1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: The volume. This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: is up? Straight Firefamp gets me Jason McIntyre Straight Fire 3 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: for Tuesday, March twelfth, and I was all excited. I 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, We've got some March mad and stuff 5 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: this week. I got some plans cooked up. We'll talk 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: conference tournaments, and then NFL tampering period begins and a 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: deluge of signings right out the gate, folks. I mean, listen, 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: there were so many signings Monday afternoon. It took basically 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: hours to sift through the rubble of what the hell happened? 10 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: So many big names off the board so quickly. And 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: I guess we've got to start with the biggest domino, 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: and that would be Kirk Cousins leaving the Minnesota Vikings 13 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: for the Atlantacs. I gotta be honest, you know, you 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: read all this stuff, you hear Atlanta. Maybe Kirk Cousins 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: and Kirk, you know, could work. It's a good setup. 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: And and then you just see Bakers stay in Tampa, 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, maybe the Vikings just say, 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: you know what, let's just let's just pay Kirk and 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: keep him. And the Vikings did not. They lost him, 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: and folks, I gotta I gotta be honest, I don't 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: know what the Minnesota game plan is. Usually you try 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: not to lose your star quarterback if you've got one. 23 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: But but I will say this, we talked about it 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: a lot. For instance, the Portland Trailblazers are the great example. Right, 25 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: So the Portland Trailblazers for years had Damian Lillard and C. J. 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: McCollum in the back court. And yeah they were undersized, 27 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: and yeah they couldn't defend, but you know what they 28 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: were gonna do every year, win forty to fifty games, 29 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: probably in the forty five to fifty three range on 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: a really good year, and if things broke right, they 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: would probably they could playoff run and they got to 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: the conference finals once, but we knew they were not 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: gonna win a championship. Okay, so are you cool with 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: that if you're Portland or do you want? Like you 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: could try to build around them, and remember there was 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: a Jerry Grant. They had LaMarcus Aldridge I believe, or 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: he might have been a little before them, but you 38 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: could tinker around the edges, but that was your core 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: and you were gonna be competitive every year in the playoffs, 40 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: do good business, sell out the arena, okay, and if 41 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: ultimately they said, you know what, this doesn't work for us, 42 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: we've got to move on from CJ. And then you know, 43 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: they tried to fashion around Dame, didn't work, and then 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: they part with Dame and you start over. Well, now 45 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: you're in rebuild mode, right, and that's not pretty and 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose a lot of games for how many years, 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: you don't know. So the Minnesota Vikings basically just jumped 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: into that phrame and said, you know what, we've had 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: a nice run with Kirk four five, six years. We're competitive. 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: He put up a lot of stats and he wond 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: check my notes here two playoff games and they said, 52 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: you know what, coming off in Achilles, we are not 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: going to be able to hang financially. According to the 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 1: NFL Network, Kirk Cousins got one hundred and eighty mil 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: from the Falcons, which sounds insane to me. Now, obviously 56 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: we need to look and wait for the funny money 57 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: to move around and see what the real numbers are. 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: So he got a fifty million dollars signing bonus, per 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: the NFL Network, and it seems like he's got one 60 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: hundred million guaranteed in this deal ninety and twenty four 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: and twenty five and then another ten mil in twenty 62 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: twenty six. Do you think that was too rich for 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota's blood? Were they like a one hundred mil was so? 64 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Basically Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, we had a good run with Kirk, 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: and I was only here for one season of it. 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: But you know what, we're uh, we're gonna just start over. 67 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: And that's the decision they made. And that's fine. I 68 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: get that. But now it gets interesting for Kevin O'Connell. 69 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: Hey man, the blank's late. You got it, you got 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: some nice runway, you did some good things last year. 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: Well what's next in Minnesota? I don't know. You could say, sure, 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. Well, it's not that easy. I believe 73 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: they're drafting eleventh and oh, by the way, you're not 74 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: getting a top three quarterback. You probably have to trade 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: up to get the fourth or fifth quarterback in McCarthy, Nicks, Pennox, whoever. 76 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: You believe. I just don't know. It's not going to 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: be that easy. And I get it, you know, not 78 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: wanting to pay him. It's a difficult decision. Team building 79 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: is super hard. Atlanta clearly looked at it the opposite way. 80 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: Our receivers on his rookie deal, our running backs on 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: the rookie deal, the tight ends on the rookie deal. Yeah, 82 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and give Kirk bunny. Let's see what 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: we can do. Can we steal the division and get 84 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: back to the playoffs? Falcons haven't been to the playoffs 85 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: in a while since the days of Matt Ryan. I 86 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: don't love this deal, but I understand the risk taken. 87 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: And if you're Rayhie Morris, you hit the ground running. 88 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: You know you got an oc who's never call plays 89 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: in Zach Robinson. But he comes from the Shanahan McVeigh tree, 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: which is a lot of play action, which fits what 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Kirk does. I don't know what he'll be like coming 92 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: off the Achilles, but the Atlanta Falcons make the biggest 93 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: splash in free agency. Everybody had him as the number 94 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: one target and he goes off the board, and I 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: don't know, rob I think it's a good move for Atlanta. Clearly. 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: I would love to have been in the room with 97 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota when they're talking through the plans, because you know, 98 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew went off the board to your raiders and 99 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: you see some other quarterback questions. It doesn't look like 100 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be justin fields. We'll see your thoughts. 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: Rob. I feel like maybe we should have seen this 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: one coming because it's been openly, you know, reported for 103 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: a few weeks now. You had Peter King first floated 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: out there. You had Jordan Schultz from Bleacher Rapport put 105 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: it out there that hey, keep an eye on the 106 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons. 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: Keep it. 108 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: And the NFL is different than the NBA. When the 109 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: NBA with someone today keep an eye to Jontay Murray 110 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: to the Lakers. You know what that means that Jontay 111 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: Murray's not going to the Lakers. But in the NFL 112 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: when you hear things like that that are player and 113 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: teams being tied together that early in the process, Because 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't even be surprised if we see 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: some kind of tampering allegations come out of Minnesota, because 116 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: this has been out there now for about a week 117 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: almost two, So maybe we should have almost expected this 118 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: was happening. Bad job by me for not pointing out 119 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: on yesterday's podcast, But to your point about Kirk Cousins. 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is going to be, to quote 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: our friend of the show, Andrew Brant, in the Business 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Sportsman is Hall of Fame because he 123 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: has done I like Kirk Cousins, but the fact is 124 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: he hasn't done anything on the biggest stages. Right, He 125 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: doesn't win in the postseason. He had a really bad 126 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: record on primetime hope until this past season, even then 127 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 2: it got cut short due to injury. And even still 128 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: this two years that he's gonna get guaranteed from Atlanta 129 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: because you know the way these contracts are reported, it's 130 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: basically funny money. But what we do know is that 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: four years, one eighty at least two years or excuse me, 132 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: at least ninety million in the first two years, So 133 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: this basically means a two year deal. Cousins two year 134 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: guarantee of ninety million is now the third most in 135 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: the NFL, behind only Lamar Jackson who got one to 136 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: twelve and Deshaun Watson who got ninety two, and that 137 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: contract is now seen as the outlier. So shout out 138 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: to Kirk Cousins for getting the money. I believe now 139 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: this puts them firmly atop the NFC South, and now 140 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: the pressure shifts on him in a way that it 141 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: hasn't I think at all in his career because instead 142 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: of being the hunter, which has been the case when 143 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: he was with Washington and in Minnesota, where you had 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: teams that were obviously better than them, whether it was 145 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: the Cowboys and the Eagles or the Aaron Rodgers Green 146 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: Bay Packers. Now, if you're Minnesota, excuse me. Now, if 147 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: you're Kirk Cousins in Atlanta, you're the guy. You're the 148 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: guy everyone's looking up to. How is he gonna perform 149 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: when the pressure is on him to not just only 150 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: make the postseason, but I'm assuming you don't give him 151 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: that kind of money. If you're atlantaun list, you're expecting 152 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: him to at least win around in the postseason as well. 153 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you said they're clearly the best in the division. 154 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: You sure, I mean like they should be Tampa, Baker 155 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: and Evans are back, Godwin's back, that they'll be plucky. 156 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: The Saints underachieved last year. New offensive coordinator, same old 157 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: Derek carry your guy from from the Raiders. I think 158 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: the division is just a bunch of mediocrity, which is 159 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: probably the same like Kirk Cousins. Could you could argue 160 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: he's the definition of mediocrity, right if they don't, if 161 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings two years ago don't go like ten to 162 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: zero in one score games and end up winning eleven 163 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: or twelve games whatever it was, and get to the 164 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: playoffs where they lost to the Giants and Daniel Jones, 165 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: do we think of Kirk Cousins as anything special? Like again, 166 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: I like him, He's a solid, But to me, he 167 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: is the epitome of that Portland Trailblazers CJ McCollum Dame 168 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Liller team that you know, again, they had a good run, 169 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: but they clearly had a defined ceiling. I'll go through 170 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: a couple of my best rob and you let me 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: know if you agree or disagree. I thought DeAndre Swift 172 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: every time I watched him this season he had pop 173 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: with the Eagles. He's only twenty five years old. I 174 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: don't think he's fully hit his prime yet. And I 175 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: thought this was a absolute heist by the Chicago Bears, 176 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: nabbing DeAndre Swift to go into the backfield. You're gonna 177 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: get a rookie quarterback. We know they've got a good, 178 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: solid tight end in Cole kmet I like Dj Moore. 179 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: Obviously on the outside, they'll probably draft a receiver, might 180 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: be Roma Dounaze in the first round. It with that 181 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: second pick, they're gonna have the rookie quarterback, a solid 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: not spectacular offensive line. It's better than I think people think. 183 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: And now you add DeAndre Swift to the backfield. Remember 184 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: they're running backs. Last year, whoever you kind of plugged 185 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: in for the spot starts and I know this is 186 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: fantasy football coaching, but whoever you plugged in was like 187 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: gonna deliver. Maybe they had a sum to do with 188 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: Justin Field's being a running quarterback or the offensive line, 189 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: like I said, was better than I anticipated. But Rob, 190 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: I thought they had a solid depth chart with Khalil 191 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Herbert Roshawn Johnson like you had DeAndre Swift. I don't 192 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: want to go overboard. I think they got some guys 193 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: on this team. 194 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, other than you know, we still don't 195 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: know what the quarterback situation looks like. And that's the 196 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: biggest question is if Caleb Williams is as good as advertised, 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: then sure. I mean I personally would not have given 198 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift that kind of money given the way the 199 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: market has shaken out, and we'll get into that here 200 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: in a minute. But if you're gonna have a quarterback 201 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: on a rookie deal, it makes sense to surround him 202 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: with talent and they are flushed with cab space. So 203 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: go ahead. If you really like DeAndre Swift, do you 204 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be the kind of guy who's gonna 205 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: elevate your rushing attack, then sure, give them the money 206 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: that you like. 207 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna be able. 208 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: To draft a receiver. Go ahead, Sorry, they're gonna be able. 209 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: To receive No, no, no, I'm with you. 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I didn't understand that move, rob because they 236 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: already have TAJ spears. And if you know, he was 237 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: a good, young kind of Tony Pollard type back coming 238 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: out out of college, and I'm like, they just got 239 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: another Tony Pollard. I didn't get that move. I did 240 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: see your Raiders lost Josh Jacobs. I know your cresfallen. 241 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll be able to wear your 242 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs jersey in public anymore. That's a big loss. However, 243 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. It feels like they probably will have 244 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: options to replace him. 245 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: No, My issue with the running back situation is I 246 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: saw it. Maybe it was the thirty thirteam. I like 247 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: most of their work. I like some of the guys 248 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: who worked there, but their social media is he can 249 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 2: put out something that listed all the running back deals 250 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: that were given out and said, you know who said 251 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: the running back position is dead. Look at these contracts, 252 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, four for thirty two, four for thirty two, 253 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: four Like it was listing all these guys, right, and 254 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 2: let me just start off with Josh Jacobs because you know, 255 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: I'm Raider fan, so it would make sense why I 256 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: will start with him. Josh Jacobs got what was reported 257 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: to be I want to say it was four years 258 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: for forty eight million dollars from the Green Bay Packers. 259 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: Sounds good. Okay. Two problems. Number one, The last big 260 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: money contract the Packers gave out was in twenty twenty 261 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: one to Aaron Jones, who is now with them anymore. 262 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: That's right, you know what. They gave him, four years, 263 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: forty eight million dollars. Okay. I'm no mathematician, but I believe, 264 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: with the cost of living and inflation, the contract for 265 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one should not be the same as contract 266 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Okay, that's number one. Number two, 267 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 2: and most importantly the second time, bringing up front of 268 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: the show, Andrew Brandt he ran things in Green Bay 269 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: there for decades, right, so he knows exactly how these 270 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: tracks work out there in Green Bay. Green Bay famously 271 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: does not guarantee money beyond the first year of the contract. 272 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: That's something that they've done since he was there, something 273 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: they do still now. Only in very very rare exceptions 274 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: do they do anything different. So that Josh Jacob's four years, 275 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: forty eight million dollars that he and his agent are 276 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: pimping out there all through Monday after and into the evening, saying, look, 277 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: we got our guy the most of money on the market. 278 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: Look at it, Look at it look at it, it's 279 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: really one year, fourteen point eight million and three packer 280 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: option years where they can say, you know what, we'll 281 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: see if we like what we get from Josh Jacobs, 282 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: We'll see if he fits with Jordan Love and this 283 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: young offense. As much as people want to believe that 284 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: the running back market has rehabilitated, that all of these 285 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: guys getting paid shows that you know, the Woe is 286 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: Me narrative that came out last offseason with Derek Henry 287 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: and Austin Egler, so on and so forth, that that 288 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: was a mirage. No, it's very much real. And if 289 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: you are going to feel like this is a win 290 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: for Josh Jacobs or a lost from my Raiders, I 291 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: guess you can paint it that way. But the reality 292 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: is you can get a lot of different running backs 293 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: for a lot of low wages in today's NFL. 294 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 295 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: No, certainly, And I don't feel like this was a 296 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: win for anybody in that regard. 297 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of not a win the Bryce Hoff loss, 298 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: I know a lot of Jets fans are like, oh, 299 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: we lost Bryce Hoff. He was amazing ten sacks, like 300 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: a settle down Jets fans and b he was a 301 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: situational pass rusher. This is the guy who played like 302 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: half the Snaps because they have such great depth on 303 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: the position on the defensive end. So the Bryce hoff 304 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: signing with the Eagles, you could wonder, like, okay, he 305 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: excelled next to Quinn Williams playing for Robert Salah on 306 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: that defensive line, and they would rotate him in with 307 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, Johnson will McDonald JFM, like, I like Huff 308 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: but a twenty MILLI pop. I don't know about that. Now. 309 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: Philly did get a little feisty with the money. And 310 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: I know, you know, Eagles fans are doing victory lot 311 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: because of Saquon Barkley, and I get that, like there's 312 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: reason to be excited for Saquon, but it felt a 313 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: little wishy washy and Rob I was doing some research 314 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: early this morning. You want to guess who some of 315 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: the biggest free agency winners and losers were last year. 316 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: This just goes to show when you later today when 317 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: you guys look and see, oh, winners and losers free agency. 318 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: So last year, the Baltimore Ravens got a d in 319 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: free agency. They ended up with the number one seed 320 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: and probably should have been in the Super Bowl if 321 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: they didn't bungle the game against the against the Chiefs, 322 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, just a horrible game plan. The Carolina Panthers 323 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: got to be rob Carolina Panthers spent well, oh, they 324 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: got to be And then you start looking at these 325 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: other moves and the Detroit Lions. People were bagging on 326 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: the Lions. Remember they had Jamal Williams, who led the 327 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: NFL in touchdowns. They just basically kicked them to the 328 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: curb and were like, oh, come on in David Montgomery. 329 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Montgomery was great, but nobody was like, that's a good move. 330 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: A lot of free agency is rearranging the deck chairs 331 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: on the Titanic. Okay, go look at what the Chiefs 332 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: did last year. Pretty much nothing other than that move 333 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: the Orlando Brown. They didn't want to pay him, so 334 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: they bring in Jawan Taylor, who struggled, and a lot 335 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: of people perceive the Chiefs to be losers in free agency. 336 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: They won the Super Bowl. I know they have a 337 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: homes different story, but I just all these people who 338 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: are saying, oh my gosh, the Eagles totally slayed free agency. 339 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: They got Huff, they got Saquon, We're going to the show. 340 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: It's like let's take a deep breath. Okay, yes, Saquon 341 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: gets a massive upgrade in offensive line, but they lost 342 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: Kelsey and I don't know how does Saquon factor into 343 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: the to the brotherly shelve or whatever you call it, 344 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: or are they not even doing that because they lost Kelsey? 345 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: And it's just I don't know, rub I feel like 346 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: people overreact a little, like it's fun like, oh my gosh, 347 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis left the Bills. Oh that hurts Josh Allen. Really, 348 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. Gabe Davis kind of a one trick pony. 349 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm like he had a couple He had that awesome 350 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: playoff game I think against the Chiefs, you know, the 351 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: crazy game where he had like three touchdowns and just 352 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: went off and then like he's just okay, and like, 353 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a game changer for the Jags. 354 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: Does it hurt the Bills? I don't know. I mean, 355 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: they lost the other receiver, they had to cut him 356 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: last week. It's just like some of these moves feel 357 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: a little inflated. And one that I'd love to hear 358 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: your thoughts is the Christian Wilkins move. They went out 359 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: early and the Raiders signed him and you're like, oh, 360 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: they stole him from the Dolphins. The bigger story here 361 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: is the Dolphins just losing starters handover fist. It looks 362 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: like they're gonna be down seven starters later this unless 363 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: they were able to sign Connor Williams, the offensive lineman. 364 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose so many starters. It's like, holy cow, 365 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: that's the story. But no, no, no, it's about the 366 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Raiders signing Christian Wilkins. And I see all these memes 367 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: on Instagram, Christian Wilkins next to Sidney NOTx Sidney Crosby, 368 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: Max Crosby. They're gonna dominate and wreck quarterbacks, like okay, 369 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: but wait a minute. And then another meame was Christian 370 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: Wilkins and Max Crosby shutting down the opponent only to 371 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: watch the offense fase third and fourteen every single time 372 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: down the field, and Rob, you gotta like, okay, you 373 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: lose Josh Jacobs last year, you lost the tight end, 374 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: the big guy, and now it's like Davonte Adams is 375 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: catching passes from Gardner Minshew or Aidan O'Connell. I guess 376 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: they'll draft a guy. I just don't know what they're 377 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: gonna be on offense. And I get it, Pierce gets 378 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: a great defensive lineman, But I don't know. It feels 379 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: to me, Rob like it's such an offensive league right 380 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: now that I would be putting most of my stock 381 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: in offensive players, whether it's trenches, receivers, tight ends, running back, 382 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: that's where I would be investing. I just a little 383 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: surprised the Raiders went that route. 384 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: You know what, Jason, what do Chris Brussard, Mina Kimes, 385 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: Nick Wright and yourself all have in common? 386 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: Oh? No, I don't like the Raiders. 387 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: No, you all stolen my take, okay, at all one 388 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: time or another. Because as you were talking about the 389 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: grades and free agency, I was thinking to myself and like, 390 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: you know what, who if I would give a grade 391 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: out today, the big loser, I'd already have the top 392 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: my list. With the Mammi Dolphins. Yeah okay, and I'll 393 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: explain why in a second. But with the Raiders again, 394 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: Raider fan, I got his comments on it. I like 395 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: Christian Wilkins. I think is a very good player. I 396 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 2: think he's a damn good football player. I think him 397 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: against Max or him with Max Crogby in the defensive 398 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: line is going to be fantastic. Having said all of that, 399 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: the Raiders still have not fully addressed their biggest issue, 400 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: their number one issue, which is quarterback. I know they 401 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: got Gardner Minshew. I love Gardner Minshew. I think Gardner 402 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: Minshew is going to be a fan favorite in Vegas 403 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: almost immediately from day one. With his hair and his 404 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: mustache and him living in his trailer on the practice facility, 405 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: He's going to be great. Right However, he is a 406 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: stop gap. He is a band aid on a torn 407 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: ligament in your left meat. Okay, he is a guy 408 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: who is going to be able to keep you right 409 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: above water. He might even get you to five hundred. 410 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: He'll keep right around the Mendoza line right in Major 411 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: League Baseball. It's what he did in Indianapolis. If your 412 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: starter goes down, Gardner Minshew is more than capable of 413 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: keeping you afloat. Heck, if you're banking on him though, 414 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: to be your franchise guy, you are going to be 415 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: wildly disappointed. And right now it's to be determined for 416 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: the Raiders in the quarterback position, They're in a spot 417 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: in the draft where now, with Minnesota losing Kirk Cousins, 418 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: the draft might not work out in their favor where 419 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: they're not gonna be able to get one of these 420 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: guys that they really want if they trade up into 421 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: the top three. I don't see why New England or 422 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: Washington would trade down given how much if they need 423 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: a quarterback. So it's not looking great for them in 424 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,239 Speaker 2: that regard. As far as the Miami Dolphins go. I 425 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: like the Miami Dolphins. We talked about it on the podcast. 426 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to pick them to beat the Kansas City 427 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: Chiefs in that playoff game, but their injury list was 428 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 2: so immense that I just couldn't in good conscience do it. 429 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: I now believe that the Miami Dolphin super window is 430 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: over for it even opened. 431 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: Oh come on, okay, harsh. 432 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: The tour contract is coming. That's been widely reported now 433 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: all off season. Both sides are working on a deal. 434 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: I assume with this Kirk Cousins contract coming in, this 435 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: kind of sets the benchmark or the floor of what 436 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: a tour contract is going to look like. It's going 437 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: to start at forty six forty seven million dollars minimum 438 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: per season. And now you have a team that quite 439 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: honestly got by with a lot of sizzle and no steak. 440 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: Last season when they played the also rams like apologies, 441 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: your New York Jets, they beat the shit out of them, 442 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: which is what good teams we're supposed to do. When 443 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: they played the heavyweights like the Buffalo Bills, they found 444 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: very quickly that they are not in that caliber in 445 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: the NFL. And now you lose. As you alluded to 446 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: seven starters, at least four of which are on the defense. Okay, 447 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: that's not even including your two pass rushers, Bradley Chubb 448 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: and Jalen Phillips will not be back until at minimum 449 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: like a third into the into the season. So you're 450 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 2: banking on Tua and his lengthy history injury history, and 451 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle in that run game basically 452 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: being able to score thirty to forty points a game 453 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: no matter who's in front of them. Because that defense 454 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: is going to take a long time, at least in 455 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: my opinion, to get its bearings and find its way 456 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: under that new defensive leadership. This situation here in Miami 457 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: is not looking good. I don't feel great about them 458 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: anymore as much as I did. I fought better about 459 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: them a week ago than I do today. 460 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt kind of sort of like one of 461 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: those why wouldn't you just draft Pennix and plug him in? 462 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: Oh wait, that was my take a few weeks ago. 463 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: For maybe a couple months ago, I honestly thought that 464 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: would have made more sense than paying too a. Like, 465 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: I just it feels kind of sort of over for 466 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: at least in my opinion, for the for the Dolphins, 467 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: it just it just feels like I don't love it. Listen, 468 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: I did, uh kind of. I don't know if I 469 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: was giving the Eagles positive or negative news or reviews 470 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: for the for the Saquon move, I was getting ready 471 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: to hammer the New York Giants. I was like getting 472 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Salvos ready yesterday. But then they they traded for Brian Burns, 473 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: the great pass rusher for Carolina, and they made him 474 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: one of the highest paid defensive ends in the league. 475 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: Like great. I like that they got cave On Thibodeau, 476 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: like all right, sure, and the Panthers desperately needed more 477 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: draft picks, so they got an extra two and a five, 478 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: so that's great help for Bryce Young. But like, I 479 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: don't know at all what the New York Giants are doing, 480 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: Like none of it makes sense. Yes, Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, 481 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: keve On Tibodeaux. They got some dudes on the defensive line, 482 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: but they have no quarterback. I mean, I would say 483 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: one of the week like bottom seven wide receiver groupings 484 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: in the league, and they have currently no running back. 485 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: Now you could say, who cares? Who needs a running back? 486 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: Does that matter? I just I don't know. It feels 487 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: to be rob If you're looking at worst teams in 488 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: the NFC, I would probably say it's the two teams 489 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: that made the Brian Burns deal, the Panthers and the Giants. 490 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you, and as much as 491 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: I like the deal for the Giants again because they 492 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: they have a quarterback issue. So if you're gonna be 493 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: able to win with the quarterback problem, you got to 494 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: be great at along the trenches. And adding Brian Burns 495 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: to that defensive line is going to help them a 496 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: lot tremendously. See if they get their offensive line back 497 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: in order. No sa Quon that he was basically their 498 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: entire offense when he was healthy last season. So they're 499 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: gonna have to pitch a lot of shutouts there in 500 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: New York if they're going to be any kind of successful. 501 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: But when I saw that trade come down, my first 502 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: thought was, hey, do you remember when the Rams like 503 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: two years ago, offered to first and a second for 504 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: Brian Burns and the Panthers said. 505 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: No, similar to the Jerry Judy butchering. 506 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: Exactly, Like this is the equivalent. I know we have 507 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: a lot of fans. You have a high falutin listenership 508 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: here for the Straight Fire podcast. It's like, hey, you 509 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna wait to sell my house because 510 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: I think I can get more and then the market 511 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: crashes and they're like, all right, cool, but I still 512 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: made some money off of it. It's like, no, you 513 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: could have made three hundred thousand. Now you made seventy 514 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: five thousand, So you didn't really make good on that 515 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: deal at all. Right, So I don't know what the 516 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: path I mean. I guess the Pathers needed the draft picks, 517 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 2: as you alluded to, but I don't believe that they 518 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: are in the business of losing talent. Yeah. 519 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: Remember I forget who had to quote somebody in the 520 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: NFL the best time to rebuild is last year. The 521 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: best time to trade somebody you should have was last year, 522 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: like should have given up Judy. Now you got a 523 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: fifth and a sixth for Judy got that's bad GMing. 524 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: And I'm sure Denver's like, hey, we're trying to make 525 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: a push for the playoffs, blah blah blah, but should 526 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: have been realistic. And the Brian Burns thing too, I don't. 527 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't have any clue what they 528 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: were doing. By the way, Listen, you guys know I 529 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: try to stay off social media as much as possible 530 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: during NFL free agency, it's hard not to. I will say. 531 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: One of the most biting comments I saw was player 532 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: on former player crime. I don't know if you saw this, Rob, 533 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: but I have in my notes. Saquon Barkley on his 534 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: way out the door, kicking Tiki Barber. Saquon Barkley, who 535 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: doesn't do a lot of social media after signing with 536 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: the Eagles, you've been a hater since I got to 537 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: New York and all the dead to me talk, don't 538 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: smile on my face when you see me. I like 539 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: this Saquon Barkley. He seems like he's angry with the Giants. Listen, 540 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: they drafted him second overall, do you remember this second? 541 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: I jotted down some of the guys who went after him. 542 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: Sam Donald went third, that didn't quite work out, dinzow 543 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Ward fourth, He's been a stud. Josh Allen seventh, Hello, 544 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: Rokwan Smith eighth, Mika Fitzpatrick eleventh. They overdrafted Saquon, that's fine, 545 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: But for Tiki Barber to go after Saqua and then 546 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Saquon to get him on the way out, I kind 547 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: of rob I kind of sort of feel like maybe 548 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Saquon has already circled on the count Giants. He knows 549 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 1: who the opponents are, and then he's gonna circle when 550 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: the games are he's gonna make sure that he goes 551 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: ham on them. I'm excited for that. I don't think 552 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: you know what, I bet the networks make that like 553 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: a Monday night football game or Sunday night for something 554 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a prime time game. 555 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: I would love for Fox to have that game so 556 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: that we can hype it up even more than usual 557 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: because it'd be a Fox broadcast. Like say, Kwon Barkley, 558 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: say what you want about his injury history. I understand 559 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: that it's fine. He was done dirty by the New 560 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: York Giants, right. He was their best player by a 561 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: mile when he was in New York, And how did 562 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: they repay him by giving all that money to Daniel 563 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: Jones and not to him that we've talked about. You 564 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: talked about it on this podcast. What was the locker 565 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: room vibe when Daniel Jones, who everybody knew was a 566 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: mediocre at best player, got the bag and your best 567 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: player didn't like that? Couldn't have gone over well. And 568 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: now we find out a couple of years later, you 569 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: got guys like Rich Eisen reporting that they already have 570 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: buyer's remorse before the ink is even dry on that 571 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: contract for Daniel Jones. Saquon Barkley when he was healthy again, 572 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: I understand the injury history. Was a damn good player, 573 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: and not only was he good, he was the workhorse. 574 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: How do they repay him again? They pay Daniel Jones first, 575 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: he goes into the offseason, doesn't want to sign the 576 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: franchise tag. He holds out, trying to do what's best 577 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: for himself the running back position. Ultimately, he comes back, 578 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: doesn't even get a raise, I don't think from New York. Yeah, 579 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 2: and he can't get a new deal again anyways, So 580 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: I don't care if he goes to the Jets. I 581 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: don't care if he goes, he ends up with the Eagles. 582 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: Wherever he goes. This is not personal for him. We 583 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 2: excuse me, the Giants fans and the Giants brass cannot 584 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: take this personal that he ended up with one of 585 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: their quote unquote rivals, because it's your fault why he 586 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: had to leave the building. So I hope when they 587 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: face each other the first time, I hope that it's 588 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: in New York. I hope that Giants fans whether he's 589 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: getting Booter cheered. I hope he goes off for a 590 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: buck fifty to two scores, and when he leaves the 591 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: podium after the postgame pres conf when the Eagles win 592 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: by twenty one points, he gives the Bird a tiki 593 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: barber on the way out the wind. 594 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait. I'll wrap up one small note 595 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: just because I'm kind of becoming a Chargers hank since 596 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm out here and they got Harball and Herbert. I 597 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: know you hate that as a Raiders guy. I like 598 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: the Rams too. I saw that the Chargers stole Will 599 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: Disley from Seattle and again Will Disley okay, whatever, he's 600 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: not top ten tight end in the league. Probably not 601 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: even top fifteen. I just wonder if we're gonna see 602 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers. You get two tight ends, you get some 603 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: two tight end sets, you go with heavy packages. I'm 604 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: very excited for what Harball is gonna bring. I think 605 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna look totally different than they have in the 606 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: last few years with Herbert, some heavier packages, two tight 607 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: end sets, it looks like and unconfirmed, but mac Bosa, Allen, 608 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: and Mike Williams, all four of those guys apparently they're 609 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: fielding offers. We're open for business. Not the exact quote, 610 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: but I'm saying, keep an eye on the Chargers. I 611 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: have a feeling they're not gonna do a on of 612 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: big moves addition wise, but subtraction wise. They may get 613 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: some guys. Keep an eye on the Chargers might take 614 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: rub I. 615 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: Would not like to keep an eye on the Chargers 616 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: just for selfish reasons, but I will say that I 617 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: do appreciate what they're doing because they are building the roster. 618 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: In Jim Harbaugh's image, right, what does he want to do. 619 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: He wants to play power football. He wants to ground 620 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: and pound, play defense. That is why I've told several 621 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: of my friends who are Chargers fans in the business, 622 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: and I tell him, look, Justin Herbert might be light 623 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: years better as a quarterback under Jim Harball, I can 624 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: promise you, though his stats won't reflect it, because they 625 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: are going to play a different kind of ball than 626 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: what they're used to. Herbert is not going to be 627 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: slinging the ball over the yard. And it's the other 628 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: reason why, as I've seen many Chargers fans and people 629 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: who work around the team like, hey, we can get 630 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: a great wide receiver at that draft slot. Like the 631 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: quarterbacks are gonna go in the top three, one of 632 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: these guys might fall to us, whether it's Harrison Neighbors, 633 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: a Duneesa, whoever. Yeah, you know what, don't be surprised 634 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: if Jim Harbaugh is like, you know what, let me 635 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: get that that tackle out of Notre Dame, let me 636 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 2: get that tackle out of Oregon State. Let me trade 637 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: down and pick up an offensive guard and maybe get 638 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: like Brock Bowers with twelve or something like that, like 639 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. And this is this is the credit to 640 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: what they're doing that front office. They are allowing Jim 641 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: Harbaugh to be Jim Harbaugh. That's all I can say 642 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 2: about that. 643 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: All right, wild and exciting times. Hopefully more action tomorrow, 644 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: college basketball tomorrow. I promise you back then talk to 645 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: you then