WEBVTT - Darcie's Inferno 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.560 It's one thirty seven am in the sixth Circle of 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:25.840 Hell and you're listening to Night Call. Welcome to Nightcall, 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.440 a podcast keep you company during those strange days and 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.959 movie nights. I'm Emily Yoshida. I am here in New 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.000 York City. With me on the other line in Los 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:41.559 Angeles is Small Lambert. And also with Emily in New 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:46.400 York this week is Darcy Wilder. Special guest Darcy Wilder. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.639 So guest Darcy Wilder. We've been trying to book We've 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.520 been trying to book her for a long time. Guys, 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:56.640 this is air tight. We had to go through a 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.280 lot of people. Yeah, Darcy's playing the role of tests 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.160 this week. Test us out with some Jerry Duty. Good 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.520 good luck to you. We want to just we just 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.160 burned a cool five minutes trying to decide what the 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.600 righting of was Yeah used to be in We were 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.399 like Emily was like, we can't. We have to get 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.560 the one that we would want to be associated with. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:18.720 So we went with hearsay. I believe yeah, because we 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.960 were just being very shady off being shady so before 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.240 the show started, and you don't want to be like 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.560 violent where it's no I don't want to be I 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.320 don't want to own that. I feel like Emily has 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:37.280 been talking about medieval torture and death a lot on Twitter. Yeah, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.600 but not not from a pro perspective, just in a 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:47.440 like of when we stopped doing that. I've been so 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.840 into the medieval, the middle and never before. Yeah, maybe 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.480 it's having a moment. Well, it is having a moment 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.160 because it's another thing the alt right is trying to 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.520 steal what medieval all this that's fair. So yeah, that's 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.440 all right. But I saw that I thought of you, yeah, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.800 because that was when we went to the Renaissance Fair 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.080 Andrew t was like, yeah, how is this not like 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.400 super racist? And I was like, because it's l a 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.880 so it's like better than you would expect by another year. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.600 It's a little Yeah. I mean I've I was never 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.480 into the medieval, and then I've gone to the Renaissance 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.400 Fair a couple of times now with our friend Jane Murray, 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.480 and I liked the Renaissance Fair and I get into 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:35.320 it from a medieval torture perspective. Emily, what what made 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:40.400 you start thinking about the wheel of death all the time? Well, okay, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.480 so I um, I think I started talking about it 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.680 because I was watching Oh because I had seen Unfriended 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.200 Dark Web, which is UM. A lot of that movie 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.919 is about snuff films UM, and it kind of sent 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.080 me down a very kind of like because that's the 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.320 dark webs, what is the arc of human experience? Send 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.360 like like this this watching this movie, this like kind 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.800 of stupid horror movie that has some sort of like 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.560 just because of the way it's made, makes you really 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.760 kind of believe that you could be watching a real 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.520 snuff film, and like, my my mind just recoils. But 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.160 then I just started thinking about how like one unmidieval 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.400 person recoil at that at that like if you're seeing 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.400 people being dragged down street every day and torn limb 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.600 from limb and like broken on the wheel and everything. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.600 We're gonna throw in a fun fact I learned for 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.040 another podcast but didn't get to say, so I'm gonna 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.680 say it here, which is that when when Wes Craven 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.720 was making The Last House on the Left, apparently the 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.600 actress who started it wasn't sure the whole time if 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.960 it might just be a snuff film because it was 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.800 so low budget, and they were like, it's also really 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:53.280 dark and rape yea, and they probably weren't you know, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.160 up to code as far as taking care of talent 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:57.840 and all of that was the thing they were like 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.920 it was so low budget that like she wasn't sure 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.800 and she'd been in some exploitation films before, but she 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.440 was genuinely a little bit worried that, like the big 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.400 finale was going to be that they killed her, but 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.960 they didn't. Yeah, that kind of that kind of you know, 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.520 I've never seen that movie and I don't really plan on. Oh, 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:23.480 it's really good. It makes you feel real like scuzzy inside, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.600 like some of those seventies exploitation movies too. But that's why. 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.760 That's the thing is like I feel like everybody goes 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:33.039 through a period, some of them lifetime that you seek 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.599 out that kind of stuff because you're like, oh somebody, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.760 what if somebody, you know, faces death? Stuff like that. 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.200 And I feel like the first stuff that came on 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:45.440 the Internet was all that stuff like rotten dot com, Like, hey, 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.720 here's the internet. You can use it to see somebody 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.640 dying in a video, which is what we were talking 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.680 about last week with Ben's VR experience. Like the first 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.240 thing you do when you have a new piece of technology, like, 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:03.240 what's it like to me some death? This brings us 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.359 to our our our topic that we wanted to discuss 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:11.120 with Darcy this week. Yeah, we have a sub topic 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:15.160 before we get start with Fanny to die. The main 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.280 in a Fanny pack. The main threst of this episode 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.880 is uh. This episode is called Darcy's Inferno. It was 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:28.279 inspired by Darcy's obsession with Dante's Inferno. We'll get to 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:33.119 that in a moment, but first Fannie packs Darcy. Oh yeah, 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.279 I'm Darcy Wilder. Um, I'm on Twitter. I'm three three 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:44.240 three three three three three three three four three three 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.760 three three three. I messed up when I was trying 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.000 to tell my husband what your Twitter? I just say, 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.600 it's a bunch of three, Like, I can't believe you 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:56.520 know how many three? Sir said many times nine? It's 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.600 nine in the beginning and then five, and they do 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.080 say code. The code was that I had an anonymous 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.000 Twitter so that I could get a nine to five 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.799 job and not have it be traced to me. How's 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.920 that working out for you? I quit to be on 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:17.760 my follow my dreams being on zoo Lander two ums, 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.599 and I'm on Instagram, where I've been doing Hell Month, um, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.960 after Ladder Month and Knife Month, and I think I 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:28.039 realized you said when you were doing the glass bricks 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.760 and I couldn't stop seeing glass bricks everywhere. Now I 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.960 see ladders everywhere. Yeah, when did you start doing the 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.920 themed months? Was nine month the first one? Yeah? Because um, 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.400 this teen I follow from New Orleans. I mean it 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.520 comes from like stand Twitter and like you know, the 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:50.160 underbelly of of maybe anime Twitter. And it was just 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.159 like I think, taken from a culinary blog and it 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.680 was just June is NiFe Month, and then they took that. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.080 So then I was like, I'll just post pictures of knives. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.240 And then I figured out that I really like a theme, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.160 so I picked, you know, the most boring one of 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.880 which I know. That's the thing about picking a theme 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.000 for your life, Like when I was doing the glass bricks, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.160 like if first everybody got into it with me in 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.920 my life and then eventually they you have to stop 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.760 so many interventions you're not going to get them off. 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I was like wearing my Fannie pack that 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.559 that was the whole thing actually was that I downloaded 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.400 my stuff into a Fannie pack so I only needed 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.160 my like so I didn't bring my wallet. And then 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.319 I was like down on the other side of the 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.160 mountain and I was like, oh, I didn't bring any 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.120 of my stuff, So like all the hab is my wiles? 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:24.319 What what what type of Fannie pack? Perhaps is there 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:28.080 a beautiful, a beautiful Fannie pack. I bought at a 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.600 store in Echo Park that a gift shop. They had 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.600 them outside on the models and I said, how much 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.439 is this? I think it's like fake East Bay. It's 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:40.280 like East Bag. Yeah yeah, yeah, seven dollars and it 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.440 has multiple I'm gonna take a picture of it and 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.079 posted on the on the Night Instagram later. This is 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.480 a fashion podcast also, Emily, could you tell could you 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.440 tell our listeners about your outfit today? Oh it is 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.000 My outfit was described. I thought that it would make 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.040 Molly happy, just because I was wearing both my jackline 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.280 and shirt, which I got in Tokyo or don't know, 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:01.760 I got it in Osaka. I got all my good 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.840 shirts in Osaka, and then um, and then my Dodger's hat, 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.000 which because it's just a horrible day today and uh 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.480 in New York it's very hot and miserable, and I 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.440 was telling Darcy that the hotter it gets, the more 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.320 I just started to dress like a child. Um, just 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.400 wearing like what I imagine a kid wears when they 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.760 go to a theme park, so that the parent never 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.800 loses talk of them, because they're wearing like a bright 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.760 color and like a hat I like, And I like 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.120 that style too. I realized I was dressed as as 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:35.760 a mast from Earthbound. Recently Fanni packs Fannie. Yes, mine 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:40.400 fits my phone charger, which I find helpful. Is this 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.320 the one right here? Because I can see you have 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:47.120 a lovely black herschel? Thank you, Fannie Pack. I got 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.480 this in the mail today. Oh nice. But I've been using. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.920 My friend Chrissie gave me a Fannie pack in two 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.440 thousand and sixteen and I was like, this is perfect 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.120 because it's an Arizona iced tea any pack that's the 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.079 pattern of you know, the green tea with honey yea. 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.160 And I tried to wear it and I was like, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.079 the zeitgeist was not where it needed to be. Yeah, 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.880 right now, could rock that. And so I've been using 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.240 that and it's great, But um, who told people to 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.600 wear fanny packs over their shoulders? I don't. I really 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:27.680 dislike it. Against it hard And this is my most 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.800 controversial opinion. And I felt so guilty too because people 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.440 were tagged in the comments and I was like, I 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.560 don't it was a moral judgment I cast on them 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.600 and I don't think like I I try to avoid those, 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.640 but it's just like it seems really cloying to wear 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:49.480 it around your well, you have something heavy in it 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.559 in order to do that, Otherwise it'll just sell off 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.480 your shoulder. I only know this from experience of trying 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.640 to wear I will admit it on the air here. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.640 I tried to wear a fanny pack over my shoulder 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.760 once a coach ella. I don't know why exactly. For 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.480 some reason, I thought that it wasn't going to work 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.440 around my waist with whatever I was wearing, so I 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.400 was like, I get it out of the way, and 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.440 like it changes a silhouette. Yeah, yeah, I think I 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:18.040 had so. Yeah. I also tried in I impulsively got 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.440 a jam sport one that I since disposed of because 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.240 I was like, when our Fannie pack is going to 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.800 come back? And I was trying it out and I 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.120 was like, why did I spend twenty dollars on this 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.920 dumb bag? And I tried it a shoulder bag and 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.440 I was like, well, this will never work, and like 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.520 donated it. But I just think it's like trying so hard, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.520 and if I wanted a shoulder thing, I would just 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.400 have my backpack but put something in it, saying it's 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.880 like a Fannie pack is for when you don't want 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.280 the shoulder weight of a backpack, but I hadn't noticed 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.120 it yet. I feel like it was only in fashion 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.760 magazines at first, and then it's like one of those 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.040 things where they're like models off duty do this thing. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.880 Wouldn't you like to be like a bottle off duty 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.400 just in the street wearing fanny pack in a weird way? 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.840 And then I saw it for the first time in 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:12.000 the wild last week at this podcast because the podcast 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.200 studios on Melrose, which is where all the hype pieces 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.720 in l A hang out, and I saw like a 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.200 lot of teenagers doing it. Mm hmmm, and I would 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.800 like just fall off, And don't you just look like 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:26.280 a fool all the time when you do it like constantly? 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.760 It just was part of the look. I don't I 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.080 don't think there's maybe like nothing in it. Maybe maybe 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.960 that's that's that's even that's even harder because you have 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:36.400 if you have a weight in it, then it will 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.280 kind of at least dig into your shoulder a little 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.640 bit and hang there. It's like wearing an empty topebag. 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.360 It will always fall off my shoulder, but if you 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.000 have something in it, it holds it there. I don't know. 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.320 I should probably move on and talk about hell but yeah, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:54.400 speaking of speaking of yes, there are no there are 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.600 no teens out today because it's too hot even for 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.640 the teens it is. So there's a heat advice up there, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.320 so goddamn hot. Yeah. The heat advisory is until eight 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:10.200 pm tomorrow. Oh my god. So nobody's outside. You don't 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.960 want to be outside. I'm very happy to be in 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:14.880 this studio. I was going to try to go out 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.760 to l a and but my brother was there and 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:22.960 he was like, save yourself time. It's on fire or 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:27.440 will be at any moment. It for months. H But 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:32.560 speaking of that hell month, hell month, hell month, Yeah, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.760 I was gonna go with fire month, but then um, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.480 Jessica Hopper saw the fire postons like is this hell Month? 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.920 And I was like, that's so much better. So I 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:46.280 did an adjacent pivot. Also, it's because, um, I feel 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.120 my friend just handed me a copy of Dante's Inferno 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:56.440 when we were hanging out. Have you heard the good words? Um? 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.680 So I feel like I'm like, am I taking his? 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.400 But it's like, um, he did not know it would 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.040 become an obsession in my life. But now there's a 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:11.480 Yale podcast that's just a lecture on Dante's inferno so interesting, 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.280 didn't you have it to recently where you were like, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.000 everything I do, I have to do until I'm good 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.680 at it, and then I have to do it until 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.479 I die. That sounds like that sounds like something I 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.360 have said before where I don't know if I ever 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.960 get good, but I get really obsessed and then I'm 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.680 done with it. That a lot. I can't get into 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.480 things shallowly. It's either like all the way. Yeah. I 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:39.480 mean I lost last month to vander Pump, which is 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:45.160 you you improved it enhanced. I did my my studied, 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:50.160 Like would you say you're like a casual Dante scholar 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.680 right now? This month? I dabble yea, yeah, I'm I'm 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.399 I'm a beginner dabbler. Um. If it was a yoga class, 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.240 it would be maybe the community yoga class that's open, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.080 but beginner. The donation at this point because you feel 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.240 like you don't want to. I mean, it's so cool. 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.440 I was watching a Dante documentary I found out all 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:15.200 about that. Um in Florence. They it was like the guelfs, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.479 Oh my gosh, I have Some part of them were like, 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.720 let's follow the pope, and the other part were like 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.960 let's follow the emperor. And then Dante was not on 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:29.640 the right side. He was exiled, should I guess happened 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:35.240 in more but not? Wait? Was which side was he on? 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:39.679 The He was a white guelf and then the man 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:45.040 black one, so he like the emperors were like more 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:50.400 about secular law and then the pope people who were 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:56.399 like super Christian, I think Catholic or whatever. Whatever. You know, 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.840 did he go at the pope or the emperor? He 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:01.639 you he was on the side of the pope, but 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.560 the black and the white were split where the white 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:09.399 was kind of more anti authoritarian where I don't I 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.000 haven't read enough about this, but they didn't like the 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:17.879 current pope, the challenged hope. I'll do another one and 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.680 I'll decide it. But like they didn't like the current pope, 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.800 which seems kind of like anti authoritarian, like to doubt 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:28.200 a religious leader in medieval times or whatever, back when 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.280 the pope was still seen as the actual hand of 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:36.520 God here on earth. So was he exiled from Florence? Yeah, 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:41.679 never to return. Well, guess what the Italian couple that 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.640 gave me a ride in their uber last night? More 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:48.520 from Florence. Oh it comes full cert have you watched 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.240 um any of the Dan Brown movies. I don't know 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.840 why I said that first instead of instead of read 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.960 the down Brown books, but I watched them. I don't 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.879 know if I also, you said the Dan Brown movies 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.359 instead of the da Vinci Code. Well, I couldn't remember 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.040 that what was called. I was like, it's Dante's Circle, 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:13.240 Dante Dante's I just had the harsh realization that the 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:18.239 Da Vinci Code is Dante's Inferno adjacent and it's a 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:22.680 little upseting. No, No, it's okay, because like Christian mysticism 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:27.119 is the most fun part about Christianity, right, Yeah. I 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:31.399 think that's why I started getting into Dante, like uh uh. 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.000 Noted scholar Jeff Rickley handed me Dante's Inferno, and I 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:39.920 was like, oh no, because this is my new love. Yeah, 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:45.280 it is. Because we're the we're the counter force dark Enlightenment. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.480 We have to study all the texts in order to 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.320 come at it from the complete opposite angle. Well, I 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.760 started to realize I was on the brink of a 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.959 rabbit hole. And I don't want to bring this up 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.439 or get too too deep into it right now because 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.160 and I can't really, but just like reading the thing 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.000 about how the now they think like the Q and 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.960 Non people are like Italian. They were like, like it's 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:13.520 born of like this Italian anarchist like tradition, and a 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.640 novel was written around like two thousand one or something 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.040 about it. It's called cub But like whatever, But I 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.480 don't know, I would do value to this sounds interesting. 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.680 I want to know all about this, but I was 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.760 like I can't. I can't. I can. I feel like 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:27.639 I'm going to get into that in like three years, 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.760 Like guys, we're gonna get into it because Q and 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.240 On is going to be the leader of America. But 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:39.720 now they're saying that it's now there's a theory like 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.639 even among people who like are more adjacent to it 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.480 than it is just a giant roll job. But it's 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.080 all a troll, that's the whole thing about. But like 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:51.480 that that it was planted as a by leftist, so 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:56.960 an anarchist instead of just like people look crazy, which 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.880 is there's too many layers to all these things. That's 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:02.840 why I was That's why I was interested in this 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:06.480 though it's like, oh wait, they pranked like eight channers 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.479 with something based on what we have to do we 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.600 have to we have to outtroll the trolls, have to 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:16.040 counter troll the racist trolls with like, I mean, Darcy, 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.479 obviously you've been a part of weird Twitter for a 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:23.480 long time, as have I and Emily. I guess like 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:27.879 we're all adjacent umping an admirer from Afar adjacent to 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.240 weird Twitter. And there was a point at which, like 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.840 weird Twitter, some of it split off into the alt right, yeah, 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:38.879 or like the having the same jokes but saying it's ironic, 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.600 and then it's just like right, which is how like 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:47.320 Vice paved the way for that. Yeah, then a person 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.560 who's literally say that I hate yeah literally is a 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:57.480 racist fascist now, so of shirts for everyone, it was 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:00.520 the first time, like everyone always wore the shirts, and 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.040 then I saw one in a thrift store and I 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.680 was like, finally it's oh no, so I can never 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.600 wear it. Was, well, that's it's not the first time 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:11.199 those shirts have been uh this is there. It's like 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.679 eighties thing, it's like hardcore. Yeah, Like, it's not the 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.960 first time that the red Prairie shirts have been used 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.520 as a that's just brenning. You think that they go 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:23.520 for something that's already tainted, like like like just Hugo 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:28.240 boss stuff or whatever, but like something on their side 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.600 having a uniform is so darky. Have you seen their 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.000 initiation videos that are so dumb like they just get 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:39.680 like lightly punched by each other. It's like a weird 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:44.200 like yeah, Like that's like one of those things where 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.359