 2: The UK plus now is Ireland and the UK together?

1964
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: Because I don't think. I don't think that. Well, well, Luke,

1965
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: the Northern Irish are allowed to be a part of

1966
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: the UK, right, Yeah, it's a different country. Is Van

1967
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Morrison a Northern irishman? I'm not sure? All right? Yeah?

1968
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 2: Canada in a way, in a way, yeah, in a way,

1969
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: in a way. All right, let's go to Michael. Do

1970
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 2: you think the UK people will will accept me and

1971
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 2: absorb me.

1972
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 3: Yes, the UK people will very much be accepted. They

1973
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 3: get me, right, although we'll say the Irish or friendlier. Sorry,

1974
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 3: do you like Irish? I'm not into two UK plus chicks?

1975
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 3: See you see, I am Luke.

1976
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean?

1977
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: You know, pre liv that's pre libido failure.

1978
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go to Michael on the January

1979
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 2: second show. By the way, my wife's Irish and Lithuanian.

1980
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. Uh.

1981
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: On the January second Show, Smartest Man in the Room.

1982
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas was dead wrong when speaking about Demitrius Johnson

1983
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: losing by getting need in the face. He said, DJ

1984
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 2: lost to Sergio Maris.

1985
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: It might be time too, oh, Audriano, Yes, it might be.

1986
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 2: Time to get a brain MRI because he's probably Johnson

1987
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: didn't lose to middleweight Sergio Maris. I got to use

1988
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: the bathroom really bad. It was Adriano. That's dead wrong.

1989
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: Morning Combat.

1990
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is the is if

1991
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 2: you want to send more and be predicted Courtney, Thank you,

1992
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 2: court thank you.

1993
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm are you.

1994
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: You know somebody in here is crowning like the King

1995
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: of England.

1996
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1997
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: So do you want to take us out of here?

1998
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: Luke? You also look inbred like the King of.

1999
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: That's not that's not fair. Can I tell you something? Yeah,

2000
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: about my family? Please, you're gonna make an inbred drug.

2001
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: But it's not true.

2002
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh god, are you semi related somewhere?

2003
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: No, No, that's not true. My grandfather and his two

2004
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: brothers okay, married a set of two sisters. Oh, I've

2005
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: seen them and their first cousin. That's common in South

2006
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: America too, So my dad has an aunt that's also

2007
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 2: his cousin.

2008
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: Okay, we get end the show there, that's a that's

2009
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: a little disturbing.

2010
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 2: That's that's how the French Canadians do it, Luke, there's

2011
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: actually there's nothing wrong with that. Just wanted to let

2012
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 2: you know that.

2013
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 3: All right, reminder, go to uh, let's go for our

2014
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: tickets for the London show February eighth. We're gonna be

2015
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 3: at King's Place in London. You can see the QR

2016
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 3: code on the screen if they throw it up here

2017
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 3: soon enough.

2018
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, got it right on time.

2019
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 3: You can go to poddash Live dot com as well

2020
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 3: to get tickets if that's the thing you're into. Showtime

2021
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 3: dot com thirty day free trial and plus we're gonna

2022
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: do three nine nine a month for the six months

2023
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 3: there after Morningcombat dot Store of course for bomber jackets

2024
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 3: like this.

2025
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: Do you want to you want to do MK and

2026
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: UK viewer home work and we'll watch the Harry and

2027
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 2: Meghan Netflix series and then respect my wife.

2028
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: I've maybe watched about an hour of it.

2029
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: My wife just told me we're gonna, oh, we're gonna

2030
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 2: start it together. Episode one. I figured I got to

2031
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: get I get it.

2032
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,280
Speaker 1: Up to speed. It's so fucking stupid. I don't let

2033
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: me just say something with this.

2034
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 3: The UK is oh, I should say England, all the

2035
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: ones in the UK, but England specifically is a awesome place.

2036
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit about your royal family, not

2037
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 3: even a little bit. Don't care that, don't care. How

2038
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 3: much do you care about the King of Spain? I

2039
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 3: don't exactly right, That's exactly how I feel about it.

2040
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm more of like. I like lords and lairds as

2041
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: my royalty, leirds and leotar.

2042
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 3: And then of course morning combat at gmail dot com.

2043
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 3: Don't forget today four pm, It'll be me. BC Stack

2044
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 3: will be here, Stephen Jackson, Raoul Marquez.

2045
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Will be here. We're gonna do the four of us

2046
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: are gonna.

2047
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: Some of the smoke will be here.

2048
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: Some of the smoke will be here.

2049
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 2: At least one has played the basketball though, Luke, to

2050
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 2: be fair, I.

2051
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 1: Mean, how long we're going to do this joke?

2052
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: I was nervous, okay, cut a guy of break ct

2053
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 3: a guy of break.

2054
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: Do you think Matt Barnes will look down on you

2055
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 2: the rest of his life?

2056
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 3: Uh?

2057
01:25:58,479 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: He probably has only because he's six eight, you will,

2058
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 2: it's how tall he stood, and you know, yeah, yeah,

2059
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: like Montela, dude, Montell in ninety four must have done this.

2060
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: He must have did it in ninety four. Oh my god,

2061
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, once upon a time.

2062
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, there you go.

2063
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 3: So there's where you can follow us. We hope you do.

2064
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 3: We'll see you at four pm. For the wayans also,

2065
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 3: we will have we haven't talked about this. We're gonna

2066
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 3: have a post fight show, a reaction to the fights

2067
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 3: on Saturday night live from the Capital One Arena here

2068
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 3: in Washington, d C.

2069
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: So uh be on the lookout for that live stream

2070
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: as well.

2071
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 2: Any final message to our Gen sixer.

2072
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 3: Population, it's time you tell the FBI where you are.

2073
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 3: It's time it's time to call it.

2074
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 2: A day, all right, right, get your face paint ready.

2075
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: It's time for the holiday season, luke, and today is

2076
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: the anniversary, so celebrate it well. Be safe, don't be dirtbags,

2077
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: all right. So this is going to end the show

2078
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 2: right here, guys, This is going to end the show.